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Speaker 2: from the center of my soul, thank each and every

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Speaker 2: person that is really really a fan of me, right,

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Speaker 2: not just a passive listener of It's Up There podcast,

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Speaker 2: Like the people that's really like yo really rock with Loon,

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Speaker 2: Like some of my Patreon people. They let me know man,

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Speaker 2: like hey, I really rock with you, brother. I rock

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Speaker 2: with a lot of people, and you're like the number

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Speaker 2: one person that I come to right, And so before

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Speaker 2: we get into the Young Thud thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, I always talk business with y'all.

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Speaker 2: I talk content, I talk position, I talk market value,

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Speaker 2: so far as me, sometimes I sit back and I'm like, Loan,

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Speaker 2: do you need to hire some people like co hosts?

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Speaker 2: Do I want to do like a different show and

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Speaker 2: have some co hosts and see how that plays out.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the fans really enjoyed me in Umar's

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Speaker 2: back and forth, right, I can probably arrange for me

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Speaker 2: and Umar to have a show, monthly show, a weekly show,

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Speaker 2: you know, episodic season. You know, I would definitely want

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Speaker 2: Like when you see me next to Umar, my job

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Speaker 2: some of the good conversations that you know, gives the

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Speaker 2: culture information what I noticed about the Internet, And we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about some of the Internet's perception how

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Speaker 2: they play in the things today, right, because we see

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Speaker 2: what Young Thug being released some kind of way little

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Speaker 1: All y'all in the internet land.

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Speaker 2: And social media world will get to all of that

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Speaker 2: in a minute and have a discourse about that.

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Speaker 1: But the internet is a weird place, right. So with

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Speaker 1: the Umar.

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Speaker 2: Second Annual It's up the podcast live event featuring Doctor

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Speaker 2: Umar at TSU Homecoming weekend, you will see where you know.

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Speaker 2: So for my fans and you know me, I'm not

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Speaker 2: somebody that make excuses people that listen to me. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm always like, get it done, regardless, get it done.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm going through fights behind the scenes all the time,

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Speaker 2: trying to figure things out, asking for information to intail, right,

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Speaker 2: because my computer is computing and I'm putting together things.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you feed the computer data and then

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Speaker 2: But with the Doctor Umar interview, right, people don't even

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Speaker 2: Instead of canceling the event on all the people that

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, we had a great conversation.

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Speaker 2: But I just want my real fans to have that

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Speaker 2: second annual. He talks about old Brook Kamala Harris. Wait

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Speaker 2: and you really will enjoy that one of the best

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Speaker 2: what everybody is really here for. We're here to talk

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Speaker 2: about Young Thug being released. For those unaware, Young Thug

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Speaker 2: has been in a trial facing racordeer and charges leader

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Speaker 2: King Pinn of what prosecutors in the Folden County District

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Speaker 2: as a record label and it's wiseal. They've been able

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Speaker 2: they was actually using these things to try to nail

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Speaker 2: this individual to the cross. Today we get into a

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Speaker 2: lot of different things. Young Thug took a plea deal.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna watch that plea be took. We're gonna get

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Speaker 2: Is it not a setup? How does Young Thug move

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Speaker 2: in Quart a year, two years in and say, look,

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Speaker 2: we found it extremely hard for him not to do

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Speaker 2: I want you guys to stay tuned as we get

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Speaker 1: Be right back, Welcome back everyone.

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Speaker 2: Today we're gonna dive into one of the more historical

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Speaker 2: three in hip hop. We're gonna get into Young Thugs

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Speaker 2: please deal his release conditions with peeling back the layers

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Speaker 2: on everything you need to know about this case, from

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Speaker 2: the strict probation terms to the controversy surrounding his restrictions

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Speaker 1: Grab a seed, Stay tuned. We're gonna break this down before.

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Speaker 2: We watch this video of the proceedings this evening as

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Speaker 2: it pertains the young Thug taking his plea deal.

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Speaker 1: I want to take it back a few days.

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Speaker 2: Slime Life Shorty got understand said a few things put

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Speaker 2: the state in a position broke the case down even

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Speaker 2: a reason that everyone dresses out in court, and you

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Speaker 1: Weigh in that state.

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Speaker 2: And so you see everybody dressed out. And so when

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Speaker 2: I seen them have to stop the case with Slime

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Speaker 2: Life Shorty, I knew that the case was breaking down.

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Speaker 2: Some of my insiders hit me and they say, Yo,

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Speaker 2: the deal that she came with, they're not taking it.

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Speaker 2: It was a scenario where they were uncomfortable with some

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Speaker 2: looks like there's not gonna be a deal for Young Thug.

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Speaker 2: And then as we see subsequently after that, he did

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Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Now, there were people arguing with me that the plea

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Speaker 2: But I was saying, why don't think those plea deals

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Speaker 2: to offer please. This only happens when something when there's

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to thug with a plea as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just been a very slippery trial. But

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Speaker 2: thug is out. Let's take a look at the plea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this plea was jam packed with stuff and

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Speaker 2: You're gonna watch Brian Still walk us through the entire plea.

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Speaker 2: offer of forty five years. And so what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Pay attention. Let's watch the first clip rollo tape.

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Speaker 3: So no one can guarantee anything to do with parole

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Speaker 3: or the Department of Corrections or the Board of Pardons

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Speaker 3: and Paroles. And that if you are sentenced to confinement

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Speaker 3: and the Georgia Department of Corrections, no one can guarantee parole.

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Speaker 1: Parole you honor.

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Speaker 3: May I allow mister Williams time to finish signing the indictment?

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Speaker 3: You're honored with permission, May I approach with a member

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Speaker 3: of mister William's team. You may thank you. Mister Williams.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that this is a non negotiated plea

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Speaker 3: The state is making a recommendation of sentencing to the court,

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Speaker 3: notwithstanding the fact that this is a blind plea. You

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Speaker 3: understand that mister Williams okay, and mister Williams. Were you

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Speaker 3: aware of the state's previous offer that was turned down

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Speaker 5: Yes, all right, and your honor.

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Speaker 3: At this time, the state is making a recommendation of

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Speaker 3: forty five years, with twenty five to serve in custody,

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Speaker 3: followed by twenty onation subject to the special requirements of

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Speaker 3: sixteen fifteen four of the Gang Statute.

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Speaker 6: All right, and do you want to break down for

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Speaker 6: me what your recommended sentence on each count.

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Speaker 3: Is, Yes, joh honor. The state is recommending on count

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Speaker 3: one five years to serve, Count fifty six twenty years

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Speaker 3: Count fifty eight ten years of probation, to serve concurrently

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Speaker 3: ten years of probation consecutive to Count sixty one. All right,

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Speaker 3: thank you, mister Williams. Did you discuss the state's previous

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Speaker 6: Yes, okay, all right, and so we're all clear that

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Speaker 6: we're talking about the same thing. Can you put what

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Speaker 6: the state's previous offer was on the record for me, please.

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Speaker 3: I can, your honor, thank you. The state's previous offer

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Speaker 3: was a total of forty three years, with twenty to serve.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, twenty years five years to serve on Count

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Speaker 3: fifty six commuted to time served, followed by fifteen years

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Speaker 3: to Count fifty six. Count fifty nine was three years

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Speaker 3: counts fifty six and fifty eight. Count sixty was five

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Speaker 3: to counts fifty six, fifty eight, and fifty nine. Count

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Speaker 3: sixty one was five years to serve in the Georgia

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Speaker 7: In Rutherford County, prices are rising and traffic's getting worse.

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Speaker 5: And Mike Sparks is part of the problem.

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Speaker 7: Mike helped pass a law of charge tolls on I

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Speaker 1: We can't afford more.

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Speaker 7: Mike Sparks, show your daughter how much you love her

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Speaker 7: With this beautiful gift. It says to my daughter, never

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Speaker 7: Whenever you feel overwhelmed. Remember was that.

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Speaker 6: The entirety of what the sentence was no Amanda very

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Speaker 6: special conditions. So y'all were nol pross what one in

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Speaker 3: Yes, as part of the recommended sentence. In exchange for

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Speaker 3: pross count one, Count fifty seven and count sixty two.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and then all of that consecutive to the probation

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Speaker 6: that was going to be what we call backloaded, and

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Speaker 6: what were all what we're all proposing with regard to that,

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Speaker 6: since it was the total of the probated.

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Speaker 3: Sentence, the total sentence was forty three years to serve,

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Speaker 3: except that if defendant had complied with the special conditions

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Speaker 1: It would have been yes, here, I'm mister Williams, a.

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Speaker 6: Special sentence and what y'all had, and I know you

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Speaker 6: had been. With of course, a bunch of special conditions,

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Speaker 3: I don't right, defendant did not want to agree to

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Speaker 6: All right, except basically you're understanding too, missus.

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Speaker 8: It would have been yes here, I'm mister Williams, would

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Speaker 8: have been released today for fifteen years on probation. If

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Speaker 8: to go to custody. If he did not, he'd faced

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Speaker 8: probation revocation as well as twenty three years, as court said,

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Speaker 8: backloaded in the Georgia prison system. But we could not

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Speaker 8: come to terms on all the conditions that the district

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank.

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Speaker 8: You, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Ms Love okay, and mister Williams, were you aware of

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Speaker 3: your attorneys, yes, all right, the previews the previous offer.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that the court can impose any sentence

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Speaker 3: charge in this indictment. Do you understand that, mister William Yes.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that if you enter into a non

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Speaker 3: your plea once the sentence has been announced.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that this is a guilty plea which

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Speaker 3: is permanently recorded on your criminal history.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that this plea may be used to

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that if you are currently on probation

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Speaker 5: I'm not on probation.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so you're not if you were on probation. But

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Speaker 6: if you're not, then it doesn't matter, all right.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that if you are placed on probation

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Speaker 3: of the sentence the court imposes.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that you are not allowed to possess

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Speaker 3: understand that if you are not a United States citizen,

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that neither the court, your attorney, nor

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Speaker 3: and the Department of Corrections or Board of Pardons and Paroles,

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Speaker 3: And that no one can guarantee parole no matter what

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Speaker 3: anyone has told you. Yes, do you understand that there

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Speaker 2: And I guess that's why I want to stop and

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Speaker 2: Ken the Faiz, come pick them up now. So the

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Speaker 2: I think makes me ask that question, like, Ken the

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Speaker 2: they took. You're going to hear them explain that in

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Speaker 2: just a second. But I think the overarching point we

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Speaker 2: so these are some of the adverse reactions. And we're

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Speaker 2: going to get into this after Thug speaks. But you

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Speaker 2: got a scenario where all right, you got out of this,

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Speaker 2: but we set you up for damn near failure.

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Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of the internet is speaking about.

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Speaker 2: It's like, hey, these stipulations, it's gonna be hard for you.

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Speaker 2: They damned the controlling you. But if you've been in

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Speaker 2: But in two years, ain't no trouble. We'll go back

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Speaker 3: Kile, for example, you're guilty, please may effect the right

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that by pleading guilty to a felony,

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Speaker 3: if you use, receive, possess, or transport a firearm, or

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Do you understand that you weigh any and all defenses,

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Speaker 3: Given that those negotiations have broken down. We are asking

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Speaker 3: And that is all that we have unless the court

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well, given that mister Williams is not charged with

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Speaker 3: I check on that, your honor, with respect to count one,

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Speaker 3: as a co conspirator, mister Williams is responsible for all

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Speaker 3: The over act of the murder of Didavan Thomas is

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Speaker 6: And this trial is not complete, and so y'all have

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Speaker 6: not yet proven that. Not to mention that you dismissed

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Speaker 3: Not for that case, your honor, that was a different

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Speaker 3: That was mister Dreams. Okay, we have not dismissed any all.

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Speaker 6: Right, Well, if there is a conviction on the rico

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Speaker 2: And so the victim impact statement part of this is

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Speaker 1: That in consideration if they would allow it.

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Speaker 2: And let me say this or Repeter Nut, I send

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Speaker 1: And try to make things.

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Speaker 2: Digestible for the next wave, the next level and people

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Speaker 2: they're just trying to make it throughout their day. And

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Speaker 2: I think oftentimes you'll see us cover young Thug and

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Speaker 2: I'm being honest, it probably has been one side. You know,

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of the media has covered this, in

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Speaker 2: But it shines light on Thug that wasn't shined on

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Speaker 2: Lucci and his scenario as well as Nutt, and I

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Speaker 2: that enough like YO salute to Lucci, YO salute Rip

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Speaker 2: this together. We go through things, we digest those things,

440
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: we examine those things, and we try to explain those things.

441
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: But we all are one heartbeat and so hopefully one day,

442
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: you know, those dudes cross path and they do what

443
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: they need to do. But the victim impact statement was

444
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: very deep because again I guess the judge is saying, listen,

445
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: if this murder meant that much to you, then maybe

446
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: you should have kept the case going.

447
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Why are you taking a plea?

448
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: I want you guys to understand the plea can't come

449
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: from Brian Steele, can't come from the people that's charged, right,

450
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: And even if it does come from the people that's charged,

451
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: ultimately the prosecutors gotta accept it. And there are millions

452
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: of dollars in why would they let the king pin

453
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: go and then try to slide a victim impact statement

454
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: in there on the murder that he hasn't been convicted of.

455
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: It shows you more the games that's being played. I

456
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: just want people to really really understand that.

457
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: A man.

458
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 8: Who has who said nothing except I don't recall, and

459
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 8: then they put in his prior recorded jail calls that

460
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 8: man was taken. His name is mister Bean b An.

461
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 8: He was taken to Grady Hospital and he was spoken

462
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 8: with by detective. The state vehemently accused me of lying

463
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 8: to the jury that the man never went mister Bean

464
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 8: was never taken to Grady Hospital and that somehow I

465
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 8: planted on him to say something on a recording where

466
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 8: he said The reason I implicated Jeffrey Williams is because

467
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 8: the police told me that it would be easier for me.

468
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 8: Then I had to go through the CAD reports and

469
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 8: show that mister Bean was in fact taking to Grady

470
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 8: Hospital and mister Bean on recording told Detective Quinn, who

471
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 8: of course told the truth. Yes, when I spoke to

472
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 8: the detective previously, I did lie. Then what the state

473
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 8: doesn't tell the jury is that there's another man in

474
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 8: the car. He is shot at.

475
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: The scene, he's arrested. He played guilty.

476
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 8: His name is Fred Prethrow, pr e THO, and mister

477
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 8: Prethrow is in the Georgia State prison system, easy to find.

478
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 8: Mister Prethrow was in Grady Hospital also unfortunately suffering from

479
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 8: a gunshot wound, and you can hear the medical equipment

480
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 8: behind him. And Detective Williams came in and was recording

481
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 8: the whole conversation and said, how many people in the car,

482
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 8: and mister Prethrow names the people. Adrian Bean, who's a gentleman,

483
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 8: just said himself, and Walter Murphy, are you sure they

484
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 8: were in the fourth person in the car? No, the

485
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 8: three of us. The state doesn't call that person. The

486
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 8: state does call Detective Williams. So I wanted to ask

487
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 8: and inquire in that the state to obstruct if that's obstruction,

488
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 8: asked the predecessor court to prohibit me from getting into

489
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 8: the fact of any conversation that would have impeached another witness.

490
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: It's fine.

491
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 8: Fred Prethrow's on my witness list as well as the detective,

492
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 8: and I have the recordings. In addition to that, Walter

493
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 8: Murphy gave a statement while in the hospital, and his

494
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 8: statement is very interesting. It's two different police reports signed

495
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 8: the same same date which is September eleventh of two

496
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 8: thousand and thirteen, and on the first seven lines of

497
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 8: the police report they're identical. Then all of a sudden,

498
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 8: when it gets to on the right hand police report,

499
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 8: it says mister Murphy stated that there were three people.

500
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 8: I believe I have to go back in the vehicle.

501
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 8: On the other police report, it states mister Murphy stayed

502
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 8: there were four people. There's no reason that they should

503
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 8: be different. They both signed the same. The state doesn't

504
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 8: call that officer at all. I tried to ask mister

505
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 8: Murphy about it. The state objects and the predecessor judge

506
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 8: sustained the objection. Mister Williams was not involved in the

507
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 8: mister Dodson, Miss Bennett, that was Mother's Day, May twelfth,

508
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 8: twenty thirteen, she reports allegedly an armed robbery. The detective

509
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 8: who testified here and investigated stated he never took out

510
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 8: a rest.

511
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: Warrant for mister Williams.

512
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 8: Please report Miss Bennett is not truthful. That is the

513
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 8: case that the state is talking about the state. Then

514
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 8: there was brady evidence that they don't turn over, and

515
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 8: we find out about it in court after they arrest

516
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 8: Miss Bennett. Because they say she's not cooperating, and it

517
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 8: comes out that she told the prosecution over and over

518
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 8: again that this did not happen the way that she

519
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 8: reported it, and she doesn't remember as to Donovan Thomas

520
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 8: and mister Williams has nothing but empathy, sympathy and sorrow.

521
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: They were friends. It is a lie.

522
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 8: What the prosecution is put before this jury is a lie.

523
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 8: What happened here is the prosecution comes up with a

524
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 8: theory because they need a motive. They think, I know,

525
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 8: you don't need a motive in reality to prove a

526
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 8: murder case or any other case, but they wanted a motive,

527
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 8: so they made it where mister Williams and a gentleman

528
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 8: named rich Homi Kwan.

529
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: His name is mister Lamar.

530
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 8: He's a performer, and mister Williams and mister Lamar were close.

531
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 8: There are public documents recordings mister Lamar being interviewed almost

532
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 8: every year, and then he talks about his time with

533
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 8: his fan or a group called Rich Gang, and he

534
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 8: says every year up to this past year, he got forbid.

535
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 8: We can't call him his witness, how close he is

536
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 8: to mister Williams.

537
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: Story Time.

538
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: Brian Steele and me spoke about the interview I had

539
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: with Rich Homi Kwan, RP Rich Homi Kwan and how

540
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: he expressed his sentiments to Thug. And so you hear

541
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: him referencing that I know for one hundred percent fact

542
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: that he's speaking about that interview I had with rich

543
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: Homiy Kwan because me and Brian Steele spoke about that.

544
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: I was always interested in how the state was gonna

545
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: make that case that Thug and Rich Homi Kuan had issue.

546
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: And so what you're looking at is Brian Steele he

547
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: about to throw young Thug is throwing itself on the

548
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: mercy of the court. See, right before this, Thug had

549
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: to take a minute to think about it. Man, do

550
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: I really want to do this? You know what I'm saying, like,

551
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: do I want to do this? Because they can give

552
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: me thirty years and once you put a guilty down,

553
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: you can't take that back. And by Brass still saying, Yo,

554
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: we're winning the case. We're up right now. You got

555
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: three more months a hundred, you got about one hundred

556
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: days left, one hundred and fifteen hundred twenty days left,

557
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: and we're winning. But you don't know how things are

558
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: gonna go and they're talking about letting him go, but

559
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: with fifteen years pay attention right.

560
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 8: To make it that mister Williams and Rich Homi Kwan

561
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 8: are enemies because Rich Homi Kwan will not sign with

562
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 8: a record label that has nothing to do with mister Williams.

563
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 8: Mister Williams doesn't sign that record label. That record label

564
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 8: is owned by a gentleman named Brian Williams also goes

565
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 8: by Birdman. Wildly successful. He started Drake's career, he started

566
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 8: mister Drayne Carter, performer known as Lil Wayne's career. He

567
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 8: started Nicki Minaja's career. Just fabulous, a powerful person, well

568
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 8: respected in the industry. But the state wants it to

569
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 8: be that Donovan Thomas interceded and would not let Rich

570
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 8: hol mc kuan sign to mister Brian Birdman Williams. And

571
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 8: that is the reason that Jeffrey Williams had a feud

572
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 8: and Donovan Thomas, Your honor, what the evidence would really

573
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 8: show if we kept going to the trial, and I

574
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 8: could tell you that mister Adams and I never thought

575
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 8: we'd be in front of this honorable court.

576
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: We always thought it would go all the way through trial.

577
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 8: Was the state is saying that rich hol mc quan

578
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 8: Jeffrey Williams don't speak since the fall and they have

579
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 8: a bad relationship. The fall of twenty fourteen. We would

580
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 8: have shown, and we served on the State December fifteenth,

581
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 8: two thousand fourteen, Jeffrey Williams in a private plane with

582
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 8: mister Lamar or rich Homi Kuan and they are high

583
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 8: and laughing with each other. That is on audio video.

584
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 8: There's a man who the State hasn't called yet, mister

585
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 8: Martinez Arnold, also known as Duke. It's on the State's

586
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 8: witness so he's represented by the Honorable Ashley Merchant. He's

587
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 8: on that plane as well. He would have identified the

588
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 8: item and he would have testified that mister Williams and

589
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 8: mister Lamar were very close in December twenty fourteen. Then

590
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 8: on December twenty ninth of twenty fourteen, mister Williams, mister

591
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 8: richil My Kuan, mister Arnold others were at Brian Williams

592
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 8: home in Miami, Florida. There is a posting by mister Lamar,

593
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 8: Richrol mc quan and a picture of mister Arnold and

594
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 8: mister Lamar, and they said Miss laur says this is

595
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 8: my number one man, Duke, or something to that effect.

596
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 8: We would have put that into evidence. In addition to that,

597
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 8: your honor. On December eighth, two days before mister Thomas,

598
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 8: god Forbid was Killedlliams is with mister Thomas as well

599
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 8: as mister Sledge and Brian Williams and Brian Williams tour

600
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 8: bus outside of a fabulous entertainer artist, mister Clifford Harris

601
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 8: TI's studio and at that time they were very close.

602
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 8: But you also have the detective with the Gang Unit,

603
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 8: Detective Underwood. I asked her within the last two weeks

604
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 8: or three weeks, did you do any and she was

605
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 8: on the gang the entire time, including today, and she

606
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 8: I asked her, do you have any evidence about mister

607
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 8: Williams and mister Thomas being close friends? And she said yes,

608
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 8: of course I knew that. I said, how about in

609
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 8: January of two thy and fifteen, close to the time

610
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 8: of mister Thomas's jeff She said, yes, they were close friends.

611
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 8: Mister Michael Sprinkle, he's a Deputy District Attorney in the

612
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 8: Fulton County DA's office. He has a recording with mister Treadwell.

613
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 8: You've heard the name oj Bentley, and in that they're

614
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 8: going through the evidence and mister Treadwell it's important because

615
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 8: he has a child too. Actually with mister Thomas's sisters.

616
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: He's family.

617
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 8: And mister Sprinkle states, this is twenty eighteen, is after

618
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 8: the rental car, this is after all of the interviews

619
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 8: of mister Copeland, this is after the interviews of mister Zachary.

620
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 8: Mister Sprinkle's in some of those interviews with mister Zachary,

621
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 8: Mister Sprinkle on tape on recording states, I do not

622
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 8: know why anybody thinks Jeffrey Williams is involved in this.

623
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 8: He and Donovan Thomas were close friends. It makes no

624
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 8: sense to anyone. And mister Williams was never arrested, never

625
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 8: charged even in Yes. In addition to that, your honor,

626
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 8: the state talks about the fact that mister Williams takes

627
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 8: people to my have gone further in Miami and the

628
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 8: security and mister williams lyrics are offensive. Mister Williams has

629
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 8: tens of thousands of recordings on our witness list. We

630
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 8: are bringing in all of his people, his recording artists,

631
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 8: his engineers, his managers, his record label, and an expert

632
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 8: the honorable doctor Eric Nielsen to talk about how mister

633
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 8: Williams creates his music.

634
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: His music is.

635
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 8: Then changed around and merged mister Williams. Most not most,

636
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 8: some of the lyrics you just heard are not even

637
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 8: uttered by mister Williams. The state has no idea when

638
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 8: these lyrics were made. Some of them were made before

639
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 8: the shooting of Donovan Thomas. That the state is saying

640
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 8: this applies that Donovan Thomas with the time, they are

641
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 8: so far afield of where we need to be when

642
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 8: we are trying to take somebody's liberty, your honor, the state.

643
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: Brian still continues to show what he would call contradictions

644
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: that the state had set forth throughout trial and plead

645
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: his case as to why young thug should get a

646
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: favorable sentence, because you got to remember, when you do

647
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 2: this blind plea, it's not necessarily up to the state.

648
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: They recommend They make a recommendation, your lawyer makes a recommendation. Ultimately,

649
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: the judge that has been presiding over the trial considers

650
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: both recommendations and they have to set the actual standard

651
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: and the terms of the probation or the prison sentence.

652
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: And so Brian still went on and on.

653
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to continue to play at all because

654
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: it'll just be dragging us out. And you can find

655
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: that video anywhere online. Got to remember what Brian Still

656
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: has been through with the two. I think this is

657
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: a good time to, you know, give brand and Still

658
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: in all of these guys they're flowers because they've stood strong.

659
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: In particular Brian Still.

660
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: He's been arrested, he's been held in contempt, he's been

661
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: up for hours and hours. He's been at the jail,

662
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: at the courthouse, at the jail house.

663
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 1: He's rolled with thug, the real deal.

664
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: Brian Still along with his along with his protege and

665
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: partner Adam Smith. I think this is Name and his

666
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: protege Keith Adams, because Keith had an opportunity to try

667
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: to continue the case and get his shine, but he

668
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: stepped up and say, you know what, if you're sending

669
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: you sitting Brian Still to jail, I hold the same position,

670
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: So give me a seal ready as well, and we

671
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: will not continue to try.

672
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: Like you. Got to remember them folks stood on business

673
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: forul dude name.

674
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: And I like how Charlemagne said this because it is

675
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: important that you know we have separated ourselves.

676
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: From these actions. But in me does look at Thug

677
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: and say, yo.

678
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: He didn't say a marketing word him on lucha. But

679
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: Thug in particular, they brought his homeboys in there, one

680
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: by one, was testifying and getting out of court and

681
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: saying that they love him. Was going in there and

682
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: testifying on that boy, and then tweeting to the world

683
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: that they love him, helping the people that's trying to

684
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: nail him to the cross, but the entire time saying

685
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: that they appreciate him, they love him.

686
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: They and they stood for him and rolled with him.

687
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: You know, I wonder how he feels right, because you

688
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: gotta remember Thug was Thug was a dude before he

689
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: caught these charges. He kind of understood the Internet and

690
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: trolling and all of that. I believe he looked at

691
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: it now and say, oh, it doesn't go It done

692
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: gone too far.

693
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: I wonder what it.

694
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: Feels like for them to be celebrating your homeboy that

695
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: the state put on the stand to testify against you.

696
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: They guess who gone to jail for nothing?

697
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 2: Monto gone to jail if he ain't had no plea,

698
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: He shouldn't even took no plea. Don't y'all get him mistaken.

699
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: Brad still don't necessarily look at this like a win.

700
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: It's cool he loved thug, so he appreciate that. But

701
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: gotta been to jail and everything. I wanted to whoop

702
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: them about this, them folk trying to lock me up

703
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: about this man, I wanted to beat them, right.

704
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: It felt like they really wanted to go out the way.

705
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: But the deal is the deal.

706
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: I want to respond to the internet, right, because you

707
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: see a lot of conversations on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok

708
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: and these other platforms, and so they're sectors of the

709
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: Internet that they look at the young thug fifteen year

710
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: probationary period like it's unattainable, it's infeasible, it's impractical or unreachable.

711
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: So I want to speak to the setup that people

712
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: think it's there.

713
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 8: Right.

714
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: He has a lot of stipulations.

715
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: He has geographical restrictions, community service association restrictions.

716
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: That's the one.

717
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: I think that it's gonna be easy to slip up

718
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: promotion restrictions. This can lend itself to him not being

719
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: able to rap about what he wants to rap about,

720
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: even under the guise of entertainment. This is what does

721
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: a controlled young thug sound like. They can't say slat. Again,

722
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: I believe in the arenas that the fans are gonna

723
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: if he invokes them, or if the song calls for that,

724
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: they'll feel in the blanks. He got that kind of

725
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: fan base, and by them trying to ban him from

726
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: saying things, when you ban something, you only make it stronger.

727
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: You can't sline, you know what I'm saying. You can't slat.

728
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: You can't sline. So you can let him not rap

729
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: about it. But when they look at him, they know,

730
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: they know that's the guy. That's the dude that pushs

731
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: Lime wiseid records on his back and when it made

732
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: meionnaires out that have been in the ghetto doing nothing,

733
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: when it took his talents and spread it amongst the

734
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: industry East West Coast and all that. Right, But I

735
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: believe the promotion restrictions right, the drug testing and all

736
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: of that, those are things I can see being in

737
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: that agreement. He doesn't have any restrictions on travel, but

738
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: again I want to focus on the promotion restrictions and

739
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: the association restrictions. And so you're watching the tactics right,

740
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: A lot of fans think Thug it's gonna slip up

741
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: with the promotion or the association because if they're saying

742
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: gang members, Hey, I ain't on no gang file. I

743
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: ain't never been a part of no gang so I

744
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: don't know no about no gang file. But this is

745
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: the trick of the judicial system. See this is what

746
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 2: I was telling you about, Yosh. I'll let you out.

747
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: But in solitude and isolation, that's damning life. Still being

748
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: locked up. It's way better than being locked up. But

749
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: now Thug got to reshape his whole social circle. All

750
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: they love him, they can't even come see them. Damn,

751
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: what do they got you down?

752
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: Part of what game?

753
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: Because if we're dealing with Foldon County, let them tell

754
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: it everybody that game Brian Steele. They maybe should have

755
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: got in that a little more and try to your

756
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: hold on. We got to carve out certain things as

757
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: it betrays the business, like all these you know, certain

758
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: record labels that they may be trying to act like

759
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: his games.

760
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: Like we proven that the over zealous, We proved that

761
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: they're obsessive.

762
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: It's Folding count is tricked to keep them away from

763
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: redacted and redacted and redected and redected.

764
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: You dig what I'm saying. When that's the structure that

765
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: he makes music with.

766
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna get creative and they can make music

767
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: without it. Thug can shoot he is over there, and

768
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: this person can shoot theirs over here. But maybe some

769
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 2: more time should have been spent on calling that out.

770
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: But I salute Brian Stealing. Also I salute Thugger Daily.

771
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to Thugger Daily. Thugger Daily has been on

772
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: top of it. Saluted my girl Megan Cunning. She's been

773
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: on the show. I'm gonna have to get her back.

774
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: Thug is now off trial. I think it's a good

775
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: time salute to Megan. But Thugger Daily has been the

776
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: source for young thugs trial. I mean, we can look

777
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: at this two ways with Thug as it pertains to

778
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: the promotion aspect of it, because on one end, you

779
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 2: can have part of the culture saying, yo, they trying

780
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: to make them sing without a soul? How do you

781
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: rap without a resume? How do you rap without referencing

782
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: your resume? Now, what this may do is force Thug

783
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: in and utilizing his voice for more positive means, and

784
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: it may teach another generation of culture how to get

785
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: back on some of that other ship. And so because

786
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: they they saying he came rap about gang bang and

787
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: it's cool. We can get back to the money and

788
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: see like baby like that. They rap about getting money.

789
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: Money man, people like that. They wrap about getting paper,

790
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: Rob o' rod Reevegez, they rap about getting money. He

791
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: can he can rap about getting some paper. But if

792
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: they ain't gonna let.

793
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: Him around them, Guys, how does that work?

794
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: And is it a documented gang member in Fulton County

795
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: or in the world, And how y'all gonna keep counting,

796
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: keep up with So if y'all see me in a

797
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: picture next to a third row in at a club

798
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: and here in the gang, do I get here liable

799
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: for that when I'm in a club because this is

800
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: what I get paid to do. Right, There's questions that

801
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: has to be spoke to when these kind of agreements

802
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: are set forward. Right, But you know what I'm saying,

803
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: I think some of the unintentional consequences up them putting

804
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: these kind of.

805
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Guardrails around thug.

806
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: If you're looking at it from the positive side and say, yo,

807
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: maybe this team, which is the next wave, maybe this

808
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: grabs hold to the next wave and you know, let

809
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 2: them know the importance of what they call getting money.

810
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: You know, I call acquiring funds or securing capital, you know,

811
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: accumulating wealth.

812
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: But maybe this is the shift.

813
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: Maybe all these things are happening at the same time

814
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: to shift the colture into now. I do want to

815
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: listen to the young Thug part of this, because I

816
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie for a minute. I was thinking, man,

817
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: you know, they say their time of change, and Thug

818
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: was so charismatic for he went in. I had certain questions,

819
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: but we'll get to those after we roll the tape. Well,

820
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: we're about to look at his young Thug accepting his

821
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: plea in the state of Fulton County as he was

822
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: arrested in charged with being the king pin of wide

823
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: sale records what they were calling young slime life, and

824
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: they wanted to charge him with record teering. The case

825
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: fell apart. Here we all with young Thug except a

826
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: miss plea road or tip.

827
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 8: Things like f the judge and I wrecked my life

828
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 8: for real. That's not even said by mister Williams. But

829
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 8: they don't care to find out. They are on a

830
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 8: tunnel vision to try to convict a man who should

831
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 8: not be convicted. The statement about I never nobody, but

832
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 8: I got something to do with that body as a

833
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 8: demise McMullen or a mister Cope due to some bard.

834
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 8: Mister Williams responds by saying, we can do an album

835
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 8: together if you want.

836
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: Stop this.

837
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 8: The man continues of how he's sleeping with mister williams

838
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 8: significant other, and then mister Williams responds by saying, I

839
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 8: would have killed you except for what you do. That

840
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 8: is the context that they don't tell you about. And

841
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 8: mister Williams did nothing to mister Bennett. In fact, the

842
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 8: evidence would have shown if we had time, or we

843
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 8: would would have gone forward that mister Bennett and mister

844
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 8: Williams on the red carpy receiving awards in California, sitting

845
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 8: right next to each other and taking photographs. This is

846
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 8: not the Jeffrey wod. Jeffrey Williams is a known person.

847
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: Who is all over the place.

848
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 8: If some if he did something somebody wanted, they can

849
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 8: find him.

850
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 9: By and by the state, which kind of gives you

851
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 9: some idea of what they were looking for as well.

852
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 9: In terms of conditions on mister Williams, if he were

853
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 9: to if we were to have reached some sort of agreement,

854
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 9: and we ask that if you feel that there is

855
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 9: anything within the stage proposal that might be appropriate in

856
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 9: terms of the sentence for mister Williams, that the court

857
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 9: police feel free to do that there is nothing that

858
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 9: he is.

859
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: That he is.

860
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 9: He puts himself before the court and I think two

861
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 9: and a half years sitting going through this process, challenging

862
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 9: the process, but now standing before you and asking that

863
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 9: you consider everything and sentence him appropriately in the way

864
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 9: that we request a.

865
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 6: Mister Williams, is there anything that you want to say?

866
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 10: Yes, ma'am. I take full responsibility for, you know, my

867
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 10: crimes or my charges.

868
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 5: Uh.

869
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 10: I want to say sorry to my family, my mom.

870
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 5: My mom got eleven kids.

871
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 10: I can't say all their names, you know, my managers,

872
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 10: my kids is not here.

873
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 8: Uh.

874
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 5: Really, everybody that got something to do with this situation.

875
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 10: I want to say sorry for just like, you know,

876
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 10: being having so much time investing into this, you know.

877
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 10: And I am a smart guy, I am a good guy,

878
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 10: and I really got a good heart.

879
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: You know.

880
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 5: I find myself in a lot of stuff because because

881
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 5: I was just nice or cool, you know.

882
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 10: And I understand that you can't be that way when

883
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 10: you reach a certain height because it could be bad

884
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 10: and then and they don't really have to have them

885
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 10: to do with you. But it ain't bad any good

886
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 10: you know following you number.

887
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 2: One salute to salute the thug, you know, for even

888
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: getting up there speaking. I think that was imperative and

889
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: important to the judge to hear from you, to hear

890
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: from you, I think that was so important. But to

891
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: have the ability to be able to speak in those

892
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: moments right, a lot of y'all would have froze up.

893
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: A lot of y'allould have been stuttering and and not

894
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: and not handling that in the right way. And let

895
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: me clarify, let me illuminate the scenario that this young

896
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: dude is in.

897
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: Everything is on the line. His lawyer is.

898
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: Telling him, we are winning the trial. What we're gonna

899
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: do right now is called a blind plea. That means

900
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: we have no control over the outcome. And once you

901
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: plead guilty, you can't give it back. So if she

902
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: come back with forty five years, ain't nothing we can

903
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: do but eat the forty five years up. And so

904
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 2: for the boldness, the grit, the courage that it took

905
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: to throw it all on the court. But you know

906
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: what I was looking for, though I ain't gonna lie.

907
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: A little bit of me was in there hoping, Man,

908
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: don't let thug talk different. Man, don't let me hear

909
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: for the first time. And he done got rid of

910
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: the well. You know, he got like a little he

911
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: got like a little like a bounce with.

912
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: Him, you know. But you know what I'm saying, because

913
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, he got like a bounce that he talked

914
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: with and go to jail to come out squall from Delaware.

915
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, man, I said, Man, don't let thug come

916
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: out square from Delaware from that time. Man, I know

917
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: that time were hardy had a life center. They were

918
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: trying to nail it to the cross. But God was good,

919
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: you and me. Yeah, Man, God was good. But when

920
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: he started talking, I said, oh, yeah, that's the same,

921
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: that's the same. He finna get out, get him a

922
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: Bentlet get him a new spot.

923
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: Move somewhere. Come on down to Nashville.

924
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: Wig, sit you down here, keep you away from there,

925
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: get some get a whole bunch of laying down here

926
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: and post up down here.

927
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Young Throb should move to Nashville.

928
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: Down there with me and Jelly Roll, the o'vonn come

929
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: down here with us.

930
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: We ain't doing all that old sh all that gang banging.

931
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: We going down on Broadway having a good time at

932
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: the Jelly Bar, at the Boss Stool Bar. You dig

933
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, man, we ain't getting it. Come on, man, moved.

934
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: Down to Nashville. You understand me.

935
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: Move on the outskirts, spin you two three meters, get

936
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: you some size of the hospital. You understand me, and

937
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: then move your old lady down here with you, your

938
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: family down here with you. You understand. You can raise your

939
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: kids down here. The schools are good. You dig what

940
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and stay out of trouble because they done

941
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: kicked him out of Atlanta. But pay attention though again

942
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: I think this is it's an imperative part of the

943
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: conversation where young thug is explaining to the judge. Yo, man,

944
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: I got in this situation because I will be in cool.

945
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: I was just trying to be cool.

946
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: And now maybe they was doing it, but may you

947
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: know I was a multi me and then what I

948
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: look like out there doing that shit now was him

949
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: looking around me fifty Yanna, I'm sorry man, I had

950
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 2: some fifty one fifty around me, Man.

951
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: And Yan.

952
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: I apologized for that, of course, y'all know I'm joking.

953
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: Pay attention.

954
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 10: I know the choice yours is up to you, and

955
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 10: I hope that you allow me to go home today

956
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 10: and just trusting me to just do the right thing

957
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 10: and never see you again and listen and listens at a.

958
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: You know, bar in the future or something just out.

959
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 10: Of this type of situation. I prompted, y'all gonna ever

960
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 10: be in this type of situation again. I'm going away.

961
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 10: I've learned from my mistakes. You know, I come from

962
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 10: nothing and I've made something and I didn't take full

963
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 10: advantage of it. I'm sorry through these last two and

964
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 10: a half years of my life. You are really, truly,

965
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 10: honestly the best thing that has happened to me, because

966
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 10: you made made everything fairer for me and everybody involved

967
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 10: on both sides.

968
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: You know.

969
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 10: I'm sorry to to share, you know, everybody, but just

970
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 10: having to put extra time in. I know y'all got

971
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 10: paid more money, but I'm sorry for y'all having to

972
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 10: put this extra time in to be away from yall family,

973
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 10: you know.

974
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 5: And I just hope that you find me in your

975
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 5: heart to.

976
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 10: Allow me to go home and be with my family

977
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 10: and just do better as a person.

978
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 5: I know what I bring to the table. I know

979
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 5: what I am.

980
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: I know.

981
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: The heights I've reached, I know the impact I got.

982
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: It's still is a podcast.

983
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: Now Now why Thug is giving a heartfel message to

984
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: the judge. I do want to draw your attention to

985
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: the elephant in the room and feed them some peanuts. Man,

986
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: I know Yack gott in him in the background because

987
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking at his face. He looking like man, the

988
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: money leaving, the camera's leaving all this even like, is

989
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: they gonna go? Is they still gonna do right by me?

990
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: Because you know when Thug and there its eyes on it,

991
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: because you know when the grabman Ward winning Jeffrey Williams,

992
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: young Thug is on the try his eyes on it.

993
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: It's under scrutiny. It's a certain level of visible. It's

994
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: a certain level of visibility to come with. But if

995
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: you the last two people yet got it and the

996
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: other guy you looking like man, it's the camera gonna

997
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: even show up Monday. Is still gonna be doing videos?

998
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: Is they still gonna be getting views? Because you gotta

999
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: think the level of superstar Thug was. He fed a

1000
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: lot of them YouTube for eighteen months. Right, I speak

1001
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: on things that I care about, I don't got I

1002
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: don't speak on that every day and make money off

1003
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: of it, even if I look at it every day.

1004
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: Because I look at that every day.

1005
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: I was watching these trials, all of them, but I

1006
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: never streamed it.

1007
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: That's me not taking advantage of my.

1008
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: Eyes, because my eyes literally begs me to stream it.

1009
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: The few days I did stream the Young Thug trial,

1010
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: literally my said streaming tomorrow.

1011
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: We need you doing this.

1012
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: I haven't got there in my journey yet, but a

1013
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: lot of the YouTube guys literally fed their families and

1014
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: bought cars and houses off of Young Thug being in jail.

1015
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: Now, this helps Thug.

1016
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: Because the level of media attention on it keeps it,

1017
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: keeps everything honest. But you don't get that level of

1018
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: attention for eighteen months, two years straight in the hip

1019
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: hop community. The detention span is way too short for that.

1020
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: You don't get those sectors that live in the hip

1021
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: hop community like that unless you one of ours, and

1022
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: because Thug was one of ours, we would have conversation

1023
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: surrounding what was happening in the trial and how it

1024
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: was unfair. We'll get to media in the second. How

1025
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: some of these guys now have flipped the switch. Now

1026
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: it seems like they're saying, YO, free thug and I'm

1027
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 2: happy he's home. When they were advocating and saying that

1028
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: he should get life, he done it. He'd one hundred

1029
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: percent going to jail. But we'll get to that in

1030
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 2: a minute. I want to salute the media people who

1031
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: were covering this case, who were covering this case from

1032
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: a genuine standpoint. Money came with it. Salute the cuff boys,

1033
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: Salute the Thugger Daily. These are the two that I

1034
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: mainly watched for my updates, but it was a number

1035
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: of them, like it was a It was a lot

1036
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: of you guys out there that really held it down

1037
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: for thug and make sure that visibility was out there.

1038
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 2: I was someone that was having conversations on the higher

1039
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: level about the trial, and every time I had a conversation,

1040
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: they do four five hundred thousand, So you know, my

1041
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: impact was there as well.

1042
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: But some of y'all.

1043
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: Dedicated every single day of your life to that young

1044
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: thug trial and it helped. But the new question now

1045
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: is what y'all gonna do now? Uh yeah, yeah, No,

1046
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 2: it's time for a real question. What y'all gonna do?

1047
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: Now?

1048
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: We salute you for the work you've done, but now

1049
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: what you know, what do your channel evolve to?

1050
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: What do you emerage jazz? Right?

1051
01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1052
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: Now, salute for thug, But now what you're chinnel? You

1053
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: got a whole bunch of young thug fans do y'all?

1054
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: Now what do y'all do now? But one thing about YouTube,

1055
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: it's harsh when it drop off. If it is making

1056
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty grand and then views go down and

1057
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: you see seven, eight, nine, ten thousand, that hurt. That's like,

1058
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: oh my god, you panic as a businessman. So a

1059
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: lot of these guys are gonna see a dramatic hit

1060
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: in their channels now their thug is out, and it's unfortunate.

1061
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: But just like some of the crime channels on TV,

1062
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: there's a subsection of the culture that thrives on the

1063
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: downfall of the rappers and other black people and other people,

1064
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: content creators or what have you.

1065
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: Your downfall is where they live.

1066
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: Even for me in this young Thug conversation, you hear

1067
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: me speak about the business. How does he now do

1068
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 2: music with other rappers in the game. You know what

1069
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying, How much money is he really gonna be

1070
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: able to make? And what does a soul is young

1071
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: thug sound like?

1072
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: Right?

1073
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: What does a young thug without rapping about his resume

1074
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: sound like? His first album? And not being able to

1075
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: speak about the trial psych They didn't say that he

1076
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: can't talk about gangs. That don't mean he can't say

1077
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: the prosecutors tried to tie me up. The prosecutors tried

1078
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: to write that don't mean he can't go there riding now.

1079
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: Just so y'all clear. So thug got a lot to

1080
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: talk about.

1081
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: He don't got to say slat and slime and say

1082
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 2: nothing about gang banging.

1083
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: But he just went through a lot the last two years.

1084
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: They were literally bringing his records into the justice system

1085
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: and using them as evidence. You got to remember the

1086
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: gravity of that pay attention period.

1087
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 5: In the community. You know, all people.

1088
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 10: I learned that late, like past these past two or

1089
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 10: three years of my life. I kind of learned that late.

1090
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 10: And maybe it was because I was, you know, probably

1091
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 10: on drugs or anything. I don't know, but I have

1092
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 10: came to my senses and I understand what I mean.

1093
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 5: To this world. But I am a good guy.

1094
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: You know.

1095
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 5: I don't mind doing stuff like you know, like free shows,

1096
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 5: and I always did that. You know.

1097
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 10: I did free shows and gave it to single parents

1098
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 10: millions of dollars. You know.

1099
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 5: I made one point eight million.

1100
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 10: Dollars on a free show and I gave it all

1101
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 10: to single Parent charity. And I did like two or

1102
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 10: three shows that made like seven hundred thousand a piece,

1103
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 10: and I gave it to the breast cancer organization. Like

1104
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 10: you know, I do things. I put millions of dollars

1105
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 10: back into my community.

1106
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 5: For real, I really did.

1107
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 10: I did more than anybody ever did from my side,

1108
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 10: you know. But I understand, you know, rap lyrics. I

1109
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 10: understand how it could be twisted. I understand what they

1110
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 10: could do to the mind of people. I understand all that,

1111
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 10: and I promise you I'm one hundred percent changing that.

1112
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1113
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 5: It's just I'm old.

1114
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 10: I'm grown now, you know, And it's just like I'm smarter.

1115
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 10: It's more things to wrap about. Like I've experienced a

1116
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 10: lot of good things. I experienced a more bad things,

1117
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 10: but I experienced a lot of good things too.

1118
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 5: And anyway, I can. I can go well, I.

1119
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 6: Appreciate it, and I appreciate that you do realize how

1120
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 6: much of an impact you have on people. I mean,

1121
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 6: it's it's it's past your neighborhood. It's worldwide, especially young people.

1122
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 6: And having come up from where you came up from

1123
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 6: and living in and around that, you know that gangs

1124
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 6: are damaging to our community. And it may be that

1125
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 6: a whole lot of rap music in the rap industry

1126
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 6: is I mean, honestly, it sounds like a modern day

1127
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 6: version of kind of wwe rest that used to be

1128
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 6: on television, where people would just get up and posture

1129
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 6: and act like they hated each other. And it may

1130
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 6: be that that's a lot of what is going on

1131
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 6: in the.

1132
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 8: Music industry with rap.

1133
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 6: But whether it is fake or not, it has tremendous

1134
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 6: impact on kids, in young people who.

1135
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: Think this is cool, this is what I want to do.

1136
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 6: Look at him, he's a millionaire. I can do that

1137
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 6: by being, you know, a gangster in the streets, and

1138
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 6: that's not true. What you're likely to have happened to

1139
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 6: you if you're a gangster in the streets is you

1140
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 6: get shot, you get killed, or you get thrown in prison,

1141
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 6: and those are you know, by far the most likely outcomes.

1142
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 3: And you know.

1143
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 6: You've been in here watch in the trial, and you've

1144
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 6: seen the pictures of mister Ryan posing with a gun

1145
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 6: as big as he is at fifteen years old and

1146
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 6: going out and shooting and another teenager. And that's what

1147
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 6: gangs do, and that's unfortunately a lot of what rap

1148
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 6: music does. And if you are a modern day John Lennon,

1149
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, he might he might have rapped

1150
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 6: too in this day and age. I don't know, but

1151
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 6: I know you're talented, and even if you choose to

1152
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 6: continue to wrap, you need to try to use your

1153
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 6: influence to let kids know that that is not the

1154
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 6: way to go and that there are ways out of

1155
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 6: poverty besides.

1156
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: Hooking up with the look at the state to stay mad.

1157
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: See one thing about the lawyer, you know by her

1158
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: sequence of statements, where she's going be even saying even

1159
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 2: when this is over and you continue to rap, if

1160
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna, that's already telling Brian still she's gonna let

1161
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: him out.

1162
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1163
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: It's about listening to the conditions. But I want you

1164
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 2: to know that these lawyers went here and her speak to.

1165
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: Doug like this. They already know what the vibes is.

1166
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: He get to come home, you know, I know.

1167
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 6: That happens for protection sometimes that a much better way

1168
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 6: would be getting an education and.

1169
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: Setting you know.

1170
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 6: Hanging around with people who's set a good example, and

1171
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 6: you be one of those people.

1172
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 3: It sets a good example.

1173
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 6: I mean, all right, So that's that's my Chai horson, maup.

1174
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 6: I could also go on, but I want you to

1175
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 6: try to be more of the solution and less of

1176
01:08:54,160 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 6: the problem. All right, all right, So it is not

1177
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 6: lost on the court that the state, had they been

1178
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 6: able to come to agreement on certain special conditions, was

1179
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 6: willing to entirely dismiss the Rico count, was willing to

1180
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 6: entirely dismiss one of the gang counts, and was willing

1181
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 6: to entirely dismiss this machine gun count. Was willing to

1182
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 6: give a sentence that permitted mister Williams to walk out

1183
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 6: of the door today, and therefore does not seem to

1184
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 6: be particularly worried that mister Williams, if on the streets,

1185
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 6: would be a danger to society. I'm taking that into

1186
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 6: consideration and crafting my sentence.

1187
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: And man, which one you y'all saying I ain't the

1188
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 2: coldest with this. Who remember eighteen months ago when I

1189
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 2: came out and said, Yo, Gunner, don't take the plea.

1190
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: Take that deal back in front of the judge and say, yo, yanna,

1191
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,520
Speaker 2: this man got one charge with his signature.

1192
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 1: They would have let him out. It's completely unfair.

1193
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: At least he deserves a bond, and the judge would

1194
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: have probably led him out, but his lawyer didn't say that,

1195
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: and they went ahead.

1196
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: And took the deal.

1197
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 2: Yo, if my signature can get me out on the

1198
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: streets today with no stipulations, I should.

1199
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: Be able to have a bond. That mean you ain't

1200
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: necessarily hung up on a conviction. But when they say

1201
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: I ain't the best said peeping game man, Come on, man, be.

1202
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 6: For real pleadchi the Rico count and one of the

1203
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 6: two gang counts. I would not be permitting Manolo to

1204
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 6: the one if you were not pleading guilty to at

1205
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 6: least one of them. But you are, and y'all admit

1206
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 6: a factual basis for the counts that you are pleading

1207
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 6: guilty to. I find there to be a faccial basis

1208
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 6: for those counts and for the remaining counts with which

1209
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:19,879
Speaker 6: you are charged. I am going to impose a sentence,

1210
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: and I've taken a little bit of the suggested special

1211
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 6: conditions from the defense and a little bit of the

1212
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 6: special conditions suggested by the prosecution. On count one, the

1213
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 6: court sentence is twenty years to serve.

1214
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: When it was all said and done, he got out

1215
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 2: with the fifteen years, with the special conditions that we've

1216
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: been speaking about here today. We wish Doug luck on

1217
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: his journey. Of course, at some point we'll have a conversation.

1218
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: At some point we'll have a conversation. But yeah, man,

1219
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: you know, he has an opportunity to get back out here,

1220
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: make money, be a positive influence in the culture, and

1221
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 2: also get back to him. You know, I think a

1222
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 2: conversation is to be had about the control that's in place,

1223
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: right and what that's gonna look like, how that's gonna

1224
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: materialize in the music. Also on the internet, they're making

1225
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: a big thing about him requesting to do music with Gunner. Look,

1226
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: his scenario with Gunner is for him and Gunner to

1227
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: work out. What I do find unfortunate is that Thug,

1228
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: one of the most influential rappers from the South, from

1229
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: Atlanta in particular, takes a plead after being locked up

1230
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: on rico charges where they unfairly were using music, quoting

1231
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: lyrics and other things that, according to his lawyer, wasn't

1232
01:12:59,560 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: even his.

1233
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: It's lyrics and some kind of way.

1234
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: The trolls online have little Baby trending, and so there's

1235
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: a conversation around the little baby Gunner and young thug scenario.

1236
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: So I think we can tackle that conversation today. I

1237
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie, man, when it comes to me. I'm

1238
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 2: not gonna lie when it comes to me. I rarely

1239
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: like to take time to have communication and conversation and

1240
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: dialogue with the uninformed, the ill advised, the irrational, the naive,

1241
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 2: or the unintelligent.

1242
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: But I got time today. I need for people to

1243
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: explain to me.

1244
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: What is the little baby Thug and Gunner conversation even

1245
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: about from my viewpoint, from our viewpoint, from a lot

1246
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 2: of people's viewpoint that's watching this, is that you're watching

1247
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: young thug with its life and the balance of the state,

1248
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: and nobody knows what's going on. Right, Gunnar can feel

1249
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: how Gunnar wanna feel, you know, Gunna, Thug Baby, I

1250
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 2: don't know what's about to happen, really don't nobody know

1251
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: how Thug taking it right. Y'all are going off of

1252
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 2: what's being asked in his agreement, But you don't know

1253
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 2: his thought process on the song. If Gunn emerged from

1254
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 2: the Inner City and the Trap like everybody else, did.

1255
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: He know what he was up against?

1256
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 2: He know that the loved Thug was gonna feel a

1257
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 2: certain kind of way about him, you know, doing whatever

1258
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: that was that he done.

1259
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: If Thug decided to, If Thug decided.

1260
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 2: To get back with Gunn and be cool with Gunna, Yo,

1261
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: they brothers, that's their business. But Gunnar can't be mad

1262
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: at baby if you ask me, because when since when

1263
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 2: your homie get locked up?

1264
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: It's showing the lee just was a bad thing. When

1265
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: did that go viral?

1266
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: When did displaying devotion to your partner that went down

1267
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: the road? When did that become not cool or not

1268
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: the thing to do? Uphold lordie standing for your homie?

1269
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 2: When did that not become something that was cool? So

1270
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 2: for me, there's no way that this is even a conversation.

1271
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: Whatever they work out, they work out again, we don't

1272
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: know what the position on it is. If him is

1273
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: gonna get back together. Salute to them, thug is the

1274
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 2: one that got a better cross that whatever happened to him,

1275
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: he the one got away at You see what I'm saying.

1276
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 2: You gotta ask yourself what games will folkon County play like?

1277
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: If you do a song with it, it's on a.

1278
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: Game file that you don't even know about, man, I

1279
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: don't know they dude, the game file. Yo, the label

1280
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: send five hundred thousand for this song. I ain't around that, dude,

1281
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: But there's some music that come out and use my likeness.

1282
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: Y'all gonna control my brand. That's just like my brain.

1283
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: There's a thin line between control and seizon it again.

1284
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: So my question is, how does that guilty please play

1285
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: into a federal case, if at all? And did he

1286
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: plead guilty to something that the fears can play with

1287
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 2: in the event that they try to play games. Of course,

1288
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: we knock on wood and hope that that's never the case.

1289
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: But two, it's almost like confiscation.

1290
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: Of the brand.

1291
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: If yo, I can't really rap about what I want

1292
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 2: to rap about. I'm kind of controlled and I can't

1293
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: even make money along the fellow people in the industry

1294
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: that may have gang ties. But let's be out in America.

1295
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't have gang ties. I know,

1296
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 2: you know the rap world. They all these guys want

1297
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: to act like they some well know gang leader. But

1298
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys ain't on no gang file.

1299
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 2: So thugger be all right, he'll be able to be

1300
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: around some of these dudes. And it ain't no stripe

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Speaker 2: to be on no gang file. Don't let them trick

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Speaker 2: you that it's some kind of stripe to be on

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Speaker 2: a gang file. And so sometimes we carry the wrong cross, yo, yo,

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Speaker 2: La Homer, that ain't your cross the bell, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. All you was, you know, all you

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Speaker 2: meant to your community and your family, and all that

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Speaker 2: was that you was a gang leader. You know, we

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Speaker 2: don't want to with those stripes on our back. You know,

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Speaker 2: it gotta be transformation for us to celebrate that, because

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Speaker 2: what that says to me is they tricked you and

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Speaker 2: put you in a maze and you couldn't find your

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Speaker 2: way out. And we want to celebrate those that find

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Speaker 2: their way out, not leaving anyone and not laughing at

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Speaker 2: those that having a hard time, but we celebrate those

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Speaker 2: that find their way out of the maze. And so

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Speaker 2: sometimes you don't hear me be as critical on some

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Speaker 2: of these individuals as other people. It's because I understand

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Speaker 2: the maze, the trap they called it. And so for

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Speaker 2: the uninformed, the naive, and the under achievers, allow someone

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Speaker 2: that got just a little bit more season to explain

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Speaker 2: to you some of the things that you encounter or

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Speaker 2: you may see happening amongst the culture. But everything ain't

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Speaker 2: for everybody. And I'll say that with gratitude to the

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Speaker 2: people that's involved in watching my content, because everything is

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Speaker 2: not for everybody. Some of these people are unbearable for

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Speaker 2: me to listen to. And I'll spare you or their names,

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Speaker 2: because it'll have them making content for six months. Right,

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Speaker 2: some of these individuals are struggling to get a hundred views,

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Speaker 2: a thousand views, five thousand people tuned in when you

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Speaker 2: have three or four thousand paying subscribers and customers, and

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Speaker 2: it's rough for you to understand how to get to

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Speaker 2: the one hundred thousand. See when I look at people

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Speaker 2: like and we finna get out of here because I'm

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Speaker 2: off on a tangent. But when I look at certain individuals,

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Speaker 2: because I can see they Patreon numbers. Now there's a

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Speaker 2: tool where you can see their Patreon numbers, and so

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Speaker 2: you know, me and some of my counterparts, we're doing

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Speaker 2: this race to six thousand Patreon subscribers, but some of

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Speaker 2: these people got.

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Speaker 11: Twenty thousand and fifty thousand, one hundred thousand. You did,

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Speaker 11: just think about one hundred thousands of many Netflix. Man,

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Speaker 11: you know the kind of level of stuff I start producing. Yo,

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Speaker 11: We'll start having movies, We'll start having like bro I

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Speaker 11: ain't even gonna get a sauce up, but we'll start

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Speaker 11: having so many different things if we can get that

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Speaker 11: many people on Patreon.

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Speaker 2: And so for those that really believe in the movement,

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Speaker 2: you have to come somewhere with your money and you're

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Speaker 2: subscribing to the platform because that's the only way we'll

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Speaker 2: be able to really enhance your experience as a person

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Speaker 2: that engages with the content to get through your day.

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Speaker 2: And it don't take a lot, but it takes consistency, right,

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Speaker 2: because we're building a brick by brick, and we don't

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Speaker 2: look for although we're in the industry, we don't look

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Speaker 2: for any leg up from the industry because for a

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Speaker 2: lot of individuals, we just so happen to be to

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Speaker 2: come petition and so, you know, we don't take it

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Speaker 2: in well a certain way. You know, I blame it

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Speaker 2: on their head not to they hard because they don't

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Speaker 2: know that they can't stop a train.

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Speaker 1: No matter what they put on the railroad tracks. The

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Speaker 1: only person that can stop the train is the conductor.

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Speaker 1: And so you gotta be careful what you put on

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Speaker 1: the train tracks, just trying to stop this hit train,

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Speaker 1: right because whatever get obliterated, it doesn't stand a chance

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Speaker 1: on the tracks that I'm headed down. And so I

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Speaker 1: encourage the.

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Speaker 2: People that has placed themselves on the other side of being,

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Speaker 2: and so for those who do not consider them, and

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Speaker 2: so for those who do not consider themselves a teammate

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Speaker 2: of mind, I just want to send a PSA and

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Speaker 2: that excludes nobody. There is no hard feelings and there

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Speaker 2: will be no disrespect.

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Speaker 1: But we're building this thing.

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Speaker 2: Break by briggings up there podcast, I really appreciate you'll

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Speaker 2: see owning that this episode f