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Speaker 1: This is The EDS with Eddie Judge and Edwin ado

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Speaker 1: Yab the Husband's Know Best two Teas production. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the EDS podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Eddie Judge and I'm Edwin Arijave and

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Speaker 2: we are the Eds. The better Halves of the Girls,

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Speaker 2: you know, the other girls, those twats.

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Speaker 1: I love digging them.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, guys, we have a special treat for you today,

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Speaker 3: our first guest ever.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel special, Shane? I do, I do, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know the format, so we'll find out well.

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Speaker 3: Welcome Shane Simpson. He is married to the Real Housewives

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Speaker 3: of Orange County star Emily Simpson. They have been married

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Speaker 3: for fifteen years and they share three children, daughter Annabelle

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Speaker 3: and twins son Kella, Keller and Luke.

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Speaker 1: Did I get that right?

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Speaker 4: That's correct?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome.

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Speaker 3: Welcome Shane. Thank you so Shane, do you know Edwin?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we met in Vegas one time when we did

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Speaker 1: a podcast for your wife. Oh that's right, well your wives,

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Speaker 1: and on another occasion, I believe yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: I forgot that you were there, Edwin, because you showed

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Speaker 3: up like for six hours and then you left.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: No, it's a good time.

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Speaker 1: You guys it was fun.

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Speaker 3: So all right, Shane, we're going to get to know

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Speaker 3: a little bit more about you. I know a little

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Speaker 3: bit about you, so this is gonna be fun. Then

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about, you know, married to a housewife,

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Speaker 3: and then we'll get into the whole filming thing.

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Speaker 4: Let's do they finally have a voice?

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Speaker 1: Huh?

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Well, just for full disclosure, this is not one of

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Speaker 3: those housewives shows where we're gonna have to rip on

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Speaker 3: another girl or get involved.

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Speaker 1: With the drama.

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Speaker 3: This is really just to get to know you and

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Speaker 3: and talk about you and your whole experience on this show.

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Speaker 1: So I know Edwin and I.

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Speaker 3: Have been really just straightforward and sharing our experience. I've

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Speaker 3: enjoyed it, and I think Edwin, do you enjoy it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? No, I love it. I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, Shane, it's a great place to kind

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Speaker 3: of use your voice and talk about your experience all

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Speaker 3: the shit that they cut out that we wish they

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Speaker 3: put on there, right, the fun stuff. So anyways, well,

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Speaker 3: let's get to know you. Tell us a little bit

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Speaker 3: about yourself. What were you like as a kid and

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Speaker 3: growing up at home?

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Speaker 1: Well, I grew up in southern Orange County and south

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Speaker 1: of Orange County, and I have an older sister. So

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Speaker 1: I have one sibling and she's an older sisters a

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Speaker 1: couple of years older than me, but also growing up

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Speaker 1: my two cousins that are siblings to each other grew

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Speaker 1: up with us as well, so my parents were their guardians.

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Speaker 1: So as a child, I pretty much grew up with

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Speaker 1: three sisters in the house. That's that's my experience. And

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Speaker 1: then I, you know, even though they were technically cousins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I pretty much stay in Orange County

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Speaker 1: most of my childhood and then all the way through

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Speaker 1: college and now adult life, I'm still here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I bounced around a little bit, but for the most

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Speaker 1: part i'd been in Lagunenaguel, Orange County.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: As a child, I think I was irresponsible and just

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Speaker 1: didn't know what I was doing. And I think I

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Speaker 1: got maybe lost in the mix of three girls in

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Speaker 1: the house, and I was kind of on my own really,

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Speaker 1: so not to say I was neglected, but just meaning

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Speaker 1: I was just kind of doing my own thing and

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Speaker 1: probably kind of drifting here and there.

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Speaker 6: And Shane, I assume you were living in Orange County.

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Speaker 5: I assume you you grew up.

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Speaker 1: Affluent, meaning you mean well off, well off. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: actually it was I think it was quite the opposite.

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Speaker 1: My mother had two jobs. My father worked in uh

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Speaker 1: I guess now back then you wouldn't call it that,

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Speaker 1: but now you'd call it a startup. It was him

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Speaker 1: in four or five buddies, and they were programmers. And

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Speaker 1: I remember as a kid when people asked what your

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Speaker 1: dad did, and it came to my turn, I said

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Speaker 1: he was a programmer. No one really knew what that was,

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Speaker 1: and it sounded weird and boring and I couldn't explain it.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, he does stuff on computers. And because

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Speaker 1: was very early. In fact, my father, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's interesting, but my father's computer programming had to

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Speaker 1: do with telephone lines because there was no internet back then. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So he was focusing on expanding telephone lines for businesses

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Speaker 1: because that was the way of communication.

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Speaker 4: So he was pre internet.

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Speaker 1: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you were able to get multiple lines in

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Speaker 3: the business exactly.

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Speaker 4: That was the idea.

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Speaker 1: And so he worked on that and I don't think

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Speaker 1: he made a whole lot of money. I mean, certainly

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Speaker 1: he was able to care for us all, but it

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Speaker 1: wasn't anything exciting, yea. And not until you know, not

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Speaker 1: until I'm growing up and moved out of the house.

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Speaker 1: He Hell's company and you know, lives lifestyle. So that's funny.

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Speaker 3: Last time we saw each other, I think well before

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Speaker 3: the reunion, we were filming at a house and we

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Speaker 3: were having a conversation about you living in Utah. I

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Speaker 3: don't remember when that was. Was that when you were

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Speaker 4: When I was seventeen, I joined the Mormon Church.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool? And then when I was nineteen, I made

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Speaker 1: the choice to serve as church mission and so I

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Speaker 1: spent a year in some islands called the Cape Verdean Islands,

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Speaker 1: which no one knows where they are because they're really

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Speaker 1: tiny on a map. I came home, and I lived

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Speaker 1: in Utah for almost two years, just going to community college.

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Speaker 1: It was really just to be socially with my friends

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Speaker 1: who were going to BYU and doing bigger and better things.

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Speaker 1: And then and then fast forward a little bit, married

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Speaker 1: to Emily, and we were in Utah from twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to twenty thirteen. Okay, so or recently. It certainly wasn't

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Speaker 1: during call or anything. And Emily and I lived there

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Speaker 1: for five years and it was pretty pleasant. We enjoyed

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Speaker 1: it a lot.

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Speaker 6: So Shane, to clarify, I think I heard this right.

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Speaker 6: So your parents aren't LDS. You turned to LDS when

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Speaker 6: you went to college.

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Speaker 4: You're partially correct, it was when I was in high school.

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Speaker 6: Okay, but your parents weren't, right, No, No, what did

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Speaker 6: they grow up as well?

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Speaker 1: My mother's from Iron and she came over here when

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Speaker 1: she was in her twenties, which is in the sixties,

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Speaker 1: and my father's from LA and so you know, he's

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Speaker 1: kind of a mix. He's not don't really have anything

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Speaker 1: interesting to go further back to LA and yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's LA definitely is a religion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lifestyle.

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Speaker 6: So your parents aren't LDS, your wife is an LDS.

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Speaker 1: How do you deal with I'm the black sheep of

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Speaker 1: the family, that's for sure, all right.

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Speaker 6: So, because I assume you you don't a lot of

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Speaker 6: I have a lot of LDS employees that I work with,

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Speaker 6: so I know quite a bit and most of them

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Speaker 6: don't well, I would say all of them don't drink.

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Speaker 5: I assume you don't drink.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't drink. I never had it. Even before that,

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Speaker 1: I just never really had an interest in drinking. So

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Speaker 1: have you ever tried it? No, I've never had a sip?

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Speaker 3: Okay, wow, full alcohol?

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Speaker 1: Virgin I am man. I'm a what do they call it?

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Speaker 1: A teetotaler or something? You don't drink any alcohol? It

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound very masculine. Hey, I'm good with that, Retta.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally How does that work? Because Emily drinks, right,

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Speaker 1: So she does when she goes out with some friends.

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Speaker 1: But honestly, we don't have any alcohol in the house.

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Speaker 1: And that's not that's not due to me or anything.

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Speaker 1: It's just her choice. We just don't really have any

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Speaker 1: She doesn't drink on a daily basis. So yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you know, if my parents come over. My mother doesn't

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Speaker 1: drink either, but I don't know what her reasoning is.

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Speaker 4: She just never did.

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Speaker 1: But my father drinks, and so, you know, it comes over,

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Speaker 1: we'll make sure to host him. Awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I love that you're disciplined to just continue

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Speaker 6: on even though people around you aren't, because I know,

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Speaker 6: I mean from the outside, you know, When I look

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Speaker 6: at my friends that are LDEs, they're very strict with

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Speaker 6: basically following the rules if you will, as far as

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Speaker 6: you know, not drinking and you know, no coffee, I

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Speaker 4: Right, that's right, no coffee or tea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are there a lot of rules? Well, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: It's really just a choice. So we're given, you know,

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Speaker 1: some guidance, and you know, I like to say, I

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Speaker 1: choose not to drink, and to be fair, I'm not

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Speaker 1: really tempted to drink. So it's not like I have

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Speaker 1: the people to be commended. To be honest myself, it's

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Speaker 4: So it's something more than that.

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Speaker 1: Once you taste it, you know what happens. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: why I don't drink an energy drink. It's because I'm

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Speaker 1: afraid I'll be addicted. There's many times where I want one,

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, no, I think I'll never be able

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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask it, is, how do you are you?

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Speaker 3: Do you think you can resist sugar?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 1: Sugar? That's probably something I'm addicted to, And that's certainly

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Speaker 1: something my father says everyone's addicted to.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, that's probably that.

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Speaker 1: Would probably be a much much harder thing for me

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Speaker 1: to eliminate from my diet is sugar.

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Speaker 3: I would beg to say that it's harder to quit

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Speaker 3: sugar than it is to quit alcohol, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and probably because it's more it's more available, and

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Speaker 1: it's just all around you, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's everywhere, I mean, and you don't have to wait

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Speaker 3: till you're twenty one. I mean, you can get it

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Speaker 3: at as soon as your parents give it to you.

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Speaker 1: It too, right, right, and you could have it for

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Speaker 1: breakfast too, right, exactly, healthy sugar.

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Speaker 6: Now, is it true that you were Emily's boss? I

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Speaker 6: think Teddy told me that you were Emily's bosston. You

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Speaker 6: proposed to her on Google Chat or something like that

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Speaker 6: sort of, So that story I mean that.

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Speaker 4: So I worked in Orange County.

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Speaker 1: We worked at a real estate firm that did a

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Speaker 1: to deal okay on my own. So I was starting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, forty year old virgin. I mean twenty three. He

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Speaker 5: Right, So, how does so then you get a divorce?

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Speaker 6: You had two kids, and I did Emily have kids too.

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Speaker 4: I mean, those things still.

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Speaker 1: There was There was a few factors that made it

443
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: really hard to get through the first two years. One was,

444
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: I guess, just the pressure that Emily gave on herself to,

445
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: you know, to be open, to be out there, to

446
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: try to build relationships with these women. So there's an

447
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: element of stress to that because it's not like I'm tired,

448
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: I've seen them. I'm going to give a week off

449
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: from seeing my friends and I'll see them next week.

450
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: You can't do that with the show, right You have to.

451
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: You're on a schedule. You got to always kind of

452
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: be engaged. So there was that. There was me having

453
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 1: to juggle the home life so she could be out

454
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: there filming while still maintaining a job. There was the concern,

455
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: the real big concern I had of something surfacing that

456
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: might upset my children, my two daughters, mother, and then

457
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: that would trickle down into them and then maybe now

458
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: they can't film, or maybe they're now being fed something,

459
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: you know, some kind of misguided truths or exaggerated issues,

460
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: and then that never happens on the show. No now right,

461
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: And so I was fearful of I was really protective

462
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: of them.

463
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

464
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: And then so you can imagine what that said when

465
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: you know Emily and I are bickering back and forth

466
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: about what you know, I'm being more protective, don't don't

467
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: say this, make sure you don't say that, and she's like,

468
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 1: you know, get off my back kind of thing. So

469
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: it was, I mean, in the end it ended up

470
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: being fine. She did respect my wishes of you know,

471
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: not just divulging all kinds of bad history with their

472
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: mother or anything like that. But in the meantime I

473
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: was really concerned about that. That was my big concern.

474
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: Do you think it made your relationship stronger?

475
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: I think so. I think, I mean, maybe we'd still

476
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: be strong without the show. No one will know, but

477
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: I think what it did is it allowed us to

478
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: be more of a yin yang and we have a

479
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: dependency on each other. Right, when the time comes for

480
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: her to film, I just let her go, right, She

481
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: goes on a trip, I don't bother her. I don't

482
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: even check in on her. Isn't checking on me. She

483
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: does her thing and I can focus on kids and

484
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: work and whatever, and then when she gets back, we'll

485
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: get back into place. Or when she's filming, you know,

486
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: she knows that she'll she'll be with kids when she can,

487
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: like on her days off. But I don't bother her

488
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: when she's filming because I don't take it personal. I

489
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: think in the beginning I might have taken it personal,

490
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: and now I don't. Now I know she's doing what

491
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: she's got to do to you know, pursue what she

492
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: enjoys and to be a part of what she enjoys.

493
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: And then when it's over, she'll be back part of

494
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: the household.

495
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 4: So I think we've and she appreciates now what I do.

496
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: I think she didn't used to appreciate it, and I

497
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: think now she realizes, My goodness, now when I got

498
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: to go film where I got to go for a week?

499
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: You know on the spot, Shane doesn't doesn't question anything.

500
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: He just takes over.

501
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: So what were you doing for work at the time,

502
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 3: because I know you just became a lawyer recently right right.

503
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: So I was practicing law in Utah. That was a

504
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: that was a Utah license, not a California license. So

505
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: then I come here, I can't practice law and I

506
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: will was moved here, moved here under not so good conditions,

507
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: moved here because of family reasons with their mother, and

508
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't honestly, I don't want to get into that

509
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: because it's also a long time ago. But that was

510
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: under really stressful situation circumstances. So then we moved here,

511
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: So I have to juggle that. I took the bar

512
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: once and everyone advised me not to because there was

513
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: so much chaotic stuff going on in our life. Took

514
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: it anyway, didn't pass obviously, set that aside, went and

515
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: got a job as an investigator for an insurance company,

516
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: and Emily was working as an attorney in an office,

517
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: so she had a day job, so allowed me to

518
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: take kids to school, pick up kids from school while

519
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: she got to go to work, and then I'd work

520
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: in the evenings if I had to miss out, and

521
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: during the day. So that's what I did for quite

522
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: a while. And then, as you know on the show,

523
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: I was taking the bar again. So now I'm trying

524
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: to study. And then this is where Emily doesn't realize,

525
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, filming is draining, and so when it's draining

526
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: on her, like I can't just step I can't just

527
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: step away from I'm supposed to do. It's a full

528
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: time job, which is prepare to help you and to

529
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: film with you, able to watch the kids or whatever.

530
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: So it was really hard that way. I don't know

531
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: if I answered the question, but that's what we're going through.

532
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: The first did you.

533
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 6: Did you ever feel like maybe a little bit of

534
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 6: competition in that here you are studying for the bar,

535
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 6: she's already passed it, you hired her, she becomes a

536
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 6: lawyer first, and then she's kind of.

537
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a little.

538
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if embarrassing is the right word, because

539
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: that's a little strong word, but yeah, it's a little bit,

540
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: you know, you feel a little inferior, you know, But

541
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's not to the point I've seen comments

542
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: where people make it like I'm you know, like I'm

543
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: completely i don't know what the word incompetent, yeah, or

544
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: like I'm totally intimidated by her, like to the point

545
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: where now now I'm just you know, acting out.

546
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 4: But it wasn'tn't like that.

547
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: You know, well, you know one of the things that

548
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: the show failed to say is that you're already a lawyer.

549
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like you just started.

550
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: It's minor details that they leave out.

551
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Right right right, and then the other details that you know,

552
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: everyone thinks we just live off of you know, family

553
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: money and this and that, and they don't understand them,

554
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: and we're running around trying to juggle things just the same. Yeah. So,

555
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I know people have it harder and people

556
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: have it easier, but we're running around, you know, we

557
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: got stresses and this and that and try and make

558
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: ends meet and make sure we got you know, five kids,

559
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: provide for child support, was paying all kinds of things.

560
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, And again the show portrayed your mom

561
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: and dad are obviously well off. There was a lot

562
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: of parties at their house, so it makes them look like,

563
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 3: you know, they're supporting the entire family, from you to

564
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: your sister, to everybody.

565
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: It's just the way the show is.

566
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 4: But it doesn't it doesn't always work that way.

567
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't just unload all kinds of is

568
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: an open bank guard and do whatever you wish, you know, so.

569
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think there are some families like

570
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: that in Orange County, honestly.

571
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

572
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but it's not, it's not everyone, it's not.

573
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: It's not as easy as that.

574
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, hey, so is it true that you renewed

575
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: your vowels last year?

576
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: No, I mean on the show.

577
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: On the show. Yeah, well no, Emily always wanted to

578
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: renew the vowels, and I didn't want to because I

579
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: think it's kind of I mean, our vowels aren't broken,

580
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: so I don't really understand.

581
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 4: That they're now broken.

582
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: Don't fix them. Yeah, and then and then there's always

583
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: like the you know, it's a sentence people say or whatever.

584
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's because of death when you renew your vowels,

585
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: and the next season.

586
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: You're broken up.

587
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, even though it's probably really just a superstition.

588
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to, and so we compromised. I

589
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't say we compromise, but we came to an agreement

590
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: where she would at least get to be able to

591
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: dress up and we'd have beautiful family wedding photos. We

592
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: didn't really have very good wedding photos though. Now she

593
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: got to kind of buy a fancier dress and kind

594
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: of you know, kind of have flowers and this and that.

595
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: So we did that, and then I gave her a

596
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: ring because the ring we got at the time was

597
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: pretty it was nominal. We just kind of rushed the

598
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: store and grabbed a little something. It was mostly just

599
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: a band, and so we got to kind of fix that. Hmm. Interesting.

600
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 6: What's your what's your advice on having a successful wife

601
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: and a successful marriage?

602
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: Oh man, you're asking me, But you guys, are you

603
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: have successes as well?

604
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: We're in the same shoes as you, Shane that we

605
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: were really excited to talk to you.

606
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's not well show or no show.

607
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 4: I think it's not.

608
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: You know, making issues out of the little things, you know,

609
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, she leaves her clothes on the floor, so

610
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: what right, she drank you know, she drank my last

611
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: little bit of soda and didn't replenish it. So what Yeah,

612
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: you got to really pick your battles.

613
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: You know.

614
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: She leaves a toilet bowseed up, you know, right, yeah,

615
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: she has Yeah, she when she shaves in the morning,

616
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: there's all over the same. It's not worth it, that's

617
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: the little shit. But I really think so when I

618
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: think in the beginning. There was a few years where

619
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: I probably was nitpicky on all that, and I just

620
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: I just let it all go. It's just yeah, it's

621
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: just it's not that it's not worth it. It's just

622
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: it's not early an issue. Yeah, you know.

623
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 6: So all right, let's get to the filming part. Enough

624
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 6: about marriage. Tell us about when you first joined first season.

625
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: Did you think it was a good idea or were

626
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: you like, what the heck are we doing?

627
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: No, I thought it was a terrible idea.

628
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: Tell us what it happened. How did it happen?

629
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 5: So Emily.

630
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: Uh, We first moved here in twenty thirteen, and Emily

631
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: was working as an attorney, but she didn't really enjoy it,

632
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: which is fine, and you know, she was just wanting

633
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: to do something different. She was excited to be back

634
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: here in California. She wanted to be more outside and

635
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: doing something, not behind it. I live across the street

636
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: from my sister. That was kind of a coincidence, but

637
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: obviously we chose to live here. So when we were

638
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: moving here, it just the house opened up.

639
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: It worked out perfectly.

640
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: We moved here, so they became really close and they

641
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: were spending time to get my sister's an attorney too,

642
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: so they wanted to do something different. So bouncing around ideas,

643
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: they came up with a party planning idea and they do.

644
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: They throw parties. They love parties.

645
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: Was it a business?

646
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: You know?

647
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: They tried to make it one, and they kind of

648
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: had some parties that they threw. And one of my

649
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: things that Emily does is she was always trying to

650
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: reach out. She reached out to Tamra obviously your wife,

651
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: and said, if you need any parties thrown, we're here

652
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: for you. And that was really a publicity thing. She thought,

653
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: this will get me out there. And if you recall

654
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: Eddie she threw the baby shower, Oh yeah, baby shower

655
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: right or Ryan's daughter. Correct, Yes, I remember that now.

656
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: And so her whole intent really was just to get

657
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: a little publicity, little social media presence. Obviously, if she

658
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: ended up being on the show, she was okay with

659
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: that too, but that was not her intent.

660
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

661
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: Sometime passed later, sometime passed, she gets called up up

662
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my gosh, they want me on the show.

663
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, I don't remember what I

664
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: thought back then, but she does an interview and never

665
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: hears anything ever again.

666
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: Right, she does a skype interview and that's it.

667
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: She thinks, oh my gosh, because she was up here thinking, oh,

668
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to be on the show, and then they

669
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: never call her back. Oh, but you and I now

670
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: know it's a lot more than just a simple skype interview.

671
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

672
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Oh, she was kind of bummed about that, but she

673
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: moved on. She really didn't. It didn't phaze her much after,

674
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks of being bummed. Then

675
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: I think two years passed and they called her out again.

676
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: They called, they reached out to her again, asked if

677
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: she wanted to audition. She said yes, But now she

678
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: learned that's not enough. There's obviously more layers to it.

679
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: And I at that time, I thought it was a

680
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: bad idea. I think the first time around, I didn't

681
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: have much of an opinion. Yeah, the second time around,

682
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: I thought, no, this is not good. And we was

683
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: kind of going through you know, she was hitting forty,

684
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: so she was getting all self conscious. We're juggling a

685
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: lot of finances.

686
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: Kids.

687
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: We just had three little kids, you know, two twin

688
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: twins that were probably less than one at the time,

689
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: and then Annabelle. That was two my daughters, you know,

690
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: were all over the place trying to juggle their schedule.

691
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: So I was opposed to it. Yeah we didn't fight,

692
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: but I was. I was strongly opposed to it. And

693
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: she kept doing the thing, Oh it's just one interview,

694
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: you never know. Then she'd get invited back for anothernew

695
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this isn't looking good. She goes, oh,

696
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: it's just another interview, no big deal. And it kept

697
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: going on and on and on until she said she

698
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: was on the show. And so I was very, very

699
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: concerned about it breaking our family apart.

700
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 6: Now, were you comfortable with the cameras once you got started.

701
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: Or yeah, I don't care about the cameras.

702
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 6: I can't.

703
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: I can't take this show seriously, you know, the.

704
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Cameras come in and Emily's all dressed up making me dinner.

705
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, this is you.

706
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: Don't do this.

707
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: You're in bed on your phone telling me to order something.

708
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh god, So how can I sit there and not

709
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: make a comment. Right, I'm not going to play along,

710
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, and just my mouth shut and act like

711
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: everything's fine.

712
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: In day I'm going to point it out so funny.

713
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 6: Now, my wife was telling me, you have a sarcastic

714
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 6: sense of humor. How did that trend? How do you

715
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 6: think that translated in reality TV?

716
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: That no, terribly, terrible, terribly because it's like I make

717
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: a comment and then it's like edited, So there's crickets,

718
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, everyone that's like well. And the thing is,

719
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Emily really had a hard time with the comments that

720
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: people had. You know, oh my gosh, they they hate

721
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: us whatever they said, and I had to try to convincemently,

722
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: look from what they saw. Yeah, it was from what

723
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: they saw that was a comment.

724
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, but that's not what really happened.

725
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: You have to keep that in perspective, Emily, that's not

726
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: what really like we know more so let's leave it

727
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: at that. Don't be so quick to just go off

728
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: of what you see on TV yourself.

729
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: You know, I.

730
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: Can't agree more with you because I've had so many

731
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 3: conversations with Tamra about that same exact situation. What really

732
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: happened is what really happened, And who we are is

733
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: who we are. What people post on social media, especially

734
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: those that live in their basement and don't know what

735
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: the hell they're talking about You know, you can't listen

736
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: to that garbage. And if they believe, truly believe what

737
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: they see on TV to be real, you definitely can't

738
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: take them seriously.

739
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: Right And in addition to that, don't fault them too

740
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: much if what they if they're basing it on what

741
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: they saw, right, if they're basing it on what they

742
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: say saw which is not the full you know scene, Yeah,

743
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: then just let it be.

744
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: You know, you don't take it so personally.

745
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: To defend you.

746
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 6: I just I haven't watched the first season, but it

747
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 6: sounds like people went after you.

748
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: Did Emily have to defend you at times?

749
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 6: Or do you feel she defended you? And well, I don't.

750
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I didn't need her to defend me, but she felt

751
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: the need to run around and be defensive.

752
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: But I was okay with it.

753
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, Well you got you, Edwin did? Did Teddy did?

754
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Did Edwin? I mean?

755
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: Did Teddy ever have to defend you?

756
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 5: Oh? I just stayed. I just stayed quiet.

757
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 6: I knew that if I opened my mouth I'd probably

758
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 6: get in trouble, so I just try to stay as

759
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 6: quiet as possible.

760
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: Oh I did too, But you know, I'm sure they

761
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: were nice to me.

762
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what about the audience, you know, because one

763
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: of my first experiences, and I think we talked about

764
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: this already, is that the audience sometimes will go, well,

765
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: your eyes aren't brown enough, or your hair's too short,

766
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: or your hair is too long, or your eyes are

767
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: too white. You know, it's just you never make everybody happy.

768
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: But that usually prompted or even even worse is when

769
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: the other housewives come after you for no reason, you know,

770
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: because they're trying to get to your wife.

771
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: Right.

772
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: That happened to me a lot, because my wife can

773
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: totally defend herself, but when they started attacking me and

774
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: she's like, well, what the fuck you know?

775
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Or her kids? You know, that's totally and I'm going

776
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: to guess for you, Eddie that whoever it was, we

777
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: don't need to have names. But they poke at you

778
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: try to get a reaction, but you're a little bit

779
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: more self composed and calm, so you don't. You're not

780
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: quick to react like some people we know, right, So

781
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: that makes them poke even more and more and more.

782
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: You know, you're right trying to get a reaction because

783
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: otherwise they kind of look stupid if they're saying something

784
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: about you and you know, you keep it cool, then

785
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: they kind of look stupid.

786
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, go on Twitter to check out the comments.

787
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: Oh all the time. I don't comment. A couple of

788
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: times and then I stopped. I don't comment, I don't intervene,

789
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't pose. I don't do anything publicly because I

790
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: don't want to disrupt like the housewife world.

791
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do.

792
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: I do get a kick out of what is filmed unedited,

793
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: what the show chooses to put on the show, right,

794
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: what the producers choose to put on the show, and

795
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: then what the viewers pick up. I think it's I

796
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: think it's actually pretty fascinating. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.

797
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 4: A fascinating sense of just a form of entertainment.

798
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: I get to see what, you know, what the party

799
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: actually look like, what the women said or I said,

800
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: what the producers choose to show, what they find to

801
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: be of interest, and then you know, then you get

802
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: your mind blown because the viewers pick up something totally different.

803
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: Right. So yeah, well you probably already answered this question,

804
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: But did you ever feel an instance where you had

805
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: to step in or had to, you know, defend your

806
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: wife because she's arguing with not just you know, another housewife,

807
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: but maybe one of those male housewives that get.

808
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: You know, No, I actually don't because, uh, I mean,

809
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: if anything, I defend the other people against my wife,

810
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: I sh'll attack anyone.

811
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: She is lethal.

812
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: You're terrible, terrible. No, she doesn't need anyone, she doesn't

813
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: need anyone to speak for her. That's true. Yeah, that's true.

814
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: No, I I you know you witnessed it. We were

815
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: just talking about it this season. We were talking about,

816
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 3: you know, getting involved, and we were sitting there at

817
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: the table and I had just conversed with you about this,

818
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: and then it starts and my wife goes, you know,

819
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: head to head with Ryan and I'm like, you now,

820
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: and I haven't told you this, Edwin, but because who

821
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: he had just talked about not getting you know, involved

822
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: with the fights between my wife and another cast member

823
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: or another person.

824
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: But I had to. I had to.

825
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: I lost my cool and it was not good.

826
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: It was membership.

827
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say you lost your cool. I would say

828
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 4: you you spoke up for yourself. Those are different.

829
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: But I was actually pissed.

830
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: You know. I never get emotionally involved with this show.

831
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: And when I walked away that night, I'm like, what

832
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 3: the did I.

833
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: Do, why did I get so emotionally well, in a

834
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: couple of months, you'll be able to relive it, So yeah,

835
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: I know, so wait till you see that Edwin. It

836
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: was a moment. Yeah. Oh man. Does it ever upset

837
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: you that Emily isn't in the drama or are you

838
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: used to it?

839
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 5: I now?

840
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, what I've noticed is in the last

841
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: couple of years is that she's really stepped it up,

842
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: like she's just getting in there. And and especially when

843
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: she's filming with all the housewives, she doesn't she.

844
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't hold back. She kind of reminds me of my wife.

845
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she's.

846
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: She'll she'll credit me for this, but I don't know

847
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: if that's completely it. She'll One season she was going

848
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: to be on and it was like two seasons ago

849
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: or something, and she had a lot of reservations, and

850
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: I said, just go on, like it's your last season.

851
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: Just do whatever you want to do. Don't worry about

852
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: trying to say what is right or what people want

853
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: to hear or see. And that helped her. That was

854
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: a good season for her, and she was very happy

855
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: and then she enjoyed it and she got close to

856
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: Tamra and the other ladies, and so she felt more confident.

857
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: And then I think another I don't know, another season

858
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: or two. I can't keep track. She was like that,

859
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: and so she was just being herself instead of worrying

860
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: about how something looks. And so I think her confidence

861
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: has increased. Not off cam, off camera she has a

862
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: lot of confidence, but in front of the camera, I

863
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: think she has more confidence to just be yourself, to

864
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: speak up, to call someone out on something, or to

865
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: explain herself on something, or defend herself or.

866
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 4: You know, in all those things.

867
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: So I think that's what you're speaking about.

868
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, And does the show ever hurt business at all

869
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 6: with both of you guys being lawyers or does it

870
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 6: actually help it?

871
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: Well, Emily's not practicing anymore now that I'm working full time.

872
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: She's at home, and which is nice because you know,

873
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: she's able to connect with the kids a lot better.

874
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.

875
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean I've gone I go to hearings and and uh,

876
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, attorneys come up to me and stuff, but

877
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: they're all everyone's nice, so it's all fun. Do they

878
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: ever want to take a picture with you?

879
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 4: I've had I've had a judge. Yeah, be a little really.

880
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is so cool.

881
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you about that, like, what what

882
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: is your life now?

883
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: Actually, actually, all the all the men always say, oh,

884
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: can I get a picture for my wife?

885
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

886
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 3: I don't.

887
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: I don't like that one either.

888
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 6: Well, speaking of that, I hear your your reality that

889
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 6: you love reality TV?

890
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 5: So what which show which?

891
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 6: What's your favorite from all the from the franchises with

892
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 6: Real Housewives?

893
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: Uh, Emily and I used to watch a lot of

894
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: ninety Day Fiance. We like the train wrecks, you know,

895
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: the Team Mom, ninety Day Fiance.

896
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: You know, I think we watched Sister Wives for a while.

897
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, the last last probably two.

898
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: Years, we haven't watched any reality TV. Yeah so but yeah,

899
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we binged all that stuff. We'd watch all

900
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: that stuff. That is a fun fact. I didn't know

901
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: that about you. Yeah. I can't stand reality TV.

902
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: I can't.

903
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: I just can't watch it. I think I think we

904
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: watched less now because it I don't know, we just

905
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: we have a different perspective of things, so maybe we

906
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: don't watch it knowing that's not entirely complete or things

907
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, maybe that's kind of cause us

908
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: to lose some interest.

909
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 6: But here's what do you think would your mom ever

910
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 6: be a housewife or a friend of.

911
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: She pops up on the show and she's very happy

912
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: to get dressed up and come because she loves to

913
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, she loves to dress up. She loves to

914
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: have be around women that are all dressed up, and

915
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: she loves that environment. So when Emily wants to film something,

916
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: she is front and center ready. She is adorable. Yea,

917
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: I just love your mom.

918
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 3: She's super, super cute and so sweet.

919
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, I have her energy level is really low,

920
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: so to be a housewife, I don't.

921
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: Think she could cut it right now.

922
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: She's you know, she's seventy nine right now. Yeah, yeah,

923
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: she's over it.

924
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: She's like nothing bothers me. I have a question for you, Shane.

925
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 3: I know that in my experience, it's hard to really

926
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: or it's been hard to really connect with any of

927
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: the other house husbands on this on this kind of

928
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: experience on this network. Have you had any good experiences

929
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: bad experiences with other house husbands, Like have you been

930
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: friends with them or thought you might be able to

931
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: hang out with them outside the filming.

932
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: I know, sometimes I'll mention it Emily, like, hey, why

933
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: don't we go out with like Tamer and Eddie and stuff.

934
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: But you know, with the filming being so intense, and

935
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: then when they're off, when they're done filming, I mean,

936
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: there's no disrespect to you guys, but she's just like,

937
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh her, She's like, I've seen Tamer

938
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: every day for the past four months. Yeah, and I'm like, well,

939
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: I have it, you know. So she's just like not

940
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: in the mood to go out to dinner. And then

941
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: there's the element of, you know, off camera, if things

942
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: are shared and they're not really supposed to do that,

943
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: and I think Emily tries to respect that.

944
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: I mean, no one, no one's perfect on that.

945
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: We know that, but I think she tries to respect that.

946
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: So she's like, I can't really go out to dinner

947
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: with Tama right now. And you know, they chat though still,

948
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, so that kind of is a disadvantage for

949
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: us guys to kind of hang out because I'll say,

950
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: let's let's double date with Tamara and Eddie and then

951
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: she's like, well, you know, I can't really hang out

952
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 1: right now, and you know, reunion's coming up in a month.

953
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: We probably shouldn't hang out things like that.

954
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: Well, you never know when they're going to be getting

955
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: along or.

956
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 4: Not right friends this season, no right.

957
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: I'll never forget when I think David finally divorced Shannon,

958
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 3: my wife, you know, because Shannon is really good about

959
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: planning seeds and my wife, my wife said something bad

960
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: about David. So next day, I know, I get the

961
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: message from David. It is like, bro, I can't be

962
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: friends with you anymore because your wife is you know, talking.

963
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: Shit on me.

964
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: And that was actually bummed because I like David. We

965
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: hung out all the time, we did Spartan races. He

966
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: was the only guy that I've ever spent time outside

967
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: of the show with.

968
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: And I guess if you if you hung out with David,

969
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: it's going to throw everything for a loop. Yeah, because

970
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: now these women are going to say he said this,

971
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: or did he say this? Or why are they hanging

972
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: out and all these things. That makes it hard for

973
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: you to go out and you know, have a drink

974
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: and then come home and be done.

975
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: With Well, it's because exactly that, Shane. When we were together,

976
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: we didn't talk about the show. We didn't talk about,

977
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 3: you know, this whole drama that's going on. I think

978
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: that's what really allowed us to connect on a on

979
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: a friendly level, right, a real friendship level, outside of

980
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: the things we had in common, you know.

981
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: But that's that's where.

982
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: I When I meet a guy on the show and

983
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: all he wants to talk about is the Housewives show,

984
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, dude.

985
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm not hanging out with you.

986
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: You know, you're either fishing or there's you know, you're

987
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: up to something right, right, right, But.

988
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it hard to hang out then, right,

989
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: because you got a joke. You got to navigate that, yeah. Yeah,

990
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: And same thing with Tarama.

991
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: She she hasn't said this specifically about any housewife, but

992
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: it's very obvious that once she's done filming those four months,

993
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: the last thing she wants to do is get all

994
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: dressed up and go out and have dinner and and

995
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: and for that matter, what else are the girls going

996
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: to talk about when they're on the show.

997
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: They're going to talk about the show, right and reships?

998
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's almost inevitable, like I don't want to

999
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: talk about this for months, you know, I.

1000
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: Don't want to deal with it.

1001
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: So I get it.

1002
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: I totally get it.

1003
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 6: Did you ever, Shane, did you do you ever regret

1004
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 6: saying anything on the show that you kind of look

1005
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 6: back now that you've been on it for six years

1006
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 6: and you're just like you watch season two or season

1007
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 6: one and you're like, oh, I wish I wouldn't have

1008
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 6: said that, or.

1009
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure at the time when something aired,

1010
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: it was like I probably shouldn't have said that, but

1011
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: not really, I don't really care. I mean because I

1012
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: do control myself. I don't say anything inappropriate to you know,

1013
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: about my wife or children or anything like that. And

1014
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: I don't get involved with the other ladies. You know,

1015
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't know them enough to sit there and start

1016
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: to just have a conversation with em lane judge them.

1017
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: So if she wants to download to me, you know

1018
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: what happened with her when she went to on a

1019
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: trip or whatever it is. You know, I'm more of

1020
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: a listener, and I'll just try to be a voice

1021
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: or reason for her.

1022
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you remember they used to take us out

1023
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: to dinner and do that whole download thing. Now they

1024
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: just do it at your house for free, that's right. Yeah,

1025
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: such bullshit, And I'll never forget the first time that

1026
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: we did that, my wife is like, stop eating. I'm like,

1027
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: whoa is this reality?

1028
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: Right?

1029
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: But you look like an idiot. You got food in

1030
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: your mouth.

1031
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: Like, I don't care, I'm eating. We're at a restaurant,

1032
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: at a restaurant, and.

1033
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: She says, well, the sooner we get all the points out,

1034
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: the sooner they leave than you can eat.

1035
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I get it now. Yeah.

1036
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 6: By the way, we saw. What we have to ask

1037
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 6: him about is the Instagram thing that we saw with

1038
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 6: jay Leno where you look like Tom Cruise.

1039
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there hairback.

1040
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: That was How old were you? I was nineteen. How'd

1041
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: you get on jay Leno?

1042
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

1043
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, you asked about my child, and I didn't really

1044
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: show as far. I was a huge talk show fan, okay,

1045
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: so Letterman mostly and then Carson a little bit, but

1046
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: it was we were my friends and I were huge

1047
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: Letterman fans. I mean I recorded, you know on a VCR, right,

1048
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: I had record every night because my dad wouldn' let

1049
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: me stay up and I'd watch it the next day. So,

1050
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: and we'd talked about it at school and that was

1051
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: our thing. In fact, in about that time, in the

1052
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: early nineties, we had a TV show. We converted our

1053
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: garage to look like a nighttime talk show and we

1054
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: built a set. We had cameras, we hooked it up

1055
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: to a computer, if you can believe. We did that

1056
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: in the nineties, and we played it on public access

1057
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: like Cox Cox TV. Yeah, it was on every Thursday night, right,

1058
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: and so we did that. Never got anywhere, but that

1059
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 1: was pre YouTube, so we were huge. We were huge

1060
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: late night fans. So Letterman being in New York, that

1061
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen. And so I wanted to go

1062
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: to Leno and so we went to Finally we went

1063
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: to Life. So I was gonna go to my church

1064
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: mission that year. So I was like, I got to

1065
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: go see Leno before I leave. And so I went

1066
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: with a buddy and stood in line and then they,

1067
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: you know, they pass out these cards like, oh, there's

1068
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: a game where they're doing like a midnight confession or

1069
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: something like that, and so I wrote, So I knew

1070
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: I want. I knew I had to make up something

1071
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: silly to get on. So I made up that story.

1072
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: And I don't have a younger sister. I never peed

1073
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: in her bed and all that stuff, right, But I

1074
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: thought that was I thought that would get me on

1075
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: the show, and it did. Genus. So then they came

1076
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: up to me. I guess, I don't know. They came

1077
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: to me and they're like, hey, you know, we want you.

1078
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: We're going to pick you. And I'm like all right,

1079
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, and then they put me in the audience.

1080
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: They you know, they strategically place you where the cameras

1081
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: will be, and so I did that. But the fun

1082
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: part that Emily didn't post was I got to sit

1083
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: on the late night desk. I got to go down

1084
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: there and sit at his desk with Leno and I

1085
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: got my picture taken. So I remember there was a

1086
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: gentleman that was there and I was talking because you're

1087
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: sitting in line for hours. So I was talking to

1088
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: this guy and he's like, guy, I come all the time,

1089
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: and so I was asking everything about it because I

1090
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: was I was like, you know, starstruck right just being there.

1091
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, you can see you know,

1092
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Speaker 1: if you asked, they'll take a picture and you can

1093
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: go sit at his desk. I'm like, really, goes, oh, yeah,

1094
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: we'll do it. So I when Leno came out, I

1095
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: raised my hand and I asked if I could do that.

1096
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: I remember everyone sitting next to me thinking that that

1097
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: was disrespectful.

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00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 4: How dare you?

1099
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: Don't you know that? Yeah, like it was sacrilegious to

1100
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: go sit at a desk. I was like, screaw you,

1101
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask so Leno inviting me down. He took

1102
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: a polaroid right because there were no phones back there,

1103
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: so he took a polaroid and I still have that

1104
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 1: polaroid today, So that's awesome.

1105
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 6: Style. You had some Hollywood looks and back when I

1106
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 6: saw that, if they would have asked you to be

1107
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 6: an actor, would you have still gone on your mission?

1108
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1109
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 4: I was pretty committed.

1110
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, I asking an actor is far fetched,

1111
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: that would never happen, But I get your point now.

1112
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: I was pretty committed, so that's awesome. I was also

1113
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: very lost at that age.

1114
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 4: I didn't really know what.

1115
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: I knew. You're supposed to go to college, but I

1116
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: didn't know what I wanted to do. So going on

1117
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: a mission really kind of gave me some guidance.

1118
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 6: But seriously, I think if you would have been that

1119
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 6: age now, you probably would have been a huge YouTube star.

1120
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we definitely would have done YouTube stuff.

1121
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how big would be, but we definitely

1122
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: because you know, we had to literally record everything old

1123
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: fashion even had we had to get a three quarter deck,

1124
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: which no one knows what that is, and we had

1125
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: to do all this stuff to try to make a

1126
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: We actually went around town and would record stuff. Then

1127
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: we'd spend hours editing hours on old Fashion. Finally we thought,

1128
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: how what this? We can't do it like this, So

1129
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 1: then we thought, let's do it like a real show.

1130
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: Let's just build a set in our garage and film

1131
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes, you know, have guests on, which were

1132
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: just local people, and then we'll just go drop it

1133
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: off at the Cocks, you know, headquarters in Orange County,

1134
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: and then they aired it every Thursday. So that's funny.

1135
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: You know, that had to have been That had to

1136
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: have been like a nightmare because when I record on

1137
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: my go probe, my rides and stuff like that, it

1138
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 3: takes hours to put that together. And this is all digital.

1139
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what you had.

1140
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: To do with the VCR.

1141
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: It was.

1142
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot of rewind, pause, record.

1143
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 4: It was miserable. But that's all we knew.

1144
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: That's all we knew. That's true. That's true.

1145
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure in the next ten years, AI would just

1146
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: do it for us.

1147
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1148
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 4: AI will create some housewives.

1149
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we won't need people anymore.

1150
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, Shane, we can't thank you enough for being here. Seriously,

1151
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 6: yees knocked it out of the ballpark.

1152
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1153
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: Well, with all that said, we should definitely get together

1154
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: and go out for sure.

1155
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: For sure?

1156
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else do you want to share

1157
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: with us, Shane? I really I want viewers to know

1158
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: that I really do. I do enjoy the show. A

1159
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: lot of people think I don't want to be on it,

1160
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: but I mean I don't necessarily want to be on it,

1161
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: but I enjoy my wife being on it.

1162
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: I really support her.

1163
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm really proud of her for, you know,

1164
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: being open and honest and growing and building relationships with

1165
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: the ladies and you know, working toward you know, resolving

1166
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: their issues and all that. And so you know, I'm

1167
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm a big supporter of the fans. I'm a big

1168
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: supporter of my wife. So well, we all have our

1169
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: fixes and a lot of there's a lot of Bravo

1170
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: people out there.

1171
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: So well, again, thank you so much for being our

1172
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: first guest. It was awesome. I appreciate you. We'll have

1173
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 3: to get together.

1174
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: It was an honor. I appreciate being asked.

1175
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: Thank you, Shane, mm hmm