1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and this is 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know good podcast. Right. How you doing man? 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm good? And well how are you the same? A 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: little tired? Yeah, yeah, um, but other than that, I'm 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: doing pretty good. Man. There's a lot of stuff going 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: on to day with this topic. Yes, marriage, Chuck, you know, 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: I am married, you're married. We're married, but not to 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: one another. Uh, that's true. And in the state that 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: we live, and we couldn't even if we wanted to. Yeah, 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: and this this is probably gonna touch on same sex marriage, um, 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: a decent amount because it's in the news, and hey, 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: it's marriage too, right, so we're not going to ignore it. 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily just about that. It's about just 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: marriage as a whole. Right. Everybody call this one how 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: same sex marriage works? Yeah, exactly, But now maybe we 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: cannot do that one if we cover it in this one. 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, how same sex marriage works. Yeah. 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to cover it enough in 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: this it's pretty straightforward stuff. Um. Well, let's talk about marriage, 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: all right, Okay, Um, Really, if you boil the whole 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: thing down, it is, as far as the government views it, 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: very very very very very unromantically. It's basically a legal 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: contract between two people, and therefore there are legalities that 26 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: you have to go through, and as a result of 27 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: going through this this legal process, you are endowed with 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: certain legal rights. That's marriage. That really is though, And 29 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: it's like, I draw a distinction. I don't think it's like, oh, 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: it's unromantic to call it that, because that's what it is. 31 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: It's a difference between a marriage in a lifelong relationship 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: with somebody that now that's romantic chuck, Yeah, I mean 33 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: that's where the romance is. The marriage is just some 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: official way of recognizing that, right Okay. So um, and 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: I would imagine it's not just it's not just the 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: um desire to be, you know, to have your relationship 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: recognized in that same way that it's a lifelong commitment legally, 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: but also to get the benefits as well as one 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: of the those are two probably very big reasons that 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: same sex couples want to be legally married or allowed 41 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: to legally married. Um. So, since it's a legal process, chuckers. Um, 42 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: all things start with an application. All legals processes start 43 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: by filling out an application. And marriage is no different. Yep, 44 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: you gotta get that license. You got to apply to 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: get that license. And uh here and uh, Emily and 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I went to Decatur. It was the sign on the 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: wall was marriage and gun licenses. We thought was kind 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: of funny. Yeah, get both in the same one stop shopping. 49 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: Uh Uh. But each state has its own uh laws 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: regarding everything concerning marriage, especially the world not especially, but 51 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: the first of which is the license and application process. 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: How old you got to be? All that stuff varies 53 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: from state to state, it does. And um, until very recently, Uh, 54 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Alabama allowed kids as young as fourteen. I believe they 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: were the youngest state. It says in this article that 56 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: there was kids as young as age twelve. I think, 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: is that right? I think so. But that I think 58 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: that was like only with like a court order or 59 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: a court permission, like like a pregnancy or something. I 60 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: don't know, well that that's that's one of the surprising 61 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: things is in Georgia, UM, if you're under eighteen, uh, 62 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: you have to present a birth certificate. And I think 63 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: your parents have to be present, both of them unless 64 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: the unless the bride to be is pregnant, and then 65 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: all rules go out the window. Yeah, most states that 66 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: allow it under eighteen. The parents have to sign off, right, 67 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: and there has to be like some reason. But like 68 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: we said, it varies from state to state and it 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: would take two hours to go over all that. So 70 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: if you're interested in getting hitched in your seventeen, look 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: it up on your state's website. You don't want to 72 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: go over to state by state. Do you remember the 73 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: the dude from UM Lost and then he was in 74 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: one episode of X Files. I can't remember his name. 75 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: Which guy from Lost? I don't remember. I didn't watch Lost. 76 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: I just know he was on Lost and he married. 77 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: He's like pushing fifty forty something and he married a 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: sixteen year old girl. Uh yeah, and they were gonna 79 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: they were sending themselves up. I believe to have UM 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: a reality show or whatever. But her parents signed off 81 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: on it. I remember like that. There was a big 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: it was a big news story. Remember that too. They 83 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: moved to Nevada, or they went to Nevada to get married, 84 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: which is not um uncommon. I understand to move to 85 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: a different state. No, to go to to go to 86 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: Las Vegas to get married. Sure, yeah, people do that. 87 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: So no matter where you are, you fill out this application, 88 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: you pay a nominal fee. Uh, and then after your ceremony, 89 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: you get a certificate that says you're married. Here's proof, 90 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: show it to whoever you like. Yeah. Sometimes you need 91 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: a blood test. We did not need one here in Georgia. 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: But that's what you always kind of hear, the old 93 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: fashioned thing, like go down and get your blood test 94 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: and get married. Yes, but make sure you are disease 95 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: free and not cousins. That's right. Is that what it's 96 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: for to to check DNA? No, okay, I don't think 97 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: they have the equipment to do that. I didn't think 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: so either. Uh. And you can get married by a 99 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: varying like a bunch of different ways. Um, you can 100 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: get married by your best friend if you want to, 101 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: as long as they get certified online as able to 102 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: do that, which is what we did with our father 103 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: in law, just to make him part of the experience. 104 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: That's stepfather and my stepfather, the one in Ohio. Yeah, yeah, 105 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: they're all in Ohio. But yeah, so chuckers, now that 106 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: now that you're married. Um, according to federal law, you 107 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: are eligible and open for I think thirty eight federal benefits. 108 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: Is that still correct? Yes? Is that part of doma? Um, 109 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's a specific part of doma, 110 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: but it's it's probably a part of many different laws, 111 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, if there's a plus, but it's it's all. 112 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: This is all specifically federal level. Yeah. Yeah. So for example, 113 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about DOMA in a minute. Yeah, I 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: believe we should so. Um. For example, if if Emily 115 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: is in the hospital, you have a legal right to 116 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: go visit her. That's right. I can even make medical 117 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: decisions on her behalf, that's right, unless she has a 118 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: living well right, which we would do together anyway. Um. 119 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: You can get benefits if you're a federal employee. Um. 120 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: You can get inheritance rights, property rights sometimes even if 121 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: there's no will. Yes, you me can take out a 122 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: life and ensures policy on me and it's legal. Yeah. 123 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: Tax benefits of course of being married, you can file 124 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: that way. Um. You can receive Medicare, Social Security, Disability, 125 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: veterans benefits if you're a spouse, legal spouse. Yes, you 126 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: can immigrate your spouse to the United States, Yeah, more 127 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: easily at least. Yeah, if I killed somebody, Emily could 128 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: visit me in jail, that's right, and then prison right 129 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: as my spouse, and I would imagine depending on the state, 130 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: there would be conjugal rights as well. Yeah, definitely. So 131 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: those are just a handful of the eleven hundred entitlements 132 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: that you gain. You don't want to go over all 133 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: of them. If they have a list, I'll do it. 134 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, there there are a lot of good reasons 135 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: to be married. You can also file jointly, so you 136 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: get a tax break there. Um. And in addition to 137 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: like the legal benefits, there's been tons and tons and 138 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: tons of studies um on marriage that show that, like, 139 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: there's actually psychological physiological benefits to marriage. People people happily married, 140 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: I should say, um, not just married, Like there's a 141 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: key to it. You have to be happily married. They 142 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: tend to live longer live um, they two parents, a 143 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: married parent household, um tends to produce more stable, well 144 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: adjusted kids that do better in school. Yeah. True. Yeah, well, 145 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: I mean there's tons and tons of studies, but it 146 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily relate to same sex or opposite sex it's 147 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: just married parents. Um happened to do that statistically, that's right. 148 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: So what else? Uh, Well, people are getting married later 149 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: and later. I think everyone recognizes that. But um to 150 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: the tune of people born from n to ninety nine 151 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: of men and women were married by and compared that 152 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: to last year, where the average age of marriage was 153 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight point six for men and twenty six point 154 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: six for women. And basically there hasn't been a year 155 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: since the nineteen fifties where the median age has not 156 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: gone up. She's going up and up and up and up. Yeah, 157 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: And you would assume that it would have continued to 158 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: go up and up and up prior to the nineteen fifties. 159 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: But what's really interesting is in eighteen ninety the average 160 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: age that a man got married was twenty six, and 161 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: it declined um down to the nineteen fifties and sixties 162 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: when it reached its lowest level, lowest age, which is like, um, 163 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: like twenty two or something like that, and and then 164 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: it started to go back up, which is very odd, 165 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: and it did it for men and women because you 166 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: would think in you know, olden times, you get married 167 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: at age twelve, you know, so people were getting married 168 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: at maybe sixteen for a median age, but it was 169 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: more than it was older than than people were in 170 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: the fifties when they were getting married. So the fifty 171 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: might might have just signified some marital boom. Maybe. I 172 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: guess people decided that, Um, they were not interested in 173 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: pre marital sex. They just decided that. Um have we 174 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: covered polygy? We did a full podcast on podcast even 175 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: need to mention that. That's what I thought when I 176 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: was reading this, I was like, wait a minute, this 177 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: this reeks of something familiar. Um, but that is a 178 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: type of marriage. Um, And I guess go listen to 179 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: that podcast on Did we call it plural marriage or polygamy? 180 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure we talked about it as plural marriage, but 181 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: we called it how polygamy works, right, And I guess 182 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: the very condensed form of this is that it is 183 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: officially condemned by the Mormon Church these days, although an 184 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: estimated thirty to sixty thousand polygamus still uh well, I 185 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: guess still practice polygamy. Uh. So there are other types 186 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: of unions these days. Um. There are are civil unions, 187 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: domestic partnerships in regular old fashioned marriage, and a civil 188 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: union entitles same sex couples the same legal rights as 189 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: marriage and benefits. So that's you know, like you said, 190 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: after two things, the benefits and just the common recognition 191 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: among their peers, like I'm just like you and I'm 192 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: married just like you. Or in this case of civil union, 193 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: UM would only give you the rights and not the 194 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: badge of marriage. Right. And there's nine states where you 195 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: were civil unions are permitted for same sex couples. That's right, UM, California, 196 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: New York City, Maine, and the District of Columbia, I 197 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: believe allowed domestic partnerships for same sex couples. That's right. 198 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: And actually, UM, one of the one of the big 199 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: um same sex marriage cases that's before the Supreme Court 200 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: right now is a little old lady who UM lived 201 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: with her partner for decades and because she has a 202 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: domestic partnership under New York lause, she didn't not to 203 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: pay any tax, she didn't have to pay any inheritance tax. 204 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: But she got slapped with like a three hundred and 205 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: nine dollar federal inheritance tax because the Feds don't recognize 206 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: their domestic partnership. And that was that's one of the 207 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: cases of Supreme courts hearing right now, Well, you can 208 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: get full on same sex married as of December of 209 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, New York, 210 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Maine, Maryland, Washington State, and the District of Columbia, 211 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: and that is full same sex marriage like outright. And 212 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: at the same time, thirty eight states have laws banning 213 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: outright same sex marriage. So people are really drawing the 214 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: line on this issue in this country. Yeah, well it's 215 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: pretty polarizing issue to say the least. Like I have 216 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: one stat things are changing of people in a same 217 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: sex marriage and then last year, so that drop in 218 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: fourteen years. You know. In researching this article, I've really um, 219 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: I really it's yeah, I've really found out that we 220 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: were a radically different country than we are today. Like 221 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: socially speaking, we are really really different. There was a 222 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, a lot of laws that passed and 223 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: a lot of mentalities that were like supported legislatively that 224 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: just don't make any sense today to a lot more people, 225 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, like doma sure the idea that that passed, 226 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: and like this kind of the meanness behind it is 227 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: is it's just well, I guess it's being picked apart 228 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: right now, right, Yeah, The Defensive Marriage Act um define 229 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: marriage as only a legal union between one man and 230 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: one woman as husband and wife. And uh. Bill Clinton 231 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: famously signed that and has been sort of changing his 232 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: story like every four or five years since then on 233 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: why he signed it, because people kind of pick home 234 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: and out, like Billy Dude of all presidents, why did 235 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: you sign it? Um? In ninety six he said a quote, 236 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I have a long I have long opposed governmental recognition 237 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: of same gender marriages, and this legislation is consistent consistent 238 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: with that position. And then in two thousand eight he said, 239 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: all it said was that Idaho did not have to 240 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: recognize a marriage sanctified in Massachusetts. That's pretty good, Quinton. 241 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: So he basically was like, hey, listen, man, all I'm 242 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: saying was it was left up to the states, which 243 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: was a bit of a reversal. And then in two 244 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: thousand nine he said, well, you know the reason I 245 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: signed it was I thought the question of whether gay 246 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: should mary should be left up to states and too 247 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: religious organizations, and that if any church or other religious 248 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: body wanted to recognize gay marriage, they ought to. So 249 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: this is a bit of a he's saying it's being 250 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: spun as him coming out as like anti gay uncertain levels, 251 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: and he's saying, no, no, no, you're rewriting history in 252 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: a different way. What it really meant was let's just 253 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: federally say this and let the states decide. But that's 254 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: a pretty glim interpretation of DOMA. From what I understand, 255 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: it basically removes states rights. And that's one of the 256 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: things that the Supreme courts looking at now too, is DOMA. 257 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: Is DOMA unconstitutional? And one of the ways that the 258 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: the pro same sex marriage lobby could actually harm itself 259 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: is if the Supreme Court decides to look at DOMA 260 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: as the state's rights issues and kicks it back to 261 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: the states, then all of these bands will be upheld 262 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: rather than just saying no, it's it's unconstitutional because it 263 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: bans marriage effectively between same sex people. So that's I mean, 264 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: it's not as it is the state's rights issue in 265 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: a way, but not in the way that Clinton is 266 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: saying it. It doesn't allow states to kind of make 267 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: up their own mind. Uh. I think Clinton is trying to. 268 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he's super proud of it now, and 269 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: I think he's sort of been backtracking ever since and 270 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: on reasons why he supported it at the time. And 271 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: you know a lot of Congress people have come out 272 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: since then and reverse their their statements on it, saying, 273 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, I've evolved in my thinking to this point, 274 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: and I now think we should look into it more 275 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: at least and not necessarily like fully in support of it. Um. 276 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: But there are eleven countries if you're wondering what's like 277 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: around the world, like all across the country you can 278 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: get married if you're same sex, like Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, 279 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: South Africa, Sweden, and Spain. It is a federal Uh, 280 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: it's legally allowed federally. So let's you know, say what 281 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: you will about that. We want to get married, go 282 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: to Spain. Um, moved to Spain. You don't have to 283 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: like go live there because if the United States whouldn't 284 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: recognized or Netherlands, that's an explice. South Africa, we've talked 285 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: about that. Um. Yeah, But I mean I think most 286 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: people who want to get married who are of the 287 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: same sex want to stay at home. She just want 288 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: to get married at home, you know. Um, this is uh, 289 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: and you're talking about a UM, I guess, being allowed 290 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: to be married in an entire country. There's been a 291 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: couple of attempts to ban UM same sex marriage as 292 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: an entire country in the US, but have been unsuccessful, 293 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: like make it a constitutional amendment. Yeah, and that has 294 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: not happened now. So in addition to domestic partnerships and 295 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: civil unions, that's when I find interesting the reciprocal beneficiary 296 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: relationship UM, which was Hawaiian state law and I guess 297 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: it was kind of done away with in favor of 298 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: civil unions in two thousand eleven or twelve. But basically 299 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: it's it's it grants you the right of a married couple, 300 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: but it doesn't necessarily mean you're a couple in the 301 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: eyes of the law, unless you say we're a couple 302 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: it UM. It so like brother and sister can can 303 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: be a reciprocal beneficiaries UM and aunt and her nephew 304 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. It doesn't mean you're a couple. It means 305 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: that like you can make legal decisions for one another, 306 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: and it's for people who are like dependent on on 307 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: one another living situations, that kind of thing. So don't 308 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: be super creeped out by that when you and sister 309 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Uh, do you got anything else 310 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: on same sex marriage? Oh? Um, no, I guess that's it. 311 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see what happens. It's the civil 312 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: rights issue of our age, and that's what a lot 313 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: of people are arguing, Like, dude, let's just learn from history. 314 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: Do we have to go through the same steps every 315 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: time we do this? Um with allowing people rights, finally 316 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: giving them the rights that you know everyone will in 317 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: the future eventually agree they should have and should have 318 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: had all along. Um. But apparently we have to go 319 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: through at the same struggle every time for each group 320 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: before they get their rights, their civil rights that are 321 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: afforded everybody, whether it's the African Americans sitting where they 322 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: want on a bus or women voting. Um. Yeah, it 323 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: seems like this pops up every now and then in 324 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: this country, where people say, hey, wait a minute, I 325 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: don't have the same rights as that dude over there, right, 326 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: and why not? It's very interesting, it is, and I'm 327 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: sure like we're going to get a lot of listener 328 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: mail about this. Yeah. Well, you know, we're just putting 329 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: it out there. This is what certain people think and 330 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: that's what other people think. Yeah, I guess, And luckily 331 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: we live in a country where you can voice those opinions. 332 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: So before we move on to other parts of marriage, 333 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: let's take a quick little message break. Let's do it, 334 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: and now we're back with more marriage. Yeah wow. Um 335 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: So Chuck one of the ones that I've always heard 336 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: of his common law marriage, and I was doing a 337 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: little research on it, and it doesn't make much sense 338 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: to me. I don't understand, like, apparently its origins where 339 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: that's what marriage was like two people just kind of 340 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: shacked up and they were viewed by society and the 341 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: law as married. And then the the church insinuated itself 342 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: by saying, no, there's no more clan to stying marriages anymore. 343 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: You have to do this publicly and declare, you know 344 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: that you want to be married, and there's got to 345 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: be a priest and let's you know, maybe maybe you know, 346 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: somebody's gotta be there, so let's have a witness or whatever. 347 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: And that that's kind of like the rival of common 348 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: law marriage. And and as it's become more and more 349 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: um prevalent, common law marriage is kind of fallen into 350 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: the waistide. Well don't you just have to shack up 351 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: for seven years? No, that is a myth, yea, everyone 352 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: always says, I always heard that, Yeah, and I think 353 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: that's just a common misconception. Um. If you want to 354 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: be uh common law married, you actually have to present 355 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: as a married couple. You have to change your last name, 356 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: file joint tax returns, basically kind of really live as 357 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: if you're married, not just live together and fight over 358 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: where to go to dinner. Right, you know, it probably 359 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't hurt to contact your local probate court and file 360 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: something like saying, hey, we're married. Okay, as far as 361 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: you're concerned, we're married. We're common law marriage. Now, this 362 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: only works if your state recognizes common law marriages, and again, 363 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: fewer and fewer states do these days. Um. In some states, 364 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: if your common law marriage was around before the nineties, 365 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: certain dates in the nineties, it would be grandfather then 366 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Georgia being one of them. Right, Yeah, if you were 367 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: common law married in Georgia before January one, you're still 368 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: common law married if you still are nice and the 369 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: states also don't. Um. We we joked about the seven 370 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: year thing, but there is no set time in any 371 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: state that you have to live together to present yourself 372 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: as common law man and wife, although I don't you know, 373 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: I don't know that you would do that after you 374 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: just moved in together. But hey you can if you want. Well, 375 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: you know, um talking about moving in together, there was 376 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: a study that recently found that more and more people 377 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: are living together before marriage um or instead of marriage. 378 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: And also apparently one of the reasons we were talking 379 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: about the marriage age increasing, one of the reasons they 380 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: think that people are putting it off more and more lately, 381 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: especially millennials, is due to college debt. How sad is that? Okay, 382 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: So I'm broke, so I'm not gonna get married, like 383 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: I can't afford to get married right now. That's that's terrible. 384 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't say what does it cost you though, I 385 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: don't get that. Well, I mean, you've got to get 386 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: a ring, and there's got a I mean, there's just 387 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: certain things to it. I guess that certain costs. Yeah, 388 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on what you're looking for out 389 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: of your wedding, in your rings and things like. It 390 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be expensive, you know than half to 391 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: just these college kids these days, I don't know, have 392 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: no money to get married. Give them some advice to 393 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: just get married, don't get a cheap ring and get 394 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: hitched at the courthouse. So okay, so um. As far 395 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: as shacking up goes, more and more people are doing it. Apparently, 396 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: between two thousand and six and two thousand and ten, 397 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: almost half of UM, straight women ages fifteen forty four 398 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 1: said that they have lived together with somebody who they 399 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: weren't married to. And of gay women, Yeah, I have 400 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: another stat here that said from nineteen eighty two, Uh, 401 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: it is quadriple the number of people, and this is people. 402 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: Percentage of women choosing to not get married and just 403 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: cohabitate has gone from three to eleven percent. And um, 404 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: what does this all mean to staying married? We're staying 405 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: together not a lot. The divorce rate has hovered pretty 406 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: close to for quite a while. He goes up a little, 407 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: goes down a little, but um hasn't gone down some. 408 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: It's gone down a little bit, but it's never like 409 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: some enough of a stat to like, you know, rewrite 410 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: the record books. You know, it's always close to fifty. 411 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: It seems like. Um, And then they found all sorts 412 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: of interesting things. Um, among women, there was a fifty 413 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: two percent chance that a first marriage would survive for 414 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: twenty years, and fifty percent of men their first marriage 415 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: would survive for twenty years. Oh and another interesting thing. 416 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: They found that, um, your marriage is more likely last 417 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: if you went and graduated college. Huh So seventy eight 418 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: percent of women with at least a bachelor's degree made 419 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: it to their twentieth anniversary as opposed to what was that? 420 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: So that's a pretty big yeah. I wonder what the 421 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: the explanation is for that. Uh, I don't know. Maybe 422 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: it takes a certain amount of tenacity to through college, 423 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: and maybe it takes a certain amount of tenacity to 424 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: stay married. If you have kids going into the marriage 425 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: with someone else, Um, you have less of a chance 426 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: to stay married. Thirty um of women marrying a man 427 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: who already had kids made it twenty years. So, but 428 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: if you have kids after you get married, you have 429 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: a higher likelihood of staying together. Yeah. So having your 430 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: own kids good, marrying in two kids bad. Yeah, but 431 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: then's having your own kids is one of the um, 432 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: one of the leading reasons that people stay together. Um. 433 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: Apparently there's also couples who drink together um tend to 434 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: stay together more especially um if they drink about the 435 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: same amount. Make sense. UM. Couples who have I ran 436 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: across this two thousand eight study UM from the University 437 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: of Denver. Couples who have fun, which fun is defined 438 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: is basically spending time together UM free of financial, family 439 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: or other stresses. Okay, UM, they tend to stay together longer, 440 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: which makes a lot of sense. Basically, if you go 441 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: on dates with your spouse, you will stay together longer. 442 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: And religion also plays a part. Percentage of married women 443 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: you say religion is important six and a percentage of 444 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: married women who say religion is not importants And interestingly, 445 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: it's about ten percent less for men on both uh 446 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: saying religions important religions not. Women just care more than 447 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: the number. One UM. I guess indicator that people will 448 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: stay together, not necessarily in marriage, but that like as 449 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: a couple UM is shared curiosity. Remember we did how 450 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: curiosity works years back. One of the one of the 451 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: indicators that our predictors sorry that a couple would stay 452 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: together was that if both of them were curious people 453 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: about the same things or this period just in general. UM. 454 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: And and it's like beat out religion, UM. All these 455 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: other shared things that you would think that would you know, 456 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: keep two people together, you know, make them attracted to 457 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: one another. But it was shared curiosity, a love of 458 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: just being curious, as long as it's not curious about 459 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: like I wonder what it be like to have sex 460 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: with that woman? Precisely, it's bad curiosity, right, Yeah. So 461 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: since you brought that up, Um, you sent another article 462 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: on how stuff works. That was pretty interesting that Molly 463 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: Edmonds wrote about the seven year itch. Did you check 464 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: that out? So basically the seven year which is this 465 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: idea that after seven years people get bored with their 466 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: marriage and they divorced or the stray or whatever, um. 467 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: And there have been studies that have found that seven 468 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: years is actually like a a significant moment in the 469 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: average marriage, and that a lot of them do end 470 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: up dissolving at this point. Right. Yeah. I think the 471 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: median age in the US is seven just over seven years, 472 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: so that would suggest that this old yarn is correct. 473 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: But it's actually possible that it's even less than seven years. 474 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: That it's that there's an indicator that um, at four years, uh, 475 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: marriages start to go I guess south. Um. And there's 476 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: an anthropologist an evolutionary anthropologist named Helen Fisher who had 477 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: a pretty good idea of a pretty cool explanation or 478 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: yeah I thought it made sense, go ahead, level it. Okay, Well, 479 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: she said that basically, back in our earlier evolutionary age, 480 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: took took took took um took took's era. Uh, four 481 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: years was about the time that a couple would spend 482 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: together conceiving and raising a child, and then it was 483 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: time to do it again, and they typically did it 484 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: with other people right spread the seed. So that so 485 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: Fisher's basically pressing the point that we are evolutionarily hardwired 486 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: to um to not last in a monogamous relationship owner 487 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: in four years, which is a pretty depressing idea, especially 488 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: if it makes sense um. But she also points out 489 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: that there that being aware of this or understanding this 490 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: possibility can let you guard against it. Oh yeah, that 491 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: makes sense. Like keep your marriage exciting, have fun with 492 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: your spouse, go on dates with your spouse, you know, 493 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: and you can you know, beat that for year, seven 494 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: year itch or whatever. Just don't like research that stuff. 495 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: Come up with your own stuff, is what I say. 496 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: What research like? There's gazillions of articles like how to 497 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: keep your marriage spicy. And it's just I encourage you 498 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: not to read those If you want to spice super marriage, 499 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: just try some things on your own. Don't read Red Book. 500 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: I I don't know. Man. If Red Book helps and 501 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: read Book helps, it's our mata, al right, So you know, 502 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: go ahead read those articles and they'll tell you to 503 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: You know what did they say. Oh they all say 504 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: things like it's all like sex based usually Uh, actually 505 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: that's not true. They're talking about Cosmopolitan, not Red Bus. 506 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: Be more active with your husband and get him out 507 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: hiking and then dress up as a French maid every 508 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: once in a while. It's just like, I don't know. 509 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if those articles help you, then it's all 510 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: well and good. I take it back. Um, well, you 511 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: were saying like that what to do, like go out 512 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: on a hike or something like that. This This study 513 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: from two thousand and eight from the University of Denver 514 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: pointed out that, um, when you go out on a date, 515 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: you should be aware that your spouse may not have 516 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: the same idea of what a date is that you 517 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: do depending on your sex. Like for women, haven't going 518 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: on a date is like a chance to have an 519 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: intimate conversation just basically friend time, close time, whereas like 520 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: the dude is more prone to think a date is 521 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: like going to a movie or going to a baseball 522 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: game or something like that that you do together and 523 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: you're on a date and you're sitting next to another 524 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: and like you lean over and kiss and everything, but 525 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: you're both watching the game. You just watch the game, right, 526 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, so you you I guess again, an awareness 527 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: of that will probably get around any weird situations where 528 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: you're just like, we went on a date, how are 529 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: you not happy? Yeah? This good point. I found that 530 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: sporting events I get kind of chatty though, Well, you 531 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: would be a perfect date, you know, Yeah, Emily, you'll 532 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: go to baseball games. But like literally the only time 533 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: it took her to a Falcons game, she brought magazines. 534 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: That's funny. People around me were like, so pissed. That's 535 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: a waste a ticket. You means like a perfect woman 536 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: in that, Like we'll go into shows or something like that. 537 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: She doesn't like, she's not chatty during shows, especially like 538 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: a concert. Yeah, like you know when you're at a 539 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: concert and it's like they're playing the music and just 540 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: see him, then somebody just wants to talk to you 541 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: the whole time. Yeah, maybe it's not like that. It's 542 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. Yeah, I'm always right next to that person. Whoever, 543 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: the most obnoxious person in any crowd is. I will 544 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: be no more than five ft away from there. I 545 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: feel like I am. But I've tried to installed the 546 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: new policy in my life. I used to just get upset, 547 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: and because I'm non confrontational with strangers, I would just 548 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: sit there in my blood would boil. Whereas there's three 549 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: ways you can go about it. You can do that. 550 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: You can confront the person, say hey, would you mind 551 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: keeping it down? I would never do that. But the 552 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: third option I've discovered here in my forties just move. Yeah, 553 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: unless you're like in a reserve seat, I just go 554 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: stand somewhere else. It's just not worth it for me. Yeah, 555 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: that's a good chuck. Yeah, And I found that that 556 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm all of a sudden not obsessing over this loud 557 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: person next to me while Steve Mountainous is telling a 558 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: nice story on stage. Uh. And I just avoid the 559 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: drunkest people in the room. That's good. It's always a 560 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: good motto. Yeah, Uh, what else you got? I got 561 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: nothing else? Cool? We did. We did how marriage works? 562 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: Marriage good? Agreed? Yeah. Uh. If you want to learn 563 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: more about marriage, there's like a whole channel on most 564 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: there a sub channel or something on the site. I 565 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: believe if you want to learn more about marriage, get married, 566 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: because if you're gonna learn everything you need. Yeah, it's 567 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: like immersion learning through immersion. Um. You can also type 568 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: the word marriage into the search bar at how stuff 569 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: works dot com if you and your partner are curious 570 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: types um, and that would be probably a predictor of 571 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: your long term success. Um. And I think I said 572 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: predictor in there. So it's time for listener mail. Not quite, 573 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: it's time for a message break, okay, okay, And now 574 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: it's time for listener mail. Huh No, no, Josh, not 575 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: listen to mail. Oh we're going to continue, I believe 576 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: part two of what will be three of Okay, Well, 577 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to kick it off. Are you ready please? 578 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: I want to give a big shout out to our 579 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: buddy Ryan Flanders over at Mad Magazine for sending us 580 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: a ton of great stuff magazines, hats, pins, pins, masks, buttons, 581 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: masks and beyond. Like the coolness of that. It's just 582 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: the fact that because of our careers, we've been able 583 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: to talk to people at Mad Magazine and Uncle John's 584 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: Reader and Archie Comics, and like they listen to the show. 585 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: It's just like that just totally knocks us out. We 586 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: grew up on Mad and continue to read it today. Yeah, 587 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: all right, what you gotta know? Just okay. We got 588 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: a very delightful letter from a boy named Ethan L. 589 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: From Windermere, Florida, with the request for an episode on 590 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: Minecraft and the hopes that it will change his mom's 591 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: opinion about him playing it. I don't know if we're 592 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: gonna do that, but thank you for the letter. U 593 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: Physique Body of Tea in Boulder, Colorado sent us. Uh T. Yeah, 594 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: it's delicious. It's weight lost tea. That's nice. Yeah, I 595 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: thought you've been looking more spelled than usually. Well you know. Uh, 596 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: we got a c D and vinyl of the album 597 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: We Build a Fortress on short notice by the band's 598 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: self evidence. It's awesome. Thank you very much, guys. Uh yeah. 599 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: And on the music tip um, the La La band 600 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: sent us their CD Moonshine Still and the Deathbillies Yeah, 601 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: they sent us a packet. They do metal mashups of 602 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: jukebox country classics. It's pretty cool. I didn't listen yet. 603 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: They're pretty cool that they gave us cool buttons to Okay, 604 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: so thank you definitelys um. We got a nice letter 605 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: written in cursive from Larry Nina's Ninus. That's what he 606 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: even spelled out how to say at Ninus. He lives 607 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: in Lagrange, Georgia, and he was prompted by our episode 608 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: on memory and possibly synaesthesia. He had some good theories. Uh. 609 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: Katie Center sent us a nice handwrite letter, and she's 610 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: doing something really cool called the Letter Project, where and 611 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: she sends a letter to someone who inspires her and asked, 612 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: what are you pursuing in your life? And how do 613 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: you know when you've gotten there? And she sent us 614 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: that letter, and Katie, the answer is, we're pursuing podcasting 615 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: excellence and we uh, we were never gonna arrest like 616 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: we we've not gotten there because there's still many more 617 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: things to explore or and the beat goes on here 618 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. You should know. It's the curse and the 619 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: gift of perfectionism. That's right. Let's see, we got a 620 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: wedding invitation from Savannah and Jonathan mazel tov H. Sarah 621 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: Yakawanas sent us some cool graphic posters. I found those. 622 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: We did get those, yeah. Um. And she has an 623 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: Etsy shop at Takawana's Quilling dot etsy dot com and 624 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: that it's t A K A w O n I 625 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: s quilling dot etsy dot com. And they're really neat. 626 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: I like graphic posters. I like how you say here. 627 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: Last thing too. Um. We got a postcard from the 628 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: Trinity Nuclear testing site in New Mexico from our friend 629 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: Billy ray Cyrus, and another associated one from Van Nostrin. 630 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: Really yeah, send us a couple of postcards, so thank you, buddy. Um. 631 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: And we got a book from Thomas Trask. He sent 632 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: his book Prism Colin Shadow of the Fates. Nice weet, 633 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: a lot of Colin's in our book titles here. That's 634 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: the thing I guess is if you have a lot 635 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: to say, I guess so you throw the colon in there. 636 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: So thank you, thanks to Thomas Traps for that. We've 637 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: got an anonymous note suggesting we do something on lactose intolerance. 638 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 1: Thank you anonymous right uh. Postcard from Antarctica from Liz 639 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: and Dan from San Francisco who went there on their honeymoon. 640 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: Congratulations nice. Um. We got some postcards from Christina Bennett 641 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: Australia road signs, operation and Enduring Freedom Afghanistan postcards, some 642 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: odd postcards. Thank you? Cool you anymore? Uh? Do a 643 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: few more? I don't out? Okay? Um. We got some 644 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: picture links and a nice letter from Adam Purves. He's 645 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: the chief happiness officer of happiness plunge dot com and 646 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: go check it out. Do you remember when we talked 647 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: about gross national happiness, we asked about people who dropped 648 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: out to like just go pursue their own happiness. That 649 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: the happiness Plunge. Yeah, happiness plunge dot com. We got 650 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: downloads of Jazz Animals, Independence, Louisiana by Burke and Graffia. 651 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: You can check those out. Nice those tracks. Um. We 652 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: got a Georgia Tech the Club T shirt from J T. 653 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: Getter remember him? Yeah? That was very nice. And we're 654 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: just kidding about food and Georgia Tech. Kind of kidding. 655 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: And I'm going to do one more and then we'll 656 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: save the rest of the next time. We got a 657 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 1: letter suggesting meditation as a topic from Rob Hollerbach. Holler 658 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: Back I used to meditate. Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to 659 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: get back into it. It was nice, okay, Jerry landed 660 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: that for some reason it was nice. Uh. Well that's it. 661 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: That's for that's administrative details. Yeah. Part two or three 662 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: we'll finish up and then um yeah, I'll split these 663 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: up between us next great. 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