Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl,
Speaker 2: all about them high school queens. We'll take you for
Speaker 2: a ride, and our comic girl sharing for the right
Speaker 2: team Drama, Queens of Girl Fashion.
Speaker 3: But you'll tough, girl.
Speaker 4: You could sit with.
Speaker 1: Us, Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drawn
Speaker 1: the Queens Drama Queens.
Speaker 5: Hi, everybody, Hi, I'm so sorry we weren't able to
Speaker 5: be there last week.
Speaker 6: Rob, how to go? It was a disaster too, aren't here?
Speaker 6: The wheels come right off the wagon.
Speaker 3: It was your first time hosting. I meant to text
Speaker 3: you too.
Speaker 5: I kept like thinking of it in moments when I
Speaker 5: was like driving or brushing my teeth or like the
Speaker 5: wrong moments, I was like, I need to text Rob.
Speaker 5: I gotta find out how it went. How did he
Speaker 5: feel about hosting the episode? You know, it's kind of
Speaker 5: a big deal, Like totally it fell apart what.
Speaker 6: There was a fair amount of nervous crying at the
Speaker 6: beginning on Life Gorgeous. Luckily, Lee and Antoine are just
Speaker 6: such great guys and such natural performers that they really
Speaker 6: helped carry me. And I think at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, we got something that is going to be usable.
Speaker 5: Amazing.
Speaker 4: I love that for you, though, I gotta be honest,
Speaker 4: I was feeling the exact same way.
Speaker 6: Joy.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking to myself, of course, because we
Speaker 4: have similar brains at like twelve thirty at night or
Speaker 4: like six forty five in the morning, when Rob's on
Speaker 4: the West Coast and it's a deeply inappropriate time to
Speaker 4: text him, I wanted to ask.
Speaker 3: All these questions.
Speaker 4: And I also felt myself, like back in my younger self, going, well,
Speaker 4: I'm sad I didn't get to hang out with the boys.
Speaker 4: I wonder what they talked about. I wonder if they
Speaker 4: had a good time, Like I was. I was amped
Speaker 4: that you guys basically had a treehouse experience episode. And
Speaker 4: also my little like younger self ego was wounded that
Speaker 4: the girls didn't get to come and play, especially.
Speaker 5: After watching that episode because it was just so fun.
Speaker 6: Well, that's why it was perfect, right, and that was
Speaker 6: sort of how I let in. I'm like, we're it's
Speaker 6: it's kind of funny because it's like our parents, like
Speaker 6: the parents are away and it's just like a boy's
Speaker 6: night in and like but it's the perfect episode for
Speaker 6: that because that's essentially what we do there as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah and no, it was great. We had a lot
Speaker 6: of fun, managed to keep things on track because with
Speaker 6: those two guys, it's like my brain wants to go
Speaker 6: in a million different directions conversationally. But it was great,
Speaker 6: and now it is awesome to have you back. I
Speaker 6: feel like before we even get into atoh eight, we
Speaker 6: do need to touch upon the greatness that was both
Speaker 6: of your performances in eight oh seven because you two
Speaker 6: so if you and Sharon at the at the Bride
Speaker 6: Expo is just like the episode. And of course it
Speaker 6: was like a heroin Strauss episode. So the episode was
Speaker 6: just rife with killer one liners. Yes, with the with
Speaker 6: the gist of them being between you and Sharon, and
Speaker 6: then when Joy pops in and Joy your stuff was
Speaker 6: so funny, like you trying in Earnest to show up
Speaker 6: as a friend, Hayley's trying to show up in Earnest
Speaker 6: as a friend for Brooke but because of what's happening
Speaker 6: hormonally with the pregnancy constantly undermining her at every turn,
Speaker 6: and just the comedy playing between you guys.
Speaker 1: Was so good.
Speaker 4: I will say I think that's one of my top
Speaker 4: five episodes we've ever done. I had the best time
Speaker 4: with you and Sharon and that little storyline, and especially
Speaker 4: it was a fun day.
Speaker 5: I remember that.
Speaker 4: It was so fun and everyone, I mean, the wardrobe
Speaker 4: was amazing, the set was amazing, Like I remember walking
Speaker 4: in there and thinking, Oh, this is going to be good.
Speaker 4: And especially because we are and I think really beautifully
Speaker 4: in this arc for everyone this season where people are
Speaker 4: really trying to figure out life, they're figuring out their emotions,
Speaker 4: they're figuring out things that require the maturity. Our characters
Speaker 4: have earned emotional intelligence. So to have just an all
Speaker 4: out comedic fun fest, yeah, it was relieving for me
Speaker 4: as an actor.
Speaker 3: And like you and I are goofy.
Speaker 4: We like to be funny and it was nice to
Speaker 4: get to show that and to do it with Sharon.
Speaker 5: Come on, she's such a genius everything she does. I mean,
Speaker 5: I tell you she always I said this already, she
Speaker 5: floats through every room she's in. But the way she
Speaker 5: played this character. And also I had totally forgotten that
Speaker 5: she was had this drinking issue, and so as I
Speaker 5: didn't realize that she was getting progressively more and more
Speaker 5: like silly and loopy. I guess I thought she was
Speaker 5: just being a little more happy or pushy or just
Speaker 5: but it felt so jovial that you couldn't help, And
Speaker 5: I think Hayley couldn't help but just fall in line
Speaker 5: and fall in love with her. And so when you
Speaker 5: find her collapsed in the hallway, it's like this, The
Speaker 5: turn was so great because I hadn't spotted it. But
Speaker 5: if you go back and watch, you can see Sharon's
Speaker 5: deliberate choices to progress.
Speaker 3: It's like the sixth sense.
Speaker 4: You don't see it coming, and then once you know
Speaker 4: the secret, you realize you saw it the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's the best kind of misdirect I think writers can do.
Speaker 4: And to your point, Rob heroin Stress are just such
Speaker 4: a good writing team, and they I think they just
Speaker 4: crush it from the funny to the emotional.
Speaker 6: Really, there was a line where it's when you're looking
Speaker 6: at bridesmaid's dresses and she goes, how about these? And
Speaker 6: you said, actually, I was thinking about I was planning
Speaker 6: on designing them myself, you know, something cute And she says,
Speaker 6: oh no, honey, the whole point is for your bridesmaids
Speaker 6: to look ugly so you look pretty. And I love
Speaker 6: that because it was perfect, right, it's there. It is
Speaker 6: the leanest joke in that there is like, there's nothing
Speaker 6: extra on it, because first of all, that's accurate. Why
Speaker 6: are bride'smaid's dress is always hideous? But it's a perfectly
Speaker 6: backhanded like, yeah, dear you them to look bad so
Speaker 6: you can look good.
Speaker 5: It's just so rude, so free.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because God forbid another woman look beautiful then you don't.
Speaker 4: It's such an antiquated way of thinking. And it's perfect
Speaker 4: for a mother in law, particularly for Brooks mother in law,
Speaker 4: because Brook's entire business is literally based on making other
Speaker 4: women feel beautiful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just so tone deaf. She just shows up so
Speaker 5: tone deaf.
Speaker 4: It's so good though, because it's it's such a perfect
Speaker 4: illustration of how these two do not speak the same language,
Speaker 4: they do not come from the same era, and it's
Speaker 4: you know, perfect.
Speaker 5: I also really like the Sharon didn't make choices to
Speaker 5: be aggressively pushy, that the pushiness just came out of
Speaker 5: the flow of her. It's it's the uh, what's her
Speaker 5: characters name, wait, Sylvia, Sylvia Right, It's like it's the
Speaker 5: it's the Sylvia Show. It's always been the Sylvia Show
Speaker 5: in her mind, and everywhere she goes it's just she
Speaker 5: just floats around. Oh no, no, no, oh, yes, yes, yes, oh,
Speaker 5: this is what we need to do. Oh that's what
Speaker 5: It's just so endearing. You love it, but she also
Speaker 5: hate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well that's the thing, right. She does the thing that
Speaker 6: good actors do, which is she makes it hard to
Speaker 6: just make a snap judgment on like who she is, right,
Speaker 6: because she's doing things that aren't cool, but she's coming
Speaker 6: from kind of a good place, Like I think the
Speaker 6: characters the best of the ones where like the water
Speaker 6: is muddied and it's not easy to go like they're
Speaker 6: great where they say. It's sort of like, man, she's
Speaker 6: kind of being a mom zilla, but she's also offering
Speaker 6: to pay for it, you know. It's like, ah, it's okay,
Speaker 6: so I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 6: At the end of the episode, obviously she gets canned.
Speaker 6: You have to help her get home. She passes out
Speaker 6: with all of her jewelry on Brave and at the
Speaker 6: end of it she says, hey, don't mention this to
Speaker 6: Julian and he worries about me, which also help tie
Speaker 6: back to last season when he was like, my mom
Speaker 6: was in a bad way, and we had a conversation
Speaker 6: about how it was like, this woman seems very put together.
Speaker 6: It doesn't make sense now we're getting a glimpse. But
Speaker 6: if you were in Brooks shoes and your mother in
Speaker 6: law did that and asked that of you, would you
Speaker 6: keep her secret or would you share with your partner?
Speaker 5: It depends on how often it happens. I think the
Speaker 5: first time, I might not say anything. If it became
Speaker 5: a pattern that I was noticing, then I would I
Speaker 5: would bring it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: God, that puts people in such a rock and a
Speaker 4: hard place. In between, such a rock and a hard place,
Speaker 4: because you never want to keep something from your partner.
Speaker 4: But to your point, especially when you don't know someone,
Speaker 4: I could see if that was a real situation, you know,
Speaker 4: putting myself back in the shoes of that character, thinking well,
Speaker 4: maybe she just got a little carried away. Today, you know,
Speaker 4: plenty of people do that, and you know, sometimes somebody
Speaker 4: drinks too much, and it's sort of the lore right
Speaker 4: of even like a rehearsal dinner at a wedding, you know,
Speaker 4: half the people there get shit canned and then they're
Speaker 4: hung over the day of the wedding, Like, how many
Speaker 4: times have we heard that story? So I feel like
Speaker 4: you could rationalize it to yourself in a way, and
Speaker 4: especially because they're having a hard time, I could see
Speaker 4: wanting to ingratiate yourself and not make it worse, not
Speaker 4: make your mother in law hate you. But on the
Speaker 4: flip side, it would make me feel so icky to
Speaker 4: keep a secret. So I feel like, especially at this point,
Speaker 4: thinking about how young our characters were being in our
Speaker 4: mid twenties, now different story, I think we've all gotten
Speaker 4: to the point where you're like, look, you just got
Speaker 4: to figure it out, be frank, deal with you. But
Speaker 4: then I might have been like, wow, we had such
Speaker 4: a good time, and they definitely gave your mom a
Speaker 4: lot of champagne, but you know, obviously because she said
Speaker 4: you'd pay for everything. Like I feel like I would
Speaker 4: have tried to make it not her fault but alluded
Speaker 4: to the fact that she wound up drunk.
Speaker 5: You would have been passive aggressive.
Speaker 4: So what you're saying, No, I think I would have
Speaker 4: tried to do you think that's passive aggressive?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think that's so protective.
Speaker 6: Well, no, it's not aggressive, but it is.
Speaker 5: It is like, Okay, maybe I don't know the definition
Speaker 5: of passive aggressive. I thought it was that you're saying
Speaker 5: something directly, but you're not being directive about it. You're
Speaker 5: being passive about being saying something that is.
Speaker 3: V But that's when you're mad at someone.
Speaker 6: Wouldn't it be passive gossiping?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: The way I look at it is more like I
Speaker 4: don't want to rat on her, and she's asked me
Speaker 4: not to say something, but I don't want to lie
Speaker 4: to Julian, So I think I would have said something
Speaker 4: in between, like they really gave you so much champagne yesterday?
Speaker 5: Like whoa hinting?
Speaker 4: You know? But I would have told him a little,
Speaker 4: but not said I had to carry her home put
Speaker 4: her in bed and then she told me not to
Speaker 4: tell you, you know again, in my forties, I would
Speaker 4: have a very different conversation.
Speaker 5: Because it's your partner.
Speaker 3: Though, yeah, it's your.
Speaker 4: Partner, but you're also twenty and it's his mom, and
Speaker 4: I don't I see, I see how.
Speaker 6: Tough that is, but I hear it, like I hear
Speaker 6: what you're saying, lout joy because I would like listen
Speaker 6: It's not like she went to Applebee's on a Tuesday
Speaker 6: afternoon by yourself and got you canned. Right, that would
Speaker 6: be like, oh, oh, okay, you're right.
Speaker 5: Yah, that's a conversation.
Speaker 6: It is a highly atypical environment that is va tailored
Speaker 6: to like let's get a little boozy and have fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And I'm a watcher, like I if I notice behavior,
Speaker 5: I don't I hold onto it. I'll put it in
Speaker 5: my filing cabinet. But I don't do anything about it
Speaker 5: until I see it becoming a pattern, and then I
Speaker 5: become aware.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because you have to make sure you're not
Speaker 4: filling in a story, yeah, based on a moment, because
Speaker 4: of any subconscious or preconceived notion you have. So you
Speaker 4: have to make sure you're not filling in the blanks incorrectly.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And an environment like that, like you're talking about rob
Speaker 5: when it's all catered to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like of course they're giving the mother of the
Speaker 4: bride or the mother in law a ton of champagne
Speaker 4: at a wedding expo.
Speaker 3: So I see how.
Speaker 4: And again, hats off to Heroin Strauss because they made
Speaker 4: it sticky for Brooke. And when I think about the
Speaker 4: life experience. We're all bringing to this conversation about what
Speaker 4: would we do. Imagine trying to figure this out at
Speaker 4: twenty two or twenty three years old, like nightmare.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what would you do Rob today or then? I
Speaker 6: mean in my twenties, I would have kept the secret
Speaker 6: because I just wouldn't want to rock a boat. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I kind of It's funny cause when you answered Joy,
Speaker 6: I went, yeah, that's what I would do. I would
Speaker 6: gather with some more data. But then when so I
Speaker 6: was talking, I kind of agreed to it because it's like,
Speaker 6: so if your answer was sort of the like halfway
Speaker 6: between keeping the secret and gathering data, where it's like
Speaker 6: I'm going to I'm going to tell you some of
Speaker 6: the information without like laying it on super thick and worrisome,
Speaker 6: you know, because I think now it's like it's my partner.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to that's that's my primary I'm not
Speaker 6: keeping secrets, Yeah, because I think that's how I would
Speaker 6: let myself off the hook, is just go like nope,
Speaker 6: you know, this is the dieout. Everything else comes second.
Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna go ahead and share that because
Speaker 6: I suck with secrets. Also, I'm a terrible Secret Surprise Keeper,
Speaker 6: Me too, Surprise Keeper. Yeah, so can I ask.
Speaker 4: You a question? Okay before we move on. This will
Speaker 4: be the bridge between the episodes. I panic when I
Speaker 4: have to, for example, like you just said help with
Speaker 4: some sort of surprise, and people are like, you're an actor,
Speaker 4: You're supposed to be good at this. And the thing
Speaker 4: that always comes to mind for me is, no, you're
Speaker 4: missing the point. Other people write the dialogue. We memorize.
Speaker 4: That's what we're good at. We make the dialogue true.
Speaker 3: When you ask me to come up with the fib
Speaker 3: to do the thing, I'm not a writer. I don't
Speaker 3: want to do it. I'm bad at it.
Speaker 4: I start to get weird. I start to panic. People
Speaker 4: are like, why is your voice going.
Speaker 3: Up and octave. I'm like, I don't know what are
Speaker 3: you talking about. I am the worst at that.
Speaker 4: Okay, onto episode eight, Take us Away, Rob, Here we Go.
Speaker 6: Season eight, Episode eight, Mouthful of Diamonds Air date November ninth,
Speaker 6: twenty ten. Nathan's career as an agent takes a big
Speaker 6: step forward when he visits Atlanta. While Haley consoles Jamie
Speaker 6: regarding his new braces, the drama between Brooke and Sylvia
Speaker 6: finally comes to a head, Oh boy does it, and
Speaker 6: Chase makes a decision regarding Mia and Alex does He
Speaker 6: directed by all love this man, Mike Leone, and it
Speaker 6: was written It was.
Speaker 4: For our lovely friends and listeners at home. Mike Leone,
Speaker 4: you've heard us talk about before. Our script supervisor on
Speaker 4: our show, the person who literally keeps every single note
Speaker 4: and beat and moment organized in the entire script in
Speaker 4: every episode, sits right next to the director. I think
Speaker 4: there's probably nobody who knew our show better. I agree
Speaker 4: with that, and God, he directed the heck out of
Speaker 4: this episode.
Speaker 3: I just loved it.
Speaker 6: Also, hats off to Mike Cleon. I've told the story
Speaker 6: on the podcast, but he The best burn I've ever
Speaker 6: received on a set was courtesy of Mike Leon while
Speaker 6: shooting our show one day. I was normally very good
Speaker 6: about my lines, but I just I went up on
Speaker 6: a line. I was like, what's that line, Mike, You'll
Speaker 6: scream me across set because he's far away, and he
Speaker 6: shouts it back to me. I go thanks, and then
Speaker 6: he just goes, it's a good script, you should read it.
Speaker 6: That's right, And I just died so to this day.
Speaker 6: I still repeat that to people when they ask for
Speaker 6: a line. You got me, Mike.
Speaker 4: Just the funniest, sweetest man, Mike Leon.
Speaker 5: He really was such a sweetheart, so so generous.
Speaker 6: This episode had so much funny and good in it.
Speaker 6: I loved The opening scene was so sad and funny
Speaker 6: to me. It's when Brooke is signing away all of
Speaker 6: her assets and she's liquidating everything she's signed all over
Speaker 6: clothes for bros. Close overbros. Excuse me. And at the
Speaker 6: end of it, when she's kind of just sitting there
Speaker 6: shell shocked, there's like a pause and the lawyer goes,
Speaker 6: could I have the pen back?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I noticed that too, wrong, Like they even stripped her
Speaker 6: of the ballpoint pen.
Speaker 3: Couldn't just be like keep the pen just you know,
Speaker 3: it's fine?
Speaker 5: So good? Yeah. The look on your face too, like
Speaker 5: sure you can take this? Yeah great all her pen?
Speaker 6: Even this, speaking of looks on face is joy You
Speaker 6: pull off an eye patch quite well?
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you a much.
Speaker 5: Shoting consider it for my next look. Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 5: I remembered that. Isn't that funny? All the random things
Speaker 5: that we remember. There's so many scenes we shoot that
Speaker 5: I'm just like I have no recollection of being in
Speaker 5: that location or anything, and that one I really remember
Speaker 5: wearing an eye patch.
Speaker 6: You. I was very appreciative of your performance because you
Speaker 6: you always do this and I always say that, but
Speaker 6: you fully committed to the lame parent jokes. Yes see,
Speaker 6: there's a later scene in which you're wearing the wonky
Speaker 6: glasses and the messed up teeth and I and it
Speaker 6: even because what struck me was you're funny in the
Speaker 6: whole scene. But the scene ends Jamie leaves the room, yes,
Speaker 6: and you just you just create this additional moment where
Speaker 6: you kind of turn back to camera because it's sort
Speaker 6: of like over your shoulder ish and you sort of
Speaker 6: like like do something with your mouth and you look around.
Speaker 6: It clearly wasn't scripted. I was like, look at her
Speaker 6: just leaning into the absurdity, Like there's no vanity in comedy,
Speaker 6: and you were hilarious because you looked for none.
Speaker 4: What I loved about that beat too, is that what
Speaker 4: it told me as an audience member was that Haley
Speaker 4: was having a good time. Yeah, you know, not just
Speaker 4: for Jamie's sake, by the way that you were enjoying yourself.
Speaker 4: You were having a silly day with your kid, and
Speaker 4: it it took the what Rob's talking about the nature
Speaker 4: of like you know what we call dad jokes. It
Speaker 4: took the dad joke a step farther and it made
Speaker 4: it yours. And I was like, yes, that's so nice,
Speaker 4: that's so cool.
Speaker 5: I think I've discovered it, which is funny. You know,
Speaker 5: I wasn't a parent then, but I was actually pregnant,
Speaker 5: so I was going to be. But now that I
Speaker 5: am one, I think I've one of the secrets to
Speaker 5: parenting is that Rob really genuinely enjoying yourself. Like all
Speaker 5: the things that we do to entertain our kids, it
Speaker 5: just you know, you can go through the motions, but
Speaker 5: if you can't find a way to make old McDonald
Speaker 5: has a farm like actually fun for yourself, like.
Speaker 6: You're going to be bored.
Speaker 5: Like that's part of enjoying parenthood is do you know,
Speaker 5: how do you sing Twinkle Twinkled Little Star in four
Speaker 5: different languages? Or like teach your kids a sign language
Speaker 5: or whatever it is. It's like something you can get
Speaker 5: out of it too.
Speaker 6: Yea of my day is doing voices and stupid bits. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and if and so, like we ran into this problem
Speaker 6: a lot when we were trying to find a nanny.
Speaker 5: No one knows how talented you are except your kids
Speaker 5: and your wife, right, like, because it's amazing the kind
Speaker 5: of talent that really comes out when you're.
Speaker 6: With your kids, because it's a terrific mix of desperation,
Speaker 6: exhaustion and a spark of talent. And but truly, like
Speaker 6: the key is like to just not care, to not
Speaker 6: care about how you look, to let it all go right.
Speaker 6: And we ran into this issue when we were like
Speaker 6: trying to see if we could find a nanny up here.
Speaker 6: We found people who were great at like looking after
Speaker 6: a kid and sort of doing play. But when it
Speaker 6: came time to do a voice or be out and
Speaker 6: out silly not in their wheelhouse, and boy, that shuts
Speaker 6: things down so fast. We had to start saying, like, hey,
Speaker 6: silliness is our brand here. If you're not comfortable doing
Speaker 6: voices and outrageous like silly bits, like, it's not going
Speaker 6: to be a good fit. Because like, you're right, that's
Speaker 6: the key. It's like enjoying and just not caring how
Speaker 6: dumb you look.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's part of it, I think, like you're saying,
Speaker 4: when you get to the eighteenth repetition of something or
Speaker 4: the one hundred and fortieth repetition of whatever song Twinkle tonkle,
Speaker 4: It's like you're so desperate for the laugh that every
Speaker 4: parameter goes out the window. And isn't that really just
Speaker 4: what great improv is?
Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, that's what acting is. I mean, you just
Speaker 5: gotta push all the boundaries.
Speaker 3: You're like, I'll give you anything you want. You want
Speaker 3: me to do it in a headstand?
Speaker 5: Fine?
Speaker 6: Yeah, truly were those braces actually Jackson's real braces?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got right.
Speaker 6: I became a storyline. I thought, that's it.
Speaker 5: That's his little head gear. So funny.
Speaker 6: And how how far along in your pregnancy do you
Speaker 6: recall around this time?
Speaker 5: I looked like I was five or six months along.
Speaker 5: I mean I was, I looked big.
Speaker 6: You're not like big big, but you you can tell
Speaker 6: you are. You are starting to grow a human being.
Speaker 5: I actually wonder if I was wearing a pad at
Speaker 5: any point, because my on screen pregnancy was ahead of
Speaker 5: my personal pregnancy, so it's possible I was wearing Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Because I'm remembering at the end of the season, we
Speaker 4: had to obviously get you out, so you didn't come
Speaker 4: to Puerto Rico. Yeah, and then I remember, which sucked.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I've never felt worse. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I guess we're all going to the beach and you're
Speaker 4: not coming. But do we send you photos and say
Speaker 4: wish you were here? Or does that make it worse?
Speaker 4: Like what do we do? But I remember how weird
Speaker 4: it was. I don't know if this helps the timeline.
Speaker 4: This is episode eight. I remember how weird it was
Speaker 4: when you had to come back and do the episode
Speaker 4: where Haley has lydia, because you were like, I just
Speaker 4: did this. This is to this is like way too remember,
Speaker 4: because we talked about I sat in the hospital room
Speaker 4: with you and you were like, I don't know how
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell them that I don't want to
Speaker 4: do this scene where I give birth on camera. I
Speaker 4: don't want to do it. And we were like, just
Speaker 4: tell them, just say no.
Speaker 5: I think I was nervous about it because I don't
Speaker 5: remember I was going to try, like I really would,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's work, I know, but it was weird.
Speaker 3: It was too personal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right when we and yeah.
Speaker 4: Whenever that happens, you had already had the baby a
Speaker 4: few weeks before then three.
Speaker 3: Or four weeks.
Speaker 5: No, it was the other way around. When we got
Speaker 5: to this, I didn't I didn't want to go through
Speaker 5: a fake labor with people that I loved around me,
Speaker 5: oh and have it like like I didn't want to
Speaker 5: experience my first labor that I was going to experience
Speaker 5: in like four weeks or whatever.
Speaker 3: It reversed in my timeline.
Speaker 5: Yeah, whoa, that's what it was. I was time. We
Speaker 5: were talking uncomfortable with this. I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 5: and then we got there and I I felt like
Speaker 5: I was hyperventilating and it was a I was I
Speaker 5: thought I was having like a mental breakdowns, like this
Speaker 5: is the thing with my real life, Like I'm trying
Speaker 5: to have a baby for the first time ever, and
Speaker 5: now I have to do a fake labor that it's
Speaker 5: not real, but like Sophia's going to come visit my
Speaker 5: actual baby in the hospital, but now she's here in
Speaker 5: the fake hospital. Like I'm this is real life intersecting
Speaker 5: with fantasy in a way that I can't make sense of.
Speaker 6: I got to go. So what ended up happening.
Speaker 5: I pulled Greg Aside, our executive producer, and just started
Speaker 5: like weeping and told him like, please, this is really
Speaker 5: hurting me. Can we can we do this later? Can
Speaker 5: we can we film this later? And I've never done
Speaker 5: that on the whole show. I'd never asked for a
Speaker 5: request to like I mean, I told you his story
Speaker 5: about Atlanta, Like I went to Great Links, you know,
Speaker 5: driving thirteen hours, like great lengths to make sure I
Speaker 5: was at work and got my work done. So this
Speaker 5: was it was an exception, but I'm really glad they did.
Speaker 5: Greg said no, Brad, let's shut it down. Moved on
Speaker 5: to the next scene, and they pulled it up a
Speaker 5: few weeks later after I'd had my birth.
Speaker 6: That's great.
Speaker 3: So that's what it was.
Speaker 4: We were in the hospital and then I'm combining two
Speaker 4: days we were in the h hospital before and then
Speaker 4: when we finally came back that they brought the whole
Speaker 4: scene back up.
Speaker 5: Yes, they brought it back up. And that day was
Speaker 5: hard because we were in that hospital setting where there
Speaker 5: were all those rocks to remember between the trailers. Yes,
Speaker 5: it's a gravel parking lot, but it was it wasn't
Speaker 5: just gravel. It was like no, like this big, big,
Speaker 5: big rocks, so weird. Anyway, I was really having had
Speaker 5: a hard labor and I was having trouble walking and
Speaker 5: I needed them to take me to set in a wheelchair,
Speaker 5: and I felt so ridiculous and like over dramatic, but
Speaker 5: I was like, I this is hard, I need I
Speaker 5: need help. But then they had to wheel me over
Speaker 5: these rocks, which kind of made it worse.
Speaker 4: I was just.
Speaker 5: Like this shit man, it really was.
Speaker 6: Yes. Meanwhile, everyone from a distance is like, look how
Speaker 6: committed Joy is to her character.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I think they were like, look how dramatic
Speaker 5: she is.
Speaker 6: No, I wish they would have just not done that
Speaker 6: scene because I got to say, labor scenes. Yeah, like
Speaker 6: we've all seen him. They all look the same, you know,
Speaker 6: but you're a trooper.
Speaker 5: We'll find out when we get there. I mean we'll
Speaker 5: watch it eventually. Sorry, we're totally off this episode right now. Derailed.
Speaker 3: It is helping us sort of track your timeline.
Speaker 5: Yes, so yeah, how far along I was? But yeah,
Speaker 5: it was really cute seeing Jackson with his braces and everything.
Speaker 5: And I liked the device.
Speaker 3: I really liked.
Speaker 5: The device of Julian going around with his camera and
Speaker 5: finally having it work this time. So I love to
Speaker 5: set up that they presented at the beginning of it
Speaker 5: failing and then previous episodes excuse me, and then bringing
Speaker 5: it up to this point where he's really figured it out.
Speaker 5: I liked watching the artistic process. I like to see
Speaker 5: people open up and be honest. It was great, It
Speaker 5: really was.
Speaker 4: And it was an interesting way to just get a
Speaker 4: layer deeper with all these characters that we know. But
Speaker 4: there is something that happens when you're in a first
Speaker 4: person interview like that and let alone with someone you trust,
Speaker 4: and to see how sweet he is with Jamie at
Speaker 4: the top of the episode, it's so disarming that in
Speaker 4: a way, I felt like that disarming nature carried through
Speaker 4: every single interview and particularly seeing Nathan be the sort
Speaker 4: of torch bearer for this group theme of my life
Speaker 4: is changing and I don't really know what comes next.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure it out. I'm a I'm in
Speaker 4: a period of transition. Yeah, it was really beautiful.
Speaker 5: I loved Nathan in this episode. Oh so fun to watch.
Speaker 6: You did a great job joy of playing Hayley's I
Speaker 6: feel like discomfort being on camera. Yeah, because the first
Speaker 6: time I was weird. Because it gives it gives strong
Speaker 6: hostage vibes and I was watching it going, why do
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm watching a Ransom video? And they realize,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, Joy's playing it like. Haley is uncomfortable. She's
Speaker 6: not natural in front of the camera. You know, she
Speaker 6: used to be on a stage, not sitting directly in
Speaker 6: front of a of a lens. And it's funny because
Speaker 6: if you go back and watch it, it looks like
Speaker 6: you're being coerced to say everything you're saying, because especially
Speaker 6: because you're like, I'm I like parenting, I'm a I'm
Speaker 6: a good parent.
Speaker 3: It's fine, Yeah, I'm a good mom.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was definitely a choice.
Speaker 4: It was fun and what I like about it too
Speaker 4: is and it is also hats off to Mike Leone
Speaker 4: for talking to all of us in the way he
Speaker 4: did as a director. It's really smart when a director
Speaker 4: can be present for actors who are all doing the
Speaker 4: same thing but give them such different colors in it.
Speaker 4: And we needed the levity from Haley because Nathan is
Speaker 4: giving up his dream and even the metaph for you know,
Speaker 4: or the action rather of him taking the Ravens basketball
Speaker 4: down and putting Troy's football up, He's moving on to
Speaker 4: this next chapter, and he's not hiding that it's hard.
Speaker 4: He's hopeful, he likes it, he knows it's the right fit.
Speaker 4: He's proud of what he's doing.
Speaker 5: He's using the fact that it's hard to make it
Speaker 5: better to make it through exactly why are the other
Speaker 5: guy Troy?
Speaker 4: And I like that he's not hiding that it comes
Speaker 4: with loss. And then Brooke is in all loss. It's
Speaker 4: so sad. She doesn't know what to do. She feels
Speaker 4: like she's losing her identity. So it's really nice to
Speaker 4: sort of counter where Brooke is, to have Haley in
Speaker 4: this very comedic, uncomfortable I.
Speaker 3: Like my life. I don't know why you want to
Speaker 3: ask me about it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, why are we talking about this? I'm so confused.
Speaker 3: I like it's great, it's a great energy.
Speaker 5: And who know who else is in transition? Is Clay?
Speaker 5: This can for.
Speaker 4: It was so great.
Speaker 5: First of all, you had such a babyface. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: I'd never seen a baby face like you did. Was
Speaker 5: it the angle, the lighting? I don't know what it was,
Speaker 5: but you were like eight years old.
Speaker 6: Yes. In my confessional with Julian, I was like, oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, like like a twelve year old who ate
Speaker 6: too much salt?
Speaker 5: You committed to this bit with the can so well,
Speaker 5: you really figured it out. Good on you, physical comedy.
Speaker 6: Listen, there's some lines between uh Brooke and Sylvia that
Speaker 6: are my favorites. But suck it soup. I'm just gonna
Speaker 6: spoil it. Is my honorable mention. Yeah, I left out
Speaker 6: loud high up there, and I love the subtle nod
Speaker 6: back to it when Clay there's a very very sweet
Speaker 6: homecoming where Clay is waiting for Nathan at the airport
Speaker 6: and he's clapping for him. I love that friendship. But
Speaker 6: when Nathan gets in the car, he's like, what is this?
Speaker 6: And Clay just goes an electric can opener and it's
Speaker 6: perfect because he doesn't talk about it, so it's just
Speaker 6: like a little like to the audience for him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did that so well. It wasn't
Speaker 5: there was no cheese on top of it. It was
Speaker 5: just you just said the line and through the thing
Speaker 5: in the back seat. It's all it required. Cool.
Speaker 6: I conquered it. Now I'm never going to do that again.
Speaker 4: But I got that little spread of pride being like
Speaker 4: I solved the puzzle moving on like it was such
Speaker 4: a good little vibean actually made me.
Speaker 3: Laugh out loud.
Speaker 6: I also liked seeing Clay Uh. It was a great
Speaker 6: device when he spills the like chips are cereal and
Speaker 6: on the newspaper and then he sees Will's obituary. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And it was nice to see him go to the
Speaker 6: cemetery just because he's he got so close to dying
Speaker 6: and we haven't really seen him talk about it or
Speaker 6: feel anything about it, so it was I liked the
Speaker 6: sort of still quietness of him just sitting there and
Speaker 6: having that speech to Will's headstone, and he kind of
Speaker 6: ends it with saying like, thank you for what for
Speaker 6: what you did, I'm I'm going to earn it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And I just I thought that was so effective.
Speaker 5: And the mirroring of the earning with Troy as well
Speaker 5: in the way that Nathan was talking him through that
Speaker 5: at the end. I just love seeing this transition for Nathan.
Speaker 5: How did we shoot those scenes with the braves? By
Speaker 5: the way, was it the falcons? Falcons? Excuse me?
Speaker 6: So last episode there are only there's only one shot.
Speaker 6: It's the first shot we see where Nathan is sitting
Speaker 6: down with the representative from the Falcons and when I watched,
Speaker 6: I was like, holy cow, we're at the Falcons stadium.
Speaker 6: Why do I not remember this? And then the scene
Speaker 6: is so short. I thought, oh. I went back and
Speaker 6: watched itause I thought, oh, maybe we green screened it,
Speaker 6: because you don't go to you don't go all the
Speaker 6: way to this Atlanta Falcons stadium and only do one
Speaker 6: scene and then there's a bit on like Nathan the escalator.
Speaker 6: So I was so confused because it was clearly not
Speaker 6: a green screen. So this episode it really pays off
Speaker 6: because holy cal First of all, shout out to Stephen Howell,
Speaker 6: who played Troy, because he's I'm so earnest and believable
Speaker 6: and likable.
Speaker 3: He's a great actor.
Speaker 6: It is the perfect pairing with Nathan. And but he
Speaker 6: got to dress up, get to excuse me, suit up
Speaker 6: in Atlanta Falcon's gear with the pads and take the
Speaker 6: field through the tunnel with an actual crowd there. How
Speaker 6: did we do this?
Speaker 5: I mean, we must have just gone to a real
Speaker 5: game and made a deal with the Falcons and told
Speaker 5: everybody in the stadium, here's what's going on. We're shooting
Speaker 5: a TV show, so badass. I love it when shows
Speaker 5: do stuff like that that's incredible.
Speaker 6: We had Tony Gonzalez, who was an Atlanta Falcon at
Speaker 6: the time, who, by the way, much like Jerry Rice,
Speaker 6: very good on camera.
Speaker 3: Great actor, right, yeah, Tony was great.
Speaker 6: He's gone on to host, so I guess it makes sense.
Speaker 6: But I remember I was watching going like, oh, oh, okay,
Speaker 6: you know, and then just going back to what you
Speaker 6: said about Nathan, like, like, one thing I liked is he
Speaker 6: is not hiding the fact that he's in transition and
Speaker 6: he doesn't have it figured out. I like that in
Speaker 6: his conversations with Troy and in his conversations with Tony Gonzalez,
Speaker 6: he references it and he's like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: But it was just cool to see that as opposed
Speaker 6: to like the other like kind of cliche guy thing
Speaker 6: of like nah, it's good or I'm good or what
Speaker 6: are you talking about? And said he was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't have it figured out, man, wish me luck.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: Oh, that's so cool. Like he's self aware enough and
Speaker 6: he's not he's not hiding the fact that like he
Speaker 6: doesn't have it figured out and he doesn't know what's next,
Speaker 6: but he's just showing up for it.
Speaker 5: In a mature phase of life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it reminds me kind of of what we
Speaker 4: were talking about at the top of the episode, even
Speaker 4: figuring out what would you do in this situation. What
Speaker 4: I love about where all these characters are is there
Speaker 4: in these phases of discovery and change that require a
Speaker 4: level of emotional intelligence, to be patient, to be honest,
Speaker 4: to be upfront about what you're going through. You have
Speaker 4: to check your ego and just say this is what
Speaker 4: it is. And especially for you know, it's TV, obviously,
Speaker 4: but for something that people always used to bring up
Speaker 4: about our show, like wow, for a small town, these
Speaker 4: people all have these really big, unique careers, Like it's
Speaker 4: nice to see all these people who've succeeded in ways
Speaker 4: that are kind of ridiculous just say, I don't know either,
Speaker 4: And I think it's one of those things that was
Speaker 4: good for us, you know, to be experiencing as actors,
Speaker 4: because the challenges felt grounded and real. But these are
Speaker 4: the things that our fans talk to us about where
Speaker 4: they say, oh, this made me feel so seen, that's
Speaker 4: what I was going through. The circumstances are really unique,
Speaker 4: but the transitional journey in life is so universal and
Speaker 4: even now looking back at it as a viewer, I
Speaker 4: feel like I see myself, I see all of you,
Speaker 4: I see people I know, like I see relationships to
Speaker 4: people's real lives in this show, in this episode.
Speaker 3: In a way that made me feel so proud that
Speaker 3: we got to do this.
Speaker 6: So nice.
Speaker 5: I think that's great. Yeah, it was really. It was
Speaker 5: tied together all so well with Julian being the voyeur
Speaker 5: and you know the well, maybe that's too aggressive of
Speaker 5: a word, but the you know.
Speaker 6: The.
Speaker 5: Glue that's sort of like, yeah, not really what I meant, but.
Speaker 4: Well, in a way, he kind of he fills the
Speaker 4: role almost in a therapist as a documentarian in this episode.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like you get to see people on.
Speaker 5: The couch, yeah, but giving us that feeling, you know,
Speaker 5: that feeling that you're talking about, And it was so
Speaker 5: carefully crafted to bring us to that place where Troy's
Speaker 5: running out and it's the stadium and the smoke, and
Speaker 5: you know, we're we're cheering for him, sure, but we're
Speaker 5: cheering for us and for everything that we're achieving and
Speaker 5: the new transitions and the new phases of life everyone's
Speaker 5: stepping into. That's the culmination. So they gave us that
Speaker 5: in this big, gorgeous, glittery, huge moment.
Speaker 4: Yes, wonderful, and it was a cool thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: it gave me chills when I watched him run out there.
Speaker 4: I was so excited that we'd done that, that we'd
Speaker 4: been able to pull off the partnership, you know, and
Speaker 4: it's our second time, by the way. We did it
Speaker 4: with the Bobcats for James, and now we're doing it
Speaker 4: with the Falcons for Steven who plays Troy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, you know, the NBA, the NFL,
Speaker 4: Like these were big deals, and in a really interesting way.
Speaker 4: There was the juxtaposition of going from the field with
Speaker 4: him where I was like, oh my god, like true
Speaker 4: dream come true energy to seeing Brook alone on that
Speaker 4: bench on the roof finally just say I'm having a
Speaker 4: really really hard time yeah, and just be in it.
Speaker 3: It was really.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I loved the choice even in the edit to say, like,
Speaker 4: sometimes you reach the peak and sometimes you're you're hitting
Speaker 4: rock bottom, and and those things are going to happen
Speaker 4: on the same day.
Speaker 5: That goes to Julian's comment to you about happiness, which
Speaker 5: I loved this comment that happiness is a mood. It's
Speaker 5: something that comes and goes. It's not a state of
Speaker 5: being that you will achieve and just be there permanently.
Speaker 5: It's yes, it's a it's a mood, and that's okay.
Speaker 5: And I like that, he says. I think if more
Speaker 5: people wish I wrote it down, But it was something like,
Speaker 5: if more people thought of it this way, the world
Speaker 5: would end up actually being happier because everybody wouldn't be
Speaker 5: in this constant state of like, oh no, why am
Speaker 5: I not happy? It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 4: Well, and the fact that he compares it to hunger.
Speaker 4: He said, it's a condition. It's like being hungry.
Speaker 3: That's what goes.
Speaker 4: And to talk about it in that way after acknowledging
Speaker 4: that most people think, if I get this, if I
Speaker 4: get that, if I get this job, once I get married,
Speaker 4: once I have a kid, once I buy that car,
Speaker 4: once I once I fill in the blank, I will
Speaker 4: be happy.
Speaker 5: Amen's sister.
Speaker 4: Then you miss your whole life waiting for a thing
Speaker 4: instead of living it. And we've all tried that it
Speaker 4: hasn't worked.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I feel like we still try it.
Speaker 5: I still tried subconsciously, and then I'm like, wait, why
Speaker 5: am I doing this?
Speaker 4: What am I doing exactly? But what a cool what
Speaker 4: a cool thing to do. And I thought, I thought
Speaker 4: Austin played the scene so beautifully because he didn't try
Speaker 4: to put a hat on a hat. He just said, look,
Speaker 4: this is what I'm noddling with, this is what I think,
Speaker 4: and maybe we'd be happier if we thought about it
Speaker 4: this way.
Speaker 3: And it's so perfect.
Speaker 5: It gives Brooke kind of a permission to feel like
Speaker 5: it's hard and like she's not having it. It's okay
Speaker 5: to feel that way because happiness will come again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the code of for this episode was so strong,
Speaker 6: and yeah, Julian was doing some great partnering because obviously
Speaker 6: the way it ends, like when Brook's having that moment,
Speaker 6: he just comes and just sits down next to her,
Speaker 6: which I love. You know. It's like he's not trying
Speaker 6: to fix it or talk her out of it. He's
Speaker 6: just like, cool, I'm just gonna be here with you,
Speaker 6: you know. And then earlier, I think, in the same location,
Speaker 6: when Brooke and Sylvia have just had it out and
Speaker 6: Brooke is chucking water balloons down the street, which is
Speaker 6: hilarious in and of itself. I guess this was something
Speaker 6: that Peyton used to do. Did you actually show that
Speaker 6: on the show? Did we know that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, yeah, we did a lot of water balloons.
Speaker 6: So it was so funny. But then that way that
Speaker 6: first of all, that seems funny because Brooke is like,
Speaker 6: I shouldn't have yelled at your mom, and as an
Speaker 6: audience member, I was like, you one hundred percent should have.
Speaker 6: You're not a doramat you did. You did the right thing.
Speaker 6: But I love At the end of it, Julian goes up, well,
Speaker 6: do you want me to go down there and walk
Speaker 6: around so you can practice your aim?
Speaker 3: I was like, it's so good.
Speaker 6: All right, let's get into the brook Sylvia of it all,
Speaker 6: because the lines in this episode were so funny. When
Speaker 6: she finally snaps, she says, you're a spoiled little bitch,
Speaker 6: to which Brook responds, okay, Drinki and ends it with
Speaker 6: good luck with being old God, and then the perfect
Speaker 6: blocking for the next bit where Julian is there for
Speaker 6: his mom and she has she has the washcloth over
Speaker 6: her eyes while she lays out on her fainting couch.
Speaker 5: I know where you're going.
Speaker 6: And she ends it with because of course, he's just
Speaker 6: being reasonable and the like, asking follow up questions, to
Speaker 6: which she takes it as being attacked and not believed.
Speaker 6: And she ends by saying she has poisoned you with
Speaker 6: her a perfect line that Sharon delivered perfectly.
Speaker 4: She sure did. Sharon is such an icon.
Speaker 5: And then Julian, we're done here, We're done here, We're
Speaker 5: done here, We're done.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: That was that was so so funny and for as
Speaker 6: funny as all of it was. I love the repair.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I love the sincere, not funny part of it where Brooke,
Speaker 6: showing her character, comes back and makes it right, makes
Speaker 6: an amends, repairs it, and she receives it and accepts it,
Speaker 6: and you guys, you know, end up sort of being
Speaker 6: in a much more I think, respectful, amicable place.
Speaker 5: That's so lovely. I actually don't want your money, but
Speaker 5: I still do want your advice.
Speaker 6: Right wow m h Yeah, I respect you enough to
Speaker 6: be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And there's something really inspiring to me about Granted it
Speaker 4: didn't go well in iteration one where the fight broke out,
Speaker 4: but for her to say I learned my lesson. I
Speaker 4: know what it means when you take people's money. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't want that energy in my family. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I feel like that's what comes out more in check
Speaker 4: in number two where they make up to say that,
Speaker 4: to say no, I still don't want this part. I
Speaker 4: know that that actually can be what poisons relationships, but
Speaker 4: I want you to be part of it. That to
Speaker 4: me was I was very impressed. I thought it's nice writing.
Speaker 4: That's a nice little life lesson right there.
Speaker 5: Sharon is so effervescent and so easy. She falls in
Speaker 5: line with all of us so easily. She just folds
Speaker 5: into the family like I want to see more and
Speaker 5: more and more of Sylvia means, I love this dynamic
Speaker 5: between the two of you guys and with Julian. It's
Speaker 5: so fun to watch.
Speaker 6: It's great and yes, to speaking of it's reminded me
Speaker 6: at the start of episode seven when Jolie's like, I
Speaker 6: don't know it's going to be my best man in
Speaker 6: Brooke goes well, who is your best friend growing up?
Speaker 6: And just as she walks through the background of the scene, Sylvia,
Speaker 6: I was, Oh, they are killing this nightmare mom thing.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I thought Brooks repair it's it was such
Speaker 6: a show or an act of respect and kindness because
Speaker 6: you can have that conversation and you can build a
Speaker 6: real relationship on top of it. Y. Yeah, if you
Speaker 6: don't discuss it, it's like you're never gonna really have
Speaker 6: There's going to be a resentment. And I know, but
Speaker 6: it's a Brooks way of going, like, hey, I take
Speaker 6: up space. Here are some boundaries inviting you to be
Speaker 6: a part of it. But now you know where I stand.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Something that dawned on me too, And I wonder if
Speaker 4: you guys got this the when Julian is explaining why
Speaker 4: his mom is so particular and he says, look, my
Speaker 4: dad wasn't around.
Speaker 3: It was really just me and my mom.
Speaker 4: I saw it on my face, and it like it
Speaker 4: took me back to sitting and making notes in the script, thinking, oh,
Speaker 4: Brooke knows exactly what that means. Because she didn't have
Speaker 4: her mom or her dad around. Her friends were her
Speaker 4: world and you guys still are you know these people
Speaker 4: Tree Hill? It's so important to her. And in that
Speaker 4: one sentence, I feel like Julian kind of gave Brooke
Speaker 4: a key to Sylvia because it's like she had nobody
Speaker 4: but her kid. I built a community of my peers.
Speaker 4: Of course, this woman feels threatened by me. I see
Speaker 4: Julian as my peer, he's my partner. She sees him
Speaker 4: as her only person, and so in this weird way,
Speaker 4: I thought that that simple thing that he said was
Speaker 4: what gave her the ability later to say, I understand
Speaker 4: why it could be scary for you that your son
Speaker 4: has me now, but you're still welcome in this family.
Speaker 4: You're still going to be part of this. And it
Speaker 4: was a very interesting sort of shift in I think
Speaker 4: the way she could see a parental relationship, especially with
Speaker 4: what she's been through with Victoria. And I was like, man,
Speaker 4: it's it's really simple dialogue, but it communicates a lot
Speaker 4: about the history of these characters.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 6: And the way that they wrapped up that scene was perfect,
Speaker 6: where it's like the repair has been made, You guys
Speaker 6: are all good, and she goes, well, it's all right,
Speaker 6: It wasn't even the worst part of my day, goes, oh, no,
Speaker 6: what happened? Some jackass hit me with a water balloon?
Speaker 6: What is wrong with people? Awful in your face and just.
Speaker 3: Laughing into her forehead exactly.
Speaker 6: Because she can't see your face but the audience can.
Speaker 6: It's it was just you guys crushed it. It was
Speaker 6: so good.
Speaker 3: It was so fun.
Speaker 4: That was my electric can opener moment. It was just
Speaker 4: for the audience, but as an audience member, it's so
Speaker 4: fun to watch.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what else was fun to watch was
Speaker 6: Mouth and Chase.
Speaker 5: I loved this. I didn't know I needed.
Speaker 6: Exactly this whole storyline of cleaning out the back room,
Speaker 6: you know, and Mouth opining about what's what he's gonna do,
Speaker 6: and Chase being indecisive and torn between the two women.
Speaker 6: It was just it was fun and it was like
Speaker 6: cool to see the friendship between those two and they
Speaker 6: both it's so good.
Speaker 5: It's such a relief not to have to deal with
Speaker 5: like sexual jokes and abous shots of women, and like
Speaker 5: it's like, thank God, we don't have to bear the
Speaker 5: emotional burden of this right now. We can just watch
Speaker 5: these two guys just trying to figure out life. It's
Speaker 5: so nice and there's so much fun to watch, and
Speaker 5: very much like we've gotten such excellent male friendship with
Speaker 5: Clay and Nathan.
Speaker 4: I love Stephen and Lee together. I love that they're vulnerable.
Speaker 4: I love that they're questioning. I love that they're talking
Speaker 4: about what isn't working?
Speaker 5: Another sign of maturity because Mouth usually with skills, you know,
Speaker 5: they're into shenanigans, like they're getting up to things. They're
Speaker 5: sort of goofing off. There's not a lot of real
Speaker 5: depth of conversation. There has been a few, but usually
Speaker 5: that's their routine with each other. So to see Mouth
Speaker 5: now entering into another relationship that is there's a maturity level,
Speaker 5: like everybody's leveling up. Yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker 6: And have you ever heard the expression you can save
Speaker 6: your ass or you can save your face, but you
Speaker 6: can't save them both at the same time.
Speaker 5: No, but that's amazing.
Speaker 6: I love that quote. But it's you see a lot
Speaker 6: of that happening when these guys like Nathan, like Mouth,
Speaker 6: are not trying to put up an appearance or a
Speaker 6: facade of like it's all good or I'm on top
Speaker 6: of it. Instead they're just like owning it and they're
Speaker 6: not trying to save their face or just trying to
Speaker 6: figure out what to do with their ass. You know, crazy,
Speaker 6: that's great. Laura isor is great? Who plays Aaron? Here's
Speaker 6: a question, by the way, highly googleable questions, So shout
Speaker 6: out to me for not doing thirty seconds of research
Speaker 6: on this, But was she acting before this show, because
Speaker 6: she's terrific and natural.
Speaker 5: Yes, she really is. She's so understated. I think I
Speaker 5: remember her just being terrified and being like, I'm just
Speaker 5: going to sit here and not do anything and say
Speaker 5: my lines. And I was like, that's the key, yeh,
Speaker 5: all you ever have to this? Yeah? She was great.
Speaker 5: I think I'm actually wondering if maybe we had we
Speaker 5: must have had it deal relationship with a label, Warner
Speaker 5: probably and Lindsay had. Lindsay Wolfington had artists that she
Speaker 5: was wanting to put on the show. Maybe Warner Records did,
Speaker 5: and they were trying to find artists that they could
Speaker 5: bring on to the actual TV show and not just play.
Speaker 5: So I think Laura was probably one of them. But
Speaker 5: she was great.
Speaker 4: She was so good, and the way she asked questions
Speaker 4: of Haley, I really just felt like the two of
Speaker 4: you were sharing about what it's like to try to
Speaker 4: make something, because how you trust a person with your
Speaker 4: art it's a gamble, you know.
Speaker 3: It's it's sort of like, that's scary showing up on a.
Speaker 4: Set and having to act with someone who's a stranger.
Speaker 4: But on day one they were meant to be your
Speaker 4: lifelong best friend or signing a deal for a record label.
Speaker 4: It's like it requires a fully surrendered trust fall without
Speaker 4: an evidence of why you should trust someone, and you
Speaker 4: just have to do it.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just showing up to do an indie
Speaker 5: film or an acting project with a director that you
Speaker 5: don't know and you haven't seen a lot of their work.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, I mean, I know what I can do,
Speaker 5: but we'll see how it turns out on the actual
Speaker 5: cutting day exactly.
Speaker 4: And I I think what I loved about watching you
Speaker 4: two talk to each other is I got the sense
Speaker 4: that Aaron and Haley we're having the same conversation about
Speaker 4: this gamble without having to necessarily say all of it.
Speaker 4: And I loved it. And to your point, Rob, I thought, God,
Speaker 4: she's so good. Has she been acting?
Speaker 6: No? Her only other acting credit is one episode of
Speaker 6: Bones that also aired in twenty ten Stop Yeah, which
Speaker 6: which is wild that she stepped onto the set and
Speaker 6: was like this good and this natural, and then it
Speaker 6: was also probably just like I'm good, I'm good on
Speaker 6: that she could dease. This is something she could easily do,
Speaker 6: and she probably just like, ah, i'm good with music.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 6: That's but I also liked they did this cool thing
Speaker 6: where I feel like there's this can happen a lot
Speaker 6: in shows where when a guest star comes in, they
Speaker 6: are immediately ready to trust or jump on board with
Speaker 6: whatever is happening with one of the main characters of
Speaker 6: the show, and it's only the main characters whoever question
Speaker 6: the new people like. The new people never have like stakes,
Speaker 6: They're just like, I'm all in whatever you say, I
Speaker 6: trust you. I like that she came in was and
Speaker 6: was real thorough with sort of vetting Hayley before deciding
Speaker 6: to sign on, because I think the easy thing would
Speaker 6: be like a record deal, I'm in, and instead she
Speaker 6: was like, Nah, what's your deal? Mature angle friend, what
Speaker 6: are we doing again?
Speaker 5: Maturity the difference between a twenty year old who's like,
Speaker 5: I'll take whatever I can get and somebody who's like, no,
Speaker 5: what I have is valuable. What do you have?
Speaker 6: Did you guys? I had this funny note that I
Speaker 6: laughed at that. I don't know if you guys, cos
Speaker 6: I don't think that the normal viewer would saw. But
Speaker 6: when at the Atlanta Falcons game, Troy and Nathan have
Speaker 6: their moment and it's before the game. Excuse me. It's
Speaker 6: when they're just on the field, the two of them, right,
Speaker 6: and they're having this like we did it, we're here,
Speaker 6: this is your dream, earn it, love it, blah blah blah,
Speaker 6: and then they they say a goodbye as if they're
Speaker 6: not going to see each other again, or at least
Speaker 6: for a while. And I found myself laughing, going, dude,
Speaker 6: that's your agent. You guys are going to be texting
Speaker 6: and talking probably every single day.
Speaker 5: But it was probably the last time he was going
Speaker 5: to see Stephen Howell because I don't think Troy came back.
Speaker 6: I don't think he does either, So I just thought
Speaker 6: was funny. I really loved Yeah, it's like you're gonna
Speaker 6: have literally be texting that guy questions tonight. He's probably
Speaker 6: gonna be texting you great game. He's there, He's literally
Speaker 6: going to be on the sidelines that they're like, hey, think, hey, hey,
Speaker 6: thank you for everything. No, no, no, hey, thank you
Speaker 6: for everything. It's like, you guys are going to see
Speaker 6: each other in like sixty minutes, goodbye, my friend, like
Speaker 6: Harry and the Hendersons, like, guys, you're driving home together.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Nathan and his whole family are at the first game.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're going to be
Speaker 6: on the sidelines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 5: Wait was I there? I wasn't there.
Speaker 4: I don't think you were there, But in my brain
Speaker 4: I assure he was right.
Speaker 3: Jamie was there, But in my brain, I.
Speaker 4: Assume you all would have gone and you probably would
Speaker 4: have been there. But yes, I think they just didn't
Speaker 4: want to fly everyone to Atlanta for sure.
Speaker 6: Also, they are still, despite being quite pregnant, they are
Speaker 6: still putting Haley in lots of short skirts, lots of platforms.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I know it's TV, but I found myself going, okay,
Speaker 6: all right, no sweatpants in her arsenal, no way, no
Speaker 6: athleisure where she's keeping it cute and chic.
Speaker 4: Rob It's a TV show, that's right.
Speaker 6: I know, I know, I just wanted to be in
Speaker 6: real life. So darn bad guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, We've got a question from Lisa, who also
Speaker 4: gave us her nickname show She that must be. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when you are going to direct an episode, do you
Speaker 4: get to pick the episode or is it you get
Speaker 4: what you get and you don't throw a fit type
Speaker 4: of situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you don't throw a fit like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they they make a schedule. Certainly when we
Speaker 4: have visiting directors based on their availability, then are recurring
Speaker 4: directors like joy When you were talking about Greg Prange,
Speaker 4: who I think directed the most episodes of our show
Speaker 4: of anyone, are on site executive producer, then.
Speaker 3: His would fill in.
Speaker 4: They basically have to build the director schedule like a puzzle,
Speaker 4: and then they would essentially slot us as directing cast
Speaker 4: in last because we're all there all the time anyway,
Speaker 4: so it's the easiest for us to work around other
Speaker 4: people's schedules.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but still pretty cool. Like they gave us big episodes.
Speaker 5: They gave it to Halloween episode, they gave me the
Speaker 5: Thanksgiving episode, like big stuff. Gosh makes me really grateful.
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought about that. Yeah, it's pretty well. Maybe
Speaker 5: I had, I just forgot. But it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: But it's dawning on you again and it feels nice.
Speaker 5: It's a kind of a great thing about having a
Speaker 5: short term memory is like I remember new things all
Speaker 5: the time, even though I already.
Speaker 6: You're constantly in a sense of awe and wonder.
Speaker 4: Well, it's like a memory pops up like it's like
Speaker 4: someone's blown bubbles by your face and you're like, wait
Speaker 4: a second, I know, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I love it. Honorable mentions do we have them? Oh,
Speaker 6: I've already spoiled the beans on minus Suck It Soup.
Speaker 5: Suck It Soup. That was great. I really want to
Speaker 5: give actually Mike leone to me, Like, I think he
Speaker 5: did such a nice job. He always he always did
Speaker 5: a really good job directing, and he worked so hard
Speaker 5: at it, and I don't think he got enough credit.
Speaker 4: I agree with that. I absolutely agree with that. I'm
Speaker 4: going to give mine to Austin. I think he is
Speaker 4: showing up everything he's doing right now as Julian. He's
Speaker 4: got this like really beautiful, quiet sort of strength, and
Speaker 4: he really glued this whole episode together for me, and
Speaker 4: I think it's a testament to him as an actor
Speaker 4: to be able to do that sort of service and
Speaker 4: be what every single other person you're in with needs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I just think.
Speaker 4: He's he's in such a great groove right now and
Speaker 4: I really appreciate what he's doing.
Speaker 5: Love it. I agree.
Speaker 3: We have a good gang.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's spin a wheel joy.
Speaker 6: Can we get that again? With less enthusiasm.
Speaker 5: It's been a well where it is? Oh, come on,
Speaker 5: so many Okay.
Speaker 6: Most likely to cry during a rom com me me
Speaker 6: my knee jerk was joy?
Speaker 5: Really? I mean I cried everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a weeper, do too.
Speaker 5: So yeah.
Speaker 3: I think because things.
Speaker 4: Are so busy, it's like, if I'm gonna, really I
Speaker 4: don't know, elevate something, it's usually because it's something that
Speaker 4: I'm fired up about. But then I realize, because most
Speaker 4: people see each other on the Internet that I think
Speaker 4: everyone thinks I'm like fired up all the time. And
Speaker 4: mostly I'm just emotional and reading. And then I get
Speaker 4: mad about something and I'm like everyone should know about this,
Speaker 4: this is really important. And then people hang out with
Speaker 4: me and they're like, wow, you're really like sensitive and
Speaker 4: also kind of nerdy and you make weird jokes and
Speaker 4: I'm like does that not translate? So yeah, I'm definitely
Speaker 4: a rom com cryer.
Speaker 6: All you do is read, eat sandwiches and cry. I
Speaker 6: thought you'd be different. You know who also would cry
Speaker 6: to spill the beans listen closet case rom com crer
Speaker 6: you James Lafferty, Oh wow, no way O a weeper?
Speaker 6: Such a softie?
Speaker 5: Ah he's so stoic that surprises me.
Speaker 6: Wow, he can't watch How to Lose a Guy In
Speaker 6: two I'll burning through a whole box of Kleenex.
Speaker 4: I like when the boys know things about each other
Speaker 4: that we don't.
Speaker 5: I need verification on this. Yeah, character, character, it's going
Speaker 5: to be skills right because of the notebook.
Speaker 4: Isn't that the whole thing?
Speaker 3: That was the whole thing that he's a scribing softy? Yeah,
Speaker 3: well that's funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so skills.
Speaker 6: This was fun.
Speaker 5: This was fun.
Speaker 3: What do we have next week? Joy?
Speaker 5: Season eight, Episode nine between Raising Hell and Amazing Grace?
Speaker 5: Oh okay, a nice place to be. All right, we'll
Speaker 5: see you then, Matt, Hey, thanks for listening.
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