1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? This is John middle coop 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Reing Out podcast, brought to you live. Actually it's recorded. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: This is a podcast by the Colin Coward Podcast Network. Uh, 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: we got a big, big show for you today. Obviously, 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: gonna touch a lot on the draft. Uh, some things 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: that I didn't like when it came to value with 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: the New York Giants selection. We got some John Gruden 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Reggie Mackenzie drama that's becoming kind of some national news. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit on some of the picks I liked 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: and didn't like. Always get to your questions. You can 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: always wherever you subscribe to your podcast, if you do 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: it in iTunes, subscribe rate and in the review section 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: leave your question and I will get to that sometime 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: during the podcast. What we've been doing is doing it 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the podcast after I hit on 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: a couple of topics, and that That's what I'll do 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: again today with some of my own question Definitely gonna 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: wrap up just especially in the first round, some picks 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: that I liked and some picks that I didn't like. 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: But let's start with Baker Mayfield. Uh, somewhat of a 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: shock went number one overall. And I think this boils 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: down it's very simple on the most basic level. I 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: think we all can relate to it. In in life, 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: your career kind of starts with whoever gives you your 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: first opportunity. Once you graduate college or some people don't 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: go to college, and you start working, and a lot 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: of that is out of your control. In in the NFL, 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: P you know, in football, in that profession, it's clearly 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: out of your control. There's a draft, so left you're 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, which is not what you're aspiring 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: to be. You want to be drafted. You do not 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: pick your destination a lot of us. I my first 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: profession was working in the NFL, but again I didn't 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: really pick where I went to work. I was lucky 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: enough to get to interview with the Philadelphia Eagles and 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: it was a great opportunity. But I was also very 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: lucky that I got hired into an organization with Andy Reid, 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: who's been on this podcast. One of the best coaches 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: in the league. Howie Roseman was my boss who just 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. I became friends with guys like 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: Matt Naggie just became a head coach, Brett Veach, general 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: manager now for Andy Reid. Again, I'm not trying to 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: brag or anything, but my point ultimately is if the 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, or you know, the St. Louis Rams or 45 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks at the time this was in 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten had hired me, I wouldn't know 47 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: all these people. I would have maybe been out of 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: the league in a year or two and had no 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: good contacts when I transitioned to the media, and I 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: was lucky. And I think when you look at Baker Mayfield, 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: it was kind of the opposite. Though he went number 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: one overall in the draft, he didn't control where he 53 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: was going. He was one pick away. Reports earlier this 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: week said that if he had fallen to number two, 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots would have mortgaged their entire draft or clearly 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if it necessarily said that, but it 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: would have taken multiple ones, potentially three ones and maybe 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: a two just to go get to number two for 59 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: the Giants to move all the way back. But think 60 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: of what the difference would have made if Baker Mayfield, 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: let's say Josh Allen or Sam Donalds had got number one, 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: and somehow Baker Mayfield had fallen to two and the 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: New England Patriots came up to get Baker Mayfield. He 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: would have been with Bill Belichick. He would have been 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: had a mentor in Tom Brady. Uh see what happened 66 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Garoppolo changed his life. He would have been 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: playing for arguably the best offensive coordinator in the league 68 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: in Josh McDaniels, and been in a championship culture, a 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: winning environment, and a place that would have set him 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: on a path for success. Instead, he goes to Cleveland, 71 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: where since two thousand seven they won ten games. For 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: ten straight years they have averaged four point one wins 73 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: a season. I wrote it down starting in two thousand 74 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: and eight four five five four five four seven three 75 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: one zero. They do not win a lot of games. 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: This franchise, I would say, over that period of time, 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: and definitely the last five six years, is on an 78 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: all time embarrassing run. Like the way we laugh at 79 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: the New York Knicks recently that that that's what the 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are right now. The difference is their history. 81 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: They've never really won in the last forty years They've 82 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: They've been perennial losers. Things always go wrong for them. 83 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Now Baker Mayfield goes from walk on twice in Division 84 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: one college, started at Texas Tech. Incredible story, could not 85 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: beat out players there, had to go to Oklahoma. When 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: he walked out in Oklahoma, they'll think about this. It's 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: one of the great programs in college football stability beside 88 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: now maybe Alabama, but Bob Stoops had been there well 89 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: before Nick Saban ever showed up. No program at the 90 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: highest level had more stability than Oklahoma, and he came 91 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: in at the perfect time they were searching for a quarterback. 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: He rose right to the shop. He's a really good player, 93 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: but they surrounded him with star after star after star, 94 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: and listen, I'm not trying to diminish Baker Mayfield, but 95 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: my point is Oklahoma with Bob Stoops not quite on 96 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: the New England level. They didn't win as many championships, 97 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: but on the college level, it doesn't get anymore stable 98 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: than that. It doesn't get any more consistent than that. 99 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: So he was given an opportunity around the Joe Mixons, 100 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the Soma, G. P. Ryan's, the D. D. Westbrooks, the 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherds, you name it. An offensive line. Orlando Brown 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: went the third round. Just good player, after good player 103 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: after good player, a stable head coach, and even when 104 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: they went into a transition, they went from Bob Stoops. 105 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: He handed the job to Lincoln Riley, who's now viewed 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: as the young up and coming coach in college football. 107 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: He's viewed as like, you know, this might be a 108 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: little bold, but like Brad Stevens was in Oklahoma or 109 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean at Butler in basketball, Lincoln Riley, if things 110 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: go really well, he's gonna have to turn down NFL 111 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: jobs very very soon. I would imagine teams called him 112 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: this year. I wouldn't be shocked if John Dorsey calls him. 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: What if John Dorsey calls him next year. But when 114 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: you look at the Cleveland Browns and you look at 115 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: their history, there are so many things as a quarterback 116 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: that are out of your control. Like I said, when 117 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: I was hired in Philly, I was lucky enough. There 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: were all these up and coming stars around me, not 119 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: not just in personnel, but I got to work with 120 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick, who I answered you every day, who's now 121 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: one of the bright guys in the media. Phil Savage 122 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: another guy I became really good friends with who was 123 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: working for the Philadelphia Eagles, now runs a Senior Bowl, 124 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: works in media, calls Alabama games. I saw it all hell. 125 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I worked Ryan Grigson, who we all knew was gonna 126 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: be a terrible GM, and then he was a terrible GM. 127 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: But I got I was lucky. These things were out 128 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: of my control as a quarterback, who your coaches, who 129 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: you're surrounding personnel is, who your organization is. When you're 130 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: drafted that high is completely out of control. He went 131 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: from gifted an opportunity potentially with New England, which would 132 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: have been one of the like for all the the 133 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: hardship that quote unquote Baker Mayfields had as a quarterback, 134 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: and I think it is fair he had to walk 135 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: on twice. It would have all been made up for 136 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: with Bilichick then drafting him number two. Instead, he goes 137 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns, and I don't necessarily blame the Cleveland 138 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: brown for picking him. I get falling in love with 139 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: the intangibles. There is something special about him. Though I 140 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: would not have made that pick. I just would have 141 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: taken Sam Donald. I think it's gonna be very, very 142 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: difficult for Baker to overcome all these things that are 143 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: out of his control to overcome the Cleveland Browns, and 144 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: their most important employee right now non player in Cleveland 145 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: is John Dorsey. But I'll tell you that us he's 146 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: the least important employee of them all, because we talked 147 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: about it last week. He doesn't run the game plans, 148 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't help develop the players. He picks them, but 149 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: then everything's out of his control. Now he helps establish 150 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: a culture, and he's really really good at his job. 151 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: I think he knows how to find good players. But 152 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: if I had to pick and listen, I at my 153 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: core I'm a scout, so that's the way I look 154 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: at things. But if I owned a team, or if 155 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: I hell if I was a fan of a team 156 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: and got to start a team from scratch, and you 157 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: gave me the hierarchy of owner, quarterback, head, coach GM, 158 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: let's just say those four positions the general manager would 159 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: rank last. I would definitely start with probably probably my coach, 160 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: maybe my quarterback, but one of those two ur and 161 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: then the owner over the general manager. He's the least 162 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: important of the group, and he's still pretty important. I 163 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield. I mean it was one pick 164 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: away for being the luckiest man in the world. Let's 165 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: talk about another guy that got pretty lucky. Now let 166 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: me preface it by saying this. I think this guy 167 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: is a stud Sae Kwan Barkley is an elite player. 168 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: But when I talk about the draft, and I anyone 169 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: that's been listening to this podcast or follow me for 170 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: a while knows I harp on one thing when it 171 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: comes to the draft, even more than landing talented players. 172 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I use one word, and I use it over and 173 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: over and over again. Value value value. There could be 174 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: two million dollar homes on the market, and if both 175 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: those homes were bought in the same year, five years ago, 176 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: and one guy paid five grand for that home, but 177 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the other guy overpaid and paid seven seventy five, the 178 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: guy that paid five grand for the million dollar home 179 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: got much better value than the guy that paid seven 180 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: seventy five if they're both worth a million dollars. When 181 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: I look at the Giants, first off, it's a quarterback league. 182 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: I thought them passing on Sam Donald when he was 183 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: gifted to them was borderline negligent malpractice, just stupidity. I mean, 184 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: I think it could be one of the most haunting 185 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: moves or non moves in recent memory in the sport 186 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: of football, especially with Sam Donald that will now play. 187 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: I think it's still MetLife Stadium, but in your building 188 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: for the New York Jets, in your market, it's just 189 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: it's insane. You you have a thirty seven year old 190 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: quarterback whose arrow is pointing down. It's crazy. It was 191 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: just it was a mistake. But if you're not gonna 192 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: take a quarterback, okay, I I understand. Under no circumstances, 193 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: and I repeat none, is there good value in taking 194 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: a running back. I don't care how good the guy is. 195 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: I literally don't give us yet. You could tell me 196 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: Jim Brown or Barry Sanders was there now that that 197 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: might change it. Barrys. I love Barry Sanders. But again, 198 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: the point remains to take a running back at number two, 199 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: say Kwan Barkley, who we all agreed was the best 200 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: running back in this draft. Here's my problem. Look at 201 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: the way the draft played out, starting at pick to 202 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: pick forty three. That's like a span of fifteen sixteen 203 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: picks one, two, three, six running backs went. The value 204 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: in this draft was late in the first through midway 205 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: through the second. The Giants had the second pick in 206 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the second round, starting at pick Rashad Penny, Sony Michelle. 207 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Then starting in the second round, after the Giants pick 208 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: these guys, the Giants wouldn't even needed a trade up 209 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: to get Nick Chubb, Ronald Jones, Kuran Johnson. Then in 210 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: the third round, again after the Giants third round pick 211 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Royce Freeman. The value in this draft was running back 212 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: in the later rounds. The value in drafts historically are 213 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: in later rounds at the running back position instead. Dave Gettleman, 214 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: the Giants are stuck in some archaic way of thinking 215 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: and took, say Kwan Barkley number two to me, if 216 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: you're not going to take a quarterback, I would keep 217 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: pounding the table and disagree with you till the cows 218 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: came home. But if you weren't going to take a quarterback, 219 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: and that's just you're not gonna budge off that, I 220 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: would eventually say, well, who's the next most important position? 221 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: You would say pass rusher. So you would look at 222 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: who's the best pass rusher in this draft? You say, 223 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb. Are there other good pass rushers in this draft? 224 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: You'd say, no, not really, It's a bad pass rusher draft, 225 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: very very poor. He is head and shoulders above the 226 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: rest of his draft. The value in landing pass rushers 227 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: in two thousands. The eighteen draft was there was one 228 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: guy halle fell into John Elway's lap, Bradley Chubb at five. 229 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: That was the pick. To take a running back at two. Then, 230 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback. But 231 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: we had been saying it for months going into the draft. 232 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: There we're gonna be a ton of running backs. Where 233 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: you were drafting in the second round. You could have 234 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: taken Chubb. You could have taken Ronald Jones, you could 235 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: have taken Johnson from Auburn. You could have waited until 236 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: the third round and taken Royce Freeman, who I think 237 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be an excellent player. That was a good 238 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: pick by Elway. It just made no sense. The value 239 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: was not there and get him and tried to argue 240 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: that he's given two I think perfect grades in his 241 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: scouting career. One was Peyton Manning back in the late 242 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: nineties I think draft, and then se one Barkley. I 243 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: don't know how you could come to that conclusion, but 244 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: let's just say you did, and let's just say you've 245 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: you say Kwan Barkley as the new version in two 246 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, because you can't hit as much catching, you know, 247 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: on a defensive standpoint, catching the football as a running 248 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: back has never been more valuable. I understand that. So 249 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: the league is trending for these past catching running backs 250 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: to succeed. But here's the problem. For past catching running 251 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: backs to succeed, they are predicated on their quarterback. Like 252 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: for them to catch the ball, it is out of 253 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: their control. You have to be able to throw him 254 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: the ball. And the Giants right now, Eli Manning is terrible. 255 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: He is not a good player. So even if he 256 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: wanted to run it back one more year with Eli, 257 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: how I I just can't wrap my head around. I 258 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: really can't. I mean, I'm recording this on Wednesday, We're 259 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: almost a week removed from the first round. I still 260 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: can't get over then passing on a quarterback, and then 261 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: I come to grips with Okay, that was his ultimate decision. 262 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: I think the gettleman was somewhat forced by the ownership, 263 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: who feels some kinship to Eli. Feels like they screwed 264 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: him last year when they benched him in ruin a streak. 265 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's too emotional for me, but clearly 266 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: there's something there I I can't comprehend. This family that 267 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: has been around professional football for so long couldn't understand. 268 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: And and John Merrow's brother Chris, is part of the 269 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: personnel department that in a draft just loaded, just stacked 270 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: with running backs from top to bottom from the second round. 271 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: On would take a running back at two? What are 272 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: the chances? I would say, it's not I don't even 273 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: think I'd put it over that. In the next five 274 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: years he may be the most talented, but I would 275 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: not bet on If you said, John, here's a thousand dollars, 276 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: you gotta take a go to your bank account to 277 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars. You know, I'm not a multi millionaire, 278 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: So anything four figures from a decent amount of money, 279 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: you go. You can bet on two things, kind of 280 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: like a golf event. You can put on for the 281 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: next five years. Who's the most productive catches, rushing yards, touchdowns, everything. 282 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Would you put it on Sakwan Barkley or would you 283 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: put it on the field in the field beside two 284 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: guys which the Giants easily could have traded up to 285 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: pick seven where Seattle was And if if they really 286 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: love or Shot Penny or Hell traded up with Belichick 287 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: to get uh Sony Michelle. He's not emotional when it 288 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: comes to players. He has no problem trading back. So 289 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: I put those two two players as potential picks, but 290 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: definitely Chubb, Jones, Johnson and Freeman the next four running backs. 291 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Taken that one of those guys over the next five years, 292 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: because I don't look at running backs like ten year players. 293 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: They have short shelf lives. I would take the field 294 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: one of those guys now. I don't know which, but 295 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: one of them will be more productive than sake Kuon Barkley. 296 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: The odds are on your side. It consistently happens. I 297 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: think the Giants blew it. I think they were really 298 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: exposed for not understanding value. And again, you have to 299 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: separate two things when it comes to the draft when 300 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about players in a vacuum. Sake Kwon Barkley 301 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: excellent player, borderline elite prospect. The value though at taking 302 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: him at two was insane. It was wrong. I think 303 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: the Giants made a massive mistake. One story right now 304 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: making a lot of headlines. Mike Freeman just wrote about 305 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: it of Bleacher Report. I know Victafer of the athletic 306 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: that I that I work with has written a lot 307 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: about it is John Gruden. John Gruden has pushed Reggie 308 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: Mackenzie to the side. John Gruden does not listen to 309 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: his scouts. And I just think to my self and 310 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: a lot of Twitter and social media and Raider fans 311 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: are just kind of I don't know if perplex is 312 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: the wrong word. And I think a lot of the 313 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: country is like wow, and I'm just thinking to myself, 314 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: what did everyone think was going to happen? The moment 315 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: Mark Davis, who is the least cash rich owner in 316 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: the NFL, their own The Davis family's only business over 317 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: the years has been the Raiders. They have the least 318 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: amount of cash of any of the NFL teams. Now, 319 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: most of the NFL owners are billionaires. The Raiders are 320 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: billionaires only because they have the franchise, and really, Marked 321 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: has A doesn't even have fifty of the franchise though 322 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: he's the majority owner and the the ultimate you know, 323 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: decision maker when it comes to hiring coaches, firing coaches, 324 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: et cetera. The moment he gave John Grewden a hundred 325 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: million dollars UH money I'm sure he had to take 326 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: out loans to pay not just Jack deel Real to 327 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: go a but pay for John Gruden. What did everyone 328 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: think was going to happen when you get a hir 329 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: a coach for ten million dollars, a guy that has 330 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: been out of the league for nine years turned down 331 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: countless opportunities. There was no chance on God's green earth 332 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: that John Gruden was going to answer to an incumbent 333 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: general manager. I don't care if that general manager had 334 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: one executive of the year, which Reggie Mackenzie. Did you 335 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: know after the two thousand sixteen seventeen season, which was 336 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: a year a year ago, he was done. Reggie was 337 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: a dead man walking. Now, for those of you that 338 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: don't live in the Berry like I do, Mark Davis 339 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: loves Reggie Mackenzie. He wasn't gonna just fire him. But 340 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: John was never gonna listen to Reggie. And what I 341 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: had been hearing for months, and I actually heard this 342 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: at the combine that John Gruden had his own draft 343 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: board like the scouts and Reggie had their draft board, 344 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: and Gruden had his own because he did not care, 345 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: literally did not give a ship what Reggie and his 346 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: group thought of players. He was going to acquire anyone 347 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: he wanted. And again, the way this the cycle works 348 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: now in two thousand eighteen, with hiring coaches that have 349 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: a lot of leverage, and Gruden had the most leverage 350 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: of any coach we've seen in recent memory. They get 351 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: unlimited power. They get to hire and fire everyone they want. 352 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: And it looks like some of these stories we'll see 353 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: if Bruce Allen ends up coming to the Raiders in 354 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: the next several years, John Gruden might even be able 355 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: to pick the president of the team. That's not even 356 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: picking the players, but the president of the team to 357 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: run business operations. That's how much juicy as when Gruden 358 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: says jump, Mark Davis says how high even with Belichick, 359 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: Robertkraft doesn't respond like that. That's how it works. And 360 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily blame John Mark Davis. I would have 361 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: done the same thing in his situation to get John Gruden. 362 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: But the moment you do that, to me, here's the 363 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: most important thing for Raiders and John Gruden and John 364 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: Gruden's success. Because I've read flagged a couple of things 365 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: that have happened so far, and I saw this in 366 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: my short time working with Chip Kelly when he came 367 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: in once Andy left. And let me let me preface 368 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: it by saying this, I do not think John Gruden 369 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: and Chip Kelly have that much in common. I would 370 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: take John Gruden every day of the week and fifty 371 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: times on Sunday over Chip Kelly as my NFL coach. 372 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: But Chip, when he got so much GM power, a 373 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: little like John. They live too much in the present. 374 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: They're too worried about week one, and most coaches are. 375 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: That's why having a strong general manager, and in Gruden's case, 376 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: it's gonna be someone he hires, but someone he respects. 377 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: For example, Andy Reid hired John Dorsey, and then when 378 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: John got fired by the owner, you know, was a 379 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: big part of hiring Brett Veach. He respected those guys opinions. 380 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: When when they can have healthy disagreements, say Pete Carroll 381 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: hired John Schneider over the years, they can have healthy disagreements. 382 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: Right now, over these last four months, Gruden has had 383 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: no one in the building beside his coaching staff to 384 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: have a healthy disagreement. And that's not healthy for your 385 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: team because they're too worried about week one, week five, 386 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: week six. General managers, the scouting department at the front 387 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: office are worried about the big picture. And Gruden made 388 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: again two mistakes, living too much in the moment and 389 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: relying too much on his coaches in this draft. And 390 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: when you do that, you don't worry as much about 391 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: draft trades and value. You just do it. So when 392 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: they trade back from ten to fifteen to get Colton Miller, 393 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: that's a classic coach trade. Because you look at a 394 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: classic GM trade, the trade above them, when Tampa went 395 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: from seven to twelve. I had a high ranking executive 396 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: a team that said, man, Tampa cleaned up. They got 397 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: two two's to go from seven to twelve from Buffalo 398 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: when they traded up to get Josh Allen. The Raiders 399 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: three spots later, same scenario, which actually different because there 400 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: was only one top of the top four quarterbacks left 401 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: on the board. Did not even get one second round pick. 402 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: They got a third round pick. We just talked about 403 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: it was, say Kwan Barkley. The draft is about value, value, 404 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: value value. Colton Miller can become a very good player. 405 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: That was a bad trade. Those things are mutually exclusive. 406 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: They're they're they're not connected, they're not correlated. And then 407 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: immediately I saw it with three of his moves, definitely 408 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: too Worally, the guy that Philadelphia Eagles traded for Tory 409 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Smith then got tazed and was wasted, got a d U. 410 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: I I don't think there was any weed involved. But 411 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: when Gruden was in the league, and for most of 412 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: my life and those of you listening to before the 413 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: last c b A, marijuana was not that big of 414 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: a deal. Guys could fail test that they were not 415 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: going to be in this program. They weren't gonna get 416 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: suspended for long periods of time. In two thousand eighteen, 417 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: failing tests for marijuana. Listen, I don't care if you smoke. 418 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: Like most I live in the state of California. There's 419 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: a company called Ease. They would literally deliver the marijuana 420 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: to your house. It's legal in in the state that 421 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: I live in. People smoke mar I can walk out 422 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: of my condo probably two condos down. You just smell 423 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: at the aroma. It's everywhere. People smoke marijuana in California, 424 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: like most states, drink water, eat cheeseburgers. It is not 425 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: a big deal around it's literally legal, but it is 426 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: a big deal for players, and they got two players, 427 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: one Martavis Bryant. He traded a third round pick four. 428 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: I talked to a couple other teams that said they 429 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: thought about it, they wouldn't go any higher than a fifth, 430 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: and even then they struggled with it a little. He's 431 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: been He's missed twenty games since two thousand fifteen, four suspensions. Again, 432 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: no general manager would have okayed that trade. It's just stupid. 433 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: And again I'm not anti acquiring Mark Tavis Bryan. I'd 434 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: be okay taking a flyer on him, but a third 435 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: round pick for a guy that's one test away from 436 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: marijuana to never play in the in the NFL again, 437 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: and then to take arden Key another guy that has 438 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: been to marijuana rehab. People always tell me marijuana is 439 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: not addicting, yet all these guys end up going to rehab. Again, 440 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm not anti marijuana, but you're bringing you're basically bringing 441 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: an alcoholic to the bar. This guy has been to 442 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: marijuana rehab and you're bringing him in Northern California like John. 443 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: Those are major risks. And again, when John came up, 444 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: it was not a big deal. I don't know if 445 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: he's a little removed from it doesn't quite understand, you 446 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: can only control these guys so much. And these guys 447 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: are telling you. I know, Colin Cowards says it all 448 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: the time. People will tell you what they are Just 449 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: listen to him. Arden Key and Martevius Bryant have told 450 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: you they cannot put down marijuana. To take a risk 451 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: on drafting one guy in the third round and then 452 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: using another third round pick on Martevious Bryant is crazy. 453 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: So again, starting where this whole conversation started, I completely 454 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: understand Mark Davis handing him the to the keys of 455 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: the franchise. It's what he had to do to get 456 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: him to sign up. I would have done the same 457 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: thing too, but I would have tried to make sure 458 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: and as quickly as possible, because every draft is important, 459 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: especially for a team that's kind of equipped to win. 460 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they got franchise players at the two most 461 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: important positions, quarterback and outside pass rusher. They got one 462 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: of the best young quarterbacks in the league and arguably 463 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: the best outside young pass rusher in the NFL, probably 464 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: the best in Clil Mac. So to make these crazy egregious, 465 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, just swing for the fences moves not only unnecessary, 466 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: but the likelihood of backfiring because you can't control it 467 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: is a little crazy given the price that they paid. 468 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: I watched Gruten's draft and just go, I don't know 469 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: if this guy has a great feel for value, and 470 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: in fairness to Gruten, in my experience and now watching 471 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: the league for a living for the last five six years, 472 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: most coaches don't. That's where general managers come in. That's 473 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: where they help you balance and understand the big picture. 474 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: That's why usually they're in charge of trades. That's why 475 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: Howie Roseman of the Eagles or Parrague Marate of the 476 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: forty Niners deal with the trades, not the coach, not 477 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: even the general manager, because they would make mistakes. They 478 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: get emotional, they get tunnel vision of of week one, 479 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: even though it's you know, late April and right now. 480 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: To me, the the success big picture of John Gruden 481 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: because I get I think he's gonna be a good coach. 482 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be excellent, but he's gonna need 483 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: some help and he's gonna need to hire someone that 484 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: he respects because he needs a little balance in that office. 485 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: That clearly Reggie's he doesn't care what Reggie says, so 486 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: he needs to hire his John Schneider, his John Dorsey, 487 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: his bread veach, his guy that can go you know what, coach. 488 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: That's a terrible idea, And even if they yell at 489 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: each other and get into a healthy argument, that they 490 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: come to the right conclusion and they don't do something 491 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: stupid like giving a third round pick for a guy 492 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: that's failed multiple marijuana tests and been suspended twenty games. 493 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: Bring him to northern California, where you it's easier to 494 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: get marijuana than it is to get a good cheeseburger. 495 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: So I think that growed he might be able to 496 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: overcome it this year, just because the team was already 497 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: so good regardless of these characterists and the guys he acquired. 498 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: But he needs front office help, and he needs it quickly. 499 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: We do it every week on this show. Let's get 500 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: into some of the questions that you guys add and 501 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: this question might take a little while, So it's gonna 502 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: be the only question I take this week, just because 503 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: based on the draft and it was an excellent question, 504 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna use it as a topic anyway. Kobe 505 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: d basically writes what picks did you like and dislike? 506 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: And was there anything in the draft that really surprised you. 507 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: Let's just go over really quick and I may I'm 508 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: gonna stick to the first round, the picks that I 509 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: really liked, and then the picks that I disliked. The 510 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: first pick that I loved. I think this guy was 511 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: Ultimately My favorite player in the draft was the Chicago 512 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: Bears at number eight, getting ro Kuan Smith Vic Fangio, 513 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator, one of the best defensive coordinators in 514 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: in the entire league, who also has a history in 515 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: turning linebackers into absolute monsters. Just look what he did 516 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: with Jim Harbaugh. Now, Patrick Willis was already humming, but 517 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: with Navarro Bowman turned him into a borderline Hall of 518 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: Fame level player until his knee snapped. He is gonna 519 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: have ro Kuwan Smith destroying people on a weekly basis. 520 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: That defense is gonna be so much better because of 521 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: Roe Kwan Smith, that that team is gonna be really good. 522 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: I think the Chicago Bears are when you a classic 523 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: teams drafting in the top ten, that all of a 524 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: sudden is you know, eight and eight, nine, seven and 525 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: really competitive. I like the Bears to be really solid 526 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: this year. I loved ro Kuan Smith and they also 527 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: got a little lucky. Obviously three of the four quarterbacks 528 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: went above them. Quentin Nelson to me, was the big, 529 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: the big swing, the swing pick that pushed rokuwand to them. 530 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: And I didn't dislike to pick because I do get it. 531 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: While I wouldn't take a guard that high the Colts 532 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: and Chris Bowler taking Quentin Nelson at number six enabled 533 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears the land roll. Kuan Smiths loved the pick. 534 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: Derwin James, San Diego, Los Angeles whatever, I still call him, 535 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: the San Diego Charters at seventeen, Listen, Derwin James easily 536 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: could have gone to nine or ten to the Niners 537 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: or to the Oakland Raids at ten before they traded back. 538 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: And John Lynch said this week maybe he said it 539 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: on on after the three of the draft, that beside McGlinchey, 540 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: that Derwin James was their best interview of the sixty 541 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: guys they interviewed at the combine, just in terms of intelligence, 542 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: in terms of owning the room and basically a scouting 543 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: report says he changes a locker room to land him 544 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: at seventeen, he easily, and I repeat easily, could have 545 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: been a top ten pick in a really good first 546 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: round and they get him at seventeen. That's an incredible pick. Again, 547 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: the number one word I use when talking about the 548 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: draft is value. That is incredible value and to pare 549 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: him up. Also with Gus Bradley, that has a long 550 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: history of maximizing safeties and turning guys like that into superstars. 551 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: Love the pick, love the fit, and you gotta give 552 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: Tom to LESCo and the Chargers credit. Sometimes in the draft, 553 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: not being aggressive and letting people freak out in front 554 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: of you works to your advantage and things just fall 555 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: into your lap. You saw it a couple of times 556 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: in this draft. You saw it with John Elway, where 557 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb just sat just hung back and let madness 558 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: and sue. He landed Bradley Chubb at five, who easily 559 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: could have been number one overall in this draft. The 560 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: Chargers just let crazy trays happen in front of them 561 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: one after another. Derwin James falls to them at seventeen. 562 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, I don't think the difference just in running 563 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: backs in general. They'll say Juan Barkley, and we talked 564 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: about it earlier on this podcast. My favorite the best, 565 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: not my favorite, just the best running back in this draft. 566 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: But when I look at value to get Sony Michelle 567 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: at pick thirty one, do you know how good he's 568 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: gonna be with Belichick, Brady and Josh McDaniels, how productive 569 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: he should be, not just as a running back but 570 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: in the passing game. What a pick, and it really 571 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: speaks to the how damn good Georgia's running game was. 572 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: They had two running backs go one went thirty one 573 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: and I think Nick Chubb went like four or five 574 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: picks later to the Cleveland Browns. You get two running 575 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: backs going in the top thirty seven picks. That's pretty 576 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: damn good. No wonder they were the National championship. But 577 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: I love Sony Michelle with New England. I think he's 578 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: gonna be dynamic. I think he's gonna be versatile. Uh. 579 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: They had a hole with Dion Dion Lewis leaving. He 580 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: went to the Tennessee Titans. Uh, they needed to fill that. 581 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: I think they upgraded and Dion is a good player, 582 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: but Sony's on a completely different level as a talent. 583 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: Some picks I did not like. Let's start with this now, 584 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: I like the player. I loved him as a potential 585 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: second round pick. I watched a lot of the late 586 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: like CBS games of the Mountain West Conference, and I 587 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: stumbled upon a lot of San Diego State games. Rare 588 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: Shod Penny. I think he's a stud. I loved him 589 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: in the second round, middle of the second round. But Seattle, 590 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: who as long as Russell Wilson's there and Pete Carroll's there, 591 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: there is a ton of pressure on that just the franchise. 592 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: It's playoffs are bust every year and since more Shawn 593 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 1: Lynch he didn't I mean he retired, but he really 594 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: remember he was banged up that last year. He was 595 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: kind of a shell of himself for them, They're running 596 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: game has not been the same. It has been terrible 597 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: at Pete Carroll's core. He wants to run the ball 598 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: down your throat. So in theory, I like, you know, 599 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Rashad Penny and Seattle, it makes some sense. But when 600 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: you take him in the first round, given how big 601 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: of a hole it was on your team, the pressure 602 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: that goes on this player who's coming from a smaller 603 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: school where I don't know if you've ever flipped onto 604 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: a San Diego State game on the CBS network or 605 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: wherever the hell they play there. There's about ten people 606 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: in the stands at Qualcom Stadium down in San Diego, like, 607 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: there's not much pressure on the kid. And listen again, 608 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: I like him, but I don't that pick. Given some 609 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: other guys that were on the board, I would have 610 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: rather traded back one more time and taking Penny in 611 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: the later rounds. And I know Schneider said, and I 612 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: think Mike Silver tweeted this that the Browns love Penny 613 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: and maybe they would have taken him with a first 614 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: pick in the second round. But man, I I don't 615 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: know if I love the pick from I understand it 616 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: from a value standpoint, he was gonna go right around there. 617 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: But from a football standpoint, when you factor in the pressure, 618 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: what's gonna be asked of him? Pete Carroll has already 619 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: talked he needs to improve as a past protector or 620 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: to stay on the field on all three downs, which 621 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna ask him to do. You have to be 622 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: able to block, and he can't do that right now. 623 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: I think that was a pretty aggressive pick given how 624 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: big the need was at that position for for John Schneider, 625 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson, that entire franchise, the last pick 626 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: that Listen, I get it. I understand just when we 627 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 1: talk about a player ceiling, how much upside they have. Uh, 628 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: just pure talent. Josh Allen, you can't dispute just his 629 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: physical gifts, but quarterback is about so much more than 630 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: physical traits. On the most basic level, from a physical stamp, 631 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: you have to complete pass us he does not. Uh. 632 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: And then also coming from a such a small school 633 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: to go that high, to go to a team that 634 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, when's the last time they had 635 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: a good quarterback Jim Kelly that he's gonna function at 636 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: a high level in Buffalo, in that division in the 637 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: freezing cold, and now I know Wyomings the weather is 638 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: not great, but he's never played in a big game 639 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: in his life. I think that's a massive stretch. I 640 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: knew he was gonna go high. We all kind of did. 641 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: I just could not have drafted, uh, Josh Allen, especially 642 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: when Josh Rosen was on in the draft. And that 643 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: leads me to the biggest surprise in this draft. It 644 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: was just simply that I guess it was too good 645 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: to be true that the quarterbacks went one two three, four. 646 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: But I keep reading that the quarterbacks, you know they fell? 647 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: Did they really fall? Because ultimately four quarterbacks went in 648 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: the top ten, three in the top seven. I mean 649 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: that's still pretty rich. You're still paying a premium and 650 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: two of those quarterbacks actually three because if you count 651 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: the Jets who traded up now is before the draft. 652 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: The Bills traded up on Draft Day, and same with 653 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. I went, if you went through the picks 654 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: the did the Colts acquired that Tampa required and the 655 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: Raiders required in trading back for all those quarterbacks so 656 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: the team could come up and get them. That's a 657 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: lot of picks. That's a lot of draft capital, a 658 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: lot of equity that you're giving up to get these guys. 659 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: So they quote unquote fell given how high our expectations were, 660 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: and I was one of them, I thought they had 661 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: a chance to go definitely four in the top five. 662 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: But they still four win in the top ten, and 663 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, who I thought was the best quarterback of 664 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: the bunch, ended up going ten to Arizona. That's pretty 665 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: crazy that there's not a team that was more desperate 666 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: for a quarterback, a future quarterback than the Cardinals, Carson 667 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: Palmer disappearity retired Sam Bradford will be hurt by training camp. 668 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: They do. I mean, they're gonna need a quarterback and 669 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: they get the most pro ready, most talented guy have 670 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: the bunch did. Buffalo had their choice between Josh Allen 671 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: and Josh Rosen, and they went with Josh Allen. That's 672 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: pretty dust. That's a pretty big roll of the dice 673 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 1: because if the Bills would have taken Josh Rosen, even 674 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: if he didn't work out, I think everyone would have 675 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: understood it. If Josh Allen fails, flames out, and just 676 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: is not very good, they're gonna get a lot of 677 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: I told you so, because the random fan on Twitter 678 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: that follows the draft has a pretty good idea that 679 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen wasn't gonna be a very good NFL pro 680 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: mainly because he's never been that good in college, in 681 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: junior college, in high school. He's his lifelong resume at 682 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: playing the quarterback position is average below average talented, but 683 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: he's not an actual good player win the game him starts, 684 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: which last time I checked, is pretty important. You actually 685 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: have to be good at quarterback if you want you 686 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: Actually you don't need to be good at quarterback to 687 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: get drafted high. We've seen a lot of shitty quarterbacks 688 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: over the years to get drafted high, but to sustain 689 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: and play for a while in the NFL, you do 690 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: have to be functional to be a starter. And I 691 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna be the case for Josh Allen. 692 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm betting against it. So leave your questions where every 693 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts, if you go to iTunes, 694 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: subscribe rate, leave your questions in the review section and 695 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: I'll answer them every week. I'm gonna need you. Moving forward, 696 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: the drafts over, we'll get into O T A s. 697 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: There'll be some movement. Uh. There's still some pretty good 698 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: players left on the free agent market. UH as reports 699 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: come out about how rookies are playing, how some of 700 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks. We'll be locked in here. We'll cover everything, 701 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: and I think we'll start getting in a little more 702 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: I guess closer maybe to the season with some college 703 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 1: football stuff as some of the SEC Big twelve, Big 704 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: ten media days coming about. We'll definitely talk college football 705 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: in here. But I appreciate everyone listening. You guys make 706 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: the show. Uh This John Middle Coop three and Out 707 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: podcast brought to you by the Colin Coward Podcast Network