1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Warning, this podcast can dad spoilers for a season four 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: episode three of Succession on HBO X plus season two 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: episode three of Yellow Jackets on the believed Showtime Network. Hello, 4 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: my name is Jason Contepsi and I'm Rosey Night and 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: welcome next Revision the Crooked Media podcast where we dive 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: deep it's your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. 7 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: In this episode, Market Moves. The market is. 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: Moving market all over the place. 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 3: It's moving off the Succession season four episode three, which 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: we will be talking about Airlock. 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: It's Yellow Jacket season two episode three. Things also going 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: very badly there, yes, only getting hurt, only getting. 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: Worse and in the nedout victim it is us on 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: the two thousand and five film Sky High. 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: Coming up, Market Moves, Here comes the bride Logan Roy 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 4: has died, his heart took a shit in the bathroom. 17 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: In the sky. 18 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: Who will succeed to Logans thrown? 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: The board will have to choose. Welcome to Market, Buket. 20 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: Market moves, folks to give your number one source. 21 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: For stocks, bonds, crypto currency and all forms of financial information. 22 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: We can't wait to update you on the latest goings 23 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: on with the Roy Star Gojo deal. And here's the latest. 24 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: It's Connor and Will's wedding day. Roman Roy feels a 25 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: call from his father Logan. Roman asks Logan, Dad, are 26 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: you coming to your son Connor's wedding? And it's a 27 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: definite maybe. It's a hard maybe because Logan has to 28 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: go to Sweden where Lucas Mattson awaits. Lucas getting cold 29 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: feet might pull out of the Gojo deal, and so 30 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Logan has to go there along with Carrie and Carl 31 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: and Tom and Frank to pour some honey and Lucas's 32 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: ear keep that Gojo deal alive. But he wants Roman 33 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: to do one important thing for him to prove his loyalty. 34 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: He gotta fire Jerry, who you know. Listen, I know 35 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Son that you've had a close relationship with Jerry. That's 36 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: why I should come from you, and you should do 37 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: it as soon as possible. 38 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: This is a personal attack on Roman by Logan. 39 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely this is only done to fuck with him, like, absolutely, 40 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: no question. 41 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: As Logan boards the Fateful plane, we also learned that 42 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: he intends to fire Sid. He wants Sid out. He 43 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: tells that to Tom. This clears the way for Tom's 44 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: ascendency to the time of atn Meanwhile, on the wedding barge, 45 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: the kids, Greg, Ken, Roman, Shiv, plus Jerry and of 46 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: course the bride and groom are all in attendance. The 47 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: kids are talking amongst themselves about the Gojo deal. Roman 48 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: gets ready to uh to, you know, fire Jerry, which 49 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: he does even though he kind of doesn't want to. 50 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: He's said, Jerry is pissed. That brings us to our 51 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: first question of today. Buy or sell Jerry and Sid 52 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: who stays? Who goes? Do they both stay? Do they 53 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: both go? Does one stay in one go? What's gonna 54 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: happen with Jerry and Sid? 55 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: Bye Bye bye Jerry. Jerry is in line to succeed. 56 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: Jerry is on top. This is gonna happen. I believe 57 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: that Logan was fucking with Roman, but he did want 58 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: Jerry out. 59 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: But by the end of this episode. 60 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: What Logan wants is irrelevant, absolutely fucking irrelevant. So I 61 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: say Sid, I think Tom is a brutal person and 62 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: throat and will do what he will, so he will 63 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: spread that news about Sid as much as he can. 64 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: Roman is the only one and Kerry but also irrelevant. Sorry, 65 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: my dear, but It's true. Roman is really the only 66 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: one that knows about the Jerry situation. So I believe 67 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: Jerry is staying, and I believe Jerry could become the 68 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: most powerful person in the com. 69 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: Carolina also knew, but kind of Carolina will just we're 70 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: whichever way the wind blows, Carolina will go that way. 71 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, she's not like Tom. 72 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: She's not going to try and use that information to 73 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: usurp anyone. Tom will use the information about Sid to 74 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: help his own ascendancy, whereas if Jerry's in power, no 75 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: one's gonna argue. 76 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, you mentioned Jerry in power, and it was 77 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: suggested in previous episodes of Succession that should Logan step 78 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: aside or whatever, the interim CEO would likely be Jerry 79 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: until such time as the board could select someone more permanent. 80 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: So it really does feel as if Jerry's as general 81 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: counsel is kind of going to be running stuff until 82 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: the board decides on which of the kids is more 83 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: amenable to And I agree with you. It feels like Sid. 84 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: There are just more knives out for Sid, I think, 85 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: and Sid I don't know that she has necessarily a 86 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: protector in this situation. A lot of people carry number 87 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: one amongst them find themselves without a chair in this 88 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: game of musical chairs. Now that Logan has gone, but 89 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you by Jerry sell Sid Next, Connor 90 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: is very anxious about the wedding cake, and this has 91 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: to do with the fact that Victoria's sponge cake was 92 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: the cake that Logan told him to eat after he 93 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: sent Connor's mother to a mental health facility aka, in 94 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: Roman's words, the funny farm. 95 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: I need to know why was this not on the 96 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: wedding clans. 97 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: Why did he not mention no Victoria sponge cake, no 98 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: Victoria's lunch. 99 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: I mean, this is traumatic. 100 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: His mom was sectioned so that Logan could go on 101 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: his merry way Henry the Eighth style, and he. 102 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: Gave his son Victoria's spongecake. 103 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: Here he is on the happiest day of his life, 104 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: marrying Paul Willa, and there's. 105 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: A Victoria spongecake. This is terrible. I actually am on 106 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Connor's side. 107 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeahard the wedding clana, but they should have told the wedding. 108 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: This is unbelievably just an unbelievably dark detail. Shiv gets 109 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: a couple of calls from Tom which we think nothing 110 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: of two calls, she sends her both to voicemail. That's 111 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: unfortunate because had she picked up there, she would have 112 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: understood that Logan was on his journey to the big 113 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: shitter in the sky, attended to the rhythmic drumming of 114 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: chest compressions done by the flight attendant. And as it 115 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: turns out, Roman takes the call from Tom. Tom I 116 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: think generously puts his cell phone near Logan's cold dead 117 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: ear and lets Roman and Ken say goodbye to their dad. Shiv, 118 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: who had gone off to deal with Connor, eventually gets 119 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: her turn as well. Notable fact about the kind of 120 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: type of person that Logan roy was that each of 121 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: his children in turn, when they get their their moment 122 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: next to their their dad's quickly icyeing ear is after 123 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: saying you know we love you, they all say some 124 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: version of I can't forgive you for all the fame 125 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: you were a terrible po On his deathbed, They're all like, 126 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: I care forgive you. So that brings us to our 127 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: next prompt. Who are you betting on? Who is gonna 128 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: be the next CEO of wastear Roco? Who do you got? 129 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Ken? Is it gonna be Roman? 130 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Shiv? Is it gonna be Tom? 131 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Greg? Is it gonna be Hugo? 132 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be is gonna be Frank? You know. 133 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: You have yet to mention the one person that I 134 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: oldly think the board is gonna back. 135 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: Tell me. 136 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna back Connor because they can just 137 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: tell him to do whatever. 138 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: They would be amazing, how funny would that be. 139 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: Connor hates Logan, he knows that he is unwanted. But 140 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: if you put Kendall, Shiv or Roman in that board seat, 141 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,119 Speaker 3: they are going to be trying to do hostile takeovers. 142 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: They have the attention span of five year olds. By 143 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: the way, they do not know how to make a deal. 144 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Even in this episode we see Shift say one thing 145 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: to the press, then immediately go back on it because 146 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: she needs to state her claim on what's going on. 147 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: I think there's a verse version. 148 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: I think Jerry will likely get power soon because they 149 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: need an interim CEO, and the kids actually have backed 150 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: Jerry in the past. Like I don't think there would 151 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: be an issue there, But I think there's a terrible 152 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: version of this. 153 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: I thought that without these events which I did not 154 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: see coming. 155 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: I must say congratulations to Brian Cox for escaping this 156 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: set and escaping Jeremy Strong. 157 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm proud of you, Brian. I'm happy for you. 158 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: I'm happy Logan is dead because he's a terrible person. 159 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: I thought there was a version where we would see 160 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: Logan use ATM to essentially get Connor into a very 161 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: strong political position, and I thought that would be a 162 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: very good, bleak kind of reality and the analogous to 163 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: the Fox News and the way the Murdocks use Fox News. 164 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: Without that in plate, I actually think we could see 165 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: Connor get the board backing to be the CEO because 166 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: they see him as a puppet. 167 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: Now they see him as someone with no vested interest. 168 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: Would he have to forego his presidential campaign his dreams 169 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: of the highest office in the Republic. Would he not 170 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: have to suspend his campaign until further notice? Should he 171 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: decide take up the top spot at waste ar Royco. 172 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: I will say that post this wedding, which he was 173 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 3: doing to keep his one percent, you know there, the 174 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: one vaguely human thing that happens this episode is the 175 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: choice to go on with the wedding and only like 176 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: five people are there, and Logan's death absolutely out shines 177 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: and once again takes all the emphasis off Connor and 178 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 3: Connor's life and Connor's feelings. And I wonder if that 179 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: one percent is not going to even be there after this, 180 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: because being a roy means nothing without Logan, and also 181 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: the attention that he was hoping to grab with this 182 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: ridiculous you know, statue of Liberty Barge wedding is to 183 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: be seen because Logan takes the stage, so he would 184 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: have to morally and ethically and legally drop out. But 185 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: I wonder if he would already be in that position 186 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: and the board is offered him as a way of saying, well, 187 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: you're not going to be president, but can you imagine 188 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: if Shiv and moment and. 189 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: To him, well, it is quite clear that with this, 190 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, with with Logan's quickly putrefying corpse, hour of 191 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: the way, Uh, what we're going to see towards you know, 192 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: in this the rest of this final season is going 193 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: to be the interne scene fight for the top spot 194 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: at Royko. We're going to see the kids torn apart, 195 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna see Sandy. 196 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: The first season promise. 197 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it. This is now the true successions 198 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: on it. 199 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: He actually dies. It's so smart. Also, can I just 200 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: ask you before him? 201 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: Sure? 202 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: It's important question. 203 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: Was Logan's death in the toilet? Was this like a 204 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: mile high situation? 205 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you asked this. I do have this 206 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: on my checklist. I think that this is one implied. 207 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: I think that there's it's implied a little bit the 208 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: way Carrie comes into, you know, into the room where 209 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: Frank and Carl and Caroline are are starting to kind 210 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: of flesh out what the response is going to be, right, 211 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: she comes in with just this like like, oh my god, 212 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: you guys, it was fucking crazy, what you know? Like 213 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: that scene's this grins more listen, who knows. We all 214 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: respond to stress and death in different ways. But it 215 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: seemed as if she was taking it in a way 216 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: that she was very very shaken me and perhaps there 217 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: and I will say that it would not surprise me 218 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: at all if as part of this kind of knives 219 00:12:53,760 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: out fight that is coming, that that narrative isn't put 220 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: out there by Shiv or one of the kids that oh, 221 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: how do you go? He went? He was with Kerry 222 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: in the in the mathroom. That's I went or one 223 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: of one of his enemies. I'm sure that that will 224 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: I think that that will be said. I will say, or. 225 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: Even one of the board just to carry out. 226 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: You don't need to cut her out. She's got nothing novant. 227 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: She is a dead guy's former assistant. That's it. I 228 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: will say my pick for CEO, I'm gonna go with 229 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: the the the Jerry Roman duo. This is Roman had 230 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: pitched this to Jerry. I love that in past seasons 231 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: to run it as Batman and Robin. Jerry is the 232 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: front person. Roman is the kind of Tarzan swinging through 233 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: the trees. And I think that we will end up 234 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: back at that. 235 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: I think that's my that's my favorite pick if it 236 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: was just about a choice. 237 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: Back to our sorry. Word is starting to trickle out 238 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: now that the Big Man has died, and it starts 239 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: with Connor. Connor gets it is he takes He takes 240 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: it extremely stoically. I mean he takes it like he 241 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: and he just he just eats the punch, although he 242 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: eventually gets more emotional. H And now people are starting 243 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: to think about the effect of this news on the market. 244 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: On the plane, Caroline and Frank and Carl are putting 245 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: together their action plan. People need to be notified, mattson 246 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: the board, et cetera. Wasttar needs a message to kind 247 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: of soothe the market. Considering that Logan was, you know, 248 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: seen as you know, basically the driving force of Waytar 249 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: Roy car So what is the market's response gonna be 250 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: now that he's gone. They make it very clear to 251 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: a very frazzled Carrie that her skills i e. Fucking 252 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: Logan Roy potentially in the bathroom in his final moments, 253 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: are no longer needed. We don't need those kind of 254 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: skills anymore. On the boat, Tom tells Greg the news 255 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: and then tells him, Hey, stick with Sid delete certain 256 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: files on my computer. I'd love to know what that's about. 257 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: I gotta know what that's a time? 258 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: Why does also like why does he trust Greg? Who 259 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: I sweat to God almost immediately leaks this like very 260 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: important news, and that's kind of why he told him. 261 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: He says, Greg, people need to know I was that 262 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: Logan And then yeah, unbelievable. 263 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: And then he makes sure to tell Greg that get 264 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: ready to start spreading the news that Logan wanted Sid 265 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: out in his final moments. The kids, meanwhile on the 266 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: boat are debating the wisdom of even offering a statement 267 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: right now, and they wonder whether they should buy time 268 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: by maybe having the plane with Logan's dead body on 269 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: its circle for a little while. Not in a long time, 270 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: but just like an hour or a couple hours or 271 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: something like that. Willa admits that the wedding is in 272 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: large part inspired by money, by Conner's money. Money is 273 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: a factor, she says, but she frames it as security, 274 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: which is I think is a nice way to say. 275 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: It was a very sweet scene. 276 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: Naturally, it was a very It was like the most 277 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: honest thing that happened between them, probably throughout the whole area. 278 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Con admits that he is, you know, feeling quite 279 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: creaky and old, considering that he is thirty years Willis 280 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: senior and his dad just died. Carolina then tells the 281 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: kids that, hey, the news is starting to leak now, 282 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: so we have to really are under the gun now. 283 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: We got to get our response together. Jerry makes some 284 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: suggestions again, acting like she was never fired, which makes 285 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: a lot of sense, And now the maneuvering is just 286 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: starting to begin. The kids, the plane, folks, Jerry, everyone 287 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: is kind of jostling to be included in whatever statement 288 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: is eventually issued. The press is there to meet the 289 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: Death Bird. At the airport, we see Colin Logan's body man, 290 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: who Logan told two episodes ago that he was his 291 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: best friend. Colin looks absolutely shattered. He's on the same 292 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: whatever boat that carry is on. Colin is on that 293 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: boat with her because he has nothing now. Soon after 294 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: Shiv makes the statement for the family, she praises Logan 295 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: and tells the world that the kids intend to be 296 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: a presence at Waste Star in the years to come. 297 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: Our final question of the day the Gojo deal thumbs 298 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: up er thumbs down? Does it go through? Does Lucas 299 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: Mattson push through the Gojo deal? And if he doesn't, 300 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: what happens with the Attendant Pierce deal. That is of 301 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: course contingent on the kids getting the money from the 302 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Gojo sale. 303 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: I wonder if Mattson is gonna want the Gojo deal 304 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: but for less money. I wonder if that might be 305 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: his card here because everything's unstable as we see as 306 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: you kind of get this great moment at the end 307 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: of the episode where Roman shows on his phone how 308 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 3: the stocks have dropped because everyone knows Logan's dead and 309 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: he says, that's Dad, and then they kind of all smile, 310 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: And I think that's the moment when they realize they're free, 311 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 3: instead of being upset and kind of shocked by the news. 312 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: But I think with the absolutely tanking stocks and the 313 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 3: fact that Matson was already aware that they were trying 314 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: to force more money out of him, I wonder if 315 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: he comes back with a counter deal that is lower 316 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: that then goes on to fuck up the pierced deal. 317 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: I wonder that too, because, as mentioned in the episode, 318 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: one of Mattson's objections, in addition to the fact that 319 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: the price was going up, was that he was paying 320 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: for less because Logan was going to hold on to 321 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: ATM and we'll carve out eightn So the price was 322 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: going up, but he was getting less stuff. So I wonder, 323 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. I think he's going to say, well, 324 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: price has got to come down, either that or give 325 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: me at in Bagh. And I also wonder if he listen. 326 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how it works legally, even though this 327 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: is market Moose your number one, your number one spas 328 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: for the most informed opinion on all matters, due to 329 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: you know that come from the economy. I do wonder 330 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: if he might, would he put himself up for it? 331 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: Would he put himself up for CEO? 332 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: Oh maybe as part of the deal, we can do 333 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 3: it for the same amount of money. But I will 334 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 3: be CEO and also atm huh. 335 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: I would be very interested to see it. 336 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: I love Mattson and Scarsgard's performance is so good in 337 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: him and Kendal are so chao together. I would love 338 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: to see this kind of smash altogether. But I just 339 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: can't wait to see the chaos to come because those 340 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: stock prices are going to be WBD back then for 341 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: the foresteeable future. 342 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Final question, who is your winner and loser? Your winner 343 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: and loser in the wake of the death of the 344 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: big man himself Logan Roy, But up up up, He's 345 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: loving death, big winner, big loser. Going forward, Who's gonna 346 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: thrive and who is gonna Who's gonna really be missing 347 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: that that sweet Logan energy. 348 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 2: Big loser, it's Logan Roy first and foremost. 349 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: He's lost his life, He's lost everything. But in the 350 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: wake of that, I actually sad to say this because 351 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: I am a Roman fan. I think Roman is the 352 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: big loser coming out of this this destabilizes him. I 353 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: hope that he can grab on to Jerry and make 354 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: that apology. She's really pushing him away right now, but 355 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: I would love to see them team up. 356 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: But Roman is obsessed with the. 357 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: Idea that his dad heard his last horrible voicemail where 358 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 3: he said this terrible thing. Roman is in this position 359 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: where he fired Jerry, but the rest of the kids 360 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: don't know, and he can never tell them because otherwise 361 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: it shows that he betrayed them. 362 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: He felt like he just. 363 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: Had this moment of connection with his dad and then 364 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: his dad died. So I think coming out of this 365 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: he is from the core trio. He is struggling. Kerry 366 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: obviously lost, Colin lost, Logan lost, but I think Rome 367 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: is our main, main loser, big winner, probably just Kendall, 368 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: because I think he's actually very happy about this, Like 369 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: that's my funniest business wise, who knows. 370 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: I think Kendall is a fool, but Jeremy Strong was. 371 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: Delivering some great Kendall being constantly on the edge of 372 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: just trauma and also ecstasy, like he can't quite believe 373 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: he outlived his dad, and I think we could see 374 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: this power him forward to the. 375 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: To the President everyone's becoming the president. 376 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: My winner and loser, my winner. I'm going to say Frank, 377 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: Frank Is has always been the only alongside Jerry, I 378 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: guess you would say, the only like humane person in 379 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: this terrible, terrible, terrible company filled with terrible people. He 380 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: handles Ken. You know, when Ken starts going into you know, 381 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: fueled by grief, Ken starts doing is Ken. I want, 382 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: get me, get me the greatest heart doctors in the world. 383 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I need them on I need them on the line 384 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: in one minute. I want to know who, you know 385 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: who the medical service this airline uses. I want that 386 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: plane turned around. I want to all this and that, 387 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: and I want to talk to the pilot. And then 388 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: frank Is like Frank cools him, genesis, like son. Pilots 389 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: find the plane and he just handles it well. And 390 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: I hope that in the wake of this, Frank will 391 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: find a measure of freedom and liberty from the intensely 392 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: toxic atmosphere that he is student for forty years. Big loser, 393 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: you know, I I honestly I think it's Kerry. She 394 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: has no allies, her one. If she has something as armor, 395 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: it is going to be that she knows bad stuff 396 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: that happened, she was right there. 397 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: She might she might be in a Tom position. 398 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: She might have a map to a significant number of 399 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: mass graves. And if she does have that, then maybe 400 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: she'll have a soft landing, uh, you know, landing on 401 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: a pile of money. But otherwise I would imagine that 402 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: kids are going to be out to get her. I 403 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: would imagine she you know, certainly, the way that Carolina 404 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: Frank and carltreated her was cold shoulder at best. And 405 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't think she's going to have anybody really there 406 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: looking out for her interests. So I think it's going 407 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: to be very, very tough for her going forward. Also 408 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: also Greg, I don't know, you know, unless Tom can 409 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: hang on, Greg better hope that Tom can hang on, 410 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: because then I think cousin Greg is in a lot 411 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: of trouble. 412 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: I think there's a version of this because we know 413 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: Jesse Armstrong, we know Peep Show, we know the kind 414 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: of dark satire and comedy that he brings to this, 415 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: you know, fantastic show with succession. I do imagine that 416 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: there's a world where cousin Greg could end up being 417 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: the CEO. I don't know how, but you know that 418 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: it would be the nightmare like corporate nepotism. But yeah, 419 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: good luck to cousin Greg, because we love that tall 420 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: four that. 421 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Has been your market moves for. 422 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 5: Up next, Yellowjackets, We're stepping out of the airlock and 423 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 5: into Yellow Jackets Season two, Episode three, Yes, and things 424 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: are going bad, going terrible the delightfully named Digestive, directed 425 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 5: by Jeffrey W. 426 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: Bird and written by Sarah L. Thompson and Amini Rosa. 427 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: Jackie's bleeding skeleton is gesturing us back into the wilderness God, 428 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 3: where a poor assistant coach Ben is basically disassociating in 429 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 3: his own past to escape the truth of what he 430 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: saw at the end of last episode. Spoiler alert, it 431 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: was kids eating Jackie's body. Yeah, all of them feasting 432 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 3: delicious as he dreams of non cannibalistic meals that his 433 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: loving boyfriend used to cook him. 434 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: They're now delightfully full of human meat. 435 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: Team are dealing with the realities of the feast, and 436 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: some of them are doing better than others. 437 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: Nat she's dealing with it quite well. 438 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, she just like we did it. We needed to survive. 439 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: She's rightfully kind of like grossed out, but she's pragmatic 440 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: about the survival nature. Tie, on the other hand, comes 441 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: out of the cabin absolutely freaking out. 442 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: Somebody ate Jackie. Something ate Jackie? What happened to Jackie? 443 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: And Van strolls out and Van's like. 444 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 3: We ate her, Like what are you talking about? And 445 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 3: Tye is like, no, it was nighttime, Tie, I was sleeping. 446 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: I would never do it. 447 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: Van assures her that she was fully awake. You were 448 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 3: talking to me and live. Hewson says, well, I'm sure, 449 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: He's like, immediately an a more all line. She says, Tye, 450 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: you ate her face. 451 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: I got to say. I am quickly growing tired of 452 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: Tie not getting help. Tye like, I don't know how 453 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: you got this far in life, but you need to 454 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: resign from your state senator, I'm telling you, and you 455 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: need to seek help immediately, because this is serious. 456 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: And it has been going on for like twenty five 457 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: years at least at. 458 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Least at least and it will only become more as 459 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: we talk about. 460 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 3: This episode, and and she is wealthy enough that she 461 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: could get private he big. It does not have to 462 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: be a pressed please free for all, just please, This 463 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: Freddy Krueger caffeine pill nonsense is gonna end. 464 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: Very badly for. 465 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: You, very very badly. 466 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: It's really bad. Coach assistant Ben also not doing well 467 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: in the nineties Wilderness. 468 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: He's like trying his hardest to become the next meal, 469 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: sassing up Nat as she kind of comes up with 470 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: quite a good plan to just pack up Jackie's remains 471 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: and put them on the plane, and he's like, at 472 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: least if you put her body on the plane, you 473 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: can pretend she died with the rest of them trying. 474 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: To come brunch. It's it's just terrible plans all around. 475 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: In the present, Nat is investigating what he's carl and Taisa, 476 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: who's exceedingly needs help, is holding vigil over her critically 477 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: injured wife, who, if you've forgotten, is critically injured because. 478 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: Ty crashed her car on purpose with her wife in it. 479 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: Not only that, Nighttime Tie Daytime Tie, who knows one 480 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: of the Ties, has drawn the creepy cult symbol on 481 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: her comatos wife's hand, So all going badly for time. 482 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: Miss Misty is on a romantic journey of her own, 483 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: heading to meet her Reddit crime board Frenemie Walter, played 484 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: delightfully by Elijah Wood, who's just so wonderful He's set 485 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 3: up a little meet cute where they're going to pretend 486 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: to be FBI agents. 487 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: Incredibly illegal, but very much but Miss's dream. 488 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Missy's old had at this illegal stuff. 489 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: She's like, she's better at it than what she knows 490 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: what's going on in the game plan. 491 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: She immediately knew's how we're going to do it. Here's 492 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: what you're going to do. You're gonna need to rough 493 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: this guy up a little bit. She knew it. 494 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 495 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: Unfortunately the guy they need to rough up is that 496 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: actually like Misty's old school friend Randy, who in season 497 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: one Jeff told about his little blackmail scam. So the 498 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: pair have to basically play murder Serrano de Bergiac, with 499 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: Misty hiding in the boat and whispering sweet questions and 500 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: violent threats into Walter's earpiece for him to tell Randy. 501 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: I can't even believe that it took this long to 502 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 3: get to her, because she is such She's just a 503 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: void of chaos and truly is at the center of 504 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: everything that is insane in this show. 505 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: I gotta say, Missy, like everybody except Misty is kind 506 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: of on a villain arc right now. I'm telling you, 507 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Shauna villain arc she's about We're. 508 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: About to get to her villain ark. 509 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that villain arc. 510 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: Because because because you're right, Misty, she's still standing out 511 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: as the hero. 512 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: So Shauna Molly whops. 513 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: Her carjacker where Jeff tries to take her on a 514 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: romantic trip because he feels like they're not spontaneous enough 515 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: and that that's why she had an affair with Adam, 516 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: and she goes full Rambo punching a carjacker in the hand, 517 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: stealing his gun. Now we'll say, Jeff fucks this up 518 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: because it was a pretty sick move by Sean as psycho. 519 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: As she was. 520 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: John was shit, Yeah, Melanie lynsky wick and it was 521 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: I have to say, very good Jeff. Unfortunately, you know, 522 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: freaks out the car gets stolen, and that will come 523 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: back to bite Jeff. Especially Lottie at the cult is 524 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: showing that her beehives saying increasingly creepy things about them, 525 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: alluding to how the girls ate Jackie and how that's 526 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: similar to wasps and bees killing each other. It isn't brutal, 527 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: it's natural. Otherwise they starve, we all do. 528 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: That's an important illusion. 529 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: I feel like that we will get back to as 530 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: the episode comes to the end. In the woods, Nat 531 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: teen Nat, who is truly the only logical person left. 532 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: She's packing up Jackie's body. She refuses to drink Lotti's 533 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: blood tea. 534 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: As protection. 535 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: I would say that, but almost immediately she almost gets 536 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: killed by a giant white moose, So maybe she should 537 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: have drink the bloody Now, let me stop you. 538 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Here is this mood? What this is? 539 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 6: It? 540 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: Real? Is it? Here's our first opportunity to be like, 541 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on out here? What is happening? 542 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: Is that it was the moose reel? Is this some 543 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: sort of multi dimensional thing where you know the boundaries 544 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: between realities? 545 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: Or or is it a computer generated image? 546 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: Is is it like a haunted forest type of thing? 547 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: What is happening? 548 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: Because the moose comes at her, knocks the plane, you know, 549 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: it's it's huge, and then it disappears. 550 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: Did run away? Is it real? It's very unclear and 551 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: nobody has the wherewithal to be thinking about that because 552 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: they're all just absolutely traumatized by what they did. And 553 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: Lotty decides the best way for them to keep dealing 554 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: with things and to cheer Shawn her up who's feeling 555 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: slightly guilty about eating her bff. Is that they're gonna 556 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: plan like the world's grimes baby showers. Oh good, everyone 557 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: has to uh make gifts for the baby. 558 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: Also important to note here, I think Lotty seems to 559 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: think Slash know that the baby is a boy. 560 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: She keeps calling it a hymn. So is this one 561 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: of Lotty's visions? Is something there? I don't know. We'll 562 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: likely find out about that as it goes on. 563 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: It's very strange, but not as strange as Missy's unexpectedly 564 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: moving steel magnoliously going in. 565 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: You just believe it. 566 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: On the rewatch when she announces it and there's like 567 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: and she's like and now a speech from steel Manolis. 568 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: And her Sally Field voice, she's like going ham In 569 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: the modern day, Walter is, you know, following Misty's orders. 570 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: He's slapping Randy, he's pulling out a little bonecutter. 571 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: He's threatening him. 572 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: But you know, Randy is like a stone cold idiot, 573 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: so he doesn't have any good information except there were 574 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: a strange group of people wearing. 575 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: Purple at the motel. 576 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: We know that Lottie's cult loves to wear heliotrope. I 577 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: believe she calls it, so seems like Misty might be 578 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: onto something. As the girls continue to prepare for the 579 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: Nightmare baby shower, Mary is going full Lady Macbeth. She's 580 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: hearing a dripping which which I'm sure is going to 581 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: come into play. Nobody else can hear it. But she's 582 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: always hearing and dripping. Oh can nobody else hear that? 583 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: You can't perceive that. 584 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: I wonder what that could be out? Yeah, drip, drip please, 585 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 2: it's you know, very Edgar Allan Poe of and Misty. 586 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna say this is a suggestion that I 587 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: do think adds fuel to that is Misty the Antler 588 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 3: queen fire, but it's also, once again not necessarily incorrect 589 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: on a survival level. She reveals to us and to 590 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: Crystal that she had pitched turning Jackie's bones into a 591 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: broth for the people for the kids to drink and 592 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: eat act the baby shower. As Crystal says, a party 593 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: is no fun without snacks, So Misty's really found. 594 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: A twin flame there. 595 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: But the plan's rejected, and while Misty's kind of a 596 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 3: chill vibe about it, is a red flag. 597 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: For her sociopathic behavior. 598 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: I will say he's probably right ari surviv she is probably, 599 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: but they could have probably done with it. 600 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 2: Coach Ben is delusional freak outs. 601 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: He's well, no, you know what he did see a 602 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 3: little kid crawling along the floor with a rabid mouth 603 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 3: planning to eat him. 604 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: Maybe that was actually real. I mean, will the same style. 605 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: In the sense because it had me wondering obviously, like 606 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: people are not. You know, Coach Ben did not partake 607 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: of the meal that was had the other night, so 608 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: this could be just hunger hallucinations. But also it's true. 609 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of weird things going on 610 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 1: in this wood. I wonder if there was something else 611 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: going on, whether it's magic or whatever. You know, weird 612 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: thing is happening out here that we have yet to 613 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: figure out. That is obviously tied to that symbol that 614 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: we keep seeing, but we don't know. So I I 615 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: was unclear whether he was being tortured by some kind 616 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: of vision that was caused by something, or if he's 617 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: just like hungry and scared and cold and he just 618 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: like is afraid that they with cars that they might 619 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: eat him. He might be I really. 620 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 3: I like that reading because also I do think we're 621 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 3: getting into deep unreliable narrator territory at this point. We 622 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 3: don't know what we're seeing or what we're being shown 623 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: that is actually true or is just how the girls 624 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 3: or Ben or whoever is perceiving what's going on in 625 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: the forest. 626 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: Ben is just he's hiding in the back room. He's 627 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: laid up. 628 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to talk that Travis when Travis checks 629 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: in on him, and he's practically just disassociating full time 630 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: to survive. He's thinking about his lovely boyfriend and how 631 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 3: his boyfriend broke up with him just before Ben left 632 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 3: for Nationals because he wasn't comfortable coming out. 633 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: Of the closet. 634 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: And it's this really interesting, grounded, kind of emotional story 635 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: arc that Ben is going on in his head while 636 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 3: the girls get ready to celebrate their baby. This wilderness sacrifice, 637 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: what's coming there is a good juxtaposition here of Ben's 638 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: life before the wilderness, and you can understand why he's 639 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 3: ruminating on it compared to his life in the wilderness. Now, 640 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: we get a big reveal here this week, which is 641 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 3: Van finally learns more about the mystery of Tie's sleepwalking 642 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 3: when She asks Nighttime Tie if she can join her 643 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: on her little Sonambalist jaunt as long as she unbinds 644 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: her from the ropes. Nighttime Tie says yes, and she 645 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: explains to Van that the man with no eyes has 646 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 3: been telling her where to go if you don't remember him. 647 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 3: He's the Vincent from pulp fiction looking suit wearing guy 648 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 3: but with no eyes, who Tie saw in the mirror 649 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: when her grandmother died, and it seems to be some 650 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 3: kind of familial hereditary ghosts or delusion, and he is 651 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 3: now clearly connected to whatever's going on in the forest. 652 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 3: She also says that she's not Tie. She talks about 653 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 3: Tie in the third person, and when Van wakes Tie up, 654 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 3: Ty has no memory and it seems like I would 655 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 3: say Tie lies to Van about the man with no 656 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 3: eyes because that's been recurring for her day time night Time. 657 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: She's seen him throughout the series. 658 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: Is this a ghost story? Is that what's going on? 659 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 2: Is this kind of worked out too? Is it actually 660 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 2: a ghost in it? 661 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 3: At Pailey Fest the one of the co show runners, 662 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 3: Ashley Lyle, who also co created the show, she talked 663 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 3: about how people wanted to know about the Man with 664 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: No Eyes and she was kind of saying no, and 665 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 3: then Tawny Cypress, who plays adult Tie, got up and 666 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: was like, you have to tell us, like you've kept 667 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 3: it from us for so long, and kind of bullied 668 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 3: her into it. And she said she sees the man 669 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 3: with no eyes kind of as you could see him 670 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 3: as death incarnate. That's like how Tie sees him, she said, 671 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 3: So this kind of almost an apparition of what you 672 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: see before you die. But she also said that he 673 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: represents the unknown, which is something Ties very scared of. 674 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: So I do wonder if we're getting into that kind 675 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 3: of spiritual end of life, that's someone you see when 676 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,479 Speaker 3: you die. If he is Death in Karnate, then let's 677 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 3: talk about the lost potential hair are. 678 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: The girls already dead? 679 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: I think we're getting to the stage now where we 680 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 3: can ask that is this purgatory? 681 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: I am now wondering if there isn't something like they 682 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: cheated death or something like they should have died. Yeah, 683 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: they should have died, but they didn't, and that's why 684 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: they are being hounded by this fell luck in the 685 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: years after. I will say that, like, then you gotta 686 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: fucking tie Tie like you had a tire. She can't 687 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: be walking around. I know you have very warm feelings 688 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: towards her, and listen when she's and daytime. Tie is 689 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: a nice person. Yeah, but you I'm sorry, but we 690 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: got to really really tire up, like like very very 691 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: very tightly. She cannot be allowed to roam around the 692 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: woods doing who knows what, taking shits, jumping off cliffs, 693 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: potentially killing people. 694 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 3: We can't literally please stop it. Yeah, and also why 695 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: is she always going to the symbol? 696 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 2: I think Van is on something. Van's like, Bro, you 697 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: got to talk to Laurie. 698 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 3: You've got to try and understand what's going on with 699 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: the symbol, Like what is the crying ties? 700 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 6: Like? 701 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 3: No, not having it nothing is a coincidence. It's not 702 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 3: a coincidence, my friend. Well, it is clear that the 703 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 3: symbol is somehow connected to whatever Tie is experiencing and 704 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: has sleepwalking. 705 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: I will say that it does seem like the symbol 706 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: can be found at these moments where death is closest. 707 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: It was at the cliff where Tied was gonna maybe 708 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: jump off. She put it you know, on her on 709 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: her ex partner's hand. Now that she's very very close 710 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: to death. It was on the window. I want I 711 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: and so I wonder if there's it's either a ward 712 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: or you're calling death. You're trying to ward it off, 713 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: but it does seem like it's it's there in those 714 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: moments where there is a coin flip happening and it's 715 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: like heads you live, tails you die. 716 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I think that's a great point. 717 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 3: And Lotty seems to think it's protection, but it could 718 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 3: also be that you're calling down. 719 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: You know. 720 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 3: Present day Jeff, making everyone look incredibly suspicious as always, 721 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: goes up to Cop Kevin in the gym Terrible Sea. 722 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 3: Oh it's all going wrong, and he's going up to 723 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 3: him saying, my wife didn't do anything, and Kevin's like, well, 724 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 3: guess what. Somebody told me that your wife's having an affair. 725 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: And that's a good source because guess what it was. 726 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 3: It was fucking Cali the worst she told him last week. 727 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 3: And then sure not who Jeff should probably be spending 728 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 3: time with instead of harassing a cop is on her 729 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: union shit going to get her Mini Van Melanie Lynsky 730 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: just goes absolutely ham here as she gives the monologue 731 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 3: of a lifetime, adding more fuel to the. 732 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: Fire that she is the antler Queen. 733 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 3: Here's just a snippet. Have you ever peeled the skin 734 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 3: off a human corpse. It's not as easy as you 735 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 3: might think. It's really stuck on us skin. You have 736 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 3: to roll back the edges of it just so you 737 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: can get a good grip to really pull, which again 738 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 3: isn't easy. People are so sweaty when you kill them, 739 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 3: just like Oily Nightmare. But you know what gonna say, 740 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 3: it works. She gets the minibaundpack. 741 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, people are so sweaty when 742 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: you kill them. Who else has Shanna killed? 743 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 6: Right? 744 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: I think she's killed, She's has she committed in the past, 745 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: because I think she might revolution very believable that she's 746 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: killed multiple people. 747 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 3: I think in the forest she is the person who 748 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: kills the people that they eat later on over this 749 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 3: like nineteen months. 750 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 2: I also look, I don't know. 751 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 3: Because Jeff is kind of like a himbo darling who 752 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,959 Speaker 3: very shocked and innocent. But I do feel like those 753 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 3: two have killed or covered up a murder before, and 754 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 3: that's how they get their little marriage kicks and keep 755 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: things fresh. 756 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I I need to know what 757 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: Shauna has been up to in the years preceding when 758 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: we catch up with her in the present day, because 759 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: it really feels like there is the dark side to 760 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: her is a lot darker and a lot deeper than 761 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: we ever imagined, and I would not be shocked to 762 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: learn that she has committed multiple, multiple non forest murders. 763 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 2: Yes, big big serial killers. Mix above and see and 764 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: she gets so many bound back. Good for her. 765 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: X ray vision will be back. 766 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: And we're back back in the cabin. 767 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 3: There is this I love this scene because I think 768 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 3: it leans into what we were talking about, like unreliable narrators, 769 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 3: like different versions of the past and the present merging together. Also, 770 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 3: I will just say before I talk about this moment, 771 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 3: Yellowjackets Socials did a post where they said this is 772 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 3: our multiverse. 773 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 2: Now I don't know if that. 774 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 3: Was just a mistaken post that was because like there's 775 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 3: two different timelines. But to me, I'm also like, does 776 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 3: that mean we're in multiverse territory and they're different universes? 777 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: Right? 778 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 3: And Ben is definitely wishing that he could live in 779 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 3: a different universe, and we get to see a glimpse 780 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: of that here where it shows him going back to 781 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: his boyfriend and saying I love you. I'm going to 782 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 3: come out of the closet. I'm going to live with 783 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 3: you openly. We're gonna move in together, and it's gonna 784 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 3: be great, because if I don't do this, I'm gonna 785 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 3: be the most boring, depressed version of myself. 786 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: I was hoping that this was. 787 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 3: Something he said, and then he was like, I don't 788 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 3: want to let the girls down, so I'm gonna go 789 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 3: to Nationals. 790 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: No. 791 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 3: We learn then that Ben is imagining what could have 792 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 3: happened if he'd done that, as the news begins to 793 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 3: play a story about the plane crash that he wouldn't 794 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 3: have been. 795 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: On Bump bumb Bum. 796 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 3: It's really heartbreaking and gutting, and the thesis is like, 797 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 3: come out of the closet and you won't die in 798 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 3: a fiery crash. 799 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 2: So it's it's really bleak and sad stuff. 800 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 3: And I actually felt for Coach Ben in this moment, 801 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 3: where usually I'm kind of I'm a Coach Ben agnostic. 802 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 3: So Misty is now giving that famous Steel Magnolias performance 803 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 3: that we mentioned. By the way, chose a speech about 804 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 3: a dead daughter our baby shower, very weird. 805 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: Flex absolutely bizarre choice for. 806 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 3: Bizarre and like you mentioned, It begins with this kind 807 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 3: of heckling and a couple of people clapping, but by 808 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 3: the end the group is like crying. They're giving her 809 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 3: rousing applause. People are smiling, and I think she's finally 810 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 3: getting to move back up the social ladder of the 811 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 3: wilderness post, you know, poisoning everyone. It seems like she 812 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 3: finally get to to be having a friend. 813 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: Tie yes again. I just somebody needs to stop her. 814 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 1: She needs to be TI needs to be stopped. 815 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 3: She needs to go and get some help, whatever that 816 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 3: means when you're incredibly wealthy and a maybe haunted by 817 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 3: a ghost ghost rehab. I don't know she has enough 818 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 3: money to get help. I don't know why she's doing this. 819 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: She's ignoring Misty's phone calls. She's putting herself in a 820 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 3: dangerous situation. And that leads to one of the creepiest 821 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 3: scenes from this season actually, where Tye sees a nightmare 822 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 3: reflection of herself with kind of red eyes, which I 823 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 3: guess is maybe a bit of a nighttime tie signifier, 824 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 3: and the other tie in the mirror is moving of 825 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 3: her own accord. She wants something from daytime tie, and 826 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 3: when Tye kind of asks her finally, what do you want? 827 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 3: She covers half of her face well, making the dooms 828 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 3: coming moss. 829 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me. The way I interpreted that hand 830 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: gesture was she was making the symbol with her fingers. 831 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. 832 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: Like they those dashes, you know, go to the side 833 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, that was the way I perceived it 834 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: was that she was making the symbol across her face 835 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: and over her eye. 836 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 2: Oh that's so crazy, So. 837 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: Again calling into question the idea that the symbol could 838 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: be about seeing who is this person that she's dealing with. 839 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: Is it her from another dimension? And is the symbol 840 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: how they communicate with this dimension? I don't know, but 841 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: it felt like, again we were seeing the symbol, but 842 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 1: in a in a different formula. 843 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 2: New way, in a new way. 844 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 3: I love that, And I love that double reading too, 845 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 3: because so much of the show is subjective. So I 846 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 3: was like, oh, it must be like the mosque that 847 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 3: she wore with Van at homecoming. She wants you know, 848 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 3: she wants Van, and I do wonder if that's the case, 849 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 3: why would Nighttime Tie. 850 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 2: Want Van there? 851 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 3: Because Van was one of the few people who actually 852 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 3: tried to stop her. We know adult Van has been 853 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 3: cast Lauren Ambrose, so maybe we'll be seeing her soon. 854 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 3: But either way, it's bad times for Tie and she's 855 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 3: losing control and she is yet to ask anyone for help. Yeah, 856 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form, Walter is doing his 857 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 3: best to flirt with Misty. She's having absolutely none of it. 858 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 2: But I love this moment. 859 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: We get this moment between them where it seems like 860 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 3: he's flirting, he wants them to spend the night together, 861 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 3: to have a drink together, but really he's kind of 862 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 3: probing her about why she's down shouting his posts. I 863 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: think this is very interesting to ask you a question. 864 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 3: What do you think about Walter's intentions? Is he a 865 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 3: yellowjacket Superstan? Does he actually like Misty? Or is he 866 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 3: just trying to find out what happened to Adam and 867 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 3: she's just a tool on his chin. 868 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,919 Speaker 1: It's all of the above. I think it's he quite 869 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: rightly suspects that there's more going on with Adam unless 870 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: we get to the bottom of that. I think that 871 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: him saying that he doesn't care about the Yellow Jackets, 872 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: which we think we see in the in the upcoming scenes. 873 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: Right the those scenes from next week's episode feels a 874 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: little bit. Uh, you know the lady Lady doth protest 875 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: too much, right, I think that agree one of the 876 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm a mystery freak and one of the biggest mysteries 877 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't care about the last couple decades. I don't care. God, 878 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: I just did not care about it. I could not 879 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: care less. I'm just on the Internet trying to solve 880 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: mysteries all day, but this one I don't. I'm not interested. 881 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: I think I think that he's very interested, and I 882 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: think that to your point, I think that he is. 883 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: He correctly suspects that there's more going on with Adam, 884 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: and I think he would love more information about the 885 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: Yellow Jackets and what is going on with them. 886 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this great tear tet here too, where Misty 887 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 3: makes up this lie just sociopathically fast, about how she's 888 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 3: protecting Adam's mother, who was so heartbroken because he was 889 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 3: an addict, and she just wants to protect this poor woman. 890 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 3: And then you're like, oh, wow, that was really creepy. 891 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: I kind of forgot you could do that. And then 892 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: she's like, you know, you must know because you brought 893 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 3: your mom to the nursing home where I work and He's. 894 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: Like, that's not my mom. 895 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 3: He's like, that's just some random woman I know. And 896 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 3: you know, it meant I could come and see you. 897 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 3: And Misty was like, why would you do that? And 898 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 3: he says this line. I mean, these two are definitely big. 899 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 3: They got big joker Harlequin in the yellowjackets. Yeah, world energy. 900 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 2: He says, maybe I'm just a bored Moriarty looking for 901 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: a shirln I. 902 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: Mean, at this point, I feel like, Misty, this is 903 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: wonderful and I'm rooting for these these really, really truly 904 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: unhinged kids. That said, if I'm Misty, I think you 905 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: got to put your defenses up a little bit at that. 906 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 3: You know, Moriarty is somebody says they're Moriarty, you gotta say, 907 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 3: that's a red flag. 908 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: And also the reveal that he is at the nursing 909 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: home specifically to see her, not for any other reason 910 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: to make contact with her. 911 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 2: Red flag, big red flag. 912 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 3: And you know, Lotti is trying to work through things 913 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 3: with Nat and make her believe that she's at the 914 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 3: wellness cult out of choice. She teams her up with Lisa, 915 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 3: you know, played by Nicole Mayins, who Nat stabbed with 916 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 3: a fork Lotty in true unhinged fashion. I have to say, 917 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with the wellness space. 918 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem good to me. But it's not obviously 919 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 3: the supernatural cult we thought. But this is a big 920 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 3: red flag with the white reflegs. She gives Lisa a 921 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 3: fork and says to her, if you want to stab Natalie, 922 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 3: like go for it, just just do it and like 923 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 3: see how it goes. But Lisa is extremely chill. Yeah, 924 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 3: she's living the good life. That intentional community is working 925 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 3: for her because she drops the fork, hugs Nat and 926 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 3: forgives her. And I think that has quite a profound 927 00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: impact on Naw. 928 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 2: I agree. 929 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean this was, first of all, it was chilling 930 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: the way Lottie says and if you want to hurt 931 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: her you can, and I think you should. That was 932 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: absolutely bone chilling, and it really it felt like a 933 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: big thing for her to not do it and forgive her. 934 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: And you know what, Nat is a person who, whether 935 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 1: she knows it or not, is looking for that grace 936 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: from everyone around her. She is looking for someone to say, 937 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 1: you know what, it's okay. 938 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 3: I think she would love to give it to other 939 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 3: people too. I think but in that moment, Juliette Lewis 940 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 3: does so much acting. She's so shocked and moved by 941 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 3: Lisa's choice to do that. I'm very interested to see where. 942 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 2: That relationship goes. Yeah, in the past. 943 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 3: Nat is not feeling very forgiving or graceful when Lotti 944 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 3: I have to say, this is fucked up. When Lottie 945 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 3: decides that the best present for Shanna's baby is a 946 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 3: blanket with the cult symbol stitched onto it, Natalie is like, bro, 947 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 3: this symbol was found among a dead man. 948 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 2: This is bad. 949 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: Lot. 950 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,439 Speaker 3: He's like, Nah, it's cool, man like he was using 951 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 3: it for protection and that's like, well, he's dead, so 952 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 3: it didn't really work, and tis about to step up. 953 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 3: It seems like her and Nat are really the only 954 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 3: two logical kind of team logic people left in the cabin. 955 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 2: But Shanna gets a. 956 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 3: Nose bleed and her nose very I would say my 957 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 3: first thought was this is coming from eating human flesh. 958 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 3: Nose bleed Like, this is a you ate too much 959 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 3: of your friend nosebleed. The blood drips onto the symbol 960 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 3: and immediately just hundreds of crows kill themselves by flying 961 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 3: into the cabin. 962 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling about the blood magic. It's something, something's happening, 963 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: Something is super I am. I am convinced now that 964 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: something is supernatural. 965 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 3: I think that there is at least there is a 966 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 3: supernatural element to whatever else is going on here, whether 967 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 3: there's some kind of esp thing like some weapon X 968 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 3: program in the forest, whatever it is, there is a 969 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 3: level of extrasensory something activity, yes occurring. So if you're 970 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 3: wondering if Team Logic or Team Supernatural is winning, Nat 971 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 3: makes a very very good point. She's like, do not 972 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 3: touch those crows. They are probably sick, seeing as they 973 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 3: all just died. And Lot he's like, nah, gather the blessings, 974 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 3: and all of the girls apart from Nat and Tye 975 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 3: just start picking up the crows and taking them into 976 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 3: the cabin. 977 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: Folks, What the fuck is going on? 978 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 2: What is OK? 979 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 3: So this is where speaking of this, the episode ends 980 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,919 Speaker 3: on a big what the fuck is going on? Moment 981 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 3: where I think we can really dive into this like 982 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 3: dimensional ideas ideas of parallels with Lost, which this is 983 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 3: season is really I feel like kind of trolling people. 984 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 2: With like intentionally. 985 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 3: Lotti in the present goes to her Beehigh, which she 986 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 3: was telling that about that she obviously cares about. 987 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 2: And the bees are all dead. 988 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 3: The hives are full of blood, and she's, you know, 989 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 3: her hands are covered in blood. Somebody's killed her bees. 990 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,919 Speaker 3: It seems really just absolutely alarming to her. But it's 991 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 3: just a vision, it seems, And visions of dead animals 992 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 3: can mean lots of things, like they can talk about 993 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 3: grief and trauma, but they can also mean great evil 994 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 3: is coming. And the song behind Lottie as she has 995 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 3: this vision says, can't stop what's coming, can't stop what's 996 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 3: on its way. So I'm guessing that this is a 997 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 3: bad omen, whether it is real or not. 998 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: There's also let me look at the lyrics to this, 999 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: there is also, uh, I think one of the it 1000 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: says something about a portal. Also in that time, I'm 1001 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 1: sure it's really feels like there's something trying to come 1002 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: into this world and what is it? I think you know, 1003 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: you and I both coming into this season where like 1004 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot is much more clued in. She might be 1005 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: behind all of this. She knows more about what's going 1006 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: on maybe than the rest of them. And now it's 1007 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 1: quite clear that Lottie, though profoundly affected by her experiences 1008 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: in the Woods, and despite the fact that she was 1009 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: something of the spiritual leader of the girls in the woods, 1010 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 1: is just as mystified as to what is happening is 1011 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: that everybody else. 1012 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting to see how she almost 1013 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 3: like it almost feels like she didn't have a lot 1014 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 3: of agency and being put in this position by the girls. 1015 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 3: It was more to do with these strange coincidences or 1016 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 3: things that occurred, and lot his own struggles with mental health, 1017 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 3: and they kind of put her on this pedestal. And 1018 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 3: I found it really interesting that earlier Lottie had talked 1019 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 3: about the bees as annas for the girls, and then 1020 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 3: at the end you see that the bees are all dead. 1021 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 3: So is this leaning into our kind of final destination? 1022 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 3: They should have died and now they have to die again. 1023 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 3: Is death or some kind of supernatural thing hunting them down? 1024 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 3: Is that like Travis ended up dying, or is this 1025 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 3: more of that that's a different version of the world, 1026 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 3: a different universe where these visions are not necessarily untrue, 1027 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 3: but there's something pushing through from the other side. 1028 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of really fun I am 1029 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 2: very impressed. 1030 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 3: Basically that this show can get more intriguing as it 1031 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 3: goes on in its second season, when the first season 1032 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 3: was just such an explosive kind of zeitgeist hitting smash. 1033 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 3: It's really hard to keep the mystery going. But every 1034 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 3: week I come out of this like, what the fuck I. 1035 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 2: Have going on? 1036 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 1: I need so no super producer Saul put the title 1037 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: of the song in our chat, and here is the lyric, 1038 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: and through the lifeli whlse, there goes her friend and 1039 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: her and Nashiki. It's out of time, and through the 1040 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: portal they can make amend. So there it is the 1041 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: word portal. I I mean, it feels like they're telling 1042 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: us that there is something in some other dimension. And also, 1043 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, for our house of the dragon heads and 1044 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: for our kind of Norse mythology slash various other forms 1045 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: of mythology. Heads, a white elk or a white moose 1046 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: or a white animal in general is often quite symbolic 1047 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: of a thing, usually a protector, which makes me feel like, man, 1048 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,919 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's some like bigger battle between good 1049 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: and light and dark going on here that these girls 1050 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 1: are somehow trapped up in. I have no idea where 1051 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: it's going. That's the thing. Either this is you know 1052 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: other shows like, Yeah, here's what I think might happen, 1053 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: Here's what I think this one. I'm flummoxed at the 1054 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: end of every episode. I'm like, I don't know, just 1055 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: tell me what happens to and I love it. 1056 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 2: I love every second of it all. 1057 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 1: Right up next nerd Out. 1058 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 3: In this week's ned Out, where you tell us what 1059 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 3: you love and why oh a theory you're excited to share. 1060 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 3: Victor pictures us on the two thousand and five film 1061 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 3: sky High. 1062 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 6: Hi, this is Victor from Kentucky and I want to 1063 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 6: tell you about my nerd out, which is the two 1064 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 6: thousand and five movie sky High. It is essentially a 1065 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 6: John Hughes inspired superhero movie that has rated PG. This 1066 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 6: came out when I was in my mid twenties. There 1067 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 6: weren't a lot of superhero movies after Spider Man, X Men. 1068 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 6: There's kind of a gap there. This was right before 1069 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 6: Marvel started doing its thing. So watch this Disney movie 1070 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 6: that came out as made for preteens. 1071 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I fell in love with it. 1072 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 6: I think it's fantastic. If you look at the cast, 1073 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 6: you may be surprised to just see how many people 1074 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 6: you recognize from it, of course. Kelly Preston, Kurt Russell, 1075 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 6: Michael and Gerano stars in it. Nicholas Brown is in it, 1076 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 6: Bris Campbell, a lot of people you're going to recognize. 1077 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 6: But it's just it's very sweet, it's very charming. It 1078 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 6: has some pretty good action scenes in it. If you're 1079 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 6: looking for something superhero ish that you could watch with 1080 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 6: your kids, or even if you don't have kids, you're 1081 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 6: still going to enjoy it. So that is my nerd out. 1082 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 6: Two thousand and five's Sky High, a movie that should 1083 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 6: have gotten a sequel, so far it hasn't happened. 1084 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Victor. If you have theories or passions 1085 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 3: you want to share, hit us up at x ray 1086 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 3: at crooked dot com. Instructions as always are in the 1087 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 3: show notes. 1088 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: Well that's it for us. Rosie and he plugs plugs, 1089 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: bok plug book bulks. 1090 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 3: Yes, you can find me here twice a week and 1091 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 3: I'm at Rosie marks on Instagram and letterbox and this 1092 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 3: week you should all go out and watch ry Lane. 1093 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 3: It is a really sweet London set rom com. If 1094 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 3: you want to know what people who haven't lived in 1095 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 3: America for seven years sound like when they come from 1096 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 3: on then watch this incredibly sweet, wonderful movie from rain 1097 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 3: Alan Miller. I think everyone will love it, and I 1098 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be like a contemporary classic. 1099 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. Every week until May nineteenth. 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