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Cheers. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper, Hank Segue dies your boy 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: and he's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: d J e f N. Together they drink it up 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: with some of the biggest players in music and sport. 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: You know, I mean the most professional unprofessional podcast. This 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: is Drinks Chip Ready Whar Every day is New Year's 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: eud you know, Hay Hank Sechus, this is your Boy 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: and the DJ e f And right now we are 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: blessed with the legendary so we gotta gotta make some 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, because the intro was crazy. This 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: guy right here, like listen, listen, um, they have the 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: they have the Godfathers, and this man is directly like 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: my father in lyrics, like in in style, and I 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: directly try to be like this man right here, and 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: I send out the APB, try to make it happen. 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: Let's pick up a Hakim Green off top channel last 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: squark baddi is Um, we love you Hakim. But we 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: got the blast Master, we got the teacher, we got 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: the father directly templar hip hop all that, the Master, 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the dude who made it cool to learn earned in 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: music and still be entertained. You could be smart and 32 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: you could still dug it the funk out, yo. The 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: other day, I'm gonna be honest, I'm watching right Along Too. 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: And at the end of Right Along Too, my kids 35 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: they are eight and they are six, and they sung, 36 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: they said, whoa, whoa, this is the sign of the police. 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: And at that moment, I knew I was a great father. 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: I knew at that very moment I was a great father. 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: When my kids knew the sign of the police. We 40 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: have the one and only legendary. You can't say hip 41 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: hop without caress One in the building. Drink man, Oh 42 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: my god, we are yo. You know what the crazy 43 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: ship is. I'm gonna start the interview offs like this. 44 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: When I was locked up in a juvenile detention center, 45 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: I had a CEO who was taking care of me, right, 46 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: he was, you know, holding me down, and he could 47 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: have snucked me weed. He could have snucked me liquor. 48 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: He could have snucked me books. But I wanted that 49 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: criminal mind. This is real ship. This is you know, 50 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: how much of a big caress fan. That's what the 51 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: track I wanted to do is. I'm the biggest caress 52 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: One fan. Man, Let's just make some noise for him 53 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: being in the building. Come on, come on, come on, cheers, cheers, yo, yo, 54 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: we got the fun up noise. Make it so blast 55 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: master caress One. How does it feel to be in Miami? 56 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: How long you've been coming out here? Man? Don't even yo, man, 57 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I've been coming to Miami since like eighties seven. We 58 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: were coming up here, man, struggling, trying to be heard, 59 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: and there was only a few places that actually like 60 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: embraced us. Philly was always right there. Philly feel it Delfy, 61 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: just the whole Philly that like, we went from New 62 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: York to Philly. That so let me stop. So you 63 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: think that New York artist is that like the first marketing? 64 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: That's that is for me to like, Philly was the first, 65 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: then Connecticut and and see you look how you said 66 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: that Philly was the next, and then Connecticut. Connecticut is 67 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: right on top, right there next to the Bronx. Philly 68 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: would get it first. Philly would hit you first if 69 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: you did New York and Philly, Connecticut yonkers all up, 70 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Boston was trying to see you. Maybe some of the 71 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: South like that. So going down to a nine five 72 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: man was like, I mean big up to v a 73 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: North catallax South Carolina. It's it was sort of like 74 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the rights of passage. You had to get out of 75 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: New York, go down each city, each state or nine five, 76 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: and your final victory was Miami if you made it 77 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: down man, See this is one MCS was real. Uh 78 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: straight up, you have to do clubs. Let me take 79 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: you to the nine Let's come around ninety two, that's 80 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: what I'm Somewhere around nineties, right around the college was 81 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: just start and he had a thing called the Temple 82 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: and even before that, even before that, Oh yeah, mother Superior. 83 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, actually I got you know what nerd 84 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: war is. No, he's this guy who interviews people. He 85 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: brings out props that would remind you of stuff. We're okay, 86 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: this is what I got. Let's make some noise. Having 87 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: autographed too, it's authentic, so you put that on. It 88 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: was a show supposed to be at the Spot underground 89 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: compound and it got shut down by the cops and 90 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: we moved it to Zulu headquarters. There was no that 91 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: a c wasn't on. He took the people were faking 92 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: in the eyes and he started throwing these balls. That 93 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: was crazy. That was ninety three. I was in high 94 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: school at the least at the least. Right, well, let's 95 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: started right there. That's way he's been coming to Miami 96 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: since then, since then, breaking it down, crushing Miami. And 97 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't the hip hop scene out here back then. 98 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Back then Luke was the man out here. Two Live 99 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Crew was straight destroy in the South, like there was 100 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: nothing else really happened, to be honest with you, But 101 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: there was always that boom bap element in in. I 102 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: mean just I just have to say Florida, because you 103 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: know from Miami all the way up to what Tallahassee, 104 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: even even Gainesville, Jacksonville, all that's boom bap that that's 105 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: a hardcore up there. But Luke, But there was that 106 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: divided for us in the city between the base scene 107 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: and scene. That's right, There wasn't divide. I mean it 108 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: had its own audience, you know what I'm saying. It 109 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: had its own We've seen a lot as a New 110 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: York thing, right, but we were trying to build that 111 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: identity for ourselves. But I think it was way smaller. 112 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: But I think the New York thing was way smaller. 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Two Live Crew. Look look that whole sound. So you're 114 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: saying from the beginning when Two Live Crew came, the 115 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: South immediately accepted them as opposed to new in New York, 116 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: you had to be hot in New York. No, actually, 117 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: you go to Philly. Wait a minute, the second part 118 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: is true. Yes, you had to be hot in New 119 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: York first to go to Philly. With the exception of 120 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: like Tap Money three times, Dobe Uh, Steady b even 121 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: Jazzy Jeff Fresh, Prince Uh, they blew up in Philly 122 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: and convinced New York what it was. But you have 123 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: um back then, the base scenes. I'm trying to think 124 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: of dudes that were not so popular, but Miami had 125 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: a base scene that let me and then with these 126 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: dudes with so Luther Campbell and Two Live Crew was 127 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: on top of that, they came up out of that scene. 128 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: They didn't really invent it, but they was just sort 129 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: of the pot feel the ones that that was doing it, 130 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: and Luke was just I went to one of these 131 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: concerts one night. You know, you wouldn't believe what was 132 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: going on. And then on top of that, what makes 133 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: it really really hip hop on on on that level 134 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: is that Two Live Crew was was the ones that 135 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: were dragged into court on obscenity charges and had they 136 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: lost that case, Rock would be sounding a whole lot. 137 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: Let's make some noise for that happening. Even when you're 138 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: rolling the blunt man, stop and clap your hands. You 139 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: had the black mass in the building, right, So, UM, 140 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: you got that, you got that that thing, and I 141 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: want to set up I play that play that real quick. 142 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: I want to play something for you. One of the 143 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: one of the greatest calls I ever got in my life. 144 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: And um, it's set up past. It's Cool Hurt. What's up, brother, 145 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: That's right, My brother was going on. Man, I just 146 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: missed your call. Man, Man, I got you on speaking 147 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: for him right now. Man, let them Let them dudes know. Baby, 148 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: let the dudes. No, you're the Gulf for the hip hop. 149 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: Cool Hurt number one. That's right, baby, you're the original 150 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: o G. That's right. Baby. You know I love you absolutely. 151 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: You know I love you to death. Cool Hirk Man, 152 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Not in w all right, baby, 153 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna take this off of this SI 154 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: for me. You can speak private, but yo, man, just 155 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: let the people know one more time. This is my 156 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: Dyslexia album. Man, tell them niggas. You know what I mean. 157 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: Where I got an album called Dyslexia? Man, thank you man. 158 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: This this, this is the Godfather, Cool Hurt or the 159 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: game speaking to your fucking assholes. Cool Hurt right here. 160 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 1: And I'm the father and not the godfather. Secondary you 161 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: the father the father? All right? My brother hold on, 162 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: hit you right back? I Hurt, all right, hold on, 163 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. So one day I got a 164 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: call from cool Hurd, right, which is for me. I'm 165 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: a real hip hop guy. You know what I'm saying. 166 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: I respect everything that came before me. And when Cool 167 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Hurd called me, I had called him something. I said, 168 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: you're the godfather of hip hop. And I said it 169 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: once and he let it slide. And then I said 170 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: it again and he let it slide. But then the 171 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: third time I said it, I said, Cool, let these 172 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: motherfucker's no, you know, uh godfather hip hop? He said, Normy, 173 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: hold on, let me stop you. I am the father. 174 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: Do you agree with that statement? Yes, I totally agree 175 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: with the statement. There's there's huge debate on it, okay, 176 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: because everyone wants to take credit for hip hop now 177 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: for its origins. Uh, we call technically to be scholarly correct. 178 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Cool Hark is called the recognized father of hip hop, 179 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: the recognized father of hip hop. We call him the 180 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: father of hip hop. And the reason we call him 181 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: the father of hip hop is because Bam called him 182 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: the father of hip hop. Grandmaster has called him the 183 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: father of hip hop. Peewee Dance and Grandmaster Flash from 184 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: this group and Crazy Legs called him the father of 185 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: hip hop. Now, this is a family situation. All these guys, 186 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: we all know each other and they know it, but 187 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: you're there, younger home. Oh yes, no doubt, no doubt. 188 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Her calls me the son of hip hop because okay, 189 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: let me break it down for me, right for me, 190 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: alright for me. When I heard her say that he 191 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: was the father, automatically saluted that never and then I 192 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: thought of Bambada as the godfather, and then I think 193 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: view Rock Kim, Big Daddy Kane as the father's right 194 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: and then then after that comes Wu Tang like where 195 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: are your little cousins, Wu Tang, marb Deep the fat, 196 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Joe's the component, Noriega's the MLP. We're actually your son's 197 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: direct like I don't know what Paul's I know this 198 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: new generation, but you're actually our fathers like you Rock Kim, 199 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: Big Daddy Kane. And so I have to ask this 200 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: question with that being said, with the name being like, 201 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: how how is hip hop supposed to respond to the Bambada? 202 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: Like how are we supposed to do that? From? I 203 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: just don't know. That's why it's a generic question, which 204 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: what what should we do? Because you're you're being our father. 205 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: Whatever you say, I have to move accordance to it. Well, 206 00:12:54,200 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, with the first of all, controversy is not truth. 207 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: What you want is truth right now? You want truth, 208 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: But truth is also not information. It's not gossip. It's 209 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: not even conversation. For me, if you keep it hip hop, 210 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: nothing could be taken away from Africa ban not just 211 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: keep it hip hop, but if you want to dig 212 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: in the dude's personal life and accusations it is being 213 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: made and so on. Personally me personally, I don't give 214 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: a fuck. Personally. Look if if somebody was harmed or 215 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: whatever was done, whatever, y'all deal with that ship what 216 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: what deal with it? That? Don't stop hip hop? That 217 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: don't stop with take away under history's history, but deal 218 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: with you deal with that. That's personal. I don't you know, 219 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to sell past. You know, 220 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: but even if you knew the facts, you know what 221 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. A person like me, I deal with with 222 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: dudes that are questionable all the time, not just if 223 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: the accusation is right. I do I know dudes that 224 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: are doing You know what I'm saying. If you if 225 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: you know anybody from prison, if you don't nothing to shout, 226 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: you know anybody, if you live really in the hoods, 227 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: you know shooters, you know, dudes running from the you 228 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: know your man might have an open warrant on him 229 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: right now, like right now, like you know what I'm saying. 230 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not judging these motherfucker's man, that's right here, Yo, 231 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: that's it now. What you do and your crime and 232 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: your ship and your bullshit, whatever you're doing, that's on you. 233 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: That's you, my g that's whatever you're doing. That's how 234 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I always dealt with it. I can't pick and choose. Hey, yo, 235 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: this dude right here, I mean I was producing Justice album, 236 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: right Who's crazy already came to Queen's Bridge by himself? 237 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Yes it is. Let's make some just like every change 238 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: the subject too. I was talking, let's say the subject, 239 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,359 Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, but I mean he was on America's 240 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: Most Wanted is. Let's make this is real hip This 241 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: is real hip hop, shot man. Hip hop is in 242 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: the world like everybody else, like every other culture. We 243 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: in the world, politicians with bottom line is we we 244 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: are humans. That humans, all humans. But now with that 245 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: being said, right, what is your favorite MC battle Because 246 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean you don't have to, you can do with 247 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: yourself if you want to. But what is your favorite 248 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: MC battle. To be honest with you, I mean, there's 249 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: a lot this huge that I really what comes to 250 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: the top of your head. The first one that comes 251 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: to my head is freeway in cassidy for me. Let's 252 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: make some noise, but caress one. No one's going on. 253 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what's going on in the streets? No, No, 254 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: that that's I mean, it's an old battle. But if 255 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: you talk about showmanship, you know, instant rhymes on deck 256 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: right there? That was hot? Okay, um, I gotta ask 257 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: you about what's up? What what? How did you like? 258 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: What did you like? It was it? It isn't your 259 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: even battles? I think I think it gave both of 260 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: them credibility and what wait? Well, because for me as 261 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: an m C, like like when people say top five, okay, 262 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: everybody got their top five. Everybody, you know what I'm saying. 263 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: But if you ain't battle, if you ain't did tours, 264 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: if you ain't putting no hits out, if you ain't 265 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: put somebody else on or came from a legacy that 266 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: was wild, you ain't even nowhere near the top five. So, dudes, 267 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: is like, I'm looking for young cats today to really 268 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: rise up to the criteria. First, first, with your battle 269 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: you say you dope, bring it right now, because his 270 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: nigg is like me out here, like straight up, I 271 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: stay hung okay, stay hungry. You claim you hungry, you 272 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: claim who you know, I'm the man, I'm I'm in 273 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: this and now today with social media, you could claim 274 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: anything and everybody. So with Draking Mills, to me, it 275 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: gave them the credibility that they needed for even me 276 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: to look at them as real mcs. I like both 277 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: of the lyrics. By the way, Drake. I think it's 278 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: underrated in terms of because maybe he's doing the pop 279 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: thing or whatever, but his lyrics is still dope from 280 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: a MC perspective. No let me, I don't. I don't 281 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: want to cut you off. But there's been allegations that 282 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: he had help on his lyrics. You writers, you, how 283 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: do you feel like this? I'm very curious that this 284 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: look because but because you do come from a day 285 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: where people are by um writing bismarck lyrics. This Mark 286 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: was upfront about it. Ice Cube said, um he's he 287 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: said ice Cube the rhymes that I say, and to me, 288 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: he was one of the most So how did you 289 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: feel when you found out that Drake might have had 290 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: some help. Was that doesn't disturb me at all. It 291 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: diminishes him in front of those that write their own lyrics. Okay, now, 292 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: those of us to split the raw from our own heart. 293 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: You you really got to step up and come up 294 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: to the plate on that level. But we're talking about 295 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: m C and as a whole art. Talk about rappers 296 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: a whole art. No, if you got a dope writer 297 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: that can make you sound like something, got ahead and 298 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: get with dude. The issue is writing. This is the 299 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: issue writing. Don't rhymes. I don't give a funk where 300 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: it comes from. Writer whoever. Some of the dopest dudes, 301 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna call no names rhymes. You said, Yo, 302 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: it's like this secrets in hip. Okay, his news that 303 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: dude right for them, that's not a problem. Not me. 304 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: I never had the privilege of anyone writing for me. Okay, 305 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I I you know you're too smart. Let me tell you. 306 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: Let me tell you. If Rock Kim came to me 307 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: with a rahm, I say that ship this is crazy. 308 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: I say that this is crazy. I need to believed. 309 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: You have to listen. Drake sent me to check. I 310 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: have just saved just saved you. You are that cool 311 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: in every community drinking k r S has set it 312 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: on a drink Chess podcast that he's okay. No, I'm okay. 313 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: Look not it real spinn is it right? They rhymes? 314 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: It will never be okay with real spins it right there? Okay, 315 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: but that's our lane, that's our category. That's a level 316 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: of excellence that you have to get to. Okay, now, 317 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: but my issue is right, Look, here's the opposite. Some 318 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: dude write your rhymes and they whack and you say 319 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: them ships and way I heard dude say what ROMs 320 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: that they didn't even right. That's corny, Okay, but if 321 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: you got a real shooter with you, dude, it's right 322 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: and raw ship. We'll make sure he paid a brother, 323 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: make sure he gets some credit at some point in 324 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: your career. Let's say that ship, say that dope ship. 325 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: Hip hop needs dope lyrics. We don't need dope. Mcs understand, 326 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: we need dope lyrics. We need to write. I don't 327 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: care where it comes from. Your mom's could write you 328 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: some ship. That ship is dope right, most lyrics, you're saying, 329 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: it's the vessel. It's just about mcs all the vessel. Look, 330 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: if you really get down to it, I don't write 331 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: my own lyrics. God writes my lyrics, goddamnit. So if 332 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: you think about it, none of us are writing our 333 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: own lyrics. We all any m C that writes his lyrics. 334 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: You know, you're sitting there with the pen, the pad 335 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: or whatever, your phone, whatever it is, and you hum 336 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: your ship out. You hear that ship from someplace else. 337 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: You're like criminal man and dj is don't even start 338 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: with that. You as producers, you hear the beats before 339 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: you hit the thing. You know what you're gonna do, 340 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: before you do it. You hum it out, you bang 341 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: it out, but you hear something. So no one is original, 342 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: No art is original. We are all being influenced by 343 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: everything and everyone. The corny motherfucker is the one who 344 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: doesn't say, yo, my g wrote this. Give it three years, 345 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: four years. You know you made some success after you 346 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: got on spicking man. Acknowledge, acknowledge your dude, man, Yo, 347 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: this is what it is. Hit him with his cash. 348 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: You he know, you know he helped you get what 349 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: You gotta go. Hit him with his cash. Make sure 350 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: he's good and his family is good. That's respecting hip hop. 351 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: That's big respect now in this day, Like a lot 352 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: of the o G s, they'll sit back and they'll 353 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: be like, you know, I don't like this. Do you 354 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: listen to what's going on now? Or you know they 355 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: had their chance, they're over, They're finished that they had 356 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: their chances. That ship is over. That's just funk. All 357 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: that old school show, all that's just done. You do 358 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: listen to the new school. Yeah, I listened to everything. Okay, 359 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: I listen to everything. Okay. I was just with my 360 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: man l A. Sunshine. He put a book out. He 361 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: was just kicking it up in the Bronx. That's my 362 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: G right there, Komo D that's my G. Busy b 363 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: no doubt. These are my dogs, no doubt. But let 364 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: me let me let me see Joey Badass right now, 365 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: let me see you know. Um yeah, you know what 366 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like I don't want to call names, 367 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying let me just you know, but no, 368 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: I listened to every thing. Man. Yeah, I really appreciate 369 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: um you having that attitude because now I am They 370 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: called me a o G. Now thirty years you know, 371 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: hip hop was born and what Yeah, seventy three. I 372 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: was born in seventy seven. So now they're calling me 373 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: a O G and I want to sit back and 374 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: I want to give back to this life. So we 375 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: we were doing this podcast. I want to get people 376 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: like you a platform to say whatever the funk you 377 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: want to see any time. You know, it's okay, we 378 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: don't get, we don't care, get another drink. So this 379 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: has been one of my um uh accomplishments in life. 380 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, people got bucket list. You know, You've always 381 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: been a person that I've learned from, Like, whether you 382 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: know it direct or indirect. You ain't even asked me 383 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: to pass the blank some foul people, but it's okay, 384 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I understand from kindle, so I'm not looking so you directly, 385 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: you directly. Somebody said to me the other day. It 386 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: said Jay Z and Jay the Kiss raised me with 387 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: their bars and they fucked me up because I was like, 388 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: damn well. Then I always told people if you take 389 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: care ress one and then you take a little bit 390 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: of bis markey and a little bit of Granddaddy are you, 391 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: that's when you get in all. But you noticed I 392 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: never took none of your styles. But I was as yeah, 393 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: that's that's three totally different people. But that's who made 394 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: me because you taught me that black is beautiful and 395 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: be yourself. BIS taught me. BIS taught me life Ain't 396 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: that serious, homie, have some fun. And then Granddaddy you 397 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: told me how to be exact opposite of him because 398 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: he was so smooth, Like I feel like Granddaddy you 399 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: was like the cane that never I'm gonna take it. 400 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: My first interview ever smoking, you know, big up hockey 401 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: in Green. My brother, my brother. Another legend is in 402 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the building. Swark matters and let's just get into that. Man, 403 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: How did swark maddism come about? Damn Well, first of all, 404 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: Hawk was a was a school teacher. No, I did 405 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: never knew that let's make some noise to school with 406 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: the teacher. Okay with the teacher. So he was one 407 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: of the many teachers and professors I was rolling with 408 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: about ninety three. Hot rolled up and said, yo, So 409 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: I took he kept coming to my lectures. I was 410 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: doing lectures around, so he kept coming to the lectures. 411 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: So I said, you know, you look like you am sick. 412 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: It look like you know you get that back there. Yeah, 413 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: you just started that's rights and I said, you know, 414 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: you look like an m C. He was like, why 415 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: how did you so make a long story shot? I 416 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: heard him. I loved it, but I said, that's solo MC. 417 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: Thing not gonna work. We need two people. This is 418 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: like das Effects was hitting nice and smooth. They were 419 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: signed to Yes, well technically to to my wife Simone 420 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: was running Front Page Records. Technically k Arrest was with 421 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: the label Channel Live Mad lion Um for a minute, 422 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: even Fat Joe. But but we was closing the label 423 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: at at the closing the company, the management company at 424 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: the time when Joe just started to blow, We was 425 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: just coming down on on on that level, same thing 426 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: with excuse me, priz and and no not before they 427 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: would have oh yeah, actually the refugees, it was just 428 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Prize and to sign yes we we We did some 429 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: of their first shows, you know for no note no 430 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: that was no no, no. We wasn't in no position 431 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: whatsoever to deal with them. They they you can white 432 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Coulf used to pull out a guitar. He still does 433 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: it in the middle of it. He still doesn't. He's 434 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: just started out like you know, it was like you know, 435 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: you got ahead and uh, but but it was dope. 436 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: So anyway, we got in the studio, and you know, 437 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I grew up in a herb culture. You know what 438 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I grew up in Flatbush, Brooklyn Church Havnue 439 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: right there and he Rasmus High School, wing Gate High School, 440 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: shout out to Prospect, the whole nine. So I grew 441 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: up there in the seventies when you were born seventies, 442 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: I was in the parks. Memory. The reason we went 443 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, and you're trying to get is that's going 444 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: on our game. So there we was in Flatbush. So 445 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: I grew up in in in herb culture and not 446 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: from the point of view like are we just gonna 447 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: smoke mud. I was with with Rosters and the Ethiopian 448 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Orthodox Church. We had the Bible open. Dudes was smoking 449 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: towards the east. Childie burned down roam. Every time the 450 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: child is burned, you had to say, yo. We was 451 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: like in that culture for real. So it was like 452 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: I grew up with like no problem, like yo burned apart. 453 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Why does no big deal? One moved up to the 454 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Bronx when I became homeless like an one or two. 455 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: So that story is true. Oh yeah, no doubt about 456 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: four years. That's how I met Scott Larrock. Uh he 457 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: was a social worker in the shelter. But we'll get 458 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: back to that. Uh. So I grew up in the culture. 459 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: So for me, Peter Toash since nineteen seventy one was 460 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: yelling for the legalization of marijuana. Since seventy one. Everybody 461 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: know that. You know, the judges are smoking, the cops smoke. 462 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: The doctor's been saying, this is the safest plant. In fact, 463 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: this is the healing of the nation right here, all times, kancers, 464 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: you name it, herb is the healing for that. But 465 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: now you got this tax issue, and you got this 466 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: dudes that don't want to give up their power. They 467 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: get more money and more power selling it illegally. You 468 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: don't you really don't want the government selling weed. You 469 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: really don't want that because the idea is that it's 470 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: gonna get whacked. It's like whatever the government put they 471 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: they can't even teach English correctly, like you know what 472 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like anything that the government puts his hand into, 473 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: it starts to get sterile, it starts to get waged. 474 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: You don't have no complication wordered down. So dude is like, no, 475 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: we want to grow that ship right there in Mexico, 476 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: right there in Afghanistan, right there up in and now Colorado, Seattle. 477 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: They just went rogue with it and just said, you 478 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: know what, We're just gonna do it. And I think 479 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: it was done for the kids in the area because 480 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: they're not locking their kids up, you know what I'm saying. 481 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: They're not gonna do that. They rather change the laws 482 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: than see their kids in the family go through that. 483 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: That's why I think it really got legalized. You could 484 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: cite medical lists or medical that, but really it's it's 485 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: a it's an issue of going to prison. Families have 486 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: been ruined by just smoking a joint or having herb 487 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: on you. This is a plant that grows and in 488 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: the world. Like how is the government like even allowed 489 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: to tell you how you should think? Like that's to begin, 490 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: Like like if I smoke button, I'm like, yeah, I 491 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: feel great on this. Why are you telling me? I 492 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: don't like like like the use of the word nigga 493 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: for instance, same ship, that's my nigga right there. I 494 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, nigga, I got three pH d s. Nigga, 495 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: I write books, nigga, what I know, what the funk 496 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But now, black people ain't supposed the thing. 497 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have governance over our own mouth, 498 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: over our own thinking. So if I tell you, listen, 499 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: when I say my nigga, I'm talking really mean my brother. 500 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: Listen to how I say it, my nigger, that's my 501 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: brother right there. Now, I just told you what it is. 502 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: The problem is there's no law in the United States 503 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: made by black people that white people are bound to respect. 504 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Imagine we follow all a laws, what lord they follow 505 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: of ours? There's no Latino brother to kings. I said, look, 506 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: this is what helps Latino people. Right here, y'all gonna fight. 507 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: We want black whits everybody. You're gonna follow our laws. 508 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: We we follow the Constitution, Should we follow state ordinances? 509 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: All that's white law. But here's now the Native American 510 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: law while we're not. Nah, this country is not built 511 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: on following anybody else's law except their own. And when 512 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: it comes to marijuana, it becomes an issue of freedom 513 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: of thought, like this is how I think. Do you 514 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: have the right to tell me what state of mind 515 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: I should be into? Like, no, this is the state 516 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: of mind that I feel I should be. And as 517 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the U. S Constitution, it's federal 518 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: law to be happy in the United States, the pursuit 519 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So if 520 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: you get happiness, that's illegal. If you're sad and depressed 521 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: in the US, you broke federal law. Wow, you broke 522 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: federal law. The government should be doing. The Constitution and 523 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: the Declaration of Independence. The spirit of it is all 524 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: about liberty, justice, freedom, happiness for all. The pursuit of 525 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: happiness is law. Welcome to Play, a new podcast network 526 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, 527 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: and more. Play it at play dot In We're back 528 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then, 529 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna change it up real quick. Come on 530 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: a crazy hip hop story. As you went to the 531 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: Palladium and you threw P M. Dawn off the stage, 532 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: I gotta get this story. Let's make some noise, but 533 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: I gotta story. Yo. That's when, like you, you've been 534 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: my hero. But like it's like that's when I made 535 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: my choice from Malcolm and Martin. It was like Martin, 536 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: like I still think Mary was killing people at night 537 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: when he went like I think he still think Marrow 538 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: was a shoot up, Like I still in my heart, 539 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: in my heart. But but Malcolm, Malcolm was like, straight up, 540 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot you back. So when Chris, I'm very 541 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm honored. So I felt like the 542 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: minute you threw p M down on stage is like, yes, 543 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: he could teach me and he'll still that's exactly what 544 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: I wanted. That's makes it. So what did he do 545 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: for you to throw him off the stage? I never 546 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: really got that part of the story. Well, if you 547 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: want the scholarly approach, approach, Okay, so dude, stop mouthing 548 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: off in Details magazine. Okay, now this is now, this 549 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: is the mood that we're in around this time. I 550 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: think we'll I forgot what year. This was nineties nine? No, no, no, oh, no, 551 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: it was Kay, it's ninety two and it wasn't The 552 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: Palladium was like, no, it was a small club in Manhattan. 553 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. It was one of the clubs 554 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: that have like like car wash was it wasn't. That 555 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: wasn't the name of the place. That's just the name 556 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: of the night. The night right, it was it sound fast, 557 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: so sound factory. Okay, wait a minute, now here's the 558 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: mood of it. Ninety two Okay, around the time, this 559 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: is when, like you said, knowledge was just hitting hip hop. 560 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: Hip hop was some ignorant as ship. Okay. Of course 561 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: you did have run DMC, you had Houdini, you had 562 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: those who were actually rocking on on a supposedly more 563 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: intelligent level, especially run DMC with it's like that, and 564 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: and all types of record societies got to salute you 565 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 1: in the interview. Just do that. You know what I'm saying. 566 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: First of all, you know, that's who the viewer is 567 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: to know someone is drinking of my time and drink. 568 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: If you have traveled, you probably don't know where the 569 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: funking my tie is. Okay, so this is you have. 570 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: This is a Hawaii drink. People like, do you continue 571 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: to drink? That's how you know making money for long? 572 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't Tahiti or something. I mean, I'm with this ship, yes, yes, yes, 573 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: thank you for thank you for coming again, thanks for 574 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: opening your dog. Okay. So anyway, so anyway, so so 575 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: the mood and nothing by the but I'm I'm good, 576 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you later on. Look this this move 577 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: this time is when I had just put out you 578 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: must learn to stop the violence movement? Why is that? 579 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: And then what's what's the joint? What's the joint? He 580 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: got out? I don't know why. Why did he let 581 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: well it wasn't just me, but he did say he 582 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: tested more. Yes, ok. In his Details magazine he had 583 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: said something pertaining to the fact. He said, n w 584 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: A is nothing. Chuck d is making mountains out of 585 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: mole hills, and careis one is kiss. One wants to 586 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: be a teacher, but a teacher of what? And for 587 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: me it matter for me. But Chuck at the time 588 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: was receiving death threats because of the controversy with Griff Griffin, 589 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: the Jewish comments. Griffin made a statement, so public Enemy 590 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 1: was the real heat in America. Okay, and this dude 591 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: just sold like a million records, so he had a 592 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: really good year, you know, selling records. So he's just 593 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: mouthing off like it's our time now these with these dudes, 594 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: and you know these dudes is over. N w A 595 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: ain't nothing, Chuck, the public Enemy ain't saying nothing. Arrest this. 596 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: So I let it go for a minute. So this 597 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: this was like over months. This is like the first 598 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: no no, no no, no, this is over a period. And 599 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: it wasn't just him. So I had also a little 600 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: running with X Clan around the same time. Me and 601 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: X Clan, We're going back and forth with I mean, 602 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: brother Jay was you know, calling me Captain human and 603 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: that's the other well it wasn't that wasn't directed to, 604 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,479 Speaker 1: but it was them. Yeah, and if and if you're 605 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: battling me even maybe it was so there was ex 606 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: claim Bam chilled it all out back then, right, so 607 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: he cooled it all out. We had a press conference 608 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: and just kissed it made up. That was into that. 609 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: But there were others dudes in the hood. They for 610 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: some reason, they felt people felt that if you come 611 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: out advocating peace, knowledge, wisdom, I was coming with you 612 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: that somehow we're supposed to be soft for somehow, well 613 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna run up or I don't know what it was. 614 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: And I was naive because all my dudes was straight gangsters. 615 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: Like I'm talking about, I'm trying to take dudes off 616 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: the street, convince them, yo, we can go on tour. Man, 617 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna do this. You ain't gonna do that. 618 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: And dudes is like, Yo, if you can show me 619 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: another way out of here, we could do this. So 620 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to take these dudes and we're trying to 621 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: leave the hood. Okay, we're trying to be positive. We 622 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: got to stop the violence this movement and PM and 623 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 1: he is too calm. Yeah, okay, arrestient shot but bahbah 624 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: bahba he just got finished with X clan with that 625 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: um lynch mob had made a statement ice que self destruction, 626 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: don't pay the fucking or this is after something something, 627 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: this is after all, this is what it is stuff 628 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: noise for him. You gonna we're gonna stop. And so 629 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: for some reason they thought it was so in my 630 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: corner and so PM doing is not from New York? Correct, No, 631 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: what is he? No? I don't know what that was. 632 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: So I want to know what did you say something 633 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: to him or just no, no, no, no happened? No, no, no, 634 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: this is what happened. He so he made his allegation, 635 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: and he made some other allegation on the radio or 636 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: something like that about he was ready to battle or 637 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: something or some kind of lyrical something. So I was like, great, 638 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: let's just take it right there and and leave it there. 639 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: You called my name out, What I got to do 640 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: with you? I'm doing my own thing over here. But 641 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: he was riding a wave that was saying that groups 642 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: like nWay, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, they bullshit, and 643 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: we ship right hood dudes is bullshit. This is the 644 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: new ship. And so there was a big party for 645 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: Tea Money back in the day's Tea Money was at 646 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: your MTV raps host with Ed Love and Doctor big 647 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: party in in New York. Everybody in the industry was there, 648 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: which is why we had two chances he was gonna 649 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: play in somewhere he was he was gonna play with 650 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: his own show. He was gonna even go there, or 651 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: we could go right here to Manhattan where it was popping. 652 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: And we said, you know what, let's do Manhattan because 653 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: the industry is there. This is Tea Money's birthday party. 654 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: We said, you know what, let's set it straight real quick. 655 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: Right there. A couple other dudes was in the They 656 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: was called your kay arrest, ain't share what the fun that. 657 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,479 Speaker 1: They went in the crowd too. So when I got there, 658 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: we were so amp like we was just so and 659 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: when I say we are again. I don't want to 660 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: call no names and put nobody on, but you know, 661 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: just the color of the story and give you some 662 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: background on it. So it was me, there was justice, 663 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: Queen Latifa. Blatifa had her crew, naughty by nature, naughty 664 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: had they crew because he did naughty? And and them too, 665 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: and them too well, no, no, no, it was just 666 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: they were just there with me. This is the early 667 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: days of flavoring, and this is this is the only 668 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: days early Okay, they all kitty like, yo, when do 669 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: we go? Oh? So you set it up? You know. 670 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. I don't know if 671 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: you know that is a trend now when a person 672 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: has a beef with somebody, they booked them for a 673 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: show and then when the person they come out, they'll 674 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: do one or two songs and then the bum rushed 675 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: the ship. But you set that trend. I don't know 676 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: if you know that. Well, you know what, I don't 677 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: know if we didn't mean to, but you set the trend. 678 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: Let's make them knowing. Look, he so we went up. 679 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: It wasn't a set up in the sense that we 680 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: knew we were gonna go there, but we knew we 681 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: had two choices and it was like the day before, 682 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: so we chose this one. So did you actually talk 683 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: to him prior to no, No, no, you just waited 684 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: for him, just waiting for As a matter of fact, 685 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: the word had gotten out because I said, Yo, I'm 686 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: here the battle. It wasn't about throwing nobody off stage 687 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: because I'm still stop the violence. Yeah, that's why it 688 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: was a controversial. It was so when I jumped up, 689 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: what happened was I think one of his boys or something. 690 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: He had a little crew with hit me somebody with him. 691 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,959 Speaker 1: So when we jumped on stage, I remember super Cat. 692 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: I can't even man, super Cat. He said, Chris, let 693 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 1: me go on first month. Let me go on first. 694 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: Before you do that, let me one first. I was 695 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: like yo, and Cat went on, he did his thing. 696 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: Then p M Down went on. We let him get 697 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: through one song, and then we all jumped on the stage. 698 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, let's battle. Let's get it popping right now. 699 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: So the whole crowd was like, oh, let's go. But 700 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: something happened is man, somebody jumped out. It was like 701 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: funk that I was trying to do some ship. It 702 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: was like funk that we would all shoot this my 703 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: naked that threw them nikes off the stage. That's what 704 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: he wants that. No, it's not Troy. I just did 705 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,959 Speaker 1: that to I love Mechannon in New York. In New York. 706 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: This is a fact. I love, I love, I love 707 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: mccannon like I love for Troy A. But when it happened, 708 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: didn't met about this. Now you are so Immediately when 709 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: I seen it, I said, this is I don't even 710 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: think Troy. I have know that this originated from that 711 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: very moment. Like if you disrespect and you come to 712 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: the person town, you are liable to go off the 713 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: stage and drinks is liable to throw at you, and 714 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: you are allowed to feel uncomfortable. You started that trend, 715 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: and I applaud you for that, sir. Come on one 716 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: more time, everybody but Bill. Being that we're on the 717 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: topic of self destruction, stop the violence. One thing that 718 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 1: I've always wondered, why do you think that we haven't 719 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: been able to recreate those movements in hip hop? Because 720 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: when that came out and um, we're on the same 721 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: game came out those records, they were cool to the 722 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: youth at the time. When we love those records, we 723 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: knew the lyrics. I know you've been doing, you've done, 724 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: You've continued to do those records, but they haven't touched 725 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: the pulse of the youth. Amore. No, hip hop is 726 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,959 Speaker 1: not conscious, Okay, Like people gotta understand that hip hop 727 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: it's raw essence. That ship has gotta ghetto. Hip hop 728 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: is ignorant. Okay, that ship is. I'm that and it's core. 729 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: That ship is raw ignorance, man, just straight up. But 730 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: all the best things come out of that ship. Okay, 731 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: the darkness, that's where the best ship comes from. Out 732 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: of this ship. Look, it takes feces to make things grow. 733 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: All were eating is ship. It's the most honest. So 734 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: that's why I say go back to the movement when 735 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: we did those records, stop the violence and self destruction. 736 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: Look at the dudes that we're doing them. Those were 737 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: street Okay, that's why, right, But now we all them 738 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: dudes got shot up and went to jail. Nobody there's 739 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: no one else, like maybe some younger kids today or 740 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: maybe some of the younger artists today, if they care 741 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: about they come. You see, when we were coming up 742 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: with gangs and excuse me, a cruise and stuff like that, 743 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 1: we we cared about the community still, like we would 744 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: still smack a young kid up and be like, Yo, 745 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: you better go to school, motherfucker. I know your mom's 746 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You would still get gangs 747 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: like that. Today it's too individualistic, even due to a 748 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: real gangsters. They're not really in the hood. They do 749 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: they gangster on the phone. They pushing their thing through 750 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: twitterfferent mediums. Now, we didn't have none of this ship 751 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: and we was coming up. I'm sorry to cut you off, 752 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 1: but you know what the crazy shi it is. I 753 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: just thought about it, like you know hip hop. We 754 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: got our own little version of chipland circuits, like when 755 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: you go so back then in the nineties, I'll say 756 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: in nineties, I had to go to Virginia, I had 757 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: to go to North Carolina. And when the dude told me, 758 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: y'all running the block, I had the choices. It was 759 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, not fifteen seconds on the internet, but it's 760 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds that I had to say I believe him, 761 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: fucking don't. We didn't have Instagram, like right now, dude, 762 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 1: be like, you know, I run to the town, check 763 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: my check them. That's don't fucking register with me, but 764 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because they'll have a picture 765 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: with like you know whoever is the popular popular people 766 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: at the time. But back then, in the nineties, I 767 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: had to go to a town and I had to 768 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: make a decision in fifteen seconds when the dude caught 769 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: me and foot locker and said, your Nori, I run 770 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: the town. Funk with me? And I had to start 771 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: with sometimes this guy's lying. They're good, but a lot 772 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: of the times they're official. You don't have time to 773 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: go look at nowadays google them. When I go to 774 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: a town. Now they'll be like, yo, go get what's 775 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: such and such? And I gotta look at this guy's Instagram. 776 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: But it was real up and and your generations before mine. 777 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: So how was that like? Just traveling the US back then? 778 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: You had to know people, man, you had to really know. 779 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: Like what you just said right there brought me back 780 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: to like, Okay, tell your story Iced Tea. Okay, this 781 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 1: is way backed Tea coming on the show. Shout out 782 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:17,760 Speaker 1: to Ic and Coco. This goes back to Darlene. Okay, 783 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: so first, this is first wife on the cover of 784 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: Iced Tea. This is the realest dude ever. Okay, I 785 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: don't know what y'all know about TV, and I don't 786 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: know what that ship is. Okay, But in the eighties, 787 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: ryme syndicate in l A. Okay, you had to know 788 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: these dudes or you wasn't playing. You say, you couldn't 789 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: even go. You couldn't even play, You couldn't even play. Date. 790 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: Today you can book shows, you know, live national book 791 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,959 Speaker 1: is all good. No, back then, it was only dudes 792 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,919 Speaker 1: were hustling. Did was booking rappers. So it was like 793 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: you know, and and and and it wasn't never no ship. 794 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: It was it was actually the time, we're always having 795 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: a good time. It's like we left all the guns, 796 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: all the all the the product, and she leave that 797 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: ship down. Let's just go to Latin Corns and have 798 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: a good time. Let's just go down to to you know, 799 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: the rooftop or or whatever fever or whatever. Everybody just 800 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: was like that. Everybody left their ship in the car 801 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: if there was any beef in the cup. You see 802 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: dudes running outside today ride and that's the ship would 803 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: pop off in this in the parking lot. But we 804 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: had to know people. You couldn't just be a rap. 805 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: There was so many rappers that were dope on the 806 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: mic and even had hit records. But they couldn't tour. 807 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 1: They couldn't travel, you know, because back then people were 808 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: still getting robbed for they change just the idea of 809 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: wearing a gold change. Well, you know what I'm saying. 810 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but look, I tell you this 811 00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: YouTube and it's for YouTube. It's for YouTube, you know, 812 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: MC search um you know, far the third base. These 813 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: were the only white dudes ever ever to walk in 814 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: Latin quarters with big Gold, the original last quarters, because 815 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: I went to Broadway. The original ladder quarters was Fort 816 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: Street in Broadway, across the street from Popeye's Chicken. We 817 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: used to eat that bullshit and go across the street 818 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: and tear that ship down. Nothing but hustlers and then nothing. 819 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: And if your rhymes was whack, you did not make 820 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: it out like you without insults or sneaking scheming on you, 821 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: or like you had to have security walk you out 822 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: like you. You know what I'm saying. And I took 823 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,439 Speaker 1: pride in that ship. I was like, fuck y'all, nakeds man, 824 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: get the ship in right now. And they just loved, 825 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: they loved my whole ship. And the point was was 826 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: that we were spending conscious ship we called the Real 827 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: Kality Rap. Yo. Man, funk these these cops, this court, 828 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 1: the ship we were going through fun the d A. 829 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: These motherfucker's are corrupt. Let's talk about the government. That 830 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: ship became Conscious rap all of a sudden in the nineties, 831 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: the titles switched and now, all of a sudden, we 832 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 1: were supposed to play this role of being conscious rappers 833 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: who didn't fight or argue, and this ship and it 834 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: was like, I never wrested, I'm wrestled. I never settled 835 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: this in my own career. You know me. I consider 836 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 1: myself a god man, straight up all about peace. But 837 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: this world the minute you say you're standing up for 838 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: justice and wisdom, these dudes want to try to see you. 839 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 1: And I love ship like that. I'm like, I'm God's 840 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: like worst. I'm sent here to make you think like, Yo, 841 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: that's that we know we can get that dude right there. 842 00:51:54,680 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, and ship changes in the come on, follow 843 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: me down here and then see the skirt on in 844 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: the skirt, come on down here, that's where I want 845 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: to go. Camera. How do you back? How did it 846 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: be start with shan originally? Man? Was it the record 847 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: or was it something on the side. I have to 848 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: notice for my own because you're my favorite rapper. I 849 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: don't know if you know that we wanted to. I 850 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: hated you when you did the Bridges. That's gotta be 851 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: clear with you. Let me tell you something. You made 852 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: any any killers and Queens, you made them, because I'm 853 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: just tell you because you said we didn't. It's a horrible, 854 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: it's a great, it's a great all day because you 855 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: know why we had on Rights Island at that time 856 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: was the toughest place. I mean, it was the hard 857 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: chorus place to go. And if you was from Queens, 858 00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: you would just walk by and people would be like 859 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,359 Speaker 1: Queens right. And I don't know if you know if 860 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,399 Speaker 1: you started this, but you said I didn't hear peek 861 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: from a place called Queens. And we had to fight 862 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: every each New y'all nicker, every ball snicker for nickers 863 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: to be like Queen's nickers is a fish like he 864 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: just took out Shan. Damn, I've rolder that wrong and 865 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: she sh don't. Don't don't blow me up, listen. I'm 866 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: just I'm just being honest. And at that time you 867 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: changed the face of hip hop because you single handedly. 868 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't need to know. How did this start? Was 869 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: it beef with Marley? Was it beef for Shan? Was 870 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: this this wackpool? A sneaker? What was it, Chris? To 871 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: make you go off like that? First off, we and 872 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: queens didn't know that was a South Bron. We didn't 873 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: know it was a North It was the Bron. So 874 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: when all right, so I need to notice this is 875 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: from my own history. How did they start? That's the 876 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: wall rest in peace to Mr Magic. Let me start right. 877 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: You don't care whether we smoke right now, come on, man, 878 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: come on um recipees to Mr Magic. Okay, straight up, 879 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: Now that's who started it. He started it, Magic, Mr Magic? 880 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: Down he rest in peace, Mash we wanted to be 881 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: down with the Juice Crew. Let's start right there. So 882 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,720 Speaker 1: and this is Molly mar This is Magic, okay, Magic 883 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: Magic was here. First of all, there was another Juice 884 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: Crew before Magic, the original Juice Crew. I was first. 885 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't know all of it. I think it was 886 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 1: Melly Mel. Yeah, this is Juice Crew. This Juice Crew 887 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: had a disco fee and they're the original Juice Crew. 888 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: Magic was part of that crew. Okay, so he kind 889 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: of took the name and the second generation came up, 890 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: which was us and so he named his crew the 891 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: Juice Crew. But he is the only one with the ring. 892 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: There was rings was like thirteen rings that were given 893 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: out for this Juice Crew because he was one of this. 894 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: He was one of these views with the ring. So 895 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: he made the think Juice cre with his man fly 896 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: tie as well. Ty was was big, you know with 897 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: UH promotion and marketing. So the idea was battles were 898 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: huge on the street anyway. If he was an m C, 899 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: he was always battling your man. He was always in 900 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: the ciphers fitting ship. So that's what it was. But 901 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: none of that was ever reflected in mainstream media and 902 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: Wrapped whatever run d m C. They was crushing ship, 903 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: but they were still you know, wrapping um. They were 904 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,479 Speaker 1: still like performers, you know. They It never was really 905 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 1: what it was on the street level. So we went 906 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,280 Speaker 1: to Magic. We wanted to be part of the Jewice screen. 907 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: We wanted to be produced by Molly maul okay. But 908 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: Magic was the Juice Crew. He's the one that put 909 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: everybody down. So Rock Sands Shante just came off of 910 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,439 Speaker 1: a battle with U. T. Fo nice battle. All these 911 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:18,439 Speaker 1: rock sands came out of that battle. Little sister Fast Team. 912 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: I went to school, continue rock Sand. She came out 913 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: U t f O nice battle. So mc shan came 914 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: out and this LU called him a beat bitter because 915 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,320 Speaker 1: the word on the street was the LL bit his 916 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: stop the can go, the didas the pumas and us 917 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: the track suit. And in a way you looked just 918 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: like L from her early days. If you look at 919 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: early LL, it was some kind of similarity. So l 920 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: I was mad about that, I guess and started going out. 921 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 1: I'm not L. I'm sorry. Shan was mad at that 922 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 1: and started going after L. L L never answer them, um, 923 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 1: but I did because Magic took our demo. So the 924 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: story goes, engineer told us this. We handed in our records, 925 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: two records criminal Minded and Elementary, oh and a record 926 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: called Advanced three records. We have got to advance three records. 927 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: We gave it to him. He said, Magic said this 928 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: is corny. No, we're not doing it, and supposedly flung 929 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: it into into garbage. We're not. This is an engineer 930 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: telling us. First of all, we couldn't even talk to Magic. Okay, 931 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: he was not huge. Okay, security, he was the man. Okay, 932 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: we couldn't even see. We handed up. We handed dude 933 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: the c D throw somebody through, somebody through somebody, and 934 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 1: the word got back your wick, get a body here. 935 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: So mind you, I'm homeless in the street. I'm riding 936 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: the train back and forth, the D train. Scott land 937 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: Rock is a social worker at the shelter. I get to, 938 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I'm at the shelter. Sometimes I'm not 939 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: me and just Stice was in the shelter together, so 940 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: some NICs we hang out all nights. Some nice we 941 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: get up. But Scott had to go to work every 942 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: day and worked there at that shelter. So we got 943 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: back and Scott was like, yo, they said it was 944 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: what my g I was like, Yo, why shan is 945 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: why how my ship? My ship ain't white. So I'm twenty, 946 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm cocky, I'm arrogant. I'm 947 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: already known in the Bronx. I'm a graffiti writer really 948 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: named k r Rest and I'm writing on the six 949 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: train and the five, the two and the five. We're 950 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: hitting the bus yards for the rod bus yards. So 951 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm already on my ship in the graffiti world, and 952 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 1: I was, I'm just throwing it out there. I was 953 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: on my ship, bomb and busses and trains and we 954 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: were trying to get into the wrap deal, hopefully to 955 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: get some money and get out the hood. They said 956 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: you why so I wrote, I was, I wrote the 957 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: Bridges over first, before the South, before the South Bronx. 958 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: I wrote the Bridges over because that was more my ship. 959 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: And I was on some reggae ship. So I was like, yo, 960 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: I used to listen to shine Head, actually was my inspiration, 961 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: shine Hand. I used to listen to shine Hand, Michigan 962 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: and Smiley yellow Man, Lieutenant Stitchy, Major Macro, Nija man On. 963 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: I used to blast all that. So he was like, see, 964 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Okay, So so it's like, so 965 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm listening to all that. But Scott was like First 966 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: of all, Scott started to get down in his spirit 967 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: because he had already shopped our music to everybody, and 968 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: they all turned us down. They said it was too 969 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: educated to preachy. You don't sound like the rappers out here. 970 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Because we were talking about nuclear a wall, the government. 971 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 1: This kind of day was like, na, I wrapped, don't 972 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: need I know about lutle nat because you I'm just 973 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: we want I'm just telling you that anyway. So we 974 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: was like, you know, nobody was gonna sign us. No, 975 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: no one wanted us. So I was like, you know what, 976 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: fuck it? I wrote the Bridges over. I said it 977 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: to Scott. Scott was like, nah, man, because nobody's gonna 978 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: gonna play that reggae ship. Nobody want to hear that ship. 979 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: They want to hear like run DMC and this. So 980 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: you're telling me the Bridges over was wrote before Shan 981 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: actually dropped the bridge. No bridge out, No, the bridge 982 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: was out, and I wrote the Bridges over. So now 983 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: let me just tell you this is where you also 984 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: crushed my dreams as a child. Fair hip hop started out. 985 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: I thought he was telling I'm a child, all right. 986 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I bought the nineties seventy seven right, what what year 987 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: did shann drop that record? That was like eighty six 988 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 1: eighty six? So technically how old am I? Nine? Ten? 989 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 1: Nine years old? Nine? So I believe as a nine 990 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 1: year old, but I don't. I've never been at But wait, 991 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: here's the real of it. We both were wrong. Okay, 992 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 1: wait wait me and you ll meet you. And okay, 993 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: he said, you love to hear the story again and 994 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 1: again how it all got started way back when the 995 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: monument is right in your face, sitting and listening for 996 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: a while to the name of the place, the bridge. Okay, 997 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: that caused the battle, that's what because you knew hip 998 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: hop originating. I was going watching BAM right, so now 999 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: we as as as as as we go. So it 1000 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: was that line that made you that's it. Well, no, 1001 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: it's Magic, said we was garbage. It made his fury 1002 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 1: combined with that line, Well, that line was the excuse. 1003 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: But Magic wasn't from Queen's Bridge. No, magic is from Magic. 1004 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: He's from Brooklyn. No. But but you hear this record 1005 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: and why Well, first of all, Magic just dissed us 1006 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: and and basically was hopping on the fact that his 1007 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: number one MC was this dude right here, mc shan. 1008 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 1: So being from the Bronx, hungry broke poor with nothing, 1009 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: we said, you know what, that's food right there. Let's 1010 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: go get him. This is crazy and so food right, 1011 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: We said, yo, we wrote up. I wrote the bridges 1012 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: over first. Scott didn't like it, said, no, nobody's listening 1013 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: to reggae ship If you really want to go at dude, 1014 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: come with some ship. So the original bridges Over was 1015 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: a reggae Yeah, okay, it was super Cat books boom 1016 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: boom boom boom boo boom boom the super Cat for 1017 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,439 Speaker 1: that right, super Cat literal left right for a little while. 1018 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: That was I was all in the super Cat right there. 1019 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: And he had a record called said Bop standing going up, 1020 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: hug him up. He said, boo standing in the boom 1021 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 1: boom boom boo boom boom boom boom boo boo boo boom. 1022 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, put that to some boom back 1023 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: the same ship we used to do in the in 1024 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 1: the in the shelter, we used to hit the bathroom. 1025 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 1: He didn't like that. So then what happened? You went back? 1026 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 1: He put on this record that goes, hey bro, I 1027 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: got that good cheap achiever boom boom, Hey bro, I 1028 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: got that good chiep a chief. You have to keep 1029 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: cutting that far out. So Scott's cutting that ship. And 1030 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I was like, way back in the days when the 1031 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: hip hop began with Coke Lrock, Cool HRC and Damn Bamn. 1032 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: He was the Scott was like, oh yo, you need 1033 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: to come with that next like three days later he 1034 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: got his check. We went to the studio. It was 1035 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: fifty dollars an hour and you get an ascetake at 1036 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 1: the ends. It was a bargain like the ascetake was 1037 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: only five hours, but they said and the acid take 1038 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: two hour minimum. We spent fifty dollars. We made a 1039 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: four track. We did South Bronx and the ps Free 1040 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: the same day, two hours on the bridges of Us. 1041 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: South Bronx and the p is Free, the original with 1042 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: d knights from the beat and we got du plate out. 1043 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: So we took that down to Latin Quarters and Raoul 1044 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 1: was playing Red Alert wasn't even on yet. It's a 1045 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: dude named Raoul. That is sidebar on, all right, was 1046 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: my homie. Shout out to sidebar, shout out to sidebar. 1047 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: What's the older people? As I said me, And because 1048 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 1: I stopped, no, no, no no, because I just figured 1049 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 1: Raoul so continue this story. We gave him. We gave 1050 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: him asta take, We gave him the dump player. He 1051 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: put the ship on. From the second that ship came 1052 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: on bridges own No, the South Bronx on the south 1053 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: it said Queen's after Queen's But queens Wich is a 1054 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: huge hit record should play on the radio every day. 1055 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Throw the ship on the club, dudes. We were very 1056 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: proud of how long do we have? How long do 1057 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 1: we have? How long Queen's were we? It was about 1058 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 1: a month, It was about a month. We only had 1059 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 1: a month, maybe two months, maybe two months. We had 1060 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: six months. No right to give us two months even 1061 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: if it was like two months was on the radio, 1062 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 1: it was like one month. The ship was he was 1063 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 1: in the club already, and then and then he came back. No, 1064 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 1: then Shan came back. No, no, no, no, no, let's 1065 01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: not skip okay, So we only had a month where 1066 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 1: it was okay to be from Queensbridge, left Franck Projects 1067 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: and then no, wait a minute, rephrase the question. No, 1068 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: you guys had like three you had like three or 1069 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: four years. Because when ce when when run DMC came 1070 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 1: out and l L and that shant it was cool 1071 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: with them. I'm cool with all of that. So why 1072 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 1: did you ship? Wait a minute, No, lyrically, I wasn't lyrically, 1073 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't see this was the time. This was a 1074 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: time where you had to prove run, d m C said, 1075 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: amazing lyric I think it was d m C he said, 1076 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:42,280 Speaker 1: other rappers can't stand us, but give us respect. That 1077 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 1: sums up the whole eighties with do you feel like 1078 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: DMC was like a pop group to you back? No, no, no, 1079 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 1: it was nothing pop about run DMC. No, I don't know. 1080 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 1: This was straight hood okay, jam Master Jay okay, okay, okay. 1081 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Jane was hood hood okay Okay. Now Run and d 1082 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: they were straighthood as well. They came from different other 1083 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 1: parts of Queens, but Queens the whole of Queen's good okay. 1084 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 1: So it was like Run to MC was just kings 1085 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: like they would just say and and you always took 1086 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 1: a shot at those who was on the top if 1087 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: you was the little guy on the bottom. That that 1088 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 1: that's what it was. It was like even um Rox 1089 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: and Shante had a line where I met Running, I 1090 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 1: met d m C and I said so and it 1091 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 1: was like one of her dopest like one of her lines, 1092 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 1: and she had put it. But that was the attitude 1093 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: like you ain't large, you you ain't you know even 1094 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: though you are, and you demand But let me ask 1095 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 1: you this question. When he said hip hop started out 1096 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: in the dog was was that something that directly bothered 1097 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 1: you because you knew the truth scholarly, yes, but I 1098 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: didn't know the truth. I thought I knew the truth. 1099 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: So this is young arrogance. I'm hanging out in the Bronx, 1100 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: North Bronx, South Bronx, East West Bronx. I'm the whole Bronx, 1101 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 1: Gunhill Road to Milborough Projects. Okay, whole Bronx. First time, 1102 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:16,599 Speaker 1: I'm a graph writer, So I walked the entire Bronx. 1103 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 1: My maid is okay, I'm the whole Bronx. Okay, So 1104 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: I'm running in the party's dudes, you know we know ship. 1105 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: You didn't hear, and I didn't hear. No, we did. 1106 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: We used to go to Queen's. Queen's had the dopest party. 1107 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 1: But so you did hear Pete? No do alright, come on, 1108 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: come on up man Queens. No see what it was? No, no, 1109 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 1: let me childhood store. Let me say this. Let me 1110 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 1: say this. My wife is from Queens, okay, s Queens. 1111 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 1: No no, no, no no, no, that's the queen right Jasmine 1112 01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 1: in the village in Queens, Queens. I'm gonna pick you up. Sorry, 1113 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: pigau me a wife. He's looking for I'm looking for 1114 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: my Queen's st orbans. See this is what I'm talking about. Man, 1115 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Niggas don't respect this part the nigga no matter a woman. 1116 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Let's leave this. Listen. On the island, people used to 1117 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: be like queens, like you started something. So niggas from 1118 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: queens at that time on the island spit out razors 1119 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: and buck fifties. You might have originated buck fifties. I 1120 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: don't know if you knew that. I don't know if 1121 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: you knew that. But because queens, he's like everything murder, 1122 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,760 Speaker 1: I do, I do mask. You don't care? This is? 1123 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 1: This is he's like my father, Like I mean, like, 1124 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: ain't you blame your father for everything? Don't we all? Yeah? 1125 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 1: Don't we all? Yeah? Don't we all? So? Um? All right, 1126 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 1: So when you heard hip hop started out an adult 1127 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 1: and you knew that, you knew that it didn't know. 1128 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 1: I knew Cool herd existed, I knew Bama, knew flies 1129 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: she exists that I didn't know them, but their names 1130 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: were in the hood crazy, So you knew she was fronting? Yeah, basically, 1131 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 1: well I knew he didn't know. I don't even know 1132 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: if he was fronting. It's just that because and he 1133 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 1: wrote about what he saw from his perspective, and so 1134 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: I went out to record South Bronx and and today 1135 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,400 Speaker 1: it's to be scholarly correct hip hop starting the West Bronx. 1136 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: It never started the South Bronx. That was my next 1137 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 1: question ahead, this is the West Bronx, Coolheart Avenue, the Bronx. Okay, 1138 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 1: that's West Bronx. But we were so ghetto ignorant and 1139 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 1: gas to get on the record. We South Bronx, South 1140 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 1: South Bronx. Because that was one of my other history 1141 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,680 Speaker 1: books was were people from the other part of the 1142 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Bronx when they still chair Oh yeah, everybody North Bronx, 1143 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,599 Speaker 1: East West was all from the South. Because even now, 1144 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 1: like when Biggie you hear you yeah, Biggie, or you 1145 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 1: hear um nah, somebody's out out the Bronx, they never 1146 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: say the Bronx. They say the South Bronx. And I 1147 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: always wondered when people from the other side, well they 1148 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,640 Speaker 1: offended by that, Like it's just like Biggie shout it 1149 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,519 Speaker 1: out on one record when God bless her dead. Obviously 1150 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 1: when Big was alive, he was like, yo, I shouted 1151 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 1: out Queen's Bridge, and I was like, I'm from Left Fract, 1152 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't really get that, like, you're not shouting 1153 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 1: out the whole Queens when you shout out Queen's Bridge. 1154 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge is a ninety six building that you come 1155 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 1: over Manhattan, and that's just that section for people that's 1156 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: right next door to it. Ravers would a story of 1157 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: they don't recognize Queen's Bridge. We understand what you mean 1158 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: by shout out Queen's Bridge and thinking it's the whole 1159 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,720 Speaker 1: Queen's but it's really not. So I always wanted it 1160 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 1: was that the opposite when you said South Bronx, um 1161 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,760 Speaker 1: was people in the West Bronx. The Bronx took it 1162 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 1: differently because the Bronx wasn't on the map. Brooklyn was 1163 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 1: on the map. The Brooklyn is still on the map. 1164 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: Rules you could be in dues off journey. You say 1165 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 1: broken in the house, what the fly was? Okay, there 1166 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,919 Speaker 1: was nobody was. There was a record called Go Brooklyn. 1167 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the Sonic Mighty Mike Master somebody go Brooklyn, Brooklyn. 1168 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: That was it. That that was the club anthem. That's 1169 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: what we did. That's what it was. So when I 1170 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 1: came to South Bronk, yeah, that's what I want to 1171 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 1: go that's where the Bronx was on the map. And 1172 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,640 Speaker 1: then I mentioned dudes that were heavy in the Bronx, 1173 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, Nine Lives Crew, Cypress Boys, Real Rock. So 1174 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,719 Speaker 1: what you're telling me is after you dropped the South Bronx, 1175 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: shan drop kill that noise, that's what made you drop 1176 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 1: Bridges Over. Yes, this is terrible. No. Never, First of all, 1177 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 1: I would have been over. It was horrible. This is terrible. Actually, 1178 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: you know what no let me tell you. When kill 1179 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 1: that noise came out, it was a hit. Was it 1180 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 1: was a hit. First of all. That be think of 1181 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 1: the Casey Sunshine band beat done. That was crazy. Think 1182 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,040 Speaker 1: he even used it again. He used it the doo 1183 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:16,560 Speaker 1: don't jun jun juno, don't don't don't don't, don't don't 1184 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,680 Speaker 1: come that that that that was the case. When he 1185 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 1: knew that on it was hot. It was like, oh 1186 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 1: he came back. It wasn't It wasn't whacked until the 1187 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:32,679 Speaker 1: Bridges Over came out. Marst Off, you're hurting my feelings. 1188 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 1: But I need to know how this happened. I need 1189 01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 1: to know, like we all, because you're my favorite artist 1190 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: at the time. I'm a child, and you you broke 1191 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 1: my dreams like ruined ship with the murder people all around. 1192 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 1: The boy my whole life as good as it's because 1193 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 1: he's my god. You so how did this session? How 1194 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,880 Speaker 1: did how did how did this? Because you said you 1195 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 1: originally recorded original version it was a reggae b no, no, no, 1196 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 1: I never recorded it, just I just said it in 1197 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Scott's living room. He said, nah, wow, So you did 1198 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 1: the South Bronx. So did the South Bronx and the 1199 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,560 Speaker 1: noise came out and did Now Scott got on the 1200 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 1: reggae when he heard the ps free when I did 1201 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: South Bronx and then the ps free on the other side. 1202 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, um, when we used to do that in 1203 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: the club, that was the rock that that was the record. 1204 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 1: So Scott was like, what's up this reggae? Like what? 1205 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 1: He started getting on it. Now he was on it. 1206 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: But then Shan answered, us would kill that noise if 1207 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: you knew what I knew, you'd kill that noise. And 1208 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 1: the record was hot for it's time, and so we 1209 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, we got this joint right here, 1210 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 1: and Scott didn't even was already recorded. No, it was 1211 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: all my record. Scott never recorded the bridges over he 1212 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 1: never even well. He came for the mix of the 1213 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: second one. But when when um, when Shan put out 1214 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: his record, I went back to said Gee from Ultra Magnetic, 1215 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,719 Speaker 1: who who who was doing our beats? And he said, 1216 01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 1: actually was sampling? He he was, He had the SP twelve. 1217 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 1: So I asked him, Yo, give me some drums. I'm 1218 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,880 Speaker 1: gonna go in the studio up the block from Latin Quarters. 1219 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,000 Speaker 1: I found some little rinky think studio like two blocks 1220 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 1: up and I said, Yo, Shan came out with this joint. 1221 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm coming back. Went in there and I produced the 1222 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,679 Speaker 1: whole records. I took said Gee's drums. Boom boom back back, 1223 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,640 Speaker 1: boom back, boom boom back. That's the same beat we 1224 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 1: did on the bathroom wall and the shelter boom boom 1225 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 1: back back boom back. When and dudes just get it in. 1226 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 1: That was just the standard beat. So we did that. 1227 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,760 Speaker 1: Put the super cat to it. Boom boom, boom blah 1228 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 1: boom bom. I played the piano one take one time 1229 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 1: you listen to the instrumental. That's the sloppiest playing ever. 1230 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: As errors mistakes, all types of shipping. But no one 1231 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 1: heard all that. Put my lyric down the Bridge is over. 1232 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 1: I did that ship strictly for Brooklyn, straight up Bronx, 1233 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 1: South Bronx. That was straight up Gunhill Road, straight up 1234 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,559 Speaker 1: west Chester, Jamrong, Grand Concuse, that was straight that this one. 1235 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 1: We said, Yo, this is what Brooklyn is on right now, 1236 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 1: and nobody knows it. Nobody. Nobody goes to the jams like, well, 1237 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 1: actually what it's called the don side. The Dan's all. 1238 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 1: They don't go to that. We'd be it. We was 1239 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 1: in there with Stone Love and GT International and all 1240 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 1: of that. So when he was talking about battle and 1241 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, we're gonna battle the way they 1242 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 1: do in Jamaica. We're gonna spin the record back this up, 1243 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: gun shot we go and America's never hurt. They was like, 1244 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,559 Speaker 1: what the fuck? The bridge is over? What did I buy? 1245 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,600 Speaker 1: They didn't know what the fun that hurt? It was 1246 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 1: like it was that's what it was called sound. I'm 1247 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 1: not even from the Bridge, I'm just from Queens, but 1248 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 1: it still hurts. Scary. I'm gonna take a moment of silide. 1249 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:22,679 Speaker 1: Take that moment, let's drink. So let's drink that chance 1250 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:29,639 Speaker 1: sent opcially fund it out. So why did why did 1251 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,640 Speaker 1: you even respond to sharing this Shan Shannon? Listen, let 1252 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,680 Speaker 1: me just say, Shannon still a godfather, no doubt of 1253 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge of Queens, He's still a forefather. But this time, 1254 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 1: why did you respond, like Shan is the reason k 1255 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:52,160 Speaker 1: arrest one has a career. Damn okay, this is to 1256 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 1: make some noise for that man. For second, in my opinion, 1257 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,680 Speaker 1: the greatest battle on record, no doubt on record. To me, 1258 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 1: it was the greatest battle because it affected like it 1259 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 1: changed people with lives. Like right now, when I see 1260 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 1: people battle, they don't change people's lives. We just laugh 1261 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,680 Speaker 1: at them. And you know, but this like Queens had 1262 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 1: to prove ourselves, like we had to like you know 1263 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: what I mean, like South Bronx was was was was 1264 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,679 Speaker 1: the position where you had to dig out the rubble. 1265 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 1: I got the outside. It's gonna go away where he said, 1266 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,599 Speaker 1: It's like Brooklyn has always been recognized. I can remember 1267 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,600 Speaker 1: back and uh nineties seven. I used to go to 1268 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta and be like, yo is Atlanta in the house 1269 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,439 Speaker 1: and nobody from Atlanta what never you know say anything? 1270 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 1: And when I said New York in the house, people 1271 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 1: go crazy. And I would saying Brooklyn and were always 1272 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 1: my first choice Brooklyn and and these people won't go crazy. 1273 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: I'll see him. I would see him backstage. And but 1274 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 1: like you from Brooklyn, we're at that. But like Queens Boulevard, 1275 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 1: this motherfucker's a line and motherfucker. But you changed the 1276 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 1: game from that. And so Shan responded to recently, Yeah, 1277 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 1: why did he started? You started? He started it? Yeah? 1278 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 1: He just he did an interview. No no, no, no 1279 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 1: he didn't. Well wait he didn't do a record, No 1280 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 1: he did, he did, um he did. Uh wait wait, 1281 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,760 Speaker 1: let me go back, just for the record. I was 1282 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 1: battling some other two in Pittsburgh recently. Yeah, maybe a 1283 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 1: three months up like Hill Chris, I would have got 1284 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, having eggs and bread in my fucking hand 1285 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: and ship on. But I give the young kids a 1286 01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 1: run for their money. Man still got it. They got 1287 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:04,679 Speaker 1: to test somebody. The young shooters got a little somebody. 1288 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 1: The young kids don't know my history. So don't tell him. 1289 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Don't tell him because he spank that. But but they 1290 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 1: but but but the point is is that I was 1291 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,280 Speaker 1: bounding some other someth dude jumped on stage. He was 1292 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,200 Speaker 1: this and he was dressed like L holding l L's 1293 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 1: album album, and I was freestyling. I said some waxh 1294 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 1: it about l L. I apologized for that because l 1295 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 1: L is up here. You know, he's even before me. 1296 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There's no disrespect there. But 1297 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,880 Speaker 1: I was battling, and the battle is for moment. He 1298 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: was like spurt. He held up l L's album. I 1299 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 1: was like, are you telling me some kids just jumped 1300 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 1: on stage? Yeah? Yeah, well just just jumped. So I 1301 01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: gave him a shot. Why what you got? He spent 1302 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 1: his ship. It was corny, and so I started going 1303 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 1: away this Pittsburgh, Okay, you did say that. So in 1304 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,639 Speaker 1: that he put up Sham this album and I said, 1305 01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,799 Speaker 1: we took Shan out already. What's your old this problem 1306 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,559 Speaker 1: up for? Shann heard that and said, fucking man, Yeah, 1307 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 1: he never took me out this, that the other. Do 1308 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: you agree with his theory? His theory is that, yeah, 1309 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 1: should have been in front of each other like how 1310 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 1: the Battle Rappers do. Now do you agree with that theory? Yeah? 1311 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 1: He just never showed up. Dude. It's thirty years. It's 1312 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,880 Speaker 1: thirty years the festival. I've been all up and down 1313 01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 1: Queens okay in Queen's Friend, there's no excuse outdoor festivals, 1314 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 1: come on Summon Champ thirty years and now he wants 1315 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 1: to do it face to face. That would be the 1316 01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 1: end of his ship. If you ever want to see 1317 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 1: him all that should will be destructive. I don't know 1318 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: what he's asking for, but you know, I eat off 1319 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 1: this ship, man, I this is my ship right here. 1320 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, still have it in you? Like you right, 1321 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot somebody. So you really were in the 1322 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,920 Speaker 1: studio and recorded a new Well he came out with 1323 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,240 Speaker 1: something he did. He did an interview and he said 1324 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,800 Speaker 1: some rhymes on the interview that he's coming at me 1325 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 1: so well from you don't just say that's like pulling 1326 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,880 Speaker 1: your gun and not shoot, like what you're gonna pull 1327 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 1: your ship out? I'm blasting you. That's sad, That's I'm 1328 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,600 Speaker 1: not what that's the end of. So he said his 1329 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,320 Speaker 1: little piece, So put a piece out. So what did 1330 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 1: he exactly say? He like, I'm freestyle a cappella. Yeah, 1331 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 1: but it sounds like it was written though it had 1332 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,840 Speaker 1: no heart to it, like a real freestyle. He was 1333 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,240 Speaker 1: reading some ship and he read some ship off and 1334 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 1: and I just so fu Yeah, I'm going to Atlanta. 1335 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to Atlanta. That's what, dude? Is that? That's what? Yeah, 1336 01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Shan working, sham working a place called Club Babes in Atlanta. Okay, 1337 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm going there. Okay, that's why I don't know what 1338 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 1: I just started. Come on, you want to see it. 1339 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:16,439 Speaker 1: Let's get it popping so you will be willing drink champs. 1340 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,760 Speaker 1: I think this is an opportunity for us, right, No, no, no, no, 1341 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: I don't want it to do with this battle. I 1342 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 1: just want to see it online. Queens, man, I don't 1343 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 1: really want to see this battle, can you? Is there 1344 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:35,600 Speaker 1: anyway we can chill you out or no? Not? What? What? 1345 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 1: What did they say that ignited you to want to go? 1346 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 1: It's not what it's being said. It's so it's the 1347 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 1: audacity to even think that, after thirty years you you 1348 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 1: got something for me. You are crazy. You obviously want 1349 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 1: more hits on your ship or whatever it is. Let 1350 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 1: me give them to you, Let me give it to you. 1351 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,040 Speaker 1: Let let me blick you up. Because again, let me 1352 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,639 Speaker 1: also say this, if Shan never answered me, I would 1353 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 1: not have a career. Okay from the South, bron from 1354 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 1: the South, Bronx. Okay, that record could have been one hit, 1355 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 1: Like if South Broncy came out, we would have had 1356 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 1: one hit. Okay, we had no other shot. Shannon answered, 1357 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,439 Speaker 1: would kill that noise, and then he never He didn't 1358 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 1: have to. So we came back with the Bridges over 1359 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,000 Speaker 1: and that's when we was able to follow up with 1360 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 1: Criminal Minded. We had four songs on the market. Now, 1361 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 1: Shannon is the reason I exist, or the least I 1362 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:34,640 Speaker 1: could do. His bust his ask, that's the least I 1363 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 1: can do. You know what I'm saying, Show him that 1364 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 1: and hopefully I said, Yo, somebody should write for Chancey. 1365 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: Back to your first question, back to the first ones. 1366 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,640 Speaker 1: I see if someone wrote for Shan, I would not 1367 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,960 Speaker 1: be mad at all. Fuck that man saved that nigga man. Please, 1368 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 1: so you kept saying to him, you told you told 1369 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:02,360 Speaker 1: him his name is Nah spelled backwards your father. It's 1370 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 1: the opposite, yo, Yo, Let me pick up my nigga 1371 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 1: nos real quickly, because you said, look at the Queen's 1372 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,560 Speaker 1: Bridge was done until Ill Mattic came out. Okay, just 1373 01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,439 Speaker 1: for the history, Okay, Queensbridge was criminal Minded? Was was 1374 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,200 Speaker 1: the ship on that ship? That was it? Okay, I 1375 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,599 Speaker 1: think Illmatic was better than Criminal Minded. That's my opinion. 1376 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 1: Um um. Me being a queen's kid, I can't understand 1377 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 1: where you're coming from. But me living in that era, 1378 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 1: I gotta say criminal Minded. If it wasn't a criminal Minded, 1379 01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,479 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a matter. We could say that, no doubt, 1380 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,720 Speaker 1: no doubt. We could say that, so we can say 1381 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm a real hip hop ki. No no no no 1382 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:57,640 Speaker 1: no we tried no no no no no no. You 1383 01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 1: real with it. You influenced eyes too. But you know what, 1384 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,760 Speaker 1: you know what you are starting right now. Whoever is 1385 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 1: listening to us right now, go and listen to both 1386 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 1: albums right now, back to back, back to back. Listen 1387 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 1: to the whole Criminal Minded, and listen to the whole Illmatic. 1388 01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:17,240 Speaker 1: I did that this morning. That's the creaz Listen. Listen, listen. 1389 01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 1: You know that's Criminal Mind is one of my favorite albums. 1390 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,640 Speaker 1: I just it's two records. I can't really listen to it, 1391 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 1: but I listened to them. But this morning I just 1392 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:29,760 Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, I wanted to listen 1393 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 1: to Illmatic. I don't know why, and I just listened 1394 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,080 Speaker 1: to it. And then I listen to criminal another mind 1395 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,439 Speaker 1: if you want to switch the champagne you know so, 1396 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,360 Speaker 1: um so I understand what you're saying. But me living 1397 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 1: in that era, that's um. I can one hundred since 1398 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,960 Speaker 1: tell you nas what answer the question the same way. 1399 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 1: He'll be like, if it wasn't for a criminal minded, 1400 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,760 Speaker 1: he wouldn't know because you made us step our game up. 1401 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 1: You know what, but that game, but that game got 1402 01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,640 Speaker 1: stepped up to the point where hip hop changed. But 1403 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 1: change hip hop too, just in case, because you don't 1404 01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,320 Speaker 1: know you and you humble, but you changed hip hop. 1405 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 1: You You was the first person you was. You was 1406 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,800 Speaker 1: our Malcolm X. Let me break that down to you. 1407 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 1: It is because hip hop had took up like the 1408 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:22,200 Speaker 1: p M Dawns, and it took up Hey, we're cool approach, 1409 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,679 Speaker 1: but we wanted to keep that attitude. But we also 1410 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,840 Speaker 1: wanted to learn something and that's the position you fulfilled. 1411 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,719 Speaker 1: That's why, that's why your your name as a teacher 1412 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,840 Speaker 1: would never be testing at all. No one could ever 1413 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,280 Speaker 1: say he's not a teacher because you taught us the 1414 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,000 Speaker 1: woof Tangs, the mob deeps, the Bona Noriega's the Nazis. 1415 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 1: So I can't agree with your statement. I know your 1416 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,560 Speaker 1: statement is humble, saying that all Maddock is better, but 1417 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I think it is beat for beat. No, but that's not. 1418 01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 1: But that's not how history happened. Because how history happens 1419 01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,720 Speaker 1: is they say, you know this happened in order for this. 1420 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 1: I hear that. So that wait, when I was coming 1421 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,360 Speaker 1: from a different perspective. We're talking about respect. We talk 1422 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,600 Speaker 1: about yeah, you're a great guy, a great guy. We 1423 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,439 Speaker 1: understand when you're wait, wait get it. How else was 1424 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 1: Queen's been supposed to come back? But now nothing out? Now, 1425 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 1: let's answer Shan's question. Because I listened to the interview. 1426 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 1: Shan is also a guard to me. He said that 1427 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Molly told him not to respond. What do you think 1428 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 1: of that? That's pussy, That's that's pussy. It was right 1429 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: for him. I wanted him to think that that's pussy. Man, 1430 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:55,040 Speaker 1: my god, oh my god. Now that's grown ass. Man 1431 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 1: gonna tell you not to response. We're eating your ass 1432 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 1: right now, nig somebody don't respond and ship right. Oh man, 1433 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:18,479 Speaker 1: this is real for me, this is so surreal. Welcome 1434 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,560 Speaker 1: to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and 1435 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:26,200 Speaker 1: TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play 1436 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,719 Speaker 1: it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs 1437 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:36,640 Speaker 1: Radio with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then I 1438 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,719 Speaker 1: don't even know where to go here if we're gonna 1439 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 1: wrap this up before here, before we wrap this up, 1440 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm the only Miami represented here, right, Yes, So it 1441 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,479 Speaker 1: wouldn't be right for you to walk away without me 1442 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 1: to represent my generation of Miami hip hop. And when 1443 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,120 Speaker 1: you recorded with Mother Superior this album, didn't really see 1444 01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:01,000 Speaker 1: the letter. This is your usually lie. Mother Superior. Mother 1445 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,840 Speaker 1: Superior is this dope m C that came out of 1446 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 1: Miami in the mid nineties early mid nineties, and she 1447 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,639 Speaker 1: was spearheading our movement. I mean, there was those funky Bastards, 1448 01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,840 Speaker 1: there was Society, Home Team, there was there was We 1449 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 1: had a bubble of movement that was parallel to the 1450 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 1: base movement based, no doubt is a part of our 1451 01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,960 Speaker 1: Miami culture, but we had we had a hip hop 1452 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 1: and the way you guys were talking about how everybody 1453 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,160 Speaker 1: was talking about the Brooklyn, the Bronx or whatever in 1454 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,599 Speaker 1: the clubs, we had that problem here. So what we're 1455 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 1: trying to do is build our own identity. He did 1456 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 1: a record, so she did this album she got signed 1457 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,519 Speaker 1: the Island Music she you know, strictly off of underground radio. 1458 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,759 Speaker 1: She did a song called rock Bottom, which was totally 1459 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,439 Speaker 1: representative of Miami. And then he did a record with her, 1460 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 1: maybe a couple, but this one record I put on 1461 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,320 Speaker 1: one of my mixtapes, but her album never came out 1462 01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 1: and got shelved. And he said, where you at? Where 1463 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,400 Speaker 1: you at? Miami's on the map. I remember that, and 1464 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 1: then you remembers everything that made that made the world 1465 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:11,600 Speaker 1: of difference for a Miami hip hop kid. And I 1466 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,800 Speaker 1: just you couldn't leave without me telling you that because 1467 01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,360 Speaker 1: it made the world a difference for all of us 1468 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:21,000 Speaker 1: out here that I felt shot out some other superior, 1469 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 1: superior she was. She was hot man stone words. Peter 1470 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,800 Speaker 1: got question, where was your mind that when you made 1471 01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,800 Speaker 1: the sound of the Police? I was sick of these 1472 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,760 Speaker 1: pigs man shooting us down in the street. And it's 1473 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,559 Speaker 1: still going on still, what it was going on since 1474 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,880 Speaker 1: we got here? So what was the sound of? What 1475 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:50,680 Speaker 1: year was that? Technical? Damn this and were now one 1476 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,519 Speaker 1: years and you made that record then? Yeah, and it's 1477 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,360 Speaker 1: still going on now still to this tape, Little n 1478 01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 1: W A man the police? What was. Yeah, it was 1479 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:06,080 Speaker 1: the police that And see, this is the thing is 1480 01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:13,320 Speaker 1: that people say, you know, black people are overdoing it. 1481 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:19,200 Speaker 1: We have documents, records that says that these people was 1482 01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,800 Speaker 1: doing it. So I just like to say, what was 1483 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,040 Speaker 1: the mind state you woke this in the South Bronx. 1484 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 1: Well keep in mind that. Wow. I don't even know 1485 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:34,680 Speaker 1: how to say this, but um, in the Bronx. Uh, 1486 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:40,439 Speaker 1: if you was really successful with you'll hustle in the hood, 1487 01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:46,639 Speaker 1: the cops was your friends. It was Larry Davis. Yeah, 1488 01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,720 Speaker 1: you were. Larry Davis was right on our block like 1489 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,280 Speaker 1: Webster Project. He was up the block from Webster Project. 1490 01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:56,320 Speaker 1: The whole thing went down. Um, the cops was like 1491 01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,200 Speaker 1: they were gangster like. It's like, oh boom, okay, to 1492 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,880 Speaker 1: speed this up. Training day, the movie training day. That 1493 01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,000 Speaker 1: ship is every day all day. Okay, just go out 1494 01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,680 Speaker 1: training day and you'll know what it is. It's just 1495 01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:16,560 Speaker 1: this was another gang with another jurisdiction. And then and 1496 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 1: this is what we was dealing with. So if you 1497 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,240 Speaker 1: remember in Bookie Down Productions, we had to we had 1498 01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,559 Speaker 1: to do called RoboCop that was with us and there 1499 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:29,080 Speaker 1: were two of them. One was um A Bounced was 1500 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:33,479 Speaker 1: the lead bouncer at Latin Quarters who is known for 1501 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:37,720 Speaker 1: breaking dudes up in Latin Call. He had a reputation. 1502 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,960 Speaker 1: You didn't want to deal with this dude, okay. And 1503 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:46,479 Speaker 1: there was another dude, uh that was a state trooper, 1504 01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:50,519 Speaker 1: New Jersey State trooper. Um when I'm posting on the 1505 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:54,960 Speaker 1: going to cover biomies necessary with the oozy the ouziest 1506 01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 1: from a New Jersey state trooper. Remember the studio jet shopper. 1507 01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,840 Speaker 1: I didn't look at I didn't look as cool as you. 1508 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,559 Speaker 1: That was from New Jersey said she was so weird. 1509 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,200 Speaker 1: Austin it was like it got to a point where 1510 01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,280 Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, we we can't associate 1511 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,960 Speaker 1: with you anymore because of what was going on. It 1512 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,960 Speaker 1: was a split like in our own community, because like 1513 01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:23,880 Speaker 1: if you're really in the hood, like like you could 1514 01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,760 Speaker 1: be selling mad drugs, but your brother's a cop, Like 1515 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 1: your cousin's a cop, your uncle's a cop. Like you know, 1516 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 1: it's not just oh, I'm a cop and everybody around 1517 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 1: me is clean. It's the exact opposite. Dudes, did the 1518 01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:44,000 Speaker 1: cops even today they gotta live with people like like, 1519 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,920 Speaker 1: imagine you a cop and every day you see crime 1520 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,599 Speaker 1: all around you every day, but you can just pick. Okay, 1521 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna arrestue today. How did you come up with 1522 01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:56,160 Speaker 1: an analogy from officer overseas? But that's that's some ot 1523 01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 1: ship because when we when we were first and we 1524 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 1: were first brought here uh not as slaves but really 1525 01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:07,040 Speaker 1: as soldiers on the Spanish side, um uh and and 1526 01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,760 Speaker 1: then slaves on the English side. Although that's controversial too, 1527 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:17,680 Speaker 1: but yo, yo, hit yo, yo, we're gonna get your 1528 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,720 Speaker 1: new phone cameras. No, I need that when I need 1529 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:24,720 Speaker 1: that ship, I need that. My ship is eighty can't 1530 01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 1: do that. I'm bringing that ship back. I'm personally buying you. 1531 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:34,400 Speaker 1: I gotta beeper nickels. I got no word. I'll say, y'all, 1532 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 1: I bring my ship IOUs serious, I gotta beat hold 1533 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:50,720 Speaker 1: my beeper man, bring beepers back that yo. That yo. 1534 01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 1: You want to get dream, you gotta beat us. Yeah, 1535 01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:58,240 Speaker 1: you gotta beat us. I'm personally buying caress the world. Okay, okay, okay, okay, 1536 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,559 Speaker 1: So you remember you're talking about because you can forget 1537 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:06,840 Speaker 1: it and um yeah I did. Yeah, that's okay. Listen, 1538 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,800 Speaker 1: we wanted to take the community, oh, cops in the 1539 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 1: community that's right, signing the police. So the cops is 1540 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:17,439 Speaker 1: always your friends in the hood, which is the weirdest 1541 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,240 Speaker 1: ship because when you really in the hood, cops ain't 1542 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,560 Speaker 1: arresting you, ain't shooting you. He's a bitch, instead of 1543 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:29,080 Speaker 1: shooting at us. Motherfucker's that ain't no real ship. That's 1544 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,839 Speaker 1: some bullshit. Okay, that's that's scared. They said, we're scared. 1545 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,760 Speaker 1: That's what we shoot because we're scared. Real cops. They 1546 01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:44,400 Speaker 1: know exactly who's selling who they hit the d A. Yo, 1547 01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 1: go watch training day the d A. Go ahead, this 1548 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 1: dude to this one. I say all the time when 1549 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 1: we have police brutality, is when they stopped letting the 1550 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:02,519 Speaker 1: cops from the hood go to hud because you know, 1551 01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,200 Speaker 1: you know what you call it from down the block. 1552 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 1: He went to school with him. You know he's a thief. 1553 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,280 Speaker 1: You don't need to kill him. But when what happened 1554 01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,720 Speaker 1: is they take the cops from our hood and they 1555 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,720 Speaker 1: bring them to another place, and then they bring the 1556 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:21,360 Speaker 1: cops from another place, and that's the borderline. That's that's 1557 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:25,519 Speaker 1: that's one of the essential reasons why police brutality exists, 1558 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:30,400 Speaker 1: because if you had Jamal that that's from sound View project, 1559 01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,880 Speaker 1: and that went to school and sound View, and then 1560 01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,559 Speaker 1: that was patrolling sound View. He's gonna be different as 1561 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:42,639 Speaker 1: opposed to as a Paul to Walter, who's from wherever wherever, 1562 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,560 Speaker 1: but now he's patrolling sound View. He's never seen a 1563 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:49,120 Speaker 1: kid with braids. He's never seen a kid either by 1564 01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:55,519 Speaker 1: since I see so he's gonna just do whatever this woman. 1565 01:37:56,120 --> 01:38:01,560 Speaker 1: This add on. The police are supposed to be the 1566 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:05,040 Speaker 1: model citizen in the community, no matter who you are, 1567 01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,880 Speaker 1: white cop, black cop, Latino cop, Asian cop, Arab cop. 1568 01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna funk who you are. You take you take 1569 01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:16,240 Speaker 1: police training. You're supposed to be the model citizens. You 1570 01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:20,439 Speaker 1: should have the most restraint. Okay. Kids are looking at you. 1571 01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,679 Speaker 1: They should be able to look at you and be like, yo, dad, 1572 01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,280 Speaker 1: I want to be a cop, and your dad be like, yo, 1573 01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,599 Speaker 1: you gotta really be a good man to be a cop. 1574 01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,880 Speaker 1: And that that's what it's supposed to be. But our 1575 01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:38,719 Speaker 1: children forget adults. Okay, children know the cops are corrupt. Okay, 1576 01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 1: that's the state we are, right, Kids, not forget the adults. 1577 01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,280 Speaker 1: Kids know I'm not safe around this duo. I'd rather 1578 01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,040 Speaker 1: be around my shooters over here with the rag on 1579 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:53,360 Speaker 1: the here, I'm safe around crips and blood. I rather hot. 1580 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,479 Speaker 1: You know, I'm even gonna say that ship. I'm just 1581 01:38:56,600 --> 01:39:00,879 Speaker 1: saying I rather higher them, which we do as opposed 1582 01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,559 Speaker 1: to some some off duty cops. Years ago, we used 1583 01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:09,200 Speaker 1: to hire off duty cops x FBI. These dudes need jobs. 1584 01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:10,840 Speaker 1: You just go ahead and you hire them for and 1585 01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,240 Speaker 1: now you give them some money. You're doing your country 1586 01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,280 Speaker 1: or service. These are veterans, and ship, do you do 1587 01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:20,160 Speaker 1: your thing now? It's like, nah, man, let me organize 1588 01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,599 Speaker 1: these blogs over here. Hit them with some money because 1589 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,040 Speaker 1: on the street for let me hit them with some cash. 1590 01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,960 Speaker 1: And y'all God, y'all can stand in. Just do what 1591 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,120 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do and get organized. I'd rather hire 1592 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 1: them as long as we know that we're not safe 1593 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,640 Speaker 1: around the police. This whole ship is corrupt and let 1594 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,640 Speaker 1: me show you this. I want some Illuminati ship if 1595 01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:46,120 Speaker 1: you really want to know. Years ago, like eighty two, 1596 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:51,439 Speaker 1: there was a supposedly a conspiracy theory going around about 1597 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:57,240 Speaker 1: eighty three. It said that the new World Order is 1598 01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:02,559 Speaker 1: going to include a global police force, and the way 1599 01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:07,799 Speaker 1: to implement the global police force was for local police 1600 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:12,280 Speaker 1: to become so hated by the local community that the 1601 01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 1: local communities cry out for international interference. So now you 1602 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:24,519 Speaker 1: have these cops today randomly just shooting down black people, 1603 01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,720 Speaker 1: just shooting and it's stupid. It's like, it's ridiculous. Now 1604 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the world's saying, Yo, what's something with America? 1605 01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,800 Speaker 1: What's what's something? Do you go to other places? You know? 1606 01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,840 Speaker 1: Nor are you go to places? Dudes looking at us 1607 01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,479 Speaker 1: like wait, crazy, like you know what's going on? Got 1608 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,200 Speaker 1: Africans asked me, you old bro, what's something? Man of 1609 01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,880 Speaker 1: black man? Sometimes you land in these different countries, they'd 1610 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:52,880 Speaker 1: be like welcome, like you're here, like you survived. And dudes, 1611 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,320 Speaker 1: you think that's because because became president it got worse 1612 01:40:56,600 --> 01:41:01,320 Speaker 1: or no no, you're saying yeah, no, no, no, no, 1613 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:02,840 Speaker 1: you know what he got to do, and he got 1614 01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,320 Speaker 1: a lot of factors in it. First of all, people 1615 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,640 Speaker 1: want black people in jail. Okay, people making money on it. 1616 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,200 Speaker 1: Black people are making money on black people in jail. Okay. 1617 01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:17,880 Speaker 1: This black d a sending business Like, don't doubt this 1618 01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 1: black d a sending black people a prison. Black judges 1619 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,880 Speaker 1: are sending black people to prison. Black cops are sending 1620 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 1: black people, black cops, black stop shooting black beebo. We 1621 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:32,920 Speaker 1: y'all gonna drop, I got you, you know. So it's 1622 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:37,679 Speaker 1: like it's like, are we really at war with any 1623 01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,479 Speaker 1: outside for us? So we all with ourselves? Are we 1624 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,599 Speaker 1: just going along with the script that they have planned 1625 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:47,320 Speaker 1: for us? And it's like straight up and down. They 1626 01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,000 Speaker 1: just had Tyler Quality was just with me the other day. 1627 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:57,920 Speaker 1: He came over. So he just told me he just 1628 01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,719 Speaker 1: came from the White House with a blood. The rappers 1629 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,680 Speaker 1: were there and really nothing got discussed, you know. And 1630 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:07,320 Speaker 1: they never call people like me or Chalk or and 1631 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:13,880 Speaker 1: one or no doubt, and that's that's what they need. 1632 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,840 Speaker 1: But they never know. But you know what they had 1633 01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:21,479 Speaker 1: ricked there. You know what I'm saying. You know what 1634 01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm saying, no, why don't they because 1635 01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,639 Speaker 1: they know you're gonna come with the truth. Look, here's 1636 01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:31,320 Speaker 1: the point is that is that we're moving into this script. 1637 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:36,479 Speaker 1: The United States has to become what its name is 1638 01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:41,000 Speaker 1: in order to it to survive. United funk all this 1639 01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:46,599 Speaker 1: black ship, give me this this this is this legendary 1640 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:52,120 Speaker 1: what right here America? We got to become a United America. 1641 01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:56,519 Speaker 1: Gotta stand up for America, like straight up when you 1642 01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,120 Speaker 1: go to other country's nick is this in US man 1643 01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,720 Speaker 1: this and the Americans this and not everybody because my 1644 01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:09,880 Speaker 1: first game president, everybody with you know whatever. Overseas, they 1645 01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:16,360 Speaker 1: was like black like the like the first year after 1646 01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:21,720 Speaker 1: that there was you know. But there's a rumor that 1647 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:28,880 Speaker 1: you didn't fly. He was taking boats and Franklin. So 1648 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,439 Speaker 1: so do you do you fly now? No? I fly privately. 1649 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 1: I love flying. I fly helicopters. I'll fly private jets 1650 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,200 Speaker 1: and things like that. Take a few private jets here 1651 01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:44,080 Speaker 1: in there. But commercial airlines for me, it's too much 1652 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:47,200 Speaker 1: to love in the hood is too much for k arrest. 1653 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I can't do nothing like you know, like 1654 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,200 Speaker 1: to get to the airport, it takes me an hour. 1655 01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,599 Speaker 1: The baggage claim sucking the whole baggage claim. I take 1656 01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,840 Speaker 1: pictures with everybody pounds. I'm not leaving my people. I'm 1657 01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:02,599 Speaker 1: not is gonna walk past you. So everybody said, yo, Chris, 1658 01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,880 Speaker 1: I gotta stop. I gotta take things. I got sign ship, 1659 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,720 Speaker 1: get on the plane. The stewardess buggat the people on 1660 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:11,560 Speaker 1: the on the plane, bugging Captain. I said, you know what, 1661 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,080 Speaker 1: and this was ninety seven. I said, forget it. I'm 1662 01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 1: not flying. I'm not flying on what I can't you 1663 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:22,880 Speaker 1: haven't from since ninety seven, actually ninety six. Let's being rich. 1664 01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:29,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta be tweating a line a rich. Listen, 1665 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:32,880 Speaker 1: it's not rich. I'm not a rich man. I'm a 1666 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,400 Speaker 1: very poor man. No, no, me too, I say the same, 1667 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:43,240 Speaker 1: I take I'm not rich, me too, I'm pot. But 1668 01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:45,760 Speaker 1: the private thing is let's talk about it. But but 1669 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,000 Speaker 1: but I won't fry privately. I take very good care 1670 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,320 Speaker 1: of my wife and my children. Okay, that's what it's. 1671 01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't need anything, but they need a lot. So, 1672 01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:57,439 Speaker 1: you know, I say, look, I don't want to have 1673 01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,280 Speaker 1: a career where I'm away from my kids on my wife. Ethan, 1674 01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 1: it's that the other so and I can't be away 1675 01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,479 Speaker 1: from my wife. She books all the tours. Did you 1676 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:08,240 Speaker 1: book a boat to London? I heard that. I heard this. 1677 01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,360 Speaker 1: That's why I'm rushing out of here now. Yeah, I'm 1678 01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:17,840 Speaker 1: going to Speen tomorrow. Talk about are you getting a 1679 01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:23,439 Speaker 1: boat to Man's Woman? Mimi, I'm going in tomorrow. This 1680 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:27,720 Speaker 1: Coronesian Nowegian cruise posting right up to your board. I'm 1681 01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,240 Speaker 1: getting on that ship and then it goes to go 1682 01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,040 Speaker 1: to Spain. How many days? Fourteen days, I'll be in 1683 01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:41,040 Speaker 1: Barcelona world, So this is this is current you and 1684 01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,559 Speaker 1: college is like the only two left. You know, College 1685 01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:51,040 Speaker 1: don't fly either. I think he got expected though fly? 1686 01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,200 Speaker 1: Why should he fly? So? Why what? What? Why you 1687 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't fly? Well? Well, first of all, like I told you, 1688 01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:01,200 Speaker 1: commercial travel to me is just hectic. Besides that, like 1689 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,479 Speaker 1: you know now, besides that, I have books to write. 1690 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 1: I got rhymes to right, I read a lot. My 1691 01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,479 Speaker 1: life is slower, you know what I'm saying. I take 1692 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 1: time with my family, my wife, my daughter, my son's 1693 01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,479 Speaker 1: I got you need time for that. So you know, 1694 01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,160 Speaker 1: fourteen days at see, I'm finishing up three books that 1695 01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:24,439 Speaker 1: I'm just finishing. You just zone now try that one. 1696 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,559 Speaker 1: You should. You should try writing rhymes in the middle 1697 01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,680 Speaker 1: of the Atlantic. I got a d D hit that 1698 01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:33,400 Speaker 1: you don't have a d D smoke too much. I 1699 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:38,280 Speaker 1: might just jump over escualde Cures. That's what I'm saying. 1700 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,559 Speaker 1: It doesn't have it. And the thing is the weed 1701 01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:43,600 Speaker 1: I smoke is so loud, like it's gonna be a 1702 01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,160 Speaker 1: judge that come out. I'm gonna tell you a story, right, 1703 01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I was in Hawaii because I remember 1704 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,040 Speaker 1: this story because he's drinking my ties. So I'm in Hawaii, right, 1705 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:57,559 Speaker 1: I'm out, hold on, hold on, I'm smoking weed. Right. 1706 01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:04,559 Speaker 1: This is my first marriage, it's my I'm married again, 1707 01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:10,320 Speaker 1: it's my second one. Pray for me. So I'm sitting 1708 01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:13,400 Speaker 1: there smoking. The people at the Four Seasons, the Four 1709 01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:16,680 Speaker 1: Seasons Maui. So they called me and they say, yo, 1710 01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:22,280 Speaker 1: are you smoking up there? And I'm like, yeah, I 1711 01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,400 Speaker 1: don't know what I paid for this room, but I 1712 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,960 Speaker 1: just know my accountant lost her mind. So I'm like, yeah, 1713 01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm smoking. They're like, kids, you would you mind not 1714 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,719 Speaker 1: smoking on the terrorists? So I said, now you're inviting 1715 01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,160 Speaker 1: me to smoke in the room. They're like, you're right. 1716 01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:42,960 Speaker 1: They're like, we have a very important guest that is upstairs. 1717 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, did the guests pay more than me? 1718 01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:50,040 Speaker 1: And they're like no. So I'm like, well, they're like 1719 01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,559 Speaker 1: Mr Santiago, that's my last name. I don't know if 1720 01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:54,840 Speaker 1: you don't pay. Puerto Rican makes a noise for La team, 1721 01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,400 Speaker 1: but I'm black and like so so they say I'm 1722 01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:02,760 Speaker 1: actually performing in Santiago. This is a gift. So they 1723 01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,879 Speaker 1: say to me, they say, you're right, you're actually outside. 1724 01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:09,080 Speaker 1: You can't do it. I look on the news. This 1725 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:14,799 Speaker 1: is when Oprah um step son had drowned in Hawaii 1726 01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 1: and Maui. So the person I was telling them to 1727 01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,679 Speaker 1: tell them the funk that I paid the same amount 1728 01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:29,879 Speaker 1: was fucking Oprah. This is hard a morbid story because 1729 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,720 Speaker 1: I like that I actually paid square for square. We 1730 01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,400 Speaker 1: had the same exact room. God bless you know the 1731 01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:39,439 Speaker 1: people who passed away and everything. But that ship was 1732 01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,160 Speaker 1: just a moment for me. It was a moment for 1733 01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:46,599 Speaker 1: just me standing in my ground but now and trying 1734 01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,400 Speaker 1: to make this one work. The second was always the best. 1735 01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:52,360 Speaker 1: You're the second one to ms. Melanie was first, okay 1736 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:54,200 Speaker 1: a year and a half and big up to her 1737 01:48:54,200 --> 01:49:01,479 Speaker 1: wresting peace. God blessed not that I'm every related, by 1738 01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:03,680 Speaker 1: the way, So if you seen me do that, I'm not. 1739 01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm a Muslim, Christian, God body your caress. Thank you 1740 01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,680 Speaker 1: for so much for hanging out with us. And we're 1741 01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:17,400 Speaker 1: not going and I'll come back. I'm not fourteen days 1742 01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,640 Speaker 1: when I come back. The people need you let's just 1743 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:23,000 Speaker 1: break it down for these people. You are going fourteen days, 1744 01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:26,040 Speaker 1: So now how does this cruise happen? You leave in Miami, 1745 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,000 Speaker 1: do you stop anywhere? Yes? Will you stop that? We 1746 01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:33,640 Speaker 1: stopped in fun called Africa. We stopped on you go 1747 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:40,120 Speaker 1: from Miami to Africa? Yeah, we got that. Real questioning Africa, 1748 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:45,360 Speaker 1: I've never heard of some Bahamas, a little Bahama, little Bahamas. 1749 01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,599 Speaker 1: Then you get out to Africa, then you get done 1750 01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,080 Speaker 1: this trip before. Oh yeah, no doubt. Not only this ship, 1751 01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,400 Speaker 1: but I've done other ships I've done. And how many 1752 01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:56,000 Speaker 1: times do you say you them this oh sailed? Yes? 1753 01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh at least thirty times? And you believe in a 1754 01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,439 Speaker 1: boat you've got an everything Titanic? No, no, no, there's 1755 01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,519 Speaker 1: no Titanic anywhere in the Atlantic Ocean. The coast guard 1756 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:10,120 Speaker 1: will get you in ten minutes. Anyway, It ain't that 1757 01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,480 Speaker 1: bo that's bullshit. That's this movie ship. This rich motherfucker's 1758 01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,800 Speaker 1: on that boat. That boat ain't going nowhere. There's no 1759 01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,800 Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's nothing now mind you. Now come on now, 1760 01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:30,240 Speaker 1: Caribbean Cruises and all that you cruise, Do I get them? 1761 01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:36,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no doubt. You get platinum gold status, healthy passengers, 1762 01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:40,680 Speaker 1: no doubt. But some of the triangle, the triangle you 1763 01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:45,360 Speaker 1: haven't been there. Yeah, part of the triangle you've been 1764 01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:49,120 Speaker 1: right through it. Get right there. The Bermuda try and 1765 01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,479 Speaker 1: go only acts something when when like you know you 1766 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:56,120 Speaker 1: you have to go through that and like like, um, 1767 01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,919 Speaker 1: it's like certain seasons where they say it's like hurricanes 1768 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,680 Speaker 1: season or this kind of thing. Look everything, because it 1769 01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,120 Speaker 1: gets the bottom line. You trust the boat more than 1770 01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:09,679 Speaker 1: the plane. No, no, no, okay, I trust me driving 1771 01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,240 Speaker 1: ship more than anything. Okay, I would prefer to get 1772 01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:17,080 Speaker 1: my own boat and sail across the sea myself, but 1773 01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to settle for a small yacht. Like 1774 01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, I could do a small yacht right now, 1775 01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,800 Speaker 1: but that's not what I want. What I want is 1776 01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,240 Speaker 1: an actual ship that I could go across and of 1777 01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:30,519 Speaker 1: course mad money. So I'm just holding out till I 1778 01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,120 Speaker 1: can get my own ship, and then I could. I 1779 01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:36,360 Speaker 1: could see some motherfucker's want to buy planes. They want ship, 1780 01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,920 Speaker 1: pair of us one and one on the ship something 1781 01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:44,519 Speaker 1: that's straight up no doubt. So you think I'm gonna 1782 01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:48,080 Speaker 1: give you this last one? Um, it's the last question. 1783 01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:55,840 Speaker 1: Boxing don't have no representative which means that if you're 1784 01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,720 Speaker 1: a boxer, you make it, you make it. If your 1785 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:02,160 Speaker 1: boxer you don't make it, you're fucked up. There's no 1786 01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,920 Speaker 1: there's no reparations, there's no like you know, type of 1787 01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, to hold you down. Hip hop is the 1788 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:14,960 Speaker 1: only other, I want to say, entertainment company that we 1789 01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,280 Speaker 1: might have thirty people that's down with us. But when 1790 01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:20,679 Speaker 1: you go on that vocable before you go to perform 1791 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:24,760 Speaker 1: that record, it's just you. Similar to boxing, we don't 1792 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,400 Speaker 1: have nothing to representing us in the hip hop. We 1793 01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,479 Speaker 1: hear that the president just recently met Matt with these 1794 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,000 Speaker 1: people Toddler Quality brothers that we know bust the rhymes. 1795 01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,920 Speaker 1: What do you think it's our solution to make we 1796 01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:39,519 Speaker 1: need a hip hop you know when you wanted the 1797 01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:43,000 Speaker 1: life insurance or the health insurance even further than that. 1798 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,920 Speaker 1: Now Um yeah, well let me let me because like 1799 01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:51,400 Speaker 1: right now, like like DC right, phenomenal guy lost his voice. 1800 01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,559 Speaker 1: They should have been health insurance that kind of helped 1801 01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,400 Speaker 1: him restore that. We didn't have that and right now, 1802 01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:00,280 Speaker 1: But it's because Jenna Kiss said something on our part cast. 1803 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,760 Speaker 1: He said, we're the only people who have a hip 1804 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:07,479 Speaker 1: hop South hip hop regions. Yes, there's no hip hop, 1805 01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:11,280 Speaker 1: there's no rock and roll South, there's no rock and roll. 1806 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 1: Why are we segregating? Why are we saying and and 1807 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,800 Speaker 1: and do we need this? This this policies where we 1808 01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,479 Speaker 1: if Coolherd gets sick, we can go and help him. 1809 01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:25,680 Speaker 1: Do we need that? Yes we do, Yes we do, 1810 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:29,960 Speaker 1: and and and and and I advocated absolutely. Unity is 1811 01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,960 Speaker 1: the only thing we talked about, American unity. Let's let's 1812 01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:36,080 Speaker 1: tweak it down to hip hop unity. Hip hop is 1813 01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:40,960 Speaker 1: the greatest urban movement to hit human history. Let's just 1814 01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:47,879 Speaker 1: start human history. Okay, human history, Okay, hip hop breaking 1815 01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:51,479 Speaker 1: him seeing graffiti or DJ and beatboxing. You can add 1816 01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:56,240 Speaker 1: street fashion, language, knowledge, all of that. That movement in 1817 01:53:56,400 --> 01:54:00,960 Speaker 1: the hood. That that right there, hip hop is is 1818 01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:07,280 Speaker 1: what America really is. It's like the true declaration of independence. 1819 01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:11,120 Speaker 1: It's what America is. But we got these old people. 1820 01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,799 Speaker 1: You asked me also about hip hop's old school. Okay, 1821 01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,160 Speaker 1: I have respect for the old school. We always should, 1822 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,799 Speaker 1: we did. Those are the ancestors, those are the elders, 1823 01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:23,720 Speaker 1: those are the fathers, godfathers and so on. That's that's 1824 01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,439 Speaker 1: what it is. But when you don't do your job, 1825 01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:32,960 Speaker 1: you don't deserve the respect of the youth. Elder is 1826 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:38,480 Speaker 1: always asking for respect that they don't deserve me. I 1827 01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,800 Speaker 1: try to earn the respect of the youth. I don't 1828 01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,480 Speaker 1: look down on them. I think they're smarter than me. 1829 01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,880 Speaker 1: I think they're faster than me. I think they think 1830 01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,880 Speaker 1: of things beyond what I can think about. Now. Of 1831 01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:54,240 Speaker 1: course I tell them, hey, look, I'm the old head 1832 01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,480 Speaker 1: in the room, and I like that ship. I'm fifty 1833 01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,480 Speaker 1: fun this ship. Okay, that's my ship. I got a 1834 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:21,080 Speaker 1: our peacon. I want my ship next time. Dude, Yo, 1835 01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:32,440 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. What fifty percent off hotels ship 1836 01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:44,600 Speaker 1: is bad? Let me tell you, Okay, we yo, were 1837 01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:48,720 Speaker 1: the elders in this. Young people are supposed to look 1838 01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:52,120 Speaker 1: up to us and be like, Yo, that's what it 1839 01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:55,760 Speaker 1: means to be fifty and hip hop world. You got 1840 01:55:55,840 --> 01:56:00,440 Speaker 1: your knowledge downpack, your family straight, you got your money right, 1841 01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:03,320 Speaker 1: You're doing your thing. That's what young people need to 1842 01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:10,840 Speaker 1: see and see more blue the blue print. Now we're 1843 01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,840 Speaker 1: gonna do it. Shows like this, your ship bringing people 1844 01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:17,880 Speaker 1: together right now as we speak. Right now, as we speak, 1845 01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,240 Speaker 1: dus is here and what it is what we gotta 1846 01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,520 Speaker 1: do is really unite, and here's what it's gonna take. 1847 01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:26,120 Speaker 1: Here's you asked this about to stop the violence movement 1848 01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:28,920 Speaker 1: about my brothers ain't doing that today? What we're so 1849 01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:33,760 Speaker 1: hard to do that today? Too much, too much competition, 1850 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:40,440 Speaker 1: not enough cooperation. Okay, we live in a capitalist come 1851 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:46,080 Speaker 1: we we we we live in a capitalist society where 1852 01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:54,360 Speaker 1: uh where competition is the number one order of the day. 1853 01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,920 Speaker 1: So the young are trained to kill the old so 1854 01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,080 Speaker 1: that you can get so so that you could you 1855 01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:02,200 Speaker 1: what it is the younger train to kill the all. 1856 01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,200 Speaker 1: The all a train to kill the young so you 1857 01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:08,480 Speaker 1: can stay in power. Kill these youngest as they coming up. 1858 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't want you to take your hip hop the 1859 01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:14,320 Speaker 1: only generation like you know, the Odds brothers could tour forever. 1860 01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:18,200 Speaker 1: Why did they try to kill the older? Well, it's 1861 01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:23,320 Speaker 1: that it's that competition. It's still competition. Look when we start, 1862 01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:26,440 Speaker 1: when we stopped thinking of hip hop as a music 1863 01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:30,160 Speaker 1: and start thinking of it as a culture, a nation, 1864 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:34,280 Speaker 1: a community. When you start realizing that you are a nation, 1865 01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:38,800 Speaker 1: you're a sovereign nation, all we gotta do is unite, 1866 01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:43,720 Speaker 1: just just unite. Just here's a unity. I here it is. 1867 01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:48,080 Speaker 1: Let's print our own currency. Alright, start right, This is 1868 01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:52,400 Speaker 1: the unity of any nation starts with trust. We print 1869 01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:56,080 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars for every hip hop citizen in 1870 01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:59,880 Speaker 1: existing we have a million citizens. We print a hundred 1871 01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:11,880 Speaker 1: million of our currency currency. Wif cent I'm coming right 1872 01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,560 Speaker 1: now here, he'll he'll be a fifty cent piece, fifties 1873 01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:17,400 Speaker 1: worth more than that. But but I'm saying, print our 1874 01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,960 Speaker 1: own currency, and let's see if the people spend that. No, 1875 01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:26,280 Speaker 1: they will, You'll be instantly rich. People buying albums, we 1876 01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:31,840 Speaker 1: give them, give them currency by our currency, not our albums. Right. 1877 01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:33,680 Speaker 1: If we gets selling the album, we did that, we 1878 01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:37,520 Speaker 1: know that game. Now let's sell currencies in which you 1879 01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:39,760 Speaker 1: got the k arrest currency, and d would be like, Yo, 1880 01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 1: this ship is worth this this week up against the 1881 01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:45,720 Speaker 1: American dollar, up against this is the end, up against 1882 01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:49,840 Speaker 1: the Euro, against this ship. Yo. Look, if you gave 1883 01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:52,680 Speaker 1: me a hundred thousand dollars, say you know, let's say 1884 01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:55,320 Speaker 1: I gave you a hundred thousands. Okay, I'll give you 1885 01:58:55,360 --> 01:59:00,240 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand hip hop currency currency. Okay, now you're 1886 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna spend it with my man right here. What we 1887 01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:09,040 Speaker 1: what we want is specialized people to have this money electricians. 1888 01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:13,600 Speaker 1: Right now, hip hop is old enough. We got doctors, lawyers, ps, workers, 1889 01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:18,720 Speaker 1: we got all kinds of and entrepreneurs, okay, huge entrepreneurs. 1890 01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:23,000 Speaker 1: All we gotta do is trade our own currency with 1891 01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:26,360 Speaker 1: each other, with each other. This hip hop has their 1892 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:36,520 Speaker 1: own stores, farms. Look, dude, funk that American dollar. I 1893 01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:51,360 Speaker 1: wanted to see if you're gone this is I gotta 1894 01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:57,240 Speaker 1: be until four in the morning on the plastic I'm 1895 01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:06,880 Speaker 1: not it's plastics. Ship. We gotta join. We gotta drink somewhere. 1896 02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Are your caress. I love you so much, man much, 1897 02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:13,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us and being a 1898 02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:17,120 Speaker 1: great sport. Took a drink. You even tried to smoke. 1899 02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:25,160 Speaker 1: You didn't want to. You gotta need bring you back 1900 02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:29,400 Speaker 1: to the old school. Dude, brother, I'm adas that over there. Okay, 1901 02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:33,600 Speaker 1: bass it over there. That's the drink. We gotta take 1902 02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:36,760 Speaker 1: one picture with you. Over there, came green. There's no 1903 02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:38,720 Speaker 1: way I can thank you ever in my life. I'm 1904 02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna be in your video. We have a moment. I'm 1905 02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:44,200 Speaker 1: being her video. But it's no way I can thank 1906 02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:47,280 Speaker 1: you ever in life. Because this is this is actually 1907 02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,400 Speaker 1: like one of the first hip hop albums I've ever 1908 02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:54,160 Speaker 1: listened to this man. Yeah, one of the first people 1909 02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:57,480 Speaker 1: that I ever said. Then I thought about like my 1910 02:00:57,600 --> 02:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Mom's like, what you're gonna be in life? And I 1911 02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:02,040 Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know. I knew I couldn't 1912 02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:06,160 Speaker 1: be a teacher, not like you. But I am a teacher, 1913 02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,680 Speaker 1: but not like you. I'm a different teacher because I 1914 02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,440 Speaker 1: show him a different path. But if I've never would 1915 02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:14,640 Speaker 1: have heard you, I would have never wanted to speak. 1916 02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:17,280 Speaker 1: I would never be here. You know what I'm saying. 1917 02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:19,840 Speaker 1: Some hot Kim Green. You know that's my brother. He 1918 02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:22,600 Speaker 1: called me And when he called me, I said I 1919 02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:25,440 Speaker 1: knew the number, but I hit him back. I just said, 1920 02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:30,960 Speaker 1: called madness And he got a website. Right, come on, 1921 02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:35,840 Speaker 1: I can't come over here, come over here, here here, yeah, yeah, 1922 02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:39,560 Speaker 1: So shout out your website. We got the maddesm dot 1923 02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:42,080 Speaker 1: org popping off, the ultimate cannabis journal. You know you 1924 02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:44,840 Speaker 1: got you got the maddest popping off internationally. It's big 1925 02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:46,560 Speaker 1: money right now. I want to make sure my people 1926 02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:47,680 Speaker 1: get a taste of that, you know what I mean. 1927 02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,000 Speaker 1: So see us off that maddesm dot org so you 1928 02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:52,480 Speaker 1: can keep up with all the latest grow techniques. You 1929 02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:54,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Grow When you say grow, listen, 1930 02:01:57,320 --> 02:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm about cannabis. I'm talking about that goodness chronic that 1931 02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,120 Speaker 1: you know what we do, what we got going on. 1932 02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:05,839 Speaker 1: Your casts need to know how to grow for themselves. 1933 02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:09,120 Speaker 1: It's not not just about smoking it, but industrial hip 1934 02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:15,320 Speaker 1: is a multi b pipe in the mail. Yeah, I 1935 02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:17,320 Speaker 1: got the whole. We got the hot box, you know 1936 02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:19,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. How we got different ways of you know, 1937 02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:22,560 Speaker 1: the vaping, got the smoking, the leaves, the paper, the blood, 1938 02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,160 Speaker 1: but we got the hot box. It's just a special 1939 02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:27,120 Speaker 1: way of inhaling, you know what I mean. It's real, 1940 02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:32,560 Speaker 1: real good. I want more. Are you a vegetarian? What 1941 02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,160 Speaker 1: are you? Yeah? Yes, so you don't eat no fish? No, 1942 02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:39,440 Speaker 1: I try to eat. I leaned toward a vegetarian die, 1943 02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:43,040 Speaker 1: but I do eat fish. How about you. I'm not 1944 02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:45,800 Speaker 1: a vegetarian, right, but I am about my health. I 1945 02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:47,440 Speaker 1: do a lot of juicing. And I said, you keep 1946 02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:51,440 Speaker 1: up with the bartender trying happy about trying to d 1947 02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:58,720 Speaker 1: I drink. Yeah, thank you so much for saying my 1948 02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:02,640 Speaker 1: brother yo, no jarres. Yeah, I called you Chris for 1949 02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:06,360 Speaker 1: the first time in my life. I never called you Chris. No, 1950 02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:09,000 Speaker 1: what you know what. It's through the records. It's like 1951 02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:12,800 Speaker 1: I never knew if I had the ability to call you, Chris, 1952 02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:16,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate what that man, greatest 1953 02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:19,680 Speaker 1: sport you actually sat down and drink. I didn't think 1954 02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:21,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna be able. I didn't think I was 1955 02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna be able to get anyway with it. Shout out, 1956 02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:27,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Side ball, everybody make some fing 1957 02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I let's say you speak find all 1958 02:03:59,880 --> 02:04:02,760 Speaker 1: your favorite movies and shows factor with Exfinity. Just speaking 1959 02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,120 Speaker 1: to the excellent voice remote to search across live, CV 1960 02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:09,920 Speaker 1: on demand, even Netflix and Prime Video. 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