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Speaker 2: What's up, guys, Welcome to a brand new episode that

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Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier a TV brought you by Toyda Wallace, the

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Speaker 2: official Wallace Right of USC. They're in your corner with

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Speaker 2: unlimited five you data that will not slow you down.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you who's not slowing down. Is this

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Speaker 2: man right here, the great Nick khn.

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Speaker 3: Nick. Thank you for joining me. Man. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: DC. Happy to be on longtime listener and viewer first,

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Speaker 1: so thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Nick, I got a question for you, because I

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Speaker 2: like going to the WWE. Is there a limit on

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Speaker 2: comps and is there any celebrity or person that has

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Speaker 2: kind of pushed up against the limit of people they

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Speaker 2: would like to bring listen.

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Speaker 1: Assume that most of the requests we get are hey,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to attend plus one, maybe plus two. But

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Speaker 1: we set a new a new limit about year or

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Speaker 1: two ago. It's called the Daniel Cormier. It's usually me

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Speaker 1: reaching out saying, hey, DC, we're going to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood. Would you like to attend? Yes, I'll

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Speaker 1: be plus forty three eight or whatever it is. Now

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Speaker 1: it turns out these are all of your students.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, wrestling, so yes, you certainly a soft spot

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Speaker 4: for what you're doing, and so we usually approve that.

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Speaker 1: To which sort of note of who approved forty four tickets? Oh,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Cornier, And the answer is we did.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome, man. I appreciate that the kids love it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm making dreams happen, Nick, I got all these

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Speaker 2: kids like love the Wwe just like me. They want

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Speaker 2: to be in the building and we also get to

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Speaker 2: go watching the access. We appreciate it truly. But I

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Speaker 2: wanted you on because so many things have happened. I

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Speaker 2: was there at the Stock Exchange when TKO was put

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Speaker 2: on the market for the first time, and there was

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Speaker 2: so many promises of great things. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: even the people there could have imagined Ari and Dana

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Speaker 2: and you guys all could have imagined that it would

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Speaker 2: be what it is today.

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Speaker 1: Well, by the way, just so you know, going into that,

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Speaker 1: which was September thirteenth, two years ago, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: when the conversation with Dana and Ari and Mark Shapiro

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Speaker 1: was Daniel Cormier.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It was an honor to have you there and to

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Speaker 1: by the way, to me, you're a true American success story.

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Speaker 1: You had a goal, you did what you wanted to

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Speaker 1: do with your life. You continue to do what you

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Speaker 1: want to do with your life. Most athletes have a

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Speaker 1: tough time segueing from in the octagon, if you will,

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Speaker 1: or on the field to being a broadcaster. You've done

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Speaker 1: it at the highest level. So all kudos and congratulations

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Speaker 1: to you on that. Look at TKO, we're merely a

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Speaker 1: two year We're merely two years into the race. Two

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Speaker 1: years in and you've seen the UFC deal with Paramount Plus, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that's all Dana and Ari and Shapiro

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Speaker 1: and a number of other great executives. You saw the

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Speaker 1: WWE's move of its premium live events are ples to ESPN,

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Speaker 1: which you know years ago would have been unheard of.

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Speaker 1: I saw WE and Monday Night Raw going to Netflix.

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Speaker 1: You see our continued partnership with USA Network for SmackDown.

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Speaker 1: So things are humming at this moment in time. That

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Speaker 1: being said, that can change in any moment so in

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Speaker 1: our business no different than your business. You got to

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Speaker 1: earn your keep every day, and that's what we're trying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been great to watch something go from

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Speaker 2: an idea and turn it into what it's become a monster.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of you know, PLS and ESPN. I remember covering

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Speaker 2: the WWE at WrestleMania Mack in twenty twenty three in

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, Brock Brock into WWE is such a monster.

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Speaker 2: He looks he looks in best shaped and I've ever

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Speaker 1: As you know, and I'm not saying you know in

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Speaker 1: And that's what he looks like, and that's his personification.

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Speaker 1: So as long as you know he sort of knows

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Speaker 1: things in advance, there's no issues. We're honored to have

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Speaker 1: him back and I'm happy he's here. Hopefully you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the War Games match. It he was in.

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Speaker 2: I didn't doude. The War Games match was awesome. Hey,

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Speaker 2: he's got it. So many of the guys have it now.

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Speaker 2: But I tell you, man, when he walks in, when

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Speaker 1: Look, you saw they were the last two to come out. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Rock came out and did his damage. You heard Roman's

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Speaker 2: That is what that is what you hope for when

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Speaker 2: you have those moments. But Nick, it doesn't happen easy

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Speaker 2: right in life. Oh by the way, so my assistance

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Speaker 2: sister was one of your classmates.

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Speaker 3: Her name is Genesis. That is a girl named Pannis.

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Speaker 3: They were like, tell Nick, We said Hi.

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Speaker 2: It's like Nick, you know what's crazy is like we

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Speaker 3: We may not even remember them, but you become a

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Speaker 3: part of their life. Right. I was in class with

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Speaker 2: The journey that we all take it's so different, obviously,

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Speaker 2: You told Stephanie McMahon that you had to go to

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Speaker 2: some money to finish law school. Hey, hey, Nick, we

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Speaker 2: make investments. We make investments. Your wife talk about making

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Speaker 2: an investment on King A right horse.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of you to say you were friend of Genesis.

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Speaker 1: So I went to school with in Hawaii. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and I, you know, we met. It's the fifth It's

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Speaker 1: a thirtieth anniversary of our first date. December one. Yeah, today,

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Speaker 1: She was nineteen, I was twenty one. We met at UNLV.

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Speaker 1: get a loan approved for my third year of law school. Look, DC,

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Speaker 1: I know you were very rich growing up. Oh hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm a man of the people. So all I know

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Speaker 3: You're so crazy my life today.

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Speaker 2: I told L Sending one day when he was talking

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Speaker 1: I'm only teasing you. Of course, I know the richest story.

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Speaker 2: And you know what I love most about that, Nick,

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Speaker 2: And I think that's probably why I was so drawn

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Speaker 3: And you have a very.

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Speaker 2: Busy schedule, right, But you even said it's always family

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Speaker 2: and I'll do anything for them. How do you balance that?

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Speaker 2: How do you balance life as a high executive in

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Speaker 1: Look, I think I try to do what I think

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Speaker 1: Oh No, that resonates with me, and I want to

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Speaker 1: of a Shack podcast. He did it with Ryan Clark.

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Speaker 1: Something was done, but he's the first person I here

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Speaker 1: Look, there's many impressive things that I inherited at ww A.

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Speaker 2: That's my boy right there, that's a bad boy, bron Breakers. Hey,

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Speaker 3: He sat in my locker room all day. Nick.

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Speaker 2: He talked fighting, he talked wrestling, he talked knowledge force,

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Speaker 1: And keep in mind, his father's Rick Steiner, remember when

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Speaker 2: He was on ESPN, he was on our show, Me

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Speaker 2: The studnami might just be my favorite move in all

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Speaker 1: And by the way, just so you know, and I

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Speaker 3: I love dropping my weight on people.

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Speaker 2: When I get my athletes and they're like training doing

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Speaker 2: They're like, coach, what is this. I'm like, let's call azunami.

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Speaker 1: By way, just quickly, when you did that ref guest

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Speaker 1: He calls me like two seconds later, He's like, I

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Speaker 3: So that's all.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, and Dana's the maand I appreciate him in

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Speaker 3: You're also doing Zoofa Boxing. No, Nick, you don't stop.

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Speaker 3: You're doing zoo for boxing.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of us doing it, including Dana, who's

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Speaker 1: Hartey in Saudi, who have been phenomenal partners. They're eight

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Speaker 1: We're trying to get this thing into shape. To me,

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Speaker 2: And part of that is in matchmaking, right, Like matchmaking

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Speaker 3: Best features, features production.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that any companies can match the UFC

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Speaker 1: So you just nailed it. It's the storytelling. So if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to be awesome. Exit there's a

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Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you one thing. Hey, when it was

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Speaker 1: We're just going to do our thing, So let them

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Speaker 1: to appear in front of Congress Thursday, December fourth to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Muhammad Ali Enhancement Act. Also appearing will

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Speaker 1: be Lani Ali, Muhammad Ali's wife, and Andy Foster of

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Speaker 1: the California State Athletic Commission. As you know, the California

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Speaker 1: State Athletic Commission voted unanimously six nothing to support the

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Speaker 1: Enhancement Act. And again, what this means, DC is the

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Speaker 1: act is currently written that'll stay in place. We're not

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Speaker 1: looking at one word of it. We're not looking to

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Speaker 1: change one comma. But in addition of what exists will

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Speaker 1: be this new option where you don't have to use

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Speaker 1: these sanctioning bodies and pay three per in your perse

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Speaker 1: and there's a super champion champion in recess, all of

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Speaker 1: this chaos and nonsense that we think in part ruin boxing.

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Speaker 1: Our effort is going to be to do away with that,

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Speaker 1: at least for us, and if fighters want to stick

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Speaker 1: with the old way, go ahead. That will remain an option.

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Speaker 2: And why you know that having more options in that

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Speaker 2: way is very important for the boxers and for the fighters.

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Speaker 2: Andy Foster has long been people talk about, well, this

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Speaker 2: guy's not getting paid, this guy's not patting paid. This

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Speaker 2: Andy Foster has many a time fed to people I

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Speaker 2: was doing this at the beginning of the UFC in boxing.

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Speaker 3: I know that these guys are making money at.

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Speaker 2: A crazy rate today opposed to what it was before,

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Speaker 2: because as the sport has grown, the compensation has grown.

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Speaker 3: He's been a supporter and it's great to hear that

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Speaker 3: he's going to be there. But that seems important to you.

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Speaker 2: Why is that important to you to be a part

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Speaker 2: of that, and why do you think you guys are

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Speaker 2: taking such a strong stance and trying to help win

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Speaker 2: the Ali act.

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Speaker 1: Look, we think if you look at boxing again, one

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Speaker 1: of the most popular sports, you know, decades ago. So

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Speaker 1: think about this, DC, how old are you now?

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Speaker 3: You're forty six.

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Speaker 1: Forty six, you young man, So I'm five years older

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Speaker 1: than you. It doesn't make many wiser, It just makes

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Speaker 1: them five years. So nineteen seventy one, Ali Fraser fight

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Speaker 1: each other Fight of the Century Madison Square Garden, such

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Speaker 1: a big fight that Frank Sinatra's credentialed as a photographer

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Speaker 1: for what was then Life magazine. Jerry Perencio, who later

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Speaker 1: founded Univision, is the promoter of the fight, along with

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Speaker 1: Jack Kent Cook, who subsequently bought the team now known

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Speaker 1: as the Commanders the Washington Yep Yep Yep Redskins. Ali

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Speaker 1: and frasery May each made two point five million dollars

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Speaker 1: for that fight. Your average NFL player in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: one was making thirty thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they made big money.

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Speaker 1: Big money. And it was nineteen seventy one. YEAHBA because

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Speaker 1: of the competition between the ABA and NBA, ABA average

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Speaker 1: player was making about seventy thousand dollars a year, so

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Speaker 1: again two point five million, verse seventy or thirty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: So if you were a big athletic kid you went

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Speaker 1: into boxing.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: What happened if you fast forward remove the Steelers from

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Speaker 1: the seventies. I really focused on Joe Montana in the

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Speaker 1: eighties and the forty nine er. The NFL became the

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Speaker 1: NFL and it took off. Yep. Berner Magic come in

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Speaker 1: in seventy nine, Jordan comes in in eighty four. The

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Speaker 1: NBA takes off, but the individual sports stay the same.

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Speaker 3: YEP.

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Speaker 1: So if I said to you in nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: who's the fastest man on the planet, you would say

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Or Carl Lewis's correct.

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Speaker 1: Let's see in the Olympics, if I said to you,

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Speaker 1: who's the best gymnast in the world, and yes, we

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Speaker 1: have some owned biles now the only one, the only

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Speaker 1: one compared to what it was in the individual sports,

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Speaker 1: so much so that in the early eighties, if I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: in the United States, two of the most popular athletes,

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Speaker 1: Okay Montana, Bird Magic, we got that McEnroe, Jimmy Connors, yep,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, Mike Mike Tyson, Boom Boom, Mancini, Sugar Ray,

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Speaker 1: Leonard Ye, you know the golfer Jack Nicholas, Nicholas sports stars,

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Speaker 1: but the leagues became the leagues in the individual sports.

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Speaker 1: Outside of UFC and outside of WWE Sports entertainment, they

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Speaker 1: all stayed the same, yep. And that's why one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why you start to see boxing fade out

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Speaker 1: to us again the storytelling with the right athletes, there's

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Speaker 1: a way for an opportunity with young fighter. We want

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Speaker 1: to get back into the localized gyms and subsidize some

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Speaker 1: of those gyms so it's easy for people to find boxing.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be cofficult, especially in the United

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Speaker 1: States and certain key international territories. And let's see if

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Speaker 1: we can do it. Nick.

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Speaker 2: It was I tell you, man, when I was growing

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Speaker 2: up in Louisiana, there was a boxing gym everywhere. There

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Speaker 2: was a boxing gym everywhere. If there was one thing

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Speaker 2: you could do, you could box and it costs nothing.

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Speaker 2: And there was always a guy in there that was

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Speaker 2: willing to train kids that didn't have money because they

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Speaker 2: knew that it could provide an option for you to

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Speaker 2: try to make a living.

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Speaker 3: For yourself. Nick, I'm gonna let you get out on

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Speaker 3: this one. Man. You won sixteen thousand dollars on will

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Speaker 3: of fortune. I did right.

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Speaker 1: We all fortunate. It was a long time ago back

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Speaker 1: I needed that sixteen thousand dollars. So and by the way,

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Speaker 1: you may remember this from your own life. When your

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Speaker 1: bank account goes from zero to sixteen, you think like,

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Speaker 1: I never have to work again.

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Speaker 3: It's all I'm ready, that's aver.

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Speaker 1: Drinks are on me, me money, and I got lucky

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Speaker 1: to win it.

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Speaker 2: And then next thing you know, a month later, you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, that sixteen thousand dollars was not actually

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Speaker 2: that much. I'm still in trouble, Nick Con, you are

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Speaker 2: the best. You are the best, my man. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: you coming on. You are the absolute man, and I

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Speaker 2: wish you all the best and good luck, and I

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Speaker 2: will see you at the start of WrestleMania season next year, guys,

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Speaker 2: which is the Royal Rumble, which is now on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: The Great Nick Con thank you so much for joining me, man,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: Until next time, guys. Peace,