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Speaker 1: talk to interest in people about what brings them happiness.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: My guest is I've got to be honest, he's probably
Speaker 1: cooler than you. But to be fair, he's very much
Speaker 1: cooler than me, which I realize is not a high bar.
Speaker 1: But he's a very cool guy. Please welcome, Sung Kang.
Speaker 2: Are you friends with Jay Lena? I would say, well,
Speaker 2: I might admire.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been on this show in his garage. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not like I go to his house in Hipdner.
Speaker 2: No, it does that Jay? Is he? If you did
Speaker 2: have dinner with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know he he never has hot like it
Speaker 1: was like he's fiercely against soup, is he?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It's weird.
Speaker 1: I think he's some weird stuff going on.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about soup?
Speaker 3: I don't like soup either, really, yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't like hot food, like.
Speaker 2: Dude, you're Korean.
Speaker 3: Like there's a little slicy food, right, like soup, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's I don't.
Speaker 1: But there are soups involved in Korea. Cusine, there's there's
Speaker 1: a whole soup area, lots of souper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, avoided. I like cold. I like the cold noodles, right,
Speaker 2: but but hot soup soup is is like that's Polish
Speaker 2: and stuff. You're you're crossing the streams.
Speaker 3: And you know, Polish has a lot a lot of
Speaker 3: similarities to Korean food.
Speaker 2: Actually really yeah, how does that work? Have you been
Speaker 2: to Poland? Have you spent time? No? But my wife's
Speaker 2: background history is Polish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just spent some time in Poland.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: A lot of their food is pickled, that's right, fermented, Yeah, fermented.
Speaker 1: She's always een pickles all the time.
Speaker 3: They love beef tongue, they love beef tartar. Right, I
Speaker 3: can see you're kind of right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also Koreans drink a lot too, though, don't they.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Koreans are like they used to say
Speaker 1: this is probably very no okay to say this not
Speaker 1: but they used to say the Koreans are the Irish
Speaker 1: of Europe Asia.
Speaker 2: Koreans, I've heard that, like literate drunks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't like outsiders, right, and they don't like
Speaker 3: each other much either.
Speaker 2: That sounds like they might be scot then. But let'st
Speaker 2: the a lot of your family still in Korea. Uh,
Speaker 2: my mother is in Korea.
Speaker 1: I thought you were brought up in uh in California
Speaker 1: or Georgia.
Speaker 2: Georgia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so after I graduated high school, right, she decided
Speaker 3: to go back. Oh yeah, she came here for you know,
Speaker 3: the kids like me, to give me the American dream, right,
Speaker 3: But she always felt like she did feel like a
Speaker 3: second class citizen. Really, yeah, I mean, and you know
Speaker 3: she growing up in the South during the seventies and
Speaker 3: the eighties, you know, opportunities for her to work, like
Speaker 3: you know, she was my mother, like was cleaning toilets
Speaker 3: like a housekeeper. But you know, she felt like, hey,
Speaker 3: she did her she did her duty. She gave her
Speaker 3: kids opportunity to dream, right, or maybe opportunities that we
Speaker 3: wouldn't have had if we were in Korea at you know,
Speaker 3: living there in the seventies. Yeah, and so she felt like, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, I want to go back, and you know,
Speaker 3: you know, with friends and have friends.
Speaker 2: I think I went by to Scotland, didn't. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: I went back to Scotland like five or six years ago.
Speaker 1: I kind of moved back there and then I'd been
Speaker 1: there for like five or six years, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's enough, Mary pay. Yeah, I did go back for
Speaker 1: a while. I think I don't know what you get
Speaker 1: to kind of call for. I don't know you kind
Speaker 1: of go back, would you ever? But you grew up
Speaker 1: in America, so it would be different for you. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: think about going to Korea.
Speaker 3: I tried, you know, you know when I when I
Speaker 3: was like in my twenties, I said, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: I could go back there and there'd be more opportunities
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: As an actor. Right, Okay.
Speaker 3: I went back and and my crean's not that good.
Speaker 3: So I speak like Korean like a maybe like an
Speaker 3: eight year old, right, So I have an accent when
Speaker 3: I speak Korean, and they know that I'm from America.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, it's kind of yeah, it's like if you
Speaker 3: spoke Korean, I sound like you, right, Because I went.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine, we went out to Mexico and
Speaker 1: he speaks really good Spanish, but you learned it in Spain.
Speaker 1: So when you go out to Mexico and you speak Spanish, Spanish,
Speaker 1: Castilian Spanish, to Mexicans, it sounds like you said, good afternoon,
Speaker 1: how very very moveless lovely to see you. There's like
Speaker 1: you sound super polish or something like that. Very strange.
Speaker 1: So is that the kind of vibe. I guess it
Speaker 1: would be languages language.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then men in Korea they say that I
Speaker 3: sound like a woman because okay, you know, there's a
Speaker 3: certain way of speaking, like informal and formal away female
Speaker 3: would speak, right and a male would speak. And I've
Speaker 3: been taught how to speak Korean by women, my mother
Speaker 3: and my wife. Right, So I sound like.
Speaker 1: You know, in these times, that's okay, and that's cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder how languages that have a lot
Speaker 1: of gender identity in them. I wonder if they're COVID,
Speaker 1: because gender identity is like changing.
Speaker 3: It has Yeah, I don't know if it's changing in
Speaker 3: Korea yet.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know, to be I'll be honest with yeah,
Speaker 1: I know really nothing about Korea. Yeah, probably do you
Speaker 1: know much about Scotland. No, okay, so we're even that's fine.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you about Scotland, you tell me about Korea, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So when we're Korea is probably recent stuff is like
Speaker 1: the split in the country that plays under the Irish
Speaker 1: thing as well, I suppose, isn't it North and South
Speaker 1: split by someone else causes a lot of problems later on?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have any relatives in the North?
Speaker 2: Well, we are from the North.
Speaker 3: We are originally my my especially my mother's side, they're
Speaker 3: all North Korean, all right, So she and then during
Speaker 3: the war she left, right, and so that's why she
Speaker 3: grew up so poor because they were North Koreans. And
Speaker 3: then they came to the South the w they knew
Speaker 3: no one, so they had to start over in Seoul.
Speaker 3: And you know, so they are North Korean blood and
Speaker 3: our food. So the food that she makes for the
Speaker 3: Korean food that I grew up with would be considered
Speaker 3: North Korean cuisine, right, like like Polish Korean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a lot of yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: So listen, did they were your parents like really into
Speaker 1: you being an actor? Because that that kind of look,
Speaker 1: it's a stereotype. I thought like for I'm an immigrant,
Speaker 1: and I don't want my kids to be actors. I
Speaker 1: want them to be like you know, CPAs, CPS, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the well, the art conversation was not something that
Speaker 3: we had at home.
Speaker 2: You know. It was it was survival.
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, my and I had I
Speaker 3: have a stepfather, so you know, he was in the military.
Speaker 3: He was like, you know, master sergeant, and you know,
Speaker 3: he was very by the book and you know, very
Speaker 3: strict in the way. You know, he felt like a
Speaker 3: young man had to grow up. And he worked, you know,
Speaker 3: he had he worked like two three jobs, right. My mother, uh,
Speaker 3: she you know, was cleaning dishes and yeah, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, her mind was like i gotta like send
Speaker 3: my kids to college. I'm going to have this money.
Speaker 3: I'm going to you know, save some money. So they
Speaker 3: have opportunities to talk about, hey, I want to be
Speaker 3: an actor.
Speaker 2: It's like crazy talk. It is.
Speaker 1: It was where I grew up as well, Like I'm
Speaker 1: going to be in show business. It's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be an astronaut. It's like no, yeah, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're going to go and want the shipyards like everybody else.
Speaker 1: So did you go to college?
Speaker 2: I did? So? What did you study a college?
Speaker 1: Political science? I was going to be on political scientist? Right,
Speaker 1: what is the outcome for a political science degree?
Speaker 2: Normally? What's the goal from that? You go to law school?
Speaker 2: You go to law school and become a lawyer. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: you don't want to do that. No, you're way too
Speaker 2: cool to be a lawyer. Wow. Yeah No, even if
Speaker 2: they're cool. Defenders are pretty still lawyers, though, aren't they.
Speaker 2: I mean, underneath it all, they're still lawyers.
Speaker 1: I guess public defenders, right, yeah, but I'm thinking in
Speaker 1: LA terms, I guess, but there are public defenders in LA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. So you squandered your law degree? That did
Speaker 1: you finish?
Speaker 2: Did you get a law degree? Now? You left? I never, well,
Speaker 2: I wanted.
Speaker 3: I knew that I was going to be unhappy doing that, right,
Speaker 3: And during the summer I was moving furniture for like
Speaker 3: a like aid and my buddy that was kind of
Speaker 3: like an older brother mentor. He was the first Asian
Speaker 3: dude that I ever met that loved films and talked
Speaker 3: about films and he knew the universal studios like tour Monologue.
Speaker 3: The dude at the tram that tells you like, yeah.
Speaker 2: I went and when I first came here, everybody he knew.
Speaker 3: That monologue by heart, just because he loved movies and
Speaker 3: loved you know, the whole you know, like pop culture aspect,
Speaker 3: and and we would go watch films together and he
Speaker 3: would open the door for me to go, hey, there's
Speaker 3: there's you know, this art house film and there's this
Speaker 3: like Asian American dude, like he's the lead, Like you could,
Speaker 3: let's go, let's go watch it. And you know it's like,
Speaker 3: I mean, you should be inspired, like there's opportunities.
Speaker 2: So who were you watching at that time?
Speaker 3: At that time, I remember, so I was moving furniture.
Speaker 3: And then one day Roy Siaka is my buddy. He goes, hey,
Speaker 3: there's this movie called Map of the Human Heart. It's
Speaker 3: a French movie with this actor Jason Scott Lee from Hawaii, Okay,
Speaker 3: Chinese American. He eventually ended up playing the Bruce Lee
Speaker 3: biopic The Dragon.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, the name man. I have
Speaker 1: heard of that movie as well, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in Jungle Book.
Speaker 3: He was a universal soldier. He had you know, he
Speaker 3: had a pretty good career and we went to go
Speaker 3: watch this film and I see this dude, Asian American guy,
Speaker 3: not doing kungfort, not having an accent, not you know,
Speaker 3: being a gangster, not being one dimensional. I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: it was three dimensional. And I was like, I got
Speaker 3: to go find this dude. So came back until I
Speaker 3: hunted him down.
Speaker 2: The actor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, where did he go and study?
Speaker 3: How did he become who he became? So then I
Speaker 3: found his teacher, sal Romeo, this Italian guy from the
Speaker 3: East Coast, very method based, very actors studio based, and
Speaker 3: I studied with him, you know, for like ten years,
Speaker 3: and he's up the street. He's like the most fearless
Speaker 3: and he had a theater company, so we were allowed
Speaker 3: to go up and just do experimental theater and just
Speaker 3: try just fall on your face and fall on your face.
Speaker 3: And he taught us camera technique. He just he just
Speaker 3: had and he had like every book acting book that
Speaker 3: was ever made. And he was accessible, you know, he
Speaker 3: was like a guru. He was a mentor with Sell
Speaker 3: Sell the actors.
Speaker 1: Pell that's amazing. And so when you got into acting,
Speaker 1: then you talked about method. Is that something that is
Speaker 1: practical to do? I mean I know very little about,
Speaker 1: you know, method acting, but I think I kind of
Speaker 1: a layman's idea that you know, like you stay in
Speaker 1: character all the time, you know, is that right?
Speaker 3: Well, with sales approach was like you take what works
Speaker 3: for you, you know, and if you want to do that, right,
Speaker 3: But then the character is like a heroin junkie.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you don't want to be taking Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know, if the characters like a pedophile, I probably probably
Speaker 3: don't want Like if you're playing cannibal, cannibal, you probably
Speaker 3: shouldn't eat people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there is a certain amount of pretended invauld Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's mostly pretending to fights overtect.
Speaker 2: It's all yeah, and you gotta have fun. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He would say, Hey, it's called the play for a reason.
Speaker 3: That's cool, right, He's like a cool guy. The coolest
Speaker 3: is he still around. He's actually really sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that's the end of that era. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's real. It's unfortunate because there are so many young
Speaker 3: actors and actresses that could have benefited from having sal around. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I remember, like, you know, I cannot afford to
Speaker 3: pay for the classes and stuff that he had right,
Speaker 3: And I said, sal, you know, like I can't really
Speaker 3: afford all this stuff. And he's he was the type
Speaker 3: of duty. He's like a character out of the movie.
Speaker 3: He goes, well, hey, so you want to come seven
Speaker 3: days a week, because it was he kind of ran
Speaker 3: a conservatory, right, so right movement, and you know, and
Speaker 3: it's Donald Slavsky, there's Strawsberry. There's chair work, there's you know,
Speaker 3: substitution work, there's you know, there's I'm gonna work, there's
Speaker 3: voice work, there's you know, there's always something to do,
Speaker 3: right improfer And he said, well, hey, you want to
Speaker 3: just clean the studio and you know, run lights at
Speaker 3: the place, and you can wash my car. You know,
Speaker 3: if an actor or actress needs like somebody to read
Speaker 3: read for the audition, you come in and you do
Speaker 3: that and you can come every day.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And so he's the reason or people like that, or
Speaker 3: the reason that I was able to kind.
Speaker 1: Of and yeah, I know I got help like that
Speaker 1: from a bunch of different Actually one of them was
Speaker 1: a lawyer. Knows I think about it when I go here. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I turned out pretty much like you. I didn't
Speaker 1: have you know, I had no connections I didn't know anybody.
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, And I met this lawyer. We
Speaker 1: go to talk and he's still my lawyer.
Speaker 2: Uh. And they said, uh, he said, we'll take you on.
Speaker 1: This guy's like heavy hair, he's like some massive names,
Speaker 1: like huge, like icon level clients.
Speaker 2: They said, I'll be a lawyer. I said, I don't
Speaker 2: have any money. He said, yeah, I gotta feel it.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: And he's still my lawyer. And you know, I've made
Speaker 1: him a bit of money over the years. But he
Speaker 1: took me on just kind of like it'll work out.
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things I do
Speaker 1: love about show business is that there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people like that and that it can work as a plan,
Speaker 1: like something will turn up, like did you have did
Speaker 1: you have a career plan in mind? Or you just
Speaker 1: like I just want to act, I just want to
Speaker 1: do it, or I want to do a specific thing.
Speaker 1: I want to be that guy in Fast and Furious franchise.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be that and that's what I want
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I had no plan, but I knew
Speaker 3: growing up. I did not want to leave, you know, invisible.
Speaker 3: I did not want to carry on my mom's like
Speaker 3: legacy of feeling like, you know, you're second class citizen
Speaker 3: in this country.
Speaker 2: You don't feel like that. I did not know. I
Speaker 2: think that was in times have changed, right, right. Did
Speaker 2: you feel like that growing up when you're for sure?
Speaker 2: Oh really? Yeah? Yeah, you felt you got hit with
Speaker 2: racism a lot and stuff. Yeah, I mean that was
Speaker 2: just that's just a norm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it wasn't something like remember there was
Speaker 3: like this Asian hate thing that was happening in the.
Speaker 2: News, right, Yeah, I remember, and there's still a bit
Speaker 2: of it, you know.
Speaker 3: There was something that was just normal for us going
Speaker 3: up in George, in the South. I mean yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just it was just the way it was, you know,
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, maybe that's what kind of
Speaker 3: motivated me to go, Okay, I need to leave something behind. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I need to I need to like leave my mark,
Speaker 3: like I got to pits on this earth, and then
Speaker 3: then I got I can go right.
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Speaker 2: What about writing? Did you ever write?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I write I right now, that's the next evolution
Speaker 3: of my career is that I would love to really,
Speaker 3: you know, explore more opportunities as an actor as a director.
Speaker 3: I think I think I found the other thing that
Speaker 3: I could be content with doing is directing directly.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because that's a very specific mindset. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I directed one I heard. Yeah, I did not care
Speaker 1: for it. Why, well, I don't know. I can't really
Speaker 1: explain it. I've had a conversations with a couple of directors.
Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino, I was talking to you about that very thing,
Speaker 1: and I said I didn't like doing it, and he
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't understand why a person wouldn't love directing,
Speaker 1: because of course he lives for it, you know.
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: And he asked me a question, he said, did you
Speaker 1: have the movie in your head before you started? And
Speaker 1: I said yeah, and you went, well, that's that's why
Speaker 1: you're not a director. And it's like, okay, so do
Speaker 1: you have that do you have? Like, say, I know
Speaker 1: exactly how I want to see it. I know exactly
Speaker 1: how I want to feel when I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1: I want to know how the I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: don't know if all directors have this, but I certainly don't.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel.
Speaker 3: That right, I think, Wait, maybe it's like uh, writer directors, right,
Speaker 3: so you write the script. So as you're writing it,
Speaker 3: you you have the vision, right, you see how it's
Speaker 3: going to play out. You see how the words are
Speaker 3: going to be delivered. Your words are going to be delivered.
Speaker 2: You understand the message, the why behind yeah film?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, But I mean, look, I I mean I
Speaker 1: know not but me. But I wrote this film and
Speaker 1: I directed this film, and I'm in this film, and I.
Speaker 2: Don't like it. I don't like it now. I feel
Speaker 2: like it didn't turn out the way I wanted it
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of pressure from like there was
Speaker 1: and this is where I made my big mistake casting
Speaker 1: you cast the wrong And what I did is I
Speaker 1: cast myself the film and that was that was.
Speaker 2: Really fucking Why did you do that? Why? Because because
Speaker 2: it was arrogant.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna write it, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to direct it, and I'm gonna be in it, and
Speaker 1: it was fine to write it and directed, but I
Speaker 1: think being in it, yea was was a real piece
Speaker 1: of vanity that that really blew up in my face.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that because I can concentrate on
Speaker 1: what I was doing. I also had a motorcycle accident
Speaker 1: during the shoot, and I think it knocked my concentration
Speaker 1: a bit because I broke my collar bone in three ReBs.
Speaker 2: But we didn't stop filming. I'm not good with what
Speaker 2: was the movie about.
Speaker 1: It was about a rock star who like comes out
Speaker 1: of a drug canes and finds he's a teenage daughter
Speaker 1: he didn't know about, and it was like his kind
Speaker 1: of connection.
Speaker 2: Back to her and and her mother and what happened
Speaker 2: and stuff like that is a kind of sweet, little
Speaker 2: light comedy thing that was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was okay, it was It was a better
Speaker 1: script than it was a movie, and that's what That's
Speaker 1: what I thought, Well, I can't be a director because
Speaker 1: it was a good script. But but I couldn't get
Speaker 1: and I remember, actually, you know, when I think about.
Speaker 2: It, I read the script to the movie Braveheart, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't get it. To get this
Speaker 2: movie at all.
Speaker 1: But when I saw the movie, I went, Wow, that's great,
Speaker 1: and I think that's mel Gibson's a really good director
Speaker 1: and I think he saw he knew what he was
Speaker 1: looking at and he could do it. So you write,
Speaker 1: you're gonna write movies? Yeah, So what kind of stuff
Speaker 1: are you writing? What do you want to write?
Speaker 2: What do you do? Well?
Speaker 3: I wrote a show, a TV show that we're moving on,
Speaker 3: We're moving forward with Okay, my gratulations, my childhood in
Speaker 3: the South, growing up with biracial parents, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's like a half hour family comedy that I wrote.
Speaker 2: And then I.
Speaker 3: Have two features that I'm almost ready to go and shoot.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. But that's it still takes over your life.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but it's something that you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know what else I would be doing fair enough,
Speaker 3: you know. It's like I wake up, I do it,
Speaker 3: you know, and so I work a couple of hours
Speaker 3: in the morning and then a couple hours before I
Speaker 3: go to bed, so I like, you know, bookends like
Speaker 3: the day like right with this creative you know, you know, journey,
Speaker 3: and it just gives me because you know, I'm being
Speaker 3: an actor. Man, it can suck it's like the worst
Speaker 3: because you're waiting for somebody to call you and go, hey,
Speaker 3: you're good enough, and you get there and it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, you can put your heart into it, you
Speaker 3: can put your passion into it, and then it could
Speaker 3: turn out to just be.
Speaker 1: Junk or or you're not even in it. Yeah they
Speaker 1: yeah you got cut out. Yeah I've been. I've had
Speaker 1: that couple of times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Yeah. It was like, wait, was all
Speaker 2: that ship that I did? I just bought a TV
Speaker 2: or I did that? Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: I remember when I first met I was buying a
Speaker 1: house and the real this realtor said I've got a job,
Speaker 1: and the reeltor said to me, don't buy it has
Speaker 1: no wait till look Tober.
Speaker 2: And I said why October? He said, that's when series
Speaker 2: start to get canceled.
Speaker 1: The actors who have bought houses start to have to.
Speaker 2: Sell their houses. Oh that's so dark dark, Yeah it is,
Speaker 2: But I did it too. I just the show that
Speaker 2: was then stayed on.
Speaker 1: I did the Drew Carry Show for like ten years,
Speaker 1: and that was my ticket in that was like like
Speaker 1: that sitcom.
Speaker 2: Those were different times though there was a multi camera
Speaker 2: sitcom thing. Yeah, did you ever work with Jetly? I did?
Speaker 2: I thought you did. I thought you did.
Speaker 3: What was some movie called War? So it was Jason
Speaker 3: Stadium and Jently?
Speaker 1: Right, because I remember having Gently on the Late night
Speaker 1: show and I had this thing where I was talking
Speaker 1: to him, and you know, he's quite a small guy,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking as I was talking.
Speaker 2: To thought, this is he's a really small guy.
Speaker 1: I wonder if I could And then my brain went,
Speaker 1: I wonder how many other guys thought that just before
Speaker 1: they went to hospital? You know what I mean, He's
Speaker 1: a pretty small guy. I could probably do. Were you
Speaker 1: ever drawn into that? That world, the martial arts world
Speaker 1: directly that because it's so like Asian actors are meant
Speaker 1: to do or or where meant to or that's where
Speaker 1: the work was.
Speaker 2: Were you pulled into that?
Speaker 3: That's why it's deliberately stayed away from it.
Speaker 2: Good for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was good for me.
Speaker 3: It was definitely in a good feeling. It's making it,
Speaker 3: it's making up it's made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: But I mean I did the same as well about
Speaker 1: you know, playing certain Scottish things. But you establish your individuality,
Speaker 1: establish her you are and I've talked to people about
Speaker 1: it before. It's like you kind of make a decision going,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to do that. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to go that way. What about the driving thing though?
Speaker 2: When you do?
Speaker 1: Those movies are insane. I have two boys, so I
Speaker 1: grew up and I've seen.
Speaker 2: Them all a lot. I've seen you a lot in
Speaker 2: the movies, and you can drive. Is that you driving? Right? No? What? No?
Speaker 2: That's not you drive? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, First look, you have you have to give
Speaker 3: credit to all these amazing stunt drivers that I like,
Speaker 3: none of us are doing that, so it doesn't make
Speaker 3: any sense. Like it's like, you know, we are actors,
Speaker 3: right and that those type of Stunts's like you dedicate
Speaker 3: your whole life to do something like that, Like that
Speaker 3: is not something they didn't.
Speaker 1: Even like put you on in like an advanced driving course.
Speaker 1: Sure you did that, yeah yeah yeah. Can you drift
Speaker 1: a car? Yeah yeah, but not like that, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: just to be saying yes I.
Speaker 2: Can, yeah, well you can.
Speaker 3: You can learn an hour really yeah yeah, it's not
Speaker 3: that difficult. You just have the right teacher, you have
Speaker 3: like an open track, and you have the right car,
Speaker 3: Like if you got like a Nissan three fifty es
Speaker 3: like the easiest car to drift, and then somebody can
Speaker 3: just teach you. You know, it's like it's not that difficult.
Speaker 1: Do you ever do it like like in La just
Speaker 1: like watch this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I mean I mean in the same area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I understand differently, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's cool.
Speaker 2: But you are you a car guy though? You am? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you do you have like a
Speaker 1: giant shed like Jay with phil of I.
Speaker 3: Don't have a Carleno collection, but I do have a
Speaker 3: few cars. Yeah, yeah, I was today, I was just
Speaker 3: working on a nineteen seventy one to forty z at thoughts,
Speaker 3: and I'm in love with this car. Correct, Lally, I
Speaker 3: sell this way about a car, about a car before
Speaker 3: any or anything or anyone. You get a dog, yeah
Speaker 3: I got dogs? Yeah, wife, like.
Speaker 2: You have human connections with this car. I understand.
Speaker 3: Like I go before I go to bed, like I
Speaker 3: go out there and today even like I was, I
Speaker 3: was like, I think I'm gonna end up being late
Speaker 3: because I was just I put I put this carburetor
Speaker 3: heat shield. My friend in San Jose he specializes in
Speaker 3: these and he makes these parts of the car garage.
Speaker 3: And he sent me this heat shield because carburetor is
Speaker 3: overheat and there's like this vapor the gas starts to boil.
Speaker 3: So these old cars and they've all all had like
Speaker 3: heating issue or they have heating issues. And I put
Speaker 3: that on. And there's something about just touching, you know,
Speaker 3: these car parts.
Speaker 2: Like we don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3: Like I can't get anyvan over. It's like a you know, hybrid.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever opened the hood.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you smell the gas and then you look
Speaker 3: at the stance and you know, the car took about
Speaker 3: three and a half years to completely like you know,
Speaker 3: get mechanically running. So it's at my house and finally
Speaker 3: I'm like touching it every day, you know, and it's
Speaker 3: this like relationship.
Speaker 2: Like I talked to her, it's like a her. Oh
Speaker 2: it's her right.
Speaker 3: It's like she's constantly going, hey, come over and like,
Speaker 3: you know, hang out with me.
Speaker 2: I need this.
Speaker 3: This this is about to break.
Speaker 2: So that's well.
Speaker 1: I have a car like that too, just but I
Speaker 1: don't have many cars, but I have one car that.
Speaker 2: I like, Wow, that spit special? Is that it's a
Speaker 2: Morgan Plus four. Are you familiar with Morgan's.
Speaker 3: I don't know the Plus four.
Speaker 1: Well, it's basically just a two seater little British racing
Speaker 1: green Oh oh my god. And it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: two layers of engine and just nothing else.
Speaker 2: Just seats, two layers and go fast. What yours this car?
Speaker 1: It's mid nineties, but it looks it's a real kind
Speaker 1: of it's a real ratural.
Speaker 2: Look a Morgan. It's like it looks like it's from
Speaker 2: the thirties. Oh, it has that real kind of like.
Speaker 1: And it's still I think it's the last, certainly in Britain.
Speaker 1: It's the last, you know, privately owned car company.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It's there's a lot of wood in there, right yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they make the chass wood wood right Yeah. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's that's a piece of art.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: And and sometimes I'll go I have it in because
Speaker 1: the weather's bad in Britain, even in the garage. I
Speaker 1: have it in something called a carcoon, which is like
Speaker 1: a it's like this big kind of see through plastic
Speaker 1: tent and you hook it up to the outlet and
Speaker 1: there's a dehumidifier, so it just like drives up the
Speaker 1: air all around the car. So it sits inside this
Speaker 1: little pod and inside the garage, and I go in
Speaker 1: and look at it in the pod, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's so clean looking, and if you open the air
Speaker 1: vent you can smell the oil coming out of there.
Speaker 1: I got kind of kick out of it. So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I understand, Yeah, you know it's British
Speaker 1: green is it's that's such a classy It's the greatest,
Speaker 1: greatest thing. So how did you get in the cars
Speaker 1: when you were a kid. Was that a thing down
Speaker 1: in Georgia?
Speaker 2: It was something that I grew up.
Speaker 3: I had a neighbor who let me hang out with
Speaker 3: him in his garage, this old Korean war vett. Okay,
Speaker 3: he and his wife never had kids. He looked like,
Speaker 3: you know, James Dean meets the fawns, like you know, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Like pomade, yeah, and the hair thing and then.
Speaker 3: White, you know, wear white T shirts and like roll.
Speaker 2: Up with the crete. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's always listening to like Beach Boys or something, and
Speaker 3: he was always working on this sixty three impalla. It's
Speaker 3: like this pearl with red and tear converted and he
Speaker 3: was restoring it, and so you would let me hang
Speaker 3: out with them and ask them all these stupid questions,
Speaker 3: right like why why do you got to do that?
Speaker 3: Why don't we put like thunderbolts in the car? And
Speaker 3: he's like, oh, yeam son, it's like back to factory
Speaker 3: and this is an SS and like what is that?
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, super sport, this is you know,
Speaker 3: like we're caretakers of these, you know, of history.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, it's not wrong, you know, because
Speaker 1: it's our, you know, and it is our. I think
Speaker 1: that because I want a couple of things that are
Speaker 1: you know, artie and I think you know, and some
Speaker 1: of them are quite old.
Speaker 2: My god, well it's only.
Speaker 1: Mineful now, yeah, you know, it's not like I own
Speaker 1: it and it'll always be mine. I'll be mine until
Speaker 1: I'm done and then it'll be someone else's. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, I don't know, I do quite
Speaker 1: like the vibe of that. Are you drawn to other
Speaker 1: forms of a static art as a fan, like paintings or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I paint to you do? What do you paint? Flowers?
Speaker 2: You paint in oils?
Speaker 3: Anything, acrylic, you know, like crayon.
Speaker 1: So artistic. I feel kind of embarrassed. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, you know.
Speaker 2: It's just a d A d HD.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, you think that. Yeah, It's just I
Speaker 3: gotta I gotta be gott to be doing something. There
Speaker 3: has to be something coming out of me. Like in
Speaker 3: the morning, I have this notebook at at the breakfast table,
Speaker 3: and I'll just start writing stuff.
Speaker 1: I'll start drawing something that's really cool. Right, what about music?
Speaker 1: Does music do it for you as well?
Speaker 3: I've never been musically inclined. I've tried. My mother tried
Speaker 3: to get me to play the cello. I've tried to
Speaker 3: learn how to play the guitar and the piano. But
Speaker 3: something it doesn't click with me, you know like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I mean, I appreciate it, like I of course, when
Speaker 3: I see someone play like a piano or guitar outside,
Speaker 3: like let's say at the airport or like let's say
Speaker 3: at that you know, like like straight performers, those are
Speaker 3: the people that move me because they're there for passion. Yes, right,
Speaker 3: you know, they might make a few bucks in the
Speaker 3: hat or something, but I'm like, you're out here and
Speaker 3: you see their face, it's like they love this is
Speaker 3: who they are.
Speaker 2: They do right.
Speaker 3: Without it, they're gonna die, right. This is their fertilizers,
Speaker 3: this is their water. And I trip out and I
Speaker 3: just absorb and I'm like, God, they are so passionate.
Speaker 3: It's inspiring as a human being. Like you aren't out
Speaker 3: here because you love this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think they're see I know what
Speaker 1: I have in my life that does that for me.
Speaker 2: What's that stand up? No doubt?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like when I when I do stand up, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't get paid for doing stand up.
Speaker 2: I get paid to go to your town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, once I'm there, the stand up is free, but
Speaker 1: you got to pay me to go there. But once
Speaker 1: I get on stage, it's for nothing. And I get
Speaker 1: a sense of you know, I'm where the universe would
Speaker 1: have me be. And it gives me a say, it's
Speaker 1: a peace when I'm doing it. I know I'm good
Speaker 1: at it. I know that I that I'm meant to
Speaker 1: be doing. I just get to see a feeling of
Speaker 1: well being. Is that something that you get from writing?
Speaker 1: Is it something you get from being an actor? Is
Speaker 1: it like because I've heard actors talk about on a
Speaker 1: movie set sometimes they get that kind of feeling, you
Speaker 1: know that just gonna I'm where I'm meant to be.
Speaker 1: I understand everything, how it all works. It's all fine.
Speaker 3: I I think after that, after the Fast and Furious movies, right,
Speaker 3: and the the I guess the impact that the character
Speaker 3: han that I play, and.
Speaker 2: It's a legacy character.
Speaker 1: No matter what you do in your life, you it
Speaker 1: will always be in there somewhere, so they'll always talk about. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think when I, you know, after a few years
Speaker 3: of you know, being in that film and then you know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, going around in America or you know,
Speaker 3: wherever I'm traveling, and you see what that franchise is
Speaker 3: like how it affects people. And I really dismissed it.
Speaker 3: I discredit I'm like, ah, it's the movie about cars,
Speaker 3: like who Cares? Just the popcorn flick like who Cares?
Speaker 3: And then after Paul Walker passed away, Yeah, I realized
Speaker 3: you felt like you were like, Wow, these movies actually
Speaker 3: mean something because you know, father and children, they went
Speaker 3: to these films, they grew up together.
Speaker 2: And one of them, right, yeah, and and.
Speaker 3: There are all these shared experiences around this film. I
Speaker 3: was like, I guess this is what I was meant
Speaker 3: to be doing. You know, it's like and certainly.
Speaker 2: Part of it. Yeah, it's and I and I think
Speaker 2: owning it like that, it's good. I think that.
Speaker 1: I think it's the same of maturity as an artist,
Speaker 1: when you go, I was wrong about this and.
Speaker 2: It actually is is important. Yeah. Do you ever see
Speaker 2: a movie called Sullivan's Travels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when he's like, you know, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to make selly comedies anymore.
Speaker 2: I want to make important movies.
Speaker 1: And then when he goes to that big tent and
Speaker 1: he sees everyone laughing at that, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, it's it's like it's important to
Speaker 1: bring whatever you can.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I asked most people. That's just because
Speaker 1: I went through it with the drugs and alcohol and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Do you ever go through that?
Speaker 3: No, I can't drink, first of all. But I did
Speaker 3: have a lot of problems with cigarettes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: But see, I think with cigarettes, if you there's no
Speaker 1: nobody smokes cigarettes and it doesn't die problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the cigarettes represent just me being in a
Speaker 3: bad place, me being like the press, me being anxious,
Speaker 3: me being insecure. Right, And I think if I wasn't
Speaker 3: allergic to alcohol, like I literally am allergic to alcoholic Yeah,
Speaker 3: me too, But you can drink past I mean no, no,
Speaker 3: no, no no, Like I started, like, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: I can't break down the alcohol.
Speaker 2: My mother was exactly the same. Yeah, so I became
Speaker 2: an alcoholic. Really yeah, my mother was exactly the same.
Speaker 1: She would like break out in this she ever tried it,
Speaker 1: she would get this huge rash and is that that's.
Speaker 2: What happens to me? So then then I gets sick.
Speaker 3: So I but I feel like if I could drink,
Speaker 3: I probably would have, like, you know, had some serious issues.
Speaker 1: You've got that vibe, if you don't mind me saying, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got to kind of well would see.
Speaker 2: I like people who have got that vibe. I kind
Speaker 2: of like you. And I think you.
Speaker 1: Have that kind of thoughtful, kind of troubled kind of
Speaker 1: searcher anything. And I think that's a are you a
Speaker 1: religious person? You know about any kind of spirituality thing?
Speaker 2: Spirituality?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's I think it's kind of like
Speaker 3: a concoction I kind of created on my own of
Speaker 3: what that means to me. Like even prayer, Yeah, like
Speaker 3: you know, I always thought prayer was like you pray
Speaker 3: to God and ask from you, ask for a thing,
Speaker 3: and it really is yeah, it's not right.
Speaker 2: And then you know.
Speaker 3: These days like I pray like you know, like, oh,
Speaker 3: but I go, it's not praying and asking for something.
Speaker 3: It's actually just you know, expressing gratitude.
Speaker 1: That's a great prayer if you can get into that,
Speaker 1: that's I think gratitude for anyone, if you can find
Speaker 1: it in yourself, is a magic bullet, especially for some
Speaker 1: like depression or I'm not talking about clinical depression.
Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. I don't know how to deal
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: But like the down feeling that that that's not inside
Speaker 1: that that kind of pathological spectrum, I think you gratitude
Speaker 1: can really.
Speaker 2: Help you out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And also I mean a friend recently open my eyes
Speaker 3: to like what I feel like my problem is right,
Speaker 3: there are times where I get so dark. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: you know, I can't get out of bed, and I
Speaker 3: can I can see how it affects the people around
Speaker 3: me that I love me, like my wife especially, and
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, it seems like you're always at
Speaker 3: your best. Like there's two versions of me. I call
Speaker 3: it like the JV version, right, and then there's this
Speaker 3: varsity like team captain version. And when I'm this version,
Speaker 3: I'm like great to be around, Like my career is great,
Speaker 3: like I'm productive, like you know, things are like actually moving,
Speaker 3: like my houses in order, like my cars all work right,
Speaker 3: actually right, they're not leaking oil just kind of I don't.
Speaker 3: They're just like you know, just like abandoned in someone's backyard,
Speaker 3: like you know, everything's kind of torque, if you will.
Speaker 3: And then this j JV version of me shows up
Speaker 3: and it's just chaos. Like I started getting weight. I
Speaker 3: started GV. Was that it's like junior varsity. You got
Speaker 3: the varsity team. It's like you know, the A team,
Speaker 3: and then you got B team and it's kind of
Speaker 3: half fast and everything. It's like, you know, everything's like uncapped,
Speaker 3: like you know, I'm just gaining a bunch of weight.
Speaker 2: I do that as well. Oh my god, And that
Speaker 2: gets worse as you get older, too, is it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sixty one though, Like I swear
Speaker 1: to God, if I if I look at like a
Speaker 1: potato I like gain a pound.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's what it is, Well, I
Speaker 2: mean I don't even have to eat it.
Speaker 3: But but this Javi version is consuming things you shouldn't
Speaker 3: be consuming. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're just eating a bunch
Speaker 3: of shit and like.
Speaker 2: Just trying it. I talked to a friend of mine
Speaker 2: who was talking about zampic.
Speaker 1: And oh the weight loss time, yah, the weight loss
Speaker 1: drug thing, and he said he'd lost a ton of way.
Speaker 1: I said, did you do the zempic thing and he
Speaker 1: said yes, I did. I said, doesn't work? And well,
Speaker 1: he said, clearly it works. I said, what does it do?
Speaker 1: He says, well, it it just you just don't You're
Speaker 1: just not hungry. I went, dude, I haven't been hungry
Speaker 1: since fucking nineteen seventy four. I don't eat because I'm hungry.
Speaker 1: I eat because I'm sad. That's why eat. He said, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think it.
Speaker 2: Would work for you. Then you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like there's always plenty of food around for me.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that I can get something to eat.
Speaker 1: I don't know how often I eat because I'm hungry.
Speaker 1: I eat because I'm like, yeah, we too. You want
Speaker 1: to feel bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's a comforting thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think, to be honest, then it's a
Speaker 1: deeper psychological problem than Ozampic's not going to touch it,
Speaker 1: so you don't need to waste your time with that.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, so I just it was so I
Speaker 3: have to run. I do that too, yeah yeah really
Speaker 3: yeah yeah right.
Speaker 2: I run treadmills now though, because I like to writing trademill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I run on a treadmill because if you like,
Speaker 1: if you go, oh I'm done, just get off in
Speaker 1: your home.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also when you get older, your knees and your
Speaker 1: joints and stuff, it's a lot easier just treadmills.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can be consistent on a treadmill. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're outside of the way, there's also a reason
Speaker 3: why you can't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, treadmill you just go go away. Do you have
Speaker 1: a room in your house with a treadmill on it? No, See,
Speaker 1: that's what I do.
Speaker 2: Like do that. I'm thinking about doing that. You want
Speaker 2: to regret.
Speaker 3: I want to get away from the house and yeah,
Speaker 3: there's like a gym like two minutes away, and.
Speaker 2: You don't mind doing that? No, Well, then do that.
Speaker 2: That's fine. You don't need to listen to me. You
Speaker 2: got to touch that. Yeah, you're fine. Yeah, talk to
Speaker 2: me about your podcast. What do you do in your podcast?
Speaker 1: Because everyone has a podcast now it's like they like
Speaker 1: having a tattoo or well, it's kind of like this,
Speaker 1: this is what the podcast is very similar as like
Speaker 1: the reason you meet or.
Speaker 3: The you know, the connective tissue is like this, this
Speaker 3: this connective tissue with cars. Right, So there're like race
Speaker 3: car drivers, there's like car builders, or there's like we
Speaker 3: had John Oates who's a big car guy from all
Speaker 3: the notes.
Speaker 2: Right, it's like if you.
Speaker 3: Just love car, like like you know, like you're Morgan,
Speaker 3: it's like, hey, you actually understand like what that means
Speaker 3: to be a car dude to love his Morgan.
Speaker 2: I love that. And I have a couple of land
Speaker 2: Rovers to okay, those are great to yeah, I love
Speaker 2: those two. Oh my god, that's so cool.
Speaker 3: If you ever need yea, they said what years are you?
Speaker 2: Well, I have the twenty I think twenty thirteen or
Speaker 2: thirty fourteen.
Speaker 1: When before they stopped the old model hundreds, you know,
Speaker 1: when they started they lost the certification or the European
Speaker 1: Union said, you got to have to put in all
Speaker 1: this safety stuff, and they said, all right, so they
Speaker 1: have to change the home model.
Speaker 2: We'll have the last model before that, like eighties or
Speaker 2: it looks like that. Yeah, I want to get a
Speaker 2: Series one. I know where to go.
Speaker 1: I would not buy it in the United States, why
Speaker 1: because they're much more expensive here.
Speaker 2: Buy it in the UK.
Speaker 1: You'd buy in the UK and ship it and it
Speaker 1: would be cheaper than buying it here.
Speaker 2: And Dubai too, like they're super I think super cheap.
Speaker 2: Really in Dubai. I never been to Dubai. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: imagine it's a stop on the Fast and Furious two, though,
Speaker 2: isn't it. I've never been in there. You've never been
Speaker 2: to Dubai. Yeah. I have friends that come from Dubai
Speaker 2: and they're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, the police cars or Baghetti Veyrons and stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean it's and stuff. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, do
Speaker 2: you ever.
Speaker 1: I did this thing once where I rented a Lamborghini
Speaker 1: Hurricane just because I was in LA and I said,
Speaker 1: I just because my son was really young. It was
Speaker 1: I think it was one of your fucking movies actually,
Speaker 1: and then he said, I went a Lamborghini He was
Speaker 1: only like four or five or something. So we rented
Speaker 1: a Lamborghini Hurricane, and then I had to go to
Speaker 1: work and the thing was sitting at the house at
Speaker 1: the weekend. So my wife had to go to Hole
Speaker 1: Foods and the only car that was there was the Hurricanes.
Speaker 1: She's like, she can drive in, and she's like, funk,
Speaker 1: I'll take that. So she goes to the Whole Foods
Speaker 1: in the Hurricane and she gets a grocery.
Speaker 2: She comes out.
Speaker 1: She started it up in the parking lot and it
Speaker 1: set off the fire alarm, the alarms and all the
Speaker 1: presses for.
Speaker 2: Such a great noise.
Speaker 3: Though, man, wow, well the horcus like the it's a
Speaker 3: V eight is it ten?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess, And it's big and it's noisy,
Speaker 1: yeah uh.
Speaker 2: And it rattles very crazy.
Speaker 1: And I remember I over it like I opened up
Speaker 1: a little bit on Hollywood Boulevard. It was just quiet,
Speaker 1: and there was some tourists outside the Chinese Deer and
Speaker 1: they just like.
Speaker 2: People teering and stuff because it's got the same as fun.
Speaker 2: But I would never do that now. Honestly, I have
Speaker 2: a question to ask you. Sure far away.
Speaker 3: I read that you after high school you went to
Speaker 3: an apprentice electrician?
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, why did you do that?
Speaker 1: I dropped out of school when I was sixteen, and
Speaker 1: it was there was a factory nearby and they were
Speaker 1: taking on apprentice electricians and I it was a job.
Speaker 1: And there was nineteen seventy eight and there was you
Speaker 1: know work, wasn't that There was a ton of it around,
Speaker 1: and it was Scotland and it was kind of To
Speaker 1: be honest, I think it was a bad thing I did,
Speaker 1: because there were probably other kids that really wanted that
Speaker 1: gig and would have seen it through.
Speaker 2: I dropped even out of that after two years. But
Speaker 2: did you learn how to? I can? You know? I can? So?
Speaker 2: Can you wire your car? Can you work now? Nah?
Speaker 1: But I mean I can sorder a little thing here
Speaker 1: and there. But maybe if the car is old, I
Speaker 1: could probably figure out. If I've got a schematic drawn
Speaker 1: or I could look at it, you know, look at
Speaker 1: the car, I can figure out. But all this new
Speaker 1: stuff with printed circuit boards and stuff and software, now, no,
Speaker 1: I like the older cars. Yeah, yeah, I could probably
Speaker 1: find my way around. I mean there would be a
Speaker 1: few shocks and disappointments along the.
Speaker 2: Way, but it's like that that's an amazing talent.
Speaker 3: Well electrician, Yeah, to be able to like wire your
Speaker 3: car like and being an electrician like I so because
Speaker 3: I have these old cars, right, you have to a
Speaker 3: lot of times hire like you have to have to electrician. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well a person like an auto electrician a wiring guy
Speaker 3: to come right and basically create you a wiring hardness
Speaker 3: for your car.
Speaker 2: Yea, I couldn't. I couldn't do that, for I couldn't
Speaker 2: put a wire heart.
Speaker 1: Look, if you're if you're looking for some cheap work,
Speaker 1: don't on your fucking car. You got the wrong guy.
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I really mess up your car.
Speaker 1: I can feel you angling for you know, you know
Speaker 1: what if you just come and look at it, it's
Speaker 1: just a kind of I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: something on the fuse board or something. But no, I
Speaker 1: can't do that. I mean in an like zombie apocalypse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I've got like a nineteen seventy four f one
Speaker 1: fifty truck, I'll probably get it started.
Speaker 2: But that's it. Do you know what I think? How
Speaker 2: are you? Where are you emotionally with the electric cars?
Speaker 2: It's in it.
Speaker 3: It's I don't well, Okay, So I was so anti
Speaker 3: electric car. I don't have one, no, yeah, and I
Speaker 3: have no association with Hyundai. Okay, So but I went
Speaker 3: to Korea for this traveling car docuseries right right Auto
Speaker 3: Docu series, and I drove the ev All Evy Hyundai
Speaker 3: Ionic five N N series, which is like they're like
Speaker 3: R version, they're like if they're sports versions, all tricked
Speaker 3: out six hundred plus horsepower, right, and it has drift
Speaker 3: mode and it's crazy crazy six six hundred and it
Speaker 3: has fake sound. So you have options so if you
Speaker 3: want you go, you can like a hurrican. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: it has like backfire, it's like right, and it has
Speaker 3: these subwulfers under the back seat so it starts vibrating
Speaker 3: and you're all like and you know, and and the
Speaker 3: Sterioel looks like an F one race car and you can,
Speaker 3: you know, go to manual mode and you're like, you know,
Speaker 3: and it just you down shift and it's like all
Speaker 3: these people in the street like a holdups, you know,
Speaker 3: like this, or you can go silent mode and you know,
Speaker 3: grocer getter.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So I was blown away and it and esthetically the
Speaker 3: car is designed perfectly for anybody that is a car
Speaker 3: enthusiast right that loves cars. They they I think they
Speaker 3: had a focus group and go, what do you need
Speaker 3: in this car? It's like, well, I want the seats
Speaker 3: to look like Recardos, and so the seats look like
Speaker 3: they use Racardos, but they're factory. They're big enough so
Speaker 3: they're not all type, but they have that aesthetic. The
Speaker 3: steering wheel looks like an F one race car steering
Speaker 3: wheel right. And then and they asked me, They're like,
Speaker 3: do you have any criticism over this car? And I
Speaker 3: was like yes. It's like I'm really into cup holders,
Speaker 3: Like I drive a minivan as no iteen cup.
Speaker 2: American car design.
Speaker 1: They sit there in day one, black piece of paper,
Speaker 1: they draw a cup holding, then start building the car
Speaker 1: out from that.
Speaker 2: That's the way it should be done.
Speaker 3: But this car they're like, oh cup holder and go, yeah,
Speaker 3: where's the couple?
Speaker 2: Older?
Speaker 3: Come on, man, this is like you know this still
Speaker 3: I might have a family in here. It's like any
Speaker 3: couple they press this, butN it's like out of Star
Speaker 3: Trek it was, and it comes out and then you
Speaker 3: can get rid of it. So then you go like
Speaker 3: sports mode, right, beautiful. I think I just puted myself
Speaker 3: a little bit amazing. Oh my god, this car. And
Speaker 3: it's a very expensive right, No, no, no, no, no, come on, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's way cheaper than a tesla I think. I think
Speaker 3: by the time it glands in America. So this is
Speaker 3: the Ionic five is already here, but the N is
Speaker 3: going to be Ionic five N. I'm probably around sixty ish.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's in. That's where it is six plus horse power.
Speaker 2: I mean that Dame Boogie.
Speaker 1: I have owned an airplane that had half the horse
Speaker 1: power of that, a three hundred horse power, and that
Speaker 1: ship would go, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: Six hundred feels like it feels like maybe too much.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no. And then they they
Speaker 3: they brought out their drift version with the hem RT
Speaker 3: and and then they had a like a you know,
Speaker 3: because it's like a soundtrack like you programmed to sound right,
Speaker 3: and so they had the drift sound in it where
Speaker 3: it's it sounds like a screaming lion right right, and.
Speaker 2: That it's like, oh my god, wait, yeah, how how
Speaker 2: does that work?
Speaker 1: If you know, if you say to me, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: having an electrical problem in my uh ionic find and
Speaker 1: Craig I'd say, I don't know that. Or if you
Speaker 1: go to an auto mechanic like anywhere, you know, it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be someone who knows that you're talking
Speaker 1: about a piece of like as a computer, you know,
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to go to it's gonna have
Speaker 1: to stay with the dealer and stuff.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be locked into. No, no, no, no. You think
Speaker 2: any garage would be able to deal with that.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like, so that's the same argument with the
Speaker 3: Tesla's right, yeah, But now there are these kids that,
Speaker 3: you know, the new generation of car guys.
Speaker 2: I suppose that's true, right, If.
Speaker 3: That's what they know, that's their car, so they hack it.
Speaker 3: They're like, we're gonna hack the computer. We're gonna you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna tweak it, we're gonna modify. So
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, opposed to like, you know, two
Speaker 3: hundred horse power like from factory or wherever it comes
Speaker 3: with it, it's like, all of a sudden, it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, tune to be like five hundred.
Speaker 2: Does it lose horsepower like a mechanical engine? I think
Speaker 2: I think like over time, you know, like a like
Speaker 2: is it a battery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, the battery goes bad.
Speaker 2: It's got to be right.
Speaker 1: But I mean, but you know, like if you've got
Speaker 1: an older car that like, even if you replace the battery,
Speaker 1: you're still going to lose horsepower just in the engine capacity.
Speaker 2: Mmm. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think so why Well, I don't know why, but
Speaker 1: I think that happens with an older car.
Speaker 2: We should look that up or maybe you know.
Speaker 1: What people will tell us, Yeah, they'll get because I
Speaker 1: know that these cars the batteries go bad.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you can buy the new battery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then the old bartery be goes into the
Speaker 1: ocean and kills dolphins. Yes, it does. So I see.
Speaker 1: I'm against the electric cars because my theory is this.
Speaker 1: You are against electric cars, okay, because we should use
Speaker 1: up all the fossil fuel. Let's get it done and
Speaker 1: move on. I think biofuel is the way to go.
Speaker 1: It's a sign problem. It's not an emotion problem. It's
Speaker 1: not a let's hold hands and sing problem. This is
Speaker 1: an engineering problem. We have to replace the fuel system
Speaker 1: that we have with a fuel system that's less that's
Speaker 1: less dirty. It doesn't cause you know a horrible mess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we already have the technology. There's biofuels, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: Then there's a system of delivering it. You know, there's tankers,
Speaker 1: there's pumps, there's cars that would vary.
Speaker 2: You remember you you old enough to remember that. She
Speaker 2: might be like when fifty one? Oh what yeah, fuck
Speaker 2: you man, you moisturizer or something. But I guess you
Speaker 2: would have to be for these movies have been around
Speaker 2: for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, But anyway, what I'm saying is the system is
Speaker 1: in place for biofuels, and that's why I think we
Speaker 1: should go there.
Speaker 2: We could already. Do you know you can make diesel.
Speaker 3: O fucking anything, Yeah, cooking oil, old banana sci you know,
Speaker 3: anything that decomposes, you make diesel them. And there's hydrogen
Speaker 3: cars too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about hydrogen cars, but they feel
Speaker 1: a little blowy up eat to me.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? No, Yeah, well hydrogen. What's
Speaker 2: the name of the what's another name for the Adam bomb?
Speaker 1: The Yeah, So nobody's making the No one's saying the
Speaker 1: biodiesel ball.
Speaker 2: No one's saying.
Speaker 1: The cooking fat you know, monster, it's not happening. So
Speaker 1: I I just think that that. That's my theory that
Speaker 1: it's not a frothy emotional problem. It's not even because
Speaker 1: all you have to do is make it economically exciting
Speaker 1: for the evil people.
Speaker 2: That run the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all you have to do is say, well,
Speaker 1: by biofuel, surely, Yeah, they've got.
Speaker 2: To be working on. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a pushback now with the ev cars because
Speaker 3: you know, a few years ago it was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's the answer to everything, and now all this information
Speaker 3: is coming out, so you know, I think people are like, hey,
Speaker 3: there's the balance, you know anything. And EV cars were
Speaker 3: like selling like crazy. Now there's like, you know, it's
Speaker 3: not yeah happens anyway, happens and everything. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: look we got no let's come have another one. Let's
Speaker 3: have another podcast where we will discuss alternative fuel strategies
Speaker 3: for planet Earth.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's kind of boring you next time. Thanks,
Speaker 2: Grect