1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:14,628 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,268 --> 00:00:29,188 Speaker 2: Good Morning, oh Man, Happy May the fourth be with you. 4 00:00:29,548 --> 00:00:33,548 Speaker 2: Kyle Brand is beside himself the Jason McCarty and his 5 00:00:33,668 --> 00:00:35,268 Speaker 2: lack of Star Wars knowledge. This is going to have 6 00:00:35,268 --> 00:00:37,068 Speaker 2: to be settled after the show because we have football 7 00:00:37,068 --> 00:00:38,908 Speaker 2: to talk about. This is Good Morning Football live in 8 00:00:38,908 --> 00:00:39,508 Speaker 2: New York City. 9 00:00:39,508 --> 00:00:40,508 Speaker 3: You already know what day it is. 10 00:00:40,548 --> 00:00:44,748 Speaker 2: I'm Jamie Ertl, Hans Solo, Jason McCarty, and Mike you'rifolo. Mike, 11 00:00:45,468 --> 00:00:48,068 Speaker 2: where do you in the scale of Star Wars knowledge 12 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:50,748 Speaker 2: right here across the table, where do you lean more towards? 13 00:00:51,388 --> 00:00:54,348 Speaker 4: Well, I'm definitely closer to Kyle, I think, but I 14 00:00:54,388 --> 00:00:58,228 Speaker 4: mean just sorry, sorry, yeah, not Hans Hans and Franz. 15 00:00:58,388 --> 00:00:59,228 Speaker 5: That's that's different. 16 00:00:59,828 --> 00:01:01,708 Speaker 4: But like the number of lights, like some of the 17 00:01:01,788 --> 00:01:04,308 Speaker 4: questions we asked the number of lightsabers in fact that 18 00:01:04,428 --> 00:01:05,588 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't touch that. 19 00:01:05,708 --> 00:01:07,548 Speaker 2: We played a trivia game earlier in the show. 20 00:01:07,908 --> 00:01:09,868 Speaker 3: We thought it was going to be comical in a 21 00:01:09,908 --> 00:01:10,628 Speaker 3: way that Jason. 22 00:01:10,508 --> 00:01:13,628 Speaker 2: McCarty doesn't know Star Wars. There's not knowing it. And 23 00:01:13,668 --> 00:01:16,588 Speaker 2: then there's Jason McCarty it was alarming. Actually, how little 24 00:01:16,708 --> 00:01:19,348 Speaker 2: just like life reference you have to Star. 25 00:01:19,148 --> 00:01:22,388 Speaker 6: Wars not alarming at all. I've gotten multiple tweets like, yeah, 26 00:01:22,388 --> 00:01:24,148 Speaker 6: I'm right with you. I have no idea what any 27 00:01:24,188 --> 00:01:26,628 Speaker 6: of this is. My friends have texted me like, well, 28 00:01:26,628 --> 00:01:29,708 Speaker 6: why y'all talking about Star Wars like they have no idea? 29 00:01:29,748 --> 00:01:32,628 Speaker 6: What made the fourth means to Star Wars Nation? 30 00:01:32,988 --> 00:01:36,348 Speaker 2: Well, we have officially learned as Kyle Brant knows all 31 00:01:36,588 --> 00:01:39,588 Speaker 2: and whether it be Star Wars or where he ranks 32 00:01:39,628 --> 00:01:43,668 Speaker 2: his NFL quarterbacks, what he is spoken word if you will, 33 00:01:43,708 --> 00:01:47,988 Speaker 2: because Kyle's been ranking both AFC and NFC quarterbacks this week, 34 00:01:47,988 --> 00:01:49,188 Speaker 2: and Kyle, how's it been going for you? 35 00:01:49,348 --> 00:01:49,628 Speaker 5: Great? 36 00:01:49,948 --> 00:01:52,708 Speaker 1: Yesterday did AFC? There are a lot of reactions I saw. 37 00:01:53,228 --> 00:01:55,348 Speaker 1: We talked about how Trevor Lawrence might have been under rank. 38 00:01:55,588 --> 00:01:58,548 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence himself tweeted about it. Did Triva Lawrence said? 39 00:01:58,548 --> 00:02:01,348 Speaker 1: The game's not played on paper. Trevor, I totally respect 40 00:02:01,388 --> 00:02:03,428 Speaker 1: and thank you for the interest, and thank you that 41 00:02:03,508 --> 00:02:06,068 Speaker 1: you care enough the even acknowledge I love you. I 42 00:02:06,108 --> 00:02:08,988 Speaker 1: hope you have a great season and nothing personal. That's awesome, 43 00:02:09,028 --> 00:02:11,308 Speaker 1: that's really cool. And we did the NFC today we did. 44 00:02:11,428 --> 00:02:14,228 Speaker 2: Indeed, go take a look and share your feelings directly 45 00:02:14,268 --> 00:02:16,468 Speaker 2: at Kyle Brandt if you want to. It is Thursday. 46 00:02:16,508 --> 00:02:18,708 Speaker 2: It's nine am, which means time for a throwdown Thursday. 47 00:02:19,708 --> 00:02:20,028 Speaker 3: All right. 48 00:02:21,028 --> 00:02:24,748 Speaker 2: Seven tiers of quarterbacks within each conference today, as you mentioned, 49 00:02:24,788 --> 00:02:27,468 Speaker 2: it was the NFC. Yesterday AFC undisputed top to yer 50 00:02:27,548 --> 00:02:30,948 Speaker 2: quarterback in the AFC was is Patrick Mahomes, but there 51 00:02:30,948 --> 00:02:33,468 Speaker 2: are two others lurking one level below, Joe Burrow and 52 00:02:33,548 --> 00:02:34,068 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. 53 00:02:34,348 --> 00:02:34,708 Speaker 7: Throw it out. 54 00:02:34,828 --> 00:02:37,908 Speaker 2: Question number one is which AFC quarterback is more likely 55 00:02:38,028 --> 00:02:42,188 Speaker 2: to move up Kyle's top tier to sit alongside Patrick Mahomes. 56 00:02:42,268 --> 00:02:43,948 Speaker 3: Is it Joe Burrow or Josh Allen, Mike. 57 00:02:43,948 --> 00:02:45,268 Speaker 5: We're going to We're going to go. 58 00:02:45,348 --> 00:02:47,748 Speaker 4: I am going to go with Josh Allen on this one. 59 00:02:47,788 --> 00:02:50,148 Speaker 4: I love the Dalton Kincaid edition. I think he is 60 00:02:50,308 --> 00:02:52,668 Speaker 4: NFL ready. I think he is going to contribute. But 61 00:02:52,708 --> 00:02:54,908 Speaker 4: there are also a couple of additions to this offense 62 00:02:55,108 --> 00:02:57,108 Speaker 4: that I think may wind up being a little bit 63 00:02:57,268 --> 00:02:59,268 Speaker 4: under the radar, underrated, whatever you want to call it. 64 00:02:59,308 --> 00:03:02,708 Speaker 4: Trent Sherfield and Deontay Hardy. Trent Sherfield last year for 65 00:03:02,748 --> 00:03:06,028 Speaker 4: the Miami Dolphins. He had a play against the San 66 00:03:06,028 --> 00:03:07,988 Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers in which he reached the speed 67 00:03:07,988 --> 00:03:10,548 Speaker 4: of almost twenty one miles per hour on a seventy 68 00:03:10,548 --> 00:03:14,148 Speaker 4: five yard TD. The problem is on that offense, it's 69 00:03:14,188 --> 00:03:16,428 Speaker 4: just hard to get the football, especially with speed guys. 70 00:03:16,788 --> 00:03:19,028 Speaker 4: So now I think that that's a big addition right there. 71 00:03:19,108 --> 00:03:21,708 Speaker 4: And then Deontay Hardy, a guy that they also signed here. 72 00:03:22,508 --> 00:03:24,868 Speaker 4: He's been a return guy, so you've seen this speed 73 00:03:25,308 --> 00:03:27,788 Speaker 4: on display there, but also his ability to get down 74 00:03:27,788 --> 00:03:29,988 Speaker 4: the field as well. I think this offense is going 75 00:03:30,068 --> 00:03:31,748 Speaker 4: to be a little bit more vertical, a little bit 76 00:03:31,748 --> 00:03:34,028 Speaker 4: more for teams to worry about. I think Josh Allen 77 00:03:34,108 --> 00:03:35,108 Speaker 4: jumps up well. 78 00:03:35,188 --> 00:03:37,868 Speaker 6: I like that when this question came across him. Like 79 00:03:37,868 --> 00:03:40,228 Speaker 6: the tough thing is when you look at those tiers. 80 00:03:40,268 --> 00:03:42,948 Speaker 6: You have Patrick Mahomes there, you have Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, 81 00:03:43,388 --> 00:03:46,268 Speaker 6: and yes, they could bump up a tier, but Patrick 82 00:03:46,308 --> 00:03:50,068 Speaker 6: Mahomes may just create another tier to go up above 83 00:03:50,108 --> 00:03:52,268 Speaker 6: and they may never be able to reach him. But 84 00:03:52,308 --> 00:03:54,028 Speaker 6: if I had to choose one to do it, I'm 85 00:03:54,028 --> 00:03:56,188 Speaker 6: gonna go with Joe Burrow, and I'm gonna do it 86 00:03:56,228 --> 00:03:58,628 Speaker 6: because of the supporting cast that he still has there. 87 00:03:58,668 --> 00:04:01,548 Speaker 6: He still has Jamar Chase, he still has t Higgins. 88 00:04:01,668 --> 00:04:04,268 Speaker 6: Tyler Boyd is still in the slot there for him. 89 00:04:04,468 --> 00:04:07,148 Speaker 6: When you mentioned those three receivers, it is my goodness 90 00:04:07,188 --> 00:04:09,508 Speaker 6: Tea against is a number one receiver that they may 91 00:04:09,548 --> 00:04:11,868 Speaker 6: be able to resign but may go and sign to 92 00:04:11,908 --> 00:04:14,828 Speaker 6: be a huge deal somewhere else. And obviously their backfield 93 00:04:14,868 --> 00:04:17,308 Speaker 6: with Joe Mixon, and then they've also signed Arv Smith, 94 00:04:17,308 --> 00:04:20,108 Speaker 6: who's dealt with some injuries from the Minnesota Vikings. But 95 00:04:20,148 --> 00:04:22,548 Speaker 6: this is a guy who's fast when he gets the 96 00:04:22,588 --> 00:04:24,748 Speaker 6: ball in his hands, elusive and things of that nature. 97 00:04:24,828 --> 00:04:28,028 Speaker 6: So I think Joe Burrow, only going into his fourth year, 98 00:04:28,428 --> 00:04:31,148 Speaker 6: we still haven't seen the very peak of where he 99 00:04:31,188 --> 00:04:33,588 Speaker 6: can get. And that's no knock on Josh Allen because 100 00:04:33,588 --> 00:04:35,028 Speaker 6: he's an absolute beast as well. 101 00:04:35,268 --> 00:04:37,508 Speaker 1: The term for Mahomes is you hear the term boat race, 102 00:04:37,628 --> 00:04:40,068 Speaker 1: where is a lead that cannot be closed upon because 103 00:04:40,068 --> 00:04:42,348 Speaker 1: everybody's using the same win. It's just over, you can't 104 00:04:42,388 --> 00:04:44,508 Speaker 1: catch up. I don't know if Mahomes has a true 105 00:04:44,548 --> 00:04:46,628 Speaker 1: boat race yet. He's been to three Super Bowls, he's 106 00:04:46,668 --> 00:04:48,948 Speaker 1: won two. Neither of the other guys have won any 107 00:04:49,028 --> 00:04:50,948 Speaker 1: so both these guys, hopefully all three of them are 108 00:04:50,948 --> 00:04:52,388 Speaker 1: going to play for the next fifteen to sixteen years. 109 00:04:52,388 --> 00:04:52,708 Speaker 5: We'll see. 110 00:04:52,748 --> 00:04:55,228 Speaker 1: But it's tough too much in anybody tracking down Mahomes. 111 00:04:55,428 --> 00:04:58,628 Speaker 1: If Alan or Burrow are the Super Bowl MVP next year, 112 00:04:59,188 --> 00:05:01,228 Speaker 1: even still, are they in the same class as Mahomes, 113 00:05:01,228 --> 00:05:02,868 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like we have such respect 114 00:05:02,868 --> 00:05:03,468 Speaker 1: for Mahomes. 115 00:05:03,508 --> 00:05:04,548 Speaker 5: But to answer the question, and. 116 00:05:05,188 --> 00:05:07,908 Speaker 1: I saw a headline the other day that was after 117 00:05:07,948 --> 00:05:11,068 Speaker 1: the draft, you talked about Dalton Kincaid, Josh Allen has 118 00:05:11,108 --> 00:05:12,348 Speaker 1: got his Travis kelcey. 119 00:05:12,468 --> 00:05:13,868 Speaker 5: Now I was like, I don't know about that. I 120 00:05:13,908 --> 00:05:14,788 Speaker 5: like Kinkaid as much. 121 00:05:14,668 --> 00:05:16,148 Speaker 1: As the next guy, but I don't know all this 122 00:05:16,348 --> 00:05:20,308 Speaker 1: baby Kelsey stuff, baby gronk that's always very dangerous. Dalton 123 00:05:20,388 --> 00:05:22,988 Speaker 1: Kinkad could be a perennial pro bowler and that's probably 124 00:05:23,108 --> 00:05:24,908 Speaker 1: not still going to be Travis kelce But I do 125 00:05:25,028 --> 00:05:27,108 Speaker 1: like what he does to the offense. I think they 126 00:05:27,108 --> 00:05:29,548 Speaker 1: were pretty close last year, and I think Josh got 127 00:05:29,588 --> 00:05:31,348 Speaker 1: some more toys to play with more than Joe did, 128 00:05:31,348 --> 00:05:33,468 Speaker 1: so I will give him that in a tiebreaker. 129 00:05:33,828 --> 00:05:37,508 Speaker 2: I think despite Josh Allen getting more toys to play 130 00:05:37,508 --> 00:05:38,348 Speaker 2: within this draft. 131 00:05:38,388 --> 00:05:40,108 Speaker 3: I think Joe Burrow, like you know, when you're doing 132 00:05:40,108 --> 00:05:41,948 Speaker 3: a workout and you do like the legs, step ups 133 00:05:42,028 --> 00:05:42,388 Speaker 3: on them. 134 00:05:42,748 --> 00:05:45,868 Speaker 2: So I think it was I think Patrick Mahomes is 135 00:05:45,908 --> 00:05:47,988 Speaker 2: already up on the step. I think Burrow had his 136 00:05:48,148 --> 00:05:49,988 Speaker 2: foot up there, and I think Josh Allen was still 137 00:05:50,028 --> 00:05:52,788 Speaker 2: down here. So the fact that Burrow, maybe Josh Allen 138 00:05:52,828 --> 00:05:55,428 Speaker 2: got his foot up on that step with the new 139 00:05:55,468 --> 00:05:56,868 Speaker 2: toys that he got in the draft, But I think 140 00:05:56,868 --> 00:05:58,988 Speaker 2: it's Joe Burrow. I think because of the games as 141 00:05:58,788 --> 00:06:02,588 Speaker 2: he's beaten Patrick Mahomes in I think it's a travesty 142 00:06:02,668 --> 00:06:04,388 Speaker 2: that he hasn't gotten. 143 00:06:04,468 --> 00:06:06,188 Speaker 3: I know he's been to a Super Bowl, but hasn't one. 144 00:06:06,268 --> 00:06:08,668 Speaker 5: One is just Jamie. The last game, he was much 145 00:06:08,668 --> 00:06:10,868 Speaker 5: better than Josh Allen in Buffalo. That's just a fact. 146 00:06:11,188 --> 00:06:13,908 Speaker 2: So I think he's closer to getting up to that level. 147 00:06:13,948 --> 00:06:16,548 Speaker 2: If you had to hold Patrick Mahomes down, I think 148 00:06:16,548 --> 00:06:20,308 Speaker 2: we're always closer than Josh Allen is to getting up there. 149 00:06:21,788 --> 00:06:25,108 Speaker 2: Those three yesterday. Yesterday things got a little tense on set. 150 00:06:25,628 --> 00:06:29,028 Speaker 2: Sorry Kyle, when I expressed my disdain for not it 151 00:06:29,068 --> 00:06:31,108 Speaker 2: wasn't it is for Kyle's taste of music. 152 00:06:31,748 --> 00:06:32,748 Speaker 3: It was distained. 153 00:06:34,148 --> 00:06:36,268 Speaker 5: You disdain my taste of music or just don't relate. 154 00:06:36,788 --> 00:06:38,268 Speaker 3: I relate. 155 00:06:38,308 --> 00:06:42,548 Speaker 5: I didn't feel this day's today. So Jimi doesn't have 156 00:06:42,548 --> 00:06:44,548 Speaker 5: an ounce of disdain in her body. That's not who. 157 00:06:44,428 --> 00:06:48,988 Speaker 2: Jamie is of sewing more musical division amongst friends. Here's 158 00:06:49,028 --> 00:06:53,588 Speaker 2: throw down number. Which concert would you rather attend? Tool 159 00:06:54,068 --> 00:06:57,388 Speaker 2: or Taylor Swift? Folks know where Kyle and Brent and 160 00:06:57,388 --> 00:07:00,548 Speaker 2: I stand on this, so please, Michael, Jason present your 161 00:07:00,588 --> 00:07:02,388 Speaker 2: cases and then we had to decide. 162 00:07:03,268 --> 00:07:04,828 Speaker 3: Kyle make your case for Tall. 163 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:08,788 Speaker 1: Okay, I would love to attend a Taylor Swift concert. 164 00:07:08,788 --> 00:07:10,788 Speaker 1: I have no coure with Taylor Swift. I listen to 165 00:07:10,908 --> 00:07:12,908 Speaker 1: music all the time my family. I'm gonna tell you 166 00:07:12,948 --> 00:07:14,748 Speaker 1: guys on this, here's what I get. I'm not gonna 167 00:07:14,748 --> 00:07:19,428 Speaker 1: touch the music. I'm not gonna touch anything. Friday night concert. Okay, Mike, 168 00:07:19,468 --> 00:07:21,988 Speaker 1: you've been working all week, You're doing this show. They're 169 00:07:22,028 --> 00:07:24,788 Speaker 1: slapping you down to Philly. You have the kids at home. Jason, 170 00:07:25,468 --> 00:07:27,148 Speaker 1: you're doing a million segments when you're up at the 171 00:07:27,148 --> 00:07:30,228 Speaker 1: screen dissecting some old tape of what you're just you're gassed. 172 00:07:30,748 --> 00:07:31,228 Speaker 5: Friday Night. 173 00:07:31,308 --> 00:07:33,668 Speaker 1: You can go to Taylor Swift concert that is gonna 174 00:07:33,708 --> 00:07:37,068 Speaker 1: last three hours and forty four minutes, three forty four 175 00:07:37,108 --> 00:07:42,508 Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift with innumerable countless young teeny bopper girls. 176 00:07:42,668 --> 00:07:45,268 Speaker 1: Or you go to Tool I'm gonna have you out 177 00:07:45,308 --> 00:07:47,948 Speaker 1: of there in two hours. There is no opening band, 178 00:07:48,308 --> 00:07:50,828 Speaker 1: there is no encore. They play the last song. Let's 179 00:07:50,828 --> 00:07:52,588 Speaker 1: come on, everybody, go the hell home. It is a 180 00:07:52,668 --> 00:07:56,388 Speaker 1: concise night. You're going to bed early. The babysitter's cheaper. 181 00:07:56,628 --> 00:07:58,748 Speaker 1: The music is what the music is. But I'm gonna 182 00:07:58,748 --> 00:08:00,708 Speaker 1: appeal to you guys on a practical level, and all 183 00:08:00,748 --> 00:08:01,348 Speaker 1: of you as well. 184 00:08:01,508 --> 00:08:03,148 Speaker 5: It's a nice, tight evening. 185 00:08:03,148 --> 00:08:04,948 Speaker 1: We can get dinner, get home, go to sleep, and 186 00:08:04,988 --> 00:08:06,628 Speaker 1: see a great show with beautiful musicians. 187 00:08:06,628 --> 00:08:07,348 Speaker 5: That's my pitch. 188 00:08:07,628 --> 00:08:11,428 Speaker 2: So your concert doesn't have enough songs that are that 189 00:08:11,508 --> 00:08:13,868 Speaker 2: people want to attend for long. 190 00:08:13,708 --> 00:08:18,348 Speaker 5: Enough, neither tail you're three four. I don't care if. 191 00:08:18,228 --> 00:08:19,908 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson crawls that from the Dead and does a 192 00:08:19,948 --> 00:08:20,668 Speaker 1: concert with Elvis. 193 00:08:20,948 --> 00:08:23,748 Speaker 2: The woman is pulling music, and the tour is called 194 00:08:23,908 --> 00:08:26,868 Speaker 2: eras because she couldn't put just a single title on 195 00:08:26,868 --> 00:08:31,108 Speaker 2: the tour. Because it amasses six catalogs, six albums of 196 00:08:31,108 --> 00:08:33,668 Speaker 2: hers that she was unable to tour during the pandemic, 197 00:08:33,748 --> 00:08:36,268 Speaker 2: which is why it takes three forty four with no breaks. 198 00:08:36,348 --> 00:08:36,828 Speaker 3: Mind you. 199 00:08:36,908 --> 00:08:39,548 Speaker 2: In Christian lubaton heels, she goes. 200 00:08:39,388 --> 00:08:41,028 Speaker 3: Over fi genres. 201 00:08:41,388 --> 00:08:42,948 Speaker 4: I think it's so that's a weird number. 202 00:08:44,388 --> 00:08:44,508 Speaker 8: Is. 203 00:08:44,548 --> 00:08:48,828 Speaker 2: There is musicality, there is beautiful lyrics, there is artistry. 204 00:08:48,948 --> 00:08:52,188 Speaker 2: She dives into her stage at one point. She has 205 00:08:52,628 --> 00:08:55,668 Speaker 2: boxes of herself in all these different eras. If you 206 00:08:55,708 --> 00:08:57,868 Speaker 2: don't want to go be entertained by somebody, if you 207 00:08:57,868 --> 00:08:59,908 Speaker 2: have a great ticket, don't mind the teeny boppers, it 208 00:08:59,908 --> 00:09:01,788 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. If you can afford and tell her Swift ticket, 209 00:09:01,788 --> 00:09:04,028 Speaker 2: then you can afford your babysitter staying longer at your house. 210 00:09:04,148 --> 00:09:05,308 Speaker 3: Go to a Taylor Swift concent I. 211 00:09:05,308 --> 00:09:08,628 Speaker 6: Don't know if you were going to breathe daring your Yeah, 212 00:09:09,388 --> 00:09:09,748 Speaker 6: that's good. 213 00:09:09,748 --> 00:09:12,148 Speaker 4: Where am I sitting for tool? Am I in the 214 00:09:12,188 --> 00:09:14,188 Speaker 4: mosh pit? Because that's definitely what I think. 215 00:09:14,428 --> 00:09:16,348 Speaker 1: I think, No, I think, well, there's much of a 216 00:09:16,388 --> 00:09:18,148 Speaker 1: mosh pit anymore though. Twol fans are guys in their 217 00:09:18,188 --> 00:09:20,228 Speaker 1: forties and fifties. It's like you, Mike, like it's chill. 218 00:09:20,428 --> 00:09:21,668 Speaker 1: It's not going to be a lot of that. But 219 00:09:21,748 --> 00:09:23,628 Speaker 1: let's just assume for the exercise that you have really 220 00:09:23,628 --> 00:09:25,348 Speaker 1: good tickets for both venus whatever you want. 221 00:09:25,428 --> 00:09:26,668 Speaker 5: I want to be in a suite. It's the end 222 00:09:26,708 --> 00:09:28,508 Speaker 5: of a long time. I'm in a suite for both. 223 00:09:28,668 --> 00:09:30,828 Speaker 4: If you want not to be catered, I just want 224 00:09:30,868 --> 00:09:33,228 Speaker 4: to be in a sweep. I've been to a Taylor 225 00:09:33,268 --> 00:09:33,868 Speaker 4: Swift concert. 226 00:09:33,988 --> 00:09:35,668 Speaker 5: Ah. Ok the direct. 227 00:09:35,308 --> 00:09:39,508 Speaker 4: TV Super Bowl show in Houston, I believe it was. 228 00:09:39,548 --> 00:09:41,748 Speaker 5: I went with my wife. It was confetti flying. 229 00:09:41,868 --> 00:09:43,988 Speaker 4: She announced to the crowd it was her only show 230 00:09:43,988 --> 00:09:45,268 Speaker 4: of the year, and I was like, boy, I feel 231 00:09:45,268 --> 00:09:47,628 Speaker 4: pretty much to be here. It was a fantastic show. 232 00:09:48,028 --> 00:09:49,708 Speaker 4: Are you regretting that you weren't there? I mean, you're 233 00:09:50,108 --> 00:09:51,068 Speaker 4: you're writhing over. 234 00:09:51,348 --> 00:09:52,348 Speaker 7: I am, I'm sorry. 235 00:09:52,308 --> 00:09:54,228 Speaker 5: I didn't mean to rub in jealousy. 236 00:09:54,308 --> 00:09:55,668 Speaker 4: Okay, it was also a free ticket. 237 00:09:55,748 --> 00:09:56,588 Speaker 5: I mean it was. 238 00:09:57,948 --> 00:09:59,908 Speaker 4: It would be Taylor Swift awesome. 239 00:09:59,908 --> 00:10:00,548 Speaker 5: I would go again. 240 00:10:01,548 --> 00:10:07,148 Speaker 6: Three hours forty four pure joy, two hours. 241 00:10:06,868 --> 00:10:08,548 Speaker 5: Two hours, respectful of people's time. 242 00:10:08,668 --> 00:10:09,708 Speaker 7: Take it a lot cheaper? 243 00:10:10,508 --> 00:10:13,508 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, way cheaper. That's a that's a big 244 00:10:13,548 --> 00:10:16,948 Speaker 5: part of it. Way cheaper, like a quarter of the price. 245 00:10:16,988 --> 00:10:18,908 Speaker 2: Maybe you played thirteen years the other fall you wont 246 00:10:18,908 --> 00:10:19,708 Speaker 2: a super Bowl. 247 00:10:19,828 --> 00:10:20,868 Speaker 5: Jamie spending your money. 248 00:10:20,868 --> 00:10:24,348 Speaker 6: Now, you got to decide what's worth it and what's not. 249 00:10:24,548 --> 00:10:26,788 Speaker 6: So if I'm gonna go to a concert, this Friday 250 00:10:26,868 --> 00:10:29,788 Speaker 6: night concert starts at eight, I can go to the 251 00:10:29,828 --> 00:10:33,428 Speaker 6: Tool concert and still have my Friday night until something 252 00:10:33,508 --> 00:10:36,028 Speaker 6: that like Friday is single to my may. 253 00:10:36,548 --> 00:10:37,828 Speaker 7: I can go to the Tool. 254 00:10:37,668 --> 00:10:42,388 Speaker 1: Concert get all like that Guy er Man or James 255 00:10:42,468 --> 00:10:43,348 Speaker 1: Keenan Taylor. 256 00:10:43,108 --> 00:10:45,588 Speaker 7: Taylor Swift concert. That picture alone, do you think he 257 00:10:45,668 --> 00:10:46,428 Speaker 7: was the tailor? 258 00:10:46,748 --> 00:10:46,988 Speaker 8: He was? 259 00:10:47,668 --> 00:10:49,628 Speaker 5: That's the best timer in the world. On the right there, Denny. 260 00:10:49,468 --> 00:10:53,668 Speaker 6: Carries me and k b Are at the Tool concert 261 00:10:53,988 --> 00:10:57,028 Speaker 6: Friday night. We're we do our two hours at Tool 262 00:10:57,108 --> 00:10:59,388 Speaker 6: and then we just take over the town and we 263 00:10:59,588 --> 00:11:02,428 Speaker 6: go out and we have a great time afterwards. 264 00:11:02,868 --> 00:11:05,828 Speaker 4: Three hours and forty four minutes long. Best drummer in 265 00:11:05,868 --> 00:11:08,948 Speaker 4: the world, within the world, Yes, without a doubt, really yeah, 266 00:11:08,948 --> 00:11:10,748 Speaker 4: I mean we can get into side bar lars. 267 00:11:10,828 --> 00:11:15,148 Speaker 5: No, no, no, he'd be and I don't. That's insulted. 268 00:11:15,348 --> 00:11:17,788 Speaker 6: I didn't know Star Wars like now, let me let 269 00:11:17,868 --> 00:11:18,708 Speaker 6: him educate me. 270 00:11:18,948 --> 00:11:21,148 Speaker 7: No no, no, no, no, no, I know I know tail. 271 00:11:20,988 --> 00:11:24,708 Speaker 2: Us with he literally his approach was getting you home. 272 00:11:24,548 --> 00:11:28,948 Speaker 5: Faster, but I know your audience. Now, I know you 273 00:11:28,948 --> 00:11:30,628 Speaker 5: guys want to city? 274 00:11:31,668 --> 00:11:33,668 Speaker 3: That was that was a blasted when Twitter? 275 00:11:33,708 --> 00:11:36,668 Speaker 5: You want to go? So the Taylor's touring Tool. 276 00:11:36,428 --> 00:11:38,828 Speaker 1: Is headline in a massive festival out of Coachella, Like. 277 00:11:39,388 --> 00:11:40,348 Speaker 6: We take it to Twitter? 278 00:11:40,428 --> 00:11:43,148 Speaker 5: I mean, what do you mean? Let's let's see how 279 00:11:43,148 --> 00:11:44,028 Speaker 5: it comes the generations? 280 00:11:44,028 --> 00:11:44,268 Speaker 3: Who do you? 281 00:11:44,308 --> 00:11:44,468 Speaker 9: Who? 282 00:11:44,708 --> 00:11:45,908 Speaker 7: Who did you say is going to be at the 283 00:11:45,908 --> 00:11:46,548 Speaker 7: Tool concert? 284 00:11:46,828 --> 00:11:50,188 Speaker 5: Tool Metallica a c D. What kind of fans you said? 285 00:11:50,308 --> 00:11:50,748 Speaker 7: Democratic? 286 00:11:50,788 --> 00:11:53,468 Speaker 6: Guys like me, like you're not spending a ton of 287 00:11:53,468 --> 00:11:55,348 Speaker 6: your time on Twitter, like they're going to vote. 288 00:11:55,388 --> 00:11:58,148 Speaker 2: Whereas whereas there is a plethora of people who are 289 00:11:58,188 --> 00:11:59,148 Speaker 2: buying tickets to go. 290 00:11:59,228 --> 00:12:03,748 Speaker 6: But wait, no guys like me experience Sorry, there's no 291 00:12:03,828 --> 00:12:05,148 Speaker 6: guys like you had the Tool. 292 00:12:04,988 --> 00:12:08,708 Speaker 1: Concert ex athletes yea, fathers, Yeah, there'll be ton Okay, 293 00:12:08,748 --> 00:12:09,548 Speaker 1: what are you referring to? 294 00:12:09,748 --> 00:12:11,188 Speaker 6: Just say you say guys like you. I want to 295 00:12:11,188 --> 00:12:13,668 Speaker 6: make sure if I'm going there, I feel comfortable. There's 296 00:12:13,708 --> 00:12:16,348 Speaker 6: guys like me and the crowd. We can bond and 297 00:12:16,428 --> 00:12:16,868 Speaker 6: enjoy it. 298 00:12:19,148 --> 00:12:23,708 Speaker 1: Guys like you, Nah, I'm gonna I'm biting my tongue 299 00:12:28,468 --> 00:12:31,468 Speaker 1: takes the snap play fake the Barkley Jones rolls to 300 00:12:31,548 --> 00:12:33,428 Speaker 1: his left, gets a flock from Thomas. He said the 301 00:12:33,468 --> 00:12:35,988 Speaker 1: five Jones races in touchdown Giants. 302 00:12:36,148 --> 00:12:39,428 Speaker 4: Takes the snap, rolls right, shovel past to Barkley. Barkley 303 00:12:39,508 --> 00:12:43,468 Speaker 4: in with a two pointed version. Oh little shovel past 304 00:12:43,548 --> 00:12:46,068 Speaker 4: this sake one, and then he did the rest back 305 00:12:46,148 --> 00:12:48,228 Speaker 4: to throw. He's got the pressure sacked by Tibodeau. 306 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:50,788 Speaker 8: The balls loose on the ground, scooped. 307 00:12:50,508 --> 00:12:52,348 Speaker 4: Up for the end zone for a touchdown. 308 00:12:52,988 --> 00:12:56,108 Speaker 1: Came on Thibodeau with the sack, the forest buffle, and 309 00:12:56,148 --> 00:12:58,908 Speaker 1: then the touchdown and the Giant fans rejoicing. 310 00:13:03,108 --> 00:13:05,868 Speaker 4: Our next guest is finishing second draft as a general 311 00:13:05,908 --> 00:13:08,028 Speaker 4: manager of the New York Giants. He has over twenty 312 00:13:08,108 --> 00:13:11,068 Speaker 4: years of scouting uh an executive experience in the NFL. 313 00:13:11,108 --> 00:13:14,348 Speaker 4: Please welcome friend of the show. Giants general manager Joe Shaye. 314 00:13:15,708 --> 00:13:15,908 Speaker 9: True. 315 00:13:17,668 --> 00:13:18,428 Speaker 7: Thanks for having me. 316 00:13:18,588 --> 00:13:20,988 Speaker 4: Everybody, Yes, thank you for joining us. You heard some 317 00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:23,588 Speaker 4: cheers there, maybe some applause back in the control room. 318 00:13:23,828 --> 00:13:27,308 Speaker 4: I didn't cheer. I didn't applaud. You know why because 319 00:13:27,308 --> 00:13:29,868 Speaker 4: today is Thursday. That's what one, two, three, four, five 320 00:13:29,948 --> 00:13:32,188 Speaker 4: days after the draft, and a quote from you Joe 321 00:13:32,188 --> 00:13:35,308 Speaker 4: the other day. The praise last about two days. You 322 00:13:35,348 --> 00:13:37,468 Speaker 4: don't win games in April, So what have you done 323 00:13:37,508 --> 00:13:38,948 Speaker 4: the last couple of days, Joe, That's what we want 324 00:13:38,988 --> 00:13:39,148 Speaker 4: to know. 325 00:13:40,748 --> 00:13:41,708 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I just this. 326 00:13:42,068 --> 00:13:45,228 Speaker 7: You love all the draft gurus and everybody talking about 327 00:13:45,228 --> 00:13:46,828 Speaker 7: the draft and the grades and all that stuff. That's 328 00:13:46,908 --> 00:13:50,308 Speaker 7: very exciting for the team. And we're always obviously excited 329 00:13:50,308 --> 00:13:52,028 Speaker 7: about our draft class and some of the new players 330 00:13:52,028 --> 00:13:53,908 Speaker 7: we acquired, but we have a long way to go 331 00:13:53,948 --> 00:13:57,308 Speaker 7: in terms of building the team, chemistry, the off season program. 332 00:13:57,508 --> 00:13:59,188 Speaker 7: You know what we do in August. Those guys got 333 00:13:59,188 --> 00:14:00,228 Speaker 7: a long way to go. They got to come in 334 00:14:00,268 --> 00:14:02,508 Speaker 7: and compete for jobs. But we're really excited the way 335 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:05,628 Speaker 7: the weekend worked worked out for us, and really look 336 00:14:05,628 --> 00:14:07,508 Speaker 7: forward to getting those guys in actually come in today 337 00:14:07,548 --> 00:14:10,388 Speaker 7: for a rookie MINTI camp this weekend, So really looking 338 00:14:10,428 --> 00:14:11,828 Speaker 7: forward to getting the guys in the building and get 339 00:14:11,868 --> 00:14:13,628 Speaker 7: moving towards the twenty twenty three season. 340 00:14:14,748 --> 00:14:17,788 Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about those draft picks specifically, and seriously. 341 00:14:17,828 --> 00:14:20,388 Speaker 4: You filled several big needs during the draft, including corner, 342 00:14:20,588 --> 00:14:21,628 Speaker 4: offensive line. 343 00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:21,988 Speaker 5: And wide out. 344 00:14:22,028 --> 00:14:24,388 Speaker 4: What are your takeaways when you see this full screen 345 00:14:24,388 --> 00:14:26,188 Speaker 4: pop up and all these names up there in the screen. 346 00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:31,228 Speaker 7: Yeah, really excited. Yeah, corner was a big need. Center 347 00:14:31,348 --> 00:14:34,548 Speaker 7: was a potential need. We have confidence in some of 348 00:14:34,588 --> 00:14:37,068 Speaker 7: the guys here with Ben Brettison who was who has 349 00:14:37,108 --> 00:14:39,388 Speaker 7: played some center for us. And you know, then receiver 350 00:14:39,508 --> 00:14:41,748 Speaker 7: as well was an error where we want to do 351 00:14:42,388 --> 00:14:44,188 Speaker 7: try to improve in the off season and improve our 352 00:14:44,228 --> 00:14:46,868 Speaker 7: team speed. In those first three picks, I think it 353 00:14:46,988 --> 00:14:48,988 Speaker 7: just really worked out in terms of, you know, need 354 00:14:49,028 --> 00:14:50,908 Speaker 7: met the value where we had guys on the board, 355 00:14:50,988 --> 00:14:54,908 Speaker 7: and when the opportunity came to draft those three players 356 00:14:54,908 --> 00:14:56,948 Speaker 7: specifically in the first rounds, it made a lot of sense. 357 00:14:56,948 --> 00:14:59,188 Speaker 7: And it also you know, crossed off a couple needs 358 00:14:59,228 --> 00:14:59,628 Speaker 7: that we had. 359 00:15:01,028 --> 00:15:02,668 Speaker 1: It's a great looking draft, Joe, and you should be 360 00:15:02,708 --> 00:15:05,108 Speaker 1: proud of yourself and the organization. I got bad news. 361 00:15:05,148 --> 00:15:07,028 Speaker 1: The Jets have already won the super Bowl, They've already 362 00:15:07,028 --> 00:15:09,788 Speaker 1: won the town. These things are one by going to 363 00:15:09,868 --> 00:15:12,668 Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden in May and getting big famous quarterback. 364 00:15:12,668 --> 00:15:14,428 Speaker 5: That's just the bad news. I'm sorry. 365 00:15:14,708 --> 00:15:17,428 Speaker 1: In the meantime, while they've been galivanting all around the 366 00:15:17,428 --> 00:15:18,988 Speaker 1: city and making headlines, you guys have. 367 00:15:18,948 --> 00:15:21,228 Speaker 5: Been keeping your head down and going to work. 368 00:15:21,548 --> 00:15:25,788 Speaker 1: How would you contrast the off seasons right now between 369 00:15:25,828 --> 00:15:27,668 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Giants here in New York. 370 00:15:28,028 --> 00:15:31,388 Speaker 7: Listen, I like those you know, Joe Douglas, Salah, you know, 371 00:15:31,428 --> 00:15:33,348 Speaker 7: friends with both of those guys. You know they're doing 372 00:15:33,348 --> 00:15:35,388 Speaker 7: a great job over there. But again, we can only 373 00:15:35,388 --> 00:15:37,108 Speaker 7: control what we can control. And you know, we got 374 00:15:37,108 --> 00:15:39,068 Speaker 7: our head down, We're rolling our sleeves up. Every day, 375 00:15:39,108 --> 00:15:41,468 Speaker 7: we're going to work. We're trying to incrementally get you know, 376 00:15:41,508 --> 00:15:45,148 Speaker 7: get the roster better each day we can, whether it's 377 00:15:45,148 --> 00:15:47,948 Speaker 7: in the building, lifting, running the off season program. We're 378 00:15:48,028 --> 00:15:50,548 Speaker 7: very fortunate to have continuity amongst our staff. You know, 379 00:15:50,588 --> 00:15:54,148 Speaker 7: Wink Martindell return, Mike Kafka, you know, all three coordinators 380 00:15:54,188 --> 00:15:56,668 Speaker 7: are back. So I think that's very important. So again, 381 00:15:57,388 --> 00:15:59,748 Speaker 7: Daves and I both you know, very blue collar upbringings. 382 00:15:59,788 --> 00:16:01,148 Speaker 7: You know, we're gonna come to work every day. We're 383 00:16:01,148 --> 00:16:03,148 Speaker 7: gonna roll up our sleeves. We're never going to be complacent. 384 00:16:03,188 --> 00:16:05,188 Speaker 7: We're going to continue to try to roof you know, 385 00:16:05,268 --> 00:16:07,908 Speaker 7: the roster of the organization, and we're just going to 386 00:16:07,948 --> 00:16:09,228 Speaker 7: go to work every day, and you know, I think 387 00:16:09,228 --> 00:16:11,428 Speaker 7: the results will hopefully speak for themselves. 388 00:16:11,428 --> 00:16:14,148 Speaker 6: Getting better day by day and control what you can control. 389 00:16:14,228 --> 00:16:16,788 Speaker 6: I love that, and you guys are under some control. 390 00:16:16,868 --> 00:16:20,108 Speaker 6: You place a franchise tag on Saquon Barkley, He's yet 391 00:16:20,148 --> 00:16:23,428 Speaker 6: to sign that tender. Have there been any conversations in 392 00:16:23,468 --> 00:16:26,628 Speaker 6: the last few days about a contract and everything upcoming 393 00:16:26,668 --> 00:16:27,948 Speaker 6: for him in the New York Giants. 394 00:16:28,628 --> 00:16:31,428 Speaker 7: Yeah, we talked with his representatives last week. You know, 395 00:16:31,428 --> 00:16:33,948 Speaker 7: we had initial talks on where we might be in 396 00:16:34,028 --> 00:16:36,628 Speaker 7: terms of numbers or you know, trying to get something done, 397 00:16:36,628 --> 00:16:39,628 Speaker 7: what the appetite is to get a deal done, and 398 00:16:39,988 --> 00:16:42,548 Speaker 7: we said, hey, we'll step back, let the draft take place, 399 00:16:42,868 --> 00:16:45,668 Speaker 7: and then we'll circle back up. So at some point 400 00:16:45,748 --> 00:16:47,588 Speaker 7: over the next couple of days, you know, well we'll 401 00:16:47,628 --> 00:16:49,988 Speaker 7: circle back up. We'll have some conversations in terms of 402 00:16:50,108 --> 00:16:51,828 Speaker 7: you know, where we are, where they may be, and 403 00:16:52,308 --> 00:16:54,868 Speaker 7: see if we can get something done. Listen, Like, Saquan's 404 00:16:55,028 --> 00:16:58,748 Speaker 7: a very good football player. He's you know, captain last year. 405 00:16:58,868 --> 00:17:01,348 Speaker 7: You know, he's a good locker room guy. I love him. 406 00:17:01,428 --> 00:17:03,628 Speaker 7: We want him to be here, and you know, but 407 00:17:03,668 --> 00:17:05,308 Speaker 7: you got to have a deal where both parties are 408 00:17:05,308 --> 00:17:07,668 Speaker 7: happy with you know, where he end up. And that's 409 00:17:07,708 --> 00:17:08,988 Speaker 7: what we're going to try to work for. And see, 410 00:17:08,988 --> 00:17:10,908 Speaker 7: I see if we can get something with we both 411 00:17:10,948 --> 00:17:11,308 Speaker 7: agree on. 412 00:17:12,548 --> 00:17:12,708 Speaker 8: Well. 413 00:17:12,748 --> 00:17:15,028 Speaker 2: The unique part about Joe being back in early March 414 00:17:15,108 --> 00:17:16,828 Speaker 2: is that you had a decision make to make to 415 00:17:17,068 --> 00:17:20,548 Speaker 2: franchise tag either Saquon Barkley or Daniel Jones. Obviously with 416 00:17:20,588 --> 00:17:23,428 Speaker 2: Barkley because Daniel Jones then got the four year contract. 417 00:17:23,428 --> 00:17:26,908 Speaker 2: We had conversations early last season about what Daniel Jones 418 00:17:26,908 --> 00:17:29,948 Speaker 2: had to do and show to earn himself that kind 419 00:17:29,988 --> 00:17:31,268 Speaker 2: of commitment from the Giants. 420 00:17:31,308 --> 00:17:33,308 Speaker 3: So what was that style of play? 421 00:17:33,348 --> 00:17:35,148 Speaker 2: What did you get from him that told you that 422 00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:37,188 Speaker 2: he was going to be your guy of the future. 423 00:17:37,788 --> 00:17:39,628 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think when you look at Daniel last year, again, 424 00:17:39,628 --> 00:17:40,908 Speaker 7: a lot of people want to get hung up on 425 00:17:40,908 --> 00:17:43,948 Speaker 7: the fifteen touchdowns and you know, maybe that wasn't you know, 426 00:17:44,068 --> 00:17:46,228 Speaker 7: numbers that people would see making what he's going to make. 427 00:17:46,308 --> 00:17:48,588 Speaker 7: But you know what he did do is he was 428 00:17:48,628 --> 00:17:50,788 Speaker 7: able to move move the offense with his arm and 429 00:17:50,788 --> 00:17:55,188 Speaker 7: his feet. He's very athletic, he's still young. Leadership wise, 430 00:17:55,228 --> 00:17:57,748 Speaker 7: he was a captain and the biggest thing for me 431 00:17:57,828 --> 00:17:59,428 Speaker 7: was he took care of the football. You know, we 432 00:17:59,428 --> 00:18:01,228 Speaker 7: were a team that didn't have a large margin for 433 00:18:01,268 --> 00:18:04,228 Speaker 7: air in terms of margin of victory and you know, 434 00:18:04,508 --> 00:18:08,108 Speaker 7: room to have airs and overcome adversity or difficult situations 435 00:18:08,148 --> 00:18:10,188 Speaker 7: within a game. And he took care of the football. 436 00:18:10,228 --> 00:18:13,548 Speaker 7: He had multiple fourth quarter comebacks, made big time plays 437 00:18:13,548 --> 00:18:15,348 Speaker 7: for us on third down when you know he's got 438 00:18:15,348 --> 00:18:17,668 Speaker 7: to have it moments. So I'm excited about Daniel and 439 00:18:17,708 --> 00:18:19,788 Speaker 7: his growth. And you know, hopefully we upgraded some of 440 00:18:19,828 --> 00:18:22,668 Speaker 7: the offensive skill set around him. And you know, again 441 00:18:22,708 --> 00:18:24,468 Speaker 7: we've got a lot of confidence in Daniel and I'm 442 00:18:24,468 --> 00:18:25,668 Speaker 7: looking forward seeing what he does in. 443 00:18:25,588 --> 00:18:29,148 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty three, Joe, your head coach, Brian Dable has 444 00:18:29,148 --> 00:18:31,828 Speaker 4: received tons of praise for the giants turn around. But 445 00:18:31,948 --> 00:18:34,948 Speaker 4: several weeks ago, your owner John Mara put it in perspective, 446 00:18:34,948 --> 00:18:35,628 Speaker 4: take a listen to this. 447 00:18:36,348 --> 00:18:38,868 Speaker 10: We kid him. I mean, right now he's Bono walking 448 00:18:38,908 --> 00:18:41,788 Speaker 10: around New York City. But I've told him, I said, 449 00:18:41,868 --> 00:18:44,228 Speaker 10: in this business, it doesn't take long. Ago from Bono 450 00:18:44,308 --> 00:18:49,588 Speaker 10: to Bozo said, don't get your head too big right now. 451 00:18:49,628 --> 00:18:52,668 Speaker 10: But no, he has been great, And I mean he 452 00:18:52,708 --> 00:18:55,068 Speaker 10: goes to he likes to go to Ranger games at 453 00:18:55,068 --> 00:18:57,348 Speaker 10: the Garden and they put his picture up there and 454 00:18:57,388 --> 00:19:01,068 Speaker 10: he gets these standing ovations. A week after week, So 455 00:19:01,108 --> 00:19:05,908 Speaker 10: it's it's a pretty cool thing to see. 456 00:19:04,788 --> 00:19:07,668 Speaker 4: John Marraw maybe one of the more underrated quotes in 457 00:19:07,708 --> 00:19:11,188 Speaker 4: the NFL. It's a fantastic quote. Is there any particular 458 00:19:11,268 --> 00:19:14,308 Speaker 4: moment that stands out to you over the past fifteen 459 00:19:14,348 --> 00:19:16,388 Speaker 4: months that you've shared with your head coach, whether it 460 00:19:16,428 --> 00:19:18,988 Speaker 4: was hugging after or win. I remember the celebration back 461 00:19:18,988 --> 00:19:20,868 Speaker 4: in Week one. I remember the celebration when you made 462 00:19:20,868 --> 00:19:22,348 Speaker 4: the playoffs, the plane ride home. 463 00:19:22,388 --> 00:19:23,148 Speaker 5: What stands out to you? 464 00:19:24,668 --> 00:19:27,388 Speaker 7: Yeah, first off, back on John's quote there, I text 465 00:19:27,468 --> 00:19:29,508 Speaker 7: him at the Rangers game last week because John was 466 00:19:29,508 --> 00:19:31,148 Speaker 7: at the game too, and I went with Dave's and 467 00:19:31,428 --> 00:19:33,068 Speaker 7: you know, I shot him at text said Bono's in 468 00:19:33,068 --> 00:19:35,108 Speaker 7: the building. So if you hear the crowd or that's 469 00:19:35,148 --> 00:19:37,868 Speaker 7: that's who it is. Bonos here. Daves and I have 470 00:19:37,948 --> 00:19:40,508 Speaker 7: a great relationship. I think the general manager head coach 471 00:19:40,548 --> 00:19:44,308 Speaker 7: relationship in that communication is very important, and Daves and 472 00:19:44,348 --> 00:19:46,428 Speaker 7: I have that. I just might My daughter just had 473 00:19:46,428 --> 00:19:48,228 Speaker 7: a birthday on Monday, so I was scrolling through some 474 00:19:48,268 --> 00:19:50,868 Speaker 7: pictures and you know, I came across, you know, our 475 00:19:50,908 --> 00:19:53,788 Speaker 7: Week one win versus Tennessee. So his first win as 476 00:19:53,828 --> 00:19:56,308 Speaker 7: a head coach. My first win as a general manager 477 00:19:56,748 --> 00:19:59,228 Speaker 7: and you know, being in his in the coach's locker 478 00:19:59,308 --> 00:20:01,628 Speaker 7: room afterwards, there's a great picture of him and I 479 00:20:01,748 --> 00:20:03,468 Speaker 7: hold in the game ball and I just you know, 480 00:20:03,588 --> 00:20:05,308 Speaker 7: all the hard work that you know, he had been 481 00:20:05,348 --> 00:20:07,428 Speaker 7: through through his career to get to that point, you know, 482 00:20:07,468 --> 00:20:10,508 Speaker 7: the hard work you know that I endured to get 483 00:20:10,508 --> 00:20:12,028 Speaker 7: where I was, and it was just a really cool 484 00:20:12,068 --> 00:20:15,268 Speaker 7: moment for the two of us to share, and that picture, 485 00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:16,908 Speaker 7: you know, is really cool to reflect on that. And 486 00:20:16,948 --> 00:20:18,588 Speaker 7: then of course we go out in the locker room 487 00:20:18,628 --> 00:20:21,548 Speaker 7: and there's videos of Dave's dancing the Biggie, you know, 488 00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:24,148 Speaker 7: the Juicy and everybody going after it. So that's one 489 00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:25,828 Speaker 7: of my favorite moments, you know, our first win as 490 00:20:25,908 --> 00:20:28,508 Speaker 7: GM and head coach, and it was a long time 491 00:20:28,548 --> 00:20:30,748 Speaker 7: coming and it was just a great moment to reflect upon. 492 00:20:32,188 --> 00:20:34,148 Speaker 6: Joel, I'm gonna assume you have the same level of 493 00:20:34,228 --> 00:20:36,988 Speaker 6: dance moves as Able and you can get in there 494 00:20:37,028 --> 00:20:40,708 Speaker 6: and dance to Juicy the best on Happy Birthday. Happy 495 00:20:40,748 --> 00:20:43,268 Speaker 6: Birthday to the door. I hope she had a really 496 00:20:43,268 --> 00:20:45,308 Speaker 6: good one. And I know what it's like. You're going 497 00:20:45,348 --> 00:20:47,548 Speaker 6: through those pictures over the years of how much they're 498 00:20:47,588 --> 00:20:50,668 Speaker 6: growing and over the years for the Giants franchise, you 499 00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:53,188 Speaker 6: guys haven't won many playoff games, which you got your 500 00:20:53,228 --> 00:20:56,908 Speaker 6: first one since Super Bowl forty six, and managing those 501 00:20:56,948 --> 00:21:00,068 Speaker 6: type of results and going into next year expectations, do 502 00:21:00,148 --> 00:21:02,228 Speaker 6: you think they're gonna be higher or what going into 503 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:03,508 Speaker 6: this twenty twenty three season. 504 00:21:04,788 --> 00:21:07,028 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great question, and naturally I think they 505 00:21:07,028 --> 00:21:09,108 Speaker 7: will be higher. And you know when we came in here, 506 00:21:09,388 --> 00:21:11,188 Speaker 7: you know what we talked about was let's just have progress. 507 00:21:11,188 --> 00:21:13,228 Speaker 7: We got to keep getting better. Again, I said, day 508 00:21:13,228 --> 00:21:15,108 Speaker 7: by day earlier and control what we can control. I 509 00:21:15,148 --> 00:21:18,188 Speaker 7: truly believe in that. And you know, throughout the off season, 510 00:21:18,228 --> 00:21:20,668 Speaker 7: once we're free agency draft, you know, hopefully we improve 511 00:21:20,708 --> 00:21:24,108 Speaker 7: the you know, the roster, and again there's Daves and 512 00:21:24,148 --> 00:21:27,108 Speaker 7: I all have high expectations for ourselves. So you know, 513 00:21:27,108 --> 00:21:28,828 Speaker 7: we put a lot of pressure on ourselves and our 514 00:21:28,868 --> 00:21:31,908 Speaker 7: staffs to reach a certain standard, and that I'll trickle 515 00:21:31,948 --> 00:21:34,348 Speaker 7: down to the players and they understand what the standard is. 516 00:21:34,388 --> 00:21:36,268 Speaker 7: And there's always going to be pressure in this business. 517 00:21:36,468 --> 00:21:38,828 Speaker 7: And every year is new. So again it's this twenty 518 00:21:38,868 --> 00:21:40,788 Speaker 7: twenty three team is going to be completely different than 519 00:21:40,828 --> 00:21:43,308 Speaker 7: the twenty twenty two team and it's up them, up 520 00:21:43,348 --> 00:21:45,308 Speaker 7: to them to you know, create their own team bond 521 00:21:45,308 --> 00:21:47,788 Speaker 7: and chemistry and the culture that we're going to have, 522 00:21:47,868 --> 00:21:49,828 Speaker 7: and we're doing that right now and if we can 523 00:21:49,868 --> 00:21:52,468 Speaker 7: continue to do that and stay healthy again, I just 524 00:21:52,548 --> 00:21:54,468 Speaker 7: want to continue to see progress and us continue to 525 00:21:54,508 --> 00:21:57,508 Speaker 7: get better, and you know, I'm optimistic about where we 526 00:21:57,548 --> 00:21:59,148 Speaker 7: are as a team and the talent that we have. 527 00:22:00,908 --> 00:22:03,388 Speaker 2: Joe, I love the sentiments you had for working with 528 00:22:03,428 --> 00:22:05,548 Speaker 2: Brian Dable and knowing him for as long as you had. 529 00:22:05,788 --> 00:22:09,028 Speaker 2: The appetite for fans seeing personality out of their coaches 530 00:22:09,068 --> 00:22:09,468 Speaker 2: and their. 531 00:22:09,348 --> 00:22:10,748 Speaker 3: Gms, I think is insatiable. 532 00:22:10,748 --> 00:22:13,588 Speaker 2: And you guys have been giving giants fans that specifically 533 00:22:13,668 --> 00:22:17,148 Speaker 2: Dable with the cigars, big cigar guy, sunglasses, greening fans. 534 00:22:17,508 --> 00:22:19,228 Speaker 2: Is Dable the kind of guy that has like a 535 00:22:19,388 --> 00:22:23,268 Speaker 2: Victory cigar collection or does he just grab one and 536 00:22:23,308 --> 00:22:25,268 Speaker 2: go like, how does this work? And do you have 537 00:22:25,308 --> 00:22:27,588 Speaker 2: anything that you kind of is that you like to 538 00:22:27,628 --> 00:22:28,788 Speaker 2: imbibe in after a while. 539 00:22:30,268 --> 00:22:32,628 Speaker 7: Yeah, if cigars were dollars in the amount that he gets, 540 00:22:32,668 --> 00:22:34,188 Speaker 7: you know, gets given to him, he'd be he'd be 541 00:22:34,228 --> 00:22:36,348 Speaker 7: a very rich man based on the amount of cigars 542 00:22:36,388 --> 00:22:39,268 Speaker 7: that he gets or or show up in packages to 543 00:22:39,388 --> 00:22:42,428 Speaker 7: his office. So yeah, he enjoys the cigar, the victory 544 00:22:42,468 --> 00:22:46,708 Speaker 7: cigar afterwards. Yeah, I'm not a cigar smoker. I'll have 545 00:22:46,788 --> 00:22:48,228 Speaker 7: one every now and then, but I end up paying 546 00:22:48,268 --> 00:22:51,268 Speaker 7: for it for about the next three weeks. So yeah, 547 00:22:51,308 --> 00:22:53,668 Speaker 7: you know, after the game again, just the way we're wired, 548 00:22:53,828 --> 00:22:56,428 Speaker 7: I naturally okay, how do we do this again? You know, 549 00:22:56,468 --> 00:22:58,268 Speaker 7: what are their injuries? How are we going to next week? 550 00:22:58,348 --> 00:23:00,308 Speaker 7: So it's really hard for me to step back and 551 00:23:00,748 --> 00:23:04,108 Speaker 7: enjoy it is you know, it's not really I probably 552 00:23:04,188 --> 00:23:05,508 Speaker 7: enjoy I need to enjoy it a little bit more 553 00:23:05,548 --> 00:23:07,348 Speaker 7: than I do. But you know, it's just natural. You 554 00:23:07,388 --> 00:23:09,308 Speaker 7: know that the weeks are so short. In each game, 555 00:23:09,828 --> 00:23:13,068 Speaker 7: the magnitude of each game is so big. I literally 556 00:23:13,068 --> 00:23:14,588 Speaker 7: sit on the buses and say, Okay, how can we 557 00:23:14,588 --> 00:23:16,108 Speaker 7: do this again? What do we need to do next week? 558 00:23:16,108 --> 00:23:17,948 Speaker 7: I'm already on to the next one. So I probably 559 00:23:17,988 --> 00:23:20,188 Speaker 7: should learn to enjoy those a little bit more because 560 00:23:20,188 --> 00:23:21,108 Speaker 7: they're really hard to come by. 561 00:23:22,508 --> 00:23:24,188 Speaker 1: There's a lot of times do enjoy it to come 562 00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:26,388 Speaker 1: my friend. Lastly, and thank you for being so generous 563 00:23:26,428 --> 00:23:26,828 Speaker 1: with your time. 564 00:23:26,908 --> 00:23:27,188 Speaker 5: Joe. 565 00:23:27,308 --> 00:23:29,348 Speaker 1: It's been a week now since the first round of 566 00:23:29,348 --> 00:23:31,428 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, and let's be honest, in the media, 567 00:23:31,508 --> 00:23:34,228 Speaker 1: it has been a seven day gush fest about the 568 00:23:34,268 --> 00:23:38,308 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles and Howie and they're so good and Roseman's 569 00:23:38,308 --> 00:23:40,508 Speaker 1: going to resign to be president, but he probably have. 570 00:23:40,508 --> 00:23:44,028 Speaker 5: Less power like Roseman is. Just he's gonna line up 571 00:23:44,068 --> 00:23:45,988 Speaker 5: super Bowls and the Eagles run beat him. Black up up. 572 00:23:46,188 --> 00:23:48,588 Speaker 5: You're gonna play him twice next year, maybe three times again. 573 00:23:49,508 --> 00:23:51,628 Speaker 1: What are your impressions of the early vision of the 574 00:23:51,628 --> 00:23:54,028 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Eagles, your division rival, and how do 575 00:23:54,028 --> 00:23:54,828 Speaker 1: you beat these guys? 576 00:23:56,668 --> 00:23:59,148 Speaker 7: Yeah, they they've done a good job this offseason and 577 00:23:59,228 --> 00:24:00,628 Speaker 7: you know the moves they you know, the biggest thing 578 00:24:00,628 --> 00:24:02,668 Speaker 7: I think is they have their quarterback in place for 579 00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:04,788 Speaker 7: the next couple of years. Just having through it a 580 00:24:04,828 --> 00:24:06,908 Speaker 7: couple times, whether I was in Buffalo with Josh Allen 581 00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:09,228 Speaker 7: or you know here, you know, getting your quarterback in 582 00:24:09,268 --> 00:24:11,308 Speaker 7: place and that those contracts aren't easy to get done. 583 00:24:11,308 --> 00:24:12,828 Speaker 7: So they were able to do that. Obviously, they have 584 00:24:12,868 --> 00:24:15,108 Speaker 7: good offensive weapons, and then they already had a good 585 00:24:15,148 --> 00:24:17,988 Speaker 7: defensive line, and then adding a couple guys in the 586 00:24:18,028 --> 00:24:20,308 Speaker 7: draft of the defensive line and bringing their corners back, 587 00:24:20,348 --> 00:24:22,428 Speaker 7: so again, they're they're going to run it back again again. 588 00:24:22,468 --> 00:24:24,628 Speaker 7: I think I think we've made ground, and you know again, 589 00:24:24,668 --> 00:24:26,708 Speaker 7: We're just gonna keep our head down. We're going to control, 590 00:24:26,708 --> 00:24:30,428 Speaker 7: we control and worry about what we can control inside 591 00:24:30,428 --> 00:24:32,628 Speaker 7: this building. And we're gonna come to work every day 592 00:24:32,668 --> 00:24:35,108 Speaker 7: and we'll see what happens this fall. But I'm looking 593 00:24:35,108 --> 00:24:37,988 Speaker 7: forward to, you know again, facing them twice this year. 594 00:24:41,308 --> 00:24:44,588 Speaker 2: Former Lions new Eagles running back DeAndre Swift spoke. 595 00:24:44,388 --> 00:24:46,148 Speaker 3: To the media yesterday in Philadelphia. 596 00:24:46,268 --> 00:24:48,788 Speaker 2: Swift was asked about running the ball behind the Eagles 597 00:24:48,868 --> 00:24:51,628 Speaker 2: offensive line, and he said, the thought of this is 598 00:24:51,708 --> 00:24:54,868 Speaker 2: keeping him up at night in a good way. 599 00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:57,868 Speaker 8: That was definitely kind of stayed up last couple of 600 00:24:57,908 --> 00:25:01,148 Speaker 8: nights just thinking about it. Like I said, great opportunity 601 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:04,668 Speaker 8: with offensive line, with this coaching staff, with I'm in 602 00:25:04,708 --> 00:25:06,668 Speaker 8: a great running back room for some foremost with the 603 00:25:06,668 --> 00:25:09,228 Speaker 8: guys that have been here. Like I said, I'm just 604 00:25:09,468 --> 00:25:12,348 Speaker 8: excited to get the work each day and be a 605 00:25:12,348 --> 00:25:13,108 Speaker 8: piece to the PLOSU. 606 00:25:15,428 --> 00:25:18,588 Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift, another Georgia product of Philadelphia native, though now 607 00:25:18,628 --> 00:25:21,068 Speaker 2: back playing for the Eagles. We just talked to Joe Shane. 608 00:25:21,068 --> 00:25:22,588 Speaker 2: I'm sure, he's thrilled about the fact that we are 609 00:25:22,588 --> 00:25:24,988 Speaker 2: now talking about the Eagles. But as the Giants, GM 610 00:25:25,068 --> 00:25:27,708 Speaker 2: just finished up his draft. The Eagles drafted great as 611 00:25:27,748 --> 00:25:30,108 Speaker 2: well to add the aforementioned DeAndre Swift as a part 612 00:25:30,108 --> 00:25:31,548 Speaker 2: of a trade with the Lions NFL. 613 00:25:31,868 --> 00:25:32,668 Speaker 3: They just got better. 614 00:25:32,708 --> 00:25:36,388 Speaker 2: Within this NFC East rivalry, Mike, Giants Eagles, where do 615 00:25:36,428 --> 00:25:37,148 Speaker 2: they stack up? 616 00:25:37,148 --> 00:25:38,748 Speaker 3: Do you think heading into twenty twenty. 617 00:25:38,468 --> 00:25:40,828 Speaker 4: Three the rivalry, I think it's gonna be great. And listen, 618 00:25:41,148 --> 00:25:44,708 Speaker 4: the game in East Rutherford got away from the Giants 619 00:25:44,748 --> 00:25:47,268 Speaker 4: a little bit. Sakuan was banged up going into that game. 620 00:25:47,268 --> 00:25:49,308 Speaker 4: They'd played a lot of close games that season. That 621 00:25:49,868 --> 00:25:51,988 Speaker 4: wasn't one of them. The playoff game as well. The 622 00:25:52,068 --> 00:25:55,708 Speaker 4: other one was just you know, backups playing for both teams, 623 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,388 Speaker 4: or for the Giants or for the eaglescuse me. 624 00:25:57,588 --> 00:25:59,668 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think. 625 00:25:59,468 --> 00:26:02,028 Speaker 4: It's I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna 626 00:26:02,028 --> 00:26:04,428 Speaker 4: be heated. I think there's some there's some when we 627 00:26:04,548 --> 00:26:06,828 Speaker 4: when Joe Shane hears about the Giants draft like that 628 00:26:06,868 --> 00:26:08,908 Speaker 4: gets the juices going in the off season. So this 629 00:26:08,948 --> 00:26:09,788 Speaker 4: is something I'm looking. 630 00:26:09,588 --> 00:26:10,268 Speaker 5: Forward to for sure. 631 00:26:10,348 --> 00:26:14,148 Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, it's within the Division Giants Eagles, like 632 00:26:14,188 --> 00:26:16,308 Speaker 6: they don't like each other, and like you just mentioned 633 00:26:16,588 --> 00:26:19,068 Speaker 6: the games last year to ending with the playoff game. 634 00:26:19,148 --> 00:26:21,788 Speaker 6: Right now, the Philadelphia Eagles, they are big brother and 635 00:26:21,788 --> 00:26:24,348 Speaker 6: they're looking down on the Giant slide. Yeah, you guys 636 00:26:24,348 --> 00:26:26,588 Speaker 6: got better in the draft in this offseason, but yeah 637 00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:29,148 Speaker 6: so did we. So they're public expected know's going to 638 00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:30,428 Speaker 6: be the same result. 639 00:26:30,468 --> 00:26:31,628 Speaker 5: But the rivalry, I. 640 00:26:31,548 --> 00:26:33,068 Speaker 6: Mean, that's why you tune in and that's why you 641 00:26:33,068 --> 00:26:33,708 Speaker 6: watch football. 642 00:26:33,708 --> 00:26:34,708 Speaker 5: It's much different stakes. 643 00:26:34,708 --> 00:26:36,148 Speaker 1: I can't think of the last time we were coming 644 00:26:36,148 --> 00:26:38,228 Speaker 1: off a season which the Eagles and Giants both had 645 00:26:38,268 --> 00:26:39,868 Speaker 1: playoff wins, not just appearance. 646 00:26:39,868 --> 00:26:41,708 Speaker 5: It's like, these are two very good teams. 647 00:26:41,868 --> 00:26:43,548 Speaker 1: I actually do think if it was interesting what Joe 648 00:26:43,548 --> 00:26:46,028 Speaker 1: Shane said about Saquon because he used a couple very 649 00:26:46,108 --> 00:26:48,028 Speaker 1: loaded phrases. No matter what line of work you're in, 650 00:26:48,068 --> 00:26:50,708 Speaker 1: you're familiar with the phrase circle back, and you probably 651 00:26:50,708 --> 00:26:52,748 Speaker 1: get an email dot double circle back. 652 00:26:52,748 --> 00:26:56,148 Speaker 5: We're gonna circle back. It's good. It's not a great phrase. 653 00:26:56,348 --> 00:26:58,468 Speaker 5: It's good. It means like we will revisit it soon. 654 00:26:58,948 --> 00:27:00,788 Speaker 1: But it's like when you send an email on Friday 655 00:27:00,788 --> 00:27:02,548 Speaker 1: and then Monday you say just circling back on this. 656 00:27:02,588 --> 00:27:04,668 Speaker 1: It means you want to get it done, but it's 657 00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:06,788 Speaker 1: not probably imminence, he said. What he said the time 658 00:27:06,828 --> 00:27:08,028 Speaker 1: for I'm going to talk to him the next couple 659 00:27:08,028 --> 00:27:10,508 Speaker 1: of weeks, the next couple of days. Yeah, yeah, all right, 660 00:27:10,548 --> 00:27:12,708 Speaker 1: Well then this is coming to some sort of climax. 661 00:27:12,748 --> 00:27:14,148 Speaker 4: I think, why don't you get to this point with 662 00:27:14,188 --> 00:27:16,828 Speaker 4: the franchise tag? A lot of times mid July is 663 00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:19,228 Speaker 4: really the pressure point because that's the point at which 664 00:27:19,428 --> 00:27:21,228 Speaker 4: either you do a deal or you play on a tag. 665 00:27:21,268 --> 00:27:23,868 Speaker 4: And I think it's certainly better for Saquon to play 666 00:27:23,868 --> 00:27:25,548 Speaker 4: in a long term deal. So we could be here 667 00:27:25,988 --> 00:27:29,028 Speaker 4: in mid July, still talking and back circling back in 668 00:27:29,108 --> 00:27:31,348 Speaker 4: July along circle. Now we'll see. I mean, I know, 669 00:27:31,468 --> 00:27:33,868 Speaker 4: I know both sides would prefer it to be done 670 00:27:33,908 --> 00:27:36,908 Speaker 4: a lot sooner than that, but once you have a deadline, 671 00:27:36,948 --> 00:27:38,148 Speaker 4: that really pushes things to get done. 672 00:27:38,148 --> 00:27:40,068 Speaker 3: Still circling around each other, he said. It was a 673 00:27:40,108 --> 00:27:43,948 Speaker 3: week before the draft. The conversations were ongoing. They were 674 00:27:43,948 --> 00:27:46,028 Speaker 3: trying to talk about numbers. It was it was. 675 00:27:46,028 --> 00:27:47,988 Speaker 2: One of the most in this I mean it no insult, 676 00:27:47,988 --> 00:27:49,508 Speaker 2: because I think it is how they have to handle 677 00:27:49,548 --> 00:27:50,788 Speaker 2: their business with jer managers. 678 00:27:50,828 --> 00:27:53,108 Speaker 3: It was so generic, but it was something. 679 00:27:53,228 --> 00:27:55,668 Speaker 2: It was the conversation happened a week before the draft. 680 00:27:56,028 --> 00:27:57,868 Speaker 3: But we're going to circle back after the draft, and 681 00:27:57,868 --> 00:27:58,428 Speaker 3: now that we're. 682 00:27:58,268 --> 00:28:00,348 Speaker 2: Past the draft, I guess it'll like circle back again 683 00:28:00,388 --> 00:28:00,988 Speaker 2: in a couple. 684 00:28:00,908 --> 00:28:02,348 Speaker 5: Ex active he said it not too long ago. 685 00:28:02,348 --> 00:28:04,668 Speaker 1: He hadn't talked to the saquon in three weeks, talk 686 00:28:04,748 --> 00:28:06,508 Speaker 1: to his reps for and now we're gonna talk to 687 00:28:06,548 --> 00:28:08,228 Speaker 1: him in a couple of days. I think one way 688 00:28:08,308 --> 00:28:10,508 Speaker 1: or another, I like July. I don't do't think they're 689 00:28:10,508 --> 00:28:11,748 Speaker 1: gonna let it go to the July I thinks this 690 00:28:11,788 --> 00:28:13,228 Speaker 1: is too important. I think it's too high profile. I 691 00:28:13,228 --> 00:28:13,908 Speaker 1: think we'll have closure. 692 00:28:13,908 --> 00:28:14,108 Speaker 5: Brother. 693 00:28:14,268 --> 00:28:16,708 Speaker 4: It's it's a tricky one because this guy was drafted 694 00:28:16,788 --> 00:28:18,788 Speaker 4: higher than Joe Shane probably would have drafted him. It's 695 00:28:18,788 --> 00:28:20,708 Speaker 4: also the running back position. What's the value of the 696 00:28:20,748 --> 00:28:24,068 Speaker 4: running back position. What they've offered him is double what 697 00:28:24,348 --> 00:28:27,388 Speaker 4: the top free agents this like Miles Sanders got six 698 00:28:27,428 --> 00:28:29,908 Speaker 4: million a year. They've offered him twelve like, so they 699 00:28:29,948 --> 00:28:32,188 Speaker 4: already feel like they're at a really good number. It's 700 00:28:32,228 --> 00:28:34,708 Speaker 4: just how much do you stretch this thing? And I 701 00:28:34,748 --> 00:28:37,148 Speaker 4: look in the end, it's gonna get done. Saquon Barkley 702 00:28:37,148 --> 00:28:38,828 Speaker 4: is gonna have a multi year deal. I feel really 703 00:28:39,668 --> 00:28:42,548 Speaker 4: with the Giants. Giants, Yeah, I just feel coxcited about that. 704 00:28:42,588 --> 00:28:44,348 Speaker 5: Good. When does it get done? I don't know. 705 00:28:44,428 --> 00:28:46,548 Speaker 4: Again, are we ad mid July talking about this, which 706 00:28:46,548 --> 00:28:48,548 Speaker 4: would be fine. We'll have a storyline and guy before 707 00:28:48,628 --> 00:28:49,348 Speaker 4: training camp begins. 708 00:28:49,388 --> 00:28:51,028 Speaker 6: That's the tricky part to me though, because when you 709 00:28:51,068 --> 00:28:54,508 Speaker 6: say that, once the market opens up and for Saquan 710 00:28:54,588 --> 00:28:56,348 Speaker 6: and for Joe Shane and the mark is not as 711 00:28:56,468 --> 00:28:58,468 Speaker 6: high as maybe one would have thought for running backs 712 00:28:58,468 --> 00:29:00,548 Speaker 6: for the Giants, it's just well, we offered you that, 713 00:29:00,708 --> 00:29:02,948 Speaker 6: but it's just like, well, nobody's really making that level 714 00:29:02,948 --> 00:29:04,348 Speaker 6: of money. So it was just like, do we can 715 00:29:04,468 --> 00:29:06,148 Speaker 6: keep that off on the table and now what we've 716 00:29:06,188 --> 00:29:08,668 Speaker 6: seen what's actually out there for you, do we kind 717 00:29:08,708 --> 00:29:10,588 Speaker 6: of go a little bit lower because we don't have 718 00:29:10,748 --> 00:29:11,828 Speaker 6: to pay you that amount. 719 00:29:11,588 --> 00:29:13,588 Speaker 4: Of money, you know, Daniel Jones one was tricky. There 720 00:29:13,588 --> 00:29:15,988 Speaker 4: were times where it got I don't want to say contentious, 721 00:29:16,028 --> 00:29:18,348 Speaker 4: but the sides really butted ahead. So there's a little 722 00:29:18,348 --> 00:29:20,308 Speaker 4: bit of that right now. But Joe Shane and company, 723 00:29:20,388 --> 00:29:22,588 Speaker 4: Kevin Abramson's been doing their contracts for you. However, I 724 00:29:22,588 --> 00:29:23,948 Speaker 4: think they get something I love. 725 00:29:27,748 --> 00:29:30,228 Speaker 2: Here to tell us more about the International Player Pathway 726 00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:33,708 Speaker 2: Program is of course our NFL networkfront office analyst, Scott Pioli. 727 00:29:33,828 --> 00:29:35,188 Speaker 3: Scott, how are you doing this morning? 728 00:29:36,188 --> 00:29:39,028 Speaker 2: There is such a long process for these players, hey, 729 00:29:39,148 --> 00:29:40,188 Speaker 2: to get to this point. 730 00:29:40,508 --> 00:29:41,948 Speaker 3: So tell us about the process. 731 00:29:42,468 --> 00:29:44,308 Speaker 2: Start from the beginning, because you see a lot of names, 732 00:29:44,348 --> 00:29:47,148 Speaker 2: let's say from Nigeria on that list. How are these 733 00:29:47,148 --> 00:29:48,868 Speaker 2: guys found and how do they get placed? 734 00:29:50,468 --> 00:29:50,748 Speaker 4: Jamie? 735 00:29:50,828 --> 00:29:54,028 Speaker 9: The starting point for the International Player Pathway program begins 736 00:29:54,028 --> 00:29:57,548 Speaker 9: with the international scouts that the league offers employees. And 737 00:29:57,588 --> 00:30:00,348 Speaker 9: this group of people is spread out in different countries 738 00:30:00,428 --> 00:30:03,148 Speaker 9: and different continents. And what they do is they gather 739 00:30:03,308 --> 00:30:06,468 Speaker 9: names and players, not just people that have played football, 740 00:30:06,508 --> 00:30:09,748 Speaker 9: people who have never played football, who send videos, who 741 00:30:09,788 --> 00:30:13,828 Speaker 9: maybe are playing other sports rugby, Australian rules football. Those 742 00:30:13,948 --> 00:30:17,308 Speaker 9: names are gathered, They collect film, they start doing work. 743 00:30:17,348 --> 00:30:20,548 Speaker 9: They do in person visits, they do a lot of 744 00:30:20,628 --> 00:30:23,468 Speaker 9: video work. Then the next level, after the scouts goes 745 00:30:23,548 --> 00:30:26,628 Speaker 9: the work goes to Will Brice and James Cook who 746 00:30:26,668 --> 00:30:30,748 Speaker 9: worked for NFL UK. They do an amazing job because 747 00:30:30,788 --> 00:30:33,148 Speaker 9: not only do they filter out the players and get 748 00:30:33,188 --> 00:30:36,388 Speaker 9: the next level of players to the next group, but 749 00:30:36,468 --> 00:30:38,868 Speaker 9: they have so many logistical things that they have to 750 00:30:38,908 --> 00:30:40,708 Speaker 9: go through and a ton of travel and time away 751 00:30:40,708 --> 00:30:41,348 Speaker 9: from their family. 752 00:30:41,628 --> 00:30:42,428 Speaker 5: When they're done with that. 753 00:30:42,788 --> 00:30:46,188 Speaker 9: There's a group of scouts old scouts, starting with former 754 00:30:46,308 --> 00:30:50,028 Speaker 9: NFL executive Dick Daniels, former NFL player, with Charles Bentley, 755 00:30:50,468 --> 00:30:55,508 Speaker 9: myself and Mark Ross, another former NFL executive. We watch tape, 756 00:30:55,548 --> 00:30:57,988 Speaker 9: we see film on these players. We then make a 757 00:30:58,028 --> 00:31:00,588 Speaker 9: decision of who we're going to invite to the Combine 758 00:31:00,628 --> 00:31:04,068 Speaker 9: in London the last two years and in Germany before 759 00:31:04,108 --> 00:31:07,268 Speaker 9: that we have a combine. We then select a group 760 00:31:07,308 --> 00:31:09,908 Speaker 9: of players that we will work out at IMG Academy. 761 00:31:10,148 --> 00:31:12,988 Speaker 9: They spend three months their training and that is the 762 00:31:13,028 --> 00:31:14,708 Speaker 9: beginning of the beginning for. 763 00:31:14,748 --> 00:31:18,308 Speaker 6: Them, the beginning of the beginning. I loved a Scott 764 00:31:18,348 --> 00:31:21,588 Speaker 6: and you just mentioned that the International Player Pathway program 765 00:31:21,668 --> 00:31:24,588 Speaker 6: in London and then the Combine and Germany. You've been 766 00:31:24,708 --> 00:31:27,148 Speaker 6: at both of those. Can you just tell everybody what 767 00:31:27,188 --> 00:31:29,308 Speaker 6: that experience is like for the players when they take 768 00:31:29,348 --> 00:31:29,748 Speaker 6: part in it. 769 00:31:30,828 --> 00:31:33,828 Speaker 9: You know, it's interesting, Jason, because as we know, players 770 00:31:33,908 --> 00:31:38,308 Speaker 9: react differently to different situations. The one overwhelming feeling that 771 00:31:38,348 --> 00:31:40,788 Speaker 9: you see and sense from those players is this feeling 772 00:31:40,868 --> 00:31:43,268 Speaker 9: of gratitude. You have to remember, this is a group 773 00:31:43,308 --> 00:31:46,348 Speaker 9: of people who have never been paid to play football. 774 00:31:46,348 --> 00:31:49,668 Speaker 5: They've always had to dole out cash. So when they come. 775 00:31:49,548 --> 00:31:52,868 Speaker 9: There, they had this immense feeling of gratitude for everybody 776 00:31:52,868 --> 00:31:54,588 Speaker 9: involved with the program. 777 00:31:54,988 --> 00:31:58,428 Speaker 5: But what we see is a lot of different reactions. 778 00:31:58,548 --> 00:32:01,268 Speaker 9: Some people are incredibly nervous, they have no idea what 779 00:32:01,348 --> 00:32:04,708 Speaker 9: to do and they're asking a lot of questions. Others 780 00:32:04,708 --> 00:32:07,708 Speaker 9: show up with a great deal of confidence and athletic 781 00:32:07,748 --> 00:32:11,588 Speaker 9: ability because generally speaking, the players who have played other 782 00:32:11,628 --> 00:32:13,708 Speaker 9: sports before, some of the rugby players, some of the 783 00:32:13,708 --> 00:32:17,548 Speaker 9: Australian rules football players, they have a degree of confidence 784 00:32:17,708 --> 00:32:20,068 Speaker 9: because they've been on a stage before. They know what 785 00:32:20,108 --> 00:32:23,148 Speaker 9: it's like to be with players. One of the interesting 786 00:32:23,188 --> 00:32:26,268 Speaker 9: things that we run into every year, though, is the food. 787 00:32:26,628 --> 00:32:28,188 Speaker 5: You talk about the player experience. 788 00:32:28,228 --> 00:32:30,628 Speaker 9: You've got so many different players from so many different 789 00:32:30,628 --> 00:32:34,308 Speaker 9: countries and they actually don't know what to eat, and 790 00:32:34,348 --> 00:32:38,068 Speaker 9: they get food sometimes that they have absolutely no idea 791 00:32:38,148 --> 00:32:40,148 Speaker 9: what it is, they don't want to touch it, and 792 00:32:40,188 --> 00:32:42,788 Speaker 9: we have to force them to eat sometimes because they're 793 00:32:42,788 --> 00:32:44,268 Speaker 9: struggling what's on their diet. 794 00:32:45,748 --> 00:32:48,428 Speaker 4: Wow, sounds like me every night at the dinner table 795 00:32:48,468 --> 00:32:49,028 Speaker 4: with my kids. 796 00:32:49,068 --> 00:32:49,348 Speaker 5: Scott. 797 00:32:49,348 --> 00:32:51,668 Speaker 4: If you can help me with that, I'd appreciate it. 798 00:32:52,148 --> 00:32:55,028 Speaker 4: The eight allocated players this season of the most since 799 00:32:55,108 --> 00:32:58,028 Speaker 4: the program's inception. Great to see how the programs involving. 800 00:32:58,028 --> 00:33:00,228 Speaker 4: What does the future look like for the International Player 801 00:33:00,228 --> 00:33:02,748 Speaker 4: Pathway program? 802 00:33:02,908 --> 00:33:06,148 Speaker 9: Well, you know, geez, I think right now is momentum 803 00:33:06,268 --> 00:33:08,988 Speaker 9: and what's happening with the program right now because the 804 00:33:09,028 --> 00:33:12,468 Speaker 9: game is changing internationally and there's so much flag football 805 00:33:12,508 --> 00:33:15,228 Speaker 9: and other opportunities to play. What we're seeing with the 806 00:33:15,268 --> 00:33:18,868 Speaker 9: momentum of the game is younger players coming into the game. 807 00:33:18,908 --> 00:33:21,468 Speaker 9: Even players that have had an experience with flag football 808 00:33:21,628 --> 00:33:23,668 Speaker 9: know the game better, They know how to play the game, 809 00:33:23,708 --> 00:33:26,868 Speaker 9: they have certain skills. So as we're watching the future 810 00:33:26,868 --> 00:33:29,788 Speaker 9: of the game, we've realized at the league office level 811 00:33:29,948 --> 00:33:32,868 Speaker 9: that we have to start looking at players at younger ages. 812 00:33:32,948 --> 00:33:35,268 Speaker 9: For the last several years, many of the players that 813 00:33:35,308 --> 00:33:38,588 Speaker 9: we've looked at have been older players, many in their 814 00:33:38,628 --> 00:33:42,028 Speaker 9: mid to late twenties, so the developmental time isn't that 815 00:33:42,148 --> 00:33:44,628 Speaker 9: strong or isn't that long for them. But in this 816 00:33:44,748 --> 00:33:48,068 Speaker 9: last season there were actually three hundred and nineteen international 817 00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:50,428 Speaker 9: players playing in the NCAA. 818 00:33:50,508 --> 00:33:51,508 Speaker 5: We've recognized that. 819 00:33:51,628 --> 00:33:53,868 Speaker 9: We know that, so what we've got to start doing 820 00:33:53,948 --> 00:33:57,348 Speaker 9: is using places like our nfl UK Academy. We have 821 00:33:57,428 --> 00:34:01,188 Speaker 9: a new academy down in Africa that OCU Minor is 822 00:34:01,268 --> 00:34:05,188 Speaker 9: running and finding players, identifying the talent and starting to 823 00:34:05,268 --> 00:34:07,868 Speaker 9: train them a little bit earlier so maybe we have 824 00:34:07,948 --> 00:34:11,308 Speaker 9: a relationship with them before they actually go to college, 825 00:34:11,628 --> 00:34:15,068 Speaker 9: but also understanding and giving back to the teaching of 826 00:34:15,108 --> 00:34:18,108 Speaker 9: the international community. So once again, the game is evolving 827 00:34:18,148 --> 00:34:20,108 Speaker 9: around the country, so we as a league have to 828 00:34:20,188 --> 00:34:22,428 Speaker 9: understand that our players are going to be coming to 829 00:34:22,508 --> 00:34:24,788 Speaker 9: us at a different age. It's a really exciting time 830 00:34:24,828 --> 00:34:27,628 Speaker 9: and there's a ton of momentum internationally. I think next 831 00:34:27,708 --> 00:34:29,388 Speaker 9: week is the week we're going to be finding out 832 00:34:29,748 --> 00:34:32,388 Speaker 9: the schedule of the five games that are being played 833 00:34:32,468 --> 00:34:33,428 Speaker 9: in Europe next year.