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Speaker 2: Right, So so nice to see you. It's great to

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Speaker 2: see you as well. Y yes, yes, always makes my

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Speaker 2: day better likewise, and my day is already pretty freaking amazing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: because I got an email this morning from Singer. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: and huh, I realized that I have an all time

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Speaker 2: M four ninety one, you know, the nine the super Sports.

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Speaker 1: It's turbo non turbo.

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Speaker 2: Yes exactly. So it's the nine six four with the

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Speaker 2: and turbo breaks, but it has the naturally aspirated moment.

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Speaker 1: It's not a turbo. It's a turbo non turbo.

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Speaker 2: Yes exactly, and I think it's the very best one.

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Speaker 2: You know, our friend Barrier Holds accidentally bought one kind

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Speaker 1: Do that, now do But the point of this not

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Speaker 1: to keep us on point. The point is that Singer,

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Speaker 1: like you said, has announced that they are coming out

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Speaker 1: with one hundred Yes of your of your favorite.

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Speaker 2: Of my all time favorite Portia and Yes, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I love you know, Rob Singer because I love Catherine Wheel,

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Speaker 2: the band that he was in before he got into automotive.

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Speaker 1: But I don't really name singer.

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Speaker 2: But I don't really know that much about the cars

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Speaker 2: they make, Like, what is this not what they were

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what they were doing. This is inspired

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Speaker 1: by the rare wide body variant of the nine to

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Speaker 1: eleven Carrera from the eighties, the type nine to six

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Speaker 2: It's been by Cosworth, Yes, made stiffer by Red Bull Engineering.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in consultation with Red Bull Technologies. This one is

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Speaker 1: they've taken off the turbotel, which I don't feel good about. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: The whale tail needs to be on there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the whaleheel needs to be on.

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Speaker 2: I also saw that the pictures in the press release

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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking this car needs to be in guards red.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a fan of Baby Blue. I don't

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Speaker 1: it's funny when you say, like what it really is, Singer.

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Speaker 1: You know, I got this press release earlier in the

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Speaker 1: week under embargo, and at the bottom of the release

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Speaker 1: there's like a half a page that tells journalists how

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Speaker 1: to correctly refer to our service, because you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a very specific thing. You A Singer is not a Porsche.

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Speaker 1: A Singer is not You cannot call it a nine

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Speaker 2: It's it's nine eleven reimagined by Singer.

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Speaker 1: Right It's a portion nine to eleven Carrera coop reimagined

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Speaker 1: restoration services, you can call it a portion nine to

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Speaker 1: you know, a portion nine eleven reimagined by Singer DLS Turbo.

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Speaker 1: not sponsored, associated, approved, endorsed, or in any way affiliated

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Speaker 2: The other thing is this kind of shoegazing like alternative

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Speaker 2: Catherine Wheel's first record came out in the early nineties,

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Speaker 2: I highly recommend downloading the record.

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Speaker 2: check out Catherine Wheel Chrome. And then there are new

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. It's so nice to meet

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much for having me. It's a pleasure

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Speaker 3: I wonder about living in Monaco.

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Speaker 4: I wish it was like that, but no, no, I moved.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes. I used to do a lot of

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Speaker 4: I have a Ferrari Roma Beautiful. I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 4: Do you notice, beautiful?

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Speaker 2: Do you notice does it annoy you when you don't

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Speaker 4: It's crazy and nothing. No car has impressed me ever

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a big thing in my community

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Speaker 2: How often can you drive on a track? I mean,

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Speaker 4: Of course, I mean we have no limits in other machinery.

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Speaker 4: to feel things that are going on. So those track

439
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: days in road cars are some of the times that

440
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: I've learned the most about my driving and been able

441
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 4: to improve my driving the most, but also the most

442
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: fun as well. You know, I love taking my family

443
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 4: for passenger labs. I'm yet to get my mom in

444
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: the car, but I would love to do that, and

445
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 4: my girlfriend as well.

446
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: But why are they saying no, Why aren't they jumping

447
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: at the chair.

448
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 4: Well, we didn't get the opportunity yet, but the second

449
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 4: it comes around, I'm I'm gonna put my mum in

450
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: the car and lock the door because I think she's

451
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 4: a little bit scared. But I love taking my dad

452
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: on track. I did it once in Magello in a Ferrari.

453
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 4: It was amazing. And you know, when you have people

454
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: like that in the car with you, you're pushing to

455
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 4: the absolute limit to try and get the life out

456
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 4: of them, to the point where sometimes I was scaring

457
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 4: even myself. It was so fun. And yeah, track days

458
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 4: in road cars, even even if you know performance wise

459
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 4: it's nothing that's Formula one, it is so much fun.

460
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 4: And I really say, for.

461
00:23:50,240 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: Those days, what's your favorite track. Do you have a

462
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: favorite one to drive?

463
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: To drive, I really like the street circuits. Monaco is

464
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 4: an obvious choice. You know, it's a very historic track

465
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 4: but one of the most thrilling to drive, just because

466
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: of the risk and the adrenaline. But I also like

467
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 4: some of the more you know, historic tracks Magello springs

468
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 4: to mind, Suzuka, Japan, Silverstone as well. These kind of historic,

469
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 4: well known circuits also a blast to drive around.

470
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: How do you deal with the risk?

471
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: I mean, do you try not to think about the

472
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: potential of a crash? Is it something that you can't

473
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: not think about?

474
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: I honestly, I think if you're thinking about it, then

475
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 4: you're already, you know, slower than the next guy. When

476
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 4: I'm in the car, risk or fear is not even

477
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 4: on my mind because I'm sure in my ability, and

478
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: you know, going will to will with the other drivers

479
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 4: is not a risk in my eyes, because you trust,

480
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 4: You put a lot of trust in them and they

481
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 4: do to you as well. And there's a there's a

482
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 4: very high level of respect between us as drivers because

483
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 4: you know, then we're the ones who are going out

484
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 4: there every weekend and risking our lives. But you know,

485
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: on the track, it's not really something that's that's in

486
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: your mind. But then again, you know, off the circuit,

487
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 4: we're looking at everything as drivers, everything we can to

488
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: improve the safety of the sport because that's what we want.

489
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: We want to be able to race as hard as

490
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: we can and not fear crash. And with the way

491
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: that the safety developments are going, we're really making fantastic progress.

492
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned the camaraderie of drivers. Have you had anyone

493
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: in particular offer you some great advice just as you know,

494
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: coming up through the ranks. I'd love to know, you know,

495
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: who's really said do this, don't do that, or watch

496
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: out for this thing.

497
00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

498
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, once you're in there, you're pretty much racing

499
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: against everyone. So as much as your your friends, they're

500
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 4: not They're not easy to give to get advice from,

501
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: because you know the end, everything that they give away

502
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: is lost almost But I'm really happy that they've been

503
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 4: very welcoming. You know, there's a there's a few of

504
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: US rookies this year, and everyone has been super welcoming

505
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: and and really kind and respectful to us as well.

506
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 4: And it's really a pleasure to share the circuit with

507
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 4: so many historic and talented drivers. You know a lot

508
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: of them who I've watched in my in my younger

509
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: years growing up, So it's really cool.

510
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: It must be so mild with these guys.

511
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, what what is it like to be racing

512
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: against the people that you were, you know, watching on

513
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: TV as as a younger driver.

514
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 4: It's quite insane, especially you know, like Lewis, Fernando Alonso,

515
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 4: these guys were racing when I was born, almost and

516
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 4: every single Left One race I've watched has featured one

517
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: of them pretty much. But even you know, the guys

518
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: who seem younger, like Max, you know, twenty sixteen, he's

519
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 4: been in Formula one. I think even twenty fifteen, that

520
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 4: was when I was ten years old, so pretty much

521
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: my whole life that I can remember, I've been watching

522
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: these guys on TV. So now to share the track

523
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 4: with them in a way is very special and it's

524
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: definitely a dream come true.

525
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: That means you have, judging by Lewis's career, at least

526
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: another twenty one years in this sport, right.

527
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 4: I do hope, So I do hope. So you know,

528
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 4: he's proven to be one of the best that the

529
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 4: sport has ever seen. And if you can have that

530
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: level of motivation and performance, then I don't see why not.

531
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: I hope I'm able to perform at anywhere near a

532
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 4: level that he has to have such longevity in the sport.

533
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: But at the moment, it's such a huge passion of

534
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: mine that I want to perform as well as I

535
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 4: can and stay here for as long as possible.

536
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: I think you're with Ferrari Driving Academy in Italy. Now

537
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: you're with Hawes, an American team, but you're British. Can

538
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: you just talk a little bit about what is it

539
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: like now with an American team? I mean you've got

540
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: such an international background, what's the culture like? How has

541
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: it been sort of blending in melding with that.

542
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a lot of change. You know. First

543
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: of all, jumping to a Formula one team, there's so

544
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 4: many stuff. That's what I'm used to. Formula two. We

545
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: had maybe twelve, twelve to fifteen personnel, and you can

546
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: add a zero to that number for the Formula one team,

547
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: so it's insane to remember these people and everyone is

548
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: so specialized within Formula one, whereas in Formula two with

549
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: such little staff, everyone pretty much does everything so it's

550
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: definitely a big change. I've been used to working with

551
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: Italian people for a long time and it's different. You know.

552
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 4: Now we have a predominantly British team in terms of

553
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: members and personnel, which is nice for me because you know,

554
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: being British as there's always that extra relationship there. But

555
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: the guys have been super motivating to me and they've

556
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: really helped me, you know, build up on that experience

557
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: that I naturally miss out on being a rookie.

558
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: Does everybody ride bikes?

559
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 2: You mentioned cycling is your other sport, Yeah, it just

560
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: I mean I imagine that is recommended to help you

561
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: with auto rates racing.

562
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 3: But does everybody ride ride bikes to practice?

563
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean there's a few of us, and if

564
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 4: you go to the circuit on a Thursday, you'll see

565
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: a lot of drivers doing a little training session around

566
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: the circuit on their bikes. I tend to ride a

567
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: little bit with a few other drivers, like Carlos Signs.

568
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: I've just helped Gabriel bal Toleta. I've persuaded him to

569
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: get a bike, so I'm going to get him out

570
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: there very soon. I think for me it's the best

571
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: way to train because you can stay in the same

572
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: heart rate zone as you are in the in the car,

573
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: you know, for two hours at a time. So it's

574
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: great and with all the amazing places we get to visit,

575
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: it's great scenery. So it would be silly to miss

576
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: out on that.

577
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: What's the zone? Where's your heart rate when you're in

578
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: a race?

579
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: It depends normally in a practice session, so if I'm

580
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: doing like a race simulation, my heart rate is around

581
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: one five, But jumping into a race, naturally that's up

582
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: at one sixty just because of the extra adrenaline. So

583
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: you know, you're burning close to two thousand calories during

584
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: the race, and the adrenaline just makes your heart rate

585
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: ten fifteen bpm higher. And also want a qualifying lap,

586
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: it tends to get even higher than that, just because

587
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: you're giving everything for a very short time and you're

588
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: not really thinking about breathing. You know, you're super focused,

589
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: and especially on those street tracks, the adrenaline can be insane.

590
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: It's nuts.

591
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm really curious. Yeah, I mean, talk a little bit

592
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: about the Miami track. Obviously it's not through the streets,

593
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: but you mentioned humidity and heat in Miami. Are you

594
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: doing anything specific to help manage what might be a

595
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: very hot race this weekend.

596
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's certainly going to be a hot race. There's

597
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: not much we can do against it. You know, the

598
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: humidity is the most influential factor in terms of your

599
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: body temperature and the physicality of a race, and this

600
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 4: is one of the more humid races of the season.

601
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: It's just because with you know, with the layers that

602
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: we're wearing, there's not much circulation of air. I can't

603
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: really wear a race foot on the bike, but I

604
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 4: try to, you know, keep myself warm and sweat it

605
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: all out. The good thing is that we can come

606
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: here a few days early and get used to the humidity.

607
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: Acclimatization is really important and definitely definitely for the later races.

608
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: You know, one one that stands out is Singapore, that's

609
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: one of the most amount races of the season. Yeah,

610
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: it's really important to get there a bit before, get

611
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: training in the heat, even if it's running or cycling.

612
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: Just getting your body used to, you know, losing that

613
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 4: amount of water. It's really useful.

614
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm surprised no one's developed a cooling suit.

615
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a new development that we have so

616
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: it's in early early kind of trials, but we've been

617
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: able to use that in a few practice sessions so

618
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: far this year, and this has been quite a game

619
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: changer for us, you know, in terms of in terms

620
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: of cooling. But it's very difficult to keep it cool

621
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: for the entire race, you know, for two hours that

622
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: the car gets so hot at the moment it's it's

623
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: kind of a block of ice with cold water running

624
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: through it. But you know, as the laughs go on,

625
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: it warms up and the ice melts. So yeah, but

626
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: it's been really really good to try this. I tried

627
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: it in Saudi, you know, that's a night race, so

628
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: it's a little bit easier. But I expect Miami to

629
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: be a big physical challenge. And even if the circuit

630
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: itself isn't the most demanding physically, it's not got a

631
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: lot of high speed corners or hygi areas, there's still

632
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: a lot of walls close by, and you need one

633
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: hundred percent focus for that entire time, and it's tough

634
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: to stay, you know, fully on it with that amount

635
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: of temperature and sweat. Yeah, it's not easy.

636
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: Ali, I want to ask about rule changes or I

637
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: don't know the car design the formula, Like, is there

638
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: anything that if you were the boss, or if you

639
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: could raise any kind of formula, would you change anything.

640
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: I think between us as drivers there's a bit of

641
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: a push towards the FIA, which kind of decide, you know,

642
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: how the cars look and how the direction of the

643
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: of the regulations go. We're kind of pushing to make

644
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: the cars a bit lighter because over the last ten

645
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: years we've gained a lot of weight, you know, including

646
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: the hybrid system, the cars have gotten bigger and just

647
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: a bit less nim and you know, I've done a

648
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: few test days with slightly older Formula One cars and

649
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: even just thirty forty kilos is quite a game changer

650
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: in terms of weight, and at the moment where probably

651
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty kilos heavier than we would like

652
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 4: to be than we were maybe ten or fifteen years ago.

653
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: Of course, some of that is coming from the increased safety,

654
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: but I think the push from the drivers is to

655
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: have slightly lighter and more nimble cars and a bit

656
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: smaller ones as well, because you know, sometimes when we

657
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: get to these tight street circuits, nothing happens because the

658
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: cars are too big and too heavy. That you can't

659
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 4: really do anything with them. So that's really the main

660
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: target over the next five or so years. I think

661
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: that's what we want as drivers, and I think it

662
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 4: will make the racing even better as.

663
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Well, the risk of asking the obvious. Lighter and more

664
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: nimble means you can do more passing, right, which is

665
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: more exciting.

666
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. And it's really difficult to have

667
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: take at the moment. The cause heavy and that makes

668
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 4: the tires overheat quite easily. When you're following other cars.

669
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: You can't really do many different lines in the slow

670
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 4: corners because the causes are too heavy to do that.

671
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 4: So I think that's why I really believe that with

672
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: a lighter car the racing would be even better, because

673
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 4: at the moment it's great, but I think we have

674
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: a step to do that.

675
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean this kind of follows on that note. What

676
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: do you think about the other series? I mean, obviously

677
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: Formula one is the pinnacle, Apex predator of automotive racing,

678
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: But do you ever watch you know, NASCAR or Indie

679
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 2: or Supercar or any of the other Moto GP for example,

680
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: Is there anything.

681
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: Else endurance races?

682
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

683
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a big fan of racing in general, so

684
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 4: you know, I try to watch as much as possible

685
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 4: formerly E as well. I'm yeah a big fan of

686
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: Motiport and a lot of my kind of friends or

687
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: people that I've met over the years are in these

688
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: different championships formerly E Whack IndyCar, and you know, they

689
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: provide some entertaining racing as well, which is fantastic, particularly

690
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: you know the Indy five hundred La Mon twenty four.

691
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: These are standout races that I would not miss for

692
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 4: a thing. But even you know, the old IndyCar race,

693
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: I try my best to tune in. Of course, the

694
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: timings aren't easy being in America. Yeah, it's it's really

695
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: cool and some of the things I'm doing over there

696
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: is a fantastic as well. And yeah, the racing looks

697
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: really cool, which is what I like as a racing fan.

698
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: It must have been so interesting for you to see,

699
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: sort of. I mean, we talk about a lot this

700
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: rise of the popularity of Formula one to really grow

701
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: in the US. Obviously it's been massive in Europe and

702
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: for years and years, but it is sort of a

703
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: new thing to like big US populations. What do you

704
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: make of that? I mean, is it like, Wow, we're

705
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: finally waking up to it or I don't know, I'd love.

706
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 4: To hear I think so. I mean, Netflix has done

707
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: a fantastic job for our sport in terms of advertising it,

708
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: especially to the US market. You know, now we have

709
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: three races in the US, or I guess five if

710
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 4: you include Mexico and Canada, you know, and five races

711
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: in North America, which is really really cool, and you know,

712
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 4: in some really fantastic locations Vegas here in Miami now

713
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: as well. It's it's really really cool. And I'm glad

714
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: that F one is getting the exposure that it deserves

715
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 4: in the US because it's a huge market, a huge audience,

716
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: and I think we can, we can continue to bring

717
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: fantastic racing to the US market, and hopefully they can

718
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 4: they have someone to cheer for this weekend as well.

719
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: Well. We will be cheering for you for sure.

720
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 4: Ali.

721
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: It's really been so nice talking with you. Thank you

722
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: for making the time.

723
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Thank you so much.

724
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: Good luck.

725
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: Are you not going to the race? Are you not going? No?

726
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going this year.

727
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: Weird because I think about Miami and I think about

728
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Formula one and I think about, what's that Italian restaurant

729
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: that has like the pop up down.

730
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: There, Gibriani no Carbone.

731
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: Carbone, Yes, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Aren't they the one

732
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: that has like the thousand dollars ahead? Yes, And I

733
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: feel like you're there.

734
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've I've been there. I've been there.

735
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of okay not going this year. I've

736
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: gone in the past and it is really fun. And

737
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: I have friends in Miami that I love seeing. But

738
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you have to prioritize where you're traveling

739
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: because I've got a child, I've got a dog. I

740
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: can't just travel all the time everywhere. So this was

741
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: one of the times where I thought, I'm I'm going

742
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: to pass on that, but I will be following along. Yeah,

743
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to plan to go for sure

744
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: to the Vegas Race. I actually really genuinely enjoy going

745
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: to the race in Vegas. It's so easy for an

746
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: F one race to get around.

747
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I mean, I've been to a couple

748
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: of F one races and they were kind of like

749
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: life changing experiences because they were my first big automotive

750
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: racing experiences, like I hadn't ever been to NASCAR or

751
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: anything like that before either. I think I went to

752
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: my first race at Hawkenheim Ring in two thousand, okay,

753
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: so twenty five years ago, and it's the sound and

754
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: the way it hits you in the chest that to

755
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: me was like the most yeah, jaw dropping thing.

756
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: It's true, it's really an assault on the senses. And

757
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: if you are, like if you go to qualifying and

758
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: you go to the race and you're out there all

759
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: day in the elements. I just remember anytime I've gone

760
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: coming back to the hotel and being completely shot, Like

761
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: your senses are just kind of like the sun, the noise,

762
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: just everything. The alcohol. Yeah, it's just a lot on

763
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: your body.

764
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: No, it's like a fish. It's like going to a

765
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: fish concert for sure. And there's no like downtime. There's

766
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: no relaxing part of it.

767
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: And it is really exciting.

768
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: But the thing is, I don't feel like I need

769
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: to go anymore, Like even if I get into Formula

770
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: one again, which probably isn't going to happen. You know what,

771
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: if you just follow yeah, I'll just follow him. But yeah,

772
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: I still wouldn't want to go necessarily to the races

773
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: because it's you get a much better picture of the

774
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: situation watching it on TV.

775
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: Completely, Like, honestly, I learned so much more listening to

776
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: the announcers on TV that like, yeah, unless you're even

777
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: even when I've been in the press pool at Formula one,

778
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: and that's a whole different thing. You're literally in a

779
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: back conference room watching it on TV like you're at

780
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: the race. But a lot of a lot of guys

781
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: and ladies just watch the race on TV in the

782
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: press room.

783
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean we go to motor racing, yeah, and when

784
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: we lived in Europe, we were going to all of

785
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: them on the continent, and that was because of the

786
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: sense of community, like yes, you know, we know the

787
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: people on the teams and the drivers, the pilots, and

788
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: but when it comes to race time, yes, I'm in

789
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: front of the TV. So I'm happy to walk around

790
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: the path, like I'm happy to say hi to everybody.

791
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm happy to look at all the new bikes and

792
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: be in the in the you know, the areas where

793
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: they uh where they show new products and stuff. But

794
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: when it comes to the actual race, I just want

795
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: to sit in front of the big screen, same.

796
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: Same, And it's honestly, it's tough because a lot of

797
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: the time, a lot of the other really nice people

798
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: at the race are not there, either working or actually

799
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: interested in watching, so they are trying to chat with

800
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: you and like party and have and it's really distracting.

801
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm the same, I'd rather just like have some headphones

802
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: on and really focus. It's true.

803
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you got going on this weekend? Then?

804
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: What are you? And will are doing? Well?

805
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: Willow and I are prepping the house because next week

806
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: Magnus is eighty something year old mother and his niece

807
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: are coming to stay with us for two weeks, so

808
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna have house guests. They're coming from Scotland and England,

809
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: and so this weekend is all about, you know, doing

810
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: some laundry and the cleaning and getting ready. But the

811
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: fun thing is we are going to take them to Vegas,

812
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: which will be really fun and exciting. Neave, the niece

813
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: has never been to California, never been to Vegas.

814
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: Amazing, she's eighteen, amazing.

815
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so we're kind of in prep mode for that.

816
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: Actually, I love showing young adults like these amazing cities.

817
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: And I guess she's probably well, she's probably the right age,

818
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: but not with you. I feel like in Vegas what

819
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: you want to do is shrooms and then go to like.

820
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: May we need to see who's playing the spear. I mean,

821
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: I got to check that check schedule. Yeah, so I

822
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: don't know. We're going to take some drives. We're gonna

823
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: drive to Vegas for one thing, but we're also going

824
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: to take some drives just around.

825
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: What will you drive to Vegas?

826
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: Actually getting a press car. It's a Mercedes. It's going

827
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: to be one of the e electric sedans, the EQS,

828
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: So that will be a very interesting drive.

829
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: I think.

830
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to make it on one charge.

831
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: Actually probably not, but I think it charges quickly, the EQS.

832
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you've driven it before, but I it's

833
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: very luxurious to me. It's like slipping into.

834
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: Another and they didn't do you know, those cars didn't

835
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: do great for Mercedes, but I thought they were good.

836
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: They are very luxurious.

837
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: I always say this, but it's like it's like a

838
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: Moroccan palace because on the outside it doesn't look like

839
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: anything at all, right, and when you get inside, you're.

840
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, that's this is amazing.

841
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: I have I'm also test driving a Mercedes and Electric

842
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: Mercedes this weekend. It just showed up my driveway this morning,

843
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: but I haven't turned it on yet, but it won't

844
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: make any noise obviously. It's the g g oh oh.

845
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear what you think.

846
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about it.

847
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: To be are, yes, I feel like you're gonna feel

848
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: a lot of different feelings. Yeah, like are you going

849
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: into it any which way in your mind?

850
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: Well, So, I had an interesting experience in that I

851
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: drove the Cadillac Escalade IQ, this giant electrical thing that

852
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: I've been looking forward to for so long.

853
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: We had a slight disagreement on that, and I didn't.

854
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: Really like it that much. I mean, I love being

855
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: in a big, giant Cadillac because it's obviously incredibly luxurious.

856
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: I didn't love the driving experience at all, to be honest.

857
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: And then last week I had I drove kind of

858
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: the opposite thing in the same category. I drove the

859
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: Nissan Armada, which is which shouldn't be terribly luxurious, right

860
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: It has like black plastic buttons. It feels like an

861
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: uber kind of but I one hundred percent love the

862
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: body on frame, like truck feeling of it. There's something

863
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: nostalgic about it. It was handling really well, and I

864
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: didn't even mind the turbocharged whatever six cylinder motor, which

865
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: wasn't impressive, but it was just like I was driving

866
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: a truck, you know, and internal combustion engine truck, and

867
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: I really really liked it, even though it had so

868
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: many flaws. The interior is not designed well, you know,

869
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: the front end definitely looks like it's got Japanese styling,

870
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: which doesn't really work on this big kind of range

871
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Speaker 2: rover sized truck. But I just really liked it. I

872
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: think I liked it even more because it was in

873
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: comparison to this electric probably escalade.

874
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Speaker 1: So I don't know, interesting, So now the G will

875
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: be really interesting.

876
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: You know how much I love the gas version of

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Speaker 2: the G Wagon and the previous G five hundred slash

878
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: G five point fifty with the four liter V eight,

879
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: I loved it. I lived with it for two years

880
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: and thirty thousand miles, and so I don't know how'm

881
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: Gonya feel about the electric.

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00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Do you have any trails around where you live that

883
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: you can actually make it off road a bit?

884
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: I have that off road road. Remember when I had

885
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: the Lamborghini Hurrican Strado and they said I wasn't allowed

886
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: to take it off road. So then my neighbor Eric

887
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: found the oldest unpaved road in America, the New Albany

888
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: Post Road. So I suppose I could take it up there.

889
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: You should try. You should just just to try it.

890
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: But there's that three hundred and sixty degree you know,

891
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: like party trick that it does.

892
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: What does it? Oh?

893
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: All, yeah, like goes like that.

894
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's going to be amazing.

895
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll be really into it. I like other electric vehicles.

896
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: I always tell people I love the EV nine and

897
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: you like it too, and so I do. And I

898
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: love the I loved the Hummer, I loved the GMC

899
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: Sierra EV. So I like big electric trucks.

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Speaker 1: M yeah, for the most part. Oh well, you know

901
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Speaker 1: I I I'm not against Eve's, but I am against

902
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: doing something for no reason. I'll put it that way.

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00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 4: Yep.

904
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: Like I I would be happy if everyone rode bicycles

905
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: everywhere and then we just had a few vintage cars

906
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: to drive for fun. I mean, I don't I'm not like,

907
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: on the face of it, I don't need a car

908
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: to be happy. This is why I say I'm not

909
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: actually a car person.

910
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be happy. And I don't want anyone riding

911
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 2: bicycles on the road.

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00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: I think everyone should just ride a bicycle and then

913
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: everyone is allotted one vintage car to drive on the weekend.

914
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Speaker 2: I feel differently about this thing.

915
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: I know you do, but I mean, don't you think

916
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: the reason why Holland has all these high happiness ratings

917
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: is because they all ride bikes.

918
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's because weed has been legal

919
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: for so long.

920
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: There, right, tomato, tomato?

921
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Speaker 2: All right, So I hope you had an excellent weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to uh go home and get into this

924
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: g I eighty and see what I think. And I'm

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00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: going to watch Ali Bermonty hopefully do well in F

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Speaker 2: one in Miami.

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Speaker 1: I think he's doing so great his first year out and.

928
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Speaker 2: He's only a little kid. What is he like nineteen?

929
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: He's nineteen. Yeah, it's crazy.

930
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: To be nice. You should introduce him to your niece.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, actually, yes, okay, noted, noted, I'm writing that down.

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Speaker 1: Yeve call me.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Miller and.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hannah Elliott. And this is Bloomberg