1 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Crime Round Up, Joshua, shit to get in here. 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Good night. What a week? What a week? Okay, I've 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: just got to jump in here real quick. Things are 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: developing quickly. Even though there's no arrest yet with the 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Celeste Revis case, there will be. 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: I'm almost gonna guarantee someone's getting arrested at some point. 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: But it ain't. It ain't to death. 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: But I gotta just start with some of the things 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: that now is being reported that his friends are allegedly saying. 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: They are saying they thought she was much older. They 11 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: were shocked when they found out she was only fifteen. 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: They thought she was a student at USC Okay, I'm 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: jump in here. Do you have a daughter fourteen who 14 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: I would say is a genius? 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Ye? She's very smart, very aerodite, educated, mature. Yep, Absolutely, 16 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: she's fourteen. 17 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to talked to her for two minutes 18 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: as smart as she is, the vocabulary that she has. 19 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: She's fourteen, And anybody that spends time with teens sees 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: the ludicrousness of a fourteen fifteen year old child apparently 21 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: appearing for a long period of time. This wasn't just 22 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: once I met her, at the club. No, this was 23 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: living with her breakfast, lunch, dinner, doing whatever they were 24 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: doing for months. You cannot tell me you actually believed 25 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: she was over the aged. 26 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: She's a student at USC who don't go to class, 27 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: who don't have books, who don't study for tasks, who 28 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: aren't walking around complaining about a professor. 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: Again, we get back to what are people supposed to 30 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: be doing, and what do we demand from people in 31 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: the public when you see something, and whether our society 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: now is just too chicken to say things, and we're 33 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: chicken for unfortunately some good reasons. Half the time you 34 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: see people opening their mouth and speaking their peace, they're 35 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: getting canceled and they're getting attacked and they're getting beaten 36 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: up because of whatever the content or what they're talking about. 37 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: But it's almost the audacity of people standing up and 38 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: being heard that offends some people. And that's really hard 39 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: because you want to know what woul to save Celeste's life. 40 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Someone figuring out that a fifteen year old shouldn't be 41 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: living in a house with a bunch of older men 42 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: doing all kinds of crazy party lifestyle in the middle 43 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: of la Someone should check that out. 44 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: Somebody should check that out. And how about this. You're 45 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: saying you thought she was legal, but she had all 46 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: these IDs. First of all, one fake idea will do it. 47 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Why do you need five? 48 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: By the time you see the second ID with the 49 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: different information, one of them is fake. 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: One of them's fake, one of them's fake. And you 51 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: know most kids freshman year of college figure out where 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: to put the fake one so they don't hand the 53 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: wrong one to the police officer. But having one fake 54 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: ID will do it. You don't need five. So why 55 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: would she have multiple IDs because she ain't legal? 56 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: Let's just rip the band aid. Here's in my opinion, 57 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: I never met one of these people, but I've got 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: a touch of life experience. I imagine when the beautiful 59 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: young woman who is the object of desire from the wealthy, 60 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: successful musician that's up and coming, who probably is paying 61 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: the bills for every person hanging out in that house, 62 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 2: You're gonna go up to them and go, hey, man, 63 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: she's dangerous. You got to get her out of here. 64 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: Stop partying with her. She's too young. Yeah, that friend 65 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: probably didn't get to stick around that much. And I 66 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: bet none of his friends really had the stones to 67 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: stand up and confront him and go, hey, dude, this 68 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: is not a good look. And if and when you 69 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: become more successful, this is going to become a major problem. 70 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: Or maybe someone decided to solve his problem, because I 71 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: keep telling people, we don't know what happened in her 72 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: final days, and we don't know what the relationship was 73 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: between her and anybody else associated with D four DV David, 74 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: whatever his name is. They could have been on the inns, 75 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: they could have been on the outs. There could have 76 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: been a triangle involved. There could have been just another 77 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: person who thought they were doing a good thing. There 78 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: could have been completely unrelated stuff. And one day she 79 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: was at the house and said, hey, I'll see you later, 80 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: and then she just never showed up again. And there 81 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: was a convenient car nearby that just happened to be 82 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: owned by a guy that owns the house, and the 83 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: bad guy put her in net. Like, I'm not saying 84 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: any of those are more likely or not, but all 85 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: the stories are not as likely or more likely than 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: not because we don't have the facts from the me 87 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: And as we've talked about, this me discussion is hard. 88 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: You've done the forensics, what are you thinking about? 89 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: One of the things that has been put out there 90 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: is that nobody has seen her since July. Well, if 91 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: that's true, you're moving that needle a pretty good distance. 92 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about somebody July, August, September, right, the changes. 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: You're not just talking about dcom. If she has been 94 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: in the trunk of that car since July, that's probably 95 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: one reason that it's been put out there. They thought 96 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: she was beheaded. It could have looked that way when 97 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: the car was put on the tow truck and moved. 98 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: The head could have rolled. It's just that easy. You know, 99 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: there's parts if you're going to be in a trunk 100 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: and it's going to get hot, to be just as 101 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: gross as I can be. She's turning it into soup. 102 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: And how she didn't leak out of that car, I 103 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: don't know. 104 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: It is nasty and gross to think about what happens 105 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: when any mammal or other living thing passes away. The 106 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: body doesn't just stop. There's not stacis, no men. All 107 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: the chemicals are still mixed up in there, All those 108 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: body processes are still chugging along. 109 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, by eleven to fourteen days, it's no longer a body. 110 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: No, And then you talk about where was it. Well, 111 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: it was in a front of a Tesla in the California. 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: Whoa hold on, I put a piece of chicken in 113 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: my garbage can and let it sit for Florida. It stinks. 114 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: And that's just a little piece of chicken. You've got 115 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: seventy one pounds plus of humanity with no care, with 116 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: just the heat that the physical condition of that body 117 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: is going to be hard to adequately explain. And I 118 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: just don't know how effective the science can be when 119 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: it comes to cause of death. And everybody, remember if 120 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: that comes back as an indeterminate or cannot be you know, 121 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: that's the entire criminal charge. 122 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Here's what it's going to come down to. There's already 123 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: been video that's been released. We've seen it. They clearly 124 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: knew each other. They were in the same space with 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: each other. That's not something he can deny. She was 126 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: in the trunk of his car. Period. 127 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna correct you. 128 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: I know you. 129 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: Got to say, funk share, get with the times. 130 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Get with the times. That's right, it was in the 131 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: front of the vehicle. There's no doubt the fronk. So 132 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, to me what you're looking at. It's going 133 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: to come down to her phone, his phone. When did 134 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: he stop texting and calling her? Because it doesn't matter 135 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: when he left to go on tour, doesn't matter when 136 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: all of her other friends that were friends of his, 137 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: everybody stopped at the same roughly the same time. I 138 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: know he did. He wasn't take it. Hey girl, where 139 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: are you? Uh? 140 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, and his phone. I guarantee there is going 141 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: to be some serious subpoena work going on over at 142 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: the various cell phone companies and folks, these are just records. 143 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: I know, we talk and we see these trials about 144 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: seal Brighton. No, this is just the record. This is 145 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: the same bill you get. How many times were they talking? 146 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: When did it stop? Okay, that's a good starting point. 147 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: Let's go look there. 148 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something that's happening. They're looking in places 149 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: y'all don't think they're looking. And I'll tell you one 150 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: mail deliveries orders. Was this child on birth control? Because 151 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: you can now get birth control through the mail, you 152 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: don't even have to go to a doctor. 153 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: Food deliveries. I'm seeing more and more subpoenas and other 154 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: investigations related to what we would just basically call the 155 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: digital detritus that we all create wandering through the day. 156 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: Every day, I'm deleting a thousand messages of spam and 157 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: not spam. Every day, I'm posting a thing. Every time 158 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: you post on Facebook, there's a little thing that is 159 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: registered on the registry that says that your phone was 160 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: here about this time when you said that. And the 161 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: amount of that data is it's inconceivable unless you really 162 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: sit down and spend time thinking how much disposable data 163 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: do you leave behind without ever knowing? And that stuff's 164 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: out there, and that's what good investigations focus on because 165 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: it's totally neutral, it's one hundred percent reliable, there's no 166 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: monkey in with it. The defense can't stand up and 167 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: start claiming that it's all nope, nope, nope, no, no, no. That's 168 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: the same record that was created every day before and 169 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: every day after. And here's the record where they interacted 170 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: in this way, which shows whatever it is, proof of life, location, 171 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: some knowledge of a person, place or thing. Finding when 172 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 2: that stops is the big first. 173 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Step that's right when it stops is key. And again, 174 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: she didn't have insurance, She didn't go to a doctor 175 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: or a dentist or things like that she didn't have 176 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: the means to do it. Anything she did, anything she purchased, 177 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: came through a source. We now believe that to be David. 178 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: So again to your point, if uber Eats was always 179 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: for two or more people and then suddenly it's for one, 180 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: then you can see what's going on. 181 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: It sounds silly, but literally it's the no he comes 182 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: to Quick or the store every day and buys a 183 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: pack of cigarette. Then that stopped, right. You don't even 184 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: need the counter attendant. You just got the camera from 185 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: the convenience store. 186 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: And terns patterns, patterns, patterns. 187 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: Literally, when they teach you evidence, they teach you. 188 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Habit habit, and when they break that habit, they break 189 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: that pattern. That's where I get That's where I get real. 190 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: Really, it's an exception to some of the admission rules 191 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: when it comes to Evans. If you can show that habit, 192 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: it comes in and the jury gets to consider it 193 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: as a habit. This is something mac does every day, 194 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: It didn't happen this day. That is then probable cause. 195 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: That is then something a specific articulable fact, which is 196 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: a term of art for lawyers and law enforcement. That's 197 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: probable cause. It can't be just a hunch. It has 198 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: to be a specific articulable fact. And when you can 199 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: share that specific articulable fact that indicates a crime has 200 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: been violated, boom, that's how you get a warrant. 201 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: And you know, there's mistakes that are made because at 202 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: the time of the murder, only the killer knows in 203 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: that moment, so they may think, oh, I got to 204 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: get all her clothes out of here. There can't be 205 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: any any you. 206 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: Know, I gotta go buy some bleach. I gotta gotta 207 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: go buy bleach. 208 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: I got to get rid of her shoes. I gotta 209 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: get big industrial trash bags. 210 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: Huh man. They just need to take a picture everybody 211 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: that buys that that giant pack of black contractor bags 212 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: in the off hours, because yes, you didn't need that 213 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: eleven o'clock in it. Now, really, I'm doing some yardwork. 214 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: You did not need that eleven o'clock. 215 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: But if he's got a box of that in his 216 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: house and only one's been removed and the other forty 217 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: six are in. 218 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: There, yeah right, yeah, But that's exactly what the good 219 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: investigation does, and it's getting the investigation's fingers out into 220 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: the community to show those changes and to then interact 221 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: with the people that may have had something to do 222 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: with her. That then gets into how you can generate 223 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: additional investigatory results in information When you meet these people 224 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: on the third parties on the outside and you work 225 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: up their background and intersection with the case, Well, what 226 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: happens if that person might need something from the police 227 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: or have a different interaction with the police. Suddenly little 228 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: squeezes and encouragements and favors start happening, which are all 229 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: totally legal. We try not to, you know, cripple our 230 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: law enforcement too much these days, and you give officers 231 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: the ability to really go do aggressive investigations pretty soon, 232 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: that's how you get the information that they didn't want shared. 233 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: And if there had been fights, if there had been issues, 234 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: for all we know, she was on the process a 235 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: storming out of an abusive relationship and was murdered, or 236 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: on the other side of that, she was a violent 237 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: monster who had serious da da da da da, and 238 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: then during an issue she was killed and he wasn't. 239 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's gonna be the defense, but the 240 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: privilege of having a jury with an open mind is 241 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: what the law enforcement is concerned about prior to bringing charges, 242 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: and they can't screw this up. This is high profile. 243 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: I believe David will be arrested, and I think he'll 244 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: be arrested soon. And I will tell you why. More 245 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: than all the other evidence that we all know about, 246 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: he canceled his entire tour to quote cooperate with law enforcement. 247 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: Who believes they need to sit down with law enforcement 248 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: more than one time when a friend is killed and 249 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: you didn't kill him, Nobody thinks that's going to take 250 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: three months. 251 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is your giant tour and you're just hitting 252 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: your stride now and charging more money per appearance and 253 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: selling more song. And this is someone you allegedly cared 254 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: about in your cooperation. From everything, man, this guy, there 255 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: was no question that she was probably with him. From 256 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: what I'm gathering, they basically knew where she was during 257 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: this missing time, and it was a yeah, please have 258 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: her come home, Please have her come home, and she wouldn't. 259 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: And I don't want to beat up on parents and 260 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: stuff like that, but we will eventually get back to 261 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: that decision of that discussion. What do you do with 262 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: a fifteen year old runaway? Because that's not an easy solution. 263 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: There's not a one, one stop fix. This is how 264 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: all fifteen year old girls get managed. If you come 265 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: up with the manual of how to manage a fifteen 266 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: year old girl, let me know, we'll sell it. I'll 267 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: make lots of money. It ain't going to be short. 268 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, what is what are 269 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: the odds that a fourteen year old girl is with 270 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: somebody who is famous that has a mansion and sexy cars, 271 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: and he's going to go in a world tour and 272 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: she hasn't told her friends from school that she didn't 273 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: have a secret Instagram page that they know about this 274 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: under a different name. There's no way people close to 275 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: her didn't. 276 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: Know now, and that's why I really believe that the 277 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: missing part is going to get a lot of scrutiny 278 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: because this David guy, it was just the world's worst 279 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: kept secret. You know, we're getting pictures of her concerts, 280 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: the school teacher people that she knew. There was this 281 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: known connection between them where she had shown up and 282 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: been with him before during a runaway and then comes 283 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: back and there's allegations that he shows up and then 284 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: she disappears again. So I think there's going to be 285 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: a lot of scrutiny on the was she a runaway? 286 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: What did mom in law enforcement know or not know? 287 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: Where was dad? What kind of discussions were had, because 288 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: I can't imagine during some of these discussions someone cop 289 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: mom was like, hey, you know she's like fourteen man, right. 290 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: Agreed, before we run out of time, I got to 291 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on Diddy and what happened today in court. 292 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: So leading up to this thing, people have been given 293 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: him character references and Josh, here's what just blows my mind. 294 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: You saw the video. Man, This isn't like well, I mean, 295 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: I've never really even seen you know, so and so angry. 296 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: I've never seen him upset. Maybe behind closed doors, but 297 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. You've seen the video, You've listened 298 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: to the testimony, You freaking went to one of the parties, 299 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: you know. So, to me, every single person that wrote 300 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: one of those support letters has zero credibility. 301 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe that that is gone to be 302 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: one of the penultimate reasons why the judge can kind 303 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: of push a lot of these letters to the side, 304 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: which is unfortunate that and we've talked about this in 305 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: prior cases. Impact letters are read they are considered, their 306 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: impact can really be limited depending on the dynamic of 307 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: who they're coming from and what they are. You are 308 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 2: admitting to being around and participating in these things that 309 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: are let's just say, to fall far outside of normal 310 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: and routine and regular. Okay, But it's America. We get 311 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: lots of freedom. Okay. But then you saw him beat 312 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 2: the breaks off a woman on the video. Well, you 313 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: know everybody's got a bad d No, no, no, no, no, 314 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: he beat the breaks off a woman on video. I 315 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 2: get it. I have fallen victim to my emotions before. 316 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: You've all heard my rants about guns are great until 317 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: you're having a bad day. Imagine if he'd had a 318 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: gun right there, God forbid. But but you're now going 319 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: to come out and I love loyalty, I love fidelity. 320 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: We should not be judged on one incident when we 321 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: have a lifetime of bridge building just because one fell down. 322 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: It's hard to take some of those letters really seriously, 323 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: given the continued participation in a lifestyle that was unabashedly 324 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: one percent admittedly freakish, but they had a freaky sex life, 325 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: and man, they did stuff that they got to do. 326 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: And here you are choosing this venue to come out 327 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: more than that. And this has been discussed a little bit. 328 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: Who these letters come from. I forget who it was exactly, 329 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: but basically every one of those letters had a financial 330 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: relationship dependent on mister Colmes. And it's not to say 331 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 2: that it's bad to be a boss, and it's not 332 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: bad to say that you employ people and make sure 333 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: that people have a living, but that bias is got 334 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: to be ultra clear. Hey, judge, please be gentle on 335 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: my guy, because I don't get a paycheck when he's 336 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: locked up, or I'll get paid more when he's out. 337 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: I don't think that that stuff's necessarily effective, but it 338 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: does highlight and we touched briefly on this before the show, 339 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: something that I did see. 340 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: But by you making that connection, if somebody were to 341 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: ever have to testify, that'd be the first thing I 342 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: asked him. He pay you? Are you on his payroll 343 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: at all? Did you see the video? Nothing? 344 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: Further, Yeah, these people aren't called as witnesses. You can 345 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: believe it or not defend yourself one hundred percent based 346 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 2: on your character and reputation. That is actually part of 347 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: the law. You do not have to address the facts 348 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: if you would like to present a pure character defense, 349 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: you are allowed to do that, and it has happened. 350 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: It's just not particularly effective tactic. 351 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: Well, I don't say I'm gonna need some video in 352 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: something ailse. 353 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, you just can't get ten people come 354 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: out here and tell me you're a great person. That's 355 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: awesome and all that. But I've been around, I've walked 356 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: that mile before. The effective thing that I really want 357 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: people to know because I was particularly impressed. And this 358 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 2: is the out of the box thinking that really sets 359 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: some lawyers apart from others. Brian Steele apparently was involved 360 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: in getting Diddy to start a program inside the jail 361 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: where he used I imagine his skills and funding and blah 362 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah to create some educational opportunities, not 363 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: for him but for the other inmates. Now those letters. 364 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: Sure it's self serving. Sure he wasn't just going to 365 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: do this even if he hadn't been around. No, it 366 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: is a product of the situation. But you get to 367 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: drink the lemonade after you collect the lemons, and this 368 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: is a little bit of lemonade because the judge got 369 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: to read some very good information that involved people doing 370 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 2: good stuff as a direct result of Diddy being in 371 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: jail working with at risk fragile YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. 372 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: That's the stuff for the judge goes, that's good stuff. 373 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: Listen. I'm a second chance person. I hope that this 374 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: program is authentic and something he wants to really do 375 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: and not just a stunt to make himself look good 376 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: for right now, because again, patterns, patterns. Where was this 377 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: ten years ago, twenty years ago when he made his 378 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: first million? I'm just asking the question. So let me 379 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: ask you this what explain to everybody what the Man 380 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: Act is and how that might play a role here? 381 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Because a Man Act sounds like something I want to 382 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: be a part of. 383 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: It's the best law in America. It's one of my 384 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: absolute favorites. It is. 385 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorites too. 386 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: It's amazing and it pops up in the weirdest places. 387 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure find story about that. The Man Act is 388 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: just absolutely one of the best laws out there. And 389 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: it's not new. Man Act has actually been around I 390 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: think since nineteen ten or something like that. It is 391 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: old and it's classic, and it shows up in the 392 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: funniest places, because the Man Act was the federal government's 393 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: attempt to regulate prostitution because they couldn't trust the locals. 394 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: And you think about this, this is turn of the century, 395 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen years ago. There were still some 396 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: rough and tumble parts of America. We didn't have fifty 397 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: states at this point, we had territories, and some of 398 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: these communities had lacks provisions in immoral activities, regarding immoral activities, 399 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: so the Feds came up and said, we're going to 400 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: create a federal crime, which has almost always going to 401 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: involve crossing state lines, and that federal crime in order 402 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: to get prostitutes. We're going to say, if you bring 403 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: a woman across state lines for immoral or indecent purposes, 404 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: you're now a federal criminal. And so the local magistrate 405 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 2: can't give you a slap and tickle and tell you 406 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: he'll see you at the brothel on Thursday. Because that's 407 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: really what was happening. Federal law enforcement, especially historically, very different. 408 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: When the Feds showed up in Texas, in California and 409 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: Oklahoma Man, the locals got scared because federal agents love 410 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 2: arresting local authorities Man Act makes it illegal to transport 411 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: people across state lines for immoral in decent purposes. Pretty straightforward, 412 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: Pretty rare because most of those charges are prosecuted by 413 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: local authorities. However, since it's a federal law, it kind 414 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: of shows up in a bunch of random pleadings. We 415 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: have successfully used it. You can add it as a 416 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: cause of action in civil cases for violations of the 417 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: Man Act. We have done that where we had a 418 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: business guy that was having in decent relations with one 419 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: of his employees and when he paid for her business 420 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: trip to go overseas, we used the Man Act to 421 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: say that is paying to transport her across state lines 422 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: for They got real serious, real quick, and we did 423 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: real well on that. 424 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: Okay, let's end on a good note. Tell us about 425 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: the case of Jack Johnson. 426 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: One of the big prominent Man Act cases. And Jack 427 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: Johnson was as famous as you get. He was one 428 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: of the legendary big man boxers of the turn of 429 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: the Center, and boxing at that era was just huge. 430 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: This is pre football. Baseball was barely a thing in 431 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: nineteen ten, boxing was the worldwide sport and Jack Johnson 432 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: was an incredibly popular, important and divisive figure because drum roll, 433 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: he was black and back then, man, this is America 434 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: nineteen ten, that was not something that landed in humanity 435 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: all on the same level. And one of the big 436 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: issues was his taste in partners and Jack Johnson for 437 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: nineteen ten was as progressive as you get by being 438 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: with a white woman, and that he was with a 439 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: white woman hooker, yeah, white woman, and that that didn't 440 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: land super great in different parts of America for lots 441 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: of reasons and time changes. And we're gonna avoid that commentary. 442 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: But the man acts how you get him because he 443 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: brought a woman across state lines for indecent, immoral sexual purposes, 444 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: and that meant he got convicted and it basically ruined 445 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: his life. And that's coming up here kind of recently 446 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 2: because of what the President's. 447 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: Done and what did the president. 448 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: Do posthumous, you know, the clearance of the name and 449 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: issuing that pardon to right the wrongs. Yeah, and I 450 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: need all the details on it. I don't have them all, 451 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: but as I understand, he has been exonerated posthumously of 452 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: the crime which love or hate him, President Trump has 453 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: a very clear history of relationship with women, being important 454 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: and non traditional and he has embraced that in his 455 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: large family. So I can understand why he would be 456 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: offended at the idea of someone being prosecuted merely for 457 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: bringing someone across state lines for sexual or indecent purposes, 458 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: because come on, we've all gone on crazy trips, your 459 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: kids go on spring break, you get a prosecutor, it's 460 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: real angry at you. And suddenly, well, that boy only 461 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: paid for that girl's trip because he wanted to have 462 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: sex with her. He went to Florida from Georgia. That's 463 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: the man act. Now does that die at trial? Absolutely, 464 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: but getting to trial can be an onerous and hardship 465 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: filled process, to say. 466 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: The least, and it can stay on that record. 467 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: Oh boy, wow, we talked about Genarlo Wilson. If we 468 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: ain't got time to get into that, we're called bj 469 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 2: Bernstein because that case. You don't understand how recent some 470 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: laws that we look at now and go that come on, 471 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: that could have never been against them. No, no, no, really, 472 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: go back twenty thirty forty years that was the law 473 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: and it's something. But how did we just burn up 474 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: all this time? We barely touched on things this year. 475 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: It flies every night with you maybe ever. 476 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: My dear, I'm telling it, just love it. 477 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Well, you have a good weekend, and you know, maybe 478 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: the man act will come up for me and Walt, 479 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: Let's see what you do. 480 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: Man, I'm trying to get me some man act here 481 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: one of these days, you know. You know, I've been 482 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: a single now for about six months. Even my daughter 483 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: was like, Dad, are you just hanging out with the 484 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 2: guys this fall? And I'm like, well, Dearcy isn't going 485 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: to start up here and I got all this work. 486 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: It is. Everybody deserves happiness, and really that's what I 487 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: want for everybody to have. This weekend is a moment 488 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: of time to reflect on the amazingness that we are 489 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: blessed with every single day, because no matter how bad 490 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: it is, it's worse somewhere else. And you have been 491 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: blessed and we got to remember that be thankful for that. 492 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: And I just hope you have an amazing week. 493 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: I can't add to that, Sugar. I appreciate you all right, 494 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: big love. 495 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: Everybody have a great week