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Speaker 1: It was the age of wisdom, it was the age

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Speaker 1: of foolishness. It was three t PMS cars in the

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Speaker 1: shop at Orie Automotive this week. That just redefine the

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Speaker 1: things that can go wrong with TPMs tire pressure monitoring systems.

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Speaker 1: How many of you have a yellow tire pressure monitoring

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Speaker 1: light on you know that light on the day board,

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Speaker 1: that with the little yellow dotted circle around it, with

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit longer. Depending upon model year, because

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Speaker 1: it was deemed necessary as per the federal government. They decided, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're not checking our tire pressure often enough, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: make you do it. We're gonna give you a light

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Speaker 1: to annoy you. And it's pretty clear cut. It's pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: You look at the door placard and the you know,

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Speaker 1: driver's door. It's federal law that it's there, and it

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Speaker 1: tells you that the tire pressure has to be thirty

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Speaker 1: at about sixty eight degrees. Because tire pressure does change

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Speaker 1: with temperature, right, it goes up or down a pound

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Speaker 1: for every ten degrees of temperature change. And it's one

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Speaker 1: a continuing evolution. Had three cars this week, some of

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Speaker 1: it too. The first one, the tire pressure light was on,

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Speaker 1: But whichever the case, there was enough of a pressure

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Speaker 1: Remember that there will be no fault codes in the system.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing out of the ordinary to look at except

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Speaker 1: ten bank. We love the tire tank. We've talked about this,

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Speaker 1: like the Swammy of all tools. It tells you everything

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Speaker 1: must have missed something. I must have not calibrated this ride,

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Speaker 1: went out, went for another ride. When for a ride

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Speaker 1: more than just frustrating. Went through this three times, you know,

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Speaker 1: and the tire pressure censor tool sends out a wake

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Speaker 1: up signal to each individual sensor. So you pointed at

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Speaker 1: and the censor still read. And the serial number on

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Speaker 1: It will clone that serial number seven eight nine, So

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Speaker 1: I've never seen this, and but it happened, and I

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Speaker 1: fifteen ft wide. So we were about seventy five ft

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Speaker 1: Dave and up there in Holyoake, mass and see what's

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Speaker 1: going on here. Yes, sir, welcome to the Car Doctor. Dave. Hey, Dave,

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Speaker 1: that the Buat dealer had better than thirty cars sitting

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00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: on the back lot. And I don't know whatever happened

427
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: to him. I don't know if GM took them back

428
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: or they got dispursed to other dealerships. But um, yeah,

429
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: that was that was not a very popular uh, you know,

430
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: not a very popular option for some people. After a

431
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: while they found it. That was that. I love It's

432
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: told you everything. I thought it was a neat idea,

433
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: But I've got to tell you. I remember saying to

434
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: myself thirty years ago when these came out, somebody's gonna

435
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: have this problem someday and you know, here you are.

436
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize I'd be doing at the National

437
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: Radio at this level. But um no, it's it's a

438
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: thing that's funny. That's the original equipment and it ran

439
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: that long. You know, well the last ten years. I mean,

440
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: you know it still works when I got there. Here's

441
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: here's the thing you gotta think about. You gotta extrapulate

442
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: this a little bit, right, So not just with your car,

443
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: but think about all the computer modules that are in

444
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: all the cars now. So let's go forward seven years.

445
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: There's nine years, ten years. You think when the TPMs

446
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: module goes bad on somebody's late model Toyota or Ford

447
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: or GM, whatever it is, they're gonna be able to

448
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: get when how long can the manufacturers keep up providing

449
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: some port on the amount of electronics that are in

450
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: cars today and still maintain a profit. You know, I'm

451
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: amazing you can get the volume of inventory and parts

452
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: for the cars that you can at the current level.

453
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: I actually called Nissan yesterday. I'll tell you a quick story.

454
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: I've got a customer with eight Nissan Maxima. Think about that.

455
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: The car is one because the nineteens are out. I

456
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: needed front dust shields, the shield that sits on the

457
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: inside of the front break rotors, still available. I ordered.

458
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: I wanted a Nissan factory mass airflow sensor, still available.

459
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: I ordered it. I wanted headlamp assemblies because we don't

460
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't really like aftermarket headlamp assemblies. They don't refract

461
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 1: light right, and they just never seem to look right. Unfortunately,

462
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: even talking to Nissan and the obsolete division not available,

463
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: but had a three's not bad, you know, one years old.

464
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: Um it's also Bill has a huntline still but I couldn't.

465
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know, no satisfaction there. Yeah, I you know,

466
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: it's a shame. I have a friend, Kenny Wazmer. I

467
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: haven't talked to Kenny in a while. Kenny and I

468
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: went to high school together, so you know, you do

469
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: the math a few years ago and um, he's retired,

470
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: so you start thinking about this. I'll never forget that

471
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: we had a conversation a year a year and a

472
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: half ago. He retired from GM as a as an

473
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: upper level chassis engineer. He'd been with GM's entire career

474
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: of thirty five forty years, whatever the heck it was,

475
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: and he said he told me one day. I he

476
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: came to the shop one day and we had a

477
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: conversation about GM and you know, had you make it

478
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: through the bankruptcy and you know, two thousand and eight

479
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: and all that, and he said, I gotta it was

480
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: really interesting. He said, we had to cut down on

481
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: the number of warehouses. We had to think about this

482
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: a minute, you know, he said, he said, we had

483
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: to cut down on the number of warehouses we had.

484
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: From whatever we had were now down to six or

485
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: seven major parts warehouses around Detroit. That how's the GM

486
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: parts collection and vintage parts assortment? And I said, what

487
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: do you mean by that? And he said, well, you know,

488
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: we're General Motors. He said, in theory, we could go

489
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: out and rebuild any vehicle we've ever made in the

490
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: last eighty years from existing parts we still have in stock.

491
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: We just don't release to the public. That's insane, you know.

492
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: Of course I wanted to know, could I get a

493
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: fifty five Chevy Bell Air four door with factory air?

494
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: But you know that's just me um. So let's see

495
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: what we can do for you here, Davy. If if

496
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: if I come across something interesting, I'll send it your way.

497
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: You send me an email ron at Card Doctor Show

498
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: dot com. Check out model Electronics and you know, obviously

499
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been to eBay and and and and

500
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: those type of things you look out on the web. Yeah, okay,

501
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: and let's see what we can help you out here.

502
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: All right, sir, No, you don't have my email address

503
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: because I did send it to you, but that's okay.

504
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: I'll send it. Yeah, re send it. I didn't see it,

505
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: so just make sure you're sending to Ron at Car

506
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: Doctors Show dot com. Okay, all right, sir, you're very welcome, Dave.

507
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Zero great chat. God. CRT cars,

508
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: I forgot all about them. I'm run on any of

509
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: the car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome

510
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: back the car Doctor, you know, real quick, well before

511
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: we go to ben in Rhode Island. The reason the

512
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: CRT s the touch screens were so damaging in a sense.

513
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: On the GM cars back in the eighties, there was

514
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: no tactile feel. It was a flat screen tube. So

515
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: you're driving along, oh, let me change the heat. It

516
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: physically required you taking your eye off the road to

517
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 1: look down and where's the heat functional? It's over here?

518
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: You couldn't reach down, which is why I always say

519
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: to each and every one of you when you talk

520
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: about buying a new car, always make sure you look

521
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: at it. You know, if you can you feel buttons,

522
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: can you feel the screen? The software changes very important

523
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: that you're able to reach and touch things with your hands,

524
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: and your hands become your eyes in a sense that

525
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: you don't have to take your eyes off the road.

526
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: But that was the downfall of those cars. Let's go

527
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: over to Ben and rde Island. Ben, thank you. What's

528
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: going on here? Sir? What can I do to help? Hey? Ron,

529
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: I have less of a car mechanical issue and more

530
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: of a car mechanic issue. UM. Long story short, UM.

531
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: I bought UM forty. It had basically a bad clutch,

532
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: and it turned out a bad clutch fork. UM brought

533
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: it to a mechanic I had some relationship with, and

534
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: he replaced the clutch, and the clutch for got. The

535
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: car back shifted really well. It kind of noisy, and

536
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: I suspected it was a transmission issue, and I told

537
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: him UM to be very aggressive if he had any

538
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: concerned about the transmission to just you know, he already

539
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: got it out. Just let's put another one in if

540
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: if you know, it makes any sense. So, long story short,

541
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: I bring the car back to him, you know, with

542
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: a complaint about um, the noise. And then also the

543
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: heater control valve was clearly wide open. There was just

544
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: heat on all the time and a hundreds and million degrees. UM.

545
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: I was asking for a quote on new seats and

546
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: then asking him for a quote on air conditioning. Long

547
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: story short, I get the car back. Um, heater control

548
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: valve is still wide open. He's so hot all the time. UM.

549
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: Car is way less noisy. UM. He said he didn't

550
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: do anything to address the noise, but um, suspiciously, the

551
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: car is like really less noisy. UM. He put new

552
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: seats in at three hundred dollars. He had told me

553
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: that they matched the car and they were in perfect condition.

554
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: And it turns out they didn't match the car. It

555
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: wasn't in perfect condition. And then with the a C

556
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I got the car back driving into my driveway, the

557
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: power steering sailed. UM. I opened up the hood. The

558
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: pensioning rod is like disconnected. There's like hardware missing. UM.

559
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: The belt to the a C pump is like beyond

560
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: bone tight. Um. And so I I went back to

561
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: talk to him, and I actually just dropped the feats off.

562
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: I've found another pair of seats for forty dollars. UM.

563
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: I dropped the old seats off and said, you know, listen,

564
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues. I'd like three hundred dollars

565
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: back for the uth feats that you gave me. He refused.

566
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: He said, I'll give you three hundred dollars in store credit,

567
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: which you know I don't want because I don't want

568
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: him touching my car ever again. UM. But you know,

569
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: I sent him a long letter UM explaining all of this. UM.

570
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: And at this point I happened to pay with a card.

571
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: So somebody did suggest to me to just dispute the

572
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars because I did return the seats in

573
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, perfect condition. So there's a part of it

574
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: where like I he you know, in my opinion, he

575
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: kind of nussed up the car and I've had to

576
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, fix all the things that it id. Replaced

577
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: the heater control valve, and I fixed the belts and

578
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: UM took the seats out and got reasonably priced seats

579
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: that were just as good. UM. So I see, you know,

580
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: my from my standpoint, I'm like, gee, can I at

581
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: least get three hundred bucks back for seats that I

582
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't want that I'm returning and exactly the same condition

583
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: as I got them. Um So, I'm trying to figure

584
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: out what to do, like if I should just go

585
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: forward with the speating the track transaction with the credit

586
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: card company, or if I should I don't know, try

587
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: to get you know, some parts out of him or

588
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: some credit to you know, I p D or Europarks

589
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: or or somewhere that I will eventually use. But I'd

590
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: rather get the cash back and let me let me,

591
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: let me jump in here, ben So, um you know,

592
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: real quick, we're gonna and then we're gonna pull over

593
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: and take a pause and I'll come back to you.

594
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: Um you know, is this your regular mechanic? No, not really, No.

595
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: I the whole process of buying the car. I bought

596
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: it for seven D and I know he worked specifically

597
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: on two boards basically, and so I know he knows

598
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: the cars, and um so I had a relationship with

599
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: him because I was actually gonna buy a car from him,

600
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: but the timing didn't work out. Basically, I end up

601
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: getting this other one. Um So, other than you know, yeah,

602
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: this experience, No, I don't, there's no other fus. I

603
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: mean I did have a reasonable experience with him the

604
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: first time around where he did at least fix the

605
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: shifting issues, which was the complaint from you know, brought

606
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: in the car. What was the heat a problem when

607
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: you brought him the car for the clutch? It was,

608
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: but I actually did not know that at the time.

609
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: That was not not a complaint that I brought up.

610
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he may have noticed it but didn't tell me.

611
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: I I'll tell you what, Ben, sit tight, Judge Rown, judge,

612
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: Judy whatever, same thing. I'll be back right after this.

613
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it ron and eating the car. Doctor.

614
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: Don't anybody go away? Hey, welcome back in any of

615
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: the car docker Ben Rhode Island. You're still there, sir. Um. So,

616
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I think this is a conversation about you got to

617
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: decide how aggravated you want to be, all right. I

618
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: don't think you want to go back to this guy.

619
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: I get that, Um, And I'm not gonna sit here

620
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: and say you should even try. I think what I

621
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: think your your your positive takeaway is he needed a clutch.

622
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: He put a clutch in. He did the job all right, Um,

623
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: you know your issue is with the seats. The heat

624
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: was broken beforehand. It sounds like the car has got

625
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: some other issues going on that I don't know that

626
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: he necessarily created from our conversation, but maybe he should

627
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: have noticed. It's it's it's easy to it's easy to

628
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: criticize from my seat. I've I've I've been in the

629
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: position of the other you know, the other side, and

630
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: I I you know, maybe he missed it. It just

631
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: might be as simple as that. For some more details

632
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: about the A C. Like he said he put in

633
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: a new A C pump uh, you know, a compressor, um,

634
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: And that's what he told me he did. And then

635
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: he told me the VAPP eight was clogged and he

636
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: was gonna have to tear the dash out and didn't

637
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Speaker 1: recommend to do that. So, you know, I've been sort

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00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: of poking around and testing things, and it turns out

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00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: the compressor in there is bad, which I actually knew

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00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: from the previous owner that the compressor was bad. So

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Speaker 1: I have a like wacky theory that he put in

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00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: the new compressor, you know, system didn't work and he

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00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: wanted to keep his good compressor. He took it out.

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Speaker 1: He never charged me for a compressor. I'll still even

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00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: though he told me he put one in. So it's

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00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: just like there's so it's like I don't even know

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Speaker 1: where to begin with the inconsistencies, and I feel like

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00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: he just flapped the old compressor back in. They didn't

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Speaker 1: pay attention to type belt or anything perfectly good coming

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Speaker 1: back in. So, so here's the scenario. You got to

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Speaker 1: the side. You know what, I think. I think I

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00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: pushed the button on the three for the seats. You

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Speaker 1: know what, unless it was expressly explained to you that

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00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: they're nonrefundable, that it's you know, once you buy it,

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00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: you own it kind of a thing, and only you

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00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: know that answer, then it's time to go back to

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00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: the credit card company and prottest it and get your

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Speaker 1: money back and take it from there. I'm running any

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Speaker 1: in the car, doctor, Good mechanics aren't expensive. Their places