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Speaker 1: Oh you.

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Speaker 2: My sister in law excluded me from her wedding, so

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Speaker 2: I took back my wedding favors. Divorced October one, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, time sensitive since the wedding is this Friday.

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Speaker 2: I was asked by my mother in law a while

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Speaker 2: ago to make two cakes for my sister in law's wedding.

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Speaker 2: From my understanding, these will not be the main dessert

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Speaker 2: or the actual wedding cake. They cut for photos, just

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Speaker 2: extra takes for wedding guests with food allergies. I myself

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Speaker 2: have a dairy allergy, and my husband's goddaughter, who is

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Speaker 2: the flower girl, has celiac. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 2: make gluten free cakes and a dairy free cake. Baking

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Speaker 2: is not my main job, but I did go to

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Speaker 2: culinary school and I occasionally bake out of my home

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Speaker 2: on the side and have made wedding cakes before he

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Speaker 2: got a hobby or a thriving.

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Speaker 1: Side business cake person.

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Speaker 2: My mother in law said she would pay me to

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Speaker 2: make them and buy ingredients, but she has yet to

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Speaker 2: also has never sent me reference photos or inspo picks

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Speaker 2: of how sister in law wants the cakes to look,

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Speaker 2: which I did requests for added context. Sister in law

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Speaker 2: and I are not close anymore. We used to get

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Speaker 2: along well in the beginning of my relationship with my

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Speaker 2: now husband sister in law's brother, but over time we

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Speaker 2: have drifted apart. My husband and I are not fans

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Speaker 2: of her fiance, and that definitely has put a stain

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Speaker 2: on our relationship with her, but we try to just

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Speaker 2: accept the fact that if she's happy, we can be

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Speaker 2: happy for her. All right, So, got a little backstory here.

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Speaker 2: The events of the last month have led me to

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Speaker 2: not want to make cakes for her wedding anymore. But

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if it will make me the a hole

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Speaker 2: if I don't want to make them slash back out

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Speaker 2: so close to the wedding, all right, So Ooh, is

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Speaker 2: Opie the a hole?

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: About four weeks ago was sister in law's bachelorette party.

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Speaker 2: She got an airbnb for the whole weekend for her

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Speaker 2: and her bridesmaids and my mother in law. I was

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Speaker 2: there weren't enough bets, but was invited to be a

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Speaker 2: part of the Saturday plans and I could get my

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Speaker 2: My mother in law calls me the morning of and

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Speaker 2: basically tries to convince me it isn't worth the drive

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Speaker 1: Me to be safe. Hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Mother in law said she was worried about me driving

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Speaker 2: alone on unfamiliar roads late at night. On the way back,

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Speaker 2: I said, I didn't want to miss out on sister

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Speaker 2: in law's bachelor out party. It sounds like they're trying

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Speaker 2: to force you out. Yes, that's exactly what it sounds like.

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Speaker 2: There's a little conspiracy theory going on. Yeah, and said

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Speaker 1: Opie had gone all the way out there. That is crazy.

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Speaker 1: You at least have to Tellowpee the truth before four.

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Speaker 2: Before four, and I was basically uninvited. So I drove

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Speaker 2: these are people that ask op to bake a cake

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Speaker 2: for their wedding. I am not baking that cake. I

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Speaker 2: am not baking That is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Also, do we know whether they ask to bake it

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Speaker 1: far OPI has not received any payment none of that's

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Speaker 1: that's doing work for free. That's doing work for free. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, and also TLDR to catch a road to you.

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Speaker 2: A woman's sister in law excluded her from this bridal party,

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Speaker 2: so seems like she might be taking back her cakes

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Speaker 2: sure why I was even invited if that was the case,

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Speaker 2: I drove two hours over there. I told my husband everything,

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Speaker 2: disappointed he was that I treated them that way and

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Speaker 2: I also never heard from sister in law. Flashboard to

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Speaker 2: last weekend. I find out there's another batch party. I

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Speaker 2: read that as bach party. I'm like damn into Dun

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Speaker 2: Dun dun, the into bog and hulpen another bachelor party

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Speaker 2: I assume I wasn't invited, and I'm still hurt. I

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Speaker 2: for being excluded. Again, Yeah, of course, yes, of course

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Speaker 2: you're going to be hurt. They are specifically excluding you

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Speaker 2: from these multiple parties.

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Speaker 1: And this is a family only party. Yeah, family only.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, hey, don't bring anyone. We exactly

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Speaker 1: my husband got the invitation Idand so.

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Speaker 2: My question is are they inviting other significant others his family?

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Speaker 2: They almost certainly, almost certainly Well, he goes and when

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Speaker 1: Oh, do you see what I'm seeing? I'm seeing what

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Speaker 1: you're seeing? What you see? This is the class classic

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Speaker 1: is a classic. Parents don't approve of the spouse, so

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Speaker 1: that they.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to set you back up with your ex. Well,

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Speaker 2: he goes, and he gets back and tells me that

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Speaker 2: knowing that an ex girlfriend of my husband was invited

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Speaker 2: to my sister in law's second bachelor party meant for family,

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't the exit. Again, this is a bachelor

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Speaker 2: party meant only for family. The ex girlfriend is not family. Yep,

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Speaker 2: I'd even know sister in law and husband's ex were friends.

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Speaker 2: This was a whole new level of pain and confusion,

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Speaker 2: and it seemed very intentionally spiteful or extremely coincidental all

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Speaker 2: shocked and at a loss for words. I truly don't

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Speaker 2: understand what I could have done to cause his family

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Speaker 2: care about my feeling, My relationship with my sister in

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Speaker 2: law has been a little strained lately, but not to

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Speaker 2: this degree, and it was something I was hoping we

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Speaker 2: could work on and fix.

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Speaker 1: I wonder why it was strange.

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Speaker 2: It is hard for me to imagine coming back from this,

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Speaker 2: and up until now I thought we had a pretty

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Speaker 2: good relationship.

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Speaker 1: With mother in law.

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Speaker 2: I sent a message to her over the weekend about

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Speaker 2: how hurt I am by her and her family, and

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Speaker 2: as I'm writing this, he still has yet to respond.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to back out on the cake order.

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Speaker 1: Girl.

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Speaker 2: You could back out on that cake order, be beepep

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Speaker 2: get it out of there so close to the wedding.

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Speaker 2: But I also barely even want to go to the

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Speaker 2: I'm worried if I don't do the cakes, they will

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Speaker 2: hold it against me and make me look like the

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Speaker 2: bad guy. I don't want to damage the relationship even further,

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Speaker 2: but I'm struggling with so many emotions with this, the

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Speaker 2: reddits would I be the a hole if I don't

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Speaker 1: What do we think, John? What should OPI do? Dude?

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Speaker 1: I mean she definitely is so so so not obligated

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Speaker 1: to make these cakes. Yeah, I do see what she's

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Speaker 1: saying though, because they could so eat It's easily be like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like totally she ruined it. She ruined the wedding,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, what are you gonna do? Go around

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Speaker 1: and like to know, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 3: Also, the cakes are one is for her and one

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Speaker 3: is for a niece, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah what was this? Yeah? What was the second cake for?

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Speaker 3: So I think it was. Yeah, that's the case. What

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do one not going to make the

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Speaker 3: a few cupcakes for the celiac, you know, god daughter

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Speaker 1: Are you not not making any cakes? Bro? Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I do it for the kids. I see what Riley's saying.

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Speaker 1: It any cakes for basically like, hey, look I am

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Speaker 1: the good person. Look I made I made the specific

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Speaker 1: cake for the person with seal like disease because like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this was an innocent person. I had promised to do this, but.

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Speaker 3: Not even a cake, just cocakes, something that they don't

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Speaker 3: feel left out.

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Speaker 1: Yeh yeah, yeah, yeah it's a kid.

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Speaker 3: If it was an adult, they could have figured it out.

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Speaker 3: But but it's like, but it's you're not obligated just

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Speaker 3: food out and you're not. I don't think like op

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Speaker 3: even feels welcome at this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I know. I'm also team like, don't don't go

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Speaker 1: to the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so she has to make Wait, what are the

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Speaker 2: two cakes as the Celiac cake? And then what's the

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Speaker 2: other cake?

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Speaker 1: The main wedding cake? I believe, but it was there

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Speaker 1: a dietary stream one wedding cake? Is there a dietary

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Speaker 3: Bobby Bot? What are the dietary restrictions? Bobby Bot does

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Speaker 3: not exist?

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Speaker 1: Well wait, let me talk to him.

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Speaker 3: When we talk to him, Bobby bots, what are the

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Speaker 2: Let us I think we need to call it Madigascar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's saying Bobby bots? What are the dietary restrictions.

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Speaker 2: So so Reddit, would I be the A hole? No,

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Speaker 2: Yes, And that was the internet's consensus. Don't make cakes

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Speaker 2: commoner says, not the a hole, but mother in law

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Speaker 2: The reason is like, that's family, Like he can make

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do anything that you want with yourself,

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Speaker 2: And another commeder says absolutely, do not, under any circumstances

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Speaker 2: You don't want or need people like this in your life.

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Speaker 2: As you've said, You've done nothing wrong, and they're off

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Speaker 2: acting like lunatics. Tell your husband to deal with them

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Speaker 1: And we got an update. We got an update.

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Speaker 2: I'm not afraid I would tell them, hey, like I

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would say that, because then there's other there's

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Speaker 1: innocent bystanders. Yeah, bet are involved, and it's like, all right,

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, but here we go. Let's get in to

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Speaker 2: this update. Update about seven months later. So when I

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Speaker 2: Before it was taken down with the months, I had

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Speaker 2: other cupcakes purchased from a gluten free specialty bakery on

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Speaker 1: Okay, this feels like intention, This feels like, Oh, we're

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Speaker 1: She's she's giving too much. Hope, you're giving so much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're poison tonic. What does CPP, she said, shaking

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Speaker 2: my head. She suffers from CPP with finding people pleasing,

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Speaker 2: it up. Chronic people pleasing. Yeah, CPP, chronic people pleasing. Foreshore,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I seriously cannot make this stuff up. I was floored

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Speaker 2: I asked if he ever wanted to leave and go home,

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Speaker 1: So much of this is so obviously intentional. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: like this all feels attention. Yeah, followed it? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Sophie says, I've been accused of being a hot head,

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Speaker 2: around and saw that the bridal party and family members

437
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 2: had those cups and they were personalized. We of course,

438
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 2: were never given told were offered ones, but guess who

439
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,960
Speaker 2: did have one? Right again, the ex girlfriend.

440
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,439
Speaker 1: They didn't even that's like her brother.

441
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,679
Speaker 2: Okay, but really quick one. Yeah, this has to be

442
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,680
Speaker 2: intentional at this point. But why why? Like there has

443
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 2: to be a reason this sister in law is pissed. Yep,

444
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's for no reason. There has

445
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,199
Speaker 2: to be a reason. It could be a reason, but

446
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 2: there has to be a reason. I feel like we

447
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,479
Speaker 2: need to get curious about what the heck is going on.

448
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,920
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. I very very much wanted

449
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 1: to know where was the Again, it could be it

450
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 1: could be a thing that they just used to do

451
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 1: all this bowl crap out of. But uh, there's there's

452
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 1: some something happened, there's something stinky. Well, just another slide

453
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,120
Speaker 1: against me, slash us. And to be clear, we were

454
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 1: not expecting free drinks or to be on the bride

455
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 1: and groom's tab or anything, but the fact that we

456
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,199
Speaker 1: were not only excluded, but basically cast away from the

457
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 1: family table, hidden in the back, almost ambushed with an

458
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 1: awkward af dinner, telling me they still wanted me to

459
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 1: make cupcakes when they had already ordered them from another

460
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Speaker 1: bakery in town.

461
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 2: And everything else we would just had a loss for words.

462
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 2: We tried to make the best of it and just

463
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Speaker 2: enjoy the night spite at all. We danced with his

464
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 2: goddaughter got really wasted thanks to lovely and support of

465
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Speaker 2: bartenders at the lobby bar, and I made sure mother

466
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 2: in law saw me give one of my cupcakes to

467
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Speaker 2: the goddaughter. I took the rest of the cupcakes and

468
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 2: gave them to the lobby bartenders since they treated us

469
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 2: more like family. Mother in law did try to come

470
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: up to me and talk during the reception. She asked

471
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Speaker 2: if I thought things would ever be okay between us

472
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Speaker 2: again and if we could get back to the way

473
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 2: things were before. But I held true to my word

474
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: and told her that this was not the time or

475
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Speaker 2: place to talk things out. This is sister in law's

476
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,959
Speaker 2: day and I did not want to take away from

477
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 2: that and make it about me, but that she made

478
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: it very clear to me where I stand and that

479
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 2: she does not consider me family and left it at that.

480
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 2: By the way, we consider you family all and if

481
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Speaker 2: you want to snuggle up into the familial circle, check

482
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Speaker 2: out our podcast by search an Okay story Time on

483
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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app just search.

484
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Speaker 1: Okay, story time, there's another relevant update. But oh my god,

485
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: oh my god.

486
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Speaker 2: I feel like they have made it very clear, very

487
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 2: clear where op stands.

488
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 1: Yep. I think listen, I think listen, yep. And when

489
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: people tell you who they are, when they tell the truth,

490
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: don't ignore it.

491
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Speaker 2: Don't ignore it, don't ignore it. But oh, she's wheeze

492
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 2: for Peas. It's a feel bad Forrobi. Yes, yeah, I

493
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 2: feel really really bad. This is a terrible situation. They

494
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 2: had a terrible sitar are clearly doing this intention Yeah,

495
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: but but John, but Sam, we got a little bit

496
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 2: more the story. Oh baby, should we get into it?

497
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: So after the wedding, we basically went loaded no contact

498
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: with them. Mother in law too, tried to facilitate a

499
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: family meeting with everyone, but that has yet to happen.

500
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: It's been seven months and we still haven't talked. Zero

501
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: contact from the sister law. I want to know why, Like,

502
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: what was the falling out that they had?

503
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

504
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: Mother in law has tried reaching out several times but

505
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 2: has never truly apologized or owned up for anything. Is

506
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: that she's sorry for the rift between us and that

507
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: she was too hurt and basically victimizing herself.

508
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: That sums it up.

509
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: Hopefully the update was worth the wait and comments by

510
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: op not that it should matter which parent they came from,

511
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 2: but mother in law too was the birth mom for both.

512
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: They for both they used different baby juice donors for

513
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: each kids, though husband was a rainbow baby and actually

514
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: grew up the Golden Boy. But from what I've seen,

515
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: they've overcompensated that now by enabling sister in law and

516
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: never to telling her no why mother in law felt hurt.

517
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: She was hurt by our low contact after the bachelorette party. Yeah,

518
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: I was expecting it to be a bit tense and

519
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 2: a bit awkward, but it was truly worse than I

520
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: have imagined. Still glad though, so we could witness the

521
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: true colors and know exactly where we stand in the family,

522
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 2: and I have a clean conscience. I can now wash

523
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: my hands. And about the donor, Dad, we never saw him.

524
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he ever showed up. I'm not sure

525
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: why he was even invited or would say he was

526
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: coming to the wedding of someone he has no relation

527
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: to and when he doesn't know the Brian groom. Still

528
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 2: unclear if he was actually supposed to be there, or

529
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: if it was some cool psychological abuse tactic. If mother

530
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: in la law number two knows what's going on, I'm

531
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: sure she only knows system law slash mother and law

532
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 2: number one's version of events, and I'm not sure how

533
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: they spun it. Mother in law number two and husband

534
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: are very similar in their conflict avoidance and peacekeeper tendencies.

535
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: I've had to sweep a lot of my feelings under

536
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: the rug with his family before, and I'm done doing that.

537
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm not cleaning up the mess they made. Husband has

538
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 2: been very supportive partner.

539
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: That's good. There. We go through this and his family

540
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: is on.

541
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: My side and it has my back as I have his.

542
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: He just tends to avoid hard conversations and shuts down

543
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: slash gets quiet when people are upset. It's something we

544
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 2: are working on. I suggested a couple of counselings so

545
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: we can both learn better ways to communicate and deal

546
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: with conflict moving forward. There's definitely things we have to

547
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: unlearn too. I want to break the cycle and not

548
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: carry on the toxic rates but that we may have

549
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: picked up from our parents in past relationships, so they

550
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: don't affect our marriage and he's open to it. As

551
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: for the friend, yes, he's a real one, a great

552
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: friend to both me and my husband, and we're very

553
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: thankful to have her in our lives. And Yeah, things

554
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: had been good with mother in law prior. We'd often

555
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: get lunched in or drinks just the two of us

556
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: and talk frequently. I thought we were actually getting closer

557
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: than ever before. But it all unraveled so quickly. It

558
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 2: was quite the blind side. I was mostly hurt by

559
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: our sudden lack of communication and that she shut me

560
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: out and pushed me aside so easily. I fully understand

561
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: that sister in law is her daughter and it was

562
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: her wedding. I was not expecting my feelings to be

563
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: her priority by any means, but just to be shown

564
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: little empathy perhaps, so a little understanding or acknowledgment of

565
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: my feelings offer any sort of explanation, maybe, And that

566
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: is where it ends.

567
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: Wow, that is where that ends. They started bad and

568
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: they stayed bad. They stayed bad. They were consistent, They

569
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: were consistent. This is an unfortunate, unfortunate end. Oh yeah,

570
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: but you know what I think, OPI kind of learned

571
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: where everyone stood. Yeah, and condistance herself and condistance condisance herself,

572
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: and that will lead to having a better life versus

573
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: like not really knowing and keep getting all these slights. Yeah,

574
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: I think ope will end in the better position that

575
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: she starts. I believe so. But that is where that

576
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: story ends. And I think we believe we have another story.

577
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: Oh or you.

578
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 2: Unfortunately I do have to leave, But we got another story.

579
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: So we got someone else coming in. Oh, you take

580
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: my place and give you some deliciousness, some nutritiousness, and

581
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: some wistfulness.

582
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: Inquisitiveness, inquisitiveness. She's coming on the stream.

583
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: On the way without further ado, the changing of the God.

584
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: You know her from this show, but you know her

585
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: as your queen, aout further ado, your worm.

586
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: Queen Sophia. It is the queen. She has arrived, the

587
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: best named member. So Sophia Gang ganglof Callan. It's true,

588
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: it is true. No one can deny it.

589
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: Your debate, Yes, Sophia's the best name.

590
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: It is it is, It is decided.

591
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, all the Sophia's have gotten into a parliament and voted.

592
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: They voted unanimously that Sophia is the best. Sweeping legislation

593
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: has sweep swept, our nation. Sophia's are in. Everyone else

594
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: is out out of here. That's right.

595
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 5: The Talmas says, Wait, isn't Sophia wearing sam shirt? This

596
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 5: is my shirt? Is my shirt that I got from

597
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 5: a thrift store.

598
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: Come on showing any.

599
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 5: Of Sam's fashion sense as of late with stuff that

600
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 5: I told him to wear two years ago.

601
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: Whoa?

602
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: Now now he's hopping on whoa?

603
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: So he's just kind of biting your style. He's late

604
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: to the ba's late four months late to the party. Truly,

605
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: that's almost as much time as it took for me

606
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: to get burned.

607
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 5: It's true. Also true. Wow, that's the elephant gestation period.

608
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: That's right to me and the elephant, and we're locked in.

609
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: But ladies and gentlemen, we're also locked in with this

610
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: next story. So without further ado, I used to have

611
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Speaker 1: a great at the beginning of the title, right Riley, Yes, sir.

612
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 5: I thought you were saying something. Oh no, I was

613
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 5: just he says, Sophia has a great name.

614
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 4: Is a great name. It's better than China.

615
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: Best name ever, better than China, better than any name. Sophia.

616
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: That's a great country.

617
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 4: I would visit Coutry. It's the capital of Bulgaria.

618
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: Everyone loves it all right, already ready. I used to

619
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: have a great relationship with my mother in law until

620
00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: I got married.

621
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Speaker 4: Well, i'd have ever gotten married.

622
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 1: Ooh, I went no contact with my mother in law.

623
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: Seventy one female, I thirty eight female. Used to have

624
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: a great relationship with my mother in law. We'll call

625
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: her Karen.

626
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 4: What's her real name?

627
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Karen?

628
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: Okay.

629
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: Before we met, my husband was living with his mother

630
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: to save money to purchase a home and wanted to

631
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: help out since she's on a fixed income and was

632
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: struggling to manage her own finance. Karen was consistently behind

633
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: on her bill's taxic setra. By the way, this comes

634
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: from both AYR ninety two, twenty nine and if you

635
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Speaker 1: want to submit your own stories, go to the r

636
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Speaker 1: slash Okay storytime stub Bred. So, my husband and I

637
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: started dating in mid twenty twenty two. We met online,

638
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: spoke for a few weeks, and then we met in person.

639
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: From then on, we spent every single day together. That's

640
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: a lot of days, every single day. You guys are

641
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: really into each other, Sophia. There was not one day

642
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: they missed.

643
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 5: That's kind of crazy. I don't think there's anyone that

644
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 5: I've ever seen every.

645
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: Day twenty four sent not even Sam.

646
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 5: No, honestly, probably definitely not Sam. He's he's always going

647
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 5: on trips.

648
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: There is someone you've seen twenty four to seven me

649
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: you that's all right in the mirror to see you now.

650
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: From then on, we spent every day together. Prior to meeting,

651
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: my husband and I were both in the midst of

652
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: getting divorced from toxic partners, and if I'm being honest,

653
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: while neither of us were ready to begin another relationship

654
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: at the time, we were two broken people who healed

655
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Speaker 1: each other and we bonded on that. I met Karen

656
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: on Mother's Day twenty twenty two. She seemed like a

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Speaker 1: nice woman and appeared very accepting. She welcomed me into

658
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Speaker 1: her home, and she welcomed my dog, who admittedly was

659
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: wild and out of control at times. Because my ex

660
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: did not take the time to train her and I

661
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: work a full time job. Things were great. We spent

662
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: a lot of time together with her, going out to

663
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: dinner and inviting her to family events with my family,

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00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: and everyone seemed to get along. We went to weekly

665
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: events on weekends with her, and always tried to include

666
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: her in things since she lived alone and wanted to

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00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: make her feel as little.

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Speaker 4: It's nice sweet in.

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Speaker 1: Theory, in theory. But in June of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: my now husband forty eight male proposed.

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Speaker 4: That's nice in theory or is it?

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Speaker 1: She appeared happy for us and excited that we were

673
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: choosing to spend the rest of our lives together. Fast

674
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Speaker 1: forward to August. Last September twenty twenty four, we asked

675
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: her to move into our parable with us. Terrible idea,

676
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: could be bad, I see you as she was having

677
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: some medical issues. We later realized this was a tens

678
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: seeking behavior because she was lonely and we live a

679
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: very busy life. Sofia might be predicting the future over here.

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00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: She's going to get really involved in your relationship.

681
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: Oh god, she's going to third wheel that yeah, mom?

682
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: Once in Okay, Her house was in less than ideal

683
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: shape and there were some serious issues with it that

684
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: we assumed were causing her health issues. We invited her

685
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: out to dinner one night and asked her to move in.

686
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: While emotional, he accepted. Karen moved in the following day.

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Speaker 1: That's fast. We were planning to get married with a

688
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: media family only in October of twenty twenty four for

689
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: personal reasons, and planned to have a larger wedding with

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00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: our extended family and friends in October of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: When she moved in, we were in the midst of

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Speaker 1: planning our small wedding and I was excited to have

693
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: someone to plan with. For context, my mother and I

694
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: don't speak and we have it in years. That's the

695
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: story for another day. Karen was settling in and about

696
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: a week after she moved in, she had told us

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00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: she purchased an outfit for our wedding. She brought it

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Speaker 1: in to show us, and Karen had bought some white shorts,

699
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: short shorts, a white button up shirt, and a crap

700
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: colored brown knitted tank top that looked like it was

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Speaker 1: something out of Madonna's wardrobe.

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00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 4: Why wait, what is this for it?

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00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: This is I believe Karen's outfit to the wedding, the

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Speaker 1: wedding outfit. I believe this is Karen's outfit to the one.

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Speaker 5: So not only is she wearing white to the wedding,

706
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 5: she's wearing short shorts.

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00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: And a tank top and the knitting literally went in

708
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: a circular pattern leading up to her notes and had

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00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: fringe on the bottom.

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00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 4: Where did she get this from?

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00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: This was absolutely something out of the junior section at Walmart.

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00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 4: Well there you go. I guess if anyone really wants

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00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: that top.

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Speaker 1: This is this is crazy. Uh yeah, what do we

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00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: think about this of you? I think, what what do you?

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00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: Your mother in law shows you the outfit for your wedding?

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00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Your response, Oh, I go hot? Wow, Wow, that's really something.

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00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: I think we were thinking that we would go in

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00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: a different direction, maybe like formal attire because the wedding

720
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: is formal. No, I get hot. I like my short

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00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: shorts and I like my tank top with the knitted

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Speaker 1: thing over.

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Speaker 4: Well maybe we do, like, maybe we do shorts underneath

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Speaker 4: the dress.

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00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: No, I'm hot, I'm hot. I'm an old god out

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Speaker 1: of the wedding.

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Speaker 4: Ah, you so mean and that's how you do it? Mmm?

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Speaker 1: I see chat. Do you agree?

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00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: Common below? But we're gonna keep going here. Hey it's

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Speaker 2: sam og host. We're gonna get back to these delectable stories.

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Speaker 2: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors to

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Speaker 1: So me, being non confrontational, just said, oh okay, that

734
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: looks nice.

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00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: Girl, girl be a little bit more confrontational.

736
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: That looks nice.

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00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: That's like nice.

738
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: Also, Georgia Elis says, but Donna taking strays.

739
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 4: Toki says, does she think she's going to woodstock?

740
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: Ah? Yeah, yes, that what I'm imagining is very much

741
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: giving a wood woodstock vibe. Later that night, we all

742
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: went to bed, and I talked to a husband and asked

743
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: him if we could sit down with his mother and

744
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: ask her not to wear white to our wedding, rather

745
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: than being straight up with Karen because she tends to

746
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: interrupt everything negatively. I mentioned that my mom and grandmother

747
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: were looking for dresses for the wedding and I'd like

748
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: to help her pick something thing different. I asked her

749
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: to be our something blue and suggested a dusty blue dress.

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00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: Dusty blue. That sounds bad.

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00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: No, No, it's just like a type of blue dusty.

752
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you pull up a dusty blue.

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00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: It's like a I think it's like a palish blue.

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00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that feels like like old purple or worn

755
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: out yellow.

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00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: Well, that probably is a color.

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00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Probably, there's so there's so many colors.

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00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: There's kind of so yeah, too many colors.

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00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: It's too many colors. They're great though, Yeah, color are great.

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00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna we're gonna get a visual here.

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00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a pale blue.

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00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: All right. I'm gonna be honest, especially for our podcast

763
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: listeners here where we're looking at the dusty blue dress.

764
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: That is a fantastic shade of blue. It's particularly for

765
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: like a wedding, for dresses, particularly wedding dress. It is

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00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: a very much it exudes wedding.

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00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: I agree.

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00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: It makes me think of like Cinderella and like, uh,

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00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well it is a very similar blue. I would

771
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 5: say it's a very Cinderella blue.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad, but could we call it?

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00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at it.

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00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at the shade.

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00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: You're just mad at the name.

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Speaker 1: I'm mad at the dusty Can we call it? Can

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00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: we call it Cinderella blue? So, yes, you're telling me, Sophie.

778
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Are you telling me what dress you want to buy?

779
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: Do you want to buy dusty blue or do you

780
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: want to buy Cinderella blue?

781
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: I want to buy Cinderella blue. John Sharks, tell me

782
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 4: which trust do you want to buy?

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00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: For a small investment of one hundred million, dollars for

784
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: one percent. I'm changing the name of this color. That's right.

785
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: But let's get back to Karen's dresser and see if

786
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: she if she takes the eight here. So Karen told

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00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: me she already had an outfit and she won't need

788
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: a dress.

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00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: I don't eve she's think I've already got the short,

790
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: short knit sweater.

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00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: Come on. Eventually I showed her a dress she liked

792
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: and we purchased for her to wear. I thought this

793
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: was the end of the drama. Oh how wrong.

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00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 4: I was so still wearing her little outfit.

795
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: I think she's going to get a worse outfit, either

796
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: wedding dress white or like just something even like whacky.

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00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah you know. Yeah. So we had several little things

798
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: come up from that time leading up to the wedding.

799
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Speaker 1: She would take my conditioner in the bathroom and water

800
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Speaker 1: it down. That is so small, but that's so frustrating.

801
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: That is that's frustrating. What right she would leave messes

802
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: all over the house. She would attempt to do dishes,

803
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: which I appreciated. However, Karen did not make sure the

804
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: dishes were truly clean. I'm neurodivergent, so when someone messes

805
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: with my personal things or my routine. It is very

806
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: uncomfortable for me, But being non confrontational, it is also

807
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: hard for me to speak up. Moving on to the

808
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: day of our wedding. We all got up early. We

809
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: all packed up all of our breakfast items that I

810
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: had brought a lot with us, and we headed off

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00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: where we planned to get married. The morning went smoothly

812
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: until we arrived at the wedding location. Oh uh uh uh, oh, indeed.

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Speaker 4: Where's the dress? Did anyone have eyes on the dress?

814
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: We said, eyes on the dress? And we turned forward,

815
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: we have eyes on the dress?

816
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: Where is the dress?

817
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: We arrive and we need to sign our marriage license

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Speaker 1: and bring it to the town hall because they closed

819
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: early that day and we wanted to make sure that

820
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Speaker 1: we got there on time. While we were signing our

821
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Speaker 1: paperwork and getting ready to head out, Karen takes a

822
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Speaker 1: donut covered in chocolate frosting and takes a swipe of

823
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: frosting on her finger, looks at my grandfather and licks

824
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: it off of her finger with this weird, creepy look

825
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: on her face, as if she's trying to seduce Okay.

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Speaker 4: For her donut. Where she get the donut from? How

827
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: old is his grandpa? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind, keep in mind, this is ohp is

829
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Speaker 1: thirty eight? I believe okay, this is like a ninety

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Speaker 1: year old. And she's like, this is this lady's got issues.

831
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Speaker 1: This is it's got a lot of issues.

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Speaker 3: She's seventy one.

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00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 4: She oh, okay, she's seventy one.

834
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: Sow abo how old?

835
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 4: How old is grandpa?

836
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 3: Probably around that age eighty?

837
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Speaker 1: This is crazy? This is this is Banana's Bobby Butt?

838
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: How old is grandpa? Bobby but Bobby Bot? Bobby Box?

839
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: How old Bobby but Bobby Bots? How old is grandpa?

840
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: We shall see if it arrives. Also saying it thing

841
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: more probably makes it a lot harder for.

842
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait okay,

843
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 3: Bobby but Bobby bots?

844
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: How old is grandpa? We shall see this?

845
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 3: Say isn't Bobby bots? Bobby Bots? How old is Grandpa?

846
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: Keep going? You see this crap? Bobby Butt? Ah, We're

847
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: gonna keep We gotta rename this thing, yeah, we'll rename it.

848
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: So throughout the day she continued with this flirty behavior

849
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: towards him. I noticed, my parents noticed, my cousin saw it.

850
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: My best friend noticed. Despite being uncomfortable. Everyone bit their

851
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: tongues for the day so as not to cause any

852
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: additional drama. My husband and I leave to drop off

853
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: our marriage license and pick up our certificates. We get

854
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: back and I start getting ready with my best friend,

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Speaker 1: we'll call her Ella, thirty six female. Ella and I

856
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: were talking and she was helping me out with my

857
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: hair while I was doing my makeup, and we hear

858
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: Karen in the other room telling everyone in a very

859
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: look at me tone about her dress and telling them

860
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: that I bought it for her and I did not.

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00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: She gave me the money and I ordered it for

862
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: her using my online account. She then proceeded to go

863
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: into the kitchen and clean for my grandparents, my grandmother.

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Speaker 1: So just to make things crystal clear here, Grandpa has

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Speaker 1: I think they're still together, but this is Grandpa and

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00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: grandmother together. Yeah, And she's she's trying to get in there.

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Speaker 1: She's trying to get in there like seventy year old

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00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: swimwear hell yep, yep. And my grandmother asked her several

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00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: times to stop as she was making more of a

870
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: mess and that it didn't need to be clean, but

871
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Karen refused to listen. Finally we went out to the

872
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: spot where the ceremony would be held. I asked Ella

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Speaker 1: to take photos of us during the ceremony and a

874
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: video of our vows. Ella was the only one that

875
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: I had asked to take pictures, and I was aware

876
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: that my dad was going to be taking drone footage

877
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: throughout the entire ceremony. Karen was walking around us, standing

878
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: behind Ella's husband, who was our officiant. To be honest,

879
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: until I saw my dad's drone footage, I didn't even

880
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: notice that she wasn't sitting as she should have been,

881
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: so she was like out of her as signed seat

882
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: and she.

883
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: Was like following the drone.

884
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 5: Oh maybe I think I think she was just behind

885
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 5: someone behind the officiant. Yeah, I how did no one

886
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 5: notice that You've got like the officiant and then then

887
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: like op and her her soon to be husband, and

888
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 5: then she's just like.

889
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: She's just like standing there while they're doing their vows

890
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: like I will love you for forever like chew. Oh, sorry,

891
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: Karen's just like sneezing on their on their vow.

892
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's going on there?

893
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: What's going on?

894
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 5: Karen?

895
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: You explain yourself. The following day, my grandmother called me

896
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: and we talked about the wedding in Karen's behavior. I

897
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: talked to my husband about it when we left to

898
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: run some eron's alone a few days later, when I

899
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: call him down, I spoke to Karen and I told

900
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: her that her behavior towards my grandfather and throughout the

901
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: wedding was uncalled for and inappropriate. And she denied it all.

902
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: She denied it all.

903
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: You can't deny it. Everyone saw you do it.

904
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: You cannot.

905
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: She can't deny it.

906
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: What's inside Lordie, not today, baby.

907
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: We need to like slowly push her out of our

908
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: lives here.

909
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, what what's your plan? What's your what's

910
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: your approach for a Well, you.

911
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: Try and have a conversation and then if it keeps

912
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: not working, then you say, you know, like let's try

913
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: and help you find a place to live.

914
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: Yep. Hey, we've told we've talked to you multiple times.

915
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: We've we've we've asked, we've shown you why it hurts us,

916
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: We've asked, you know, for these things to change. After

917
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: all of these chances, you still haven't done it. We

918
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: are unfortunately going to need our own space.

919
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's not even saying like I'm never going

920
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: to talk to you again. That's just saying it's not

921
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 5: living together isn't work.

922
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good step because, like you said,

923
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean, oh, I'm not going to contact with

924
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: you or anything, but it gives Ope and their partner

925
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: their own space back. It clearly shows them up. Her

926
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: in law like, oh, yeah, I am. They're punishing me, like, yeah,

927
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: she's actually having a repercussion for her negative actions, and

928
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: hopefully that potentially could wake her up. Maybe hopefully, maybe

929
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: maybe it's a great it's a great action to take. Yeah. Think,

930
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: But Opie says, I told her that it wasn't gonna

931
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: happen again, and that I wasn't comfortable with her going

932
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: with as to family functions anymore because her actions were appalling.

933
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: She continued living with us and nothing ever got better.

934
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Should have listened to Sophia's advice.

935
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: Why why did you let her continue living there?

936
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Sophia's got the answers for her. You have the answers,

937
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: just take them, take them, take them. She started acting

938
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: strange towards me and would be extra attentive to my husband.

939
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: Karen was competing with me for his attention. It was

940
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: always about what she did for him or what she

941
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: had cleaned that day, et cetera, et cetera. We talked

942
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: to her about the way she was acting, and she

943
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: acted like she had no idea what we were talking about.

944
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: She began secluding herself to her room and watching for

945
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: my husband to come home, and she would come out

946
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: of a room, or she'd come out while I was

947
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: at work. We told her that she was acting strangely

948
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: and that she needed to seek counseling to deal with

949
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: her past drama and figure out what was going on

950
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: with her mental health. If she wanted to continue living

951
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: with us. Here we go, We're hey, like, get some counseling.

952
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: You need to do this to continue living with us.

953
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: We're making some but.

954
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: None of these will actually work if you don't follow

955
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 4: through on your.

956
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: You know that's true. We got to bring down that hammer.

957
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah boom. We then started the home buying process.

958
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: Oo, so you can leave your mom in your apartment

959
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 4: and then move to your new home.

960
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Ditcher, ditch that mama, get her out of your life.

961
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: My husband and I were going out looking at homes

962
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: trying to find our forever home, and we did not

963
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: include her in the process much. She only ever went

964
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: to one showing with us because we purely needed the

965
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: time away from Karen. But you brought her with you.

966
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I am confused. We found our home,

967
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: we got through the process, and in December of twenty

968
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: twenty four, we moved into a home that we and

969
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: sure was big enough for the three of us. Why

970
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: why for the three of us? Okay, as we fully

971
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: intended on helping her and her staying with us indefinitely

972
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: did Wow?

973
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: At this point, it's like, it's a little bit your fault.

974
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: You're doing this to yourself.

975
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you already know what she's like.

976
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: You already know that you don't like living with her

977
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: and that she's not capable of standing an era of

978
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 5: owning up to anything that she does.

979
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: And you had a clean break right here.

980
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: Yep.

981
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 5: You could have been like, hey, we're moving into a

982
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 5: new place. We'd love to help you find your own apartment, and.

983
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: You went back on your own promise of if you

984
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: don't get counseling, then you can't live with them. Where

985
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: where did that go?

986
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: Where did that go? And what is your husband doing

987
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 4: in any of this? Why is he not talking to

988
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: his mom.

989
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: We've only heard OK talk about her talking to the mom.

990
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Exactly where are you at? Husband?

991
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: Where are where art thou?

992
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: Where are you? This is your mom, your freaking mom.

993
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Your mom your responsibility.

994
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: That's what they say. With great mom come great responsibility.

995
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: That is so true. Or with bad mom, terrible mom.

996
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: You need to just talk to her. Bro Yeah, you

997
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: need to just talk to her. Oh boy. So up

998
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: until this point she had not contributed financially to anything.

999
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Just keeps getting better. We still covered all of the

1000
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: bills that rent, the mortgage, et cetera. We owed her nothing.

1001
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: So he moved into our home and while moving, Karen

1002
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: would grab husband's things and make sure she told everyone

1003
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: that she grabbed his items to make sure they made

1004
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: it to the new house. Fine, less for me to move.

1005
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: I hate packing and all of that. Once we moved

1006
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: into our home, Karen continued her strange behavior. She begins

1007
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: including herself in her bedroom and would watch out of

1008
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: the window for my husband to return home from work

1009
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: and come out as soon as he opened the door.

1010
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: This is becoming like psychopathic behavior. Where you can see

1011
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: the blinds.

1012
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: She's like, where is he? She's got those little uh

1013
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: she's got binoculars.

1014
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that peaked through the blinds.

1015
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah's and you just see the binoculars through the blinds just.

1016
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: A little bit. She's got night vision goggles today, just

1017
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: like where I can't see anything, and like those are

1018
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: not vision got golds And she's like, I need my son.

1019
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: Where did he go?

1020
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 4: She's got a tracker on him?

1021
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: Dude, this is this is not good. Okay. Knew she

1022
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: would tell him about her day, what she had done,

1023
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: what she planned to do. At this time, I had

1024
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: taken a week off work for Christmas, so I had

1025
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: to have been home all day with not a word

1026
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: from her to me. We held Christmas at our home

1027
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: with all of my family, and Karen was acting strange.

1028
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: As per usual. She spent most of the day cleaning

1029
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: the porch, and then when everyone was done opening gifts,

1030
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: she went and got the gifts that she had purchased

1031
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: for everyone. She handed out to the gifts to my

1032
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: family and to my husband, all wrapped, and then she

1033
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: brought me the gifts she purchased for me, unwrapped.

1034
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 5: Wait, she just gave you gifts, but they weren't wrapped.

1035
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 5: So she put like effort into everyone else's gifts exactly.

1036
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: She She was just like, yeah, here you go, Yes,

1037
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: all these like wrapped, beautifully wrapped boxes. So here you go,

1038
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: here you go, cousin, here you go, granddaughter, here you go, son,

1039
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: and here's a here's a Walmart bag for you.

1040
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 4: She's like, I put yours in a Trader dose back.

1041
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're welcome. Her husband needs to talk to his mom.

1042
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: Yes, Why hasn't there been any car I mean, at

1043
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 5: least as far as we know, there haven't been any

1044
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 5: conversations between.

1045
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: Mother and son.

1046
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Hope he hasn't mentioned it. We're calling you out, husband.

1047
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: You think you came in with it? Huh not today

1048
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: on my watch? Not on my watch. And guess what,

1049
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't even have a watch.

1050
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: Nor do I.

1051
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: Uh So. Now I did honestly care at that point,

1052
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: but it was clearly a dig at me. For some reason,

1053
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: her seclusion continued and she refused to speak to me,

1054
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: but would come out when my husband came home. She

1055
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: did not clean up after herself or her cats. One

1056
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: of her cats continuously peeded on one of the steps

1057
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: leading into the basement. She never offered to clean it.

1058
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: I would have to do it at six am when

1059
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: I woke up to find it or after working all

1060
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 1: day A victor, A victor dude. Just at this point

1061
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: fall I blame you and yeah, like you had the

1062
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: perfect out and you said like you said, we would

1063
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: be keeping her with us in definitely definitely.

1064
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 4: You even you took back the boundary that you had made.

1065
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: It just it just disappeared. We've never even she's never

1066
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: even been like, yeah, you know I made that, and

1067
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: I know I kind of like we kind of didn't

1068
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: stick to it. We're not even.

1069
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: Forgot about it.

1070
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: I just forgot.

1071
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: She's like what I had an Baudrey, I don't remember that.

1072
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: Who's a boundairy boundary? I'm allergic to dairy, don't.

1073
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: I don't know any boundaries.

1074
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Finally we talked. Finally, let's

1075
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: see what we get. This has gotten store. Hey, it's

1076
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: John here. We're gonna get back to the stories. Put

1077
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: a quick three minute ad break from our sponsors, like

1078
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: keep the show going. Your hopes right now on a

1079
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: scaleful on the floor, we're at a negative two. Yeah, expectations.

1080
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 4: We were beneath the floor, if you will, I'm glad.

1081
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, the floor that's been peed on by the catch.

1082
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've cut a hole on the floor and

1083
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 5: then put a little fireman's.

1084
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: Pull right to go straight to theop, sliding straight down.

1085
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm at least glad that we're finally having the conversation.

1086
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: I'm curious what's gonna come out of it. We talked

1087
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: were he asked her to move back to her house

1088
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: because not only was she being disrespectful to his wife,

1089
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: but she was making him uncomfortable. Her statement was, do

1090
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: you think it's hard for a person to let someone go?

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00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: She was crying, and she was acting like he was

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00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: breaking up with her. She moved home a week later.

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00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: So she's finally out. I'll raise my expectations off the ground.

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00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: Where are we are? We to ground level?

1095
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: Now, we're at least a ground level.

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00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: We're at a bare min on the ground level. We've

1097
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: slid up the fire. The fire fire.

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00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 4: Person climbed it very slowly.

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00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Here we go. She moved out a week later, after

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00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: several reminders that she needed to move home, that she

1101
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: was not going to be living here any longer. When

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00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: she finally moved out, we felt guilty, but relieved. Don't

1103
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: feel guilty. Don't feel guilty throughout the time she's been gone,

1104
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: nothing has changed.

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00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: Nothing's changed, She's change, She's coming show is she still

1106
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 5: like bring her dog over to pee on your floes

1107
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: every morning? Like things have changed a little bit with

1108
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 5: the cat, Yeah, the cat and then she and then runway,

1109
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 5: where did this pea come from?

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00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: Me?

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00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: I've been home like you told me to.

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00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't me. Throughout the time she's been gone, nothing

1113
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: has changed. She's spoken only to me twice, once to

1114
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: help her set up her WiFi and cable equipment, and

1115
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: another time because she needed help filing her taxes. She

1116
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: is still acting strange towards my grandfather. My grandfather had

1117
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: a simple eye surgery. She asked my grandmother how he

1118
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: was doing. The following day, my grandmother had a major surgery.

1119
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: Not a word from Karen. A few weeks later, my

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00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: grandfather had the same surgery on his other eye. She

1121
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: immediately asked how he was doing. Oh, right, right, right?

1122
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: This is the grandpa that she uh she had.

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00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: Oh, She's like, how's your eye doing?

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00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: Oh? How you doing it?

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00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: Do you need any help with your eye?

1126
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: Is there something you would like to see to make

1127
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: you feel better with grandpa? Oh? God, my grandmother called

1128
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: me and said that she was done. She was blocking

1129
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 1: her from everything and said that Karen was no longer

1130
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: welcome there, and I understood. I then learned that she

1131
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: had been trash talking me and saying I was unkind

1132
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: and hurt her with the way I treated her. That

1133
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: was it for me. I blocked her on social media

1134
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: and that was that. So we It's basically it seems

1135
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: AKA were going no contact with mother in law Caaren Good. Finally,

1136
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: I did not block her phone number on the off

1137
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: chance there was an emergency and she couldn't contact my husband. Okay,

1138
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: I am not cruel and cold hearted, but a day

1139
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: ago I got a text message asking me if I

1140
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: was home. I told her that I had been home

1141
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: all day as I'm working remote right now, but that

1142
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: we were getting ready to go out with a couple

1143
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: of friends. Her reply, ah, has your husband? Have your

1144
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: husband call me before you go anywhere? It felt demanding.

1145
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: Why are you the go between?

1146
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?

1147
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 4: Why can't she just text her own son?

1148
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you're Oh, you birthed them, presumably you have

1149
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: his number. Come on, there's no way you have Op's

1150
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: number and his wife's your son's. There's literally no way.

1151
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: So I responded and told her that if he was

1152
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,959
Speaker 1: not answering her, that was his choice, and I didn't

1153
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: want to be in the middle of that. That I

1154
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: was all set with being accused of treating her a

1155
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: certain way that hurts her, by the way. You know

1156
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: it hurts me, Sophia. What you know, what oz is

1157
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: a pain deep down in my heart that will never

1158
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: be fixed. Tell me is that people don't take the

1159
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: time to go to Spotify, Apple podcast with the iHeart

1160
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: podcast app and search okay, story time?

1161
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: Why would they do that?

1162
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: You know what's on the other end of that, Sofia?

1163
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: What two thousand episodes of your favorite show with your

1164
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: favorite people?

1165
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: Oh man?

1166
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: Why would they not do that, Sofia?

1167
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: Why why would you deprive yourself?

1168
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm angry, But you can solve that by doing what

1169
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: I just told you. Easy, so check it out Zeep's.

1170
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 1: But Sofia, we have a little bit of this story left,

1171
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: and I have to ask you, ask what are you?

1172
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: What are you?

1173
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: What's going through your head? Right now?

1174
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: Man?

1175
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: Oh man?

1176
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 5: Well, one, we could have gotten rid of this lady

1177
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: way sooner, but now that we have, you just got

1178
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 5: to stick to your you know, stick to your pew pews.

1179
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 1: Yes, they stay in the business.

1180
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 5: You don't let her walkle over your boundaries that you

1181
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 5: just set and make sure that your husband is actually

1182
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 5: pulling his weight.

1183
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: That's the one thing we haven't dressed at all.

1184
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 5: You can't be the go between for your mother in

1185
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 5: law every time just because he's afraid of talk.

1186
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: Yep, I guess he did finally have this Jiretto for

1187
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: says mother in law needs to be laid and Riley

1188
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: is heavily highlighting that and telling me to read. Yes, maybe,

1189
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: just maybe, just maybe, maybe we need to get her

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00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: a gilf.

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00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 5: Her own Yeah, her own grandfather, a grandpa, She would

1192
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 5: like a friend. Yeah, as they as they say in

1193
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 5: the that's.

1194
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: What they say in the biz. But let's get into

1195
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: the finale of this particular I explained there was a

1196
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: reason I had removed her from my social media and

1197
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: cut contact, and that whenever she needed to talk to

1198
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: him about was between the two of them. I said

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00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: I was not going to be her messenger. She replied,

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00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, to which I replied, you're not, though, which

1201
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: is why I removed myself from the situation. I did

1202
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: nothing but try to help you and was treated poorly.

1203
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: In return, you burned the bridge and that was your choice.

1204
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: My standing up for you or talking to him for

1205
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: you isn't an option anymore. And then I was trash talked. Afterwards,

1206
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: I got no reply. This this is the energy.

1207
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the energy we should have had ages.

1208
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he go tell her, in simple, clear terms, what

1209
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: what she did?

1210
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 3: What for?

1211
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 4: We don't need to be like she shows up in

1212
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: her little white short shorts.

1213
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 5: You don't have to go, oh it's nice. Tell her say, hey,

1214
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: that doesn't work for the wedding. That's not it, that's

1215
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: not proper wedding attire. No, you can't live in my house.

1216
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: Riley is highlighting some crazy comments over easy stuff. Oh goodness,

1217
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: And I knew he was going to click that one too.

1218
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: I knew he was going to click that one. So

1219
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: she never got the counseling we told her she needed,

1220
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: and she only contacts me when she needs something. So

1221
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: am I the a hole? Let's let's close it out

1222
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 1: by answering the question, Sophia, is the a whole? No? No, actually,

1223
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: you know what south a hole might be? An a

1224
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: hole to this helf, South a hole?

1225
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: Check.

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00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 5: You gotta get your grandma, I mean your mom, mom

1227
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 5: in law, your mem law.

1228
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, get her out of here, get her out of here.

1229
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: But so, ladies and gentlemen, that is unfortunately the end.

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00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: But if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 4: We love you and see you tomorrow.