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Cheers. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.639 He's a legendary queen's rapper, Hank Segue dies your boy 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.080 and he's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.640 d J e f N. Together they drink it up 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.320 with some of the biggest players in music and sport. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.600 You know, I mean the most professional unprofessional podcast. This 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:54.960 is Drinks Chip Ready Whar Every day is New Year's 0:00:54.960 --> 0:01:01.200 eud you know, Hay Hank Sechus, this is your Boy 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.280 and the DJ e f And right now we are 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:09.959 blessed with the legendary so we gotta gotta make some 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.640 hold on, hold on, because the intro was crazy. This 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:19.280 guy right here, like listen, listen, um, they have the 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:24.560 they have the Godfathers, and this man is directly like 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:30.120 my father in lyrics, like in in style, and I 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:35.080 directly try to be like this man right here, and 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.839 I send out the APB, try to make it happen. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.479 Let's pick up a Hakim Green off top channel last 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.760 squark baddi is Um, we love you Hakim. But we 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.600 got the blast Master, we got the teacher, we got 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:55.640 the father directly templar hip hop all that, the Master, 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.600 the dude who made it cool to learn earned in 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.320 music and still be entertained. You could be smart and 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.960 you could still dug it the funk out, yo. The 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.840 other day, I'm gonna be honest, I'm watching right Along Too. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.760 And at the end of Right Along Too, my kids 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.919 they are eight and they are six, and they sung, 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.720 they said, whoa, whoa, this is the sign of the police. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.239 And at that moment, I knew I was a great father. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.919 I knew at that very moment I was a great father. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.960 When my kids knew the sign of the police. We 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:37.440 have the one and only legendary. You can't say hip 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:46.480 hop without caress One in the building. Drink man, Oh 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.320 my god, we are yo. You know what the crazy 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.840 ship is. I'm gonna start the interview offs like this. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.880 When I was locked up in a juvenile detention center, 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:59.280 I had a CEO who was taking care of me, right, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.320 he was, you know, holding me down, and he could 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.960 have snucked me weed. He could have snucked me liquor. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.480 He could have snucked me books. But I wanted that 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.880 criminal mind. This is real ship. This is you know, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.360 how much of a big caress fan. That's what the 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:22.520 track I wanted to do is. I'm the biggest caress 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.680 One fan. Man, Let's just make some noise for him 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:30.120 being in the building. Come on, come on, come on, cheers, cheers, yo, yo, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:34.600 we got the fun up noise. Make it so blast 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.840 master caress One. How does it feel to be in Miami? 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:41.280 How long you've been coming out here? Man? Don't even yo, man, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.960 I've been coming to Miami since like eighties seven. We 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.120 were coming up here, man, struggling, trying to be heard, 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.960 and there was only a few places that actually like 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:57.000 embraced us. Philly was always right there. Philly feel it Delfy, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.960 just the whole Philly that like, we went from New 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.560 York to Philly. That so let me stop. So you 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.400 think that New York artist is that like the first marketing? 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.240 That's that is for me to like, Philly was the first, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.760 then Connecticut and and see you look how you said 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.600 that Philly was the next, and then Connecticut. Connecticut is 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.120 right on top, right there next to the Bronx. Philly 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.000 would get it first. Philly would hit you first if 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:25.080 you did New York and Philly, Connecticut yonkers all up, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.320 Boston was trying to see you. Maybe some of the 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.719 South like that. So going down to a nine five 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.760 man was like, I mean big up to v a 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:39.480 North catallax South Carolina. It's it was sort of like 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.680 the rights of passage. You had to get out of 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:47.239 New York, go down each city, each state or nine five, 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.560 and your final victory was Miami if you made it 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:57.279 down man, See this is one MCS was real. Uh 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.360 straight up, you have to do clubs. Let me take 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.520 you to the nine Let's come around ninety two, that's 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:07.800 what I'm Somewhere around nineties, right around the college was 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.880 just start and he had a thing called the Temple 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:16.240 and even before that, even before that, Oh yeah, mother Superior. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:17.920 Wait wait wait, actually I got you know what nerd 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:22.200 war is. No, he's this guy who interviews people. He 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:27.760 brings out props that would remind you of stuff. We're okay, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:34.080 this is what I got. Let's make some noise. Having 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:41.960 autographed too, it's authentic, so you put that on. It 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.000 was a show supposed to be at the Spot underground 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.160 compound and it got shut down by the cops and 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.440 we moved it to Zulu headquarters. There was no that 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.000 a c wasn't on. He took the people were faking 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.560 in the eyes and he started throwing these balls. That 0:05:55.600 --> 0:06:00.440 was crazy. That was ninety three. I was in high 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.920 school at the least at the least. Right, well, let's 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.000 started right there. That's way he's been coming to Miami 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.440 since then, since then, breaking it down, crushing Miami. And 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.720 it wasn't the hip hop scene out here back then. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.560 Back then Luke was the man out here. Two Live 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.560 Crew was straight destroy in the South, like there was 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.200 nothing else really happened, to be honest with you, But 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.760 there was always that boom bap element in in. I 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.200 mean just I just have to say Florida, because you 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.200 know from Miami all the way up to what Tallahassee, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.560 even even Gainesville, Jacksonville, all that's boom bap that that's 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:43.200 a hardcore up there. But Luke, But there was that 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.000 divided for us in the city between the base scene 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.159 and scene. That's right, There wasn't divide. I mean it 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.080 had its own audience, you know what I'm saying. It 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:52.760 had its own We've seen a lot as a New 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.120 York thing, right, but we were trying to build that 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.880 identity for ourselves. But I think it was way smaller. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:59.919 But I think the New York thing was way smaller. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.280 Two Live Crew. Look look that whole sound. So you're 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.680 saying from the beginning when Two Live Crew came, the 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.400 South immediately accepted them as opposed to new in New York, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.520 you had to be hot in New York. No, actually, 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.800 you go to Philly. Wait a minute, the second part 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.400 is true. Yes, you had to be hot in New 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.120 York first to go to Philly. With the exception of 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:23.760 like Tap Money three times, Dobe Uh, Steady b even 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.960 Jazzy Jeff Fresh, Prince Uh, they blew up in Philly 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:32.560 and convinced New York what it was. But you have 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.800 um back then, the base scenes. I'm trying to think 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.960 of dudes that were not so popular, but Miami had 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:48.080 a base scene that let me and then with these 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:53.600 dudes with so Luther Campbell and Two Live Crew was 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.160 on top of that, they came up out of that scene. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.680 They didn't really invent it, but they was just sort 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.360 of the pot feel the ones that that was doing it, 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.240 and Luke was just I went to one of these 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.320 concerts one night. You know, you wouldn't believe what was 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.840 going on. And then on top of that, what makes 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.360 it really really hip hop on on on that level 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.920 is that Two Live Crew was was the ones that 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:20.120 were dragged into court on obscenity charges and had they 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:25.520 lost that case, Rock would be sounding a whole lot. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:33.760 Let's make some noise for that happening. Even when you're 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.760 rolling the blunt man, stop and clap your hands. You 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.800 had the black mass in the building, right, So, UM, 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:41.880 you got that, you got that that thing, and I 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.760 want to set up I play that play that real quick. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.720 I want to play something for you. One of the 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.200 one of the greatest calls I ever got in my life. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:56.080 And um, it's set up past. It's Cool Hurt. What's up, brother, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.960 That's right, My brother was going on. Man, I just 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:07.920 missed your call. Man, Man, I got you on speaking 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.640 for him right now. Man, let them Let them dudes know. Baby, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.000 let the dudes. No, you're the Gulf for the hip hop. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:22.079 Cool Hurt number one. That's right, baby, you're the original 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:32.760 o G. That's right. Baby. You know I love you absolutely. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.560 You know I love you to death. Cool Hirk Man, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:43.000 you know what I mean. Not in w all right, baby, 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.680 hold on, I'm gonna take this off of this SI 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.920 for me. You can speak private, but yo, man, just 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.480 let the people know one more time. This is my 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.199 Dyslexia album. Man, tell them niggas. You know what I mean. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:59.000 Where I got an album called Dyslexia? Man, thank you man. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.720 This this, this is the Godfather, Cool Hurt or the 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.440 game speaking to your fucking assholes. Cool Hurt right here. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.599 And I'm the father and not the godfather. Secondary you 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.600 the father the father? All right? My brother hold on, 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.600 hit you right back? I Hurt, all right, hold on, 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.960 hold on, hold on. So one day I got a 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.760 call from cool Hurd, right, which is for me. I'm 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.160 a real hip hop guy. You know what I'm saying. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.000 I respect everything that came before me. And when Cool 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.480 Hurd called me, I had called him something. I said, 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.719 you're the godfather of hip hop. And I said it 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.760 once and he let it slide. And then I said 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.200 it again and he let it slide. But then the 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.240 third time I said it, I said, Cool, let these 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.720 motherfucker's no, you know, uh godfather hip hop? He said, Normy, 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.000 hold on, let me stop you. I am the father. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.559 Do you agree with that statement? Yes, I totally agree 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.840 with the statement. There's there's huge debate on it, okay, 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.640 because everyone wants to take credit for hip hop now 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:08.400 for its origins. Uh, we call technically to be scholarly correct. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:13.600 Cool Hark is called the recognized father of hip hop, 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.680 the recognized father of hip hop. We call him the 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.439 father of hip hop. And the reason we call him 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.520 the father of hip hop is because Bam called him 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.400 the father of hip hop. Grandmaster has called him the 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.600 father of hip hop. Peewee Dance and Grandmaster Flash from 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.599 this group and Crazy Legs called him the father of 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:36.120 hip hop. Now, this is a family situation. All these guys, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.440 we all know each other and they know it, but 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.920 you're there, younger home. Oh yes, no doubt, no doubt. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.040 Her calls me the son of hip hop because okay, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.040 let me break it down for me, right for me, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.920 alright for me. When I heard her say that he 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.319 was the father, automatically saluted that never and then I 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.839 thought of Bambada as the godfather, and then I think 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:05.360 view Rock Kim, Big Daddy Kane as the father's right 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.080 and then then after that comes Wu Tang like where 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.120 are your little cousins, Wu Tang, marb Deep the fat, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:17.280 Joe's the component, Noriega's the MLP. We're actually your son's 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.599 direct like I don't know what Paul's I know this 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:27.199 new generation, but you're actually our fathers like you Rock Kim, 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.320 Big Daddy Kane. And so I have to ask this 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.080 question with that being said, with the name being like, 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.400 how how is hip hop supposed to respond to the Bambada? 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:42.880 Like how are we supposed to do that? From? I 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.640 just don't know. That's why it's a generic question, which 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.240 what what should we do? Because you're you're being our father. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:54.160 Whatever you say, I have to move accordance to it. Well, 0:12:54.200 --> 0:13:00.640 you know, with the first of all, controversy is not truth. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.840 What you want is truth right now? You want truth, 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:11.440 But truth is also not information. It's not gossip. It's 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:16.400 not even conversation. For me, if you keep it hip hop, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:21.360 nothing could be taken away from Africa ban not just 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.240 keep it hip hop, but if you want to dig 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.480 in the dude's personal life and accusations it is being 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.520 made and so on. Personally me personally, I don't give 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.600 a fuck. Personally. Look if if somebody was harmed or 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.240 whatever was done, whatever, y'all deal with that ship what 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.200 what deal with it? That? Don't stop hip hop? That 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:47.760 don't stop with take away under history's history, but deal 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.760 with you deal with that. That's personal. I don't you know, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.520 I don't even know what to sell past. You know, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.679 but even if you knew the facts, you know what 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.360 I'm saying. A person like me, I deal with with 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:06.000 dudes that are questionable all the time, not just if 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.520 the accusation is right. I do I know dudes that 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.120 are doing You know what I'm saying. If you if 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.960 you know anybody from prison, if you don't nothing to shout, 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.760 you know anybody, if you live really in the hoods, 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.760 you know shooters, you know, dudes running from the you 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.080 know your man might have an open warrant on him 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.440 right now, like right now, like you know what I'm saying. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:33.280 You know, I'm not judging these motherfucker's man, that's right here, Yo, 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.600 that's it now. What you do and your crime and 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.840 your ship and your bullshit, whatever you're doing, that's on you. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.360 That's you, my g that's whatever you're doing. That's how 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.160 I always dealt with it. I can't pick and choose. Hey, yo, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.880 this dude right here, I mean I was producing Justice album, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.520 right Who's crazy already came to Queen's Bridge by himself? 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:03.760 Yes it is. Let's make some just like every change 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.960 the subject too. I was talking, let's say the subject, 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.359 let's go. Yeah, but I mean he was on America's 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:14.960 Most Wanted is. Let's make this is real hip This 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.920 is real hip hop, shot man. Hip hop is in 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.040 the world like everybody else, like every other culture. We 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:26.160 in the world, politicians with bottom line is we we 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:31.360 are humans. That humans, all humans. But now with that 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:37.920 being said, right, what is your favorite MC battle Because 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.600 I mean you don't have to, you can do with 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.720 yourself if you want to. But what is your favorite 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.840 MC battle. To be honest with you, I mean, there's 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.880 a lot this huge that I really what comes to 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.600 the top of your head. The first one that comes 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.560 to my head is freeway in cassidy for me. Let's 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.360 make some noise, but caress one. No one's going on. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.840 Do you know what's going on in the streets? No, No, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.520 that that's I mean, it's an old battle. But if 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.880 you talk about showmanship, you know, instant rhymes on deck 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:17.280 right there? That was hot? Okay, um, I gotta ask 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:21.200 you about what's up? What what? How did you like? 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.440 What did you like? It was it? It isn't your 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.560 even battles? I think I think it gave both of 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.440 them credibility and what wait? Well, because for me as 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.760 an m C, like like when people say top five, okay, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.440 everybody got their top five. Everybody, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.200 But if you ain't battle, if you ain't did tours, 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.480 if you ain't putting no hits out, if you ain't 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.560 put somebody else on or came from a legacy that 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.440 was wild, you ain't even nowhere near the top five. So, dudes, 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.840 is like, I'm looking for young cats today to really 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.560 rise up to the criteria. First, first, with your battle 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.720 you say you dope, bring it right now, because his 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.399 nigg is like me out here, like straight up, I 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:15.200 stay hung okay, stay hungry. You claim you hungry, you 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.520 claim who you know, I'm the man, I'm I'm in 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:21.240 this and now today with social media, you could claim 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:26.320 anything and everybody. So with Draking Mills, to me, it 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.879 gave them the credibility that they needed for even me 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.240 to look at them as real mcs. I like both 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.760 of the lyrics. By the way, Drake. I think it's 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.359 underrated in terms of because maybe he's doing the pop 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.440 thing or whatever, but his lyrics is still dope from 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.920 a MC perspective. No let me, I don't. I don't 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.840 want to cut you off. But there's been allegations that 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.000 he had help on his lyrics. You writers, you, how 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.359 do you feel like this? I'm very curious that this 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.480 look because but because you do come from a day 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.440 where people are by um writing bismarck lyrics. This Mark 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.119 was upfront about it. Ice Cube said, um he's he 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.520 said ice Cube the rhymes that I say, and to me, 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.480 he was one of the most So how did you 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.959 feel when you found out that Drake might have had 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.159 some help. Was that doesn't disturb me at all. It 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:24.360 diminishes him in front of those that write their own lyrics. Okay, now, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.200 those of us to split the raw from our own heart. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:29.919 You you really got to step up and come up 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.760 to the plate on that level. But we're talking about 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.120 m C and as a whole art. Talk about rappers 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.840 a whole art. No, if you got a dope writer 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.639 that can make you sound like something, got ahead and 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.520 get with dude. The issue is writing. This is the 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:49.000 issue writing. Don't rhymes. I don't give a funk where 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:53.120 it comes from. Writer whoever. Some of the dopest dudes, 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.119 and I'm not gonna call no names rhymes. You said, Yo, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.680 it's like this secrets in hip. Okay, his news that 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.439 dude right for them, that's not a problem. Not me. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.720 I never had the privilege of anyone writing for me. Okay, 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:12.080 I I you know you're too smart. Let me tell you. 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.359 Let me tell you. If Rock Kim came to me 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.320 with a rahm, I say that ship this is crazy. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:23.040 I say that this is crazy. I need to believed. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.439 You have to listen. Drake sent me to check. I 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.520 have just saved just saved you. You are that cool 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.320 in every community drinking k r S has set it 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.719 on a drink Chess podcast that he's okay. No, I'm okay. 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:41.560 Look not it real spinn is it right? They rhymes? 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.160 It will never be okay with real spins it right there? Okay, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.440 but that's our lane, that's our category. That's a level 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:52.080 of excellence that you have to get to. Okay, now, 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:56.520 but my issue is right, Look, here's the opposite. Some 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.160 dude write your rhymes and they whack and you say 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.480 them ships and way I heard dude say what ROMs 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:09.160 that they didn't even right. That's corny, Okay, but if 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.119 you got a real shooter with you, dude, it's right 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.800 and raw ship. We'll make sure he paid a brother, 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.920 make sure he gets some credit at some point in 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.560 your career. Let's say that ship, say that dope ship. 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:27.480 Hip hop needs dope lyrics. We don't need dope. Mcs understand, 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.040 we need dope lyrics. We need to write. I don't 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.239 care where it comes from. Your mom's could write you 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:45.160 some ship. That ship is dope right, most lyrics, you're saying, 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.280 it's the vessel. It's just about mcs all the vessel. Look, 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.200 if you really get down to it, I don't write 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.600 my own lyrics. God writes my lyrics, goddamnit. So if 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.680 you think about it, none of us are writing our 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.879 own lyrics. We all any m C that writes his lyrics. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:00.639 You know, you're sitting there with the pen, the pad 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.040 or whatever, your phone, whatever it is, and you hum 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:07.240 your ship out. You hear that ship from someplace else. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:15.000 You're like criminal man and dj is don't even start 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:19.879 with that. You as producers, you hear the beats before 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.240 you hit the thing. You know what you're gonna do, 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.120 before you do it. You hum it out, you bang 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.679 it out, but you hear something. So no one is original, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.960 No art is original. We are all being influenced by 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:38.040 everything and everyone. The corny motherfucker is the one who 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.880 doesn't say, yo, my g wrote this. Give it three years, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.280 four years. You know you made some success after you 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.840 got on spicking man. Acknowledge, acknowledge your dude, man, Yo, 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.040 this is what it is. Hit him with his cash. 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:52.720 You he know, you know he helped you get what 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.480 You gotta go. Hit him with his cash. Make sure 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:59.160 he's good and his family is good. That's respecting hip hop. 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.720 That's big respect now in this day, Like a lot 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:03.680 of the o G s, they'll sit back and they'll 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:08.440 be like, you know, I don't like this. Do you 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.399 listen to what's going on now? Or you know they 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:17.439 had their chance, they're over, They're finished that they had 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.399 their chances. That ship is over. That's just funk. All 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.240 that old school show, all that's just done. You do 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:27.760 listen to the new school. Yeah, I listened to everything. Okay, 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.199 I listen to everything. Okay. I was just with my 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.840 man l A. Sunshine. He put a book out. He 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.199 was just kicking it up in the Bronx. That's my 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.159 G right there, Komo D that's my G. Busy b 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:42.200 no doubt. These are my dogs, no doubt. But let 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.560 me let me let me see Joey Badass right now, 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.520 let me see you know. Um yeah, you know what 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.560 I'm saying, like like I don't want to call names, 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:58.720 but I'm just saying let me just you know, but no, 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:05.879 I listened to every thing. Man. Yeah, I really appreciate 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:11.080 um you having that attitude because now I am They 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.359 called me a o G. Now thirty years you know, 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:19.760 hip hop was born and what Yeah, seventy three. I 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.480 was born in seventy seven. So now they're calling me 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.280 a O G and I want to sit back and 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.320 I want to give back to this life. So we 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:30.680 we were doing this podcast. I want to get people 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.560 like you a platform to say whatever the funk you 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.720 want to see any time. You know, it's okay, we 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.800 don't get, we don't care, get another drink. So this 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:47.560 has been one of my um uh accomplishments in life. 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.000 You know, people got bucket list. You know, You've always 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.800 been a person that I've learned from, Like, whether you 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.639 know it direct or indirect. You ain't even asked me 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.680 to pass the blank some foul people, but it's okay, 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:05.760 I understand from kindle, so I'm not looking so you directly, 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.359 you directly. Somebody said to me the other day. It 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.919 said Jay Z and Jay the Kiss raised me with 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.399 their bars and they fucked me up because I was like, 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.800 damn well. Then I always told people if you take 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.239 care ress one and then you take a little bit 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.000 of bis markey and a little bit of Granddaddy are you, 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.720 that's when you get in all. But you noticed I 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:33.120 never took none of your styles. But I was as yeah, 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.280 that's that's three totally different people. But that's who made 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:41.960 me because you taught me that black is beautiful and 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:47.560 be yourself. BIS taught me. BIS taught me life Ain't 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:52.879 that serious, homie, have some fun. And then Granddaddy you 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:56.159 told me how to be exact opposite of him because 0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.200 he was so smooth, Like I feel like Granddaddy you 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.960 was like the cane that never I'm gonna take it. 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.879 My first interview ever smoking, you know, big up hockey 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:10.320 in Green. My brother, my brother. Another legend is in 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.960 the building. Swark matters and let's just get into that. Man, 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:18.920 How did swark maddism come about? Damn Well, first of all, 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.919 Hawk was a was a school teacher. No, I did 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:27.600 never knew that let's make some noise to school with 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.880 the teacher. Okay with the teacher. So he was one 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.600 of the many teachers and professors I was rolling with 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:39.119 about ninety three. Hot rolled up and said, yo, So 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.280 I took he kept coming to my lectures. I was 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.520 doing lectures around, so he kept coming to the lectures. 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.840 So I said, you know, you look like you am sick. 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.640 It look like you know you get that back there. Yeah, 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.480 you just started that's rights and I said, you know, 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.480 you look like an m C. He was like, why 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.480 how did you so make a long story shot? I 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.760 heard him. I loved it, but I said, that's solo MC. 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.199 Thing not gonna work. We need two people. This is 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:09.040 like das Effects was hitting nice and smooth. They were 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:14.880 signed to Yes, well technically to to my wife Simone 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.239 was running Front Page Records. Technically k Arrest was with 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:22.800 the label Channel Live Mad lion Um for a minute, 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.160 even Fat Joe. But but we was closing the label 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.320 at at the closing the company, the management company at 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.720 the time when Joe just started to blow, We was 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.719 just coming down on on on that level, same thing 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:41.600 with excuse me, priz and and no not before they 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.919 would have oh yeah, actually the refugees, it was just 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:49.800 Prize and to sign yes we we We did some 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.080 of their first shows, you know for no note no 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:57.000 that was no no, no. We wasn't in no position 0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:01.400 whatsoever to deal with them. They they you can white 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.000 Coulf used to pull out a guitar. He still does 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:10.160 it in the middle of it. He still doesn't. He's 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.720 just started out like you know, it was like you know, 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.240 you got ahead and uh, but but it was dope. 0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:20.119 So anyway, we got in the studio, and you know, 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.000 I grew up in a herb culture. You know what 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.520 I'm saying. I grew up in Flatbush, Brooklyn Church Havnue 0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:30.560 right there and he Rasmus High School, wing Gate High School, 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.040 shout out to Prospect, the whole nine. So I grew 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.359 up there in the seventies when you were born seventies, 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:45.240 I was in the parks. Memory. The reason we went 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:49.200 in Brooklyn, and you're trying to get is that's going 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:53.879 on our game. So there we was in Flatbush. So 0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.960 I grew up in in in herb culture and not 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.280 from the point of view like are we just gonna 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.160 smoke mud. I was with with Rosters and the Ethiopian 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.960 Orthodox Church. We had the Bible open. Dudes was smoking 0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:12.040 towards the east. Childie burned down roam. Every time the 0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.919 child is burned, you had to say, yo. We was 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.120 like in that culture for real. So it was like 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.879 I grew up with like no problem, like yo burned apart. 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.760 Why does no big deal? One moved up to the 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.359 Bronx when I became homeless like an one or two. 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.440 So that story is true. Oh yeah, no doubt about 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.199 four years. That's how I met Scott Larrock. Uh he 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.360 was a social worker in the shelter. But we'll get 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:39.560 back to that. Uh. So I grew up in the culture. 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.320 So for me, Peter Toash since nineteen seventy one was 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:47.680 yelling for the legalization of marijuana. Since seventy one. Everybody 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:52.719 know that. You know, the judges are smoking, the cops smoke. 0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:57.520 The doctor's been saying, this is the safest plant. In fact, 0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:03.720 this is the healing of the nation right here, all times, kancers, 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.160 you name it, herb is the healing for that. But 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.200 now you got this tax issue, and you got this 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.000 dudes that don't want to give up their power. They 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.440 get more money and more power selling it illegally. You 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.480 don't you really don't want the government selling weed. You 0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.360 really don't want that because the idea is that it's 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.760 gonna get whacked. It's like whatever the government put they 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.280 they can't even teach English correctly, like you know what 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.280 I'm saying, Like anything that the government puts his hand into, 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.800 it starts to get sterile, it starts to get waged. 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.040 You don't have no complication wordered down. So dude is like, no, 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.160 we want to grow that ship right there in Mexico, 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:43.760 right there in Afghanistan, right there up in and now Colorado, Seattle. 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.560 They just went rogue with it and just said, you 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.760 know what, We're just gonna do it. And I think 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.760 it was done for the kids in the area because 0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.720 they're not locking their kids up, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.680 They're not gonna do that. They rather change the laws 0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.200 than see their kids in the family go through that. 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.480 That's why I think it really got legalized. You could 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.560 cite medical lists or medical that, but really it's it's 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.040 a it's an issue of going to prison. Families have 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:14.040 been ruined by just smoking a joint or having herb 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.680 on you. This is a plant that grows and in 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:21.520 the world. Like how is the government like even allowed 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.240 to tell you how you should think? Like that's to begin, 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.440 Like like if I smoke button, I'm like, yeah, I 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.200 feel great on this. Why are you telling me? I 0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.680 don't like like like the use of the word nigga 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:40.080 for instance, same ship, that's my nigga right there. I 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:44.400 know what I'm saying, nigga, I got three pH d s. Nigga, 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.480 I write books, nigga, what I know, what the funk 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:51.880 I'm saying. But now, black people ain't supposed the thing. 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.040 We're not supposed to have governance over our own mouth, 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.080 over our own thinking. So if I tell you, listen, 0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.960 when I say my nigga, I'm talking really mean my brother. 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.480 Listen to how I say it, my nigger, that's my 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.360 brother right there. Now, I just told you what it is. 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:12.160 The problem is there's no law in the United States 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.960 made by black people that white people are bound to respect. 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.240 Imagine we follow all a laws, what lord they follow 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.480 of ours? There's no Latino brother to kings. I said, look, 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.280 this is what helps Latino people. Right here, y'all gonna fight. 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.120 We want black whits everybody. You're gonna follow our laws. 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.640 We we follow the Constitution, Should we follow state ordinances? 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.640 All that's white law. But here's now the Native American 0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.600 law while we're not. Nah, this country is not built 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:46.160 on following anybody else's law except their own. And when 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:50.320 it comes to marijuana, it becomes an issue of freedom 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:54.560 of thought, like this is how I think. Do you 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.800 have the right to tell me what state of mind 0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:01.400 I should be into? Like, no, this is the state 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.800 of mind that I feel I should be. And as 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:08.520 a matter of fact, the U. S Constitution, it's federal 0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.440 law to be happy in the United States, the pursuit 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.880 of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So if 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:20.160 you get happiness, that's illegal. If you're sad and depressed 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:24.440 in the US, you broke federal law. Wow, you broke 0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.360 federal law. The government should be doing. The Constitution and 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.360 the Declaration of Independence. The spirit of it is all 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:39.440 about liberty, justice, freedom, happiness for all. The pursuit of 0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:53.080 happiness is law. Welcome to Play, a new podcast network 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:57.720 featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, 0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:02.200 and more. Play it at play dot In We're back 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:06.760 to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then, 0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.360 so I'm gonna change it up real quick. Come on 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.920 a crazy hip hop story. As you went to the 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:19.520 Palladium and you threw P M. Dawn off the stage, 0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:21.960 I gotta get this story. Let's make some noise, but 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.880 I gotta story. Yo. That's when, like you, you've been 0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.080 my hero. But like it's like that's when I made 0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.080 my choice from Malcolm and Martin. It was like Martin, 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.720 like I still think Mary was killing people at night 0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:36.840 when he went like I think he still think Marrow 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.840 was a shoot up, Like I still in my heart, 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:43.360 in my heart. But but Malcolm, Malcolm was like, straight up, 0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:48.280 I'm gonna shoot you back. So when Chris, I'm very 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.400 I feel like I'm honored. So I felt like the 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.720 minute you threw p M down on stage is like, yes, 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.640 he could teach me and he'll still that's exactly what 0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:03.320 I wanted. That's makes it. So what did he do 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.560 for you to throw him off the stage? I never 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.680 really got that part of the story. Well, if you 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:15.960 want the scholarly approach, approach, Okay, so dude, stop mouthing 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:20.000 off in Details magazine. Okay, now this is now, this 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:23.160 is the mood that we're in around this time. I 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:28.960 think we'll I forgot what year. This was nineties nine? No, no, no, oh, no, 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.560 it was Kay, it's ninety two and it wasn't The 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:37.400 Palladium was like, no, it was a small club in Manhattan. 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.960 I don't remember that. It was one of the clubs 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.040 that have like like car wash was it wasn't. That 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.640 wasn't the name of the place. That's just the name 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:52.840 of the night. The night right, it was it sound fast, 0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.880 so sound factory. Okay, wait a minute, now here's the 0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:01.080 mood of it. Ninety two Okay, around the time, this 0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:05.680 is when, like you said, knowledge was just hitting hip hop. 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.719 Hip hop was some ignorant as ship. Okay. Of course 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.160 you did have run DMC, you had Houdini, you had 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.600 those who were actually rocking on on a supposedly more 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:20.160 intelligent level, especially run DMC with it's like that, and 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.960 and all types of record societies got to salute you 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.439 in the interview. Just do that. You know what I'm saying. 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.840 First of all, you know, that's who the viewer is 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.759 to know someone is drinking of my time and drink. 0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:35.680 If you have traveled, you probably don't know where the 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.879 funking my tie is. Okay, so this is you have. 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.800 This is a Hawaii drink. People like, do you continue 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.600 to drink? That's how you know making money for long? 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:48.000 He wasn't Tahiti or something. I mean, I'm with this ship, yes, yes, yes, 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.440 thank you for thank you for coming again, thanks for 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.560 opening your dog. Okay. So anyway, so anyway, so so 0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.520 the mood and nothing by the but I'm I'm good, 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:07.120 I'm gonna get you later on. Look this this move 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.160 this time is when I had just put out you 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:14.760 must learn to stop the violence movement? Why is that? 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.600 And then what's what's the joint? What's the joint? He 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.440 got out? I don't know why. Why did he let 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.520 well it wasn't just me, but he did say he 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:30.960 tested more. Yes, ok. In his Details magazine he had 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.279 said something pertaining to the fact. He said, n w 0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.840 A is nothing. Chuck d is making mountains out of 0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:41.319 mole hills, and careis one is kiss. One wants to 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:45.000 be a teacher, but a teacher of what? And for 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:49.520 me it matter for me. But Chuck at the time 0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:54.720 was receiving death threats because of the controversy with Griff Griffin, 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.600 the Jewish comments. Griffin made a statement, so public Enemy 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:05.240 was the real heat in America. Okay, and this dude 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.319 just sold like a million records, so he had a 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.080 really good year, you know, selling records. So he's just 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:16.520 mouthing off like it's our time now these with these dudes, 0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.799 and you know these dudes is over. N w A 0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:24.160 ain't nothing, Chuck, the public Enemy ain't saying nothing. Arrest this. 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.360 So I let it go for a minute. So this 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.479 this was like over months. This is like the first 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:32.600 no no, no no, no, this is over a period. And 0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.919 it wasn't just him. So I had also a little 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:40.400 running with X Clan around the same time. Me and 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.319 X Clan, We're going back and forth with I mean, 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:47.040 brother Jay was you know, calling me Captain human and 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:53.000 that's the other well it wasn't that wasn't directed to, 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.479 but it was them. Yeah, and if and if you're 0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:03.160 battling me even maybe it was so there was ex 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:08.359 claim Bam chilled it all out back then, right, so 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.640 he cooled it all out. We had a press conference 0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.960 and just kissed it made up. That was into that. 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:19.000 But there were others dudes in the hood. They for 0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.600 some reason, they felt people felt that if you come 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:27.480 out advocating peace, knowledge, wisdom, I was coming with you 0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.799 that somehow we're supposed to be soft for somehow, well 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:36.080 you're gonna run up or I don't know what it was. 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:41.200 And I was naive because all my dudes was straight gangsters. 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.839 Like I'm talking about, I'm trying to take dudes off 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.279 the street, convince them, yo, we can go on tour. Man, 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.000 you ain't gonna do this. You ain't gonna do that. 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:50.719 And dudes is like, Yo, if you can show me 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.160 another way out of here, we could do this. So 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.600 I'm trying to take these dudes and we're trying to 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.640 leave the hood. Okay, we're trying to be positive. We 0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.600 got to stop the violence this movement and PM and 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:06.720 he is too calm. Yeah, okay, arrestient shot but bahbah 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.160 bahba he just got finished with X clan with that 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.960 um lynch mob had made a statement ice que self destruction, 0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.879 don't pay the fucking or this is after something something, 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:22.160 this is after all, this is what it is stuff 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:29.719 noise for him. You gonna we're gonna stop. And so 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:34.120 for some reason they thought it was so in my 0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.600 corner and so PM doing is not from New York? Correct, No, 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:42.160 what is he? No? I don't know what that was. 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.040 So I want to know what did you say something 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.080 to him or just no, no, no, no happened? No, no, no, 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.319 this is what happened. He so he made his allegation, 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.560 and he made some other allegation on the radio or 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.480 something like that about he was ready to battle or 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.880 something or some kind of lyrical something. So I was like, great, 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.920 let's just take it right there and and leave it there. 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:04.640 You called my name out, What I got to do 0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.080 with you? I'm doing my own thing over here. But 0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:11.200 he was riding a wave that was saying that groups 0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:16.560 like nWay, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, they bullshit, and 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:20.560 we ship right hood dudes is bullshit. This is the 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:24.000 new ship. And so there was a big party for 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.319 Tea Money back in the day's Tea Money was at 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:32.680 your MTV raps host with Ed Love and Doctor big 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:36.719 party in in New York. Everybody in the industry was there, 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.480 which is why we had two chances he was gonna 0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.040 play in somewhere he was he was gonna play with 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.680 his own show. He was gonna even go there, or 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:48.040 we could go right here to Manhattan where it was popping. 0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:51.000 And we said, you know what, let's do Manhattan because 0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:55.040 the industry is there. This is Tea Money's birthday party. 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.120 We said, you know what, let's set it straight real quick. 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.640 Right there. A couple other dudes was in the They 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:04.560 was called your kay arrest, ain't share what the fun that. 0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.479 They went in the crowd too. So when I got there, 0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.480 we were so amp like we was just so and 0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:13.520 when I say we are again. I don't want to 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:17.319 call no names and put nobody on, but you know, 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.480 just the color of the story and give you some 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:23.360 background on it. So it was me, there was justice, 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:29.200 Queen Latifa. Blatifa had her crew, naughty by nature, naughty 0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.120 had they crew because he did naughty? And and them too, 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.239 and them too well, no, no, no, it was just 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.280 they were just there with me. This is the early 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.480 days of flavoring, and this is this is the only 0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:52.719 days early Okay, they all kitty like, yo, when do 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.279 we go? Oh? So you set it up? You know. 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:57.719 Let me just tell you something. I don't know if 0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:01.760 you know that is a trend now when a person 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.279 has a beef with somebody, they booked them for a 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.239 show and then when the person they come out, they'll 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.000 do one or two songs and then the bum rushed 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.640 the ship. But you set that trend. I don't know 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:16.120 if you know that. Well, you know what, I don't 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.160 know if we didn't mean to, but you set the trend. 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:26.000 Let's make them knowing. Look, he so we went up. 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.239 It wasn't a set up in the sense that we 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.200 knew we were gonna go there, but we knew we 0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:35.320 had two choices and it was like the day before, 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.160 so we chose this one. So did you actually talk 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.840 to him prior to no, No, no, you just waited 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.160 for him, just waiting for As a matter of fact, 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.040 the word had gotten out because I said, Yo, I'm 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.520 here the battle. It wasn't about throwing nobody off stage 0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:54.560 because I'm still stop the violence. Yeah, that's why it 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.600 was a controversial. It was so when I jumped up, 0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.960 what happened was I think one of his boys or something. 0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:03.440 He had a little crew with hit me somebody with him. 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.959 So when we jumped on stage, I remember super Cat. 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.920 I can't even man, super Cat. He said, Chris, let 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:10.919 me go on first month. Let me go on first. 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.960 Before you do that, let me one first. I was 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.279 like yo, and Cat went on, he did his thing. 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:18.799 Then p M Down went on. We let him get 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.600 through one song, and then we all jumped on the stage. 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.279 It's like, Yo, let's battle. Let's get it popping right now. 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.960 So the whole crowd was like, oh, let's go. But 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.040 something happened is man, somebody jumped out. It was like 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.400 funk that I was trying to do some ship. It 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.600 was like funk that we would all shoot this my 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.560 naked that threw them nikes off the stage. That's what 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:49.719 he wants that. No, it's not Troy. I just did 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.959 that to I love Mechannon in New York. In New York. 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.839 This is a fact. I love, I love, I love 0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:59.040 mccannon like I love for Troy A. But when it happened, 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:06.719 didn't met about this. Now you are so Immediately when 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.960 I seen it, I said, this is I don't even 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.279 think Troy. I have know that this originated from that 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.920 very moment. Like if you disrespect and you come to 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.239 the person town, you are liable to go off the 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:21.200 stage and drinks is liable to throw at you, and 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.640 you are allowed to feel uncomfortable. You started that trend, 0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.319 and I applaud you for that, sir. Come on one 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:32.080 more time, everybody but Bill. Being that we're on the 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:36.080 topic of self destruction, stop the violence. One thing that 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.919 I've always wondered, why do you think that we haven't 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.480 been able to recreate those movements in hip hop? Because 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.879 when that came out and um, we're on the same 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.080 game came out those records, they were cool to the 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.239 youth at the time. When we love those records, we 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.279 knew the lyrics. I know you've been doing, you've done, 0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.840 You've continued to do those records, but they haven't touched 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.560 the pulse of the youth. Amore. No, hip hop is 0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:03.959 not conscious, Okay, Like people gotta understand that hip hop 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.799 it's raw essence. That ship has gotta ghetto. Hip hop 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:12.560 is ignorant. Okay, that ship is. I'm that and it's core. 0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:16.279 That ship is raw ignorance, man, just straight up. But 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.960 all the best things come out of that ship. Okay, 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.359 the darkness, that's where the best ship comes from. Out 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:26.680 of this ship. Look, it takes feces to make things grow. 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:32.759 All were eating is ship. It's the most honest. So 0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.160 that's why I say go back to the movement when 0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:39.799 we did those records, stop the violence and self destruction. 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.000 Look at the dudes that we're doing them. Those were 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.719 street Okay, that's why, right, But now we all them 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:51.000 dudes got shot up and went to jail. Nobody there's 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:55.840 no one else, like maybe some younger kids today or 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:59.120 maybe some of the younger artists today, if they care 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.279 about they come. You see, when we were coming up 0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:05.560 with gangs and excuse me, a cruise and stuff like that, 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:09.439 we we cared about the community still, like we would 0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.560 still smack a young kid up and be like, Yo, 0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:14.200 you better go to school, motherfucker. I know your mom's 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.720 you know what I'm saying. You would still get gangs 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:21.799 like that. Today it's too individualistic, even due to a 0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.560 real gangsters. They're not really in the hood. They do 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.759 they gangster on the phone. They pushing their thing through 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.200 twitterfferent mediums. Now, we didn't have none of this ship 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.399 and we was coming up. I'm sorry to cut you off, 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:36.360 but you know what the crazy shi it is. I 0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:38.520 just thought about it, like you know hip hop. We 0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:42.399 got our own little version of chipland circuits, like when 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.560 you go so back then in the nineties, I'll say 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:48.759 in nineties, I had to go to Virginia, I had 0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.360 to go to North Carolina. And when the dude told me, 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.680 y'all running the block, I had the choices. It was 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.480 fifteen seconds, not fifteen seconds on the internet, but it's 0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.319 fifteen seconds that I had to say I believe him, 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.879 fucking don't. We didn't have Instagram, like right now, dude, 0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:05.439 be like, you know, I run to the town, check 0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:10.360 my check them. That's don't fucking register with me, but 0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:12.320 you know what I'm saying, because they'll have a picture 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.240 with like you know whoever is the popular popular people 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.880 at the time. But back then, in the nineties, I 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:19.480 had to go to a town and I had to 0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.640 make a decision in fifteen seconds when the dude caught 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.560 me and foot locker and said, your Nori, I run 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.120 the town. Funk with me? And I had to start 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:36.120 with sometimes this guy's lying. They're good, but a lot 0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:40.080 of the times they're official. You don't have time to 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.520 go look at nowadays google them. When I go to 0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.040 a town. Now they'll be like, yo, go get what's 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.440 such and such? And I gotta look at this guy's Instagram. 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:53.400 But it was real up and and your generations before mine. 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.640 So how was that like? Just traveling the US back then? 0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:59.799 You had to know people, man, you had to really know. 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.000 Like what you just said right there brought me back 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:07.960 to like, Okay, tell your story Iced Tea. Okay, this 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:11.799 is way backed Tea coming on the show. Shout out 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:17.760 to Ic and Coco. This goes back to Darlene. Okay, 0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.640 so first, this is first wife on the cover of 0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:29.440 Iced Tea. This is the realest dude ever. Okay, I 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:33.279 don't know what y'all know about TV, and I don't 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.920 know what that ship is. Okay, But in the eighties, 0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:42.600 ryme syndicate in l A. Okay, you had to know 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:46.360 these dudes or you wasn't playing. You say, you couldn't 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.200 even go. You couldn't even play, You couldn't even play. Date. 0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.120 Today you can book shows, you know, live national book 0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.959 is all good. No, back then, it was only dudes 0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.919 were hustling. Did was booking rappers. So it was like 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:05.879 you know, and and and and it wasn't never no ship. 0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.359 It was it was actually the time, we're always having 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:11.400 a good time. It's like we left all the guns, 0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.719 all the all the the product, and she leave that 0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.360 ship down. Let's just go to Latin Corns and have 0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:19.279 a good time. Let's just go down to to you know, 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.400 the rooftop or or whatever fever or whatever. Everybody just 0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:25.239 was like that. Everybody left their ship in the car 0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:28.600 if there was any beef in the cup. You see 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:33.000 dudes running outside today ride and that's the ship would 0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:35.640 pop off in this in the parking lot. But we 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.799 had to know people. You couldn't just be a rap. 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.360 There was so many rappers that were dope on the 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.799 mic and even had hit records. But they couldn't tour. 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.839 They couldn't travel, you know, because back then people were 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.680 still getting robbed for they change just the idea of 0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:53.600 wearing a gold change. Well, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:55.719 I mean, you know, but look, I tell you this 0:49:55.960 --> 0:50:01.600 YouTube and it's for YouTube. It's for YouTube, you know, 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:08.239 MC search um you know, far the third base. These 0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:13.960 were the only white dudes ever ever to walk in 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:19.200 Latin quarters with big Gold, the original last quarters, because 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:24.719 I went to Broadway. The original ladder quarters was Fort 0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.759 Street in Broadway, across the street from Popeye's Chicken. We 0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.680 used to eat that bullshit and go across the street 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:36.400 and tear that ship down. Nothing but hustlers and then nothing. 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:38.759 And if your rhymes was whack, you did not make 0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:43.480 it out like you without insults or sneaking scheming on you, 0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.080 or like you had to have security walk you out 0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:48.200 like you. You know what I'm saying. And I took 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.439 pride in that ship. I was like, fuck y'all, nakeds man, 0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.120 get the ship in right now. And they just loved, 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.520 they loved my whole ship. And the point was was 0:50:57.560 --> 0:50:59.919 that we were spending conscious ship we called the Real 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.680 Kality Rap. Yo. Man, funk these these cops, this court, 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.240 the ship we were going through fun the d A. 0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:10.560 These motherfucker's are corrupt. Let's talk about the government. That 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:14.320 ship became Conscious rap all of a sudden in the nineties, 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.319 the titles switched and now, all of a sudden, we 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:21.320 were supposed to play this role of being conscious rappers 0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:25.239 who didn't fight or argue, and this ship and it 0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:29.600 was like, I never wrested, I'm wrestled. I never settled 0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:33.680 this in my own career. You know me. I consider 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.799 myself a god man, straight up all about peace. But 0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:41.920 this world the minute you say you're standing up for 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:45.759 justice and wisdom, these dudes want to try to see you. 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.360 And I love ship like that. I'm like, I'm God's 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:52.399 like worst. I'm sent here to make you think like, Yo, 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:54.640 that's that we know we can get that dude right there. 0:51:54.680 --> 0:52:02.120 I'm like, and ship changes in the come on, follow 0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.799 me down here and then see the skirt on in 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:09.719 the skirt, come on down here, that's where I want 0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:14.160 to go. Camera. How do you back? How did it 0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:19.040 be start with shan originally? Man? Was it the record 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.640 or was it something on the side. I have to 0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:24.080 notice for my own because you're my favorite rapper. I 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.400 don't know if you know that we wanted to. I 0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:31.000 hated you when you did the Bridges. That's gotta be 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:34.080 clear with you. Let me tell you something. You made 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:38.040 any any killers and Queens, you made them, because I'm 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:43.480 just tell you because you said we didn't. It's a horrible, 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.880 it's a great, it's a great all day because you 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:50.560 know why we had on Rights Island at that time 0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:54.560 was the toughest place. I mean, it was the hard 0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:57.400 chorus place to go. And if you was from Queens, 0:52:57.920 --> 0:52:59.839 you would just walk by and people would be like 0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:02.359 Queens right. And I don't know if you know if 0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:05.399 you started this, but you said I didn't hear peek 0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:09.440 from a place called Queens. And we had to fight 0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:14.520 every each New y'all nicker, every ball snicker for nickers 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:19.319 to be like Queen's nickers is a fish like he 0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:23.640 just took out Shan. Damn, I've rolder that wrong and 0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.640 she sh don't. Don't don't blow me up, listen. I'm 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:31.920 just I'm just being honest. And at that time you 0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:36.759 changed the face of hip hop because you single handedly. 0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:39.560 I don't need to know. How did this start? Was 0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:45.799 it beef with Marley? Was it beef for Shan? Was 0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:52.400 this this wackpool? A sneaker? What was it, Chris? To 0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.880 make you go off like that? First off, we and 0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:59.600 queens didn't know that was a South Bron. We didn't 0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:03.520 know it was a North It was the Bron. So 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:05.520 when all right, so I need to notice this is 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:09.719 from my own history. How did they start? That's the 0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:14.400 wall rest in peace to Mr Magic. Let me start right. 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:17.920 You don't care whether we smoke right now, come on, man, 0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:23.400 come on um recipees to Mr Magic. Okay, straight up, 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:27.960 Now that's who started it. He started it, Magic, Mr Magic? 0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:34.239 Down he rest in peace, Mash we wanted to be 0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.960 down with the Juice Crew. Let's start right there. So 0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:41.720 and this is Molly mar This is Magic, okay, Magic 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:44.520 Magic was here. First of all, there was another Juice 0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:48.799 Crew before Magic, the original Juice Crew. I was first. 0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:50.160 I don't know all of it. I think it was 0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:56.319 Melly Mel. Yeah, this is Juice Crew. This Juice Crew 0:54:56.360 --> 0:54:59.200 had a disco fee and they're the original Juice Crew. 0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:04.080 Magic was part of that crew. Okay, so he kind 0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:08.040 of took the name and the second generation came up, 0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:12.480 which was us and so he named his crew the 0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:15.759 Juice Crew. But he is the only one with the ring. 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:18.640 There was rings was like thirteen rings that were given 0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:20.960 out for this Juice Crew because he was one of this. 0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:23.200 He was one of these views with the ring. So 0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:25.040 he made the think Juice cre with his man fly 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:27.640 tie as well. Ty was was big, you know with 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:32.319 UH promotion and marketing. So the idea was battles were 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.040 huge on the street anyway. If he was an m C, 0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:37.440 he was always battling your man. He was always in 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:40.080 the ciphers fitting ship. So that's what it was. But 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:43.080 none of that was ever reflected in mainstream media and 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:46.920 Wrapped whatever run d m C. They was crushing ship, 0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:51.040 but they were still you know, wrapping um. They were 0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.479 still like performers, you know. They It never was really 0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:58.399 what it was on the street level. So we went 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.280 to Magic. We wanted to be part of the Jewice screen. 0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.480 We wanted to be produced by Molly maul okay. But 0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.759 Magic was the Juice Crew. He's the one that put 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:09.200 everybody down. So Rock Sands Shante just came off of 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:13.439 a battle with U. T. Fo nice battle. All these 0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:18.439 rock sands came out of that battle. Little sister Fast Team. 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:22.840 I went to school, continue rock Sand. She came out 0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:26.440 U t f O nice battle. So mc shan came 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:30.080 out and this LU called him a beat bitter because 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.320 the word on the street was the LL bit his 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:37.680 stop the can go, the didas the pumas and us 0:56:37.719 --> 0:56:39.799 the track suit. And in a way you looked just 0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:42.080 like L from her early days. If you look at 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.680 early LL, it was some kind of similarity. So l 0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:49.279 I was mad about that, I guess and started going out. 0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.759 I'm not L. I'm sorry. Shan was mad at that 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:56.800 and started going after L. L L never answer them, um, 0:56:56.840 --> 0:57:03.359 but I did because Magic took our demo. So the 0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:08.520 story goes, engineer told us this. We handed in our records, 0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:12.320 two records criminal Minded and Elementary, oh and a record 0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:15.320 called Advanced three records. We have got to advance three records. 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.600 We gave it to him. He said, Magic said this 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:20.880 is corny. No, we're not doing it, and supposedly flung 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:25.960 it into into garbage. We're not. This is an engineer 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:28.800 telling us. First of all, we couldn't even talk to Magic. Okay, 0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:33.360 he was not huge. Okay, security, he was the man. Okay, 0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:42.240 we couldn't even see. We handed up. We handed dude 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:45.800 the c D throw somebody through, somebody through somebody, and 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.480 the word got back your wick, get a body here. 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.720 So mind you, I'm homeless in the street. I'm riding 0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:54.320 the train back and forth, the D train. Scott land 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.480 Rock is a social worker at the shelter. I get to, 0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:00.360 you know, sometimes I'm at the shelter. Sometimes I'm not 0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:03.560 me and just Stice was in the shelter together, so 0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:05.680 some NICs we hang out all nights. Some nice we 0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:07.280 get up. But Scott had to go to work every 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:12.120 day and worked there at that shelter. So we got 0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:13.960 back and Scott was like, yo, they said it was 0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:19.680 what my g I was like, Yo, why shan is 0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:25.000 why how my ship? My ship ain't white. So I'm twenty, 0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:29.960 you know what I'm saying. I'm cocky, I'm arrogant. I'm 0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:33.080 already known in the Bronx. I'm a graffiti writer really 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:36.640 named k r Rest and I'm writing on the six 0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:39.280 train and the five, the two and the five. We're 0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:43.160 hitting the bus yards for the rod bus yards. So 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:47.920 I'm already on my ship in the graffiti world, and 0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:53.280 I was, I'm just throwing it out there. I was 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:57.440 on my ship, bomb and busses and trains and we 0:58:57.440 --> 0:58:59.760 were trying to get into the wrap deal, hopefully to 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:02.880 get some money and get out the hood. They said 0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:06.320 you why so I wrote, I was, I wrote the 0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:10.360 Bridges over first, before the South, before the South Bronx. 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:12.760 I wrote the Bridges over because that was more my ship. 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:15.640 And I was on some reggae ship. So I was like, yo, 0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:19.000 I used to listen to shine Head, actually was my inspiration, 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:22.400 shine Hand. I used to listen to shine Hand, Michigan 0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:28.080 and Smiley yellow Man, Lieutenant Stitchy, Major Macro, Nija man On. 0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:31.200 I used to blast all that. So he was like, see, 0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:41.160 what are you doing? Okay, So so it's like, so 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.080 I'm listening to all that. But Scott was like First 0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:47.160 of all, Scott started to get down in his spirit 0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:51.120 because he had already shopped our music to everybody, and 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.360 they all turned us down. They said it was too 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:58.080 educated to preachy. You don't sound like the rappers out here. 0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:01.040 Because we were talking about nuclear a wall, the government. 1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.000 This kind of day was like, na, I wrapped, don't 1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:05.920 need I know about lutle nat because you I'm just 1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:11.120 we want I'm just telling you that anyway. So we 1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:15.360 was like, you know, nobody was gonna sign us. No, 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:17.520 no one wanted us. So I was like, you know what, 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:20.560 fuck it? I wrote the Bridges over. I said it 1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:23.800 to Scott. Scott was like, nah, man, because nobody's gonna 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:26.880 gonna play that reggae ship. Nobody want to hear that ship. 1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:28.880 They want to hear like run DMC and this. So 1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:32.000 you're telling me the Bridges over was wrote before Shan 1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:35.800 actually dropped the bridge. No bridge out, No, the bridge 1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:39.200 was out, and I wrote the Bridges over. So now 1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:41.040 let me just tell you this is where you also 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:47.400 crushed my dreams as a child. Fair hip hop started out. 1:00:48.800 --> 1:00:53.160 I thought he was telling I'm a child, all right. 1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:57.480 I bought the nineties seventy seven right, what what year 1:00:58.080 --> 1:01:01.800 did shann drop that record? That was like eighty six 1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:06.840 eighty six? So technically how old am I? Nine? Ten? 1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:12.760 Nine years old? Nine? So I believe as a nine 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:15.880 year old, but I don't. I've never been at But wait, 1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:19.840 here's the real of it. We both were wrong. Okay, 1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:24.000 wait wait me and you ll meet you. And okay, 1:01:24.800 --> 1:01:28.360 he said, you love to hear the story again and 1:01:28.400 --> 1:01:32.640 again how it all got started way back when the 1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:36.080 monument is right in your face, sitting and listening for 1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:40.240 a while to the name of the place, the bridge. Okay, 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:43.760 that caused the battle, that's what because you knew hip 1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:50.600 hop originating. I was going watching BAM right, so now 1:01:50.880 --> 1:01:54.600 we as as as as as we go. So it 1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:57.440 was that line that made you that's it. Well, no, 1:01:57.680 --> 1:02:00.800 it's Magic, said we was garbage. It made his fury 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:03.520 combined with that line, Well, that line was the excuse. 1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:08.000 But Magic wasn't from Queen's Bridge. No, magic is from Magic. 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:14.240 He's from Brooklyn. No. But but you hear this record 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:18.720 and why Well, first of all, Magic just dissed us 1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:20.880 and and basically was hopping on the fact that his 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:23.600 number one MC was this dude right here, mc shan. 1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:27.680 So being from the Bronx, hungry broke poor with nothing, 1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:31.200 we said, you know what, that's food right there. Let's 1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:34.880 go get him. This is crazy and so food right, 1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:37.360 We said, yo, we wrote up. I wrote the bridges 1:02:37.400 --> 1:02:40.080 over first. Scott didn't like it, said, no, nobody's listening 1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:42.720 to reggae ship If you really want to go at dude, 1:02:42.760 --> 1:02:46.320 come with some ship. So the original bridges Over was 1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:50.320 a reggae Yeah, okay, it was super Cat books boom 1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:54.840 boom boom boom boo boom boom the super Cat for 1:02:54.920 --> 1:02:57.439 that right, super Cat literal left right for a little while. 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.200 That was I was all in the super Cat right there. 1:03:01.200 --> 1:03:04.080 And he had a record called said Bop standing going up, 1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:06.880 hug him up. He said, boo standing in the boom 1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:10.320 boom boom boo boom boom boom boom boo boo boo boom. 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:13.240 I was like, yes, put that to some boom back 1:03:13.400 --> 1:03:15.720 the same ship we used to do in the in 1:03:15.760 --> 1:03:17.800 the in the shelter, we used to hit the bathroom. 1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:21.280 He didn't like that. So then what happened? You went back? 1:03:21.560 --> 1:03:24.160 He put on this record that goes, hey bro, I 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:31.960 got that good cheap achiever boom boom, Hey bro, I 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:33.800 got that good chiep a chief. You have to keep 1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:36.440 cutting that far out. So Scott's cutting that ship. And 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:38.160 I was like, way back in the days when the 1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:42.800 hip hop began with Coke Lrock, Cool HRC and Damn Bamn. 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:46.040 He was the Scott was like, oh yo, you need 1:03:46.080 --> 1:03:49.800 to come with that next like three days later he 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:52.840 got his check. We went to the studio. It was 1:03:52.920 --> 1:03:57.640 fifty dollars an hour and you get an ascetake at 1:03:57.640 --> 1:03:59.920 the ends. It was a bargain like the ascetake was 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:04.080 only five hours, but they said and the acid take 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:07.960 two hour minimum. We spent fifty dollars. We made a 1:04:07.960 --> 1:04:11.360 four track. We did South Bronx and the ps Free 1:04:11.720 --> 1:04:14.760 the same day, two hours on the bridges of Us. 1:04:15.440 --> 1:04:18.640 South Bronx and the p is Free, the original with 1:04:18.720 --> 1:04:27.720 d knights from the beat and we got du plate out. 1:04:28.280 --> 1:04:33.640 So we took that down to Latin Quarters and Raoul 1:04:33.880 --> 1:04:36.240 was playing Red Alert wasn't even on yet. It's a 1:04:36.280 --> 1:04:41.760 dude named Raoul. That is sidebar on, all right, was 1:04:41.800 --> 1:04:45.120 my homie. Shout out to sidebar, shout out to sidebar. 1:04:45.800 --> 1:04:50.880 What's the older people? As I said me, And because 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:54.520 I stopped, no, no, no no, because I just figured 1:04:54.640 --> 1:04:57.840 Raoul so continue this story. We gave him. We gave 1:04:57.880 --> 1:05:00.440 him asta take, We gave him the dump player. He 1:05:00.520 --> 1:05:05.320 put the ship on. From the second that ship came 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:07.920 on bridges own No, the South Bronx on the south 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:13.600 it said Queen's after Queen's But queens Wich is a 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:16.640 huge hit record should play on the radio every day. 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:21.960 Throw the ship on the club, dudes. We were very 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:25.480 proud of how long do we have? How long do 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:29.000 we have? How long Queen's were we? It was about 1:05:29.040 --> 1:05:30.640 a month, It was about a month. We only had 1:05:30.640 --> 1:05:40.000 a month, maybe two months, maybe two months. We had 1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:44.840 six months. No right to give us two months even 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:46.840 if it was like two months was on the radio, 1:05:47.360 --> 1:05:49.040 it was like one month. The ship was he was 1:05:49.080 --> 1:05:52.880 in the club already, and then and then he came back. No, 1:05:53.080 --> 1:05:56.520 then Shan came back. No, no, no, no, no, let's 1:05:56.520 --> 1:06:00.600 not skip okay, So we only had a month where 1:06:00.720 --> 1:06:05.280 it was okay to be from Queensbridge, left Franck Projects 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:07.920 and then no, wait a minute, rephrase the question. No, 1:06:08.120 --> 1:06:10.880 you guys had like three you had like three or 1:06:10.880 --> 1:06:15.360 four years. Because when ce when when run DMC came 1:06:15.360 --> 1:06:18.840 out and l L and that shant it was cool 1:06:18.840 --> 1:06:20.960 with them. I'm cool with all of that. So why 1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:26.320 did you ship? Wait a minute, No, lyrically, I wasn't lyrically, 1:06:26.440 --> 1:06:29.800 I wasn't see this was the time. This was a 1:06:29.840 --> 1:06:33.640 time where you had to prove run, d m C said, 1:06:33.640 --> 1:06:37.440 amazing lyric I think it was d m C he said, 1:06:37.480 --> 1:06:42.280 other rappers can't stand us, but give us respect. That 1:06:42.600 --> 1:06:46.640 sums up the whole eighties with do you feel like 1:06:46.880 --> 1:06:49.320 DMC was like a pop group to you back? No, no, no, 1:06:49.360 --> 1:06:51.440 it was nothing pop about run DMC. No, I don't know. 1:06:51.800 --> 1:06:59.160 This was straight hood okay, jam Master Jay okay, okay, okay. 1:06:59.440 --> 1:07:04.000 Jane was hood hood okay Okay. Now Run and d 1:07:04.200 --> 1:07:06.680 they were straighthood as well. They came from different other 1:07:06.720 --> 1:07:11.840 parts of Queens, but Queens the whole of Queen's good okay. 1:07:11.960 --> 1:07:16.360 So it was like Run to MC was just kings 1:07:16.440 --> 1:07:20.000 like they would just say and and you always took 1:07:20.040 --> 1:07:23.440 a shot at those who was on the top if 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:26.000 you was the little guy on the bottom. That that 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:28.080 that's what it was. It was like even um Rox 1:07:28.160 --> 1:07:31.520 and Shante had a line where I met Running, I 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:35.200 met d m C and I said so and it 1:07:35.320 --> 1:07:37.440 was like one of her dopest like one of her lines, 1:07:37.440 --> 1:07:39.720 and she had put it. But that was the attitude 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:42.760 like you ain't large, you you ain't you know even 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:46.080 though you are, and you demand But let me ask 1:07:46.120 --> 1:07:49.200 you this question. When he said hip hop started out 1:07:49.200 --> 1:07:53.840 in the dog was was that something that directly bothered 1:07:53.880 --> 1:07:57.160 you because you knew the truth scholarly, yes, but I 1:07:57.200 --> 1:07:59.320 didn't know the truth. I thought I knew the truth. 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:03.680 So this is young arrogance. I'm hanging out in the Bronx, 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:07.800 North Bronx, South Bronx, East West Bronx. I'm the whole Bronx, 1:08:07.880 --> 1:08:12.600 Gunhill Road to Milborough Projects. Okay, whole Bronx. First time, 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:16.599 I'm a graph writer, So I walked the entire Bronx. 1:08:16.760 --> 1:08:22.200 My maid is okay, I'm the whole Bronx. Okay, So 1:08:22.360 --> 1:08:26.639 I'm running in the party's dudes, you know we know ship. 1:08:27.040 --> 1:08:30.439 You didn't hear, and I didn't hear. No, we did. 1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:33.120 We used to go to Queen's. Queen's had the dopest party. 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:35.800 But so you did hear Pete? No do alright, come on, 1:08:38.960 --> 1:08:44.320 come on up man Queens. No see what it was? No, no, 1:08:44.439 --> 1:08:47.320 let me childhood store. Let me say this. Let me 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:51.400 say this. My wife is from Queens, okay, s Queens. 1:08:51.840 --> 1:08:55.599 No no, no, no no, no, that's the queen right Jasmine 1:08:55.600 --> 1:09:00.320 in the village in Queens, Queens. I'm gonna pick you up. Sorry, 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:03.720 pigau me a wife. He's looking for I'm looking for 1:09:03.760 --> 1:09:06.760 my Queen's st orbans. See this is what I'm talking about. Man, 1:09:06.880 --> 1:09:11.240 Niggas don't respect this part the nigga no matter a woman. 1:09:13.600 --> 1:09:17.000 Let's leave this. Listen. On the island, people used to 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:20.800 be like queens, like you started something. So niggas from 1:09:20.880 --> 1:09:25.360 queens at that time on the island spit out razors 1:09:25.840 --> 1:09:29.040 and buck fifties. You might have originated buck fifties. I 1:09:29.080 --> 1:09:31.080 don't know if you knew that. I don't know if 1:09:31.120 --> 1:09:37.519 you knew that. But because queens, he's like everything murder, 1:09:37.880 --> 1:09:39.760 I do, I do mask. You don't care? This is? 1:09:39.960 --> 1:09:42.760 This is he's like my father, Like I mean, like, 1:09:43.000 --> 1:09:45.439 ain't you blame your father for everything? Don't we all? Yeah? 1:09:45.479 --> 1:09:49.559 Don't we all? Yeah? Don't we all? So? Um? All right, 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:53.080 So when you heard hip hop started out an adult 1:09:53.120 --> 1:09:55.720 and you knew that, you knew that it didn't know. 1:09:55.880 --> 1:09:58.400 I knew Cool herd existed, I knew Bama, knew flies 1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:01.200 she exists that I didn't know them, but their names 1:10:01.240 --> 1:10:05.040 were in the hood crazy, So you knew she was fronting? Yeah, basically, 1:10:05.040 --> 1:10:07.120 well I knew he didn't know. I don't even know 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:14.840 if he was fronting. It's just that because and he 1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:19.400 wrote about what he saw from his perspective, and so 1:10:19.520 --> 1:10:22.240 I went out to record South Bronx and and today 1:10:22.320 --> 1:10:25.400 it's to be scholarly correct hip hop starting the West Bronx. 1:10:26.000 --> 1:10:28.120 It never started the South Bronx. That was my next 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:33.880 question ahead, this is the West Bronx, Coolheart Avenue, the Bronx. Okay, 1:10:33.960 --> 1:10:38.559 that's West Bronx. But we were so ghetto ignorant and 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:43.000 gas to get on the record. We South Bronx, South 1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:46.040 South Bronx. Because that was one of my other history 1:10:46.080 --> 1:10:48.680 books was were people from the other part of the 1:10:48.720 --> 1:10:52.360 Bronx when they still chair Oh yeah, everybody North Bronx, 1:10:52.360 --> 1:10:54.599 East West was all from the South. Because even now, 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:57.559 like when Biggie you hear you yeah, Biggie, or you 1:10:57.640 --> 1:11:01.000 hear um nah, somebody's out out the Bronx, they never 1:11:01.080 --> 1:11:03.120 say the Bronx. They say the South Bronx. And I 1:11:03.160 --> 1:11:06.080 always wondered when people from the other side, well they 1:11:06.160 --> 1:11:08.640 offended by that, Like it's just like Biggie shout it 1:11:08.680 --> 1:11:12.519 out on one record when God bless her dead. Obviously 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:14.639 when Big was alive, he was like, yo, I shouted 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:16.880 out Queen's Bridge, and I was like, I'm from Left Fract, 1:11:17.520 --> 1:11:20.360 Like I don't really get that, like, you're not shouting 1:11:20.360 --> 1:11:23.719 out the whole Queens when you shout out Queen's Bridge. 1:11:23.800 --> 1:11:26.599 Queen's Bridge is a ninety six building that you come 1:11:26.600 --> 1:11:30.519 over Manhattan, and that's just that section for people that's 1:11:30.640 --> 1:11:33.960 right next door to it. Ravers would a story of 1:11:34.640 --> 1:11:38.080 they don't recognize Queen's Bridge. We understand what you mean 1:11:38.760 --> 1:11:41.120 by shout out Queen's Bridge and thinking it's the whole 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:43.720 Queen's but it's really not. So I always wanted it 1:11:43.840 --> 1:11:47.000 was that the opposite when you said South Bronx, um 1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:49.760 was people in the West Bronx. The Bronx took it 1:11:49.800 --> 1:11:54.120 differently because the Bronx wasn't on the map. Brooklyn was 1:11:54.240 --> 1:11:56.040 on the map. The Brooklyn is still on the map. 1:11:57.360 --> 1:12:00.439 Rules you could be in dues off journey. You say 1:12:00.760 --> 1:12:07.920 broken in the house, what the fly was? Okay, there 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:10.919 was nobody was. There was a record called Go Brooklyn. 1:12:10.920 --> 1:12:17.880 I think that's the Sonic Mighty Mike Master somebody go Brooklyn, Brooklyn. 1:12:18.479 --> 1:12:20.960 That was it. That that was the club anthem. That's 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:22.559 what we did. That's what it was. So when I 1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:24.600 came to South Bronk, yeah, that's what I want to 1:12:24.600 --> 1:12:27.800 go that's where the Bronx was on the map. And 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:31.640 then I mentioned dudes that were heavy in the Bronx, 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:36.760 you know, Nine Lives Crew, Cypress Boys, Real Rock. So 1:12:36.800 --> 1:12:39.719 what you're telling me is after you dropped the South Bronx, 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:44.160 shan drop kill that noise, that's what made you drop 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:49.960 Bridges Over. Yes, this is terrible. No. Never, First of all, 1:12:49.960 --> 1:12:53.320 I would have been over. It was horrible. This is terrible. Actually, 1:12:53.360 --> 1:12:56.280 you know what no let me tell you. When kill 1:12:56.320 --> 1:12:59.000 that noise came out, it was a hit. Was it 1:12:59.439 --> 1:13:01.920 was a hit. First of all. That be think of 1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:07.000 the Casey Sunshine band beat done. That was crazy. Think 1:13:07.080 --> 1:13:11.040 he even used it again. He used it the doo 1:13:11.160 --> 1:13:16.560 don't jun jun juno, don't don't don't don't, don't don't 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:20.680 come that that that that was the case. When he 1:13:20.840 --> 1:13:22.920 knew that on it was hot. It was like, oh 1:13:23.160 --> 1:13:27.280 he came back. It wasn't It wasn't whacked until the 1:13:27.360 --> 1:13:32.679 Bridges Over came out. Marst Off, you're hurting my feelings. 1:13:32.760 --> 1:13:35.320 But I need to know how this happened. I need 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:39.479 to know, like we all, because you're my favorite artist 1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:44.200 at the time. I'm a child, and you you broke 1:13:44.320 --> 1:13:54.200 my dreams like ruined ship with the murder people all around. 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:58.719 The boy my whole life as good as it's because 1:13:59.280 --> 1:14:05.840 he's my god. You so how did this session? How 1:14:05.880 --> 1:14:08.880 did how did how did this? Because you said you 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:13.240 originally recorded original version it was a reggae b no, no, no, 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:16.160 I never recorded it, just I just said it in 1:14:16.360 --> 1:14:21.080 Scott's living room. He said, nah, wow, So you did 1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:23.120 the South Bronx. So did the South Bronx and the 1:14:23.640 --> 1:14:26.560 noise came out and did Now Scott got on the 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:30.120 reggae when he heard the ps free when I did 1:14:30.200 --> 1:14:32.920 South Bronx and then the ps free on the other side. 1:14:33.760 --> 1:14:39.000 You know, um, when we used to do that in 1:14:39.080 --> 1:14:43.320 the club, that was the rock that that was the record. 1:14:43.360 --> 1:14:45.760 So Scott was like, what's up this reggae? Like what? 1:14:46.080 --> 1:14:48.840 He started getting on it. Now he was on it. 1:14:49.360 --> 1:14:52.360 But then Shan answered, us would kill that noise if 1:14:52.400 --> 1:14:55.120 you knew what I knew, you'd kill that noise. And 1:14:55.200 --> 1:14:59.360 the record was hot for it's time, and so we 1:14:59.560 --> 1:15:01.639 was like, you know what, we got this joint right here, 1:15:01.920 --> 1:15:05.080 and Scott didn't even was already recorded. No, it was 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:08.080 all my record. Scott never recorded the bridges over he 1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:10.920 never even well. He came for the mix of the 1:15:11.040 --> 1:15:15.160 second one. But when when um, when Shan put out 1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:19.479 his record, I went back to said Gee from Ultra Magnetic, 1:15:19.560 --> 1:15:23.719 who who who was doing our beats? And he said, 1:15:24.160 --> 1:15:26.840 actually was sampling? He he was, He had the SP twelve. 1:15:27.520 --> 1:15:30.439 So I asked him, Yo, give me some drums. I'm 1:15:30.439 --> 1:15:33.880 gonna go in the studio up the block from Latin Quarters. 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:37.000 I found some little rinky think studio like two blocks 1:15:37.120 --> 1:15:39.760 up and I said, Yo, Shan came out with this joint. 1:15:39.800 --> 1:15:43.280 I'm coming back. Went in there and I produced the 1:15:43.360 --> 1:15:47.679 whole records. I took said Gee's drums. Boom boom back back, 1:15:47.960 --> 1:15:51.640 boom back, boom boom back. That's the same beat we 1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:55.200 did on the bathroom wall and the shelter boom boom 1:15:55.280 --> 1:15:58.360 back back boom back. When and dudes just get it in. 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:01.000 That was just the standard beat. So we did that. 1:16:01.280 --> 1:16:03.760 Put the super cat to it. Boom boom, boom blah 1:16:03.760 --> 1:16:06.840 boom bom. I played the piano one take one time 1:16:07.200 --> 1:16:11.000 you listen to the instrumental. That's the sloppiest playing ever. 1:16:11.200 --> 1:16:14.960 As errors mistakes, all types of shipping. But no one 1:16:15.040 --> 1:16:18.240 heard all that. Put my lyric down the Bridge is over. 1:16:18.320 --> 1:16:22.120 I did that ship strictly for Brooklyn, straight up Bronx, 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:25.880 South Bronx. That was straight up Gunhill Road, straight up 1:16:26.000 --> 1:16:30.559 west Chester, Jamrong, Grand Concuse, that was straight that this one. 1:16:30.920 --> 1:16:33.400 We said, Yo, this is what Brooklyn is on right now, 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:38.000 and nobody knows it. Nobody. Nobody goes to the jams like, well, 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:40.760 actually what it's called the don side. The Dan's all. 1:16:41.200 --> 1:16:43.120 They don't go to that. We'd be it. We was 1:16:43.479 --> 1:16:47.760 in there with Stone Love and GT International and all 1:16:47.840 --> 1:16:50.519 of that. So when he was talking about battle and 1:16:50.600 --> 1:16:52.479 he was like, Yo, we're gonna battle the way they 1:16:52.600 --> 1:16:56.479 do in Jamaica. We're gonna spin the record back this up, 1:16:57.000 --> 1:17:00.920 gun shot we go and America's never hurt. They was like, 1:17:01.080 --> 1:17:04.559 what the fuck? The bridge is over? What did I buy? 1:17:04.760 --> 1:17:06.600 They didn't know what the fun that hurt? It was 1:17:06.720 --> 1:17:11.599 like it was that's what it was called sound. I'm 1:17:11.640 --> 1:17:13.960 not even from the Bridge, I'm just from Queens, but 1:17:14.040 --> 1:17:17.240 it still hurts. Scary. I'm gonna take a moment of silide. 1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:22.679 Take that moment, let's drink. So let's drink that chance 1:17:23.120 --> 1:17:29.639 sent opcially fund it out. So why did why did 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:34.640 you even respond to sharing this Shan Shannon? Listen, let 1:17:34.680 --> 1:17:37.680 me just say, Shannon still a godfather, no doubt of 1:17:37.920 --> 1:17:42.720 Queen's Bridge of Queens, He's still a forefather. But this time, 1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:47.240 why did you respond, like Shan is the reason k 1:17:47.439 --> 1:17:52.160 arrest one has a career. Damn okay, this is to 1:17:52.280 --> 1:17:56.519 make some noise for that man. For second, in my opinion, 1:17:57.000 --> 1:18:00.680 the greatest battle on record, no doubt on record. To me, 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:04.200 it was the greatest battle because it affected like it 1:18:04.360 --> 1:18:06.320 changed people with lives. Like right now, when I see 1:18:06.320 --> 1:18:09.040 people battle, they don't change people's lives. We just laugh 1:18:09.120 --> 1:18:12.680 at them. And you know, but this like Queens had 1:18:12.720 --> 1:18:15.880 to prove ourselves, like we had to like you know 1:18:15.920 --> 1:18:19.120 what I mean, like South Bronx was was was was 1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:21.679 the position where you had to dig out the rubble. 1:18:24.200 --> 1:18:27.559 I got the outside. It's gonna go away where he said, 1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:30.599 It's like Brooklyn has always been recognized. I can remember 1:18:30.680 --> 1:18:33.600 back and uh nineties seven. I used to go to 1:18:33.680 --> 1:18:37.000 Atlanta and be like, yo is Atlanta in the house 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:41.439 and nobody from Atlanta what never you know say anything? 1:18:41.600 --> 1:18:44.000 And when I said New York in the house, people 1:18:44.080 --> 1:18:46.280 go crazy. And I would saying Brooklyn and were always 1:18:46.360 --> 1:18:50.479 my first choice Brooklyn and and these people won't go crazy. 1:18:51.160 --> 1:18:53.439 I'll see him. I would see him backstage. And but 1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:57.080 like you from Brooklyn, we're at that. But like Queens Boulevard, 1:18:58.800 --> 1:19:02.800 this motherfucker's a line and motherfucker. But you changed the 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:13.320 game from that. And so Shan responded to recently, Yeah, 1:19:14.200 --> 1:19:17.320 why did he started? You started? He started it? Yeah? 1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:20.800 He just he did an interview. No no, no, no 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:25.200 he didn't. Well wait he didn't do a record, No 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:29.160 he did, he did, um he did. Uh wait wait, 1:19:29.439 --> 1:19:32.760 let me go back, just for the record. I was 1:19:32.800 --> 1:19:37.720 battling some other two in Pittsburgh recently. Yeah, maybe a 1:19:38.400 --> 1:19:48.240 three months up like Hill Chris, I would have got 1:19:48.880 --> 1:19:51.160 I mean, having eggs and bread in my fucking hand 1:19:51.240 --> 1:19:57.160 and ship on. But I give the young kids a 1:19:57.280 --> 1:20:00.280 run for their money. Man still got it. They got 1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:04.679 to test somebody. The young shooters got a little somebody. 1:20:06.080 --> 1:20:08.360 The young kids don't know my history. So don't tell him. 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:13.080 Don't tell him because he spank that. But but they 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:15.160 but but but the point is is that I was 1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:17.280 bounding some other someth dude jumped on stage. He was 1:20:17.360 --> 1:20:20.200 this and he was dressed like L holding l L's 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:25.040 album album, and I was freestyling. I said some waxh 1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:28.200 it about l L. I apologized for that because l 1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:31.680 L is up here. You know, he's even before me. 1:20:32.080 --> 1:20:35.200 You know what I'm saying. There's no disrespect there. But 1:20:35.360 --> 1:20:37.880 I was battling, and the battle is for moment. He 1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:39.800 was like spurt. He held up l L's album. I 1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:42.160 was like, are you telling me some kids just jumped 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:47.200 on stage? Yeah? Yeah, well just just jumped. So I 1:20:47.240 --> 1:20:50.080 gave him a shot. Why what you got? He spent 1:20:50.200 --> 1:20:53.240 his ship. It was corny, and so I started going 1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:57.880 away this Pittsburgh, Okay, you did say that. So in 1:20:58.040 --> 1:21:01.639 that he put up Sham this album and I said, 1:21:01.720 --> 1:21:04.799 we took Shan out already. What's your old this problem 1:21:04.880 --> 1:21:09.559 up for? Shann heard that and said, fucking man, Yeah, 1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:13.000 he never took me out this, that the other. Do 1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:17.200 you agree with his theory? His theory is that, yeah, 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:19.280 should have been in front of each other like how 1:21:19.360 --> 1:21:23.360 the Battle Rappers do. Now do you agree with that theory? Yeah? 1:21:23.920 --> 1:21:28.479 He just never showed up. Dude. It's thirty years. It's 1:21:28.560 --> 1:21:31.880 thirty years the festival. I've been all up and down 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:43.000 Queens okay in Queen's Friend, there's no excuse outdoor festivals, 1:21:43.040 --> 1:21:46.960 come on Summon Champ thirty years and now he wants 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:49.880 to do it face to face. That would be the 1:21:50.120 --> 1:21:51.760 end of his ship. If you ever want to see 1:21:51.800 --> 1:21:55.760 him all that should will be destructive. I don't know 1:21:55.880 --> 1:21:59.320 what he's asking for, but you know, I eat off 1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:02.200 this ship, man, I this is my ship right here. 1:22:02.360 --> 1:22:06.080 You know, still have it in you? Like you right, 1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:15.040 I'm gonna shoot somebody. So you really were in the 1:22:15.120 --> 1:22:18.920 studio and recorded a new Well he came out with 1:22:19.160 --> 1:22:22.240 something he did. He did an interview and he said 1:22:22.280 --> 1:22:24.800 some rhymes on the interview that he's coming at me 1:22:25.640 --> 1:22:27.960 so well from you don't just say that's like pulling 1:22:28.000 --> 1:22:30.880 your gun and not shoot, like what you're gonna pull 1:22:30.920 --> 1:22:33.680 your ship out? I'm blasting you. That's sad, That's I'm 1:22:33.760 --> 1:22:36.600 not what that's the end of. So he said his 1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:39.320 little piece, So put a piece out. So what did 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:42.479 he exactly say? He like, I'm freestyle a cappella. Yeah, 1:22:42.600 --> 1:22:44.599 but it sounds like it was written though it had 1:22:44.680 --> 1:22:46.840 no heart to it, like a real freestyle. He was 1:22:46.920 --> 1:22:50.240 reading some ship and he read some ship off and 1:22:51.880 --> 1:22:54.200 and I just so fu Yeah, I'm going to Atlanta. 1:22:54.960 --> 1:22:58.360 I'm going to Atlanta. That's what, dude? Is that? That's what? Yeah, 1:22:58.439 --> 1:23:03.000 Shan working, sham working a place called Club Babes in Atlanta. Okay, 1:23:03.040 --> 1:23:06.240 I'm going there. Okay, that's why I don't know what 1:23:06.360 --> 1:23:12.160 I just started. Come on, you want to see it. 1:23:12.240 --> 1:23:16.439 Let's get it popping so you will be willing drink champs. 1:23:16.479 --> 1:23:18.760 I think this is an opportunity for us, right, No, no, no, no, 1:23:19.240 --> 1:23:21.360 I don't want it to do with this battle. I 1:23:21.479 --> 1:23:27.080 just want to see it online. Queens, man, I don't 1:23:27.120 --> 1:23:30.680 really want to see this battle, can you? Is there 1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:35.600 anyway we can chill you out or no? Not? What? What? 1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:38.280 What did they say that ignited you to want to go? 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:41.519 It's not what it's being said. It's so it's the 1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:47.160 audacity to even think that, after thirty years you you 1:23:47.439 --> 1:23:51.240 got something for me. You are crazy. You obviously want 1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:54.280 more hits on your ship or whatever it is. Let 1:23:54.360 --> 1:23:55.840 me give them to you, Let me give it to you. 1:23:56.280 --> 1:23:58.040 Let let me blick you up. Because again, let me 1:23:58.080 --> 1:24:01.639 also say this, if Shan never answered me, I would 1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:05.720 not have a career. Okay from the South, bron from 1:24:05.760 --> 1:24:08.920 the South, Bronx. Okay, that record could have been one hit, 1:24:09.320 --> 1:24:11.280 Like if South Broncy came out, we would have had 1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:17.240 one hit. Okay, we had no other shot. Shannon answered, 1:24:17.280 --> 1:24:19.439 would kill that noise, and then he never He didn't 1:24:19.479 --> 1:24:22.479 have to. So we came back with the Bridges over 1:24:22.520 --> 1:24:24.000 and that's when we was able to follow up with 1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:27.400 Criminal Minded. We had four songs on the market. Now, 1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:29.960 Shannon is the reason I exist, or the least I 1:24:30.120 --> 1:24:34.640 could do. His bust his ask, that's the least I 1:24:34.840 --> 1:24:37.040 can do. You know what I'm saying, Show him that 1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:41.360 and hopefully I said, Yo, somebody should write for Chancey. 1:24:41.479 --> 1:24:46.280 Back to your first question, back to the first ones. 1:24:46.600 --> 1:24:49.640 I see if someone wrote for Shan, I would not 1:24:49.840 --> 1:24:53.960 be mad at all. Fuck that man saved that nigga man. Please, 1:24:54.479 --> 1:24:56.479 so you kept saying to him, you told you told 1:24:56.560 --> 1:25:02.360 him his name is Nah spelled backwards your father. It's 1:25:02.400 --> 1:25:05.120 the opposite, yo, Yo, Let me pick up my nigga 1:25:05.200 --> 1:25:14.200 nos real quickly, because you said, look at the Queen's 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:18.560 Bridge was done until Ill Mattic came out. Okay, just 1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:22.439 for the history, Okay, Queensbridge was criminal Minded? Was was 1:25:22.560 --> 1:25:26.200 the ship on that ship? That was it? Okay, I 1:25:26.320 --> 1:25:31.599 think Illmatic was better than Criminal Minded. That's my opinion. 1:25:32.600 --> 1:25:37.400 Um um. Me being a queen's kid, I can't understand 1:25:37.400 --> 1:25:40.599 where you're coming from. But me living in that era, 1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:45.080 I gotta say criminal Minded. If it wasn't a criminal Minded, 1:25:45.160 --> 1:25:47.479 it wouldn't be a matter. We could say that, no doubt, 1:25:47.560 --> 1:25:49.720 no doubt. We could say that, so we can say 1:25:49.760 --> 1:25:51.400 I'm a real hip hop ki. No no no no 1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:57.640 no we tried no no no no no no. You 1:25:58.160 --> 1:26:01.160 real with it. You influenced eyes too. But you know what, 1:26:01.360 --> 1:26:03.760 you know what you are starting right now. Whoever is 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:06.519 listening to us right now, go and listen to both 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:09.240 albums right now, back to back, back to back. Listen 1:26:09.280 --> 1:26:12.320 to the whole Criminal Minded, and listen to the whole Illmatic. 1:26:12.479 --> 1:26:17.240 I did that this morning. That's the creaz Listen. Listen, listen. 1:26:17.320 --> 1:26:20.360 You know that's Criminal Mind is one of my favorite albums. 1:26:20.400 --> 1:26:22.640 I just it's two records. I can't really listen to it, 1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:27.960 but I listened to them. But this morning I just 1:26:28.120 --> 1:26:29.760 woke up and I was like, I wanted to listen 1:26:29.840 --> 1:26:33.120 to Illmatic. I don't know why, and I just listened 1:26:33.120 --> 1:26:36.080 to it. And then I listen to criminal another mind 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:40.439 if you want to switch the champagne you know so, 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:43.360 um so I understand what you're saying. But me living 1:26:43.400 --> 1:26:46.280 in that era, that's um. I can one hundred since 1:26:46.360 --> 1:26:48.960 tell you nas what answer the question the same way. 1:26:49.160 --> 1:26:51.080 He'll be like, if it wasn't for a criminal minded, 1:26:51.439 --> 1:26:53.760 he wouldn't know because you made us step our game up. 1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:56.519 You know what, but that game, but that game got 1:26:56.600 --> 1:26:59.640 stepped up to the point where hip hop changed. But 1:27:00.040 --> 1:27:01.880 change hip hop too, just in case, because you don't 1:27:01.880 --> 1:27:05.320 know you and you humble, but you changed hip hop. 1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:08.280 You You was the first person you was. You was 1:27:08.360 --> 1:27:11.800 our Malcolm X. Let me break that down to you. 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:15.519 It is because hip hop had took up like the 1:27:15.640 --> 1:27:22.200 p M Dawns, and it took up Hey, we're cool approach, 1:27:22.640 --> 1:27:25.679 but we wanted to keep that attitude. But we also 1:27:25.760 --> 1:27:28.840 wanted to learn something and that's the position you fulfilled. 1:27:29.160 --> 1:27:31.719 That's why, that's why your your name as a teacher 1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:35.840 would never be testing at all. No one could ever 1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:39.280 say he's not a teacher because you taught us the 1:27:39.400 --> 1:27:43.000 woof Tangs, the mob deeps, the Bona Noriega's the Nazis. 1:27:43.600 --> 1:27:46.479 So I can't agree with your statement. I know your 1:27:46.520 --> 1:27:49.560 statement is humble, saying that all Maddock is better, but 1:27:49.960 --> 1:27:53.760 I think it is beat for beat. No, but that's not. 1:27:56.320 --> 1:28:00.439 But that's not how history happened. Because how history happens 1:28:00.560 --> 1:28:03.720 is they say, you know this happened in order for this. 1:28:04.840 --> 1:28:07.080 I hear that. So that wait, when I was coming 1:28:07.080 --> 1:28:10.360 from a different perspective. We're talking about respect. We talk 1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:13.600 about yeah, you're a great guy, a great guy. We 1:28:13.800 --> 1:28:17.439 understand when you're wait, wait get it. How else was 1:28:17.560 --> 1:28:23.200 Queen's been supposed to come back? But now nothing out? Now, 1:28:23.360 --> 1:28:26.439 let's answer Shan's question. Because I listened to the interview. 1:28:27.360 --> 1:28:32.200 Shan is also a guard to me. He said that 1:28:32.960 --> 1:28:36.040 Molly told him not to respond. What do you think 1:28:36.080 --> 1:28:41.280 of that? That's pussy, That's that's pussy. It was right 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:46.519 for him. I wanted him to think that that's pussy. Man, 1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:55.040 my god, oh my god. Now that's grown ass. Man 1:28:55.160 --> 1:28:57.160 gonna tell you not to response. We're eating your ass 1:28:57.360 --> 1:29:03.040 right now, nig somebody don't respond and ship right. Oh man, 1:29:03.920 --> 1:29:18.479 this is real for me, this is so surreal. Welcome 1:29:18.560 --> 1:29:21.560 to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and 1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:26.200 TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play 1:29:26.280 --> 1:29:30.719 it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs 1:29:30.840 --> 1:29:36.640 Radio with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then I 1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:39.719 don't even know where to go here if we're gonna 1:29:39.720 --> 1:29:44.040 wrap this up before here, before we wrap this up, 1:29:44.280 --> 1:29:46.800 I'm the only Miami represented here, right, Yes, So it 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:49.479 wouldn't be right for you to walk away without me 1:29:49.560 --> 1:29:53.559 to represent my generation of Miami hip hop. And when 1:29:53.600 --> 1:29:57.120 you recorded with Mother Superior this album, didn't really see 1:29:57.160 --> 1:30:01.000 the letter. This is your usually lie. Mother Superior. Mother 1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:04.840 Superior is this dope m C that came out of 1:30:04.880 --> 1:30:08.240 Miami in the mid nineties early mid nineties, and she 1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:11.639 was spearheading our movement. I mean, there was those funky Bastards, 1:30:11.720 --> 1:30:14.840 there was Society, Home Team, there was there was We 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:17.360 had a bubble of movement that was parallel to the 1:30:17.400 --> 1:30:20.439 base movement based, no doubt is a part of our 1:30:20.640 --> 1:30:23.960 Miami culture, but we had we had a hip hop 1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:25.840 and the way you guys were talking about how everybody 1:30:25.920 --> 1:30:28.160 was talking about the Brooklyn, the Bronx or whatever in 1:30:28.280 --> 1:30:31.599 the clubs, we had that problem here. So what we're 1:30:31.640 --> 1:30:35.519 trying to do is build our own identity. He did 1:30:35.560 --> 1:30:39.200 a record, so she did this album she got signed 1:30:39.240 --> 1:30:43.519 the Island Music she you know, strictly off of underground radio. 1:30:44.560 --> 1:30:47.759 She did a song called rock Bottom, which was totally 1:30:47.800 --> 1:30:51.439 representative of Miami. And then he did a record with her, 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:54.479 maybe a couple, but this one record I put on 1:30:54.520 --> 1:30:56.320 one of my mixtapes, but her album never came out 1:30:56.360 --> 1:30:59.360 and got shelved. And he said, where you at? Where 1:30:59.400 --> 1:31:03.400 you at? Miami's on the map. I remember that, and 1:31:03.439 --> 1:31:06.599 then you remembers everything that made that made the world 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:11.600 of difference for a Miami hip hop kid. And I 1:31:11.720 --> 1:31:13.800 just you couldn't leave without me telling you that because 1:31:13.800 --> 1:31:15.360 it made the world a difference for all of us 1:31:15.400 --> 1:31:21.000 out here that I felt shot out some other superior, 1:31:21.600 --> 1:31:28.000 superior she was. She was hot man stone words. Peter 1:31:28.320 --> 1:31:31.800 got question, where was your mind that when you made 1:31:31.840 --> 1:31:34.800 the sound of the Police? I was sick of these 1:31:34.920 --> 1:31:37.760 pigs man shooting us down in the street. And it's 1:31:37.800 --> 1:31:40.559 still going on still, what it was going on since 1:31:40.880 --> 1:31:42.880 we got here? So what was the sound of? What 1:31:43.280 --> 1:31:50.680 year was that? Technical? Damn this and were now one 1:31:50.760 --> 1:31:54.519 years and you made that record then? Yeah, and it's 1:31:54.560 --> 1:31:57.360 still going on now still to this tape, Little n 1:31:57.560 --> 1:32:00.360 W A man the police? What was. Yeah, it was 1:32:00.680 --> 1:32:06.080 the police that And see, this is the thing is 1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:13.320 that people say, you know, black people are overdoing it. 1:32:14.120 --> 1:32:19.200 We have documents, records that says that these people was 1:32:19.280 --> 1:32:21.800 doing it. So I just like to say, what was 1:32:21.840 --> 1:32:24.040 the mind state you woke this in the South Bronx. 1:32:24.920 --> 1:32:28.479 Well keep in mind that. Wow. I don't even know 1:32:28.560 --> 1:32:34.680 how to say this, but um, in the Bronx. Uh, 1:32:35.760 --> 1:32:40.439 if you was really successful with you'll hustle in the hood, 1:32:41.320 --> 1:32:46.639 the cops was your friends. It was Larry Davis. Yeah, 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:49.720 you were. Larry Davis was right on our block like 1:32:49.920 --> 1:32:52.280 Webster Project. He was up the block from Webster Project. 1:32:52.360 --> 1:32:56.320 The whole thing went down. Um, the cops was like 1:32:56.960 --> 1:33:01.200 they were gangster like. It's like, oh boom, okay, to 1:33:01.280 --> 1:33:04.880 speed this up. Training day, the movie training day. That 1:33:05.760 --> 1:33:09.000 ship is every day all day. Okay, just go out 1:33:09.080 --> 1:33:11.680 training day and you'll know what it is. It's just 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:16.560 this was another gang with another jurisdiction. And then and 1:33:16.680 --> 1:33:18.200 this is what we was dealing with. So if you 1:33:18.280 --> 1:33:21.240 remember in Bookie Down Productions, we had to we had 1:33:21.320 --> 1:33:24.559 to do called RoboCop that was with us and there 1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:29.080 were two of them. One was um A Bounced was 1:33:29.200 --> 1:33:33.479 the lead bouncer at Latin Quarters who is known for 1:33:33.680 --> 1:33:37.720 breaking dudes up in Latin Call. He had a reputation. 1:33:38.320 --> 1:33:41.960 You didn't want to deal with this dude, okay. And 1:33:42.160 --> 1:33:46.479 there was another dude, uh that was a state trooper, 1:33:46.600 --> 1:33:50.519 New Jersey State trooper. Um when I'm posting on the 1:33:50.760 --> 1:33:54.960 going to cover biomies necessary with the oozy the ouziest 1:33:55.000 --> 1:34:03.360 from a New Jersey state trooper. Remember the studio jet shopper. 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:05.840 I didn't look at I didn't look as cool as you. 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:08.559 That was from New Jersey said she was so weird. 1:34:08.680 --> 1:34:11.200 Austin it was like it got to a point where 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:14.280 he was like, you know what, we we can't associate 1:34:14.479 --> 1:34:17.960 with you anymore because of what was going on. It 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:20.960 was a split like in our own community, because like 1:34:21.560 --> 1:34:23.880 if you're really in the hood, like like you could 1:34:23.920 --> 1:34:27.760 be selling mad drugs, but your brother's a cop, Like 1:34:27.960 --> 1:34:32.160 your cousin's a cop, your uncle's a cop. Like you know, 1:34:32.280 --> 1:34:34.960 it's not just oh, I'm a cop and everybody around 1:34:35.080 --> 1:34:39.280 me is clean. It's the exact opposite. Dudes, did the 1:34:39.439 --> 1:34:44.000 cops even today they gotta live with people like like, 1:34:44.120 --> 1:34:46.920 imagine you a cop and every day you see crime 1:34:47.080 --> 1:34:49.599 all around you every day, but you can just pick. Okay, 1:34:49.640 --> 1:34:51.920 I'm gonna arrestue today. How did you come up with 1:34:51.960 --> 1:34:56.160 an analogy from officer overseas? But that's that's some ot 1:34:56.160 --> 1:34:58.960 ship because when we when we were first and we 1:34:59.040 --> 1:35:02.400 were first brought here uh not as slaves but really 1:35:02.479 --> 1:35:07.040 as soldiers on the Spanish side, um uh and and 1:35:07.160 --> 1:35:10.760 then slaves on the English side. Although that's controversial too, 1:35:11.520 --> 1:35:17.680 but yo, yo, hit yo, yo, we're gonna get your 1:35:17.720 --> 1:35:19.720 new phone cameras. No, I need that when I need 1:35:19.800 --> 1:35:24.720 that ship, I need that. My ship is eighty can't 1:35:24.760 --> 1:35:27.960 do that. I'm bringing that ship back. I'm personally buying you. 1:35:28.080 --> 1:35:34.400 I gotta beeper nickels. I got no word. I'll say, y'all, 1:35:35.000 --> 1:35:45.439 I bring my ship IOUs serious, I gotta beat hold 1:35:45.520 --> 1:35:50.720 my beeper man, bring beepers back that yo. That yo. 1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:53.200 You want to get dream, you gotta beat us. Yeah, 1:35:53.240 --> 1:35:58.240 you gotta beat us. I'm personally buying caress the world. Okay, okay, okay, okay, 1:35:58.600 --> 1:36:01.559 So you remember you're talking about because you can forget 1:36:01.600 --> 1:36:06.840 it and um yeah I did. Yeah, that's okay. Listen, 1:36:06.960 --> 1:36:09.800 we wanted to take the community, oh, cops in the 1:36:09.880 --> 1:36:14.880 community that's right, signing the police. So the cops is 1:36:14.920 --> 1:36:17.439 always your friends in the hood, which is the weirdest 1:36:17.520 --> 1:36:21.240 ship because when you really in the hood, cops ain't 1:36:21.320 --> 1:36:24.560 arresting you, ain't shooting you. He's a bitch, instead of 1:36:24.640 --> 1:36:29.080 shooting at us. Motherfucker's that ain't no real ship. That's 1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:32.839 some bullshit. Okay, that's that's scared. They said, we're scared. 1:36:33.800 --> 1:36:37.760 That's what we shoot because we're scared. Real cops. They 1:36:37.880 --> 1:36:44.400 know exactly who's selling who they hit the d A. Yo, 1:36:44.560 --> 1:36:49.000 go watch training day the d A. Go ahead, this 1:36:49.240 --> 1:36:54.240 dude to this one. I say all the time when 1:36:54.360 --> 1:36:58.479 we have police brutality, is when they stopped letting the 1:36:58.680 --> 1:37:02.519 cops from the hood go to hud because you know, 1:37:02.840 --> 1:37:05.200 you know what you call it from down the block. 1:37:05.520 --> 1:37:08.120 He went to school with him. You know he's a thief. 1:37:08.600 --> 1:37:11.280 You don't need to kill him. But when what happened 1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:13.720 is they take the cops from our hood and they 1:37:13.840 --> 1:37:16.720 bring them to another place, and then they bring the 1:37:16.800 --> 1:37:21.360 cops from another place, and that's the borderline. That's that's 1:37:21.560 --> 1:37:25.519 that's one of the essential reasons why police brutality exists, 1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:30.400 because if you had Jamal that that's from sound View project, 1:37:30.520 --> 1:37:33.880 and that went to school and sound View, and then 1:37:33.920 --> 1:37:37.559 that was patrolling sound View. He's gonna be different as 1:37:37.640 --> 1:37:42.639 opposed to as a Paul to Walter, who's from wherever wherever, 1:37:42.880 --> 1:37:45.560 but now he's patrolling sound View. He's never seen a 1:37:45.720 --> 1:37:49.120 kid with braids. He's never seen a kid either by 1:37:49.200 --> 1:37:55.519 since I see so he's gonna just do whatever this woman. 1:37:56.120 --> 1:38:01.560 This add on. The police are supposed to be the 1:38:01.800 --> 1:38:05.040 model citizen in the community, no matter who you are, 1:38:05.680 --> 1:38:08.880 white cop, black cop, Latino cop, Asian cop, Arab cop. 1:38:08.920 --> 1:38:11.880 I'm gonna funk who you are. You take you take 1:38:12.160 --> 1:38:16.240 police training. You're supposed to be the model citizens. You 1:38:16.280 --> 1:38:20.439 should have the most restraint. Okay. Kids are looking at you. 1:38:20.560 --> 1:38:23.679 They should be able to look at you and be like, yo, dad, 1:38:23.760 --> 1:38:26.280 I want to be a cop, and your dad be like, yo, 1:38:26.360 --> 1:38:28.599 you gotta really be a good man to be a cop. 1:38:29.120 --> 1:38:31.880 And that that's what it's supposed to be. But our 1:38:32.280 --> 1:38:38.719 children forget adults. Okay, children know the cops are corrupt. Okay, 1:38:38.920 --> 1:38:42.040 that's the state we are, right, Kids, not forget the adults. 1:38:43.160 --> 1:38:46.280 Kids know I'm not safe around this duo. I'd rather 1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:49.040 be around my shooters over here with the rag on 1:38:49.160 --> 1:38:53.360 the here, I'm safe around crips and blood. I rather hot. 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:56.479 You know, I'm even gonna say that ship. I'm just 1:38:56.600 --> 1:39:00.879 saying I rather higher them, which we do as opposed 1:39:00.920 --> 1:39:04.559 to some some off duty cops. Years ago, we used 1:39:04.600 --> 1:39:09.200 to hire off duty cops x FBI. These dudes need jobs. 1:39:09.280 --> 1:39:10.840 You just go ahead and you hire them for and 1:39:10.920 --> 1:39:13.240 now you give them some money. You're doing your country 1:39:13.360 --> 1:39:16.280 or service. These are veterans, and ship, do you do 1:39:16.479 --> 1:39:20.160 your thing now? It's like, nah, man, let me organize 1:39:20.200 --> 1:39:23.599 these blogs over here. Hit them with some money because 1:39:24.240 --> 1:39:27.040 on the street for let me hit them with some cash. 1:39:27.080 --> 1:39:29.960 And y'all God, y'all can stand in. Just do what 1:39:30.080 --> 1:39:32.120 you're supposed to do and get organized. I'd rather hire 1:39:32.160 --> 1:39:35.120 them as long as we know that we're not safe 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.640 around the police. This whole ship is corrupt and let 1:39:37.680 --> 1:39:40.640 me show you this. I want some Illuminati ship if 1:39:40.680 --> 1:39:46.120 you really want to know. Years ago, like eighty two, 1:39:47.439 --> 1:39:51.439 there was a supposedly a conspiracy theory going around about 1:39:51.520 --> 1:39:57.240 eighty three. It said that the new World Order is 1:39:57.320 --> 1:40:02.559 going to include a global police force, and the way 1:40:02.680 --> 1:40:07.799 to implement the global police force was for local police 1:40:08.200 --> 1:40:12.280 to become so hated by the local community that the 1:40:12.479 --> 1:40:19.439 local communities cry out for international interference. So now you 1:40:19.600 --> 1:40:24.519 have these cops today randomly just shooting down black people, 1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:28.720 just shooting and it's stupid. It's like, it's ridiculous. Now 1:40:28.840 --> 1:40:32.920 the rest of the world's saying, Yo, what's something with America? 1:40:33.720 --> 1:40:35.800 What's what's something? Do you go to other places? You know? 1:40:35.920 --> 1:40:37.840 Nor are you go to places? Dudes looking at us 1:40:37.920 --> 1:40:40.479 like wait, crazy, like you know what's going on? Got 1:40:40.520 --> 1:40:43.200 Africans asked me, you old bro, what's something? Man of 1:40:43.280 --> 1:40:45.880 black man? Sometimes you land in these different countries, they'd 1:40:45.880 --> 1:40:52.880 be like welcome, like you're here, like you survived. And dudes, 1:40:53.040 --> 1:40:56.320 you think that's because because became president it got worse 1:40:56.600 --> 1:41:01.320 or no no, you're saying yeah, no, no, no, no, 1:41:01.560 --> 1:41:02.840 you know what he got to do, and he got 1:41:02.880 --> 1:41:05.320 a lot of factors in it. First of all, people 1:41:05.600 --> 1:41:09.640 want black people in jail. Okay, people making money on it. 1:41:09.760 --> 1:41:13.200 Black people are making money on black people in jail. Okay. 1:41:13.640 --> 1:41:17.880 This black d a sending business Like, don't doubt this 1:41:18.080 --> 1:41:21.040 black d a sending black people a prison. Black judges 1:41:21.080 --> 1:41:23.880 are sending black people to prison. Black cops are sending 1:41:23.920 --> 1:41:28.200 black people, black cops, black stop shooting black beebo. We 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:32.920 y'all gonna drop, I got you, you know. So it's 1:41:33.000 --> 1:41:37.679 like it's like, are we really at war with any 1:41:37.720 --> 1:41:40.479 outside for us? So we all with ourselves? Are we 1:41:40.920 --> 1:41:43.599 just going along with the script that they have planned 1:41:43.680 --> 1:41:47.320 for us? And it's like straight up and down. They 1:41:47.439 --> 1:41:50.000 just had Tyler Quality was just with me the other day. 1:41:50.520 --> 1:41:57.920 He came over. So he just told me he just 1:41:58.040 --> 1:42:00.719 came from the White House with a blood. The rappers 1:42:00.760 --> 1:42:04.680 were there and really nothing got discussed, you know. And 1:42:04.760 --> 1:42:07.320 they never call people like me or Chalk or and 1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:13.880 one or no doubt, and that's that's what they need. 1:42:13.960 --> 1:42:16.840 But they never know. But you know what they had 1:42:16.960 --> 1:42:21.479 ricked there. You know what I'm saying. You know what 1:42:21.560 --> 1:42:23.719 I'm saying. So I'm saying, no, why don't they because 1:42:23.720 --> 1:42:25.639 they know you're gonna come with the truth. Look, here's 1:42:25.640 --> 1:42:31.320 the point is that is that we're moving into this script. 1:42:32.200 --> 1:42:36.479 The United States has to become what its name is 1:42:36.600 --> 1:42:41.000 in order to it to survive. United funk all this 1:42:41.240 --> 1:42:46.599 black ship, give me this this this is this legendary 1:42:47.360 --> 1:42:52.120 what right here America? We got to become a United America. 1:42:52.240 --> 1:42:56.519 Gotta stand up for America, like straight up when you 1:42:56.640 --> 1:42:59.120 go to other country's nick is this in US man 1:42:59.400 --> 1:43:02.720 this and the Americans this and not everybody because my 1:43:03.960 --> 1:43:09.880 first game president, everybody with you know whatever. Overseas, they 1:43:09.960 --> 1:43:16.360 was like black like the like the first year after 1:43:16.439 --> 1:43:21.720 that there was you know. But there's a rumor that 1:43:21.880 --> 1:43:28.880 you didn't fly. He was taking boats and Franklin. So 1:43:29.200 --> 1:43:32.439 so do you do you fly now? No? I fly privately. 1:43:33.320 --> 1:43:37.080 I love flying. I fly helicopters. I'll fly private jets 1:43:37.240 --> 1:43:39.200 and things like that. Take a few private jets here 1:43:39.240 --> 1:43:44.080 in there. But commercial airlines for me, it's too much 1:43:44.200 --> 1:43:47.200 to love in the hood is too much for k arrest. 1:43:47.280 --> 1:43:50.600 I don't. I can't do nothing like you know, like 1:43:51.000 --> 1:43:53.200 to get to the airport, it takes me an hour. 1:43:53.360 --> 1:43:56.599 The baggage claim sucking the whole baggage claim. I take 1:43:56.640 --> 1:43:59.840 pictures with everybody pounds. I'm not leaving my people. I'm 1:43:59.880 --> 1:44:02.599 not is gonna walk past you. So everybody said, yo, Chris, 1:44:02.680 --> 1:44:04.880 I gotta stop. I gotta take things. I got sign ship, 1:44:05.320 --> 1:44:07.720 get on the plane. The stewardess buggat the people on 1:44:07.840 --> 1:44:11.560 the on the plane, bugging Captain. I said, you know what, 1:44:12.040 --> 1:44:15.080 and this was ninety seven. I said, forget it. I'm 1:44:15.120 --> 1:44:17.200 not flying. I'm not flying on what I can't you 1:44:17.280 --> 1:44:22.880 haven't from since ninety seven, actually ninety six. Let's being rich. 1:44:24.960 --> 1:44:29.679 I don't know. You gotta be tweating a line a rich. Listen, 1:44:30.920 --> 1:44:32.880 it's not rich. I'm not a rich man. I'm a 1:44:32.960 --> 1:44:35.400 very poor man. No, no, me too, I say the same, 1:44:35.520 --> 1:44:43.240 I take I'm not rich, me too, I'm pot. But 1:44:44.000 --> 1:44:45.760 the private thing is let's talk about it. But but 1:44:45.960 --> 1:44:49.000 but I won't fry privately. I take very good care 1:44:49.040 --> 1:44:51.320 of my wife and my children. Okay, that's what it's. 1:44:51.439 --> 1:44:55.160 I don't need anything, but they need a lot. So, 1:44:55.720 --> 1:44:57.439 you know, I say, look, I don't want to have 1:44:57.520 --> 1:45:00.280 a career where I'm away from my kids on my wife. Ethan, 1:45:00.320 --> 1:45:02.400 it's that the other so and I can't be away 1:45:02.439 --> 1:45:04.479 from my wife. She books all the tours. Did you 1:45:04.640 --> 1:45:08.240 book a boat to London? I heard that. I heard this. 1:45:08.640 --> 1:45:12.360 That's why I'm rushing out of here now. Yeah, I'm 1:45:12.360 --> 1:45:17.840 going to Speen tomorrow. Talk about are you getting a 1:45:18.000 --> 1:45:23.439 boat to Man's Woman? Mimi, I'm going in tomorrow. This 1:45:23.720 --> 1:45:27.720 Coronesian Nowegian cruise posting right up to your board. I'm 1:45:27.760 --> 1:45:30.240 getting on that ship and then it goes to go 1:45:30.400 --> 1:45:33.040 to Spain. How many days? Fourteen days, I'll be in 1:45:33.120 --> 1:45:41.040 Barcelona world, So this is this is current you and 1:45:41.200 --> 1:45:44.559 college is like the only two left. You know, College 1:45:44.560 --> 1:45:51.040 don't fly either. I think he got expected though fly? 1:45:51.200 --> 1:45:54.200 Why should he fly? So? Why what? What? Why you 1:45:54.240 --> 1:45:57.160 wouldn't fly? Well? Well, first of all, like I told you, 1:45:57.320 --> 1:46:01.200 commercial travel to me is just hectic. Besides that, like 1:46:01.320 --> 1:46:03.479 you know now, besides that, I have books to write. 1:46:03.760 --> 1:46:06.439 I got rhymes to right, I read a lot. My 1:46:06.600 --> 1:46:09.479 life is slower, you know what I'm saying. I take 1:46:09.600 --> 1:46:12.360 time with my family, my wife, my daughter, my son's 1:46:12.439 --> 1:46:15.479 I got you need time for that. So you know, 1:46:15.800 --> 1:46:19.160 fourteen days at see, I'm finishing up three books that 1:46:19.240 --> 1:46:24.439 I'm just finishing. You just zone now try that one. 1:46:24.560 --> 1:46:26.559 You should. You should try writing rhymes in the middle 1:46:26.560 --> 1:46:28.680 of the Atlantic. I got a d D hit that 1:46:29.400 --> 1:46:33.400 you don't have a d D smoke too much. I 1:46:33.520 --> 1:46:38.280 might just jump over escualde Cures. That's what I'm saying. 1:46:39.360 --> 1:46:41.559 It doesn't have it. And the thing is the weed 1:46:41.640 --> 1:46:43.600 I smoke is so loud, like it's gonna be a 1:46:43.720 --> 1:46:46.160 judge that come out. I'm gonna tell you a story, right, 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:49.320 I'll tell you I was in Hawaii because I remember 1:46:49.360 --> 1:46:53.040 this story because he's drinking my ties. So I'm in Hawaii, right, 1:46:53.560 --> 1:46:57.559 I'm out, hold on, hold on, I'm smoking weed. Right. 1:46:58.680 --> 1:47:04.559 This is my first marriage, it's my I'm married again, 1:47:04.640 --> 1:47:10.320 it's my second one. Pray for me. So I'm sitting 1:47:10.320 --> 1:47:13.400 there smoking. The people at the Four Seasons, the Four 1:47:13.479 --> 1:47:16.680 Seasons Maui. So they called me and they say, yo, 1:47:18.760 --> 1:47:22.280 are you smoking up there? And I'm like, yeah, I 1:47:22.360 --> 1:47:24.400 don't know what I paid for this room, but I 1:47:24.560 --> 1:47:28.960 just know my accountant lost her mind. So I'm like, yeah, 1:47:29.000 --> 1:47:31.760 I'm smoking. They're like, kids, you would you mind not 1:47:31.920 --> 1:47:34.719 smoking on the terrorists? So I said, now you're inviting 1:47:34.760 --> 1:47:38.160 me to smoke in the room. They're like, you're right. 1:47:38.840 --> 1:47:42.960 They're like, we have a very important guest that is upstairs. 1:47:43.080 --> 1:47:45.200 And I'm like, did the guests pay more than me? 1:47:46.280 --> 1:47:50.040 And they're like no. So I'm like, well, they're like 1:47:50.240 --> 1:47:52.559 Mr Santiago, that's my last name. I don't know if 1:47:52.560 --> 1:47:54.840 you don't pay. Puerto Rican makes a noise for La team, 1:47:56.280 --> 1:47:58.400 but I'm black and like so so they say I'm 1:47:58.400 --> 1:48:02.760 actually performing in Santiago. This is a gift. So they 1:48:02.840 --> 1:48:05.879 say to me, they say, you're right, you're actually outside. 1:48:05.960 --> 1:48:09.080 You can't do it. I look on the news. This 1:48:09.320 --> 1:48:14.799 is when Oprah um step son had drowned in Hawaii 1:48:15.439 --> 1:48:18.240 and Maui. So the person I was telling them to 1:48:18.400 --> 1:48:21.679 tell them the funk that I paid the same amount 1:48:22.360 --> 1:48:29.879 was fucking Oprah. This is hard a morbid story because 1:48:30.200 --> 1:48:32.720 I like that I actually paid square for square. We 1:48:32.800 --> 1:48:35.400 had the same exact room. God bless you know the 1:48:35.439 --> 1:48:39.439 people who passed away and everything. But that ship was 1:48:39.520 --> 1:48:42.160 just a moment for me. It was a moment for 1:48:42.320 --> 1:48:46.599 just me standing in my ground but now and trying 1:48:46.640 --> 1:48:49.400 to make this one work. The second was always the best. 1:48:49.479 --> 1:48:52.360 You're the second one to ms. Melanie was first, okay 1:48:52.840 --> 1:48:54.200 a year and a half and big up to her 1:48:54.200 --> 1:49:01.479 wresting peace. God blessed not that I'm every related, by 1:49:01.520 --> 1:49:03.680 the way, So if you seen me do that, I'm not. 1:49:04.439 --> 1:49:09.760 I'm a Muslim, Christian, God body your caress. Thank you 1:49:09.880 --> 1:49:11.680 for so much for hanging out with us. And we're 1:49:11.720 --> 1:49:17.400 not going and I'll come back. I'm not fourteen days 1:49:17.439 --> 1:49:19.640 when I come back. The people need you let's just 1:49:19.760 --> 1:49:23.000 break it down for these people. You are going fourteen days, 1:49:23.439 --> 1:49:26.040 So now how does this cruise happen? You leave in Miami, 1:49:26.520 --> 1:49:30.000 do you stop anywhere? Yes? Will you stop that? We 1:49:30.120 --> 1:49:33.640 stopped in fun called Africa. We stopped on you go 1:49:33.720 --> 1:49:40.120 from Miami to Africa? Yeah, we got that. Real questioning Africa, 1:49:40.320 --> 1:49:45.360 I've never heard of some Bahamas, a little Bahama, little Bahamas. 1:49:45.360 --> 1:49:47.599 Then you get out to Africa, then you get done 1:49:47.640 --> 1:49:50.080 this trip before. Oh yeah, no doubt. Not only this ship, 1:49:50.520 --> 1:49:52.400 but I've done other ships I've done. And how many 1:49:52.479 --> 1:49:56.000 times do you say you them this oh sailed? Yes? 1:49:56.560 --> 1:49:59.200 Oh at least thirty times? And you believe in a 1:49:59.280 --> 1:50:02.439 boat you've got an everything Titanic? No, no, no, there's 1:50:02.439 --> 1:50:05.519 no Titanic anywhere in the Atlantic Ocean. The coast guard 1:50:05.520 --> 1:50:10.120 will get you in ten minutes. Anyway, It ain't that 1:50:10.240 --> 1:50:13.480 bo that's bullshit. That's this movie ship. This rich motherfucker's 1:50:13.520 --> 1:50:16.800 on that boat. That boat ain't going nowhere. There's no 1:50:17.080 --> 1:50:20.800 there's nothing, there's nothing now mind you. Now come on now, 1:50:20.920 --> 1:50:30.240 Caribbean Cruises and all that you cruise, Do I get them? 1:50:31.040 --> 1:50:36.240 Oh yeah, no doubt. You get platinum gold status, healthy passengers, 1:50:36.439 --> 1:50:40.680 no doubt. But some of the triangle, the triangle you 1:50:40.760 --> 1:50:45.360 haven't been there. Yeah, part of the triangle you've been 1:50:46.439 --> 1:50:49.120 right through it. Get right there. The Bermuda try and 1:50:49.200 --> 1:50:52.479 go only acts something when when like you know you 1:50:52.880 --> 1:50:56.120 you have to go through that and like like, um, 1:50:56.439 --> 1:50:59.919 it's like certain seasons where they say it's like hurricanes 1:51:00.000 --> 1:51:02.680 season or this kind of thing. Look everything, because it 1:51:02.680 --> 1:51:05.120 gets the bottom line. You trust the boat more than 1:51:05.160 --> 1:51:09.679 the plane. No, no, no, okay, I trust me driving 1:51:09.880 --> 1:51:13.240 ship more than anything. Okay, I would prefer to get 1:51:13.320 --> 1:51:17.080 my own boat and sail across the sea myself, but 1:51:17.280 --> 1:51:19.840 I'm not going to settle for a small yacht. Like 1:51:19.960 --> 1:51:22.200 you know, I could do a small yacht right now, 1:51:22.360 --> 1:51:24.800 but that's not what I want. What I want is 1:51:24.840 --> 1:51:27.240 an actual ship that I could go across and of 1:51:27.320 --> 1:51:30.519 course mad money. So I'm just holding out till I 1:51:30.560 --> 1:51:32.120 can get my own ship, and then I could. I 1:51:32.200 --> 1:51:36.360 could see some motherfucker's want to buy planes. They want ship, 1:51:36.479 --> 1:51:38.920 pair of us one and one on the ship something 1:51:41.600 --> 1:51:44.519 that's straight up no doubt. So you think I'm gonna 1:51:44.520 --> 1:51:48.080 give you this last one? Um, it's the last question. 1:51:51.120 --> 1:51:55.840 Boxing don't have no representative which means that if you're 1:51:55.840 --> 1:51:58.720 a boxer, you make it, you make it. If your 1:51:58.760 --> 1:52:02.160 boxer you don't make it, you're fucked up. There's no 1:52:02.680 --> 1:52:05.920 there's no reparations, there's no like you know, type of 1:52:06.400 --> 1:52:08.560 you know, to hold you down. Hip hop is the 1:52:08.680 --> 1:52:14.960 only other, I want to say, entertainment company that we 1:52:15.120 --> 1:52:18.280 might have thirty people that's down with us. But when 1:52:18.320 --> 1:52:20.679 you go on that vocable before you go to perform 1:52:20.800 --> 1:52:24.760 that record, it's just you. Similar to boxing, we don't 1:52:24.800 --> 1:52:27.400 have nothing to representing us in the hip hop. We 1:52:27.560 --> 1:52:30.479 hear that the president just recently met Matt with these 1:52:30.520 --> 1:52:34.000 people Toddler Quality brothers that we know bust the rhymes. 1:52:34.400 --> 1:52:37.920 What do you think it's our solution to make we 1:52:38.040 --> 1:52:39.519 need a hip hop you know when you wanted the 1:52:39.600 --> 1:52:43.000 life insurance or the health insurance even further than that. 1:52:43.160 --> 1:52:46.920 Now Um yeah, well let me let me because like 1:52:47.080 --> 1:52:51.400 right now, like like DC right, phenomenal guy lost his voice. 1:52:52.400 --> 1:52:54.559 They should have been health insurance that kind of helped 1:52:54.600 --> 1:52:57.400 him restore that. We didn't have that and right now, 1:52:57.520 --> 1:53:00.280 But it's because Jenna Kiss said something on our part cast. 1:53:00.360 --> 1:53:02.760 He said, we're the only people who have a hip 1:53:02.800 --> 1:53:07.479 hop South hip hop regions. Yes, there's no hip hop, 1:53:07.920 --> 1:53:11.280 there's no rock and roll South, there's no rock and roll. 1:53:11.600 --> 1:53:14.160 Why are we segregating? Why are we saying and and 1:53:14.360 --> 1:53:17.800 and do we need this? This this policies where we 1:53:18.280 --> 1:53:21.479 if Coolherd gets sick, we can go and help him. 1:53:22.160 --> 1:53:25.680 Do we need that? Yes we do, Yes we do, 1:53:26.000 --> 1:53:29.960 and and and and and I advocated absolutely. Unity is 1:53:30.000 --> 1:53:32.960 the only thing we talked about, American unity. Let's let's 1:53:33.000 --> 1:53:36.080 tweak it down to hip hop unity. Hip hop is 1:53:36.200 --> 1:53:40.960 the greatest urban movement to hit human history. Let's just 1:53:41.080 --> 1:53:47.879 start human history. Okay, human history, Okay, hip hop breaking 1:53:47.960 --> 1:53:51.479 him seeing graffiti or DJ and beatboxing. You can add 1:53:51.520 --> 1:53:56.240 street fashion, language, knowledge, all of that. That movement in 1:53:56.400 --> 1:54:00.960 the hood. That that right there, hip hop is is 1:54:01.439 --> 1:54:07.280 what America really is. It's like the true declaration of independence. 1:54:07.320 --> 1:54:11.120 It's what America is. But we got these old people. 1:54:11.760 --> 1:54:14.799 You asked me also about hip hop's old school. Okay, 1:54:15.160 --> 1:54:17.160 I have respect for the old school. We always should, 1:54:17.240 --> 1:54:19.799 we did. Those are the ancestors, those are the elders, 1:54:19.880 --> 1:54:23.720 those are the fathers, godfathers and so on. That's that's 1:54:23.720 --> 1:54:27.439 what it is. But when you don't do your job, 1:54:28.720 --> 1:54:32.960 you don't deserve the respect of the youth. Elder is 1:54:33.000 --> 1:54:38.480 always asking for respect that they don't deserve me. I 1:54:38.640 --> 1:54:41.800 try to earn the respect of the youth. I don't 1:54:41.840 --> 1:54:44.480 look down on them. I think they're smarter than me. 1:54:44.800 --> 1:54:47.880 I think they're faster than me. I think they think 1:54:47.960 --> 1:54:50.880 of things beyond what I can think about. Now. Of 1:54:51.000 --> 1:54:54.240 course I tell them, hey, look, I'm the old head 1:54:54.320 --> 1:54:56.480 in the room, and I like that ship. I'm fifty 1:54:56.680 --> 1:54:59.480 fun this ship. Okay, that's my ship. I got a 1:55:00.000 --> 1:55:21.080 our peacon. I want my ship next time. Dude, Yo, 1:55:23.200 --> 1:55:32.440 that's what I'm saying. What fifty percent off hotels ship 1:55:37.600 --> 1:55:44.600 is bad? Let me tell you, Okay, we yo, were 1:55:44.640 --> 1:55:48.720 the elders in this. Young people are supposed to look 1:55:48.880 --> 1:55:52.120 up to us and be like, Yo, that's what it 1:55:52.280 --> 1:55:55.760 means to be fifty and hip hop world. You got 1:55:55.840 --> 1:56:00.440 your knowledge downpack, your family straight, you got your money right, 1:56:00.760 --> 1:56:03.320 You're doing your thing. That's what young people need to 1:56:03.520 --> 1:56:10.840 see and see more blue the blue print. Now we're 1:56:10.880 --> 1:56:13.840 gonna do it. Shows like this, your ship bringing people 1:56:13.920 --> 1:56:17.880 together right now as we speak. Right now, as we speak, 1:56:17.960 --> 1:56:20.240 dus is here and what it is what we gotta 1:56:20.320 --> 1:56:23.520 do is really unite, and here's what it's gonna take. 1:56:23.640 --> 1:56:26.120 Here's you asked this about to stop the violence movement 1:56:26.120 --> 1:56:28.920 about my brothers ain't doing that today? What we're so 1:56:29.120 --> 1:56:33.760 hard to do that today? Too much, too much competition, 1:56:34.400 --> 1:56:40.440 not enough cooperation. Okay, we live in a capitalist come 1:56:41.680 --> 1:56:46.080 we we we we live in a capitalist society where 1:56:47.200 --> 1:56:54.360 uh where competition is the number one order of the day. 1:56:54.800 --> 1:56:57.920 So the young are trained to kill the old so 1:56:58.080 --> 1:57:00.080 that you can get so so that you could you 1:57:00.160 --> 1:57:02.200 what it is the younger train to kill the all. 1:57:02.480 --> 1:57:05.200 The all a train to kill the young so you 1:57:05.280 --> 1:57:08.480 can stay in power. Kill these youngest as they coming up. 1:57:08.760 --> 1:57:10.440 I don't want you to take your hip hop the 1:57:10.520 --> 1:57:14.320 only generation like you know, the Odds brothers could tour forever. 1:57:14.880 --> 1:57:18.200 Why did they try to kill the older? Well, it's 1:57:18.280 --> 1:57:23.320 that it's that competition. It's still competition. Look when we start, 1:57:23.480 --> 1:57:26.440 when we stopped thinking of hip hop as a music 1:57:26.920 --> 1:57:30.160 and start thinking of it as a culture, a nation, 1:57:30.720 --> 1:57:34.280 a community. When you start realizing that you are a nation, 1:57:34.720 --> 1:57:38.800 you're a sovereign nation, all we gotta do is unite, 1:57:40.000 --> 1:57:43.720 just just unite. Just here's a unity. I here it is. 1:57:44.360 --> 1:57:48.080 Let's print our own currency. Alright, start right, This is 1:57:48.160 --> 1:57:52.400 the unity of any nation starts with trust. We print 1:57:52.440 --> 1:57:56.080 a hundred thousand dollars for every hip hop citizen in 1:57:56.240 --> 1:57:59.880 existing we have a million citizens. We print a hundred 1:58:00.240 --> 1:58:11.880 million of our currency currency. Wif cent I'm coming right 1:58:11.920 --> 1:58:14.560 now here, he'll he'll be a fifty cent piece, fifties 1:58:14.560 --> 1:58:17.400 worth more than that. But but I'm saying, print our 1:58:17.520 --> 1:58:20.960 own currency, and let's see if the people spend that. No, 1:58:21.080 --> 1:58:26.280 they will, You'll be instantly rich. People buying albums, we 1:58:26.360 --> 1:58:31.840 give them, give them currency by our currency, not our albums. Right. 1:58:31.840 --> 1:58:33.680 If we gets selling the album, we did that, we 1:58:33.800 --> 1:58:37.520 know that game. Now let's sell currencies in which you 1:58:37.640 --> 1:58:39.760 got the k arrest currency, and d would be like, Yo, 1:58:39.880 --> 1:58:42.520 this ship is worth this this week up against the 1:58:42.520 --> 1:58:45.720 American dollar, up against this is the end, up against 1:58:45.760 --> 1:58:49.840 the Euro, against this ship. Yo. Look, if you gave 1:58:49.960 --> 1:58:52.680 me a hundred thousand dollars, say you know, let's say 1:58:52.680 --> 1:58:55.320 I gave you a hundred thousands. Okay, I'll give you 1:58:55.360 --> 1:59:00.240 a hundred thousand hip hop currency currency. Okay, now you're 1:59:00.240 --> 1:59:03.040 gonna spend it with my man right here. What we 1:59:03.280 --> 1:59:09.040 what we want is specialized people to have this money electricians. 1:59:09.160 --> 1:59:13.600 Right now, hip hop is old enough. We got doctors, lawyers, ps, workers, 1:59:13.640 --> 1:59:18.720 we got all kinds of and entrepreneurs, okay, huge entrepreneurs. 1:59:19.120 --> 1:59:23.000 All we gotta do is trade our own currency with 1:59:23.160 --> 1:59:26.360 each other, with each other. This hip hop has their 1:59:26.400 --> 1:59:36.520 own stores, farms. Look, dude, funk that American dollar. I 1:59:42.040 --> 1:59:51.360 wanted to see if you're gone this is I gotta 1:59:51.360 --> 1:59:57.240 be until four in the morning on the plastic I'm 1:59:57.240 --> 2:00:06.880 not it's plastics. Ship. We gotta join. We gotta drink somewhere. 2:00:06.920 --> 2:00:10.880 Are your caress. I love you so much, man much, 2:00:11.400 --> 2:00:13.560 thank you so much for joining us and being a 2:00:13.680 --> 2:00:17.120 great sport. Took a drink. You even tried to smoke. 2:00:17.240 --> 2:00:25.160 You didn't want to. You gotta need bring you back 2:00:25.240 --> 2:00:29.400 to the old school. Dude, brother, I'm adas that over there. Okay, 2:00:29.440 --> 2:00:33.600 bass it over there. That's the drink. We gotta take 2:00:33.640 --> 2:00:36.760 one picture with you. Over there, came green. There's no 2:00:36.880 --> 2:00:38.720 way I can thank you ever in my life. I'm 2:00:38.720 --> 2:00:42.120 gonna be in your video. We have a moment. I'm 2:00:42.240 --> 2:00:44.200 being her video. But it's no way I can thank 2:00:44.240 --> 2:00:47.280 you ever in life. Because this is this is actually 2:00:48.360 --> 2:00:50.400 like one of the first hip hop albums I've ever 2:00:50.480 --> 2:00:54.160 listened to this man. Yeah, one of the first people 2:00:54.280 --> 2:00:57.480 that I ever said. Then I thought about like my 2:00:57.600 --> 2:00:59.480 Mom's like, what you're gonna be in life? And I 2:00:59.640 --> 2:01:02.040 was just like, I don't know. I knew I couldn't 2:01:02.040 --> 2:01:06.160 be a teacher, not like you. But I am a teacher, 2:01:06.960 --> 2:01:09.680 but not like you. I'm a different teacher because I 2:01:09.720 --> 2:01:12.440 show him a different path. But if I've never would 2:01:12.440 --> 2:01:14.640 have heard you, I would have never wanted to speak. 2:01:14.680 --> 2:01:17.280 I would never be here. You know what I'm saying. 2:01:17.320 --> 2:01:19.840 Some hot Kim Green. You know that's my brother. He 2:01:20.040 --> 2:01:22.600 called me And when he called me, I said I 2:01:22.720 --> 2:01:25.440 knew the number, but I hit him back. I just said, 2:01:27.000 --> 2:01:30.960 called madness And he got a website. Right, come on, 2:01:31.080 --> 2:01:35.840 I can't come over here, come over here, here here, yeah, yeah, 2:01:35.960 --> 2:01:39.560 So shout out your website. We got the maddesm dot 2:01:39.680 --> 2:01:42.080 org popping off, the ultimate cannabis journal. You know you 2:01:42.160 --> 2:01:44.840 got you got the maddest popping off internationally. It's big 2:01:44.920 --> 2:01:46.560 money right now. I want to make sure my people 2:01:46.600 --> 2:01:47.680 get a taste of that, you know what I mean. 2:01:47.720 --> 2:01:50.000 So see us off that maddesm dot org so you 2:01:50.040 --> 2:01:52.480 can keep up with all the latest grow techniques. You 2:01:52.520 --> 2:01:54.960 know what I mean. Grow When you say grow, listen, 2:01:57.320 --> 2:02:00.600 I'm about cannabis. I'm talking about that goodness chronic that 2:02:00.920 --> 2:02:03.120 you know what we do, what we got going on. 2:02:03.800 --> 2:02:05.839 Your casts need to know how to grow for themselves. 2:02:05.920 --> 2:02:09.120 It's not not just about smoking it, but industrial hip 2:02:09.520 --> 2:02:15.320 is a multi b pipe in the mail. Yeah, I 2:02:15.360 --> 2:02:17.320 got the whole. We got the hot box, you know 2:02:17.320 --> 2:02:19.520 what I mean. How we got different ways of you know, 2:02:19.720 --> 2:02:22.560 the vaping, got the smoking, the leaves, the paper, the blood, 2:02:22.960 --> 2:02:25.160 but we got the hot box. It's just a special 2:02:25.240 --> 2:02:27.120 way of inhaling, you know what I mean. It's real, 2:02:27.200 --> 2:02:32.560 real good. I want more. Are you a vegetarian? What 2:02:32.680 --> 2:02:35.160 are you? Yeah? Yes, so you don't eat no fish? No, 2:02:35.800 --> 2:02:39.440 I try to eat. I leaned toward a vegetarian die, 2:02:39.520 --> 2:02:43.040 but I do eat fish. How about you. I'm not 2:02:43.160 --> 2:02:45.800 a vegetarian, right, but I am about my health. I 2:02:45.880 --> 2:02:47.440 do a lot of juicing. And I said, you keep 2:02:47.520 --> 2:02:51.440 up with the bartender trying happy about trying to d 2:02:51.480 --> 2:02:58.720 I drink. Yeah, thank you so much for saying my 2:02:58.880 --> 2:03:02.640 brother yo, no jarres. Yeah, I called you Chris for 2:03:02.720 --> 2:03:06.360 the first time in my life. I never called you Chris. No, 2:03:06.800 --> 2:03:09.000 what you know what. It's through the records. It's like 2:03:09.480 --> 2:03:12.800 I never knew if I had the ability to call you, Chris, 2:03:13.080 --> 2:03:16.400 thank you so much. I appreciate what that man, greatest 2:03:16.400 --> 2:03:19.680 sport you actually sat down and drink. I didn't think 2:03:19.720 --> 2:03:21.480 I was gonna be able. 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