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Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is

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Speaker 1: Mick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 1: the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola. And it is eleven thirty

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday. And you know what that means. It's

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Speaker 1: time for another edition of mix Shots. It's an OTA,

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Speaker 1: the first Ota edition of mix Shots inside the STUBC

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Speaker 1: podcast studio. And ah, there's Everson's favorite song right there, right,

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Speaker 1: Everson Baby, that is bit there it is. It's a

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Speaker 1: victory Thursday here inside the st we're playing it, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with it for old time, same football.

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Speaker 1: There are football players on a football field here at

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Speaker 1: the Start in Frisco, and we have all members of

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Speaker 1: mix Shots here right. So ya were here last week?

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Speaker 1: Last we were here last week? He was better watch

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Speaker 1: out because Chris Hall took your spot? And oh did

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Speaker 1: compliments for having Chris Hall on. He did? He welcome

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Speaker 1: and get compliments from about having Bill on or ever

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Speaker 1: I was here last time. So though that's like when

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Speaker 1: you bring somebody new it, right, they're used to the

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Speaker 1: pit be careful, so Chris, no, you're not because I

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Speaker 1: any danger, no, no, whatsoever. That's why Christians run with it,

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Speaker 1: was kind of busy last week. Yeah, where were you?

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Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco, you were in town. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's um, we had to have you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: Francios Well two years ago? Okay, yeah, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I won't bring up the other times that you've been there.

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Speaker 1: was telling the story. Uh you know, of course, the

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Speaker 1: been the first time ever in San Francisco was when

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys played the Niners in the NFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 1: Into the ninety two season, I spent a week out there,

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Speaker 1: uh previewing good time and in fact, Everson we went

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Speaker 1: to Dwight Clark's restaurant there in San Francisco as we

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Speaker 1: greatest football game I've ever gone to. NFC title thing

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Speaker 1: notes from observed yesterday during OTA's. Yes Uh, it was

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Speaker 1: looking at these roosters here, this this jersey, So all

451
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Speaker 1: these guys. Kelvin Joseph's got number one, Jordan Lewis's jersey.

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Speaker 1: He was your number last year. Yeah, I know. And

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Speaker 1: now you've got some guy named Israel muh number twenty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he seventh round picked last year. He was in his

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Speaker 1: I think a thirty. Where do you come from? South Carolina?

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Speaker 1: South Carolina? Yeah, he played corner in safety in college

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Speaker 1: at South Carolina and they moved him to safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm looking at kid, big guy. But yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So Kelvin Joseph's wearing number one, Jordan Lewis is now

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Speaker 1: wearing number two, Anthony Brown is now wearing number three,

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Speaker 1: and other dbs of course, Donovan Wilson last year War

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Speaker 1: six and Treyvon seven. So what do you think about

463
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: the single digit dbs. I love it, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I call I called the corny earlier. But anything that

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Speaker 1: can confuse quarterbacks, I love it. They don't know where

466
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Speaker 1: they're coming from, they don't know whose numbers who I

467
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: think I'm more I'm more happy with the linebackers having

468
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Speaker 1: these small, low numbers because that really confuses a lot

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. You got Michael Pauses up there, is he

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Speaker 1: gonna be linebacker or a defensive end? Then you got

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Speaker 1: uh Wilson Dophin. Wilson might come up and show in

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Speaker 1: a blitz, then he might be back in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the field. You know, you've got Jabril Cox number fourteen.

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Speaker 1: You know what linebacker was? Number fourteen? He can't be

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Speaker 1: a linebacker. Oh there's the blitz. You see what I'm saying.

476
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Speaker 1: So that's why Tom Brady was complaining. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I really If I

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Speaker 1: would have been able to do that, I would have

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Speaker 1: kept my number nine from Grammy state you are number nine,

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Speaker 1: number nine? Who had nine when you were here? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Anybody no Mitch Hoops? Yeah, beat somebody like Mitch. So

482
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: this was this was. This was funny when we were

483
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Speaker 1: talking to Cede lamb Uh. His locker now is next

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Speaker 1: to Das at Dak's request. Uh. And so somebody said, well,

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Speaker 1: where was your locker And I was thinking, yeah, where

486
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Speaker 1: was it? And he mentioned, oh, it's over there where

487
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Braylon Jones is. And I'm going, I don't remember seeing

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Speaker 1: him there. It's like, no, because I wasn't in the

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Speaker 1: locker room his first two years in the National Football All.

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Speaker 1: That's right because of COVID uh in twenty twenty, right,

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Speaker 1: so I have no idea where his stuff was. And

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Speaker 1: may Cooper, Ah, so he's replaced you and so did

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Speaker 1: they have a ceremony? Yeah? So, And then I was

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00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: looking for Dalton Scholtz. Well, the last time I would

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Speaker 1: have talked to Dalton Scholtz in the locker room, he

496
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Speaker 1: was next to the little walkway that goes into the

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Speaker 1: showers stalls, right. I looked over there and it's like, well,

498
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Speaker 1: where's Dalton Schultz. Well, he's way down the other end

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00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: of the of the locker room. And then dawned on

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Speaker 1: the other side of that, and then it dawned on me.

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00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you know, other than when I was

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Speaker 1: here with the rookies. I hadn't been in the locker

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Speaker 1: room with the veterans the last well, it had been

504
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: the day after they got beat uh in the playoff

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00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: game after the twenty ninth was twenty. No, it was

506
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: the last game of the season twenty nineteen, right when

507
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: they finished eight and eight. That was the last time

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00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: we'd been. Because all the other interviews have been outdoors.

509
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Basically one person comes out, everybody interviews them. So you

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Speaker 1: actually had an opportunity to walk by and like talk

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Speaker 1: to somebody without twenty people with you. Uh. It was

512
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: a little different, but it felt right at least. So

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00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: what did it did? Did look any different? I mean

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Speaker 1: besides people getting moved in dinner, just moved around. Yeah,

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00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: Dak was in the same place, you know. And then

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Speaker 1: a lot of the early conversation, especially with Dak and

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Speaker 1: de Marcus Lawrence, Uh, it was about the tragan and

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Speaker 1: Uvaldi Uh and uh, you know, somebody somebody asked, Dak,

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00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: is somebody going to tell you, you know, stick to sports,

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00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: don't be talking about other stuff? He goes, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody's ignorant enough to say that to me. Just

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Speaker 1: like that, I thought that was pretty good, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and and the other thing he said that you know

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Speaker 1: it was I mean, it stuck out. He was talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, gosh, we got to be scared to send

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Speaker 1: our kids to school. He said, I'm almost fearful now

527
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Speaker 1: to have kids. You know, I don't have any right. Um,

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00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus Lawrence talked about how tough it was to

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Speaker 1: send his kids back to school. He's got three four

530
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Speaker 1: something like that, and uh said he'd you know, he'd

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Speaker 1: get into the locker room and call his wife. Everything okay,

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00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: everything good, you know, so uh yeah, there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of talk about, uh, the effect of what happened

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Speaker 1: there with the nineteen murders. To this point, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to twenty one nineteen kids kids, right, You don't

536
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Speaker 1: have to have kids, just like Dak doesn't have kids

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Speaker 1: to empathize. Of course, people always talk about how, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can relate because you're kind of in a similar situation,

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00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: but you really don't have to be. You know, the

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00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: tragedy is the tragedy itself. So well, we've all had

541
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Speaker 1: kids exactly, and you think back, I mean, you know,

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00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: if you're a parent, I mean, gosh, and even Mike

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00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: McCarthy told us afterwards that, you know, they had talked

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Speaker 1: about him giving an opening statement when he did his

545
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: press conference, and he said that he said, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I can do it. He said, I'll

547
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: get too emotional. Well, he got asked the question, and

548
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: he got about thirty seconds into it and he started

549
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: getting real emotional, talking about yeah, I've got, you know,

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Speaker 1: a daughter of fourth grade or whatever, and he needed

551
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Speaker 1: a few moments, and two or three times he stopped,

552
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: and he was he was he was pretty broken up

553
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: just thinking about it, right, And then I think towards

554
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: the end of when he finished it, he goes, well,

555
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm irish, and when we get old, we cry alt. Yeah,

556
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: and I said, Italian guys say, we all kind of

557
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: cry more at this age. Yeah, you know, it just

558
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: not just the kids, everybody. I worry about that. Like

559
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: my wife works at them all, you know. I mean,

560
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: you got people shooting up grocery stores and churches and

561
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: and all of that. So you know, just to be

562
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: in to just think of that in any situation, it's

563
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: really kind of tough, you know, Like you said, call

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Speaker 1: your wife. I mean I talked to him. I called

565
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: almost every day at work, you know, just to check in,

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Speaker 1: especially when I'm board and see what's going on. But

567
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: otherwise you worry about any situation where a lot of

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Speaker 1: people in place and can't be hurt. Uh, and being

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00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: this this precarious situation just from going to work, just

570
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: going to school, and I think the church and for

571
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: these guys, I think the door opened Tuesday evening when

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr stood up there before the game. I don't

573
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: know if you were there. He had to cover it,

574
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: but he opened the door and just you know, went off.

575
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: And and people need to understand there's no division between

576
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: reality and sports, right, it overlaps. These guys are living lives, right,

577
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: not just playing sports. And and I was glad Dak

578
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: said that it's like, don't even you know, insult me

579
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: that I can't have a say. I think when with fans,

580
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: fans often come to a sports event to escape, right,

581
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: They watch it to escape. Well, the people that you're watching,

582
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: they're not robots, they're people as well, So what's their escape? Yeah,

583
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: you understand. And when you're talking about Steve Kirk with

584
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: the history that he has, if I'm not mistaken, his

585
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: father was killed in a terrorist accident or something like that,

586
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: so assassinated. I mean, so that has never been with

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00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: a kid, that's his dad, and yet he still can

588
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: feel it. So, uh, you know, the kids. Of course,

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: that's the main tragedy of it. But you know, I

590
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: think the other tragedy is where can we be safe?

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00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: That's the problem. It's like I was at the ac

592
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: getting ready to do a live shot at four o'clock

593
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Speaker 1: on the Mavericks Warriors game, and I'm sitting there on

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00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: that Tuesday, on that Tuesday, and I'm like, and it

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00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: And I think everyone once you when you hear about it,

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00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: and I just heard about it. Probably I was driving

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00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: to the arena heard about it, and it's like, you

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00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: got this such a sick feeling in the pity of

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00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: your stomach. You don't even feel like doing whatever it

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00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: is you're assigned to do at that moment, you know, stop. Yeah,

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like and Neui scrugs, and I

602
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: and uh, Mike Leslie, We're all on the side on

603
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: the sideline getting ready to do and fortunately they didn't

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00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: come to us, obviously because they were covering that event.

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00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: And we're like, why come does anyone I mean, this

606
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: is so trivial compared to what just happened. It what

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00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: Bill Jones had said, right right, and we're supposed to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had to do a radio segment. I have one

609
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: every Tuesday late afternoon with the radio station and Tyler KTBB,

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00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't want to do this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can. Fortunately the subject didn't

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00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: come up because I don't know if I would have

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00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: been able to talk about well. And that's the way

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Speaker 1: I'm handling it right now. I'm not watching any of

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00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: it because I'm I'm sitting there. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: put my brain around this evil that happened. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to and so it's too sickening to

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00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: even hear the stories about it. Yet. Well, they when

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Speaker 1: I was watching the news that night, UM one of

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Speaker 1: the stations had a very young, a female female man

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Speaker 1: that I was going to bring that and I was like,

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Speaker 1: she doesn't have enough experience to do this, and she

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Speaker 1: she got fifteen seconds in two yes, ready to break down.

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Speaker 1: She kind of did. I mean, you're in there, you're seeing,

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00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: you're around all these people that are mourning, and it

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00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: just gets into here. You could just feel it around.

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00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: You could see it around her, and there's no way

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00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: she was going to escape that. I saw that, and

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Speaker 1: to me, it just kind of lends to the tragedy,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just how bad it is

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Speaker 1: and how much it effects everyone. I mean, what was

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633
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,120
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00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,200
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635
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,440
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636
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Speaker 1: like that, because sometimes you can't just be you can't

637
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Speaker 1: just do your job. Yeah, you know, sometimes showing that

638
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: emotion was her doing her job. That to me displayed

639
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640
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Speaker 1: And the good thing was when they passed it on

645
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646
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647
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if a female would have done that,

648
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,920
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649
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,520
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00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,279
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652
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Speaker 1: you know what, you're gonna have to give me a

654
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Speaker 1: few moments. I don't think emotionally I can come out

655
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659
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Speaker 1: problem talking about it, knowing you know, what had happened

660
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661
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701
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Speaker 1: want to look at the number ninees in Cowboys history.

702
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: I was trying to think back quarter quarterback head. I

703
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: mentioned Mitch Hoops, Did you did yes? Nineteen seventy five,

704
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: Mitch Hoops wore number nine, putter so and when you

705
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: became a Dallas Cowboy, number nine was available if they

706
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: let cornerbacks wear number nine back then, Because the next

707
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: number nine in Cowboys history as far as a regular

708
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: season now, they might have been a number nine in

709
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: the preseason, but the list in the media guide is

710
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: just the guys that made the regular season roster. Roger

711
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: Rusick kicker nineteen to one, of your teammates nineteen eighty

712
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: seven to eighty nine, and then Cooper Cup's dad or

713
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: number nine nineteen ninety one with the Cowboys very briefly,

714
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: and of course Rodney Pete right, and then Daniel Gonzalez

715
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight. Now my number before twenty four,

716
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: they just threw me anything. I think they actually had

717
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: a whole in the dawn. Jason, twenty four should have

718
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: been a wanted number. That's I mean, that's very cool.

719
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: They didn't ask me what the hell I wanted. Look up,

720
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: you look at me, SAgs undrafted free day, just say

721
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: we're at the crap and they threw me on number

722
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: twenty seven. And I had number twenty seven. Ron Fellows

723
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: almost all through training camp. Ron did not have twenty seven.

724
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I can't remember what he had

725
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: in training camp. It wasn't twenty seven. I had twenty seven.

726
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: He ended up with twenty four and twenty four, I

727
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: had twenty seven. Remember he was a wide receiver, well

728
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: so so did he come in a zoo wide receiver?

729
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: Came in as a d was a wide receiver at Missouri. Right,

730
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: They drafted him and said we're gonna so he would

731
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: have had a dB number. He would have had dB.

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00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: I can't remember when he came into They didn't think

733
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: he was gonna make it, and so they gave him

734
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: thirty eight. He was a draft he was seven. You

735
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: didn't drafted out of Missouri your name? He was seven eight? Yeah,

736
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: and Ken Miller from mister State was seven bat that's

737
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: what they called him. Seven seven first first, seventh round,

738
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Speaker 1: thick seconds. And by the way, he was a pretty

739
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: good wide receiver in college, was he really? Yeah? Yes

740
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: he was. He was, you know, one of those things speed.

741
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: He's got the uh. I told him he got the

742
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: inverted thing because hearts on his right side. I did

743
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: not know his heart on he's got there. I saw

744
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: it on the TV. Really, yes, he legitimately has his

745
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: everything is like reverse. I guess you know. It's it's rare,

746
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: but no big deal. There's no uh, you know danger.

747
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: As long as it's work, it still works. They don't

748
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: know how, but it still works. By the way, that

749
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: year the two Missouri guys got drafted first round. Party

750
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: Howard Richards. That's right, how Richard. He was doing, by

751
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: the way, analyst radio. He's the radio network analyst host

752
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: for Missouri now and he was he was working with

753
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: the FBI at one point, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah,

754
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: he was a big time. He was pretty sharp, he was.

755
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: He's still a good guy, still a good Eric. Eric

756
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: Wright got drafted in eighty one. Also, now that guy there,

757
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: that's the that's the savior of the San Francisco game,

758
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: right there, got Drew from behind. Drew that's the savior

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00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: with the finger a finger today it would be called

760
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: the horse sky to tackle. Yeah, that's just how close.

761
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: It was very interesting. All right, all right, so um

762
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: to two more things I got on your legal pad. Um,

763
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: we're empty. You know we were talking about we were

764
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: talking about how they were kind of looking for tight ends, right,

765
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: they needed help at tight end. If you look at

766
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: your list here there are six tight ends that were

767
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 1: on the field. Uh last wow, yesterday, not only Dalton Schultz,

768
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: but you know, their fourth round picked Jake Ferguson, Jeremy

769
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: Sprinkle came back, actually had a couple of catches, uh yesterday,

770
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: Ian Bunting uh and Sean McEwan and then Peyton hender

771
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: Shot was a rookie free agent. So wait, wait, wait,

772
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: you can't mention nine. Very nice, you're not explaining from Indiana.

773
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: Hayden is so uh yeah, they're they're, you know, making

774
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: sure And Ferguson looks the part. Now they gave him,

775
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: they gave him forty eight. But I give him credit

776
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: that he in his rookie interview, or maybe it was

777
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: last week in his interview, he knew that Darryl Johnston

778
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: had forty eight. So sharp kid, right, he knows it's

779
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: cowboys here. So so uh yeah, you hadn't even seen

780
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: these guys do anything, have you? Now? Now you don't

781
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: even know anything about these guys at all. I mean,

782
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: I know, you know a couple of guys that I

783
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: might have looked up. But Hendershot had forty six catches

784
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: and four touchdowns for Indian last year. Right, Well, there

785
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: we go. We'll keep an eye on him. They had

786
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: a decent season last year, didn't they. Yes, they did. Um.

787
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: The other thing I think of note in the Cowboys

788
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: haven't done this in a while. Um. This training camp

789
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: there we have two planned scrimmages. First with Denver. So

790
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: the first preseason game is at Denver and they're gonna

791
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: go a couple days early and have a scrimmage two

792
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: days before the game with the Broncos. And then the

793
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: second preseason game is uh they break in camp. They're

794
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: going to La No La to play the Charger play

795
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: the Charge the camp in uh, California, the Raiders, Oh no,

796
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure not okay after moving there, okay, uh, And

797
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna scrimmage the Chargers twice, uh, and then have

798
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: a day off and then play the final preseason game

799
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: or the final road preseason game, and then head home.

800
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: They don't play them in the regular season. Correct the

801
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Chargers not this year? Good? But they did they did

802
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: last year. So so H McCarthy said, he really hasn't

803
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: done this before, but after they did it with the

804
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Rams last year, and he said, talking to some of

805
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: the other coaches felt like it was a good idea.

806
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: He well, you mean they haven't done this. He hadn't

807
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: scrimmaged teams before. Really, Yeah, he did back in the nineties, Yeah,

808
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: he said, but not as a head coach. He did

809
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: it when he was in Kansas that recently, but because

810
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: I thought that was the norm. I mean, they had

811
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: been doing it, but not since he didn't do it

812
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: is his first year. I guess, well the pandemic. The

813
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys had did it with the Rams, remember that that

814
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: year they called off the second one because of the

815
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: I was going to call it a riot. It was

816
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: like a rocket Jeff Fishers Rams. They had a melee

817
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: out there, right. Yeah. That and the footy thing about

818
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: that is so I was over on the field that

819
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: it didn't start on. I was watching the Cowboys offense, right,

820
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: and it started, and they were in goal line, right,

821
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: and all the Rams, all but one guy, it was

822
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: a veteran linebacker, all but one guy. Their whole defense

823
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: ran on the other field. Romo brought the Cowboys to

824
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: the light of Cerramids and hiked the ball and went

825
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: in for a touchdown, right. And then we were running

826
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: over into the other field, and I remember somebody yelling

827
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: at us to get back. I said, don't be worried

828
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: about me. I said, you got sixty guys out there

829
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: swinging at each other, right, Uh, that was that was

830
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: scarydown against no defense. There was one guy it was

831
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Yeah, it was funny, but I don't think

832
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: anybody saw it because everybody was running to the field.

833
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: But you know the bad part was is it spilled

834
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: over to the fence on the side of the field

835
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: where the fans are, and the fans were standing there

836
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they started like swinging at

837
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: the players. Why that Raider fans are Rams fans? I

838
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: should say? So? Wait, you know the way Bill gave

839
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: me this little notation here, you said, Jeff Fisher's rams.

840
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 1: Uh huh? What does that mean? You trying to chest versions?

841
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: They were? They came not they came floated for bear,

842
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a training camp practice. What is

843
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: the deal? Right? Is he trying? Was he trying to

844
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: prove something? That was that his first year with no? No, No,

845
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: he'd been there for too late. I think it was.

846
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: I want to say I think it was his last year.

847
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: He probably was well because the case point that they

848
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: were recorded to the coach that replaced him, he's done

849
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: pretty well. And yes he had, Yes he was. And

850
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: by the way, Eric Jeferson is still coming to the games.

851
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: But if you would call, he's still gaining yards on

852
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Stop stop. I still have nightmares. Okay, but

853
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: I think I had the year wrong. I said it

854
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: was like twenty seventeen. That's why I said it was

855
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher's Rams. Well, he ended up going off on

856
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: Eric as well. He said, Eric, should you know Eric

857
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: was trying to criticize him or whatever, and he said

858
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: Eric shouldn't be on the sidelines. He said, hey, can't

859
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: get the ticket to the game, and he said, Eric

860
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: doesn't belong on the sidelines. And next thing you know,

861
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Fish is gone and I think Eric is now in

862
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: the front office. So amazing how that happened. Then, So anyway,

863
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to have two scrimmages m and

864
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: they're both gonna be away ones. Last year was a

865
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: home one against the Rams. The other thing is is

866
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: the UH. The NFL and the NFLPA made a change

867
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: to UH injured reserve. For the last two years because

868
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: of COVID, guys only had to spend three weeks on

869
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: IR and then they were eligible to come back UH.

870
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: This year, it's gonna be four weeks and you're only

871
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: eligible to bring back eight guys off of IR, and

872
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: you could bring back the same guy as many as

873
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: two times, but he both times count against your said again, okay,

874
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: so you there's a limit now on how many guys

875
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: can return from injury reserve. Interesting, So, and that was

876
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: it was too previous to COVID, right, and you had

877
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: to designate them when you put them on IR that

878
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: they are IR return And during COVID it was unlimited, unlimited,

879
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: they set out three games, but they can come back

880
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: after three games exactly. Now it's limited to eight and

881
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: but you have to miss four weeks, which was you

882
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: can make eight moves. Eight moves, okay, our return moves

883
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: and four weeks is what it was when you were playing. Uh.

884
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: And then the team started taking advantage of that, coming

885
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: up with phony injuries to preserve a guy's rights and figuring, okay,

886
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: in four weeks, somebody else is going to get hurt

887
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: and I could bring this guy back, right, And they

888
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: actually started bringing the NFL would bring independent medical person

889
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: to view practice to make sure guys on IR weren't

890
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: practicing and make sure that they actually had an injury.

891
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Because there was one year, I don't remember who it was,

892
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: there was a quarterback. They wanted to keep his rights.

893
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: And they were playing a preseason game against Denver and

894
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: they basically told this quarterback, when you take this snap,

895
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: we want you to roll out towards our sideline because

896
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: our cameras are going to be up there on that

897
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: side of the field, and grab your hamstring as you

898
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: He forgot to grab his hamstring. And I'm going Okay,

899
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: if he can't remember that, plays aren't gonna work. Plays

900
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: aren't going to wow. Okay, now you're talking about IR.

901
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: Like during the season, a player gets hurt and goes

902
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: on IR. And now it is four games four weeks,

903
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: not games four weeks from the from the moment you

904
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: put them on. Okay, what about PUP? And and this

905
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: this relates to Michael Gallup because in the past, if

906
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: you went on PUP prior to the season starting, right you,

907
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: it was six weeks six weeks, and so Michael Gallup

908
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: would have to miss six if coming up an ACL,

909
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: if you put him on PUP, he would be it

910
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: would be he would miss six weeks to start the season.

911
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: What is it now? It didn't say PUP. It said

912
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm non football injury. All right, here's five. Here's here's

913
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: what I've got. I just I'm I'm just seeing a

914
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: memo that's been released to the clubs or whatever sent

915
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: to the clubs players who are placed on reserve physically

916
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: unable to perform or reserve non football In mine didn't

917
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: say or at or after the roster production to eighty players, right,

918
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: So that is back in preseason because I can't remember

919
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: what the date is, but I'm not that's not the

920
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: last it's not the fifty three man but so it's

921
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: prior to the fifty three man roster, which is equivalent

922
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: to what the what has been done in the past

923
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: as far as PUP goes will continue to count again.

924
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: Such players may begin a twenty one day practice period

925
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: or be activated after four regular season games. So not

926
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: so it's reduced. So in the case of Michael Gallup,

927
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: the new PUP rules are that he doesn't have to

928
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: sit out six games and be active on the seventh game.

929
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: He can be ready on the fifth game of the season,

930
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: which is the Cowboys opened against Tampa Bay and Cincinnati,

931
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: then at the Giants Washington, and then October ninth at

932
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion Los Angeles Rams. But if Michael

933
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: Gallup is placed on pup and he will be four

934
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: and I can guarantee you he will be right. But

935
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: you also have that twenty one day window to decide

936
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: if you want him to start practicing, and then once

937
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: he starts, it could extend eight weeks into the season

938
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: and you start that twenty one day win can actually

939
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: extend I just threw that out seven. You could extend

940
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: it nine weeks. So what I'm saying is the earliest

941
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: if they put Gallop on pup, the earliest he will

942
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: be able to play in a game is week five

943
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: at the ramp, right, And you wouldn't do that because

944
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: you can't practice when you're on pup. So chances are

945
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: if you're coming off a torn acl and you're out

946
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: the first four weeks, you can't practice, right, you can't

947
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: practice in training camp, So he's not going to practice

948
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: three times and go play a game. So you have

949
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: twenty one days to decide when he's going to start practicing,

950
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: and then after that you get another two weeks to

951
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: practice before you got to say, Okay, we're either putting

952
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: him on the rawster or he stays on for the

953
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: rest of the year. I want to hear that Lad

954
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: so you can stretch it out to like ten weeks

955
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: almost before you have to make a serious decision. Uh.

956
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: The other change they made, and it was, uh, sixteen

957
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: players on the practice squad during COVID, it's going to

958
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: be fourteen. And now you can elevate a practice a

959
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: person from the practice squad a maximum of three times.

960
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: Prior to that, it was only twice, so you can

961
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: move them without having to go back through free agency

962
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: or waivers to get back on the practice squad. So

963
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: that's another one. And now they've even come up with

964
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: ramp time periods during training camp, those first three or

965
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: four days where you're not allowed to put pads on

966
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: and you were supposed to only get two hours on

967
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: the field. Now they've reduced that to ninety minutes on

968
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: day two, one hundred and five minutes on day three,

969
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: and two hours the final two days. Oh man, that's crazy.

970
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: So let's practice now, huh yes, wow, this must be tough,

971
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: and then you can put the pads on. Yes, that's

972
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: so cool. And practice squad same sixteen fourteen? Oh no,

973
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: what would I say? Sixteen? It was fourteen before COVID

974
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: now and then it was sixteen and they're going to

975
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: keep it at six and you can and a maximum

976
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: of six veteran players can be on the practice squad.

977
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: That's the key on there, where you can actually have

978
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: veteran players on the practice squad. Of course, they're subject

979
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: to being picked off by another team, right, just like

980
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: any practice player is. So yeah, I'm sure if you're

981
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: putting a veteran there and someone comes to try to

982
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: poach them, it's like, okay, you can go, but we

983
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: can pay you the minimum for three weeks. It's so

984
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: much better having the four week ir yes, rather than

985
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: the old I mean for years it was just you

986
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: could only go one guy on right, Then it was two,

987
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: and then it was two. But before that it was made.

988
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: It was the season. And I understand the stashing part

989
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: of it whatever, but there it made no as much

990
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: money as invested in these players. And a guy gets

991
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: hurt week one could come back ten weeks later. You

992
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: got multiple guys that are in that category. It didn't

993
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: make any sense, you know, as long as the season is,

994
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: especially now. So the other point I was going to

995
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: make also the Raiders working out Colin Kaepernick, ah saw it. Yeah,

996
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: So here's what's changed Prior to this. I'd never heard

997
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: him say he was willing to be the backup quarterback

998
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: right now, or make the backup quarterback now. And that's

999
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: my next question. Now he's saying, I'm willing to be

1000
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. Do you want to make backup quarterback

1001
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: pay or do you think you're coming back and making

1002
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: nine million dollars a year. Well, that's a big difference

1003
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: between two thousand and seventeen and twenty twenty one, twenty

1004
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: twenty two. Right, you know, things change, I mean everything

1005
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: changed for him, you know, no, you know, no luck, no, no, look,

1006
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, no opportunity. Yeah, you're gonna change. That's just

1007
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: the way. That's the way it is. I mean, if

1008
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: you want to stick to the same script, then you

1009
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't get that workout. And what the Raiders have

1010
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: They've got Jared Stidham as a backup quarterback. Nick Mullins

1011
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: is another guy that they signed. Whatever they've got, there's

1012
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: an opportunity there. Marcus Mariota, of course, was there last

1013
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: year and now he's Atlanta, and so there is an opportunity.

1014
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: The question on Kaepernick is you can structure a deal

1015
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: for him that because he hasn't played in the league

1016
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: in so long. He wasn't in the league last year,

1017
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: and so you can structure a deal that take it

1018
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: has an incentive latent contract where he could have a base.

1019
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: The question is for him, is he willing to play

1020
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get in a game at a veteran

1021
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: minimum base of whatever it might be, whatever they agree

1022
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 1: to one to two million dollars, and then he has

1023
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: based on number of games he plays, he could get

1024
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: paid a million dollars a game, whatever they can handle

1025
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: or whatever they negotiate. Is he willing to do that

1026
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: kind of a deal? Start of what the Cowboys did

1027
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton basically gave him a you know, three

1028
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: million dollars deal to be the backup, but then it

1029
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: was so much poorer game. How long he was How

1030
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: long was he out? How long was Andy ad No,

1031
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: he just came when he got released by a Cincinnati

1032
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: The Cowboys signed right now. This guy hasn't taken a

1033
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: snap in the NFL since was a twenty sixteen I'm

1034
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: not sure, he said, twenty sixteen. Yeah, twenty sixteen. That's

1035
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: the last time you played. So that's a long time

1036
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: for the quarterback not to see the field. Right, and

1037
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: that's why the song changed. That's a long time he hadn't.

1038
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: He's a different I mean we're different from twenty sixteen

1039
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: to now. You know, it's something different about us, and

1040
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: especially if you used to be a professional quarterback. Yeah,

1041
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: everything changes quickly, and then that's for a long time.

1042
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: This guy waited. This is six years now because I

1043
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: remember everybody saying, well, this guy's better than backup quarterback.

1044
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: This team's got or that, or the Cowboys have right,

1045
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, but does he want to be the

1046
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: backup or does he want to go someplace and actually

1047
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: compete for the starting job, which when you've been out there,

1048
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: actually I don't think it really would have mattered. I

1049
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: think the stance that he took that pretty much that

1050
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: sealed his fate. So it didn't matter what he said.

1051
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: It was going to always be something well, oh well

1052
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: this is what I heard, and then this is what

1053
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: I heard, so you know, when it comes down to it,

1054
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: all those you know, trivialities, it didn't and the team

1055
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: had to be strong enough to say, Okay, we're going

1056
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: to accept the backlash because exactly there's gonna be a

1057
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: backs it is right, yes, it and all of a sudden,

1058
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: that'll be center stage. Do you want to? And now

1059
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden things once again, not only are

1060
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: we different, America's a little bit different from twenty sixteen,

1061
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: right you see. So that's the main thing as well. Hey,

1062
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: I got something for you guys. I had a little reunion.

1063
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: I know, we gotta go in a little bit, a

1064
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: little bit union reunion. Yeah, with said Cliff Harris, got DDE, Lewis, Leboy,

1065
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: Jordan uh and Charlie Waters. We were all at the

1066
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: Stallings Awards, all right, Yeah, it was it was hell

1067
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Country Club. I was out there the

1068
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: Stallings Awards. Stallings Award. Yeah, let me get some's old

1069
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: gene with me and Chuck, Me and Charlie Waters. That

1070
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: was nicely moving along. Both are moving pretty slow slow. Yeah,

1071
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: but Jean's gotta got a cane. Chie doesn't. That's the

1072
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: only difference right there. So Charlie's close to happen, Yes

1073
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: he is. That said, that's the only difference. But I

1074
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: saw he and Cliff and we all sat together, our

1075
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,959
Speaker 1: wives talked to each other man and what was the award?

1076
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: The award went to the award went too. I'm gonna

1077
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: see if you recognize Shut up. Sorry, I wasna like

1078
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: tease you with this, and can't you recognize that guy? Well,

1079
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: I guess you can. Then that's I took a better

1080
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: picture with him myself. And and that was pretty cool

1081
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: because he and Sean Springs were teammates. So we talked

1082
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: about about Ron, talked about about the kidney donations and

1083
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: things of that nature. So who was teammates with run

1084
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: Fickle Sean with Sean Springs son, Ron Springs Son Sean Springs.

1085
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: That went right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay, that's okay, Well,

1086
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: that's cool. I didn't realize they had one of those. Yeah,

1087
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: you weren't invited. That's why I should have been. The

1088
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: rest of the world would have known about it, right,

1089
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: So that was good stuff. Man. We had just past Tuesday.

1090
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: You know what it was. Gene has not changed, not

1091
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: one bit. It was it was four or five years ago.

1092
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: We did a legend show on him and we went

1093
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: out to his place in Paris and um, so he

1094
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: it's got a big sprint, yes, and there's fences up

1095
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: and he was talking about and I said, so who

1096
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: rides out there and repairs those fencers? Why do you

1097
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: mean I go, he goes get on my horse at

1098
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: our ride out there, So he had to be in

1099
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: his eighties. See that reminds me of when Wade Phillips

1100
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: got the job here and we went to Wade's. We

1101
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: went to bum Phillip's ranch down south of San Antonio.

1102
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: I believe Goliad Texas. Yeah, and I mean you there

1103
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: is no more hospitable There was no more hospitable person

1104
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: in the world than Bum and his wife. I mean

1105
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: they offered to even put us up for the night.

1106
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: We were just going on a day trip down there

1107
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: to do a story on him whatever. When we got there,

1108
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: Bum Phillips was out on his horse out I mean

1109
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: he would I'm looking up now how old he would

1110
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: have been then, but he was probably in his eighties.

1111
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Ruth Anne

1112
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: as well. Jean's wife still looks. She was great when

1113
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: we did the interview. If there was any lapses in memory,

1114
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: she piped right right. And Bum was born in nineteen

1115
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: twenty three, and so he would have been eighty four

1116
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,560
Speaker 1: years old then. Now look up stallings and and so

1117
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: when we finished, and we must have spent two hours

1118
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: in his house. I think Chris was Chris was with us.

1119
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: I think I don't think so, Oh, you weren't, okay.

1120
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: Jean is eighty seven. Eighty seven turned eighty seven in March,

1121
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: so this would have been at least eighty okay. And

1122
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: we got done with the whole thing and giving us

1123
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: directions on you know, how to get out of here

1124
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: or whatever, and he goes, well, wait, let's let's go

1125
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: to lunch. And he took to the place that he

1126
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: goes to lunch probably every day, right, And we had

1127
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: lunch with him, and I'm sun just some some company

1128
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: and yeah, some visitors and show them off to the

1129
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: to the old school people in the neighborhood, you know.

1130
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: And you go into guys' houses like that. It's almost

1131
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: like going into museum because they've got all this memorabilia, right,

1132
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: and all this stuff from Alabama. They put up only

1133
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: the best and most impressive things. Of course. It's like

1134
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's like when we and now Chris

1135
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: went to this one, we did Walt Garrison, yeah, in

1136
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: his place, and uh, it was like going in the museum.

1137
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: He's got cowboys stuff, and he's got cow cowboys stuff

1138
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: and real cowboys stuff, stuff that he's whittled. We went

1139
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: into that. I've got like three or four of those.

1140
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: He keeps every time I'd see him, he give me one. Right,

1141
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: I've got all this mean works of art. That's right. Yeah,

1142
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: it's by the way. I had. I spoke for like

1143
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: to minutes just talking to Jane that was, and he

1144
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: couldn't understand the word I say it, so I was

1145
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: in the wrong ear, so I had to repeat myself

1146
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: all over. Garrison's front door was impressive in itself. The

1147
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: whole house was his front door is is um. It's

1148
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: all his friends's brands, like you know, like they're they're

1149
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: they're farm brands, Iron Bank brand. So it's all pressed

1150
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: into his door. So it's all these brands on his

1151
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: It was a log house. They build remotely, take it

1152
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: apart and then bring it and restructure it. Wow. And

1153
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: you know how he got that. You know how he

1154
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: got that house. He wasn't from Mike making money. If

1155
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: it was from Skull Skull Skull, the skull commercials he made,

1156
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: he made more money. He said, Oh, I'm sure he

1157
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: was American Tobacco. Then the American tobacco or whatever. It

1158
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: was he hit and he told the story, and I know,

1159
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: we gotta go about when they were at training camp

1160
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: in Thousand Oaks, right, and they they needed some extras

1161
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: to ride a horse for some John Wayne movie, right,

1162
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 1: And he said at one point they came, they were close,

1163
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: and they came ride into training camp in Thousand Oaks

1164
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: on their horses, and uh, he had a rifle that

1165
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: John Wayne gave him, right, and it was like a

1166
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 1: real not a replica. It was a real deal. And

1167
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: he's got it in you know, this case and everything.

1168
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: He had saddles on these wooden horses and it was amazing,

1169
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: just absolutely amazing. And he was he's a one, one

1170
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: of a kind. I'm sorry, that's all right. That's good stuff,

1171
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 1: all right. So that does it for week one of

1172
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: OTA's no telling what Mickey will have on his legal

1173
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: pad after he observes another practice next week. Here on

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01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,240
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