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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too, our number two here on a Tuesday, Matt,

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Speaker 2: we're getting what nine days away from Thanksgiving? That's pretty crazy. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 2: say out loud. It always happened. The fall always flies

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Speaker 2: by quick, summer flies by. It's September before you know it,

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Speaker 2: and then it's Halloween, and then it's Thanksgiving, and then

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Speaker 2: sand is sliding down the chimney, and then it's the

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Speaker 2: NFL postseason. I mean, it all happens in a blow.

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Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, like February to maybe April

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Speaker 2: May is the only slow time of the year anymore.

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Speaker 2: And we have obviously got plenty to talk about here.

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Speaker 2: You telling me during the break c J. Stroud has

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Speaker 2: actually been ruled out for a third straight week.

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Speaker 3: Schefter just said that, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's not great for him, that's not great for Texans.

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Speaker 3: It is a Thursday, so it's a little bit different week, but.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense. But he's that would be multiple games,

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Speaker 2: three the straight games that he would miss due to

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Speaker 2: that concussion. Hopefully he's all right. And it's you know,

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Speaker 2: nothing that's gonna That's one thing, man, Those concussions, Oh.

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Speaker 3: You always worry and wonder and yeah, multiples and I

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Speaker 3: don't know how many's had before and those type of

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Speaker 3: things too, and.

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Speaker 2: That stuff's scary, man, right, It's it's real scary.

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Speaker 3: I Uh, they're staying alive too. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 3: time to bury them, but they were on the fringe there,

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Speaker 3: and it could go south real quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're five and five, so they're teetering

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Speaker 2: right on that line. Yeah, hopefully everything's all right for him.

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Speaker 2: That's it. You know, you and I we always say

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Speaker 2: we don't like talking medical stuff. We're not doctors. I

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Speaker 2: just know, I don't know concussions might be at the

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Speaker 2: forefront of that conversation because even medical people and doctors,

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Speaker 2: there's still a lot of uncertainty around that.

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Speaker 3: But it's come a long way, but still.

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Speaker 2: Certainly has And I you know, I I know some

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Speaker 2: people in fact, to two guys that I grew up

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Speaker 2: playing hockey with who went on to play professionally, one

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Speaker 2: in the NHL one in Europe, that are both dealing

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Speaker 2: now in their thirties in retirement with concussion stuff and

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Speaker 2: bran stuff, and it is scary, it is not fun,

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Speaker 2: and so hoping for all the best for CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's real easy to be like, Oh, you know,

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Speaker 3: Sleigh has a concussion tribute back in a week. You know,

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Speaker 2: I know, right, Yeah, it's not a torn hamstring or

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Speaker 2: a broken wrist.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it's not the Ian Rodgers situation.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's it's it's scary, and I do like how

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Speaker 2: we're I think more aware of that than ever before.

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Speaker 2: For sure, there's there's still so much unknown.

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Speaker 3: I say, five to ten years from now, they may

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Speaker 3: even laugh at us as this is the Dark Ages.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Totally, Yeah, totally, Matt. Let's get to a little fantasy

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Speaker 2: fotball focus here on a Tuesday, take a look at

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Speaker 2: some waiver wire options, speaking of which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: can I think we both just need to say that

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Speaker 2: there was a certain wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: who had a big night last night. Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 2: helped both of us win our fantasy football matchups this week.

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Speaker 2: And man, not looking good in Las Vegas as things

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Speaker 2: continue to spiral pretty terrible. Go South, Go South for

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Speaker 2: the Raiders, good lord, Matt. Let's talk some options here.

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Speaker 2: Remember for this waiver wire conversation, they must be owned

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Speaker 2: in less than sixty percent of leagues. NFL dot Com,

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Speaker 2: Yahoo Sports, and ESPN, I believe, are kind of the

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Speaker 2: three aggregate ones there that are used talk about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Is it time to get back on the Brock party train?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he played real well. He was drafted in every league.

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Speaker 3: He's done nothing wrong. Set miss time to not think

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Speaker 3: he's still the same high backup producer. You know. Now,

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Speaker 3: one thing I will say that we're getting to the

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Speaker 3: time of the year, especially if you're quarterback. You've Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: he's had a bye. I might not be even keeping

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Speaker 3: the running backs I can hang on to, because I

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Speaker 3: can pick up a Flacco or somebody like that if

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Speaker 3: disaster happens. But if I have no right, right, but

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Speaker 3: if I have no intentions of playing the guy, I'd

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Speaker 3: be less likely to pick up a quarterback as the

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Speaker 2: All right, real quick, let me ask you a personal question. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this back and forth thing all season

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Speaker 2: between bow Knicks and my big money league that I

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Speaker 2: do with all my buddies from high school. This is

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Speaker 2: the twenty first season that we've had. We've had this league.

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Speaker 2: We started it when we were like sophomores in high

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Speaker 2: school two thousand. Actually, I think this is our twentieth

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I believe this is our twentieth season. I've

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Speaker 2: been going back and forth between Darnold.

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Speaker 3: My thirtieth season.

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Speaker 2: Good for you?

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Speaker 3: Maybe more? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when you guys were started to it, were you

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll take a second, just tell a quick story,

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Speaker 3: like we combined two leagues to make this one, and

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Speaker 3: they were and they're all people I went to high

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Speaker 3: school with. But the league that I that I came from,

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Speaker 3: a Sporting News or you know USA Today on Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: handwrite every add them all up, handwrite every tally, stick

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Speaker 3: that thing in the mail, and two days later you

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Speaker 3: go to the mailbox if you won your game.

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Speaker 2: That's so cool.

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Speaker 3: I can't even remember how we did like waivers or.

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Speaker 2: Trades or oh that had to be.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't digital. I could promise you that, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: they don't know you tell you stories. You've been playing

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Speaker 3: I think even longer than me.

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Speaker 2: He was probably playing fantasy baseball back in Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fiddled with that, but that was even more work, right.

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Speaker 2: very very little Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that helps a little, but still you hope he

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Speaker 2: He probably didn't. Somebody's back in there fudging with the

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Speaker 3: But he would lick a stamp and stick it on

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. That's like I was just talking with my you know,

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Speaker 2: super into Christmas and the holidays and everything, as you

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Speaker 2: And I was like, sweetheart, you're not used to this

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Speaker 2: normally you're on Disney Plus or YouTube or whatever stream

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Speaker 2: and everything. I was like back in my day, sweetheart,

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Speaker 2: we used to get the big J. C. Penny catalog,

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Speaker 2: my Christmas list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of how we did it.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was good, good times back then. Good times.

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Speaker 2: Donald and bow Knicks rotator. The beginning of the year,

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Speaker 2: I was riding bow Knicks. Then I went then it

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Speaker 2: was like every week like bow Knicks would get me

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Speaker 2: fourteen points, but Donald was getting nineteen points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Nick wasn't running as much as he had

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Speaker 2: And then the last couple weeks, maybe like a month ago,

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Speaker 2: and it was paying off big time.

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Speaker 3: I bat down and say, you were probably pretty happy

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Speaker 2: But then the last two weeks, Sam Donald's giving me nothing,

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Speaker 2: while bow Knicks has been okay. He hasn't been lighting

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Speaker 2: Donald this week. He was he was negative two or

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Speaker 2: three or four points from him, whereas bo Knicks is

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Speaker 2: doing the consistent twelve or fourteen points a week type thing.

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Speaker 2: Is it time for me to go back to bow

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Speaker 2: Knicks or don't? Don't give up on Sam Donald just yet.

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Speaker 3: That's in a situation I think i'd keep both. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't just yeah, cut one absolutely and really just do it.

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Speaker 2: Matchup based off the defense, which is tough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a great way of looking at it,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't always come to fruition. It's such an

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Speaker 3: unpredictable league's like, oh, that's a lay up defense. I

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Speaker 3: don't feel for you. Yeah, I feel for you a

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Speaker 3: little bit because it's easy to look at yourself like, man,

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Speaker 3: I lift more points on the bench yet again yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Last quarterback one for you. Say you're someone who's really

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Speaker 2: in a bind this weekend, you need somebody desperately. Would

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Speaker 2: you go Jacoby Brissett or Joe Flacco. I guess I

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Speaker 2: should probably look at the matchups two for you to Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't realize it a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, Chase, Oh that's.

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Speaker 2: Enough for me to not.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Harrison comes back, but it didn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Brisett had forty seven.

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Speaker 2: A little bit not more than both.

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Speaker 3: They're going to have to make their money through the air.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably go Flacco in a vacuum. It's sort of

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Speaker 3: like rest of year. I don't know about this week

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Speaker 3: in particular, but rest year.

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Speaker 2: What about the quarterback who had the second most points

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Speaker 2: in Fantasy football this past week, only behind Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young.

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Speaker 3: He was really good.

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Speaker 2: He's another one. Though it feels like you'd start wagon,

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Speaker 2: there'll get you four points this week or something.

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Speaker 3: I gotta bet there's fifteen others you'd prefer.

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Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, I think so. Running Backs Emmanuel

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Speaker 2: Wilson of the Packers, Sean Tucker of Tampa Bay, Kenneth

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Speaker 2: Gainwell of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Tooton still available in more

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Speaker 2: than fifty percent of leagues. Any of those guys, I

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Speaker 2: think you should be in every league.

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Speaker 3: And he looked really good this week against Chargers team

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Speaker 3: that really struggled against against the run, which makes me

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Speaker 3: think the Steeler should run more on them too. I think

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Speaker 3: he's a clear handcuff to atn and he's more than that,

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Speaker 3: so I think he should be in leagues all year.

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Speaker 3: Andy's looking better than ever.

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Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson will be an interesting one depending on what

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Speaker 2: just Jab is, That's the.

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Speaker 3: Thing, I mean, depending when your waiver claims or do

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Speaker 3: see what his situation is, because the backup doesn't get

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Speaker 3: much there. But if Jacob's in a lineup, I mean this,

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Speaker 3: he's the perfect guy. You know, when you cut your

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Speaker 3: backup quarterback, it's just a stash up totally, especially if

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Speaker 3: you have Jacobs. But not entirely. Tucker is the interesting

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Speaker 3: one because I thought he was really underraty coming out

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Speaker 2: League wide receivers, two big names stand out to me

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Speaker 3: Playability right now, Pierce, I wouldn't have a problem starting Peers.

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Speaker 2: Tight ends Matt owned in forty seven percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm currently deciding if I go against which defense

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Speaker 2: And man is as rough as Shoudre Sanders looked. Gino

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Speaker 2: Already in the National Football League. We will get into

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Speaker 3: I was thinking the Rams. Both those teams had big wins.

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, I want your best guests here. Thirty

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Speaker 2: second dead last on this week's power rankings, is it

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Speaker 2: the Titans are the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Raiders, and I think the

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, it's very weird to me because if

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Speaker 2: But in terms of if they were playing this Sunday

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Speaker 3: I might pick the Titans too. Maybe there's a little

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Speaker 2: There's nothing. And you know, brock Bowers has been too quiet.

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Speaker 3: Yes, who's their offense coordinator? Again?

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Speaker 2: For the Raiders? Kelly?

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Speaker 3: Should he be a only college guy? He seems really

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised he hasn't gone back to that. Well.

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Speaker 3: I was shocked that that was who that is. I mean,

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Speaker 2: To be honest, Don't get me wrong. Sometimes this line

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's nothing wrong with it, right, It's like.

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Speaker 2: Some of those guys just needed to stay with Bill Belichick. Yes,

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Speaker 2: There's there's a you know that's funny in all of

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Speaker 3: He might regret it except for his paycheck. And I'm

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Speaker 3: Seems like a college guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The New Orleans Saints check in at number thirty, Matt.

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Speaker 3: Probably fair Schuck showing some signs of life.

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Speaker 3: I probably will take the Saints in points so too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not a pusho. Like they've lost a lot of one score.

437
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: They've had a couple of real sinkers, but they've also

438
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 3: been pretty competitive too for having a week roster.

439
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: Just eye test, like they look much better than the Raiders.

440
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 3: Of the Titans. Yeah, Like they're hiring for Collen Moore.

441
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 3: I think they're quite happy with They just just give

442
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: him some space some time, right, just give him some time.

443
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: I know we'll get to Atlanta here, I would hope

444
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: pretty soon, but just so I don't forget.

445
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: As soon as you think they'd be low on my list.

446
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 3: But anyway, right now, Atlanta owns the eighth pick in

447
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: the draft, So the Rams, which might be first or

448
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 3: second on this list, might end up with like thirty

449
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,959
Speaker 3: two and eight or thirty and eight, you know, like right,

450
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: that's a pretty nice situation. This.

451
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: Did the Saints trade away their first round pick two? No,

452
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 2: they did not know.

453
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: Okay, there are a few that there's several teams that

454
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 3: are without them.

455
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 2: There's another bad team besides Atlanta that's without them. It's

456
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: not Cleveland. Not New York. It's not the Giants, is

457
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: it the Commanders?

458
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 3: No?

459
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: Well, Carlo, yeah, yeah, we'll get into that at a

460
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: different time.

461
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 3: I mean green Bay doesn't have Theirs, sure as the

462
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: Parsons do.

463
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: Cleveland. Brown's check in at twenty nine and it sounds

464
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 2: like shud.

465
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 3: Or San Jacksonville has the Browns have Jacksonville's there and

466
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: they have two Browns have two? Browns have two? Ye, Jacksonville.

467
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: Pretty, Jets have multiple Packers.

468
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 3: Lost Theirs, So yes, Dallas has multiple still yes, no

469
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 3: order Dallas trade to the Jets.

470
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: I think it was the second round of this year,

471
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: in their first round or of the twenty seven. Yeah,

472
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: Jets have multiple, Yes they do.

473
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: Indeed, you know they have Indies.

474
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

475
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm fine with the Browns being this low.

476
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: Same.

477
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 3: The offense is as bad as any league.

478
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrible.

479
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't matter how good the defense is.

480
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: Jets are at twenty eight.

481
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean these teams are all pretty terrible. Pretty

482
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: bad Jets were okay last time we saw it.

483
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: Let me ask you real quick, are you okay with

484
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 2: the Falcons still not being below any of these teams?

485
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 3: They're better than all these teams.

486
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Giants stay at twenty seven. Fine,

487
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston almost had a magical Jamis moment.

488
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they played the Packers tough.

489
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: They did. They're I don't think there'll be a pushover,

490
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: but they're just they're leaking oil. Yeah, yeah, they're so.

491
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: They're so beat up. Twenty six the Washington Commanders.

492
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to be pretty bad by Miami.

493
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: I know it went to overtime, but yeah, the Dolphins

494
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: were clearly the better team.

495
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 3: They were. I mean, I guess I shouldn't say they

496
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: got beat pretty bad. But they don't have much to

497
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: hang their hat on.

498
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: No, they don't. They They're another Cancun on three type

499
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: teams at this moment. I think Cincinnati Bengals check in

500
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: at twenty five, staying there after the loss to the Steelers.

501
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: You want to know something, you wanta something crazy. In

502
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: the last three games, Cincinnati defense, okay, have allowed over

503
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: fourteen hundred yards, over six hundred rushing yards, and they

504
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: have zero takeaways in their last three games. I mean

505
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: that is historically bad.

506
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 3: And we mentioned you know that they're the worst defense

507
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: since nineteen sixty six, well since DVOA was created in

508
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty three. This is the worst vo A defense

509
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 3: ever too. I mean, they just keep it worse. Who

510
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 3: I guess they should be this low? Yeah, I think so.

511
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: Checking in at twenty four is those Atlanta Falcons. Yeah,

512
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: I've straight losses.

513
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: They're shot and now the unfortunate thing is you just

514
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 3: don't get to evaluate Panics totally, you know, And and

515
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: that knee could be in the next year. It's late

516
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: in the season. He's also has a history of the problems.

517
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: Correct, Falcon. That was the other one. They don't have

518
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: their first round. They don't know their first ram zone, right, yes, yes, yeah,

519
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah you did. Yeah, that's how we started

520
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: the conversation. Dang it. Cardinals at number twenty three, they're

521
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: three and seven.

522
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: They're falling apart pretty quick too.

523
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: And you know, they're another one. I guess you don't

524
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: even probably really need to evaluate Kyler Murray at this point.

525
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: Is that I think he's gonna play for them again?

526
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: Are they in the They in the market? I mean fully, and.

527
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: I think Brissette will be the caretaker or a rookie

528
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: or someone else, and Kyler will end up in the

529
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: Jets or whatever, Cleveland or who knows, the Raiders whoever

530
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: can't get their guy in the drift.

531
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: Right now, the Rams would have the tenth overall pick

532
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: from the from the Falcons. That's what it would That's

533
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: what it would be right now. Yeah, you're right. Cleveland

534
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: has an extra first rounder this year. Cowboys have an

535
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: extra first rounder this year. Jets have an extra first

536
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: rounder this year. That's the list.

537
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 3: That's several of them. The quarterbacks that they could go get.

538
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: Them, Yes, they do, all but Dallas not like in

539
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: that Miami Dolphins checking in at twenty two, Matt, I

540
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: think there's hope they're moving up this. I feel like

541
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: there's a real lone in the sand, like there's a

542
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: gap between every other team that we've just said.

543
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: In the Dolphins, they've momentum in a good way.

544
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: Four and seven. They're dangerous.

545
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: They could be saving their jobs, you know, yes.

546
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes, and they've got man I tell you what that

547
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: a chain. Olie Gordon Combo is pretty good in the back.

548
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: Cham puts up numbers every week.

549
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: Ollie Gordon looking like the dude who absolutely wrecked the

550
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: Big twelve two years ago.

551
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: Two years ago, he was a dude.

552
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: I've told you, and I've been to matt By my

553
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: best guess estimation. You'll laugh at how big of a

554
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 2: dork I am. But I was actually talking about this

555
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: with my buddies on our WVU show last week. I

556
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: believe in my lifetime, good faith, best estimate guess, I've

557
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: been to ninety six WVU home games in my lifetime,

558
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: and next Saturday against Texas Tech, the last home game

559
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 2: of the year will be ninety seven, So I'll hit

560
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: the one hundred mark next year. In twenty twenty six, it.

561
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: Was about seventy year, right seven.

562
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know, like I did the math,

563
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: Like from the time that I was five until I

564
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: was ten, I went to like one a year. Yeah,

565
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: and then from when I was ten to when I

566
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: was seventeen, I went to like three and a half

567
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: a year, and then I went to thirty. I went

568
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: to twenty nine games when I was a student. You

569
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: don't miss that many now, No, unless I'm hopping on

570
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: a plane to Los Angeles. That's the only time. Like,

571
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: I'll go to four of the six home games this year.

572
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: If I were to list most impressive performances that I've

573
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: seen in those ninety seven games of Mountaineer field, Ollie

574
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: Gordon would be on the short list. Well, I think

575
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: I told you this story. He rushed for one hundred

576
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: and eighty yards and two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Really,

577
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: wah WV was up four going into the fourth quarter

578
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: of that game. We muffed a punt and gave the

579
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 2: ball back to Oklahoma State, and Ollie Gordon said, this

580
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: game's mine now, and nobody touched them for the rest

581
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: of the day.

582
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: To your point, though, Miami, when you found somebody they

583
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 3: needed a power back, I think so a chan can't

584
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: be your goal line back.

585
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: They have got a all I would say, almost perfect

586
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: combination in that backfield right now. Between those two twenty

587
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: one the Minnesota Vikings. Man, I don't know. I might

588
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: have the Dolphins ahead of Minnesota. I might too.

589
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: We were talking. I mentioned how we basically put Atlanta

590
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: and Sinci in their grave this morning on a podcast.

591
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: I think Minnesota might be one loss away from being

592
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: in that exact same situation. Their quarterback situation is just

593
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: an anchor right.

594
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: Now, and they're another one. We had them, you know what,

595
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: three weeks ago or whatever, when we kind of went

596
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 2: through our list of what teams in the NFL are

597
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: going to be in the quarterback market. This offseason, we

598
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: had them as a maybe I think they're moving. I

599
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 2: think they're.

600
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: Maybe like a Kyler and McCarthy team next year, you know,

601
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: something like that, because McCarthy's gonna be on the roster.

602
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna ditch the ditch om true

603
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 3: and now, I mean that's just a tough position if

604
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: you're like Justin Jefferson, like, I mean, I know we

605
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: have to evaluate this guy. But coach, we won a

606
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: lot of games last year. How long were you to

607
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 3: stick with them and the rest of the season. I

608
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: know we got to evaluate them. But my clocks ticking it,

609
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: you know.

610
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, other than that quarterback situation, they're

611
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: pretty ready maybe to be a to be a you know,

612
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: a playoff team right now. Yeah, moving up three spots

613
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: after that impressive Monday night beat down a day eighties

614
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: last night, it's the four to five and one Dallas Cowboys,

615
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: Monty Python not dead yet.

616
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: Not dead yet. And that was actually a conversation. How

617
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: we started the conversation was Cowboys back in this thing?

618
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: You know? And are they they cooked? I'm like, no,

619
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: they're not cooked. And you can see the difference. On defense,

620
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: Quinnin Williams made a huge difference Overshown's back. Revel the

621
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: third round pick and show my first round pick. He

622
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: came back. Wilson, the linebacker from the Bengals. I think

623
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: the visuals said they had five new starters this week

624
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: on defense. Those were those four and somebody else that

625
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: came back from injury or whatever. So I kind of

626
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: took the stand of and they are they're like in

627
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: the Hunt, you know, the in the Hunt tall and

628
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: I think they're tenth right now in the NFC. But

629
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: as my co host was talking, I went and just like,

630
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: I wonder who they're playing next, Philly, Kansas City and

631
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: Detroit or the next three games. So we might as

632
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: well get the shovels out to start digging. But then

633
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: it eases up. But if they go, oh and three here,

634
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: then forget about it. I mean, they can't lose two

635
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: of those three probably NFC.

636
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: They probably at least need to win two of those three,

637
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: particularly the NFC.

638
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: Games, and then win the other ones. I mean, yeah,

639
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: I mean they shouldn't be huge favors over anyone, But

640
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: I say if they're in the AFC. Maybe NFC is brutal, brutal.

641
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's gonna be a good team in the

642
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: NFC that gets left out of the picture like a.

643
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: And there might be a not good team that gets

644
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: in the playoffs in the AFC.

645
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Correct number nineteen. I think, perhaps so, Matt. I think

646
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: on the global picture this year, the Raiders and the

647
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: Commanders have been the most disappointing teams. The Colts and

648
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: the Patriots have been the most surprising teams in a

649
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: good way. Ravens are sort of on the disappointing really

650
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: good point. You can explain to them they had a

651
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: ton of injuries for a stretch.

652
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: But they were a little disappointed before. They've been a

653
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: little disappointed, I mean just because they were here. Though.

654
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: In terms of expectations, yeah, they.

655
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: Were a one on the short list of Super Bowl picks.

656
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: Another year. One of the co hosts on this show

657
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: might even have picked them to win Super Bowl.

658
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yeap.

659
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: Carolina, I think would be one of the next ones though.

660
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: On that pleasantly surprised list, six and five still plenty

661
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: to play for. They checking at nineteen on this week's

662
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Power Ring I think that's fair.

663
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: I think we could go so far as to say

664
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: they're an average team.

665
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 2: They're well coached. Yeah, yeah, you know, they don't have

666
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: much that scares you. But they don't have much that

667
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 2: Cincinnati defense the circle and you go, these guys are

668
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: really terrible here.

669
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: And like last year their defense was at that level.

670
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: I mean they had a lot of injuries, but they

671
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: had no talent either.

672
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I think about right there, and yeah, still that fine.

673
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: They've still got plenty to play for the Texans. Checking

674
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: at eighteen, they are five and five, Still no CJ. Stroud.

675
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: They now have a twenty nine percent chance to make

676
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

677
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: They staying alive, and Mills isn't the worst option. He's

678
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: probably a little below like a Rootolph to me. They

679
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: do play this Thursday. I don't know who they're playing.

680
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: We can preview that in.

681
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: The week they play the Buffalo Bills.

682
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: Maybe that's maybe that.

683
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: You were talking about, you know, right in the right

684
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: in the the eulogy, the obituary for some of these

685
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: teams Dallas. I think Houston as well too, that both

686
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: both Texas teams could be on on Tuesdays, Houston Buffalo

687
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: at home with no CJ. Stroud to Indianapolis to Kansas City.

688
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: That's where the Texans are. That's the Texans next three games.

689
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not in good enough situation.

690
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: Chos at home, at Indy at Case.

691
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I don't know that they can drop

692
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: two of those.

693
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: You'll be stone dead in a moment, isn't that what

694
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: they say in Monty Python And he's like holding it,

695
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: I'm not dead. He's Chargers check in at seventeen, and

696
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't know about this. They dropped from eleven to seventeen.

697
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: I realized it was a lobsided loss against Jacksonville, but

698
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: I don't know about dropping them all the way to seventeen.

699
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: I kind of disagree with you, just because I think

700
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: the O line's so bad. And I heard some splits today.

701
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: Tarked their nose tackle. It's almost like Cam Hayward last year.

702
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: When he's on the field, they have a great run defense,

703
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: but he's not on the field a time, and when

704
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: he's off the field, they get gashed, which I would

705
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: like to see Pittsburgh do more of.

706
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, checking in at sixteen, just above them,

707
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: the team that just gave them a butt whooping six

708
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: and four of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

709
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm still not sold that they're I mean, I'm not

710
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: like digging the grave for him or anything yet, but

711
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm not sold that they're an above average team, which

712
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: I guess it's sixteen. They're definitely no one's saying they are.

713
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: I meant to tell you guys this. We laugh sometimes

714
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: about the messages and the comments and those things that

715
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: you receive. Anybody who works in this business does right.

716
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get people saying nice things about you. Sometimes

717
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: you get people in your mentions calling you an idiot.

718
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: M hmm.

719
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: I had some guy who messaged me on Facebook and

720
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: was like, can you please stop with the yinzer pronunciation

721
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: of jaguire. It's Jaguars, Okay, yin is correct. Excuse me.

722
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: This is the Steelers Audio network last time I checked.

723
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: Did you tell him quit being a jag?

724
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: I told him to quit being a jag. I saw

725
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: in his profile he graduated from Pitt just that typical

726
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: nose in the air panther education. I guess the Jaguars

727
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: check in at number sixteen, Matt down eight spots, the

728
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs at number fifteen. Wow, that's a little

729
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: harsh for me. Let me see who's in front of him,

730
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: the Bears.

731
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: Like I had have the Chiefs had the Steelers, would you.

732
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: Have them head of the Ravens. Yeah, I think I

733
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: would definitely have him head of the Ravens. And the

734
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: Ravens are at thirteen. Here I realized yesterday I spoke

735
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: harshly about the Kansas City chief Right. I got a

736
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: couple tweets about that too. The people are like, you

737
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: better be careful. I also said, if they won six

738
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: of their last seven games and.

739
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: Win, we didn't predict that they're going to lose out.

740
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I am just not giving them the benefit of

741
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: the doubt. Is the Super Bowl favorite, let alone the

742
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: AFC West favorite anymore?

743
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: I agreed?

744
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: They are still if you're telling me right down five,

745
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: the Steelers win the division and they host a playoff game,

746
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: pick the one team you wouldn't want to come to

747
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: Akroscher Stadium.

748
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: Times a thousand, it's the Chiefs. Times a thousand, it's

749
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Right.

750
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: I think fifteen might be a little too, but I

751
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: think they should be outside of the top ten this point.

752
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: Agreed. Agreed, Okay, I mean, like again, I have the

753
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: Chiefs of the Steelers.

754
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: So let's do this at Yeah, in front of the

755
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: Bears are at fourteen, and.

756
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: Bears just keep winning and Chiefs keep losing. So there

757
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: has to be something to be said for that. Bears

758
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 3: d is the worst unit of the four. I don't

759
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: think their offense is the best unit of the four.

760
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 3: Are the Chiefs of the Bears?

761
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: I think I would too, but I'm thinking about it.

762
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: If they played a neutral site, the Chiefs are favored.

763
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: Right, not one, probably by like a point and a half.

764
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet it's close.

765
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The Chiefs though, man, and it's

766
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: the first place schedule, but like, it doesn't get any

767
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: easier for them.

768
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: I'd say that it's not a they're just gonna not

769
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: gonna skate right in.

770
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: They've got their colts. They've got the Colts at home

771
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: this weekend, and then they go to Dallas on the

772
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: short week for the Thanksgiving game against the cow They

773
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: now suddenly have some life. Yeah, and you can at

774
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: least score points.

775
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: We know they can at least score points. Colts are

776
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 3: coming off of bye too for that game. That's two

777
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: rest issues.

778
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: So even say they split them and they go six

779
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: and six.

780
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: I mean, they're still swimming up.

781
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Still tough, and then they got a desperate UH Texans

782
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: team still and still got to play the Chargers again Broncos,

783
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: although I do believe that's towards the end of the season,

784
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: so that could be one where the Broncos aren't fully

785
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: playing for anything. Kind of the opposite of last year

786
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: when the Broncos needed to beat the fifteen and one

787
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs the last week of the season to

788
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs and the Chiefs arrested everybody. Maybe

789
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: that shoe will be on the opposite foot this year.

790
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: Baltimore at thirteen, I think I would definitely have the

791
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: Chiefs ahead of the Ravens for Baltimore both five and five.

792
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what the Ravens have like turned the corner.

793
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: They didn't look great against against Cleveland. No no, and

794
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: I realized the Cleveland defense is good, but they struggled

795
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: to get that win. Lois they've been in a while.

796
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Mat The Tampa Bay Buccaneers checking in at number twelve

797
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: after Sundays lost to the Bills. Yeah, I'm sorry, I

798
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: mean I'm of Steelers.

799
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: Fox are better than Steelers. I mean, the Bucks are

800
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: good too.

801
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: They lost a few. They're on a little bit of

802
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: a skid here.

803
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: No, but losing in Buffalo it was a late touchdown.

804
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: They were in that game for fifty minutes.

805
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: I do think there was a point where, maybe it

806
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: was during the Steelers maybe it was around the Steelers

807
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: bye week, where we talked about the teams right now

808
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: that you are most certain would win their division, and

809
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: I think we both said the Bucks, yeah yeah, And

810
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: right now the Panthers are right on their heels. I

811
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: still feel very confident that they win that Buck Yeah,

812
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: win that division. I just don't know if I consider

813
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: them among the NFC contenders like we did maybe a

814
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: month ago. I guess playoff team.

815
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can make some noise, maybe they win a game.

816
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: If they knocked off Seattle or La or Detroit or

817
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: somebody like that in the playoffs, that wouldn't shock me.

818
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: But I also don't put them in the same category

819
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: as those NFC leaders.

820
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: No, I don't either.

821
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: It could could certainly turn back though Steelers check in

822
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: at number eleven.

823
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I did the Chiefs ahead of the Steelers,

824
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: I would have Tampa ahead of Steelers. I don't know

825
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: what's the thing about Baltimore. I'm gonna uffle some feathers that.

826
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're pretty think about Chicago either, right,

827
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: I won six of their last seven games.

828
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 3: There's definitely a case to put Chicago ahead of Steelers.

829
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 2: Part of it with the Steelers, right, Chargers loss wasn't great.

830
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: I really like how the Steelers defense is playing.

831
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: And I trust it now. Yes, I don't think it's like, oh,

832
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: that's kind of a flash in the pan, you know.

833
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: But the quarterback status is up in the air. Jalen

834
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: Warren is not one hundred healthy.

835
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 3: The passing game is a passing game is ailing right

836
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: right now? It is.

837
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: I think the Steelers are in this eleven to fifteen range. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

838
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: I might have like Kansas City, and I don't even Tampa,

839
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: certainly Kansas City, maybe Chicago.

840
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: I mean, do we know the spread of the game.

841
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: I bet you I can find it in the problem.

842
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Bet you I can find it.

843
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: And just thinking Chicago is a two and a half

844
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: point favorite at home.

845
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: You would be absolutely correct. I didn't double half point favorite.

846
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 2: The Chicago base, dad.

847
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 3: Base, they think they're close to equal teams. It used

848
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 3: to be three points at home. It's not quite as

849
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: as much anymore.

850
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: It's not San Francisco checks in at number ten, seven

851
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: and four. Brock party back to find ways to win.

852
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: I think they're going to the playoffs.

853
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: I do too.

854
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: They beat Arizona pretty handily. Offense looks good.

855
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: Whereas I think the AFC is pretty much wide open.

856
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

857
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: I think in the NFC there's a clear line between

858
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: the contenders and the good teams. I would have San

859
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: Francisco and the good teams with the Bucks. Yeah, I

860
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: might even have the Packers soon.

861
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: They're not They're okay. Yeah, they're not playing well.

862
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: They are not playing well. They're six three and one.

863
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: I think they have a lot of similar to the Chiefs.

864
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: If they started rattling off wins here like crazy, wouldn't surprise.

865
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I trust a coach and I think a good quarterback.

866
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: But it has not looked the way that you think

867
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: it would. A little bit about though. Good for him,

868
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: shown a little shown a little life in his career.

869
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: A couple of times he's had to play for the Packers.

870
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: He's okay. I mean he might be one of those

871
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: guys a year or two from now. Like he started

872
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: quarterback in the league for.

873
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill, just type reclamation.

874
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: He wasn't the first round pick. There wasn't a ton

875
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: of pressure on him.

876
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: You know.

877
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: It comes from a tiny school.

878
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: If you had to liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty, if you

879
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: had to start a if you had to have one

880
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: of these following two quarterbacks next year for your build

881
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: an offense around mac Jones or Milik Willis.

882
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: Oh wow, mac Jones. Everyone on the planet would take

883
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: mac Jones. I don't know that I would because he's

884
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: had success. He was quite good for the Niners. But

885
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: I can't stress enough for him for the Niners Shanahan,

886
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to as much as any quarterback

887
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: in the league that has a chance to be a starter,

888
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: you have to cater your offense around him. I mean,

889
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: he's just not that talented, you know. Like my co

890
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: host is locked on Niners guy and he's always trying

891
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: to sell me Mac Jones the Steelers next year. Oh,

892
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: when Rogers retires, will give you mac Jones for a

893
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: third You're like, it might work out and you can

894
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: win games with him the way he played for the

895
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 3: Niners this year, and system quarterback is not something I

896
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: in a nutshell is not a negative connotation, but he's

897
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: really a system.

898
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: Almost every quarterback in the NFL is assistant.

899
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's different degrees of it, correct, the tenth

900
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: theory of it, you.

901
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: Know, correct. I think I think I would go Malik Willis.

902
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: I think I would too, but most people wouldn't. I mean,

903
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: that's kind of a crazy thing to say.

904
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this right now and we'll get back

905
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 2: into it around campus tomorrow. Like guys that can run,

906
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: I think I would take one of these quarter the

907
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: second tier college quarterbacks in the second or third round,

908
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: before I would take or mac Jones. But I'm with you.

909
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: The the running ability of Willis would I think be

910
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: the deciding factor there. Lions fall three spots. They are

911
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: number eight, They are six and four. Jared Goff with

912
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: one of his worst games in recent memory. Yeah, the

913
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: schedule's not getting any easier. They're in a weird position.

914
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: I still think they make the playoffs and everything.

915
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they could rebound and beat some bad team

916
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: this certainly. I don't know who they're playing, certainly, but

917
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: I think that as an awful wait place to walk in.

918
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: It'll wind in Philly. I mean you know, you know, well,

919
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: I sure do the link. You got to dig them

920
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: a little bit. But they're still a contender to me

921
00:42:59,160 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: that they could still win this.

922
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: I didn't tell you the exciting news about Lincoln Financial Field.

923
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: Your boy won World Cup lottery tickets there for next

924
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: summer just recently last week, So I got four tickets

925
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: to It'll be June twenty seventh to Saturday in Philly

926
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: at the Link.

927
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: And that's several games.

928
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: Is that it's one game? Oh, it'll be one World

929
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Cup group stage game. I think in like a month

930
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: we'll find out exactly who it is. Wow, I'm hoping

931
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: it's like a big South American team like Brazil or Argentina, Uruguay,

932
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: or like France or Germany or Spain or England. But

933
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: sounds like your boys going to a World Cup game

934
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: in Philly this summer. For that, I am very excited.

935
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills check in at number seven, seven and three.

936
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: They get back into the win column against a good

937
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: team in Tampa Bay.

938
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, this Tier two have legit concernstrong. Yeah.

939
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: I think that's about right now. Just ahead of them

940
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: is the team that they are a game and a

941
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: half behind. It's the New England Patriots. They've earned it

942
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: nine and two. They've earned it because of the record.

943
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: They beat Tampa, which said a lot. The Patriots bye

944
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: week is still two weeks away. I know that might

945
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: work out really well for them. Milton Williams going to

946
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: ir maybe you'll get him back post by.

947
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: All right, they might be exactly what they need. This

948
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: whole schedule thing. This has worked out.

949
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 2: Played out well, very well for New England.

950
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: That's why I'm a little hesitant to one thousand percent

951
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: by in, but I'm ninety nine percent bought.

952
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: In number five. Also at nine and two, the Denver Broncos.

953
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: Fair offense might be getting a little better passing game,

954
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: might be getting a little better. Knicks played well.

955
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: Key stat for you. It's something you mentioned a lot

956
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs that's moved in the opposite direction. Again,

957
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: it's almost like for those two franchises the shoes on

958
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: the opposite foot from last year. Denver last year one

959
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: in six in one score games this year seven and

960
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: two are they they are winning a lot of the

961
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: they're doing the Chiefs thing from last year. I got

962
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: a close game, which I'm not saying there's anything wrong

963
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: with that. That's what you do in the NFL.

964
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: Along those lines. So the Bears, you'll do that in

965
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: the statue like they have a very One of the

966
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: things NFL dot Com does is average margin of victory,

967
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: so they look at all your wins and by how

968
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: much did you win? Theirs is really really low.

969
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: Really low. Matt Seattle falls from one to four after

970
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: their loss to the Rams. On some that's the absolute lowest.

971
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: I dropped.

972
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it took a four interception nightmare outing for Sam

973
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: Darnold for that to be a twenty one to nineteen

974
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: win for the Rams. Eagles check in at number three,

975
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: Cults at two. I might flip flop in Indy.

976
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: I'd go Rams, Philly Indie heavy in the NFC.

977
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's fair. I think I'm with you

978
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: on that one.

979
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: I just have to be one.

980
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 2: I might go Philly one and then Rams, but that's

981
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: fine with me.

982
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: The way the defense is playing for Phillies.

983
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: I like the Rams quarterback and coach more, but I

984
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: the way the defense is playing for the Eagles is scary,

985
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: and I think they're only gonna get better down the

986
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: stretch as they get Jalen Phillips and some of those

987
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: other guys acclimated and more familiar with what they're doing.

988
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: Gonna take a quick break here and a quick wrap

989
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: up on the other side. It's the Drive on Steelers

990
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

991
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: Your teams about Drive on your twenty four to seven

992
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

993
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: All right, Matt, this might be the shortest segment ever

994
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: in Drive history, but I did want to get to

995
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: a funny tweet from Max here. Remember we had the

996
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: conversation about time of possession. Did the Steelers win it

997
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: by five seconds or by ten seconds? If you're a

998
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: baseball team and you go eighty two and eighty, did

999
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: you finish one game above five hundred or two games

1000
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 2: above above five hundred? Max chimes in and he said

1001
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 2: he's definitely with us. Eighty two games Baseball is one

1002
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: game over five hundred thirty minutes in five seconds, five

1003
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 2: seconds more time of possession, not ten right, Look at us, Matt,

1004
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: We're just some statisticians. We're just some mathematicians up in here. Baby.

1005
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said yesterday, they were thirty oh five.

1006
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: If they would have held the ball one second longer,

1007
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 3: do they get credit for two seconds longer.

1008
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: I don't think so we need to maybe the off the.

1009
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: Raft blew the whistle one second later on one player.

1010
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: I think I told you this yesterday. Mike Pursuda is

1011
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: on the complete opposite side of the defense of us.

1012
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 2: You go eighty two and eighty you finished two games

1013
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: above five hundred. It's simple math.

1014
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: I think you gotta break it down like we just

1015
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 3: did by the second.

1016
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: We need to at some point in June when we

1017
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: have nothing going on, conversation, suit in here for five

1018
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: minutes and argument. That'll do it for the show. Today.

1019
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: We got a ton of tweets in the last twenty

1020
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: four hours or so, a.

1021
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: Lot of sun Oh yeah, tomorrow's gonna be busy too.

1022
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: Tomorrow will be a busy day, I promise you. Though

1023
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: I've bookmarked those tweets, we'll get to those tomorrow and

1024
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: on Thursday as we roll along. But tomorrow we'll dive

1025
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: into Matt's status.

1026
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: I'm doing homework right now.

1027
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: We'll go around campus all that fun stuff that we

1028
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: typically do on a Wednesday, as well as talking to

1029
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: our buddy Chris Hallick. But that will do it for

1030
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 2: us today. Thanks to the first part of our Cris

1031
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: contingent here on the On the Drive, Chris Adanski for

1032
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: joining us in the first hour of the shows. Chris

1033
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: cross apple sauce. My wife didn't know what that was.

1034
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: By the way. Our daughter came home from from school

1035
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: the other day and was like sitting down and was like,

1036
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: Chris cross apple sauce, and my wife was like, what's that.

1037
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't really know either.

1038
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, you can't say the one thing that we it's

1039
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: when you sit with your legs crossed.

1040
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: I can do that.

1041
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: We used to call it something different when we were kids,

1042
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: but now you can't say that anymore in twenty twenty five.

1043
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: If you're picking up what I'm putting down, it was

1044
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: a disparaging comment about it.

1045
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1046
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you when we go to break.

1047
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get canceled on this Tuesday, this Tuesday

1048
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: evening before we get to do with apple sauce.

1049
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: No, it has nothing, okay, I think that's just a

1050
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: funny way to do with apple sauce. Big Apple Sauce

1051
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: is gonna come after me now, Big Apple Sauce is

1052
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: going to be all in my mentions trying to get

1053
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: me canceled. Big thanks to TV mister TV our resident

1054
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: statistician and of course, video producer, and a big shout

1055
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: out to Matt Williamson. Will dive into Matt's stats tomorrow.

1056
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: You know where to find us. As always, take care.

1057
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: We will talk to you then on your twenty four

1058
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: to seven home of the Black and Gold at Steelers

1059
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network