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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Bria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett. Coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh the band is back together. Let's do it live

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday edition. Merely Bo great Zee give it

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Speaker 2: boisl isn't at a park among other things.

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Speaker 3: I know off to a right start with the parking

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Speaker 3: split at the undisclosed location.

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Speaker 2: To see it, We see you.

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Speaker 3: It's great to see you. It's great to see you.

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Speaker 3: And I came in and knowing that there was going

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Speaker 3: to be sadness over this parking situation. But I knew

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Speaker 3: that our brotherhood and our reunion would trump triumph over that.

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Speaker 3: And we were past were past it, long past it

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Speaker 4: Except like enhanced it by parking in bow spot well

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Speaker 4: by he was in my spot, he was, and you

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Speaker 4: could have parked in there. That I said, it was

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Speaker 4: just you're going for it.

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Speaker 2: It's fine. Yeah, you knew what you were going. You

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Speaker 2: got what you wanted. You got the reaction for me

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Speaker 2: walking in the undisclosed location is what you wanted.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's the and that's the original issue. Well again

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Speaker 3: he gets all the ire correct correct without a what

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Speaker 3: I b right?

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Speaker 2: What I did do? A beautiful, beautiful, beautiful great to

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Speaker 2: be back.

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Speaker 3: I've been great, had a just a wonderful week with

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Speaker 3: the family, and it's it's it's great to be back.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's a string che time of year because it's nice.

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Speaker 2: There's not anything going on, right, I'm not gonna want

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Speaker 2: to be here.

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Speaker 3: We'd like to be playing golf out on a lake,

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Speaker 3: so I would play yesterday, would do any of that,

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Speaker 3: you'd like to do any of those things? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: you're You're not wrong, You're not wrong. But it was,

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Speaker 3: it really was. It was a great time. Shout out

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Speaker 3: to Jace by the way again at Cedar Point, our

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Speaker 3: guy got us in the park, which was super super cool.

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Speaker 3: And the weather we went last Monday and last.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday seems like a lifetime ago.

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Speaker 3: It. Yeah, the first day on Monday, it was still

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Speaker 3: pretty it was pretty crowded. Yeah, so we had to

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Speaker 3: get Jase give us some some fast passes and we

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Speaker 3: got we got the fast pass for that day so

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Speaker 3: we could use the fast passes for the second day.

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Speaker 3: Without getting it. So the first day we were able

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Speaker 3: to go through everything, skip a bunch of lines. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it was awesome. The second day on Tuesday, it

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Speaker 3: was like sixty two and it rained in the morning,

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Speaker 3: but by the time we got to park at eleven

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Speaker 3: it no rain. Not another dropped The rest of the day.

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Speaker 3: We walked on to everything.

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Speaker 2: Every passes, no fast past just.

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Speaker 3: So we saved the fast We didn't even use them

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Speaker 3: all bryce when El Boots went yesterday and I gave

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Speaker 3: him those to take yesterday for him and some of

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Speaker 3: his friends. We walked onto Steeal Vengeance like literally, we

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Speaker 2: Up and sat right down amazing.

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Speaker 3: Twice in Row, walked onto Gatekeeper, walked on to rep,

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Speaker 3: walked onto everything.

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Speaker 2: So you've done it. You found the perfect day to

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Speaker 2: do it. Sixty degrees, no sunbird, no heat in two days.

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Speaker 2: In two days, I rode val Ravens six times. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god.

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Speaker 3: I rode Steel Vengeance five times. I rode Millennium Force

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Speaker 3: I think three times. I rode Gatekeeper. I think three

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Speaker 3: or four times, raptor three or four times.

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Speaker 2: What's your maverick?

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Speaker 3: Maverick, We rode four or five times. Number one drafic.

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Speaker 3: I had never been on val Raven before.

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Speaker 2: And because the stand up and it stops you.

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Speaker 3: You're not standing, you're like sitting hanging, but yes, and

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Speaker 3: God, So we wrote that. We wrote that literally four

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's the that's what that's the one on

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Speaker 2: of like, you know, honestly, I don't need to do this.

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Speaker 3: Is like you're like at that point you're cooked, You're

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Speaker 3: like right, Maverick, you get shot out like the ones. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'd be like this, this wasn't a good idea, And

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Speaker 3: I just didn't say that every time I says wasn't

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Speaker 2: That to them, then we're going. We're going up.

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Speaker 3: Millennium Force gives you plenty of time to think, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not crazy about it. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Man. Okay, it's stunning. Okay, a couple of things. It

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Speaker 3: Number one, we found an awesome Airbnb in this place

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Speaker 3: Uh big Browns fan, which was about that, which was cool.

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Speaker 3: Wind can shut it down. This is the first time

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Speaker 3: It's great. And we could walk from where we were

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Speaker 3: Tacos was a delight they had They had a filly

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Speaker 3: Just it was incredible. It was a delight. And then

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Speaker 3: as easy as could be. So, why why is this

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Speaker 2: Feels very much quite large.

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Speaker 3: Specific Yeah, you wouldn't know any different looking at it,

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Speaker 3: other than you know, some of the accouterment around. But

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Speaker 3: in a fairly obscure portion of Ohio that's situated directly

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, yeah, so to me, got in.

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Speaker 3: A head scratcher inland away from coastal breezes, whether they

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Speaker 2: Well, the only thing there is you'd have to put

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Speaker 3: But this is out in the open, and this is

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Speaker 3: You by the way, it feels like it doesn't even

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I think you just put it anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Could be in that town in Texas that tin cup

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Speaker 3: It's amazing because to your point, think of all the

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Speaker 3: revenue that is not generated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, portions of the year, Oh, I mean, and they're

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Speaker 2: birds that are hawking and making all this noise and

438
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 2: it's still annoys the membership to this day. So to

439
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 2: be the membership, you have to be a successful business person,

440
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: but in Los Angeles. And then also, of course, like

441
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 2: with most exclusive golf places up until recently, if you

442
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: looked a certain way or from a certain upbringing, you

443
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 2: couldn't belong there either. So there was that part of

444
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 2: it too. So it has all of this checker history.

445
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: Incredibly exclusive in terms of why there were no crowds,

446
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 2: they only sold nine thousand tickets. Okay, so they have

447
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: corporate money that went to all the boxes, and then

448
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 2: they had nine thousand tickets. Their membership tried buying up

449
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 2: all nine thousand tickets. They allowed them to buy forty

450
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: five hundred tickets. So in terms of actual golf fans

451
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 2: at the US Open, there were only about forty five

452
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 2: hundred juxtaposed to Oakmont which will have forty thousand, or

453
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: like Bethpage or even last year at Brookline it was

454
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: like thirty thousand fans a day. So yeah, it was quiet.

455
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 2: It was awkward. The fairways, I mean, everyone's going back

456
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 2: to that. We talked about this at Oakhill for the

457
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 2: PGA Sciota down and Columbus is doing this. Pinehurst is

458
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: probably the first where they're like, hey, we love the

459
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: big tree line stuff, but that's none of these courses

460
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 2: were built. Let's take down thousands of trees and make

461
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: rough and put make the bunkers more punitive and all

462
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: of those things. Like the thing that happened to Rory

463
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: that would never happen at a US Open the plug

464
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: yet because normally that's sand all the way up to

465
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: the lip, and but now they have that like that,

466
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 2: so it went straight in and he had to pull

467
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: it out pretty favorable. He got an incredible Yeah, pretty

468
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 2: favorable ruler. Yeah, so that's why that had that feel.

469
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 2: And I agree with you, like, if we're going to

470
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: play at a place that's been renovated and restored to

471
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: look the way it was supposed to look one hundred

472
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: and twenty years or a hundred year ago and is built, well,

473
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: then you got to tighten up those fairways, brother, because

474
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: you can't have a fifty eight yard wide fairway on

475
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: the eighteenth of the United States.

476
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 3: Open, not the US Open. Tree can't at the the Open.

477
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 2: And enjoy yourself.

478
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not a gre It needed to be that

479
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: drive that he hit. It was a scared swing. Yeah,

480
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 3: for a guy who was money. I mean, he absolutely

481
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: deserved to win. I'm just saying that wasn't a US

482
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: Open fairway, but the US Open is much and and

483
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 3: look the course really stiffened up. I mean you have

484
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: people at eight after day one and it finished it

485
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 3: what he wanted, ten ten, ten.

486
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: One ten. Yeah. He had two sixty two's on DA

487
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: day one. Yeah, it was eight under right, sixty three.

488
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 3: Richard Fowler set the record for most birdies in the

489
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: US Open and didn't win.

490
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: And didn't wasn't really close.

491
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: He duffed the other The last day was rough to watch.

492
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 3: I thought, I thought, actually the whole tournament. I turned

493
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: to Taylor when uh, when Wyndham got up and down

494
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: after taking an unplayable on seventeen, and then birdied eighteen

495
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 3: and then Fowler three putted eighteen, I was like, Fowler's

496
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: done at that point.

497
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: He was cooked.

498
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: That's it, and I that guy win was there. Look,

499
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 3: fact matter is Rory mckley might be the best golfer

500
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 3: in the world, but he can't putt on Sundays in

501
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: major championships. Otherwise he would have won the Open last year. Yeah,

502
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: had won this by a lot, Oh my god, by

503
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: a lot. He had thirty six putts Sunday, same as

504
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: at the Open.

505
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: Same at the Open. He did not make a putt

506
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: all days.

507
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: And it's crazy, it's really crazy because he he basically

508
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: plays like perfect golf, except he can't make a putt.

509
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 3: He's the last he's I think somebody said he was

510
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 3: the only person to have within you know, because they

511
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: haven't played the Open yet. So the last Open and

512
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: then this US Open to have dominated the field and

513
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: be number one in strokes gained tee to green and

514
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 3: not win, Yes, two majors out of four, Yeah, and

515
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: did not win one of them, let alone both.

516
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: So when he got the incredible break on the drop

517
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: and he didn't make par there and that that's a

518
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 2: three shot swing because Clark makes bertie and goes to eleven,

519
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,239
Speaker 2: he drops all the way to none. Yeah, he never

520
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: came back, and he never came back. He ended up

521
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: burdying one. Didn't he birdy one? He birdied the first

522
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: hole and that was it. So it was just one.

523
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, that's right. So he went down to

524
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: he went down to nine his I sold the boys

525
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: and I was watching with my father in law and

526
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: the boys, and I said, it's over, and like, what

527
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: do you mean there's five holes? No, it's over. He

528
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: can't make a putt. He's not making a ten footer.

529
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: So either he has to stick it within five feet

530
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: on us open greens, rolling at fifteen.

531
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 3: Which is hard, which is brutal, or he's.

532
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: Got to dunk it because he's not making a ten

533
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: foot putt. And he didn't. He didn't make a ten

534
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: ft They all are right there. He cozes them all

535
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 2: up there, fine looking pott they're all one foot taps.

536
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: But he can't. He can't make it, and it sucks

537
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: because I was rooting for him or Ricky.

538
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: Do you see at one point, I think after on

539
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: the middle of day two or the end of day two,

540
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: Fouler was something like twelve for twelve inside of fifteen feet,

541
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: like he had not missed a putt inside of fifteen feet.

542
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: That's nuts, that's nuts. Yeah, that's like a video.

543
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: But then he lost it. Yeah, windhom guy. He's got

544
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: a nice swing and he hit some money shots.

545
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: I mean he is I was telling I was talking

546
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: about it last night actually at dinner, and I said,

547
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: you know, people get critical of guys like us when

548
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: we talk about this, and they said, well, why aren't

549
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: you talking about Wyndham Clark. And you do talk about

550
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: he talk he's great and all of that, But Wyndham

551
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: Clark is a two minute converse, two to five minute conversation.

552
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: Because it's very likely that that's the last major he'll

553
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: ever win. I think it's more likely than not. I mean,

554
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: he's what he is. He more likely that in the world, Like.

555
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: You say before, he before this, his best finish in

556
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 4: any of the four big championship matches was like seventy fifth.

557
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not.

558
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: It's one he won at when his first tournament this year,

559
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 3: I at the age of twenty nine.

560
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then now he's won this. Yeah, but more

561
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: likely than not, he's done the other people winning. Allow

562
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 2: for a very different conversation, Ricky wins. Ricky was the

563
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: most popular goal for on tour with young people after

564
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: the Tiger Woods stuff happened. He was number one to

565
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: the point, and I've told the story before where at

566
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: the Memorial one year, remember Ricky had those flat brim

567
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: puma hats with the cat on the side of him

568
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: that he war. One year, Nicholas okayd his company to

569
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: make a golden bear version of that that was flat

570
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: brimmed black with a giant golden bear on the side

571
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: of it. Because they were trying to cat. They're like,

572
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: this kid is come. He doesn't want anything.

573
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: He's coming here, and all these kids want to buy

574
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: is Puma flat brims.

575
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: Ye, So they tried to cobra all of it, all

576
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: of it. In fact, NBC's clubs are cobras, They're the

577
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: Ricky Cobra clubs. And I said, well, I think these

578
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: US golf ones are probably the better ones, but he

579
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: just wanted the rickey ones. So that was it.

580
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: I want So that part he would have been unbelievable

581
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: and everything he's been through would have been an incredible story.

582
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: And then Rory, it's nine years now from a guy

583
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: who you felt was going to win twelve majors.

584
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: Ten years ago he won it congressional. You think, well,

585
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna win ten. So what it felt like and

586
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: he's been stuck on four for a long time. There's

587
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: these incredible historic kickups on the on the fourth day,

588
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: like the Masters one, which is brutal on the back nine.

589
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: He's got nineteen top ten or nineteen top tens, nine

590
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: top fives in majors in that time and hasn't broken through,

591
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: and so his he's like, his legacy is on hold.

592
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: His legacy is on hold. And then you had Scheffler,

593
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: who was forefer is the best golfer in the world

594
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: right now.

595
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: It feels like, so you have all of these things

596
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: that that are a different golf conversation totally. Wyndam Clark

597
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: is a two minute good for him, mom died all

598
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: of it. Thrilled for him.

599
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: Gonna get some exemptions, but it gets some sponsors.

600
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: Not anything that's going to travel, I will say for him, though,

601
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: it's pretty money to have that much poise, knowing who

602
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: everybody else around him on the leader board was. Now

603
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: he shot seventy yeah, which was obviously good enough to

604
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 3: win the US Open, And I thought his lag put

605
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 3: from sixty feet on the on the last hole, like

606
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: anybody who's ever played golf or played a competitive golf

607
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: and when you know, okay, I just have to two putt.

608
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not necessarily the easiest thing to do, No,

609
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: to stick it to two feet where you don't.

610
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: Have to think about it because next one doesn't even

611
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 3: need to think about it. There was it's funny you

612
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: mentioned that about Rory. There was a stat they showed, Yeah,

613
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: most second place finishes in golf majors, the number one

614
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: is actually Jack Nicholas with nineteen. So I saw that,

615
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: and then I think Phil Mickelson is getting close to it.

616
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: I think he's got fifteen of them, which blew my mind.

617
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: Well, he had about eight, it felt like in a

618
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: row at the US Open. Maybe it's twelve.

619
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: Maybe it's he has twelve, and maybe I don't know

620
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: if he had another one. Since this is from twenty

621
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: it's hard to get one from twenty twenty three. This

622
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: is from twenty twenty one, so maybe he's had Yeah,

623
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's had more lessons in but

624
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: he had twelve. Nicholas was one at nineteen and Arnold

625
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: Palmer had ten. I was like, that's amazing. And I

626
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: bet a lot of those ones from Marnie and Jack

627
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: were probably to each other.

628
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. One of the things that anytime, like when

629
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: it was when it was thought that it was viable

630
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: that Tiger could catch Jack. One of the things that

631
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: the Jack. Supporters would say, is Jack finished second nineteen times,

632
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: he won eighteen, he finished second nineteen unreal times, and

633
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: Tiger didn't have that. Tiger didn't finish. Tiger either won

634
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: or he was off the pack, off the pace a

635
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: little bit. So that was kind of he didn't have

636
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: all of those runner ups that he did. But yeah,

637
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: I think that. The other thing that's happening is it's

638
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: happened like so many of those courses are going to

639
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: that look. So there's a lot of them that are

640
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: going that way, and there's a couple on the east

641
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: side that are doing that.

642
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, country, they're going to Beach Month's taking a billion

643
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: trees out.

644
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: Walden's taking a bunch of trees out, and it's like

645
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: turf health and all of that. But then there's also

646
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: this like this going back to this old look.

647
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: But they also nobody wants to actually have the rough

648
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: that makes it penal. So to me, it drives me nuts.

649
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: They've just there were a few holes of Walden, for example,

650
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: that were really challenging, and you really you had to

651
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: shape your T shot one way or the other. You

652
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: had trouble if you didn't hit an accurate T shot

653
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: and then they just take all those treets and you

654
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: can hit it anywhere.

655
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got. If you do it, you got to

656
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: grow the rough up. And the problem with that nobody

657
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: nobody wants it, and it takes longer because people are

658
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: looking for their ball and the rough over and over again.

659
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it doesn't want that.

660
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: No, no, no, So it was I like the look

661
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: of it. It was cool to see a skyline.

662
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: It was cool to see a different course. Going back

663
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: to the conversation the three of us have so often totally.

664
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: One didn't look like it would be in La. It

665
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: looked like it could be in Montana or in South

666
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: Carolina with some of the fescue, And yeah, I thought

667
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: it was.

668
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: I would be very curious to see what it looked

669
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: like before the restoration. Yeah, like if it was you know,

670
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: lush tree line. I'm sure you know, like that type

671
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: of looks. The official official teaching pro of the programs

672
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: me some before of that and afters of Congressional because

673
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: we were talking about this last week. It was unbel

674
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 2: I can't believe what they've done. I think it's crazy.

675
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: And somebody even sued. Apparently somebody sued because they basically

676
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: kind of did it on the cover of Night. I

677
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: took down all these trees, like, I'm not sure if

678
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: this is even legal trees. I love trees.

679
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I had a lot of clubs even around

680
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: here that are doing it.

681
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I it always. I was texting with

682
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: Michael about it, and he was saying that, you know,

683
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: a lot of it is the The other part of

684
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: it is just like grass can't grow in the shade. Yeah,

685
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: so like for the health of your turf, you have

686
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 2: to get sunlight back on these courses. So but it's

687
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: going to an extreme nature without it looks like this

688
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: thing was wide open. Well, and it was wide I'll

689
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: bring it back. Well, no, it take fifty years, right,

690
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't just be like well, I actually

691
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: I liked it better with the trees out there. You

692
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: can't do it. So I don't know. I don't I'm

693
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: not a huge fan of that.

694
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: I did love seeing this course, And one thing I

695
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: will say that I loved as well was that eighty

696
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: five yard par three. Love the green was this narrow

697
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: and to see how good these guys are yep, was awesome.

698
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 2: That was really fun. I think I think the par

699
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: threes were really cool here and one that was too

700
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: eighty five and then the other one that was eighty

701
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: six or whatever it was. Yeah, that was fun. It

702
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: was cool to see the variety of swing.

703
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: That one driveable par four where I think it was

704
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: six maybe where you could you had a variety of

705
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: ways that you could go after.

706
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: I thought it was.

707
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: The course was awesome but obviously held up really really

708
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: well scoring wise after what it appeared to be. You know,

709
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: we were on pace obviously, which was ridiculous for thirty

710
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: two hunder. That wasn't gonna happen obviously, but that that

711
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: fair ways though, especially on eighteen at a US Open.

712
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: Just bring you in.

713
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: Gott to hit a good ball off the team eighteen

714
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: at the US Open, you can't just.

715
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: They were right on the broadcast. I mean one of

716
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: them said it looked like a runway at lax. That

717
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: is what it looked like. There was good. I thought

718
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: he was fine.

719
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: I thought, he's no sir Nick, No, no, no, he's

720
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: no Johnny, he's guy already.

721
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: He's got two majors now because they've got the they

722
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: bought this one back from Fox, and then they have

723
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: the British which they got from ESPN. So they've got

724
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: two NBC's got two majors. Enough excitement for me, and

725
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: he's always yeah, he's fine, he's fine, serviceable. Yeah, yeah,

726
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure that they would. I'm sure they're looking to

727
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: find somebody else. Why couldn't you just take like Faldo

728
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: and have him just do majors?

729
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: Agreed, like like, hey, can you leave the ranch for

730
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: a week?

731
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: Well, but I mean just have him do the US

732
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: Open and the British Open. Sure, Like he doesn't need

733
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: to do the full tour like CBS needed him to do.

734
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: Just have him come in and do the British Open.

735
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: In the US Open.

736
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: I used to love when it was Ken Venturi.

737
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Oh he was unbelievable. Johnny Miller was crotchety, but he's good.

738
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: Well he was too hard on the players, Yeah, but

739
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: I like that same. It's not for them, no, it's

740
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: for all of us.

741
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was Kenny Venturi. He was a a

742
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 2: San Francisco legend. Yeah he yeah, yeah, so it was Johnny.

743
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: Was it Johnny A sept grew up like playing Olympic

744
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: or is that where sixty three was? That's I don't

745
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: think that's where sixty three was I think.

746
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: He's in California, when no, he's Utah, isn't.

747
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: He When you've been there, it is the fact that

748
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: he shut sixty three on courses and that's no. He

749
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 3: was born in San Francisco.

750
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right here go yeah yeah must I mean for

751
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: people who have been there, I think a real privilege

752
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: would just be to walk around it and not play

753
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: it and not get to hit a shot. Not get

754
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: to hit a shot, not a single no, not one,

755
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: not one, just one part three part gets hurt. Nobody, nobody,

756
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: who's out here, who's watching?

757
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: Literally literally nobody, nobody. Only The only people I saw

758
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: offer eighteen holes were Jack Bieber and Zaga.

759
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: Hold my bag, Yeah, and understand the privilege of that.

760
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah that I'm I'm walking, you're walking and the hounds. Yeah. Yeah,

761
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,359
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762
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782
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: It happens. Yeah, so I got Burgundy. That's that's not

783
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: your fault, Papa burg I was Uh last night I

784
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: had I was going back and forth between Papa Burgundy

785
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: and Old School. Uh, those two were both on at

786
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: the same time. So what a win that is to

787
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: stack those two back Yeah, yeah, it's not a whole

788
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: lot from a sports world happening right now. So you

789
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: I was. I was popping in and out on that,

790
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: and they don't make those movies any those R rated comedies.

791
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: They stopped making those. I think with like Neighbors. No,

792
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: it's like the last one. So then I saw that

793
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence has one that's coming out in like two

794
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: weeks that it's an R rated comedy and she's fronting it.

795
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: So she's got the comedic chops and I feel like

796
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: she does I j Lawrence big fan. Yeah, so she's

797
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: she's going all in on this. It dropped. I want

798
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: to say, it's like next week. I was looking at

799
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: the reviews, at the positive reviews at this point, so

800
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: potentially maybe get a little bring it back. We need that.

801
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: There was a run that was incredible.

802
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 4: It's called No Hard Feelings.

803
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

804
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: There was a peak that would you say that did

805
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: it begin with old School.

806
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: Or did it but Stida even been like Meet the Fockers,

807
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: like that era still more tame than well then Yeah,

808
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: so it was like old school, super bad, wedding crashers, anchoring,

809
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: and like Hangover. Hangover might have been first in that group,

810
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: which is good. Yeah, it might have been that. I

811
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: mean that was all that same Marshall. Yes, those were

812
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: all that same time, and then it went all the

813
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: way like Neighbors is pretty funny. There was went all

814
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: the way through that and then gone off the grid.

815
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Why would that be? Why would that go away as

816
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: a genre. I don't be honest with you. I don't

817
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: know if anybody. I don't know if there's any good

818
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: ideas in movies right now. It's all retread stuff. And

819
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: that's why people went nuts for Maverick because it had everything.

820
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: It was nostalgia, it was new, it was all those things.

821
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: You know.

822
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: Well, you had the from the R rated comedy scendpoint,

823
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: you had the original wave, which was like every you know, Porky's.

824
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: And oh Caddy Shack, Yeah, Federal House, a house.

825
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: You can't exactly run those back, No, No, well yeah,

826
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 4: Revenge of the nerdsmake, No, that one's Yeah.

827
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: Nerds is a great movie, it is, but that's that

828
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 2: could only be made in nineteen eighty four. You can't

829
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 2: make that movie now. Correct.

830
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: By the way, I was watching my I was watching

831
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: an old Chappel show, Like, there's no way he would

832
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 3: be able.

833
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: To get any of that on the air. I don't know.

834
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: I think like his comedy bits. His stand up stuff

835
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: on Netflix is pretty it's about as edgy as can be.

836
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: But that's on Netflix. Oh yeah, yeah, you're not doing

837
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: it on Comedy Central. No, no, no, he was easy.

838
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, true jeeves. Were you did you do

839
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: raw last night?

840
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: Went to raw last night?

841
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: How we do?

842
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 5: Uh?

843
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: It was a great show. It started off though it

844
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: was tough for us. So the two people that were

845
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: friends with obviously the Miz and then yeah Chelsea Green

846
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: who's married to uh Broski, Matt Cardona, the Indie God

847
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: and ai W champion. They were the first you match.

848
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: They both lost or like our friends are over too.

849
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: Like what's the deal?

850
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: But uh Biz lost at home? Yeah, he's on, he's on.

851
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: He's he's having a he's in a little bit of

852
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: a losing streak. Yeah, unfortunately, I don't like it.

853
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like it.

854
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: Eat him up, Yeah, let's let heat him up up

855
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, give him a little juice.

856
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: Give him a little ju I mean coming home, he

857
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: can't listen. We can't have that.

858
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: The WWE has a rule and I don't know if

859
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: it's because of some vincick man thinks it's funny, but

860
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: nothing good happens to anybody.

861
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: In their hometown as Brett Hart or in their home country.

862
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, or ask Jim Ross when he, unbeknownst to him,

863
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: had to join the kiss my butt Club as they

864
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: call it. I mean, these have people kiss McMahon's bare buttocks.

865
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: Speaking of things they couldn't do anymore.

866
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had to join that unbeknownst to him

867
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 3: in Oklahoma, in his in his hometown.

868
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: Yea.

869
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's there's a long tradition of not

870
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 3: having things go the way you want in your hometown, unfortunately,

871
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: and so the mis loss, which is sad, but it's

872
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: great to see him. We had a great time at

873
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: the show. Bernie was at the show, So Bernie, he

874
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: was there right right in front of us. And then

875
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: there was a really cool moment at the end. So

876
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: the main event was the tag team champions, Kevin Owens

877
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: and Sammy's Ain joined with Cody Rhoads to take on

878
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: this faction called Judgment Day, which has Ray Mysterio sending

879
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: it Dominic Mysterio, Rhea Ripley, the women's champion, Finn Balor

880
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: and Damian Priest and Dominic Mysterio, by the way, has

881
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: the most heat, which means like people hate him and

882
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: that I have experienced live in a.

883
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 2: Long long time.

884
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 3: And it's not like go away heat. It is people

885
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: love hating him. He is so hateable Dominic Mysterio and

886
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: crazy how wrestling works. Domin Mysteria was first introduced on

887
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: ww F television at the time.

888
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest, I mean I know who this

889
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: cat was and I just googled it. I mean he's

890
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: pretty hateable. Oh he is. I mean it's he's got

891
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: a real punchable face. Yes, and he's a good he's

892
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: able to so he leans right into it.

893
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's basically with the women's champion, is kind

894
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: of like she's the boss in the relationship and he's

895
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: this like slimy, smarmy guy.

896
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: And he was Raymisterio's kid that wins. So that was good.

897
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: But so that was the main event, and then after

898
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: the main event, there was a very very cool moment

899
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: where Kevin Owens, who was on the Independence for years,

900
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: fifteen years before he actually made it to the wweh

901
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: and one of towards the end of that fifteen year run,

902
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: and I would urge anybody who's a wrestling fan and

903
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 3: a local wrestling fan certainly to seek this out. But

904
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: last night, John Thorne, who runs AIW Okay, he was

905
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 3: there in the front row with some of the talent,

906
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: Josh Bishop, who I've I've told you about. I'm a

907
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: big Bishop, Guy Maserati West Barkley, and Derek Dillinger. They

908
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: were all in the front row and at the end

909
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: of the show didn't have to do this. This was

910
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: dark for the house. Kevin Owens talked about his journey

911
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: for fifteen years. He wanted to get here and he

912
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: was about to quit, and he said that I ended up,

913
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: you know, coming here and we're wrestling for a promotion

914
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: that's here in Cleveland, AIW, which is the one that

915
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: I do some commentary for. Yeah, and he basically said

916
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: that without AIW, he wouldn't be in this ring. And

917
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: he thanked John Thorne by name, and he thanked Chandler Biggins,

918
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: who was the co founder of AIW, who passed away

919
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: six years ago I think six years ago, maybe today,

920
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: right around this time, and gave him like a huge

921
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: shout out, and it was like it was a really

922
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: cool moment and there's maiw Chance and it was just

923
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: it was a really cool nice and he says, if

924
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: you want to support people that you like getting to

925
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: places like this, go support those shows. So we have

926
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: one Friday night at the Asylum, so I'd say come

927
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: check it out. But it was it was it was

928
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: really cool because it was real, like it was from

929
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: his heart. It was absolutely real and it was it

930
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: was a really cool thing.

931
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: Is SummerSlam.

932
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 3: The next event, Money in the Bank from London is

933
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: a week from Saturday. Oh for the WWE. Yeah, the

934
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: indoor w got bow down.

935
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: This is this Friday at the Asyland.

936
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: There you go. Where is where is the London I.

937
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 3: Would guess it would be either, yeah, either Wembley or

938
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: two or whatever that is.

939
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the new Wembley is uh they have

940
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: new Wembley the Olympics stadium and then they've got I

941
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: mean all those soccer teams they have their own, so

942
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 2: like Arsenal has one and uh, it will be Money

943
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 2: in the Bank.

944
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: I just didn't know if they would do it outside.

945
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 3: Or the two Arena. So that's indoors, that's indoors. Yeah,

946
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: two arena in uh, in London, England. First Money in

947
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: the Bank to ever be held outside of the United States,

948
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: first major event to be held in London since two

949
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 3: thousand and two. So that's pretty cool. So money wrestling event,

950
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: yeah since two thousand and two. Yeah, Money in the

951
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: Bank's ladder match. They had the contracts where they get

952
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: to climb up and as sending stars. Logan Paul came

953
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: back last night and entered himself into the Money in

954
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 3: the Bank and cut a good Cleveland promo. It was

955
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: basically the Misses promo. And he's like, the best thing

956
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: that ever happened to me is when I the best.

957
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: The best thing about Cleveland was leaving it and then

958
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: I went to Hollywood and became the star or whatever.

959
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: But then he did drop that he's going to bring

960
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: championships back to Clear. He ragged on the Browns. Come on,

961
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: wasn't he doing the stuff for us last year? I

962
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: think it brother was can I Yeah, it was Jake

963
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: who did stuff for us. Logan's wrestled great rustler.

964
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 2: He really is. He's a natural.

965
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: But then he said that if when he brings championspacks,

966
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: he's going to go party at the Barley House, and

967
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: I that made me laugh. I thought that was pretty

968
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: good line, which is a very just Cleveland only audience

969
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: to it.

970
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: But that made me laugh. But it's a good time.

971
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: Then we went out to town Hall afterwards, which is

972
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: always it's always a win, a great time.

973
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the whole miss family was here.

974
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's thrown out the first pitch tonight at the

975
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: at the Guardians game. For a few days, Tomaso Champa,

976
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: who used to be his partner. They were kind of

977
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: like teaming for a little while and then he got

978
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: hurt and this was his big return and Mike get

979
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: issued an open challenge and he answered it, and Mike

980
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: thought they were gonna hug and.

981
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: Instead he punched him. Oh a double crossed, so it.

982
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 3: Wasn't even fair. He had his T shirt on still,

983
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: he wasn't ready to wrestle when they rang the bell,

984
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: I think you throw the result out.

985
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: Throw the result out at all. A couple of things

986
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: around the sports world. It's funny like none of this

987
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: stuff is going to make a damn bit of difference,

988
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: Like DeAndre Hopkins signing with New England doesn't change anything.

989
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: Nothing Titans changes nothing. There's you know, Dalvin Cook is

990
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: still out there. He's saying like he wants to pair

991
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: with Hopkins, Like, dude, come on, it's it's you cooked.

992
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook. I don't think is cooked.

993
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: But the two of them go in someplace and changing

994
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: the power. That shifted the power money on it.

995
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 4: Not there.

996
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: The one place they go where I think they together

997
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: would shift the balance of power. And I said it

998
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: before is Miami. You put Dalvin Cook in that backfield

999
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: and then you put DeAndre Hopkins as the possession compliment

1000
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: to waddle in Tyreek k Yeah, I mean that feels

1001
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 3: like they would be pretty formidable.

1002
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean their whole thing. Though it's always if

1003
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Tua is healthy, he has to stay healthy.

1004
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna get to some quarterback rankings later where

1005
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 3: he is totally disrespected, which I thought was stunning.

1006
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: I think it's amazing we did. We had Armando on

1007
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: last week and I was asking him about I asked

1008
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: him just that about Tua, like are they really going

1009
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: to go into camp with this roster that is Jalen

1010
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Ramsey and loaded like this, Like you're really going to

1011
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: go in without any insurance policy behind Tua tongue of Iloa,

1012
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: And he talked about Mike White, and I said, I

1013
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: even asked him the Stafford question, like, if something happened

1014
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: to Tua, would they be nimble and go get try

1015
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: to make a play for somebody like Stafford or somebody

1016
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: who cousins somebody who might be on the market who

1017
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: has a dwindling time in his current location. And he

1018
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: seemed to be like, not that, probably not that they

1019
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: would roll Mike White, I'm like, geez, I don't know.

1020
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: It feels like a hell of a gamble with that

1021
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: roster to roll it that way.

1022
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, because it's pretty loaded there again, it's

1023
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: part of why this whole AFC.

1024
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: Is, yeah, very tough. Well, right in the places that

1025
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Hopkins and Cook are linked to are AFC teams. But

1026
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: New England to your point, well, that's nothing. That doesn't

1027
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: do anything. I mean, that's just there's nothing. I don't

1028
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: know what that is. Nothing. Someone tell me what that is.

1029
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: I think it's him, probably. Look, they're one of the

1030
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: few teams that actually desperately need him in that they

1031
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: have no weapons none, so like they need Oh they

1032
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback to get right, so right, so

1033
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: they have no weapons like they need. They could use

1034
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: him everybody else. It's kind of like a luxury.

1035
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1036
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: I agree with your point about Miami. I you know,

1037
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: I think he would do well. He would do well

1038
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: in all the no brainer places, like he do well

1039
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: in Kansas City, he do well in Buffalo, he do

1040
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: well here, Like all of those places, he'd do well.

1041
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: And I think all those places would take him. They're

1042
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: just not going to pay him.

1043
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: To read speaking of Buffalo really quickly? Do you is

1044
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: this was this this part because we've kind of the

1045
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: first hour has been changed. Is this where we're gonna

1046
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: mention Diggs was somewhere in here?

1047
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: Is that in the We talked about it earlier, but

1048
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 2: go ahead, you haven't waited, no, so what did you guys?

1049
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: So this is I'll give you what I know about

1050
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: because I didn't like really heavily and obviously.

1051
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: We did an hour and a half last Tuesday. I

1052
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: bet you it.

1053
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 4: Why not?

1054
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: It's the most fun. Whatever? What else are you gonna do?

1055
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: Hoping for the best sideways?

1056
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: So wonderful it was. He's not here. McDermott's very concerned. Yeah,

1057
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: there's all these problems, and then the next day he

1058
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: was practicing. McDermott's like what do you mean nobody was

1059
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: he was here? What's the big deal?

1060
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: So how did you read it? Right?

1061
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1062
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: Like something doesn't end up So no, everything you said

1063
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: is true. It made no sense. Monday's behavior made no sense,

1064
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: especially juxtaposed with what McDermott said, where he said like

1065
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: he was good. I think the quote was I was concerned,

1066
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: very very concerned. So like he when you take that level,

1067
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 2: it's like is he mentally okay? Is he mentally well?

1068
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: And so then all of a sudden, the next day

1069
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: it's kumbaya, and it was they gave him the time

1070
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: he was in town, they gave him the practice off

1071
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: is the way he spun it the next day, and

1072
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: then he was at practice Tuesday, and then they canceled

1073
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: practice Wednesday.

1074
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it made no sense though, because none of

1075
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 4: it because it comes out that we're really concerned he's

1076
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 4: not here, and then you find out that he was

1077
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 4: there in the morning and then was gone.

1078
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: And Josh Allen was like, I don't think he doesn't

1079
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: like me.

1080
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, I don't know. Yeah. So the reporting

1081
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Speaker 2: that I saw over the weekend was that he was

1082
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: angry about the trajectory of the offense and his lack

1083
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: of the lack of his opinion that was asked for

1084
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 2: in how they go about playing offensive football.

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Speaker 3: Well, you saw mad he was when we played them

1086
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Speaker 3: in Detroit. I mean he was curious.

1087
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Speaker 2: Well the last the other thing I didn't realize is

1088
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: like his first ten games last year versus his last six,

1089
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: he fell off a cliff, off a cliff. So I

1090
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: guess that's what led to all of it. But it

1091
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Speaker 2: was Yeah, it was a strange. Yeah, I and Givvey

1092
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Speaker 2: and I talked about this last week and we agreed, like,

1093
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Speaker 2: I feel like they missed it. I feel like they

1094
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: had a window. It was a two year window with

1095
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: like as they're gonna have a bunch of windows with Allen,

1096
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of different builds around him. But in terms

1097
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: of this build with this group, it feels like they

1098
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: missed their opportunity. And now I think you think about

1099
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Speaker 2: what we've done with the We're talk Jets in a second,

1100
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Speaker 2: with the Jets have done, Miami, Cincinnati Chargers coming like

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Speaker 2: they were, there was a blip. I think they probably

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Speaker 2: thought they should have had the Bengals last two years

1103
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: super Bowl, playing the Super Bowl, playing AFC Championship games

1104
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Speaker 2: and they didn't have it, and I think that.

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Speaker 3: They wore in many ways derailed by injury. I think

1106
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Speaker 3: the von Miller injury was devastating to them. I think

1107
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Speaker 3: that you know that last year they lost Micah Hyde

1108
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Speaker 3: basically for the whole season, the year Fortraite Avious White.

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Speaker 3: You know, last time they'd had some they had some

1110
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: bad injury luck at important positions of their defense.

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Speaker 2: And now they find themselves. You know, this team that

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about next week at dien or

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Speaker 2: a tour around the league, the Jets staring right across

1114
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Speaker 2: the field at them and going, man, they got kind

1115
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Speaker 2: of everything that we have too. They're absolutely I think

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Speaker 2: they're an equal to to where Buffalo is. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: let's start with with Aaron Rodgers. This has been He's

1131
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: been like man about town. He's been everywhere he could

1132
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: be over the over the month that he was in town.

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Speaker 2: What have your interactions been like with Rogers.

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00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you're right, he's been. You know, he's been

1135
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 5: at the postseason games for the Rangers and Knicks. He's

1136
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 5: been at Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran concerts. He's been

1137
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 5: to Broadway a couple of times. He's spoken to the

1138
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 5: media a few times. He's been you know, his press

1139
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 5: conferences are very he's very engaging with the media, and

1140
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 5: he always was in Green Bay, perhaps even more so now.

1141
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 5: I think he's really making a concerted effort to win

1142
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 5: over this fan base. And he certainly has won over

1143
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 5: his teammates already, and so a lot of this is

1144
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 5: public relations, but I think he had a really strong

1145
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 5: offseason in terms of just getting himself out there and

1146
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 5: making himself part of the team.

1147
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: Obviously, that's the big stories Aaron Rodgers coming, it turns

1148
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: them into a super contender overnight. Nathaniel Hackett in reunites there.

1149
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: What's this offense going to look like in your opinion

1150
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: going forward, A lot like.

1151
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 5: The twenty one packers. You know you mentioned the Nathaniel Hackett.

1152
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 5: I think he is the main reason why Aaron Rodgers

1153
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 5: is here. Aaron has said that publicly. If the Jets

1154
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 5: don't hire Hackett, then you know, who knows where Aaron

1155
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 5: Rodgers is. Maybe he's retired at this point. I certainly

1156
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 5: don't think he'd be back in Green Bay. So it's

1157
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 5: a West Coast offense, it's probably and the Jets are

1158
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 5: coming from a West Coast offense. They had Mike Lafleur

1159
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 5: last year as the coordinator, so it's not a huge difference.

1160
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 5: But I think this is more of a pure West

1161
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 5: Coast offense. They'll probably be less motion less pre snap motion.

1162
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 5: Rodgers is not a huge fan of motion, whereas last

1163
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 5: year they Jets did a lot of motion. What's like

1164
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 5: the Las floor and Shanahan offenses around the NFL, so

1165
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 5: I think they'll dial that back. And he's got a

1166
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 5: great relationship with Hackett. It's it's almost like a brotherly

1167
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: type really relationship, and so that part it's a huge

1168
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 5: advantage to have to have a quarterback that experience come

1169
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 5: in and not have to learn a new offense. It's

1170
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Speaker 5: just a big plus.

1171
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's got a very very talented group of

1172
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 3: pass catchers, led of course by Garrett Wilson, who I

1173
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 3: think is going to be a monster with Aaron Rodgers there.

1174
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: How do you see the rest of that room shaking

1175
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: out though, because you know Corey Davis is still on

1176
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: the roster, right, you brought in Lazard, you brought in

1177
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: Mcole Hardman, you brought in his pal Randall Cobb. How

1178
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: do you kind of see this wide receiver room playing out.

1179
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good question. I mean, clearly they

1180
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 5: have their number one is Garrett Wilson, there's no question

1181
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 5: about that. I think Allan Lazard is probably their number two.

1182
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 5: I think there's a considerable gap between one and two,

1183
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 5: and then they have a couple of slot guys like

1184
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 5: Randall Cobb and Nicole Hartman can play out of the

1185
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 5: slot as well, But to me, the key is Corey Davis.

1186
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 5: I just don't know what I mean. He's been a

1187
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 5: star harder for them for two years. They you know,

1188
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 5: they give him a you know, pretty significant contrast. He's

1189
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 5: making about eleven million a year, and I think he's

1190
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 5: a man without a defined role at this moment. I

1191
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 5: think he's gonna have to restructure his contract. You're not

1192
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 5: going to pay eleven million a year for a number

1193
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 5: three or number four receivers, So that one remained. Keep

1194
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 5: an eye on that one. I'm not one hundred percent

1195
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 5: sure that he's going to be on the final roster.

1196
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 5: I think I'm probably ninety percent sure. But you know,

1197
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 5: they went after Odell Beckham hart. I mean they they

1198
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 5: thought they had him, and then at the last second,

1199
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 5: the Ravens just up their offer and the Jets missed

1200
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 5: on him. So the Jets, we know. But I know

1201
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 5: your follow up question is probably gonna be on DeAndre Hopkins.

1202
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 5: I do not believe the Jets have an interest in

1203
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 5: DeAndre Hopkins. In fact, I know they don't so, but

1204
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 5: if the right one came along, you know, perhaps they

1205
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 5: would look at at a receiver Rich You know the

1206
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 5: I want to.

1207
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Speaker 2: Go back to Rogers for a second, because there's a

1208
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: couple of ways of looking. I mean, he's these two

1209
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: years removed from being the MVP. Last year, a little

1210
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: bit of a down year by his standards, but still

1211
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: sensational compared to what the Jets are used to. Obviously,

1212
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: my kind of theory on it is that it could

1213
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: be very similar to what happened with Manning when he

1214
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: got to Denver, where there's I think that there's a

1215
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: lot still in the tank. You got an up close

1216
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 2: look at him, and more importantly, you're talking to players

1217
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 2: who are catching balls from him. Does it feel to

1218
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 2: you like there's still a lot left in the Rogers tank?

1219
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, great question. I actually did a story on this

1220
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 5: last week or ESPN dot com. I look back at

1221
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 5: the famous, you know, future Hall of Fame quarterbacks who

1222
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 5: changed teams late in their careers, and of course Joe

1223
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 5: Montana going to Kansas City. You mentioned Manning going to Denver.

1224
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 5: You had Warren Moon going to Minnesota, and you had

1225
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 5: Brett Barb going to the Jets, and of course the topper,

1226
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 5: of course, Brady going to the Bucks. And Brady won

1227
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. The Manny one that there are some similarities.

1228
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 5: You know, I think all of the guys I just

1229
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 5: mentioned had something to prove. When a legend is no

1230
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 5: longer wanted in the team where he became a star,

1231
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it definitely creates a chip on

1232
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: their shoulder. I think the situation that it's most similar

1233
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 5: to is Montana going to Kansas City because Joe a

1234
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 5: transitioned nicely and he already knew the offense because the

1235
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator for Kansas City at the time was Paul Hackett,

1236
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 5: who is NS Daniel's father, and he had been an

1237
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 5: assistant with Joe in San Francisco, much like Nathaniel was

1238
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: an assistant in Green Bay with Aaron. So for Joe,

1239
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 5: he already knew the offense and there was a Peyton.

1240
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 5: Manning was talking about this on the McAfee show about

1241
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 5: a month ago. He says, when you're an eighteen or

1242
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 5: nineteen year quarterback, he goes, it is really hard to

1243
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 5: learn a new offense because you have to unlearn the

1244
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 5: one you're accustomed to and then learn a new language.

1245
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 5: So he said, with Rogers, he'll be able to start

1246
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 5: the season so much faster, just because he knows it.

1247
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: Already as somebody who may or may not have Breece

1248
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: Hall in a lot of dynasty leagues. How's he doing?

1249
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: Is the expectation that he will be ready to go?

1250
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: And how do you see that backfield? Is he going

1251
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: to be the guy?

1252
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1253
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 5: I know a lot of fantasy owners are you know,

1254
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 5: watching closely on Breeze Hall. Every indication from Breet's and

1255
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 5: from the Jets is that they expect him to be

1256
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 5: ready for Week one, Monday Night opener against the Bills

1257
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 5: on Monday Night Football. I do not expect to see

1258
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 5: Breese Hall in training camp. I do not expect to

1259
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 5: see him in pre season games. They're going to continue

1260
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 5: his rehab program. Robert Salad mentioned only a couple of

1261
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 5: weeks ago that Brees was hitting twenty two miles an

1262
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 5: hour on the GPS, you know, just running off to

1263
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 5: the side, which is you know, that's like his pre

1264
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 5: injury speed. That's one of the fastest.

1265
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: In the league.

1266
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 5: Now, that's great, and everyone said he's ahead of schedule.

1267
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 5: But what we don't know is, you know, how fast

1268
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 5: does he accelerate? The experts say when you come back

1269
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 5: from an ACL injury, that's that's the last thing to

1270
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 5: come back is just your acceleration, you know, which is

1271
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 5: so important, especially in this style of offense, so that

1272
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 5: we don't know and we don't know how he's going

1273
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 5: to respond to contact, and so I do expect brief

1274
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 5: Hall to be ready for Week one. I don't know

1275
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 5: if we'll see the briefs Hall we saw last year

1276
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 5: until maybe later on in the season.

1277
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: I want to talk about a guy we know a

1278
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: little bit about who played his college career here in

1279
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: Ohio and Garrett Wilson eighty three for eleven hundred four

1280
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: touchdowns last year, but it just kind of it was

1281
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: so different depending on who the quarterback was. Obviously, what

1282
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: can he do with Rogers? Can is it in play

1283
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: for him to elevate? Do they feel like it's in

1284
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 2: play for him to elevate to the Justin Jefferson Jamar

1285
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: Chase level.

1286
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think the Jets are really excited about it.

1287
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 5: The best player, you know. I watched you know, a

1288
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 5: few offseason practices and he was the best player on

1289
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 5: the team in these practices. He's just so talented. You

1290
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 5: mentioned the eleven hundred yards last year, I think, and

1291
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 5: he did that with one of the worst quarterbacking situations

1292
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 5: in the league. I think if you look back on

1293
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 5: rookies who won over a thousand yards, you could make

1294
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 5: the argument that maybe his was among the most impressive

1295
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 5: ever given what who he had thrown to him. So,

1296
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking Joe Flacco, you know, Zach Wilson,

1297
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 5: Mike White, So not exactly a who's who in quarterbacking there.

1298
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 5: It was not good, but he still managed to rise

1299
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 5: above that. So yeah, I think the name that comes

1300
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 5: up most for obvious reasons is DeVante Adams just because

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Speaker 5: of the Rogers connection. And you know, Rogers gets that question.

1302
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 5: He got that question, you know a week or so ago.

1303
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 5: You know, do you see some Devonte Adams in Garrett

1304
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 5: Wilson and he's like, look, DeVante Adams. I'm I'm biased.

1305
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 5: I still think he's the best receiver in the league.

1306
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 5: He goes, but Garrett Wilson shows the potential to someday

1307
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 5: be the best at his position. So those were really, uh,

1308
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 5: you know, high, you know, high praise coming from Aaron Rodgers.

1309
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 5: So he's on the right track. He's just not quite

1310
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 5: up to the Devonte Adams level just yet.

1311
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: He is incredibly impressive, and so is the guy that

1312
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 3: I would imagine in a lot of these practices maybe

1313
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 3: covers him Sauce Gardner. To have a pair of rookies

1314
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 3: like that at premium positions play as they did as rookies,

1315
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 3: and Sace Gardner obviously was all pro, that's got to

1316
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 3: be pretty exciting. And how is Sauce kind of looking

1317
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: here in hear two where it feels like he could

1318
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: become you know, that Revus Island type corner in this league,

1319
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: which is a tough thing to do nowadays.

1320
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of guys from Ohio schools. Maybe the

1321
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 5: Jets should go to that well more often that two

1322
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 5: of their better draft picks. They got Sauce of course

1323
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 5: at it since he was phenomenal. I mean I covered

1324
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 5: Revas as a rookie. Sauce was better as a rookie

1325
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 5: than Rebus was as a rookie. Now, Rebas elevated his game.

1326
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 5: By Revas' third or fourth year, he was the best

1327
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 5: corner that I've ever seen, and Sauce is not quite

1328
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 5: to that level yet. But you know, for him, the

1329
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 5: key is maybe getting more takeaways. He only had two

1330
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 5: picks last year. He led the league in passes defense,

1331
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 5: which is he had twenty So you know he's getting close.

1332
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 5: You know, he's getting his hands on some balls. He's

1333
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 5: just got to make a few more interceptions to really

1334
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 5: go to the next level. And I think he was

1335
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 5: the first rookie to make All Pro at corner since

1336
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 5: Ronnie Lott in the early nineteen eighties. So it was

1337
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 5: a really historic year for Sauce and for him, it'll

1338
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 5: just be you know, just the hunger. A lot of

1339
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 5: rookies have incredible success and then they kind of slack off.

1340
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 5: You know, does he can he maintain that intensity now

1341
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 5: that he's achieved success? You know, from all indications the

1342
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 5: answer is yes from what everyone says. Of course, we

1343
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 5: don't know that for sure, and so we see it

1344
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 5: play out, but yeah, she is. He is a tremendous,

1345
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 5: tremendous talent rich This.

1346
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: Is obviously one of the most talented Jets teams in

1347
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: a very very long time. It's a loaded AFC obviously,

1348
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: But where where do you have them? What's what is realistic?

1349
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: What is what's a realistic expectation for this Jets team

1350
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: in year one with Rogers?

1351
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I they're not the best or the

1352
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 5: second best maybe probably not even the third best team

1353
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 5: in the AFC. I still think Kansas City, Cincinnati, Baltimore

1354
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 5: are probably the three best in my opinion. And then

1355
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 5: you know they're loaded in the AFC East as well.

1356
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 5: You know, Buffalo and Miami are right there. I definitely

1357
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 5: think it would be a major disappointment if the Jets

1358
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 5: don't make the playoffs this year. They won seven games

1359
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 5: last year with you know, a lot of instability at quarterback.

1360
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 5: I think even if Rogers has a good year and

1361
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 5: not even an MVP year, I think they'll get three

1362
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 5: more wins. So I think this is a ten or

1363
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 5: eleven win team that'll probably you know, go to Kansas

1364
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 5: City in the divisional rounds and maybe lose to the

1365
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 5: Chiefs and the divisionals, which I think would be a

1366
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 5: solid year for the Jets. You know, I don't think

1367
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 5: they're ready to go Super Bowl just yet. I mean,

1368
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 5: their offensive line has some questions. You know, they have

1369
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 5: some age, they have some injuries there, some stuff they're

1370
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 5: shorting for on the offensive line. I think that's the

1371
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 5: big question. But yeah, I would say a ten or

1372
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 5: eleven win team that gets into the playoffs.

1373
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: You mentioned the offensive line there, And the question I

1374
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: was gonna ask is kind of what do you see

1375
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 3: as the holes on this roster or the things that

1376
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: would limit the upside of what feels like it could

1377
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: be a pretty darn good team. You have a premier

1378
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: guy on the front of your defense. He got a

1379
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 3: great linebacker.

1380
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: CJ.

1381
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: Mosley's played well at your back end, we know the

1382
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: stars there. And then offensively with Rogers, it feels like

1383
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 3: an opportunity to put a lot of points.

1384
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: On the board.

1385
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 5: Yeah. With the offensive line, it's you know, they got

1386
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 5: a thirty eight year old left tackle and Dwayne Brown's

1387
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 5: coming off a rotator cuff surgery. Played well last year

1388
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 5: with that injury, but you know, thirty eight years old,

1389
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 5: how much does he have left? They got a center situation.

1390
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 5: They drafted Joe Tipman out of Wisconsin in the second round.

1391
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 5: I fully expect him to take over that job at

1392
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 5: some point, but is he their opening day starter. I

1393
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 5: don't think they're ready to say that yet. They have

1394
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 5: Connor McGovern, the incumbent, still on the roster, so that's

1395
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 5: a competition, and right tackle is like, I mean, there's

1396
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 5: like a multiple choice there. They have a few guys

1397
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 5: Makai Beckton, the guy you know they drafted him in

1398
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 5: the first round in twenty twenty. He's been a disappointment

1399
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 5: so far. He's been injured a lot, He's battled weight issues.

1400
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 5: He's lost fifty pounds this offseason. He's down to I

1401
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 5: think under three point forty now. It's been an amazing transformation.

1402
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 5: He should do a a commercial like they should get

1403
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: some sponsorships for some dietary Commerciaiti, yes, swim Fast or something,

1404
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 5: you know, weight watchers, because he has dropped. He looks

1405
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 5: like a different person. But you know, he hasn't played

1406
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 5: in two years because of knee injuries. So can he

1407
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 5: you know, stay on the field. So that's another question.

1408
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, so they got this Paul of Fame quarterback

1409
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 5: and they've got some good pieces around him, but it's

1410
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 5: not gonna mean a whole lot unless his offensive line

1411
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 5: comes together.

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: Rich, great stuff, as always, Thank you so much for

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01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: your time today.

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, my pleasure, have a good one.

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Speaker 2: Time to take a look at the categories on the

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Speaker 2: New York Jets. Uniforms. Boy, what a miss.

1435
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 3: It's sad they've got in there in their stable. They

1436
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 3: have I think beautiful uniforms.

1437
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: Well now they can't use them though they're not in

1438
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: their current closet. No, and I just pulled up their

1439
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: closet as a matter of fact. So they've got the

1440
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: greens and then they've got the black, but they.

1441
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: Do not have the NamUs and is exactly what they

1442
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 3: should be. You should wear the nameth with a black

1443
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: version of the nameth.

1444
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: That would be beautiful. How about that? Look at you

1445
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: advocating for a black jersey.

1446
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 3: I'm not big on it, but I do think their

1447
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 3: colors are green, white and black. Yep, they are, and

1448
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 3: so I think that that works, like a black version

1449
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 3: of the name Youth would work.

1450
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

1451
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't love the current uniforms.

1452
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: They look like the Saskatchewan rough Riders. Yeah, they look

1453
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: like a CFL outfit. Nike does this thing if you

1454
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 2: let them where they feel the need to put the

1455
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: name of the city on the jersey. The NFL does

1456
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: not need it. It's never needed it. There's no reason

1457
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: to do it. Everybody knows what the team is. You

1458
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to put it on the side. They have

1459
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: all these crazy stripe non striping. Yep, it's brutal. It's

1460
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: just brutal. It's just an amateurish look. But they did

1461
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: this with Atlanta. Remember Atlanta has to have atl on

1462
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 2: the front. Like, why, that's just a good uniform. What

1463
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: is wrong with that? It's a great uniform. There's nothing

1464
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: wrong with that uniform. These are It's terrible.

1465
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 7: It is.

1466
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how you view

1467
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: it as a win. To me, you had a win.

1468
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: And they're probably stuck in these now for a while

1469
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: because they're relatively new, aren't they. Yeah, there's two or

1470
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 2: three years old for a few. Yeah.

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 3: It's crazy though. When they debuted those, it was Sam

1472
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 3: Darnold Jamal Adams were the people that they were like,

1473
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 3: they're big, you know, promo guys. Well it was the

1474
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 3: other one was I remember like Darren Lee and was

1475
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 3: was like Leaco and I remember that kid man. Yeah yeah,

1476
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 3: but the linebacker is the second round pick. So they

1477
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: unveiled them on in twenty nineteen. Okay, so next year

1478
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 3: will be year five with this, so.

1479
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: This is the last year they have to do. Yeah,

1480
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: so they could they could get off of it, but

1481
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: he certainly what hopes Yeah right, yeah, they they could

1482
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: get off of it and and get back to you know,

1483
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a if you want to

1484
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: keep the I guess if you feel like you got

1485
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: to wear the green helmet like they had it with

1486
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: like the Ken O'Brien Mark Gastono era, I don't like it,

1487
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: but but I.

1488
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 3: Guess if you feel like you had to, you could.

1489
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 3: You could keep that, but you got to get back

1490
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 3: to a more traditional look. I don't like any of

1491
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: their uniforms.

1492
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: I think the only one that's it's kind of like

1493
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: us when we had the ones, like, the only one

1494
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: that kind is passable was the all white kind of

1495
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 2: kind of sort of.

1496
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's not good and it's not.

1497
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 2: Again. We what did we do?

1498
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 3: We went back to classic and yeah, oh gosh, they're

1499
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 3: so beautiful.

1500
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 2: It's all they have to do. This isn't hard. Don't

1501
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: don't overthink it. Stadium. I've not been to the New

1502
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: meadow Land. It's big. Givvy Givvy always says it from

1503
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: like the radio booth perspective.

1504
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: No, no, actually the booth. Yeah, it's it's a football

1505
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: it any doesn't have a character, no character whatsoever. The

1506
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 4: one highlight was the one year we played there. It

1507
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 4: might be the Manzell years.

1508
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

1509
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 4: It might I might have that wrong, but llll cool

1510
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 4: Jay was sitting in the road right below. It was

1511
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 4: a December game. Okay, I can't remember Manzel years.

1512
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: We would have played there at the Week one when

1513
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 3: Josh McCown got hurt the helicopter.

1514
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: Uh huh to Mario Davis.

1515
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 4: Not great, it wouldn't have been. I don't remember when.

1516
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: We were played there Monday night when Odell had the

1517
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: sling Yeah, touchdown. Here's what I remember when this happened

1518
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 2: because this opened about the same time as Jerry World,

1519
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 2: and somebody put up a graphic of Jerry World and

1520
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: Jets and it said, this is what a billion dollars

1521
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: gets you in Dallas, and this is what a billion

1522
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: dollars gets you in New York City Metro.

1523
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they basically the same price. It's like totally

1524
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 3: you could do this here or this there.

1525
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 4: Well, and it's one of those where it's and then

1526
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 4: when the Giants play, you just take the banner down

1527
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 4: and like Bell Crow up the Giants banner, they.

1528
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 2: Just go blue, right, they just go blue.

1529
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 3: So it's for one team because it's built for two.

1530
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: Well, I remember at one point years ago there was

1531
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: talk of them doing like a like a West Side

1532
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: Manhattan Stadium for the Jets, like in man would be

1533
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: pretty cool that they were trying to get that done.

1534
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: But it's just.

1535
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 3: Ntadium. When you're on the field looking up, it looks

1536
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 3: very impressive, looks like a giant coliseum.

1537
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Road trip to New York absolutely. Home run, oh boy,

1538
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: home run, so much fun. So many things to do.

1539
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: Where the activities? Where do you even start? You can't. Yeah,

1540
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: it's just there's so many.

1541
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 3: Different Pick a region that you're interested in, or a

1542
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 3: burrow and go.

1543
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome, easy to get there.

1544
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 3: I would stay if you're going for the game, though,

1545
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 3: I think it is important to note that you would

1546
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 3: like to stay on the west side. So in fact,

1547
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 3: down at the meat packing where I just was is

1548
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: a great place today because it's easy access to the

1549
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 3: tunnel to get right out there. Yeah, if you're on

1550
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 3: the east side, that could be adding thirty plus minutes

1551
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 3: to your commutees to try to get Crosstown. Crosstown is

1552
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: very difficult to do in Manhattan.

1553
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 4: So or just stay in Jersey City, take the trails.

1554
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can say it that there's that what the

1555
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 3: w right now is right on the water.

1556
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awesome.

1557
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 2: Also use it Hoboken. Yeah, and that's come alive in

1558
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: the last I was going to say there's bars restaurants. Yeah, absolutely,

1559
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: that's a win. There's a lot of wins, a lot

1560
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: of wins. I love it. I think it's I think

1561
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun. Must thing to do on

1562
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,799
Speaker 2: a road trip. Eat, yeah, eat. Too many great restaurants,

1563
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: Stephen name, there's one thousand billion of a billion you

1564
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: can't go. Yeah, that's so many great places, so many

1565
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: cool things to do. Uh. Player you want from their

1566
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 2: current roster, Gara.

1567
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: Wilson, Yeah, Caro Wilson, Quinn Williams number two, saus Gardener

1568
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 3: number three.

1569
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a lot they got. I'm with on Wilson,

1570
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 2: like I think it's sky's the limit. I think he's.

1571
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 3: I think talking about him after this year, like we're

1572
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 3: talking about justin Jefferson or that you did that with

1573
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: your question, like in.

1574
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase Ye, I think he'll be on that level

1575
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 2: all time.

1576
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 3: Favorite jet Al Tuon Just like the name, it's a

1577
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 3: great name. It's a great name.

1578
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,440
Speaker 2: Honestly, I have no I mean they were pretty nondescript

1579
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: in our youth. It's like Gastono and Kenny O'Brien like Inklecco. Yeah,

1580
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like they were not glamorous in any way.

1581
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 3: And isn't Cleco going into the Hall of Fame this year?

1582
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1583
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 4: Yes one, which is pretty so I think the Veterans Committee.

1584
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 3: Yes, shocking one. I'd say my favorite jet. I mean,

1585
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: Reeves Island was awesome, but I really loved Curtis Martin.

1586
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: Curtis my favorite Martin.

1587
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: He was so good and I don't he doesn't get

1588
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: talked about like he.

1589
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: Was always like fourteen hundred yards eleven touchdowns every year

1590
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: every year. Yeah, he was that every year. He's like

1591
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: third all time in the NFL and rushing. I think

1592
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: he's way way up that list all time. But he

1593
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: doesn't get talked about. Huh. No, he wasn't flashy, I think, right,

1594
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: he wasn't in the spotlight. He wasn't. Yeah, he didn't

1595
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: play on enough great teams. He played on some great teams.

1596
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the correct answer for this is nameath.

1597
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 2: But it's not like I watched him play yet, But

1598
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: like he was Chad Pennington was fun. Yeah, he's fine.

1599
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 2: I mean there was a there was a I was

1600
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: on a flight a seat behind Namath to New Orleans

1601
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: once for the Sugar Bowl when Ohio State played Nameth,

1602
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: I played played Alabama, Like all those guys got together.

1603
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 2: It was like Stabler, like all those legendary because they

1604
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 2: were all Bama guys. It was Stabler and Nameth like

1605
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: all those guys were together. And like Namath has just

1606
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 2: an aura of cool around him. And as he's old,

1607
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: he still is just so so smooth. But uh no,

1608
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 2: obviously point of reference to him as a player always smooth. No,

1609
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 2: not when you you too many always playoff team contender, pretender.

1610
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 2: I think they're a contender for it all.

1611
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 4: I do.

1612
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: I think they mesh quickly. Some people push back on that.

1613
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 2: I think they're Their defense is good, that's why Sola

1614
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: is there.

1615
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 3: And now you brought an Aaron Rodgers and he gets

1616
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 3: to run his offense with their talent, which is feels

1617
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: pretty good. Yeah, they got to resist the urge to

1618
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 3: play Randall Cobb a lot I think over some other game. Yeah,

1619
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 3: like just play the weapons. Yeah it's nice little support staff,

1620
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 3: but let's not let's not get crazy here.

1621
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the biggest offseason, Well, they got Aaron Rodgers, so

1622
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 2: that's as big as any off season acquisition in the

1623
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: it gets. They went from a seven win team. Remember

1624
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: we had that graphic like if they just totally average

1625
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: quarterback play, they went like thirteen and.

1626
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 3: Four twenty points a game. I think it was, yeah,

1627
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: twenty or twenty four something that they would have scored,

1628
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 3: they'd have been thirteen and four. So they are absolutely

1629
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 3: fully loaded. We'll do a little higher lower coming up next.

1630
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 2: He looks at Cleveland ron Dale on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1631
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily. Time for

1632
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: a little higher or lower presented by keeping from Ohio

1633
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: from the Ohio Lottery. Remind you to know the risks

1634
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 2: before you gamble. Ap is here at the undisclosed location. Welcome,

1635
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 2: good to see you, Good to see you guys too.

1636
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: Spend a productive day right up the stairwere and then

1637
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: they you're in the welcome to hostitle. Gibbie, Yes, beer

1638
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: flows like wine, oh yeah, oh yeah absolutely. And the

1639
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: parking spots, as you talked about before, are limited.

1640
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: They are limited.

1641
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 7: No for me, baby, I gotta say bo the first

1642
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 7: thing and Gibbs, the first thing I said when I

1643
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 7: walked in was am I in Bo's parking spot.

1644
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 4: He parked where Zigura is parked, and I said, you

1645
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 4: were parked where Bow parks. Let's have you move into

1646
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 4: the driveway. Just move over because Bo's gonna come in hot,

1647
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 4: about twelve fifty.

1648
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: Coming in hot, coming in hot. Yeah. I looked at

1649
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: it when I drove in, and I'm like, there's nowhere

1650
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: for me to go. So like I didn't know it

1651
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: was your car, and I'm like, whoever's this is, they're

1652
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to get out of I park here. Uh,

1653
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: there's really nowhere for me to go here. That's what

1654
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 2: I'll be here. I'll be here. So that's why I said,

1655
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: is like, if you're here till three, then you say

1656
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: I said you should, you should have been here all

1657
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: but you were the first person I thought of when

1658
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 2: I thinked in here, and I wanted to make sure

1659
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: thank you inappropriate? Thank you inappropriate?

1660
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 4: Then screwed it all up.

1661
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: I think he executed his plan perfectly, which is there

1662
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: are a few things he's much like my wife in

1663
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: this regard that he frustrated me pleases him greatly. Not

1664
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: always no, no, not me. I appreciate your joy, true,

1665
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 2: but you also appreciate my frustration at times, and so

1666
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 2: like the reaction that you wanted you got.

1667
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 3: You want it, and I knew it, you knew what

1668
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: I Listen, I came here planning today to park in

1669
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 3: my normal spot, but I could you could.

1670
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, we made it work. Everybody wins. It's fine,

1671
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 2: it's safe, it's safe.

1672
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 4: I got plenty of.

1673
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: Room for sure. This is your house. I think you've

1674
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: moved in here.

1675
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 4: There's no for a couple more weeks. Then there's an

1676
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 4: eviction notice.

1677
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: Shows up and Jason, today your last day in this building.

1678
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: We have this we have this house monitored twenty four

1679
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: to seven, and we notice that you never leave. It's odd,

1680
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 2: It's very odd. There's been a smattering of golfers who

1681
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: come in and out on a Wednesday.

1682
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 4: Noticed a kegger on Saturday?

1683
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: Is that really the case was?

1684
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 3: It looked like a great time.

1685
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: Where was the invite? It's like old school. It's all back,

1686
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 2: Frank the tank in it.

1687
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly all right, gentlemen. It's higher or lower. Presented

1688
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 4: by Keeping fun Ohio from the Ohio Lottery, who reminds

1689
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 4: you to note the risks before you gamble. Obviously with

1690
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 4: brown senior staff writer Anthony Poise out this week. It

1691
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 4: is part one, all right, a breaking down Chris Simpson's

1692
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 4: top forty QB rankings. We'll do twenty one to forty

1693
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 4: today and next week we'll do number one through number twenties.

1694
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 4: What is he? I love it already, get it going, Paulus,

1695
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 4: hit it higher, poor lower, all right to number twenty

1696
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 4: one right off the get go. It is Tua ap high. Yeah,

1697
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 4: it's a girl.

1698
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: I just would like to I want to comment on

1699
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 3: this one because I think this is crazy, just after

1700
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 3: just making it. No no, because I was I wasn't listed.

1701
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: In this one.

1702
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 4: No uh ap Tua number twenty one here.

1703
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 7: I think we're all in agreement here that this needs

1704
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 7: to be way higher. I think this is probably the

1705
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 7: biggest outlier or worst rank of a quarterback on this list.

1706
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 7: Twenty one, and you look at twenty it's Mac Jones

1707
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 7: at twenty. You're to say that you would have Mac

1708
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 7: Jones over Tua who we understand. Yes, we talked about

1709
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 7: last week bo and a lot of times, the health

1710
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 7: issues and everything, but you can't you can't knock Tua

1711
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 7: for those issues on a QB rankings list and so

1712
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 7: for him to be at twenty one makes zero sense

1713
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 7: to me, way way way higher, and I think, I.

1714
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only thing is like, if you're

1715
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: going to put him twenty one or wherever he has.

1716
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 4: Him, which I number twenty one, okay.

1717
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 2: Whatever, If you're going to have him there, then what

1718
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: you have to say is you have to say that

1719
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: he's here because of injury, because I don't know if

1720
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: he's gonna play. Are we okay, yeah, I'm just telling

1721
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 2: all sorts of these moments there you go, like, I think,

1722
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: if you're saying, if you're gonna have him twenty one,

1723
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: then you need to say he's here because I don't

1724
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: know if he'll play ten games, and essentially you're judging

1725
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: his situation more than you are his play. If it's

1726
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: just his play. This is absolutely it's absurd.

1727
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: There's no descriptions on this right way to like I'm

1728
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: sure he talks about him.

1729
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 4: He does in his podcast. He breaks down every single game.

1730
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 3: Here's the reason I guess Fantasy rankings. You're not saying, oh,

1731
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 3: but I don't know game like if he's saying, I

1732
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna get eight sixteen seventeen games out of

1733
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 3: mac Jones.

1734
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: I'd rather have seventeen games out of mac Jones than

1735
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: eight games out of Tua. Then that's a hill he

1736
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: can die on. But I'm giving him that, ammo. I

1737
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: don't know if he's using it or not. If he's

1738
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: just saying how they play, then it's laughable, that's what.

1739
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 2: That's the same.

1740
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean last year too, of sixty five percent completions,

1741
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: twenty five touchdowns, okay to some of these other ones

1742
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 3: led the league in touchdown percentage, yards per attempt, air

1743
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 3: yards per attempt, yards per completion, and quarterback ratings. I

1744
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 3: mean there's Mac Jones doesn't have a peak that approaches that. No,

1745
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 3: And I saw it firsthand when we went down there

1746
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: to Miami Lice this year.

1747
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: He lit us up. Well, I remember you texted me

1748
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 2: the other way when you were in New England and

1749
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: you're like with with mac Jones, like, dude, no, not

1750
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 2: feeling it, No, not feeling it. Don't feel it with

1751
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 2: mac Jon's.

1752
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 4: I think he was that day, But that's neither here

1753
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 4: nor there.

1754
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: Their defense outschooled us that day.

1755
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 4: Next higher lower number twenty two is Jimmy Garoppolo. Number

1756
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 4: twenty three is our next visit on the Chris Sims

1757
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 4: Top forty QB rankings. Justin Fields, mister Bishop lead us

1758
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 4: off higher lower or just right?

1759
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Like again this kind of comes back

1760
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 2: to mac Jones, Like I don't think anybody would take

1761
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: mac Jones over Fields, But I also think Fields was

1762
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 2: borderline broken in Chicago, and I I'm curious to see

1763
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: what he looks like this year. I mean, they've it's

1764
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 2: been the first year with Naggy it was malfeasance. They've

1765
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: never had talent around him. They've added a lot of talent.

1766
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: Now will they put him in a position to succeed?

1767
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: That is the real question here. There's nobody below him

1768
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 2: that I think you got to move up. It's more

1769
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 2: about who's ahead of him. Like I would take Fields

1770
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 2: over Piket. Well, I mean, he's got purty. I don't

1771
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: know what I think. Well, let's say this, like I

1772
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 2: think if you if you put Fields in that San

1773
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 2: Francisco operation, it would be more dangerous than Perty, is

1774
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 2: my opinion. I don't know. They didn't lose the guy,

1775
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: I understand, but that's he was pretty efficient.

1776
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 3: Questions It's a Field is more dynamic. There's no doubt

1777
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 3: what he did running the ball last year was crazy.

1778
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 3: But to run Kyle's offense really the way that you

1779
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 3: need to be able to put.

1780
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 2: The ball on.

1781
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: He did that.

1782
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 2: It's Ohio state, So what the hell happened?

1783
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: He has not done that in the NFL.

1784
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I would have him. I would

1785
01:23:59,479 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 2: pick him.

1786
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 4: Over Zagura, higher, lower, or just right.

1787
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: He's got baked twenty four, which, for God's Sikes is wild.

1788
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 3: I mean, look at the pretty thing again, it becomes

1789
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 3: how much of that is Kyle?

1790
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: How much is that their offense? What do you really

1791
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: think about all of these things?

1792
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 3: Fields? I would just from a specimen standpoint and from

1793
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: an upside standpoint, I think that he's probably.

1794
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: Ranked just right.

1795
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 3: You know, we've seen Jimmy G take teams the Super

1796
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 3: Bowls and championship games. He doesn't lose when he's healthy either,

1797
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 3: So to me, that feels like in his mind the cutoff. Again,

1798
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: Mac Jones does not belong in the group ahead.

1799
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: Of Tua or Jimmy G.

1800
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 3: But I think that this Fields is the upside guy

1801
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: of everybody else for sure?

1802
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 7: Is this a.

1803
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: Do you think this is like? Because Chris and Kyle

1804
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 2: are tight, they both played in Texas together. Is this

1805
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: like him saying Kyle's even smarter? Like, is that kind

1806
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 2: of in the back recesses of his mind that Kyle's

1807
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: doing this with incompetent quarterbacks? Basically like giving even more juice.

1808
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 4: I will find I will find his disc ription of

1809
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 4: mac Jones, and I will play it for us tomorrow. Yeah,

1810
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 4: I have. I can't just play it off the win

1811
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 4: because you got to edit up.

1812
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just it's hard for me to imagine

1813
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 3: a scenario where mac Jones is ahead of two of

1814
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 3: Jimmy Fields.

1815
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right, next higher poor lower. I'm gonna

1816
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 4: skip Picket at twenty five and let's get Brock party

1817
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 4: because the girl thinks he should be higher. Do you

1818
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 4: guys think he should be higher? Poisel, I'll start with you.

1819
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 7: You know, he's so tough the rank on this list,

1820
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 7: I feel like, but I would probably move him up

1821
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 7: over Kenny Pickett, and would move him up over Baker Mayfield.

1822
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 7: I'd probably have him right behind Justin Fields. I think

1823
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 7: they probably belong right right around the same spot on

1824
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 7: this list. But I don't see why after what you

1825
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 7: saw last year from Kenny Pickett, what we've seen the

1826
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 7: last couple of years from Baker Mayfield, how you would

1827
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 7: have brock Party.

1828
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 2: Behind them on a list like this.

1829
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 3: I mean brock Party went seven to zher He. The

1830
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 3: only game they lost was the NFC Championship where he

1831
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 3: got knocked out a mediately. Basically even in the playoffs

1832
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 3: in the playoffs last year, basically it was again. These

1833
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: are two game totals sixty five five hundred and sixty

1834
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: nine yards, three touchdowns, no picks, ten yards a nine

1835
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 3: yards an attempt, and a quarterback rating of one ten.

1836
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 7: I mean like at some point, regardless of what you

1837
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 7: think of the offense, that's phenomenal, Like there's nothing else.

1838
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 2: I think the counter to it. All of that's true.

1839
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 2: I think the counter would be he's been he's asked

1840
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 2: to do the least of almost anybody. Now he does

1841
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 2: it at an elite level, but it's one hundred and

1842
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: fifty yards a game. He's not having to. You know,

1843
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: the thing we always go back to, can he go

1844
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 2: win it for you with his arm when you know

1845
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 2: that they're going to throw their offense is based on

1846
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 2: so like that's that next level? Does he have that? Potentially?

1847
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: We have no damn clue. We have no clue he started.

1848
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah he went, you know, So it's he's a really

1849
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: tough evaluation. He was extraordinary in a in a short

1850
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: amount of time. I'm trying to think.

1851
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 3: Even numbers is not act.

1852
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 2: That's counting that like ninety four, Like yeah, you're right,

1853
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 2: you're right. Yeah, there was five when he the five.

1854
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 3: You had two ten two touchdowns on a pick one

1855
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 3: to eighty five, two touchdowns, no picks, two seventeen two touchdowns,

1856
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 3: no picks, two thirty four two touchdowns, a pick two

1857
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 3: eighty four, two touchdowns on a pick one seventy eight

1858
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, no picks, they're too touchdown four picks.

1859
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: He multiple scores, not every game, there's not like a

1860
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: three to nineteen, you know.

1861
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 3: Well, and then a forty two type game Seattle, first

1862
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 3: round of the playoffs and they win forty one twenty three.

1863
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,799
Speaker 3: He goes for three thirty two and three touchdowns.

1864
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 2: So that's his that was his one. So he was

1865
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 2: certainly getting better. Yeah, he's a tough one. He's a

1866
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 2: tough evaluation. I don't I think in other sports it's

1867
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: like you think.

1868
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 8: Of other guys who like came out of nowhere, right,

1869
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 8: you know, and the question is right, is he ranking

1870
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 8: these people given the offense and system they play in,

1871
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 8: or is he saying if you drop them into any yeah, situation.

1872
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 4: I think it's his top forty quarter, like his just

1873
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 4: his top forty going into the year.

1874
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: Right, then he's drug and then he struck.

1875
01:27:58,439 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 4: That's what it is. That's our boy.

1876
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: Next. I mean like low, he's got so like he's

1877
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: got the guys at the top of this draft, like

1878
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 2: he's got seage.

1879
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 4: My question for you, bo Bishop, uh, the rookies here,

1880
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 4: Richardson at thirty six, Stroud at thirty seven, Bryce Young

1881
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 4: at thirty eight. Which rookie would you rank the highest?

1882
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,879
Speaker 4: And how how high would.

1883
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,879
Speaker 3: You put the drafted a running back eighth overall?

1884
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how you could have. I understand their rookies,

1885
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: I get it. But like, I mean, he has the

1886
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: starter in Atlanta, ritter behind the backup in Atlanta. Heineke. Yes,

1887
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 2: he's got Stroud thirty seven, he's got Young thirty eight,

1888
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: He's got Richardson thirty six, all behind Mike White, all

1889
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:53,879
Speaker 2: behind Tyler Huntley, all behind Davis Mills, all behind Jared Stidham.

1890
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Like this is ten ahead of Bryce Young, some of

1891
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 2: this stuff's really silly. I mean, he's got bake all

1892
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 2: theough at twenty four, which is pretty remarkable considering what

1893
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: that's been the last couple of years. So I don't

1894
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 2: know what the hell he's doing here. I don't understand

1895
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 2: the thought process. He obviously likes Richardson best among these rookies,

1896
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: and that's fine. I mean, he's most everybody would say

1897
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 2: he has the most raw talent. I think Stroud's the

1898
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: most ready to go. Young is probably the most accurate,

1899
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: but there's no track record for that size working long term.

1900
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: I mean he's five to eleven point eighty short list.

1901
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with everything both said.

1902
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 7: I I think I'd probably would still have Bryce Young

1903
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 7: ranked higher on this list just the fact that he

1904
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 7: is the first overall pick. He does have probably the

1905
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 7: best college resume of those three quarterbacks. He's Leo over

1906
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 7: Anthony Richardson, the Heinekey over Ritter on this list is

1907
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 7: just by not just just over. There's seven other quarterbacks between.

1908
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 2: That's insane.

1909
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 7: No, I think Huntly being twenty nine is quite honestly laughable.

1910
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 7: It's their their other quarterback.

1911
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 2: Davis Mills seven ahead of think it would be really

1912
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 2: to see where how he ranked him last year or

1913
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: two years ago. But get that in your rundown one

1914
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 2: of these days, give me tomorrow or the next day.

1915
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 2: Like I'd be very curious to see, like how his

1916
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 2: rankings held up. I just because it's just nonsensical.

1917
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 7: I think maybe we should have listened to you know,

1918
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 7: if he does have an explanation for this in.

1919
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 2: The podcast, and that's we just need. He's a big

1920
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 2: guy to see it. Guy, he's a Missouri guy. Yeah,

1921
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: show me state guy that's.

1922
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 3: Probably do more picks than touchdowns last year before I

1923
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 3: know he started four games and only threw for six

1924
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yards with three picks. And he'd be like, oh, yeah,

1925
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: I understand. I'm going to take that over. Bryce Young.

1926
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Speaker 4: It's a true Friday for you.

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Speaker 3: First Friday is a real Friday.

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Speaker 2: Today's not Monday, is it.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So first Friday into it, into it as an

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Speaker 2: actual Friday. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: the restaurants, all that.

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Speaker 2: work all right? Yeah, that to look forward to, among

1951
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Speaker 2: other things. Plus Chris Sim's list, how well did it age?

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