1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: First Date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Mark is on the phone today for her first date 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Sasha. 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call her and Suso 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: sells why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another day. 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: But first, Mark, how long has it been since you 8 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: heard from Sasha. 9 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 3: It's been about a couple of weeks, now, Okay. 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Have you been reaching out to her during that time? 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've called a couple of times, I've 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: texted and been no reply. And that's why I'm calling you, guys, 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: is I and see if we can figure out what's 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 3: going on. 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Well, why don't you tell us about how you met 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: her and then the date and stuff. 17 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. So we met on Hinge and I just immediately 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: found her to be so beautiful and classy. I mean 19 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: one of her photos she was even wearing pearls and 20 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: I thought that was those. We started chatting and she 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: told me how she always wanted to go to Paris, 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: so I thought for a date, we could go to 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: this Parisian cafe and get coffee and croissants, which I 24 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: thought was perfect. 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Did you wear a beret? 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: No? 27 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely why. I'm just kidding. That's a cute idea, though, Yeah, thoughtful. 28 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: I thought so too. I thought so too. So we, 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: you know, we had our croissants and our coffee and 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: we're talking and laughing, and you know, she shared so 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: much of her life stories with me. I just felt 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: like she really wanted me to know her, which you know, 33 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: was just so sweet. And we were supposed to go 34 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: on a bike ride, but then her roommate reached out 35 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: that she needed to be taken care of. So I 36 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: was okay with that because I love that she's good 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: to her friends. But after that, I never really heard 38 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: from her again. 39 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: So what did she say to you, or like, what 40 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: was the interaction like after her roommate called, or like 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: as you guys were going your separate ways. 42 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we were supposed to go on this 43 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: bike ride and she kind of had to dodge out, 44 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: so I gave her a hug, and you know, we 45 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: she's had she had a great time, and that was 46 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: basically it. I said, you know, i'll call you later. 47 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: And when I called, I got no answer. I texted 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: a couple of times of the course of the last 49 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: few days and no response. 50 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: Is hekay, I hope so not the freak job. 51 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: But you don't think it was one of those things 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: where someone says, hey, I'll text you on the sly 53 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: and then you call me and then I'll say I 54 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: have to go if you're on a day you don't like. 55 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Do you think that could have been a thing. 56 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think I didn't get that vibe. 57 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: I mean, she was opening up so much to me 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: about like her life and her family and her friends. 59 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: It just felt like she was she was having a 60 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: really great time. I mean, the only thing I can 61 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: think of is like, I mean, there's a bunch of 62 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: people checking me out in the cafe, which you know, 63 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: sometimes I'm a little awkward, but I do kind of 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: look like over life Superman at times, so I was 65 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: getting a lot of. 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to Okay, you look like a 67 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: real life Superman. What is that like? Are you like ripped? 68 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: I got this cart can kind of swirl to my 69 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: hair and okay, I've been compared a lot to it, 70 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: but my eyes were on her. I don't know I 71 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: don't know if that was anything that she was nervous about, 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't think anything was wrong with the find. 73 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: I just genuinely thought she had to go help her. 74 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: Did you tell her that you look like Superman at 75 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: any point, because that also could. 76 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: Have been Yeah, No, no, I did not. 77 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Lucky you. 78 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: You're on a date with Superman, I know, all right, 79 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: and you didn't get kiss or anything right at the 80 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: end of the day. 81 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: No, I was gonna, you know, I was gonna try 82 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: and go for it, but there's a bunch of people 83 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: outside the shop of the Parisian coffee shop, and I 84 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: just felt like warm hug was the right move. 85 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: Okkay, all right, Well we'll figure it out where you 86 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: will play a song, come back, and then call her 87 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you 88 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: and maybe get you another date. 89 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, I appreciate it. 90 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: Place, don't come back to your first day follow up 91 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: next if you're just joining us for today's first date 92 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: follow up. Mark is on the phone and he's getting 93 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: ghosted by Sasha. So we're about to call her and 94 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and 95 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: maybe get him another date. But before we do that, Mark, 96 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: why don't you catch us up on your situation. 97 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I met this beautiful girl named Sasha. We 98 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: went on Hinge, went on this great date to Persian Cafe, 99 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: had a great time, And now I haven't heard from her, 100 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: and I want to know why. 101 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: Well, and you do think it's because you look like 102 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Superman maybe and you were getting checked out a lot. 103 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: I'm just worried. I'm just worried that she was aware 104 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 3: of that people were looking at me. That's all right. 105 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if that that can be kind of 106 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: bobery a reason. 107 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 4: Like if you were somebody that's super hot that everybody's 108 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: staring at you do feel like touching me? 109 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: You know? 110 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: I get that. Well, ready for us to call her? Yeah, yes, Slee, 111 00:04:51,640 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: here we go. Hello him, I speaking to Sasha. Please 112 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: this Sasha. 113 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: Hi, how are you? My name is Jebel. I'm calling 114 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: from a radio show. It's called the Jubil Show. 115 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 5: Hi. 116 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm Nina. Also on the show. Hi, I'm Victoria. 117 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: Oh Hi. 118 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: Do you listen to the show ever? Sometimes? 119 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 120 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 5: You guys agreed, this is so crazy. 121 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: You know why we're calling you. 122 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 5: I have a suspicion, and I'm going it's about it. 123 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: That's suspicion being true. 124 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: What do you think it is? What's your suspicion? 125 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: Is it the second date? 126 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: Follow the first date? Follow up? 127 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: Yes, you are ghosting somebody? 128 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: Do you know who knows? 129 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: I have a sneaking suspicion. 130 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: That it's Mark? And you're correct. She hasn't answered. 131 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: All. 132 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, because I don't really ghost that often, but 133 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 5: this was a unique experience. 134 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: Really, Okay, would you mind telling us why you're ghossing him? 135 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 5: He was just so gross I'm sorry. 136 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: That was like the playton the most easiest way to 137 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: say it. He just he was burping the. 138 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 5: Throughout the entire date, and like the first time was 139 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 5: just kind of because it was loud and he didn't 140 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: say excuse me or anything like that, but then it 141 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 5: just kind of just kept happening, and so like I 142 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 5: felt like I had to keep talking so that I 143 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 5: didn't have to engage with him, and it. 144 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: Was it was just. 145 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 5: So uncomfortable, thoroughly grossed out. 146 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: Was it just really loud or was it kind of 147 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: under his breath? I mean, I don't know. 148 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: That's the thing. 149 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 5: I get that burping is natural, but there are ways 150 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 5: that you can kind of minimize the damage, Like you 151 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 5: can kind of put it under your breath, you can 152 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: cover your mouth, you can say excuse me. But like, 153 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 5: since none of that was happening, but the burping and 154 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: itself kept happening over and over, it just felt like 155 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: super disrespectful and just I was so turned off, engrossed out. 156 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: Really I mean that, I mean I wouldn't love that either. 157 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Like in the place you were at, he was just 158 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: burping loudly, yes, constantly. 159 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: It was just it was so frequent and so loud, 160 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 5: like it almost got to the point where, you know, 161 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 5: like a Homer Simpson when he belches, like it. 162 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: Was kind of ripple. Like that's what I felt like. 163 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 5: Maybe it wasn't that bad, but like that's what kind 164 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: of I started to feel like was happening. 165 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Like I was just, oh, I can't even Okay, Well 166 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: you didn't tell us that. 167 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: No, it sounded like a very pleasant day. 168 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you forgot, or maybe you haven't heard enough 169 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: first day follow ups to know that he's actually on 170 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: the phone listening and wants to. 171 00:07:52,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: Mark who Yeah, I saw, so I am sorry, I 172 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: don't I honestly don't know what you're talking about. I mean, 173 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: I worked a couple of times because I've been dealing 174 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: with some like specilated acid reflux. I'm sorry to hear that. 175 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 5: Then why didn't we go to coffee? 176 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: Like? 177 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: That's not going to help the situation any you. 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: Know, well, because I wanted to take you to a 179 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: Parisian cafe. I mean, is the real reason that because 180 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: I look like Superman? 181 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: What? 182 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: Sorry? Sorry, that's not nice. 183 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, No, No, that's not the reason. Yes, you 184 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 5: you are an objectively attractive man. But if you're wondering 185 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 5: about the why people were looking at you, it was 186 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 5: because you were burping so much that people were concerned 187 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 5: that you were going to be sick. 188 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: Are you sure that people weren't just looking at me 189 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: because of how I look? 190 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 4: Oh? 191 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 5: No, I'm sorry. I like it was not attractive. They 192 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: were not looking at you because you were attractive. They 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 5: were looking at you because they were disgusted. I'm so sorry. 194 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: I can't even help but ask like, Mark, are you okay? 195 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: Because to be burping that much, I don't know if 196 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: that's normal. 197 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been on a different medication to try and 198 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: deal with my reflux. It's it's just been a struggle bus. 199 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: But I'm doing much better. Thanks. 200 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 201 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: You know, like Sasha, you say you want to go 202 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: to France, but you really probably shouldn't go to France 203 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: because in other countries it's actually considered polite to burp. 204 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: Is it as a comment of the show. 205 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 5: Even if that's true here in the stage, I like 206 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 5: it when if someone burbs that they at least they 207 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: excuse me or cover their mouths or something along those lines. 208 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm reaching for the stars here, but that is 209 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 5: something that I am looking for. 210 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Blatant respect. 211 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: You guys, excuse me. I usually say excuse me, but 212 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: I just I was you were telling these beautiful stories. 213 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 3: I didn't want to interrupt you. I was time to 214 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 3: respect you. 215 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: Sasha, would you like to go on another date with Mark? 216 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: Will pay for it? 217 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: You know what, I didn't know that she was so 218 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: close minded, So I honestly don't know that this is 219 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: going to work out? 220 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 5: Closed minded? What do you What do you mean? 221 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: I mean, if you can't just be present and accept 222 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: the person for how they are, I mean, burbing happens. 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that, it's just how you handle it 224 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 5: that you know, really changes things and how you handled 225 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 5: it was just not. 226 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: It for me. That's fine. I mean, if somebody going 227 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: to accept me, accept me for my purpse. 228 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: Too, well. 229 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: Sorry no second date mark, but it sounds like you're 230 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: fine with that. 231 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's for the best. 232 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: Juble's first date follow up