Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to Movie Crush. This is Chuck
Speaker 1: here the home studio Pont City Market with Knoll. Hey Chuck,
Speaker 1: Good morning, Chuck, Good morning. We are this is our
Speaker 1: earliest recording yet hailing it. Come on, it's not clock.
Speaker 1: It's fine. We'll just wood like it was six fifteen.
Speaker 1: How you doing doing well? Yeah? How about you? I'm great.
Speaker 1: I was just reading this New Yorker article when you
Speaker 1: walked in on Atlanta Monster. I know. We're really like,
Speaker 1: we're living with the swells with that show, aren't we crazy? Um?
Speaker 1: All right, so welcome every body to uh Mini Crush
Speaker 1: number five. This week's We're gonna just get right into it.
Speaker 1: We've got a few segments and this one first one
Speaker 1: is a new one. I'm gonna call it Hollywood History. Hollywood.
Speaker 1: How about that? I like it very much. So maybe
Speaker 1: every once in a while just do a little stuff.
Speaker 1: You should know, stop short bit on something that I
Speaker 1: found interesting, and this was certainly that um story of
Speaker 1: Peg Entwhistle. Do you know who that is? Nold? There's
Speaker 1: a bass player with the last name Entwistle from the
Speaker 1: who right, John? It was not the same guy? No, No,
Speaker 1: this is Peg and I don't think there was any
Speaker 1: relation there. In fact, I know there's not because Peg
Speaker 1: was very well known um in two for leaping to
Speaker 1: her death from the age of the Hollywood Sign. Wow,
Speaker 1: have you ever heard that? I have not heard that.
Speaker 1: But that's a high age. That would definitely be a
Speaker 1: be a death fall that would do it. And so
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, back then the sign said Hollywood Land. Um.
Speaker 1: I did not look this part up, so I'm not
Speaker 1: sure when it switched. But if you didn't know that,
Speaker 1: it used to say Hollywood Land, the big famous iconic
Speaker 1: sign in the Hollywood Hills there in Los Angeles. And
Speaker 1: I think it was like a a developer or something,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't you know. Then the land came down
Speaker 1: just became Hollywood. Have you seen that movie Hollywood Land? No,
Speaker 1: But I wrote a movie years ago called Hollywood Land,
Speaker 1: which had nothing to do with the movie that came
Speaker 1: out called Hollywood Land. But I wrote a movie years
Speaker 1: ago that never went anywhere. It was not very good
Speaker 1: of course, um that ended up being uh, sort of
Speaker 1: like the movie Crash remember that one. Yeah, it actually
Speaker 1: won the Oscar but wasn't a very good movie. It's
Speaker 1: a weird one right that everyone loved and years later
Speaker 1: I like to think it was a better version of Crash.
Speaker 1: But it had the name Hollywood Land, which later became
Speaker 1: a movie. So I was kind of like, well, this
Speaker 1: is clearly I'm not gonna go anywhere serendipity because the
Speaker 1: plat and the titler taken anyway, Peg Entwhistle in two
Speaker 1: leapt from the Hollywood signs. Huh. Some say that area
Speaker 1: is still haunted today. Uh, there are reportings of uh, well,
Speaker 1: I'll get to that actually, Um, but here's PEG's story.
Speaker 1: She well, here, there's kind of two parts to this.
Speaker 1: She uh came to Hollywood and she ended up working
Speaker 1: a little bit. She got a big role in David
Speaker 1: O'sel's Next Thirteen Women, but was cut from the final film.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that happens. Uh, And the kind of legend goes
Speaker 1: that she she came to Hollywood and did not ever
Speaker 1: Um did not ever make it as the young starlett
Speaker 1: that she wanted to be, So she leapt from the
Speaker 1: h because of that. On September six, two beautiful Hollywood
Speaker 1: actress grief stricken, supposedly intoxicated, uh drunk, I guess um
Speaker 1: hiked from her uncle's house to the Hollywood signed and yes,
Speaker 1: actually to see it did say Hollywood Land back then. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's a serious hike. Yeah, get to that side
Speaker 1: is no small task. Yeah, I mean and now there
Speaker 1: are trails. I don't even know what it was like. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's it's not easy and uh so
Speaker 1: she hiped from her uncle's house, climbed up the maintenance
Speaker 1: ladder in the back, and then uh leapt to her death.
Speaker 1: The next day, a female hiker unidentified found her body
Speaker 1: with a shoe, a jacket, a person a suicide note
Speaker 1: that said, I'm afraid. I'm a coward. I'm sorry for everything.
Speaker 1: If I had done this a long time ago, it
Speaker 1: would have saved a lot of pain. P e for
Speaker 1: peg end whistle man, how about that? It's sad. So
Speaker 1: here's the deal though, uh people have said it's been
Speaker 1: haunted for years. According to legend, the ghost is accompanied
Speaker 1: by the smell of Guardinius, which was her favorite perfume.
Speaker 1: People say they have smelled that. You know, it's one
Speaker 1: of those you know, I don't believe it, but it's
Speaker 1: one of those stories that you hear. Smell is a
Speaker 1: very powerful sense Chuck, it is it is. But here's
Speaker 1: the truth actually, Um, it's sort of been rewritten all
Speaker 1: these years that peg Entwhistle was upset because she didn't
Speaker 1: make it as a big actress. And while she may
Speaker 1: not have loved the fact that she was never a
Speaker 1: big actress, she actually was. Today you would probably call
Speaker 1: her clinically depressed and who knows, maybe bipolar or maybe
Speaker 1: had some other you know, uh, some other mental illness
Speaker 1: going on. Uh. It's really easy to paint her as like, oh,
Speaker 1: she didn't make it in Hollywood, so she left to
Speaker 1: her death. But there was a lot more going on
Speaker 1: with pegg Ent Whistle. Well, that stuff was largely un
Speaker 1: treatable or undiagnosed in those days. Yeah, she would have
Speaker 1: been hysterical, hysterical woman probably. Um so back east that
Speaker 1: as the true story goes, or the more full story. Um,
Speaker 1: she lived and worked on Broadway, had a had a
Speaker 1: decent career on Broadway. Actually, when she was nineteen, she
Speaker 1: married an older actor this is kind of interesting, named
Speaker 1: Robert key h. Two years later they divorced and she
Speaker 1: alleged deception and cruelty and uh because she found out
Speaker 1: that he had been previously married and had a six
Speaker 1: year old son, and that six year old son would
Speaker 1: grow up to be the actor Brian Keith. So that's
Speaker 1: a little, uh little side note there. Um So anyway,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it looks like she
Speaker 1: told her uncle that she was gonna step out to
Speaker 1: buy a book from a drug drug store and then
Speaker 1: to maybe go see some friends, and she disappeared. And
Speaker 1: the uncle did say she was always fascinated by that sign.
Speaker 1: But by all accounts, peck Ent Whistle had had serious
Speaker 1: mental problems, um most certainly depression, and it was not
Speaker 1: all just wrapped up in this starlet never made it
Speaker 1: as an actor's story. Um it sounds like her when
Speaker 1: we've got real bad reviews too, I guess that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that doesn't help depression. She got cut from
Speaker 1: the studio. I think it looks like right. But her
Speaker 1: uncle Charles did say that she was depressed, suffering an
Speaker 1: intense mental anger wish and um, I just I hate
Speaker 1: it when stories like that are just neatly tied in
Speaker 1: such a bow that you never really realized that there's
Speaker 1: probably really something serious going on there and it wasn't
Speaker 1: just about the movie industry. Uh So that is Hollywood
Speaker 1: History for this week. Uh. And now we'll just move
Speaker 1: right on into recommended viewing. As you know, I recommend
Speaker 1: a foreign film, a documentary film, and an independent film
Speaker 1: in the recommended viewing segment, and I will start with
Speaker 1: not Born in the USA. My foreign film pick for
Speaker 1: the week is Run, Lola Run. I knew you would
Speaker 1: have seen that one years ago. I haven't seen a lot,
Speaker 1: but it's such a cool one. I haven't either. I
Speaker 1: was kind of just picking through my brain about I
Speaker 1: used to watch a lot more foreign films. I think
Speaker 1: it's the deal. Um. And I don't know why I
Speaker 1: haven't been on that train lately, but I need to
Speaker 1: get back on it. Run Lola Run, the Great German
Speaker 1: film from directed by Tom Tickover. It's a thriller, um.
Speaker 1: I guess you would call it a thriller. Uh. And
Speaker 1: it starts Franka Potente and more. It's bleep trough and
Speaker 1: the story is very basic. Basically is right at the
Speaker 1: very beginning, Lola, this character gets a call from her
Speaker 1: boyfriend Frantic and she has to get ahold of one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand Deutsche marks in twenty minutes to save his life.
Speaker 1: And when you start a movie like that, you get
Speaker 1: that clock ticking in such a frantic fashion. It's not
Speaker 1: like you've got forty eight hours twenty minutes. So it
Speaker 1: just launches like a cannonball right out of the gate
Speaker 1: right there. Does not let up, and it does not
Speaker 1: let up, and it tells the story in three, um
Speaker 1: three different ways. There are three different runs with three
Speaker 1: different outcomes, and each time she starts over in the
Speaker 1: same place and basically at the end of each run,
Speaker 1: you know, um, I won't spoil it, but like I said,
Speaker 1: there are three different outcomes depending on what happens on
Speaker 1: her run. So it's got a little bit of a
Speaker 1: sliding doors quality to it. Uh. But it's just like
Speaker 1: the pace of this movie is just nuts. Yet it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like, you know, it's sort of edge your seat,
Speaker 1: but it's not exhausting as a as a viewer. It's
Speaker 1: very nineties. It's very like techno soundtrack and it's almost
Speaker 1: kind of like an electro groundhog Day situation or like
Speaker 1: Rashaman or something. Yeah, that's a good way to put
Speaker 1: it actually. Uh. And they call it Run Lola Run
Speaker 1: because you know, she's got twenty minutes. She spends a
Speaker 1: lot of this movie running literally physically running in the
Speaker 1: Midtown Arts Cinema like on our local movie theater. They
Speaker 1: have all these foreign posters in the lobby and one
Speaker 1: of them is for that and the German version is
Speaker 1: just called Lola rent Yeah, it's at rent Um anyway,
Speaker 1: great movie, check it out. The next up, we have
Speaker 1: our documentary What's Up? Doc? I Am Going to Go
Speaker 1: with the Kids stays in the picture from two thousand
Speaker 1: to this movie from uh Nanette Bernstein and Brett Morrigan.
Speaker 1: It's about the life of fame film producer Robert Evans,
Speaker 1: his his history in Hollywood, starting from when he was
Speaker 1: in a kind of a bad actor by all accounts,
Speaker 1: he was sort of a rags to riches to rags
Speaker 1: story because he doesn't make it as an actor, becomes
Speaker 1: a producer, eventually becomes a studio chief, they head of
Speaker 1: Paramount Pictures, and then kind of loses it all and
Speaker 1: there is um there's a lot involved along the way
Speaker 1: and Uh. They focused on his personal relationships, notably his
Speaker 1: marriage to Ali mcgrawl, the actress from Love Story, which
Speaker 1: he produced very big hit with Ryan O'Neill. He also
Speaker 1: produced The Godfather. He also produced Chinatown and Paramount under
Speaker 1: his watch was those were so sort of the golden
Speaker 1: years of Paramount Pictures. Uh in the nineteen seventies when
Speaker 1: Robert Evans was was chief. Have you seen it? I
Speaker 1: have not. Oh dude, didn't you say you went to
Speaker 1: the premiere of that? And yeah? I think, Um, I
Speaker 1: want to say, Paula Tompkins in that episode. Um, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the premiere. I just want an opening night in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles on Sunset Boulevard and it was. It felt
Speaker 1: like a premiere because there were at least tenders, well
Speaker 1: famous people in that audience. It was a very highly
Speaker 1: anticipated movie. Um, in the in the Hollywood community. And uh,
Speaker 1: it was just visually really compelling the way they told
Speaker 1: the story. And people have ripped it off since then. Um,
Speaker 1: but at the time, you know, documentaries didn't do things
Speaker 1: like this had these animations. Um, you really just got
Speaker 1: to see it like almost like cut out animations that
Speaker 1: tell the story. And Evans narrated it of course, which
Speaker 1: is there's no way it could have been anyone else
Speaker 1: than Robert Evans telling his own story. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: sure there are parts of it that are funny. Um,
Speaker 1: and he's he's he tells the story in a very
Speaker 1: real way, and he's just got this booming voice and
Speaker 1: the way he talks about, you know, making pictures, and
Speaker 1: he's sort of a throwback um visually though just off
Speaker 1: the charts as far as what documentaries were doing at
Speaker 1: the time. You could like it had a budget, you know,
Speaker 1: which is that's the reason most documentaries back then didn't
Speaker 1: look great because of course there's some kid with a
Speaker 1: camera guerrilla style. Let's check that up, uh and it it.
Speaker 1: I think it made a big difference in the kind
Speaker 1: of budgets that documentaries did get because they kind of
Speaker 1: started looking better after kids stays in the picture made
Speaker 1: a lot of money. It was a big hit. And
Speaker 1: then finally my Independence Day pick I'm going to go
Speaker 1: with the day Trippers from talked very briefly about this
Speaker 1: on the episode with Guy Brandham, which should be out
Speaker 1: by now, I think, um, but if not, look forward
Speaker 1: to that. And it was written and directed by the
Speaker 1: wonderful Greg Mazzola and and I think it was his
Speaker 1: first movie, a little small indie. It was a very
Speaker 1: simple story. That's a story about a woman who finds
Speaker 1: a letter that indicates that her husband may be cheating
Speaker 1: on her, so she decides to pile in the car
Speaker 1: in the station wagon with her sister, her sister's boyfriend,
Speaker 1: and her parents and go from Long Island into the
Speaker 1: city of Manhattan to uh do a little spying and
Speaker 1: find that out. Very simple story, just a delightful fun movie. Uh.
Speaker 1: The woman has hope. Davis Stanley Tucci is her husband,
Speaker 1: Parker Posey as her sister, Liev Schreiber as her boyfriend,
Speaker 1: and her mom and dad are the great Anne Mara
Speaker 1: and Pat McNamara. Also Campbell Scott is in it. And
Speaker 1: it's just so funny. Uh. It's just one of these
Speaker 1: movies that really captures family so well because their whole
Speaker 1: family is kind of playing detective in Manhattan, snooping around
Speaker 1: his office trying to find out if he's cheating on her.
Speaker 1: And um, just a very very delightful fun movie. The
Speaker 1: Day Trippers from nineteen nine six go check it out,
Speaker 1: all right, and we finish up with stream this and
Speaker 1: comment card I am gonna go for streaming this. It's
Speaker 1: a bit of a cheat because it's an HBO show
Speaker 1: and you don't exactly stream that, although it gets you
Speaker 1: can you can buy that all the cart Now, I
Speaker 1: think you don't even have to have a subscription. There's
Speaker 1: an HBO Now or whatever, HBO go, you can just
Speaker 1: you can just buy now. Yeah, all right, we're good
Speaker 1: for them. High Maintenance Season two. Do you watch this show?
Speaker 1: This is the we Delivery show. Yes, I've seen a
Speaker 1: little bit of it. Alright, So how this show started
Speaker 1: was started as a web series which I watched. Um,
Speaker 1: I can't remember who sent it to me, but someone
Speaker 1: sent it to me, and I watched the web series.
Speaker 1: There were shorts, Um, I feel like they were about
Speaker 1: six or seven minutes long and just told like one
Speaker 1: little piece of a story. Uh. And then I found
Speaker 1: out it was from husband wife team Ben Sinclair and
Speaker 1: Katcha Blitchfeld. Um. And I'll finish up with their story
Speaker 1: in a second. But they got signed by HBO to
Speaker 1: do the series, and I was super stoked because it's
Speaker 1: just such a good The web shorts were so great
Speaker 1: and um, to be picked up by HBO was just
Speaker 1: obviously a huge, huge deal for them. HBO didn't have
Speaker 1: a habit of picking up random web shows about weed
Speaker 1: delivery guys. Uh. And you know it's that's the easiest
Speaker 1: way to describe it. It's about a weed delivery guy
Speaker 1: in New York City. But it's really not about a
Speaker 1: weed delivery guy. He he happens to do that. It's
Speaker 1: about it's about New York City and the stories of
Speaker 1: the people of New York City. It's a perfect frame
Speaker 1: story for telling that kind of stuff. You know, absolutely
Speaker 1: different different character every episode. You know, seeing the landscape
Speaker 1: as he's biking around, I believe yeah, Uh it is. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's probably the most accurate portrayal of modern New York
Speaker 1: that I've seen because it tells the stories of everyone.
Speaker 1: And that's that. You're right, that's the great thing about
Speaker 1: the weed delivery guy. One episode and in each episode
Speaker 1: now the thirty minute version weaves together two or three
Speaker 1: different stories. Um. So one he might visit a high
Speaker 1: powered um stockbroker in Wall Street, and then he bikes
Speaker 1: over to like a young Cuban girl, uh, in a
Speaker 1: tenement apartment, and all these stories kind of weave together
Speaker 1: somehow a lot of times, and a lot of times
Speaker 1: he is the through line before how they weave together.
Speaker 1: But it's got so much heart and it's real, and
Speaker 1: it can be heartbreaking and sad or funny. Um it's
Speaker 1: just really really awesome. Uh. And the reason I said
Speaker 1: I'll finish up about their marriage. They actually Ben Sinclair,
Speaker 1: who stars in the movie. They don't even name him.
Speaker 1: He's just weird guy or the guy. Uh, and his
Speaker 1: wife was behind the scenes writing and directing along with him.
Speaker 1: They actually got divorced before season two and decided to
Speaker 1: you know, she she they got divorced. She is now
Speaker 1: living with her new girlfriend and they're all friends, and
Speaker 1: he was like, you know that that kind of life happens.
Speaker 1: It was rough, but we have a good thing going
Speaker 1: here with the show, and they decided to keep making
Speaker 1: the show together through season two. Yeah. It's really interesting
Speaker 1: that they can make that work like that, and so
Speaker 1: hats off to them. I'm trying to get Ben Sinclair
Speaker 1: on the show, um and have actually been in touch
Speaker 1: with HBO, and it may be possible. He's The problem is,
Speaker 1: I'm going to New York at the end of February
Speaker 1: and I was trying to land him there, but he's
Speaker 1: in l A through February. UM, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's possible, so I'm gonna make it happen. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's awesome. He just the character that he plays. It's
Speaker 1: just such a sweet guy. Um. He always just wants
Speaker 1: to do right by people in whatever situation he's launched into.
Speaker 1: He always just has a good heart and wants to
Speaker 1: do the right thing. Um. And he's just one of
Speaker 1: one of the beloved characters on TV. To me, it's
Speaker 1: interesting too, because I think people have a perceived idea
Speaker 1: of like what kinds of people by Maryland Yeah or
Speaker 1: Deliver Maryland. Yeah. What you realize in the show is yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's every kind of person. It's every
Speaker 1: kind of person exactly, um and all I mean that
Speaker 1: is certainly not the focus of the show, but yet
Speaker 1: that ends up sort of bleeding through for sure. Uh
Speaker 1: So High Maintenance season two, check out season one, and
Speaker 1: I believe on HBO they had a They have the
Speaker 1: web shorts up there too, and I recommend all of them.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of funny if you watch the web shorts.
Speaker 1: Some of those characters later appear um on various episodes.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it will be like a girlfriend who was
Speaker 1: a girlfriend who later ends up with a different boyfriend
Speaker 1: and he'll be like, wait a minute, didn't I know
Speaker 1: you from the other place? And so It's kind of
Speaker 1: kind of cool how they do that. All right, And
Speaker 1: now we finish with comic card listener mail from you guys,
Speaker 1: and I specifically ask for questions for for me and
Speaker 1: nol on this one. You ready, no, I am? This
Speaker 1: is from Avalon Rector. Great name, very intense name. Reboots.
Speaker 1: Huh what are they good for? Absolutely nothing? Or is
Speaker 1: it just a basic desire to see things we have
Speaker 1: created before through the lens of our new technology. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts, guys, I'll let you go first here.
Speaker 1: I think it just depends on their reboot, right, Like,
Speaker 1: some of them are such obvious cash grabs that you
Speaker 1: can't help it just be offended by it, especially if
Speaker 1: you have like a special place in your heart for
Speaker 1: the original and speaking in generalizations here, um, Like, for example,
Speaker 1: there's The Ocean's eleven reboot that's coming out with all women.
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting and and could be, if handled well,
Speaker 1: a good thing. You know, that franchise is so kind
Speaker 1: of open ended anyway that it's not like a remake.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of like we're gonna resuscitate this concept
Speaker 1: of a group of people doing a heist. I'm all
Speaker 1: about stuff like that. But then if you have like
Speaker 1: you know, uh, for example, there's this Heather's there's a
Speaker 1: Heather's TV show, and it looks like utter trash. It
Speaker 1: just looks it's like this modern reboot of Heathers in
Speaker 1: a TV show form and it looks just like offensive
Speaker 1: and just really crass. And I know the original is
Speaker 1: crass as well, but it's got you know, it's got class,
Speaker 1: it's classy crass, you know, but this just looks really
Speaker 1: really bad. Um. It replaces characters from the originals with
Speaker 1: kind of more modern versions. It just looks like kind
Speaker 1: of a gross glee kind of you know, So that
Speaker 1: bothers me stuff like that, you know. All right, My
Speaker 1: take is, um, I'm kind of throwing remakes and reboots
Speaker 1: into the same bucket, even though I know they're a
Speaker 1: little different. Um, when it comes to like here's our
Speaker 1: third version of Spider Man, it gets a little tiresome
Speaker 1: to me. And that feels like, just hey, let's just
Speaker 1: try and print some money for the studio. Let's not
Speaker 1: be original. Having said that, the latest iteration of Spider
Speaker 1: Man with the young kid is great. I really thought
Speaker 1: it was really good, and that was a lot of
Speaker 1: studio weirdness with like owning the rights and Marvel or whatever.
Speaker 1: Now Marvel has it and they can do whatever they
Speaker 1: want with the characters, So I think that makes sense. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I guess like that middle version with Andrew Garfield, I
Speaker 1: didn't care for it all, So maybe that was the problem.
Speaker 1: Is is just throw those movies out and uh keep
Speaker 1: one and two of Toby McGuire because the third one
Speaker 1: wasn't great. I think they just you're right, like a
Speaker 1: lot of times it feels like a cash grab. We're
Speaker 1: just ill conceived. Like, um, you know one of my
Speaker 1: most beloved movies of all time, the great comedy Arthur
Speaker 1: with Dudley Moore. You know when they remained that with
Speaker 1: Russell Brand I didn't I wouldn't even see it, you know,
Speaker 1: because I knew. I was like, this is not going
Speaker 1: to be good. But is that a remake or a reboot?
Speaker 1: Like as it was that, Like it's a remake, yeah,
Speaker 1: straight up. Remake. Reboots are more about like franchises maybe
Speaker 1: or yeah. I mean they're doing it with TV now
Speaker 1: to like Roseanne comes back or Willing Grace comes back.
Speaker 1: And my whole thing is just there's so many good
Speaker 1: writers out there, so many great ideas. We heard of
Speaker 1: the Blacklist in l A, the list of screenplays that
Speaker 1: don't get Oh no, there's a podcast. No, there's something.
Speaker 1: It's it's been around for years they put it. Uh,
Speaker 1: I can't remember what organization puts it out, But there's
Speaker 1: something called the Blacklist where the best unproduced screenplays each
Speaker 1: year are put on a list. And uh, like they're
Speaker 1: great ideas. They're great original ideas out there. It's not
Speaker 1: like for all of Hollywood's history they had great new
Speaker 1: ideas and then writers just dried up and they couldn't
Speaker 1: do it, so they started remaking everything. It has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with that. So why make Heathers again when
Speaker 1: you can just do another story about high school if
Speaker 1: you want, because it worked once. Well, it's lazy. It's
Speaker 1: studio chiefs and studio heads, uh doing the laziest thing possible.
Speaker 1: That's what I think. Having said that, some of these
Speaker 1: movies can be okay, but um, and I just feel bad.
Speaker 1: There's so many good, great ideas out there that don't
Speaker 1: get made. Just be more original. Great question avalon great
Speaker 1: name uh A number two of three Katherine Williams, What
Speaker 1: is your opinion on. Well, no, we get right back
Speaker 1: into it. What's your opinion on male lead movies being
Speaker 1: turned into all female lead movies like Ghostbusters and Oceans Eight.
Speaker 1: I'll go first on this one. Um, this sort of
Speaker 1: ties in with the reboot in a way I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like, But in these cases, UM, I think is
Speaker 1: so important for especially when you're talking about recasting with
Speaker 1: an all female cast, and so important that the young
Speaker 1: women and girls see these movies and be uh and
Speaker 1: can be represented. Like when I saw some of the
Speaker 1: uh so I can't remember, someone sent me a video
Speaker 1: of the Ghostbusters reaction um from these young girls, and
Speaker 1: it was just amazing to see these girls like uh,
Speaker 1: identifying with these characters finally in a way that they
Speaker 1: couldn't before. And like, I don't see how you can
Speaker 1: watch that and say, like, that's not a good thing.
Speaker 1: I think unfortunately that movie wasn't very good, but that
Speaker 1: it was okay. I saw it with my kid. She
Speaker 1: she liked it. My daughter is nine now and it
Speaker 1: was eight at the time. She she enjoyed it quite
Speaker 1: a lot. Um, it didn't knocker socks off the way
Speaker 1: some things have, but UM, I totally see the good
Speaker 1: behind doing that, but it's also like, let's just to
Speaker 1: your previous point, let's just make more original stories with
Speaker 1: badass female leads. Yeah, well that's true. Um, And here's
Speaker 1: my dirty little secret and stuff you should know. Fans,
Speaker 1: I know that this is largely he's listening. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be so mad at me. I don't think the original
Speaker 1: Ghostbusters was the greatest thing. Whoa whoa gauntlet thrown down?
Speaker 1: Do you love it? I? I I do? I do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I certainly liked it, but when I go back and
Speaker 1: watch it now, it's not the funniest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Like the funniest parts are just Bill Murray goofing around.
Speaker 1: I think their chemistry is really fun great, you know.
Speaker 1: I I enjoyed that, but I haven't seen it in
Speaker 1: a long time, so maybe it won't hold up for me.
Speaker 1: But I know, I mean, I liked it, but it's
Speaker 1: put on this pedestal, like especially the blowback that the
Speaker 1: lady version got from a bunch of dudes. You know,
Speaker 1: they to me, they put Ghostbusts, the original on a
Speaker 1: pedestal that it's like, you know, the the greatest film
Speaker 1: ever made, and how dare put women in those suits
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, come on, man, seriously, put women
Speaker 1: in the suit. Dude, Well do whatever you want, just
Speaker 1: don't make it. Make a good movie, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I think the new Oceans eight looks awesome definitely.
Speaker 1: And is Soderberg involved or they're not, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I bet he's producing in some capacity. I think he did.
Speaker 1: Wret he's directed all of them thus far, I believe,
Speaker 1: I think so. I like that first one a lot.
Speaker 1: That was a good remake, all right. And finally, Matthew Moyle, Um,
Speaker 1: and thanks Catherine for that question. Matthew Moyle, which is
Speaker 1: more important to you in a film? The technical aspects
Speaker 1: like cinematography and editing, or the artistic aspects like plot
Speaker 1: and acting. Uh, Matthew, that is a great question. And
Speaker 1: it's a total cop out because I'm gonna say both
Speaker 1: all of it. Um. The great movie is all of
Speaker 1: those things coming together and holding hands to make a
Speaker 1: great film. Um. The technical aspects like if you're well,
Speaker 1: I was about to say, if you're missing half, then
Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna be a great movie. I will
Speaker 1: say this, A wonderfully technical movie can never be great
Speaker 1: if the what you call artistic aspects are not good great. However,
Speaker 1: if the artistic aspects are great, then you can get
Speaker 1: away with the technical aspects not being as great. At
Speaker 1: case in point, a lot of like really low budget
Speaker 1: indie movies that didn't have a lot to work with,
Speaker 1: they can't make it look like Roger Deakins, Uh, shot
Speaker 1: picture can still be great great movies. Absolutely. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of a quote, uh that I'm in a paraphrase
Speaker 1: from that recent Batshit interview with Quincy Jones. Uh. He
Speaker 1: talks about like, I don't care if you have the
Speaker 1: greatest singer on the planet and the best studio musicians,
Speaker 1: if you don't have a song, you don't have a song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think you can
Speaker 1: apply that to film it. Yeah, you can't. The old saying, um,
Speaker 1: but to me, to make a for all cylinders to
Speaker 1: be firing, that's when you're really cooking with gas. Dad
Speaker 1: used to say, it looks great, sounds great, great acting,
Speaker 1: great story, but it all comes down to that story. Man.
Speaker 1: But like we talked about last week with like the
Speaker 1: that movie Tangerine, you can make a great movie on
Speaker 1: an iPhone and you know, iPhone look pretty good, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's very low low fi by today's standards. But if
Speaker 1: you have the acting in the story, the technical stuff
Speaker 1: is a little less important kind of Ye. Well, Chuck,
Speaker 1: what is on the docket for Friday's episode? Are you
Speaker 1: talking about the homework assignment whatever you want to call it? Man,
Speaker 1: I don't know your code words. Yeah, homework. Everybody this
Speaker 1: week is to watch well, good for you, it's to
Speaker 1: watch Waiting for Guffman. That's homework on mind giving out,
Speaker 1: And then you have to read Waiting for Good dough
Speaker 1: and write a report and submitted via email to movie
Speaker 1: crush dot com right to make it real homework. Uh
Speaker 1: that yeah, Waiting for Government The Great Christopher Guest mocumentary UM,
Speaker 1: which hopefully everybody has seen, if not, to just get
Speaker 1: ready because it's one of the great great funny movies
Speaker 1: of all time. And I had in New York City,
Speaker 1: the Wonderful and Charming Brook Adams of Invasion of the
Speaker 1: Body Snatchers and The Dead Zone and Days of Heaven
Speaker 1: and some of like the great movies of the seventies
Speaker 1: and eighties, Classic Pictures and Tony Schlub's Wife. So it's
Speaker 1: no surprise why she was in there. I recorded them
Speaker 1: back to back. Very well done, Chuck. Yeah so watch
Speaker 1: Waiting for Guffman coming up this Friday with Brooke Adams
Speaker 1: and we appreciate you guys tuning in this week for
Speaker 1: the Mini Crush. Thanks a lot, see yea