1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hello, welcome 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt Noel is 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: on jury duty. Yes that is true. They call me Ben. 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: We are joined as always with our super producer Paul 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Mission Control Decond or uh or Paul and the Tell Decond. 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: You know, we'll go for different I always think we 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: could do more case specific nicknames. But most importantly, you 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: are you. You are here, and that makes this stuff 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. Matt, I'm gonna I'm 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: gonna exercise full disclosure here. I have I have not 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: had a feeding period today, so very interested invested in 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about. You are going to 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: hear many stomach noises. These are against our will. It's 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: our bodies rebelling against our life choices. But it's just 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: what we have to do sometimes. Um. You know, I'm 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: gonna be imagining a oh delicious toasted banana nutella sandwich. Yes, 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: hold that image in your mind. I will imagine a 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: burrito bowl. Maybe some chocolates, uh, Chaco burrito bowl, Uh, 22 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: some mutant live stock, and some affrodaisy at gum all together, 23 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: it's a combo meal. You actually save money if you 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: buy those at once. It's amazing, right, Uh, this this 25 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: episode is about food, perhaps not in the way you think. 26 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: It's often said that you are what you eat, right, 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: And like many cliches, that is a cliche because it 28 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: is true. It doesn't matter whether you live in Mumbai 29 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: or Malibu, or whether you're orbiting the moon or one 30 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: of the moons in the Solar system. You, like every 31 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: other living person, have to eat to survive over the 32 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: long term. It's one of the biggest you know, like 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: you have to sleep, you have to breathe, you have 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: to eat. So it's no wonder that the world of 35 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: food is so rife with conspiracy theory as well as 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: genuine cover ups. Uh, it's it's wide rife with corruption. 37 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Wide rife is a phrase that a good pal, Frank 38 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Mulharan taught me. So, Frank, if you're listening, I still 39 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: think you made it up, but I think it's awesome, 40 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: Like Frank, Frank, Yeah, Frank, that Frank, I never knew 41 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: I have never known his last name. Well he has 42 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: been we we've just compromised him. I just yeah, Frank 43 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: is the best. Shout out to you, Frank. And uh. 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: And we know that while conspiracy theories quote unquote may 45 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: be treated like they exist in the realm of folklore writing, 46 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: urban legend, we know that in the case of food, 47 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: which is such a massive business, many of the things 48 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: that were once called conspiracy theories were later proven to 49 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: be true, right, Uh in one way or another. Yes, 50 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: everything from some artificial sweeteners, uh, to a lot of 51 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: other food additives to hormones in you know, meats and 52 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: other products that we eat. We've we've on this show 53 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: covered a lot of it and seen a lot of 54 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: it to be at least somewhat true. And I'll never 55 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: forget the day. And I say this with an air 56 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: of gratitude, Matt, I'll never forget the day you ruined 57 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: orange soda for me. Orange soda? Huh? You told me 58 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: about romanaded vegetable oil. And remember this, I do remember 59 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: that flame retardant. I believe at least that's where the 60 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: chemical was originally creative for that purpose. It's in your 61 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: mountain dew right now. Your citrus drinks, your orange sodas. 62 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: You know, I've still never tried mountain dew. Am I 63 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: missing out? Um? It has an interesting history. I've just 64 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: never tried it. You know. Thirteen year old me would 65 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: like take you right now to a convenience store and 66 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: purchase at least three different types of mountain dew. But 67 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: older me would say, I drank diet mountain do the 68 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: other day, and I know I shouldn't have, but I 69 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: had to because I needed I needed some diet mound do. 70 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to do the do right. Yeah. So 71 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: we we have covered a lot of this stuff. Romanato, 72 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: vegetable oil, the vast and sidious conspiracy of the sugar lobby. 73 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: Both of those things are true. Uh. The dangers of DuPont, 74 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: for instance, would be another thing. Corporate Shenanigan's strange origins 75 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: of aspartame. Strange origins of aspartame for sure. Uh. Nestley 76 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: just trying to make the Mad Max Dystopi in fictional 77 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: world a reality here on Earth within your lifetime. So 78 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: that's something to look forward to. The nonwater World, I think, 79 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: is what it would be called. Yes, Oh, well done, Yes, 80 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: the non water World just so the what we what 81 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: we've seen though, with the realm of food related conspiracy 82 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: theories is that we will never run out of ideas. 83 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: You know, check out those episodes you mentioned if you 84 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: haven't heard them yet, But you don't have to listen 85 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: to them to enjoy today's episode or be incredibly terrified 86 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: by it. Because as the state of food on this 87 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: planet changes, the conspiracy theories and the opportunities for corruption 88 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: and uh evil deeds also evolves. The rumors change. And 89 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: before we get to some of the really crazy stuff, 90 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: let's just paint the picture of the people alive now 91 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: and the stuff that they're shoving down their gull you, Paul, 92 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: you dear listener, and me included. Yes, the facts are 93 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of human beings hanging around on 94 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: this planet and a few of them floating in orbit 95 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: around it. Currently, the world population, if you go to 96 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: world a meters dot info, is seven billion, seven hundred 97 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: and fifty seven million, three hundred and four thousand, and 98 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: then the number just keeps growing, right, okay, just under 99 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: seven point eight billion. I always love when we play 100 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: this game because whenever we pull that number up, what 101 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: that means is we go back at the end of 102 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the episode and see how many people have been born. 103 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: We can also be a little grizzly and see how 104 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: many people have died. So to be fair, that number 105 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: is going up and down constantly. Yes, yes, that's absolutely true. 106 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: So that's a ton of people. Well, that's millions of 107 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: tons worth of people. And unless there is a global 108 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: or very large scale regional disaster, catastrophe like a plague, 109 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: an impact event, coronal mass ejection, um, you know, all 110 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: the old Testament stuff, unless wide scale nuclear warfare, wide 111 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: scale nuclear warfare, exactly, Unless something like that happens, this 112 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: number of people on the planet seems set to grow. 113 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: And every single one of these seven point eight billion people, 114 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: every single one of them, has to eat, Just like 115 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the fast food chain checker says, So what what on earth? Guy? 116 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what's the most. Have you ever cooked 117 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: a large meal or a meal for a large group 118 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: of people? Yes, okay, without you know, without diving too 119 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: much into the personal life, how many people? Largest one 120 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: for me was on a grill for about twenty five 121 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: something like that. I'm probably around the the same. And 122 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: to be clear, that was a cooperative thing, you know, yea, yeah, 123 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't just me, yeah, right, but you know it 124 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: was the amount of food purchased in order to feed 125 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: that many people was significant. Yeah yeah, and just the 126 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: logistics involved, right, because you want people to be able 127 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: to eat roughly at the same time. So how would 128 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: you how would you feed heat billion people? How what 129 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: do living people eat? You know what I mean? Oh, sure, 130 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: we can talk about that. Throughout the world, there is 131 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: a staple grain in any given region roughly because people, 132 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: human beings are grain eaters because it's something that will 133 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: fill us up. It's relatively cheap to create and it 134 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: uh or two, well, it's relatively cheap and easy to 135 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: manufacture essentially through farming. Right, So things like corn, rice, 136 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: and wheat together, those three, just those three make up 137 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: fifty one cent of the world's total caloric intake. So 138 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: if you look at corn, it's about nineteen and a half, 139 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: rice sixteen point five percent, and wheat comes in and 140 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: about fifteen percent. And there are also a lot of 141 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: other roots that have I guess you would call them 142 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: um like starches kind of these these foods that will 143 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: fill us up. Yeah yeah, stuff like roots and tubers 144 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: or cassava potatoes. Then we also have another another genre, right, 145 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: soybeans or sorghum and plantains. Most of the world's food, 146 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: just low ower half of it is this sort of stuff. 147 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: It's super efficient to grow. You can find regional, regional 148 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: specific varieties. And we have also as a species, spent 149 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot of time genetically modifying these before the concept 150 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: of genetic modification existed. Right. Yeah, by that's the old 151 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: by hand genetically modifying mendel, the mendel and the peapods. Right. 152 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: So we have a different category though, and this is 153 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: an exciting category. And ever since the moment that you 154 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: were born, this category has been growing, it's been exploding, 155 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: it's been uh metastasizing. Some would say if they're being 156 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: more critical because people, you know, people tend to eat 157 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: these grains. They're affordable, they can they can be ubiquitous 158 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: in certain areas. But that's I would say, that's maintenance food, 159 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: that's survival food, that's keeping the machine running. Everybody has 160 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: the vast majority of people have some sort of favorite dish, 161 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: and that's when we move into the realm of what 162 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: what I would like to call aspirational food. You know, 163 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: in some parts of the world it's funny. If you 164 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: are a vegetarian or a vegan, or you have any 165 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: friends who are, you should know that in some parts 166 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: of the world, if you if you say you're a 167 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: vegetarian and you refuse to eat meat, if someone offers 168 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: it to you know who lives in that area, they 169 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: will no matter, they won't assume you're rude and somewhat 170 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: of a myth. No matter. You can be really polite 171 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: and people understand maybe you don't need it for some 172 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: reason or another. But in some parts of the world, 173 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: people will assume that you're not doing that because you're 174 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: poor or you've never had the opportunity to eat whatever 175 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: delicacy this is being proffered towards you. And this is 176 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: a telling cultural thing because people want to eat, you know, 177 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: the meat of the gods, the food of the king, 178 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: the royal cuisine, and globally speaking, it's more possible to 179 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: do that than it was any other point in history. 180 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: You know, the Atlanta, Georgia, for instance, has one river 181 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: of any note running running around it or through it. 182 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Right now as a couple of artificial lakes. Shout out 183 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: to Chattahoochie, shout out to the hooch Uh and that 184 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: means that we if we were trying to eat uh 185 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: ocean bound food or something, we would only eat the 186 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: stuff that came from that river or those lakes, because 187 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: otherwise there'd be no way to get you know, crab 188 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: lags to us or something that's. Yes, it's a long 189 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: way away, but now we have these huge networks that 190 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: can transport everything from point A to point B zipsaps up, 191 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, just like the improv game. But it's steak 192 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: or it's it's it's uh, it's antelope words, it's shark finn, 193 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, things like that. Thank goodness for that. We 194 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: always make this joke, thank goodness for that. Legal Seafood. Yes, ah, 195 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: we we've talked about that, but it's just what a 196 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: what a weird name. It's a brand, everybody. That's not 197 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: a concept, it's a brand. It's it's a restaurant that 198 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: calls itself Legal Seafood. You know. That's like that's like 199 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: going out of your way at a fast food restaurant 200 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: to get to have a sign, a large sign that says, 201 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, we guarantee that almost a hundred percent of 202 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: our burgers have never been spat in. You know, it's 203 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: like that's the McDonald's guarantee. Almost almost right. We have 204 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: these these gargantelan avenues of shipping and trade, and we 205 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: also have hand in hand with that concurrently, we have 206 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: a great deal of global development. You know, in the 207 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: times of for many of us listening, in the times 208 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: of our grandparents are great grandparents, people were limited to 209 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: the food that was locally available and things like us, say, 210 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: an orange might be a luxury, it might be something 211 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: you get as a birthday present, you know, And that's 212 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: changing now because people are in these rapidly developing areas 213 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: and they are able to eat aspirationally. Now we can 214 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: have meat every day. Now we can dine on whatever 215 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: the cave are of our minds I may be, oh yeah, 216 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: or even things that are maybe processed and package that 217 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: are coming from far away. We can. We have access 218 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: to those foods now they're being shipped to us rather 219 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: than us having to create them here at home. Again, 220 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: before it all collapses, we there's that moral crossroads moment 221 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: that some people have had and I've had it myself, 222 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: when we say, well, it's quite possible that wild seafood 223 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: will no longer be a thing. Before you know, I die, 224 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: or you die, or whomever dies. And then you have 225 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: the choice, you say, do I do I join the 226 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: embattled and outnumbered good side trying to save the planet, 227 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: And do I, you know, do I recute use myself 228 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: from the seafood game for the betterment of the world, 229 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Or do I, like the vast majority of people who 230 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: eat seafood, say I gotta get mine before the house 231 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: burns down, you know. Yeah? Yeah, for me, seafood died. 232 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Most of seafood that I have access to died in 233 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: two thousand seven when the deep Water Horizon went down, 234 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: or was that two thousand eight? Whenever Deep Arter Horizon 235 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: went down, all of my Gulf shrimp. I just I 236 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: had to say, no, thanks, I'm sorry, man, I know 237 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: me too. It changed you, it really did, as as 238 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: a person inside and out. Yeah, yes, mostly inside. Yeah, 239 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: all that oil and flame retardan again, I know. But 240 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: if there's ever a fire, you know, yeah, I'll be fine. 241 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: So you're right, though, we have more and more people 242 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: who not only want to consume something more than you know, 243 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: a porridge or a staple grain every day, they can 244 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: also now do it, you know, and that that does 245 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: tie in in some ways with an increase in the 246 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: quality of life. Would be remiss if we didn't point 247 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: out that also ties into things like the increase of 248 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: early onset diabetes, obesity, all those other terrible problems. A 249 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: lot of that due to the process snacks, and of course, 250 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: again i use the word previously, the insidious actions of 251 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: big sugar. Yeah, so let's look at let's look at 252 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: the meat. Right. If we have more people eating the 253 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: same amount of stuff, then logically we'd also want to 254 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: grow that industry, right, we want to satisfy that demand. Well, yeah, 255 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: and to do that, guess what, we need more of 256 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: that grain, which is great. So now it's not just 257 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: humans consuming all the grain, it's also our food consuming 258 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: all the grain. Because really, if you love it you 259 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,239 Speaker 1: hate it, doesn't matter. There's no denying that meat itself 260 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: is extremely inefficient because it's a thing you gotta feed 261 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: to the slaughter and eat. To produce a single kilogram 262 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: of beef, which is highly popular at least in these 263 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: old United States and many other places in the world, 264 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: it requires twenty five kilos of grain to feed the animal. 265 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: One kilogram of beef equals twenty of grain and roughly 266 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand liters of water. So not only the fresh 267 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: water that is uh quickly becoming they're problematic finding enough 268 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: fresh water for all of humanity about it, they really, yeah, 269 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: they really torn up about it. But the grains that 270 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: that will feed us, in the water that will quench 271 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: our thirst, it's all being used in these processes. And pork, 272 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: if you look at that, it's still a big issue. 273 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: A little less heinous at least from the amount of 274 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: stuff needed to create pork, and then chicken is a 275 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: little less than that, but still, uh, all three are problematic. Yeah, 276 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: we can also see the problem with space, just not 277 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: the final frontier, I mean just the geography. The scale 278 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: of the meat industry has left a mark in the 279 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: way that we use land. Currently, about thirty of the 280 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: earth surface is used for livestock farming of some sort 281 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: in some way, and since food, water, and land are 282 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: scarce or arable land or scarce in many parts of 283 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: the world, this could also represent an inefficient use of resources. 284 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: There's something else we we have to talk about. This 285 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: is the one that I have. I have some money 286 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: on this one. Industrial livestock, especially in the US many 287 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: other places, relies heavily on intense and profound application of antibiotics, 288 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: the same kind of stuff that will fight an infection 289 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: for you or one of your human loved ones. If 290 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: you are feeling peaked, then you know you should be 291 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: able to, in theory, have an antibiotics regiment of some 292 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: sort and then boom, you will be cured onto your 293 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: happily ever after whatever the next problem becomes in your life. However, 294 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: because there's so many antibiotics being used to keep animals 295 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: alive in unnatural circumstances, right, what we're seeing is that 296 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: this gives this gives some of these infections a chance 297 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: to evolve at a faster pace than normal, and this 298 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: renders antibiotics less and less effective each passing year. In 299 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: the U S Alone, eight percent of antibiotics are consumed 300 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: not by humans but by the livestock industry. So good god, 301 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: if you think about it, this is a crappy voice 302 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: of dark humor, but just have to make it. If 303 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: you think about it, the last hamburger you ate to 304 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: ate in this country, in a way, it had better 305 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: access to medicine than you did. It just didn't get 306 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: to consent to it. Wow. Wow, man, that's it's really rough, 307 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: and this is this is very like you guys know 308 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: in a lot of these situations, Ben and all, and 309 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: I have to like be humorous about these things because 310 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: it is so intensely upsetting as somebody whose grandfather died 311 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: as a direct result of an antibiotic resistant bacteria infecting 312 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: him like this, it horrifies me and it really pisces 313 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: me off because just listen to this. Already, in more 314 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: than twenty three thousand people are like projected or estimated 315 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: to die every year inside the United States alone, just 316 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: in here due to some form of resistant bacteria. And 317 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: you know that number is not going to go down 318 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: because unless we completely change our ways and somehow the 319 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: bacteria just decides it's not going to evolve anymore, right, 320 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: and become resistant to a lot of these things. Because 321 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: at this point, we're going to continue giving our livestock 322 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: antibiotics at these levels because we will have to because 323 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: we have to create more food. It's just we're in 324 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: a rough position, right, and nobody nobody wants to purpose 325 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: It's it's the hazard of the common good, right. Nobody 326 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: wants to purposefully step down their own lifestyle for a 327 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: minute benefit net benefit to the planet unless they know 328 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: everybody else is also going to be healthy. Well, no 329 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: people do that, But no one wants to be in 330 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: a situation where you know, we slave way and rule 331 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives. And then there's some 332 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: elite steak eaters out there, you know what I mean, 333 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: and they're reaping the benefits of fewer people participate in 334 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: the meat industry, but they didn't have to change at all. 335 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: It's like, it's it's kind of like how if you're 336 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: ever in a if you're ever in a bad traffic situation, 337 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: you see a bad driver, and as long as everybody 338 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: else is a defensive driver, the bad driver can be 339 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: as horrible as they want until they hit something. Yeah, 340 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: and they you know, they there's a system to punish them, 341 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: but how often does it work? Right? So, so I 342 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of gallows humor here. But if 343 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: you like steak, if you enjoy a good I don't know, 344 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Korean barbecue, right or a good bacon buddy sandwich as 345 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: they eat in in the United Kingdom, then you'll be 346 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: glad to know that these drawbacks, which are real, have 347 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: done nothing to hinder the popularity of meat. It still 348 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: remains aspirational. You know, it's associated with success. Globally, our 349 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: species consumes around third fifteen million tons of meat per year. 350 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: By thirty that number is going to reach four hundred 351 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: and fifty three million. That's an increase of forty four percent. 352 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: Gets a little fuzzy as we go further into the future, 353 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: but experts can make a ballpark, you know, like cocktail 354 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: Napkin guess as to the rate of meat consumption in 355 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: twenty fifty and the highest estimate they have is five 356 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy million tons. And with that, you know, 357 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: there becomes a lot of hidden fees, just like buying 358 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: a car. You have the deforestation that will occur, you 359 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: have the increasing likelihood of an antibiotic resistant infection. It 360 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: just mow down humans the way that the original popular 361 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: uh gross Michelle bananas were mowed down, right, And again 362 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: that's all just assuming no large scale disaster occurs before then. Yeah, um, 363 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: and it certainly feels like one is on the way 364 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: with every passing moment. But for now, uh, let's let's 365 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: switch gears a little bit and let's talk about some 366 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: of some foods that are I don't know less scary 367 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: less scary, but still have some issues that are going 368 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: to make you not sleep at night. Uh. I mean, 369 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: before we do that, we're gonna take a quick word 370 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: from our sponsor. Let's just cross our fingers and hope 371 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: it's not food based. I hope it's blue apron and 372 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: we're back. Yes, that's that's some hard hitting stuff. No. 373 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: You know, many people in the audience today we may 374 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: be uh seen as preaching to the choir for are 375 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: people who live the Michael Pollen esque plant based diet, 376 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: or people are vegetarian or vegan or some you know 377 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: variation thereof, or you maybe you may be an avowed 378 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: carnivore and saying, you know, this is over hyped hippie 379 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: dippy stuff. The thing is, uh, you know, we're not vegetarians, 380 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: were not practicing vegetarians. I was for some time. But 381 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: what we just told you that's true, and what we're 382 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: about to tell you now is also true. Let's take 383 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: a lighter tact, maybe, as you said, man, and examine 384 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: some foods that are often the mainstream not associated with 385 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: these various drawbacks. Like sure, we get it, h there 386 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: there are tons of problems. They are profound, abiding problems. 387 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: With the meat industry. But what about you know, what 388 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: about desserts, what about the sweet stuff? Huh? But dude, 389 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: let's go into chocolate, and my one of my favorite 390 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: things in the world, chocolate probably one of your favorite things. 391 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: To my wife would um, my wife would give me 392 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: up in a minute for a lifetime supply of chocolate. 393 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that it was not her fault. I 394 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't blame her. I would say, you know what, you're right, 395 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: I would take that deal. And no, it's not true. 396 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: None of that is true. But in Western Africa, let's 397 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: let's just go there to where anyone the places where 398 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: coco actually comes from, where the stuff that becomes chocolate 399 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: comes from. It's a commodity crop. It's grown primarily for 400 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: export to other countries. The United States is one of 401 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: those places that takes in a whole lot of it. 402 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: Six of the Ivory Coast export revenue comes from its coco. 403 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: And as the chocolate industry has become bigger and bigger 404 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: and bigger, as more and more massive companies become conglomerates 405 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: and they all depend on their chocolate goods that they 406 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: export across the globe, so has the demand four cheap cocoa, 407 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: so super cheap, as cheap as we can get it. 408 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: Just give me it as much as you can for 409 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: as little as I can possibly pay. Check this out though, that, 410 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: as you can probably imagine, has a pretty big effect 411 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: on the people actually cultivating and gathering the cocoa. Yeah, 412 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: that's right. The average cocoa farmer earns less than two 413 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: dollars per day, that is income blue the poverty line. 414 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: And in case there was a question, and as a 415 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: result in this intensely competitive market, people often result to 416 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: child labor to keep themselves able to stay in the 417 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: game price wise. Most of the children laboring on cocoa 418 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: farms are between the ages of twelve and sixteen. This 419 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: is again, I cannot stress this enough, and I'll stress 420 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: this again later. This is not a rumor, that's not 421 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory is the twelve to sixteen year olds, 422 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: and reporters have found children as young as five working 423 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: in the cocoa industry. Of these children are girls. Some 424 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: stay for a few months, others end up making a 425 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: living into adulthood on this. Yeah. And one of the 426 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: ways that the larger buyers of the cocoa um they'll 427 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: get away with it by claiming that this is a 428 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: third party kind of thing, right where we are just 429 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: acquiring from this group of essentially what would be farms 430 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: or farmers or gatherers of this product, and we have 431 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: no visibility into those companies as to what their practices are. 432 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: We just know that we are buying from the supplier essentially. Um. 433 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: There's numerous documentaries online where you can find that pretty 434 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: well documented, and you'll hear companies saying, often in good faith, 435 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: saying that, well, we have this list of standards to 436 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: which our suppliers must adhere, and if we find out 437 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: that something is then we will go investigated or will 438 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: stop working with them. And of course when the rubber 439 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: hits the road, the picture is not always as clear 440 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: cut as we would hope. Even incentives to make sure 441 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: this kind of thing doesn't happen usually monetary, but those 442 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: funds perhaps find their ways into other hands. And again, 443 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: it's such a huge, huge business. Uh Ivory Coast alone, 444 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: we we said it's a lot of its export revenue 445 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: is tied up in coco, but thirty they produced thirty 446 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: eight percent of the coco in the world, and West 447 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: Africa overall creates two thirds of the world's annual coco crop. 448 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: It's insane. And that doesn't even count some other adjacent 449 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: countries in the region where you can grow this stuff. 450 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: It's a lot to have to walk away from, and 451 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: it's a lot to figure out. Of course, if you're 452 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: the kind of person who's bothered by child labor. Once 453 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: you love chocolate, you can find things that say they're 454 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: ethically sourced and say they are for instance, free trade, 455 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: or that the people work in the industry you're paid 456 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: a fair market rate. But really the burden of the 457 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: burden of proving that has been passed to the consumer 458 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: because for one reason another large corporations don't have the 459 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: best track record. So that's chocolate. So we ruined chocolate. Yeah, 460 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: that's okay, you don't need chocolate, Come on, yeah, why 461 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: don't you settle settle up with some uh, some delicious natella. Right, 462 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: that's like, you know, something that's less chocolate, more hazel nut, 463 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: maybe some other alternative ingredients to to give it that 464 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: smooth consistency and texture. It's still you know, it still 465 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: hits those savory notes, but it's not as bad, that's right. 466 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: It's not as bad. And you're definitely not gonna get 467 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: any trans fats in there, right because you won't be 468 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: eating eat trans fats. You'll be eating palm oil. In 469 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: the US, palm oil is mostly used in processed foods. 470 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: And a while back, Uncle Sam said, we had to 471 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: get rid of this trans fat. This trans fat is everywhere. 472 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: It's nuts. I can't have it. Uh, you know, we 473 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: have a duty as Americans. And so they move. You know, 474 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: they tried to reduce the amount of trans fat that 475 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: could be in your snacks at your local grocery store. 476 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: It backfired. They started using palm oil, and they started 477 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: using a lot of it. The Center for Science and 478 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: the Public Interest reports that palm oil is now the 479 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: second most popular food oil in the world, the first 480 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: being soybean oil, and a lot of palm oil comes 481 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: from countries like Indonesia. Indonesia is one of the largest 482 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: palm oil producers next borders in the world. It also 483 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: used to be home to a lot of orangutans. Yeah, 484 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: or at least fifty of the world's wild orangutans have disappeared. 485 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: They I mean, and that's not even really a good 486 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: term for it. They've they're gone It's not like a 487 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: lost situation. They're not on an island waiting fighting the 488 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: black smoke or something. No, you cannot make an up 489 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: and vanished season about this. It is just they're gone. Um. 490 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: And the problem is just the groups of Orangutans who 491 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: could be reproducing, could be you know, making more of them, 492 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: have reduced in size and number, and of the Orangutan 493 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: habitat has either been just depopulated or totally destroyed. All 494 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: of the places where they could have lived are just gone. 495 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: And this this is not a trend like that just 496 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: started happening. This is something that's been going on for 497 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: a long time and has It's not going to stop. 498 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: There's no signs that this is going to stop anytime soon. 499 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: If you look at government map just of the way 500 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 1: different countries are planning out the land, how it's going 501 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: to be used, it's just the same thing, because it's 502 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: the same problem we're running into with more of us, 503 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: with more consumption. We need more land to make the 504 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: same stuff we're making. Now. I want to show you 505 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: something and we'll we'll post it on our Facebook page. 506 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. This is a clip from 507 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: fairly recently of an orange ting attempting to fight a 508 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: bulldozer that's destroying its habitat oh Man. That is heartbreaking. Yeah, 509 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: and it's it's very short video, you can you can 510 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: find it here. But but yeah, palm oil is has 511 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: a direct connection to this. And just to clarify here 512 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: what we're talking about with you know, making use of 513 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: the land in that same way, it's because palm oil 514 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: is derived from the fruit of palm trees. These oil 515 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: palms um primarily the africa An oil palm. But it's 516 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: the way you get it is by use by smashing 517 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: up essentially the fruit of these palm trees. And in 518 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: order to get enough of that fruit to make as 519 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: much palm oil as is needed, you have to plant 520 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: as many of these palm trees as you possibly can. 521 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: And the only way to do that is to have 522 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: enough land to plant those trees, so you wipe everything 523 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 1: else out and put those palm trees up. This problem 524 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: continues in Malaysia pete swamp forest or being obliterated, and 525 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: these disapperior forests are home to things like the pygmy elephant. 526 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: For everyone who has a soft spot for tiny, cuddly 527 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: baby yoda like things, this is the elephant version of 528 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: that just remembers Dumbo. Uh and the clouded leopard, tons 529 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: of rare birds again we had. These are all facts, 530 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: were not even into the next act of the show. 531 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: Yet everything you've just heard is true. These are not 532 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. These are proven incidents of child labor and 533 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: cases slavery, corporate corruption followed by cover ups. And this 534 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: is just the beginning. We will be back with some 535 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: of the most bizarre, strangest food conspiracies in the world. 536 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: Will also tell you the best we could determine the 537 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: likelihood of these. We'll do that after a word from 538 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: our sponsors. Here's where it gets crazy, fellow conspiracy realist. 539 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: Not only are there more food related conspiracies than you 540 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: might ever imagine, new ones are cropping up all the time. 541 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: We can divide these into several rough, kind of broad categories. 542 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: But within any of these categories you're going to find, um, 543 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: You're going to find at least several instances per year 544 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: of a new specific tale popping up in within them. 545 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Oh sure, you've got everything from corporate mouthfeasance, just something 546 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: that a corporation decided they had to do either for 547 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: a bottom line or for pr they just had to 548 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 1: save themselves. Um. Illegal government meddling where you've got some 549 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: large thing like the FDA coming through and making changes 550 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: or enacting something particular Brazil and the forestation. There we 551 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: go hidden costs of food, which is kind of what 552 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: we were talking about, like antibiotics. These things, Um, just 553 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: what it actually takes to make make that beef of 554 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: yours that you're eating right now. I'm not going to 555 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: judge you. Keep eating in It's fine. Um, I might 556 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: have some later. I'll do my best not to. You 557 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: can also look at fad diets, which breath of area 558 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: isn't yeah, oh yeah, where you just need air. All 559 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: I need is the oh, don't sue us, Please don't sue. 560 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: Bizarre medical claims are an other one. There's all kinds. 561 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: These are kind of the big the Big five. I 562 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: guess that we can put these things into. So we 563 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: found a couple that we thought would be enjoyable and 564 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: maybe surprising to many of us in the audience, because you, 565 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: like us, have dug into a lot of these things before. 566 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: So we've heard about allegations of detrimental effects due to 567 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: consuming fluoridated water and tail as old as time. We've 568 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: also heard things about, you know, the meat industry and 569 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: livestock and the way animals are mistreated. We've also heard 570 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: stuff about the maybe the food pyramid so popular in 571 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: the US here being ultimately a an illicit collaboration between 572 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: the government and several several food producing interest o for sure. 573 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: And don't even worry about the pesticides and her herbicides 574 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: that all that stuff is great. Oh yeah, oh yeah, 575 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: neo nikeotinoids all day baby. By the way, we did 576 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: a video on that and it turned out we were 577 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: right and turned out the sign and it wasn't We 578 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 1: didn't figure it out in a lab. We just dug 579 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: into the science and it was there, it was published, 580 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: it was not classified. And then years later, oh oops exactly, 581 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: and then someone has the nerve to say, well, it's 582 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: not a conspiracy. Yes it was. It was absolutely conspiracy 583 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: to cover up the delatorious effects of pesticides. Anyhow, No, 584 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: let's before I go on some weird ted talk rant, 585 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: let's let's look into some of the things we found 586 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: that we thought might surprise you. Let's go big. There's 587 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: a weird one AFRODSI act gum. Now, before we started 588 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: researching this episode, I had never heard of this. I 589 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: like the idea. I'm sure there's some kind of just 590 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: in the concepts like an aphrodisi act gum. So the 591 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: idea that with this gum is that you would chew this, 592 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: and while chewing it, you would ingest substances that made 593 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: you so blindingly unreasonably horny that you couldn't do anything else. 594 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: It turned you into a sexual version of the Tasmanian 595 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: Devil cartoons. You know, you're just kind of like whirlwind 596 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: and around trying to trying to get intimate with something. 597 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: And this story comes to us because Hamas, which is 598 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: a governing authority and Palestine, was for time convinced that 599 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: the government of Israel have been sending Palestinian kids this 600 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: afrodisiac chewing gum to make them, you know, excited, to 601 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: mess with their hormones and and distract them from the 602 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: struggle against oppression and the you know, the the tension 603 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: of violence between those those two entities. Objectively, the evidence 604 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: is pretty scarce, but we do have on record one 605 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: the spokespeople for Hamas in a two thousand nine article 606 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: from BBC. Yes, this spokesperson Islam Schahuan stated, quote, we 607 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: have discovered two types of stimulants that were introduced into 608 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: the Gaza strip from Israeli border crossings. And then later 609 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: this person said quote the first type is presented in 610 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: the form of chewing gum and the second in the 611 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: form of drops. Yeah. So this story got regional and 612 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: then global attention when a Palestinian man complained that his 613 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 1: daughter had experienced dubious side effects after chewing this gum, 614 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: and this was reported by the media and Israel and 615 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: they started trying to hunt down the people that they 616 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: felt were smuggling this gum or bringing it into the 617 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: territory and selling it. One suspect said he got the 618 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: products from an intelligence officer in the Israeli government at 619 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: a cut rate price, and the officer said, you know, 620 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: we don't want money, We want to distribute. We want 621 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: you to distribute these products amidst the young people of Gaza. 622 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,959 Speaker 1: So the idea then, it seems like a little bit 623 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: of a reach, doesn't it. It doesn't seem like the 624 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: most direct way to affect people. And if you modify, 625 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: even even with the sciences there, and you modify a 626 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: small part of a person's behavior, it doesn't. It doesn't 627 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: necessarily result in the the effects you want. Right, Yeah, 628 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: it sounds like a high cost research project and manufacturing 629 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: thing that would give you very little gain and strategic 630 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: advantage doesn't seem to be a thing here. So it's 631 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: difficult for me to see a scenario where this is true, 632 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: right right. Also, we looked and could not find a 633 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: an example of the scum you know what I mean. 634 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,959 Speaker 1: Find these statements, find these stories. The israel The military 635 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: declined to comment on the record, but one source in 636 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: the Israeli military said this was this is absurd. Why 637 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: would we do this for the reasons that you just mentioned. 638 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: So that was one we had never heard of. But 639 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: here's one you may have already heard of in the past. 640 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: If not, we are thrilled to introduce this to you today. 641 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: All right, So let's say you just left Popeyes. You've 642 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: got one of those glorious new sandwiches that are I 643 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: have to admit, pretty dan good, pretty good. Right. I 644 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: enjoyed the spicy version very much. Well, maybe not Popeyes, 645 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: maybe not anyone particular food chain. Let's just call them 646 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: mass market food chains, the big ones, the mega chains. 647 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: Some weird stuff is going on in trying to make 648 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: enough chickens, enough chicken to fill all of the orders 649 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: that are just occurring. They never stop. I mean, if 650 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 1: you've got a twenty four hour McDonald's anywhere near your house, 651 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, whenever you've been up, it doesn't matter how 652 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: early in the morning is, how late it is. There 653 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: are people getting some food. Some of that food is 654 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: probably gonna be chicken. Yeah, because the ice cream machine 655 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: will never works different. It's always it's it's that's a 656 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: different conspiracy. It's it's true. So how how then is 657 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: all this food supplied? Well? Yeah, so how do you do? 658 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: How do you get enough chicken? Well, there is a 659 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: theory out there that possibly someone out there is making 660 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: chickens without heads, chickens without feathers, without feet, just with breasts, 661 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: extra breasts, extra wings, extra meat, extra legs, more meat. 662 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: Can you imagine a chicken that is just the meat? 663 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: I wish to scream, but I have no mouth. Right 664 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: that old Harlan Ellison story. Yeah, it seems like a 665 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: hellish existence, even if there is not a brain. As 666 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: we understand it sounds out there. It sounds like the 667 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: science it's massively advanced, beyond what we're currently aware of 668 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: versions of this legend. This is an urban legend, have 669 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: been circulating for decades and decades and decades, And when 670 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: I first heard it, you know, it made sense to 671 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 1: me on some level because I always thought the fast 672 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: food stick, their whole thing was weird and delicious and 673 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: evil but delicious. It's delicious. It's evil and it's delicious. 674 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 1: I always thought it was weird. The example that stayed 675 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: with me. I don't know if you ever if you 676 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: ever knew this, but years, years, years ago, I went 677 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: to a Chick fil A and I just wanted a sandwich, fries, 678 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: and to coke. They said, on a combo meal. What's 679 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: the difference, and they said, well, it comes with slaw 680 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: And I said, okay, that's fine. I don't want any 681 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: slaw though, I just want a sandwich, some fries and 682 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: to drink. And they said, okay, but will we give 683 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: you that. It's going to be more expensive than if 684 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: we gave you the combo with the slaw. So yeah, yeah, 685 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: I made the same face that Matt's making now, which is, 686 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, you're tilted a little slight eyebrow for because 687 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: what that means essentially is that I am paying attacks 688 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: to not have slaw. I am like I I am required, 689 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: I am mandated to help them dispose of their cold slaw. 690 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: God knows where it came from, and God goes. They 691 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 1: don't care where it goes. But if I refuse to 692 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: participate in this, in this slaw exchange, the this slaw transaction. Yeah, yeah, 693 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: this slaw spiracy, then I will have to pay a toll. 694 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: Essentially I am and being taxed for this. I don't 695 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: get it either, So, you know, having experienced stuff like that, 696 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 1: and maybe that's maybe I just had a weird one 697 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: off mental tete a tete with with the somebody to 698 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: give you of working to Chick fil A. Yes, but 699 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: with that in mind, it's one of those things that 700 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: can help you. It's a bread crumble along the precipitous 701 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: slope into the idea of mutant chickens. KFC, not Chick 702 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: fil A or Popeye's was usually the one that was 703 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: most soften accused. The earlier versions of the story were 704 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: like six legged chickens, and the idea was that the 705 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: birds were so plumped up by chemicals also that there 706 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: there huge bodies were impossible for them to support. You know, 707 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: the room feet walking, so they have more sixth day 708 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: like chickens because the you know, the questions, how do 709 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: they taste? How does this six legged chicken taste? You know, 710 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: because no one's ever caught one. I'm sorry, I was 711 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: just pausing for laughter. Us I heard the booze and 712 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: the wamp wamp from here. But but it's true. That 713 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: was the idea. And this rumor was so popular that 714 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: Kentucky Fried Chicken itself eventually addressed it on their own 715 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: website in a page that has since been removed. It 716 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: also tied into I don't know if you ever heard 717 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: this one, the idea that the federal government make Kentucky 718 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: Fried Chicken changed their name to KFC because what they 719 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: were using could not legally nor ethically be called chicken. Oh, 720 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: so now it's just KFC the thing. There's no chicken involved. 721 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: It was going to be legal fried. There you go, 722 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: bringing it back funny then, I mean, I do remember 723 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: hearing that. Actually, I do remember hearing that. And here 724 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: we have from the KFC website their response to this 725 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,919 Speaker 1: rumor of mutant chickens or whatever you want to call them. 726 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: Uh you, I'll get there. I'll get there, keep going 727 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: to you give me a second. Here we go. We 728 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: can set the record straight. No mutated or genetically engineered 729 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: chickens are involved in making our delicious KFC chicken. Just 730 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: one real chicken from US farms, which have to pass 731 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: over third equality checks and U s D a inspection 732 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: before being hand prepared by one of our cooks. Ultimately, 733 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: less than ten percent of chickens meet KFC's high standards 734 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: for quality, which includes no artificial hormones or steroids, a 735 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: federal regulation. Favorite out of context quote, there may I 736 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: ask you to do? Uh Colonel Sanders esque voice. No 737 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: mutated chickens are involved in make an hour delicious fried chicken. 738 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 1: It's a true story. It's full from the internet, the 739 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: official site, and they moved it somewhere else. But you 740 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,959 Speaker 1: you can find that. I love the KFC. KFC just thought, 741 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, if we if we throw the word delicious 742 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: around like somebody throwing a crucifix around a vampire, maybe 743 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: that'll ward off these allegations. At this point. Uh, you know, 744 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: for for most of the lifespan of this theory or 745 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: this rumor, the technology wasn't there to the scale that 746 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: would need to have occurred, right, sure, just growing meat 747 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: like that essentially, but that may be the future. Lab 748 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: grown meat is already a thing, and has been for 749 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: a number of years now. It's just a question of 750 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 1: again making a large enough amount of it. Right, there's 751 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: a mutated chicken thing, the idea of no beaks, no heads, 752 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: extra wings, extra legs. That has a very low likelihood 753 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: of being true. However, the way that these individual animals 754 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: are treated in just normal no smoking, mirrors, uh, skull 755 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: and bones livestock life. They do have tremendously painful laves, right, 756 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: Their beaks are chopped off, they are oftentime unable to walk, 757 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: and they are of course, as we said, pumped full 758 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 1: of antibiotics to stop the infections that would otherwise rage 759 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: through them. So it's still not pretty. But they do 760 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: have brains. Yeah, let's move away from meat. Let's let's 761 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: get something that's maybe meat adjacent. Yeah about Uh you 762 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: like fond Oh, my gosh, fond We used to have 763 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: an amazing fondue place in Atlanta. No, it was on 764 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: a pirate ship. Oh that's right. Uh, Dantanna's Dante's Dante's 765 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 1: down the hatch and I miss it. So badly. Yeah, 766 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: that place is great, and it was part of that 767 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: fon du craze that swept the US. It turns out 768 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: that the fon du craze, there's a conspiracy, not a 769 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. The fon du craze was manufactured by what 770 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: we could reasonably call big cheese. The big cheese was responsible. 771 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: The big Cheese. I feel like we need a sound 772 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: cue for that. Technically, their name is the Swiss Cheese Union. 773 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: That's how we'd say in English. A little bit after 774 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: World War One, cheese consumption was really low. People just 775 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: had other priorities. And the Swiss Cheese Union, which sounds 776 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: like the name of some indie band that we would 777 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,959 Speaker 1: have been in in college. The Swiss Cheese Union says, 778 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,360 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna get together. We're gonna reduce supply, 779 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 1: we're going to create artificial scarcity, we're gonna fixed prices. 780 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: We're also going to limit the types of cheese that 781 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: you can legally make, and then will will literally rough 782 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: people up if they don't play ball with us. This 783 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: is in Switzerland, is throughout Europe eventually, and in Switzerland 784 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: so in common. And they also got the government involved. 785 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: So the government collaborated with them, and they made an 786 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: a marketing push that was Bernet's level clever to get 787 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: people to convince people they like fondue. Who doesn't like 788 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: like cheese dep anyway? Right? People love dipping. Dipping is 789 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: one of the best things about eating in general. You 790 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,760 Speaker 1: dip stuff and stuff, you know what I mean. Sauces 791 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: are great, and if your sauce is mostly cheese, I mean, 792 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 1: come on, you're you're ahead, so winning your light years ahead. 793 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 1: You're just sort of you know, it's in some culture 794 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 1: you are a god. You're like, there's a cargo cult 795 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,720 Speaker 1: about the cheese sauce guy, absolutely, which I would be into. 796 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: I would hear him out. I'm not saying I convert, 797 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: but i'd hear him out. I mean, some caso case, 798 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: it was just fondue in a different vessel, right, yeah, man, Yeah, 799 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: I have no shame about the ungodly unclean amount of 800 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: cheese I eat me too. I'm kind of always up 801 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: for it, sort of like an arsonist. Uh you know, 802 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: I asked an arsenists if they want to see a 803 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 1: fire most of the time. I imagine not hanging out 804 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,399 Speaker 1: with any arsenist that A'm aware of I imagine most 805 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: of the time they're like, I'll check it out. They 806 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: might not do anything, but they might want to just 807 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: window shop. I literally was just daydreaming about Caso being 808 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: right here between us and a whole bunch of chips. 809 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: I'd be so great, man, I'm so hungry. Ah so 810 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: even after this, yeah, I'm hungry as well. So so 811 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,280 Speaker 1: it turns out that the fondue craze quote unquote was manufactured. 812 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 1: Here's one that we saved for. You are good, pal 813 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: are super producer, Paul Mission controlled decade Paul and the 814 00:53:54,680 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 1: Teledeconds Paul Chipotle decond I've to tell it, he goes 815 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: by that sometimes just for the sheer number of delicious 816 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: burritos and slightly lime flavored chips he consumes. The Chipotle 817 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: down the street from us actually has a day in 818 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: Paul's honor because when things are getting rough, he he 819 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 1: saved the business. Oh really is very It's a very inspirational, 820 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: inspirational story. I think Disney's optioning it is that when 821 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: there were outbreaks occurring, a Chipotle is all over the place, 822 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: ding ding ding, Yes, yes, whole in one there were outbreaks, 823 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: reports of the cole I most famously, I think, but 824 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: there were other things too write oh yes, salmonella, NOA virus, 825 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: um yum, yum yum. But that icole I is always 826 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 1: the one that freaks me and probably a lot of 827 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: us out the most, just because it is, you know, poop. Yeah, yeah, 828 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: that's what it is. The weird thing about these scandals 829 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: is they all occurred within a few months of each 830 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: other in and then it happened again in and that's 831 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: when a fellow named Aaron Allen at a restaurant consulting 832 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: group Aaron Allen Associates, said that he saw a pattern. 833 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: He said, look, I see a pattern, not just in 834 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: the food poisoning that's occurring, which you know, Chipotle, to 835 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: their credit and their parent company, did a great job 836 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: in finding the finding the bad food products, right, But 837 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Allen said there was another pattern that was functioning 838 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: a concert with the incidencies of food poisoning. He said 839 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: he saw the stock activity and he's paying attention to 840 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: it because Aaron Allen says, of course, after there's a 841 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 1: scandal again, there's some eat coal I, there's some you know, 842 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 1: there's some poop in the burritos. Naturally, a sack price drops. Right. 843 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 1: This was at a time when people were very anti 844 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: feces and burritos. It's just not where the market was. Uh. 845 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: And his idea was that someone was intentionally doing this, 846 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,359 Speaker 1: maybe not someone working for Chipotle, but someone was some 847 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: sort of reach was manufacturing the scandal. They were making 848 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: the stock price drop, and then they were buying it 849 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: up again for pennies on the dollar, knowing that it 850 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: would eventually rise because it would just be a cycle thing. Right, Because, 851 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: as as superproducer Paul Decan can attest, Chipotle is going gangbusters. 852 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: You know, it'll hit some bumps in the road, but 853 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: they're they're not in trouble man. That is in that's intense. 854 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: That this equivalent of letting a or purposefully having a 855 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: certain part of a city or something being run down 856 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 1: by depriving it of let's say police officers or or 857 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, just letting something happen to where the property 858 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: prices get so low to the point where you can 859 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: buy all of it and then put up your own thing. 860 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: That's what it was occurring allegedly in the Chipotle market. 861 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 1: According to Uh, this Aaron Allen Fellow right, right, And 862 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: again he does run a consulting group or did at 863 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 1: the time. So there's one one more we'll touch on today, 864 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: and this this could be just a bit of a 865 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: palate Glantzer. It's a fun idea, right. The world's probably 866 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: not gonna burn down because of this one. So have 867 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: you ever been in a Starbucks and said, Okay, hi, 868 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,479 Speaker 1: my name is you know, Chanelle or Donovan, I've got 869 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: the drink that I want, whatever, And then you go, uh, 870 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: you wait for them to call your name and they 871 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: yell out something like Danielle or Shanavan or you know 872 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: something that wasn't your name but it's it's like slightly 873 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: off or whatever. Uh. There's the theory, an Internet rumor. 874 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a fan theory that Starbucks employees 875 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: do this on purpose because when people post they're hilariously 876 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: misspelledroum is pronounced names, they're written on the cup. It's 877 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: free marketing for Starbucks. What do you think about that? Um, okay, 878 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: here's what I would say. I am and I do 879 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 1: not know the numbers here. I have not looked into this, 880 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: but I imagine that it is not quite as amazing 881 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: for your social media feed to post a Starbucks cup 882 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: no matter what's inside that container. It's probably not as 883 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: amazing to do that as it would be to do 884 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: some smaller chain, right with a generic cup of coffee 885 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: or something like that. Does does that make any sense? 886 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 1: Like just that branding within your feet? I can imagine 887 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: that's not as an exciting as of an exciting thing 888 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: to post as would be if it was a small chain. 889 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: So perhaps by having that funny moment occur, the Starbucks 890 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: is back in the feeds just with you know, Adam's 891 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: name misspelled? Oh yeah, yeah, because they know you're going 892 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: to post it. I don't buy it. It seems a 893 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: little Rube Goldberg esque, right, It seems secuitous, it seems unnecessary. 894 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 1: But but Starbucks literally needs zero advertising, ben right, right, 895 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: when's the last time you saw a Starbucks by itself 896 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: without you know, like another Starbucks down the street. I'm 897 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: sure they exist. I just think they're increasingly rare. So 898 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: we're we're in this situation right where where we have 899 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 1: to ask ourselves whether this was a Bob Ross style 900 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: happy accident, and I think I think that's the most 901 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: likely occurrence here. Did you know I played my first 902 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: professional music gig at a Starbucks on one that's a 903 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: that's a very local reference in Atlanta, played my very 904 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: first gig our Bucks. It was fine, the coffee was 905 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: perfectly fine back then in the early two thousand's. What 906 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: a time, those halcyon days. Uh. This does bring us 907 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 1: to a stopping point where we have simply scratched the 908 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: surface of a multitude of food conspiracies. Will return to 909 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: some other ones in the future, but we would also 910 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: like to hear your take on these the ones we 911 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: examined in this episode, ones that you think you your 912 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 1: fellow audience members should be aware of whether there's something's 913 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of a funny thought experiment like Starbucks, or whether 914 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: it's something uh, incredibly disturbing like chocolate, or whether it's 915 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: something that just makes you makes you think for a second, 916 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: it gives it gives you something to grind your cognitive 917 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: gears against. I will say there's one thing I'm very 918 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 1: interested in here that we touched on, and it has 919 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: to do with the meat manufacturing processes. And I have 920 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: read in a lot of places, uh and seen documentaries 921 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: actually about the effects of specifically cattle on you know, 922 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: what would be global climate change. And I have not 923 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: done the research like we would do for one of 924 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: these episodes on that topic. And I'm interested in it, 925 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: but I would like to know. I think we would 926 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: all like to know if you are interested in that, 927 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: and we should Should we do an episode on that? 928 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Um anytime we bring up climate change. It's a bit 929 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: controversial just from the viewpoints of all of us coming forward, 930 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: but I think the science generally isn't so well. Here's 931 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: the here's the thing. So I think it's an ext 932 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: lille idea of for another show we do here at 933 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: the office called car Stuff. We looked into that. Uh yeah, 934 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: the amount of the amount of pollutants that cattle alone 935 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: released into the atmosphere is it is enormously significant. It's 936 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a lot. Uh. We have a full episode on that 937 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: if you want to check it out. We also had 938 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: an episode on hybrids, uh that that relates to this 939 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,959 Speaker 1: energy consumption, because you know, when hybrids first came out, 940 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: many many people were saying, I can make the world 941 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 1: a better place. I don't have to change that much. 942 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: You just have to pay a little more for a car, 943 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But the problem with hybrids 944 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: and the problem with some electric vehicles at that time 945 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: was that they were pulling their electricity from a power grid. 946 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: What was supplying that power grid coal? Coal, That's right, 947 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: So congratulations on your coal powered car. You just move 948 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 1: the pollution a bit further away from your line of 949 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 1: mental sight. And I'm not I'm not being detegrated. The 950 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 1: technology has come a long way, and overall, I think 951 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: the world is is attempting to find a newer, less 952 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: long term harmful alternatives. But you're right, that is there's 953 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: something sinister about cattle when it comes to pollution, and 954 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: it's something that a lot of people don't think about. 955 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 1: The biggest thing for me, Ben and Paul and everybody 956 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: out there is how, honestly, like I want to, I'm 957 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation with you off air, maybe we 958 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 1: bring it to the air at some point, but how 959 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: you were able to maintain vegetarianism for a sustained period 960 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: of time. Because I've been attempting personally in my life 961 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 1: to do a little more of that, and I'm not 962 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: having a lot of success, because I really am Maybe 963 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's addicted to certain flavorings or 964 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: fats or something. I don't know what it is. I'm 965 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: at least trained to eat in a certain way. I'm 966 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: trying to fight it. Here's what happened to me, and 967 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 1: we can't talk about this on air. And but uh, 968 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: first I became very busy and also very lazy, okay. 969 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 1: And then it was dating someone who was a vegetarian, 970 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 1: so it made it very easy to say yes to that. 971 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 1: Uh okay, you know, uh, and she was a fantastic cook. Uh. 972 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,959 Speaker 1: But but I don't know. It's it's easy to become 973 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: lazy of relationships and dates, date someone and say, oh, 974 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: all right, that's the thing you're into. I got Yeah, 975 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I guess I like Scott too, now you know. So, 976 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: but there are you know, we have a lot of 977 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: vegetarians in the crowd. Maybe you can help Matt and 978 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: I out. I am also eating a lot, uh a 979 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: lot less meat and not full confession, not because of 980 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: ethical reasons, but because I I was eating like a 981 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: wolf would eat for the last part of twenty nineteen. 982 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: So I'm stepping back. Yeah, but I saw this a 983 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: steak tomorrow my future. I I saw that picture. Yeah. Yeah, 984 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: I've eaten a lot of stuff. I've eating horses, I've 985 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 1: eaten um, yeah, I remember that. And you've eating a 986 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. I I it might be too I 987 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: might be too far gone, Matt. But it's not too 988 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: late for you, right. We We also want to say 989 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: that these next generations of food related conspiracies will, why 990 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: possibly take a harder, more sinister edge as the food 991 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 1: supply evolves. It must to feed the increasing human population. 992 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: We hope this evolution succeeds, but you can already see 993 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: the roots of its stretching back for years. The United Nations, 994 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:27,520 Speaker 1: for instance, has fully and and ironically endorsed the idea 995 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: of normalizing insect consumption. It's a great source of protein, right, 996 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Also eating bugs, they're not that bad, depends on how 997 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: to make them. Yeah. I have not partaken yet, but 998 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 1: but I do think it's something that I know, it's 999 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: something that I need to at least approach with a 1000 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: with an open mind. You've never really Yeah, I think 1001 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: I have some stuff at my desk. Okay, I gotta 1002 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 1: I gotta get an open mind first. Okay, alright, alright, 1003 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 1: well let us know. Let us know where you get there, Mat, 1004 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: and also let us know what you think. What are 1005 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: the biggest food conspiracies of the world is currently ignoring? 1006 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 1: What do you think is overblown? What do you think 1007 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 1: is under reported? We want to hear from you. You 1008 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,840 Speaker 1: can find us on Facebook, you can find us on Instagram, 1009 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 1: you can find us on Twitter. We've already recommended it 1010 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 1: once today. But please do check out our favorite part 1011 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: of the show, your fellow listeners on our community page. 1012 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. Yes, that is a part 1013 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 1: of Facebook. Check it out. You can find it. 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It 1024 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 1: put it out to me that it was not, in 1025 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 1: fact Billy Mays, who said, but wait there's more. Who 1026 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 1: was it? It was the other guy. It was Ron 1027 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Popel with the spray on hair. Yeah, yeah, he's a one. 1028 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: You said it and I thought, no, that can't be true, 1029 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 1: and I dug through and because I distinctly visually right, 1030 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 1: I remember Billy Mays saying this, or I think I do. 1031 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 1: But they said there's a Mandela conspiracy about this going 1032 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 1: around a Mandela effect. What Mandela effect? Yeah? So interesting stuff, right, 1033 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 1: But we do want to correct that. With absolutely all 1034 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 1: due respect to Billy and Ron, I am sure that 1035 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 1: they both appreciate us getting that quote straightened out. Oh 1036 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: and one thing before we get out of here, let's 1037 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 1: check in with the old current world population right now. 1038 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: We're at seven billion, seven hundred and fifty seven million, 1039 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and fourteen thousand and seven hundred and eighty 1040 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: and last things. Last, if you have a suggestion for 1041 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: a show you think your fellow listeners will enjoy. 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