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Speaker 1: Riding along in the autimal Got a question about that

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Speaker 1: odd noise your car is making. Not sure how to

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Speaker 1: understand the fine prints in that car lease you're about

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Speaker 1: the sign? Then this is where to turn for help.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. That's the thing. Rodinanian is

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Speaker 1: here to answer your questions about cars. Give him a call.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the car doctor, Ron Ananian.

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Speaker 2: Talking about.

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Speaker 3: Just when things started to look up for the US

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Speaker 3: auto sector, there seems to be a credit crunch on

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Speaker 3: its way. Article on MSNBC dot com and out in

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Speaker 3: the papers across the country this week. Just when the

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Speaker 3: US automotive sector look to be getting its legs underneath

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Speaker 3: itself after a year's long slump, another stumbling block has

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Speaker 3: come along to knockoff its kilter.

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Speaker 2: The credit crunch.

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Speaker 3: The ongoing pain in the housing sector, including higher monthly

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Speaker 3: payments for some owners and declining home values for others,

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Speaker 3: is persuading many Americans that buying a car is not

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Speaker 3: a good idea right now. According to market research company

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Speaker 3: CNW Marketing Research, Recent polling by the company shows that

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Speaker 3: nearly eighteen percent of people in the market for a

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Speaker 3: car or a truck are delaying their purchases because of

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Speaker 3: home related issues, up from nine percent in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and six. Now, if you recall we've had conversation you

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Speaker 3: and I in recent times that the number four people

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Speaker 3: that are tied to the automotive industry, in other words,

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Speaker 3: the number of jobs. If you sat and took our

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Speaker 3: sample poll of people that are tied to the automotive

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Speaker 3: inde industry, you would find that somewhere between six and

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Speaker 3: seven out of every job in this country, six out

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Speaker 3: of seven, out of ten people are tied to the

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Speaker 3: automotive industry.

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Speaker 2: To people that make the wire for the car, the

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Speaker 2: people that make the paint for the car.

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Speaker 3: The transportation, not just the assembly line workers, the people

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Speaker 3: that make the engines and the transmissions, the things that

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Speaker 3: are easy to see, but everything that suppliers, the vendors,

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Speaker 3: the marketing, the advertising.

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Speaker 2: The number is six to seven.

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Speaker 3: Out of every job in this country, out of ten

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Speaker 3: is tied to the automotive industry. So the housing market

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Speaker 3: problem has already spilled over into the automotive market in

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Speaker 3: terms of creating a problem there.

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Speaker 2: The article goes on. Other data shows.

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Speaker 3: Consumers may be turning their attention to used cars instead.

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Speaker 3: According to automotive information website edminds dot com. Online interest

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Speaker 3: in used cars is up twenty four percent this year

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Speaker 3: over last year, while interest in luxury cars is down

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Speaker 3: nineteen percent and interest in economy cars, typically small and

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Speaker 3: expensive models, is up eighteen percent. Sounds like the numbers

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Speaker 3: you're really pointing towards the fact that the consumer is

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Speaker 3: really looking for.

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Speaker 2: A cheap, reliable ride.

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Speaker 3: Adding to the lack of enthusiasm for new cars it

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Speaker 3: are not offering the same enticing incentives as in years past.

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Speaker 3: These incentives, whether rebates or zero percent financing options, are

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Speaker 3: designed to lure car buyers into automotive showrooms, but auto

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Speaker 3: deals are not as sweet as they were in recent

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Speaker 3: years when automakers were on a stronger financial footing, says

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Speaker 3: George Mangliana, director of Automotive Industry Research for the Americans

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Speaker 3: at Global Insight. Manufacturers are tightening up on this, he

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Speaker 3: has told CNBC. Fundamentally, we think the consumer has been

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Speaker 3: hit hard by the declining, declining housing market and also

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Speaker 3: So it's not just the short run impact of the

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Speaker 3: credit crunch that's having an impact here. We're going to

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Speaker 3: maybe now is the time to start thinking the cheapest

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's time to think.

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Speaker 3: Repair, not necessarily purchase. Hello and welcome to the car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: My name is Ron and any And aka the card Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Right now there is a few people looking for me.

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Speaker 3: Let's kick the garage doors open. Let's go over and

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Speaker 3: talk to Howard from the Bronx with an six Toyota camera. Yes, Howard, welcome.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for thinking my call. Nice walk

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Speaker 4: with you again. What I clean? First of all, is

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Speaker 4: it necessary to clean the battery terminals because the last

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Speaker 4: the ignition is not hot when the engine is off,

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Speaker 4: I want to hook up my battery pack to the

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Speaker 4: For you know, when I unhooked the battery all the

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Speaker 3: What do you think of that you bring up some

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Speaker 4: Howard.

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Speaker 3: You know at the shop we use, you've seen those

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Speaker 3: jumper packs, those battery jumper packs, yes, okay, And then

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Speaker 3: if you look on the side of your battery jumper pack,

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Speaker 3: there's a twelve vault cigarette lighter plug where an auxiliary

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Speaker 3: adapter can go in. We've actually made a cable up

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Speaker 3: twelve vault cigarette lighter adapter and we've made it to

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Speaker 3: an OBD two connector. So when we disconnect a battery

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Speaker 3: on a ninety six or newer vehicle, we will actually

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Speaker 3: hold memory, because you are correct. If you don't hold memory,

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Speaker 3: you will lose monitor settings, you will lose adaptive fuel

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Speaker 2: Drive by wire vehicles.

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Speaker 3: If you don't hold battery settings, you will lose the

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Speaker 3: computer's ability to reference zero and see where it needs

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Speaker 3: to be from a base Rottal plate point so that

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Speaker 3: it can actually make the car run. You can put

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Speaker 3: a battery in some vehicles today and by disconnecting the

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Speaker 3: battery terminals and without holding memory, actually cause that car

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Speaker 3: a great deal. So yes, if you can find a

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Speaker 3: you're not going to make up the cable, But if

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Speaker 3: itself as you gently lift them off, I think that

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Speaker 3: would be a great idea. It would hold memory and

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Speaker 4: Okay, I want my son's Monte Carlo. He has a

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Speaker 4: special thing that he puts into his twelve vault outlet

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Speaker 4: and he has a twelve vault battery, that square.

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Speaker 3: Battery, right, he has a little nine vault battery.

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Speaker 2: He has a memory saver.

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Speaker 4: A memory saver. But you can work online, right.

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Speaker 3: And part of the reason is because your Toyota the

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Speaker 3: son's doing and what we're doing. When we do it,

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Speaker 3: we apply power through the OBD two connector, which always

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Speaker 4: That way, Can I do damage to the car if

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Speaker 4: I just took up my battery pack, you know, to.

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Speaker 2: The battery cables themselves.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just you know, I know where the good

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Speaker 3: If you find a good ground, and if and you

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Speaker 3: put your hot lead down at the starter.

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Speaker 3: Because that's the other end of the positive cable. That's

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Speaker 3: a normal camera should, where your fusible links come off

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Speaker 3: the positive battery post and then feed the circuitry of

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Speaker 3: the car. If you apply the hot at the starter

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Speaker 2: Either way, it's going to work even.

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Speaker 4: If I put it on the table itself.

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Speaker 4: Okay, That's what I'm gonna do. Fast question ahead. But

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Speaker 4: my son that he hasn't to call when he changes

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Speaker 4: the tires to the front of the back is the

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Speaker 4: sense of that that sense is a tire.

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Speaker 2: Pressure right to TPMs.

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Speaker 4: Right, it lights up on the dashboard.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And what does he do to correct it?

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Speaker 4: Nothing? He puts it, you know, he waits and then

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Speaker 4: he puts it back and then the light goes out.

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Speaker 4: When he reverses the tires.

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Speaker 3: Now does it tell him tire pressure lower or does

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Speaker 2: Tire that's low?

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Speaker 4: No tire pressure low.

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Speaker 2: Tire pressure low?

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Speaker 3: The reason is, does his vehicle have the ability to

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Speaker 3: tell you exactly which tire?

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Speaker 4: I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: If he's rotating the tires, Howard look at his valve stems.

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Speaker 3: If his val what your money, Carlo?

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Speaker 4: Is it two thousand and one?

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Speaker 3: He has all right? Then that's why he has a system.

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Speaker 3: He probably has black rubber valve stems in that vehicle,

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Speaker 3: and it has a non active or a passive TPMs

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Speaker 3: There's circumference of the tire when he rotates the tires.

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Speaker 3: The computer now gets a sense through the ABS wheel

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Speaker 3: speed sensor, tire revolutions that all of a sudden, tire

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Speaker 3: diameter has changed, because now it's reporting different location, different

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Speaker 3: the right side of his dashboard there'll be a liftoff panel,

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Speaker 3: or it will.

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Speaker 2: Be through the control head of the radio.

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Speaker 3: He needs to read his owner's manual for an exact

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Speaker 3: procedure and reset the TPMs system so it can now

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Speaker 3: learn those four tires in their new position.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome, Howard. Good luck to you. I' Ron

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Speaker 2: and any and the car Doctor. I'll be back right

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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 3: Time the window I'll be shining new tags and telling

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Speaker 3: me then there I said.

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Speaker 4: You rock.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, hey, welcome back, Ronning Ady and the car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Let's answer a quick email question. Hey, Ron, your show's

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Speaker 3: the best. When are you go into three hours?

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Speaker 5: Gee?

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I could I stay awake

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Speaker 3: for three hours? That would sort of be a trip

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Speaker 3: and a half. I've got a question about fuel trim.

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Speaker 3: I had a late model Ford Mustang and it runs good.

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Speaker 3: But I have a question regarding my fuel economy, and

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Speaker 3: I want to know if you think long term fuel

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Speaker 3: trim below ten percent is a problem. Could you please

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Speaker 3: explain it to me? And let me know exactly how

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Speaker 3: does fuel trim work ps.

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Speaker 2: I've been using.

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Speaker 3: I've been using the three M waxes and cleaner since

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Speaker 3: you recommended it, and I find that they work really well.

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Speaker 3: It makes my new Mustang shine and polish like the

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Speaker 3: jewel that it is. Thanks John from New Jersey. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, John, that three M, those three

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Speaker 3: M waxes and polishes that they've come out with this

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Speaker 3: year really do stand out in the crowd.

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Speaker 3: We've been using them on a lot of the vehicles

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Speaker 2: That's your plus.

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Speaker 3: So plus ten percent means that the computer is adding

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Speaker 3: Long term fuel trim is driven by short term fuel trim.

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Speaker 3: But bottom line, that's how the numbers fall together, zero

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Hyundai it'll take and run by and everything,

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Speaker 3: It cranks though it cranks, Yeah, it'll crank all day

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Speaker 5: Right, And I checked it for spark and there's no sparks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if there's no spark. And I don't know how

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Speaker 3: What's common on the hondais what's common on that particular

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Speaker 3: I have to give them credit. If you're looking for

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Speaker 5: Okay, And that's just If.

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Speaker 3: You Google search Hyundai Hyundai service information, it'll come up.

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Speaker 2: I think it's h M M I NFO dot com

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Speaker 3: They don't make it. That's the one bad side. But

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Speaker 5: Okay, sir, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Give me a call, let me know

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Speaker 3: We'll kind of go from there. Hey, going back to

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Speaker 3: everything else. Milelli said. Volatility in global credit markets is

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Speaker 3: A change in interest rates is going to have an

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Speaker 3: turn tell well, let's see, that'll have an impact on

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Speaker 2: Maybe the cheapest car.

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Speaker 3: You already own is Maybe the cheapest car you can

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