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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, party people,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: us on Wednesday, March two. Got a great guest coming

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Speaker 1: up later in the podcast. If you guys follow the

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Speaker 1: pics in the n c A Tournament, you know I'm

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Speaker 1: on fire, straight fire. Unfortunately I haven't I'm not leading

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Speaker 1: or I'm not even top three in any bracket contests.

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Speaker 1: I'm in because of some shenanigans. But we'll get to

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Speaker 1: college basketball in a little bit. I want to start

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Speaker 1: the show. Obviously, subscribe, rate and review. You know this

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Speaker 1: big news coming up tomorrow on the podcast. I hope

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Speaker 1: it is official and we will have it on tomorrow's show,

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Speaker 1: so keep it locked. I need to start the show.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is a hot take, folks, and

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Speaker 1: I gotta give credit where credits do. Rob G has

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Speaker 1: been all over this, and I've talked about a little

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Speaker 1: bit on the podcast. Folks. When March Madness hits, your

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Speaker 1: boy is locked in on March Madness. I'm all college basketball.

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Speaker 1: I you know, the NFL stuff starts to recede a

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Speaker 1: little bit, the NBA starts to fall into the background,

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Speaker 1: and I get I'm hardcore diving in. I just love

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Speaker 1: this stuff. It's a month, Like, why can't I get

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Speaker 1: deep into it? I get so into those first four days.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday like I'm just I wake up like late,

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Speaker 1: blow through my alarm. I'm just you know, you're burning

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Speaker 1: the candle at both ends and the constant highs and

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Speaker 1: I got a little degeneraty. It was a great run,

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Speaker 1: but I was just so spent that on Tuesday, at

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Speaker 1: like one thirty, I told the wife, I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do some reading. I'm feeling a little tired.

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Speaker 1: And I just passed out for an hour and a half.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh that felt good, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I needed a nap. Um And you'all, you know who

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Speaker 1: else he needs to take a nap right now besides

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Speaker 1: me during March Madness, Frank Vogel, He's gonna need a

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Speaker 1: nap because I'm not even kidding folks. When you look

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Speaker 1: gonna be reevaluated this coming weekend. Who knows how much

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Speaker 1: longer he's gonna be out. If Lebron is not back

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Speaker 1: within the next two three weeks, the Los Angeles Lakers

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Speaker 1: are gonna be in the play in game in the

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Speaker 1: Western Conference. That is not a hot take. That is

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Speaker 1: simply reality and numbers do the math. The Lakers have

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Speaker 1: played forty four games, okay, they are doing. Everybody's playing

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Speaker 1: seventy two this year. And if you look at the schedule,

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Speaker 1: it's condensed in the second half. Everybody's playing four games

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Speaker 1: a week, and the games are mounting up quickly. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers got blasted by the Pelicans on Tuesday night, and

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Speaker 1: it was ugly. The Lakers never were within single digits

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Speaker 1: in the second half. They trailed by thirty. Oh and

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Speaker 1: by the way, Alonzo the Immortal a Lonzo Ball, according

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Speaker 1: to Rob g did not even play. Uh. The Lakers

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Speaker 1: started someone whose name I'm not that familiar with. He

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Speaker 1: is Davante k Cock from u n C. Wilmington's and uh,

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Speaker 1: like college basketball he started for the Lakers. They have

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Speaker 1: zero rim protection. The Pelicans outscored the Lakers two in

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Speaker 1: the paint. Now, we talked about this in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, you know I had some concern. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you go from rim protectors Dwight Howard and JaVale McGee.

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Speaker 1: JaVale McGee limited time, but he could still defend. And

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Speaker 1: now you're trying out mark a Soul and mantras Harrold

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Speaker 1: and Marcus Old. We're not talking about defensive player of

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Speaker 1: thirties in it to get a ring, still a high

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Speaker 1: So right now teams are just doing running layup lines

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Speaker 1: against the Lakers and it ain't pretty. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think it is going overboard to say the Lakers have

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Speaker 1: major issues right now. If Lebron's out for another three weeks,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at fifteen more games played. Rob Mr pessimistic.

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Speaker 1: We can let him go on his spiel in a minute.

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Speaker 1: He believes the Lakers could only win one game out

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Speaker 1: The Lakers are twenty eight and six team, not awful,

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Speaker 1: The Spurs refused to go away. The Pelicans are lingering there.

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Speaker 1: There's still five games under five, but they're not out

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Speaker 1: the pressure cooker of do we need to rush Lebron

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Speaker 1: I wonder what the NBA is thinking if the Lakers

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Speaker 1: But holy cow, we're a twisted ankle away from having

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Speaker 1: no Lakers in the playoffs and that would be absolutely

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Speaker 1: a death blow to the NBA postseason. So listen, I

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Speaker 1: Rob G credit. Rob G, go ahead and do your

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Speaker 1: I don't want to take a victory lab or something

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Speaker 1: like that. I mean, that is my team, so I'm

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Speaker 1: not happy about it. But you know, I did make

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Speaker 1: Couple saying that of the next fifteen games, if Lebron

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Speaker 1: So that tells you what I think about what the

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Speaker 1: not good, it's terrible. They they can't score. I mean

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Speaker 1: that that's the thing. I know that you brought up

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Speaker 1: the points in the paint, and that's expected. You know,

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Speaker 1: They only had free throws, like their Their offenses is

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Speaker 1: it Kuzma? Imagine Kyle Kuzma going being from like the

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Speaker 1: Let's just see if he can hold his own sink

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Speaker 1: but Rob pointed this out. It is a back to back.

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Speaker 1: Calves can be plucky with some young players. Or Lando

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Speaker 1: this weekend should be a win. However, if they don't

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Speaker 1: don't think they will. Let's see if we're Lando's winnable Bucks.

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Speaker 1: he's injured and he's thirty six years old. I don't

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Speaker 1: but Rob, when you zoom out and you see, oh,

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Speaker 1: oh man, um, is it nearly overall? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: you know, freshman, he is what a teenager going against

423
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Speaker 1: a lot of grown men. You know you mentioned the

424
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Speaker 1: red shirt. Any thoughts on what happened there to Oklahoma status? Well,

425
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: it's interesting. The very first practice I saw Kade practice

426
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: in November, when I drove up to Stillwater carefully socially

427
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: distancing at the practice at the time, Um, I said

428
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: to Mike. Pointing later, I said, because Mike's a Brooklyn kid.

429
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: I've known Mike since his high school days as a player,

430
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, he's just out there like he's deferring

431
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: to his teammates and he goes coach. That's how he is.

432
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: But when the lights come on, he turns turns it on.

433
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: Interesting about him, like this is off the top of

434
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: my head. But during the season, he averaged like seven

435
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: in the first half, eleven or twelve, and the second

436
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: half of games he always waited, and I thought that

437
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: there would come a game if that would bite him

438
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: in the butt because he didn't take over the game

439
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: from the get go. And I thought Sunday night was

440
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: a perfect example of when you're that good Jason, and

441
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: he is really good. I I don't have a lot

442
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: of argument. Um, I can nitpick with you. Will do

443
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: that on a NBA draft uh podcast in the summer,

444
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: you know, we'll nitpick and I'll try to make the

445
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: case from Jalen Suggs. But but here's the thing about Cade.

446
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: That's a game on Sunday where you see you go

447
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: into this very first five minutes and let everybody know

448
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: I am the best player on the court. You are

449
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: not guarding me today. And I thought where he got

450
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: himself in trouble, which he did a couple of number

451
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: of times during the season, was he waited too long.

452
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: You know, now you're down ten and you've got a

453
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: young team and they're looking for you. And I thought

454
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: he could he was he is the best player on

455
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: the floor. I just thought it took too long to establish.

456
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of players sticking in the Big twelve, who is abolished?

457
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: I'm here early Austin Reeves at Oklahoma. Now listen, I

458
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: know the game was early on Monday. A lot of

459
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: people at work might have missed it. I'm just saying France.

460
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: Top ten performance I've seen of anybody in the tournament

461
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: so far was Austin Reeves of Oklahoma, and I mean

462
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: he would He's basically said, oh, Jalen sucks, You're gonna

463
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: gard me. Okay, I'm gonna do this, that and the

464
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: other and score or assist. I was blown away by

465
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: how good Austin Reeves was A do you think he

466
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: is a pro? And b are you surprised Gonzaga really

467
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: could not get him? I think he had like twenty

468
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: six you remember, you remember I've seen this kid for

469
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: two years now and three years with practice because he

470
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: red shirted one year. You know what I would I

471
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: surprised you if I told you that, Um, he dropped

472
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: forty in a game twice in the last twelve months

473
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: in a Big twelve game, you know, thirteen months like

474
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: he he went for forty two different times. So that

475
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: he the only thing that as we talked to NBA

476
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: for a second, all my NBA friends are intrigued. He

477
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: reminds me of Jeff Hornist, but he does not shoot

478
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: the ball like Jeff Hornes secon if there's one achilles heel,

479
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: you can't shoot from three. I think he has a

480
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: really strong chance to make a roster. Because I tell

481
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: everybody this, it's different now than it was five years ago.

482
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: There's seventeen guys on a team. There's seventeen times thirty.

483
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do think he can make a roster

484
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: for him to for him to be Joe Harris or a.

485
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: He's really a point guard. He's got to shoot the ball,

486
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: but more consistency behind the yard. But the game you

487
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: saw of creating his own and looking for others absolutely

488
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: the case. All right, let's stick with Gonzaga here. I

489
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: don't want to say they've got a road game against Creton,

490
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: but they're playing in hinkel of a gym that Creton

491
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: is very familiar with. I have to say, Frank, I

492
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: like the cut of the jib from Creighton. I mean

493
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: the big kid Bishop is an animal and the little

494
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: point guards Za I'll let you say that. You know

495
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: he is awesome. That guy is the consummate college basketball

496
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: point guard to me, confident, makes all the right decisions,

497
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: never out of control, great shooter. kN Creighton hang with Gonzaga. Yeah,

498
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: they can hang with Gonzaga because they can get hot

499
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: from deep. Because you not only have Zagarowski but you've

500
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: got Mitch Baloch, who's a lifetime career forty two percent

501
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: from three. I mean, this guy made. This guy's made

502
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: eleven in a game. He's a huge, big time shooter.

503
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't shoot enough, which has always been my issue

504
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: with Mitch um and I've known him since his freshman

505
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: year of high school. By the way, legitimately beat Steph

506
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: Curry at Steph's elite camp in a three point contest

507
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: when he was a freshman going into a sophomore year.

508
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about legit, I mean I ran the camp,

509
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: so I was there, And so they do have Zegorowski

510
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: and Balloch that can get hot. I don't worry about

511
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: the arena from Gonzaga standpoint because I wasn't in Hankle.

512
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: But having been in Banker's life, you really don't know

513
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: you're in Hankel. It really feels like an n C

514
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: double a court with the logos and whatnot and the signage.

515
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: So I give I give Creighton to one chance. Yeah,

516
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: it's not happening. I don't think it's gonna happen. I

517
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: really don't. I think Creton is not I don't think

518
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: Creighton will be able to guard them. Okay, So now

519
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: I've spent about twelve minutes here. We haven't got to

520
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: the big story in the n c A tournament. That's

521
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve, UH nine and one heading into the

522
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: sweet six. Team have shocked everybody. And I made this

523
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: sweeping theory that and you can shoot it down and

524
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: mock me all you want, but you know, you've got

525
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: a seventy four year old coach, k seventy year old

526
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: boy Williams Duke and you n see no final fours

527
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years Kentucky struggling with the

528
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: one and done stuff. Are we seeing a changing of

529
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: the guard? I mean everybody thought the Big ten was

530
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: the team or the or the conference coming in and

531
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve with great young coaches. You know, Dana

532
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: Altman is phenomenal. I'm extremely bullshot it. I like Cronin

533
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: uh Andy n felt incredible. Your thoughts on the on

534
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. Is this sustainable for them, not just

535
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: this tournament but in the coming years? Yeah? It is

536
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: because um it see it's all cyclical. It's really all cyclical.

537
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't long ago. Ben Holland was at u c

538
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: l A going to three three Final fours and four

539
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: years and Arizona being Arizona for a long time. Right

540
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: now they're dealing with the n C Double A investigation. Um. Great,

541
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: But but to your point, Um, I'll tell you what

542
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: it is. It's nobody watches the Pack twelve. Yeah, nobody

543
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: watches that. I hate to say, because I think you're

544
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: you're out in l A. I think, right, yeah, And honestly,

545
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: I love basketball, and nobody really watches the league. It's

546
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: not too late, and there's other factors of white people

547
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: don't watch. But for the most part, um, we don't

548
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: know how good the league is. I thought this, but see,

549
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: here's what I would tell you to Big ten, Big twelve.

550
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: You know, teams getting beat so much of it as

551
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: matchups like U C l A. God bless Abilene Christian,

552
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: but they would have had a playing over their head again.

553
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: You know, they play the Texas team to your point,

554
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: that had the emotional championship victory in the Big twelve tournament.

555
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: We all love watching them. And then U c l

556
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: A had a pretty tough fight against Michigan State and

557
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: now they're looking at a c U and their kids

558
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: are amped because they realize a CU just be Texas,

559
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: So matchups are so important. Um. I would note one

560
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: thing is not a matchup related issue is Dana Alman,

561
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: because that joker always goes to the sweet sixteed. I

562
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: think it's five times in eight years. Because he's truly

563
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: a He's made for this tournament as a coach because

564
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: he coaches both offense and defense. He has a defense

565
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: which sometimes is man sometimes zone. It's confusing. Um, it's

566
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: hard to prepare for in a couple of days. Sometimes

567
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: he presses you. If he's got more talent than you,

568
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: he'll try to strangle you with the press. If he's

569
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: got less talent than you, he'll he'll just jab at

570
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: you and back up and run the shot clock down.

571
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: He's a master of tempo, and he's also got a

572
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: healthy team, which he didn't have, excuse me, for half

573
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: the year. So I'm not surprised by them. Not I

574
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: was a little surprised by Working State. My man Wayne

575
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: sne came out of nowhere. I had no idea they

576
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: were any good until they want to pack twelve tournament. Yeah.

577
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Wayne Tinkle had to quote this week Fran about how, hey,

578
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: we're not that worried about the regular season we use

579
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: it as a ramp up because everything is all about March,

580
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: and you know, some of the stat guys are like, well,

581
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: well shucks, I'm looking at stats trying to project games.

582
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: I had Oregon State, nobody had them winning anything going anywhere.

583
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: You when you were coaching, how much did you practice

584
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: during the regular season so you were ready for March

585
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: because some of these guys gotta still get to March,

586
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: you know. I Wayne, as a friend, I don't get

587
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: that one. You know, I don't get that one because

588
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: if they don't win the Pack twelve tournament, they're not

589
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: in the field. So I mean, it's one thing if

590
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: you're always in the field like a Kansas or Michigan State,

591
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: and you can experiment in the middle of the Big

592
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: twelve or Big ten. But no, for the most part,

593
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: we treated every game like it was life and death.

594
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Um in the regular season than in our conference tournament.

595
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: We figured out the stuff as we went along, how

596
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: to rest guys, different things like that. But uh, you know,

597
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure what Wayne meant by that,

598
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, because they were fortunate enough to win their

599
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: tournament deserve and they deserve to win. They played one

600
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know that they were holding anything back,

601
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: like I don't think they were holding Ethan Thompson back

602
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: from the you know, superstar in the in the in

603
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: the a n c A Tournament. But again they caught

604
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: a match up with with Oklahoma State, a reasonably young team,

605
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: um that had to win under their belt, and you

606
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: know they got to they got the job done. And

607
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: here they are. All power to him and kudos to Wayne.

608
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: He's a he's a friend. Better chance to beat Gonzaga,

609
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: Oregon or USC. I'd have to say Oregon as much

610
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: as love Evan Mobley, and I think, you know we're

611
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about him. I think he's such a

612
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who the You know, there's gonna be

613
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: five great draft picks this year in my opinion. You know,

614
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: at the at the top of the draft, he's certainly

615
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: in that mix to be number one. You know, it's

616
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: still not a fatal company yet, despite what the mock

617
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: draft guys think, because I think I think getting back

618
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: to Kid, Kid's the safest pick. You know, in Big

619
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: Dog was the safest pick, but Jake Kidd went number

620
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: two and Grant Hill went number three, and Grant probably

621
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: would have been an all time great had he not

622
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: gotten hurt. So I think Kate is the safest pick.

623
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure Mobile or Suggs or maybe even

624
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Green will end up being the best player in

625
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: this draft. So they do have a great player at USC.

626
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I just trust in Dana Altman more than I do

627
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Evan Mobley, I agree. Let me ask you about while

628
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: you're mentioning Evan Mobley. Uh, you know, I'm sure you've

629
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: seen Chris Bosh comparisons because he wears the number four

630
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: and he's Sky and you know there's some Kevin Garnett

631
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: in there without like the vocal tenacity. Who who else

632
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: does Mobile remind you of? Well? I mean those are

633
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: those are good ones, you know. I mean, like he's

634
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: his own player because he's not as mobile as k

635
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: D was k D and we've seen it in the NBA.

636
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: K D it's really a six eleven two guard if

637
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: he wanted to be right, I mean, he's been a

638
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: four or four or three or two. He's he is

639
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: what he wants to be. And there is a lot

640
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: of Chris Bosh and this kid, I think he handles

641
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: it better and on the perimeter in the open court

642
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: and Chris did um. I went and checked Chris was

643
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: a shot blocker at Georgia Tech and that that didn't

644
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: necessarily end up being that in the NBA. But I

645
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: would say this, I think he's uh, I think he's

646
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna be an All Star? Okay, yeah, I don't. I mean,

647
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: I think this kid has a chance to be a superstar.

648
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: What about all NBA? For sure? If you asked me

649
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: to project, I would be surprised if he's not. He's

650
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: that good. So what about Kate Cunningham similar All Star

651
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: or higher ceiling? Well, I don't think. I don't think

652
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: he's got His athleticism still troubles me, like he reminds

653
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: me in athleticism of a healthy Brandon Roy. He's gonna

654
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: get where he wants to go, but he's not gonna

655
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: overwhelm you, and you know, uh, three sixties slam on you.

656
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: But he he just he has a presence on the

657
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: court that is real. I think I think Kate Cunningham

658
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great teammate in the NBA because

659
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: his personality is I'm the best guy on the court.

660
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: But I can't be the best guy in the court

661
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: without making my teammates be great because is there I

662
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to put this on the kid,

663
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: but is there a hint, just a smidge of Luca

664
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: slow mo game, always finding the open guy? Absolutely? You

665
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: know I didn't. I've told you before. I didn't think

666
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: Luca would be this good. I don't think anywhere do

667
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean? And you know, so, yeah, there's definitely. And

668
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: I think that's a guy that he models himself after

669
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: because what you learned in the NBA is because of

670
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: the space, uh, and the ability of your teammates to

671
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: be great players. Because who let's face it, everything's relative,

672
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: but all these guys in the NBA are are great players.

673
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: So with with with the space is so important to

674
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: a guy like Luca or Kane, because all right, you

675
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: want to crowd the lane on me, then my guy

676
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: over here, uh you know, Uh, Tim, Tim Hardaway, you

677
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: know it's is knocking down threes. You know you're gonna

678
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: leave me open, Okay, Kyle Korver is gonna make a couple.

679
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: So they all these guys always get to the basket

680
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: because of the space and because of the hand check rule.

681
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Cade's gonna get to the basket. I just don't think

682
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: he's an elite athlete the way we think of elite

683
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: athletes like Jalen Green, Who's gonna be a high pick

684
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: as well, elite athlete. It's certainly let's go to quickly

685
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: to Houston Syracuse. UM. You know, Jim Behan does it again.

686
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: Double digit seed to uh, the sweet sixteen, the two

687
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: three zone. Just mystifying opponents this game against Houston, who

688
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: who who do you give the edge to? Here? Well,

689
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: I will say this, what helps Houston is five days

690
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: to prepare for the zone because UM to play Syracuse

691
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: on the second part of a opening round weekend and

692
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: only have one day nearly impossible. And my my analogy

693
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: with the Syracuse zone has always been I coached against

694
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: it obviously at St. John's is UM college basketball plays

695
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: man to man. That's what I would call a fastball. Uh.

696
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: There are teams that play some zone with their man.

697
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: That's the curveball. Okay. Jim Beheim has the Mariano rivera cutter.

698
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: He's throwing it every pitch and you know what's coming

699
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and you still can't hit it or it's breaking your back,

700
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: so you have a better you know what I mean.

701
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: That's That's my analogy because you know, like when you

702
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: play man to man, um, if you're an elite team,

703
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: you're man to man is like a ninety a mile

704
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: and hour fastball. You don't need a second pitch. You

705
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: can throw it by people like Randy Randy who Johnson. Yeah. Yeah,

706
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: well you know, but if your man isn't that good,

707
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: you play a little zone with Jim. It's all zone,

708
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: nothing else. All right, So the last question about the tournament.

709
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: Any thoughts as to when Duke U n C Kentucky

710
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: Are they instantly coming back? I mean, we just saw

711
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: Duke's best player transfer out, Roy Williams. You just watch

712
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: that game against Wisconsin. You're like, what are these guys doing?

713
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: Then they there are seven footer decides he's transferring, uh, Kentucky.

714
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: They had Johnny Jusang He he decided I'm out of here,

715
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: let me go to U C. L A. Or is

716
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: it saying there are the crossroads? Is that a little

717
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: too harsh or is this just a one year blow?

718
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a blip. Now, listen, um, when

719
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: when Zion Williamson shows up again or somebody like that,

720
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: he goes to college whichever whichever place he goes to

721
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Duke or Kentucky, they're gonna be great again. But I'll

722
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: tell you what I really believe has happened. I believe

723
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: that teams in their comfors in this case, the SEC

724
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: and the and UH and the SEC figured out, we

725
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: we can only beat these guys. We can't beat him

726
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: with talent. We can't get one of them. We can't

727
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: beat him with talent. So we gotta get talent. But

728
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: it's got to be older, experienced talent. That's why we

729
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: talked about the Bailers and the Virginia's and the teams

730
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: like that, the Villanova's that are are making a commitment

731
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: to get old. And so I do think that all

732
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: three and I've said this about Cal, who's a friend,

733
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: he better adjust quickly. And I'll tell you how they're

734
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: going to all adjust. They're gonna be wide open for

735
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: business when it comes to transfering. Transfers eligible right away.

736
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Now we're wide open. You average fifteen a game at Vanderbilt.

737
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: I know you. I know they're in our league. Uh sorry,

738
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Stackhouse. We're taking that kid in Kentucky and he's eligible.

739
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: So okay. So but that like wouldn't they weren't they

740
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: already doing that? Or do they not do transfer? Well,

741
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: John's done transfers. But Nate Sistina come on from Bucknell. Yeah,

742
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: remember that. You know what happened with him. It's okay.

743
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean Read Travis was all packed twelve and I

744
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: love Read. You know, we know the family. Well, my

745
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: my younger son played with his brother, but Ree Travis

746
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: or Olivier Saar this year. Right, you and I talked draft,

747
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: Right did we ever bring up Read Travis? No Olivier Sar.

748
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: There's a reason he was a seven ft one junior

749
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: at Wake Forest and didn't put his name in the draft. So,

750
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: like I think, I think what's gonna happen is they're

751
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: gonna be open for business for the great freshman at

752
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: a like the middle of the pack power conference, or

753
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: that great mid major player that could be a pro.

754
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: Like think about John Moran for a second, no offense

755
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: to Murray State. If John Moran has that freshman year

756
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: at Murray and coach k you know through the you know,

757
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: through the grape vine or the transfer portal, Hey, we're

758
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: interested in you. John Moran doesn't want to go play

759
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: with Zion Williamson, his former AN teammate. You're gonna see

760
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: a lot more this happening because freshman on the whole

761
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: don't get it done unless it's Zion or R. J.

762
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: Barrett or Anthony Davis or Michael kid Gilchrist. So yeah,

763
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: a handful of freshman get it done. Otherwise you're right.

764
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: If you've got an eighteen year old, I don't care

765
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: how good he is against the twenty a group of

766
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: twenty two year old he's gonna run into the problems

767
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: b J Boston this year right at Kentucky. The kid

768
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: the kids that uh, even Jayalen Johnson who left. I

769
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: don't care whether he left or not. I'm not gonna

770
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: assault his character. But the week before that he left.

771
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: An NBA scout who got his shots and was on

772
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: the road for the first time all season, was in

773
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: Miami and he said to me, kid is soft, he's solved,

774
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: and you know, three high schools and he quits. I mean,

775
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: let's face it, you did knocked doubt he quit, Okay,

776
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: But that's okay. I mean coaches quit when they take

777
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: other jobs. People hit that me a w Does that

778
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: mean a coach quick? Yeah? To coach quit? Yeah, okay, So,

779
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: but my point is this, Um, yeah, even Jalen Johnson

780
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough to get Duke over to Hump this year.

781
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: They actually did kind of play better without him, again,

782
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: not assaulting him at all. Hopefully he's grow, but he

783
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough to take them to another level of

784
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: the way Zion did. Let's put it. Yeah, no, certainly, Um,

785
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: I guess on that drafting, I'm just trying to think

786
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: back real quick before we get to the last question.

787
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: I feel like the guy you told me before the

788
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: last draft to keep an eye on was that Isaiah Stewart.

789
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: Is that who it was? Well, it was probably Isaiah

790
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: Stewart and Sadiq Bay. Sadiq Bay, Yes, villanova guy. Yep, definitely,

791
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: he had a monster. He's had some good, good runs

792
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: with the Pistons. But I think Stewart is rounding into

793
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: like could make first team All rookie Like right now,

794
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: he's playing so well that he's approaching maybe a candidate

795
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: for first My former assistant coach, Troy Weever drafted both

796
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: of those guys, that's right. Yeah, yeah, it was with

797
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: me in New Mexico before he you know, called me,

798
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: came into my office one day and told me Beheim

799
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: called him about an assistant spot. I said, you gotta go,

800
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta get out of here as quick

801
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: as you can. And yes, so he's he He had

802
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: Sedique Bay drafted by Troy Weaver Hunt. Yeah, and remember

803
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: now before we talk about Isaiah, I love both of

804
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: those kids. Sadiq was Eastern Conference Player of the Month

805
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: like a month ago. So Sadis had a couple of

806
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: monster games. And they love Isaiah Stewart, who, by the way,

807
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: had a huge chip on his shoulder because he had

808
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: always been to me the best high school big man

809
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: amongst Wiseman, who I still like a lot and Burning

810
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: Carrey and Isaiah was like, what are you guys talking about? Man?

811
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: I know I'm a little undersize, but I'm the warrior here.

812
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: So he's he's, He's I think precious a Chul was

813
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: another guy I really liked, because that's right, you did

814
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: like him. Yet St John's Is there anybody he went

815
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: to the right school. He went to the right team too,

816
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: because his intensity, Yeah, matches the Miami heat, certainly, is there?

817
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: Before what final question? Is there a player or two

818
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: in the tournament to keep an eye on this weekend

819
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: with an eye on the NBA. Maybe the kid Quiverly him,

820
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm probably Butcher's named the point guard who transferred from

821
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Villanova to Alabama. You know, he's a friend. I was

822
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: blown away by his skill. I mean, nobody can stay

823
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: in front of him. Well, he went to a good

824
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: place because at Villanova you gotta learn how to play

825
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: the way Jay wants you to play, and they had

826
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: you know, they had some trouble with that. So I'm

827
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: happy for him. He's a good kid. Um, you know,

828
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: it's a good question. I don't know that. I don't

829
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: have the teams in front me because I'm loll get

830
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: you at a zoom. But Scotty Barnes got a passive

831
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: from my liking though Scotty is he's slow mode. You

832
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: know he's Kyle Anderson. Kyle Anderson that I mean, yeah,

833
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I definitely think if you're if you're a draft nick

834
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: and you're your name, some teams show teams out there.

835
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: You Marcus, the kid Moody from Rkansas. Interesting. I just

836
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: talked to Muss about him at Coach Musselman Uh instant offense.

837
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: You know, the game has to round into shape. But

838
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: again it reminds me of Marcus Monk and those kids

839
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: that you draft who you was a Marcus Munk? I

840
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: think it was Marcus Munk because Malik market Arcus with

841
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: his brother and played in Arkansas played football, Uh in

842
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Speaker 1: the NFL. But no, I mean there's kids like like

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Speaker 1: Moody in this draft that are gonna go in the

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Speaker 1: first round and they're gonna take some time. As we

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00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: always talked about the develop Uh. What about the last guy,

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Speaker 1: Quentin Grimes at Houston. You know what, that's a great

847
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: story because he's made himself into a pro. He he

848
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Speaker 1: started in Kansas. What happened there, Well, here's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Number eight overall high school player. First game at KU,

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Speaker 1: he has twenty two against Michigan State in champions He

851
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: shoots up the mock draft boards, never played as well

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00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Frustrated, you know, he's not

853
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna be one and done, Homesick goes back to Houston,

854
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: where he plays for the same type of tough coach

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Speaker 1: as Bill self is in In Kelvin. Kelvin's done a

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Speaker 1: remarkable draft job of getting this kid to buy into

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Speaker 1: toughness and he's made himself and I think a first

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Speaker 1: round pick. He went from the end. He went from

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Speaker 1: being on the radar to off the radar to back

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Speaker 1: on the on the radar and a great kid because

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Speaker 1: when you go play for Kelvin, you're telling yourself, I know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get coached hard. Yeah, and that's what's happened,

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Speaker 1: and it's turned his career around. Some of these young

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Speaker 1: stars needed. So I'll wrap up with this. I haven't

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Speaker 1: been on social media for a couple of hours, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's somebody, if if they hired somebody,

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Speaker 1: but Indiana, what what are you hearing on that coaching search?

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Speaker 1: Or can they get the guy from Loyola Porter, who's

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Speaker 1: who's been phenomenal? Like what does Indiana do at this juncture?

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Speaker 1: Are they no longer the historically great Indiana program that

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Speaker 1: you know was so dominant that you know, Uh, the

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Speaker 1: hokey with Indiana is what are you willing to pay

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Speaker 1: the next coach? Because for example, and he's a good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine and I don't think he'll leave Baylor.

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Speaker 1: But Scott Drew went to Butler. Okay, he went to

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Speaker 1: Butler and he coached at Valpo where his dad was.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if if I'm Indiana, the first calls

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Speaker 1: I make, one of them would be Scott Drew and

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Speaker 1: paying five million dollars a year. If really want a

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Speaker 1: guy like that, I think Porter Moser would be phenomenal

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Speaker 1: at Indiana. Um, because he's a great coach and he

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Speaker 1: can He's like Dana Altman. No matter what talent you

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00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: give him, he has a chance to outcoach you. But

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Speaker 1: I I would really make a run at Scott Drew

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Speaker 1: or somebody else that's really good, that's somewhere else in

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Speaker 1: the can't thank us. It's off off top of my head.

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Speaker 1: But um, I think Indiana needs to pay up and

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00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: get the best coaches they can pay and and go

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Speaker 1: for swing, swing for a Grand Slam. Yeah, did I mean?

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought the guy they hired Archie, I

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Speaker 1: thought he was good. Was he just uh? Well? You know,

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Speaker 1: I know the Miller family, like they have worried about me.

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Speaker 1: About Archie from day one is he never embraced He

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Speaker 1: always seemed like he was worried, like you you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like the look on his face, coaching

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Speaker 1: in games, press conferences, short with the media. You are

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Speaker 1: the you are the most visible person in that entire state,

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Speaker 1: and so you have to embrace that the way Cal

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Speaker 1: has a Kentucky. You know, John loves being the coach

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Speaker 1: at Kentucky because they love worshiping worshiping him and he does.

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Speaker 1: He does. And I think the Indiana coach has got

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Speaker 1: to have personality. It's got to be someone that people

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Speaker 1: can identify with. And um, I don't know what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do, but that's my first call with me. Scott Drew.

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Speaker 1: Does Scott you think you know Scott Drew well? Does

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Speaker 1: he have that personality, the vibrant Hey, this is Indiana

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Speaker 1: without a doubt. I just don't know if he would.

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Speaker 1: He's got such a great thing going to fail or

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Speaker 1: I just don't see him. Believe who would ever thought

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Speaker 1: I would say that coming out of my mouth thing

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Speaker 1: a bailor that he's not gonna leave for Indiana but

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Speaker 1: he's got a friend. Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see who they hire. Great stuff Frand

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Speaker 1: for Chilla ESPN announcer. I mean he does everything. He's

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Speaker 1: mr Draft. We'll talk to you in a few months.

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Speaker 1: Fran after right before the draft. Always a pleasure. Jason

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Speaker 1: can't wait to catch up right. Thanks a lot