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Speaker 5: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I'm Matt Moore. Thanks

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Speaker 5: On today's show, we will do the Wednesday NBA Buffet,

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Speaker 5: will chow down on some tasty lines for Wednesday. We

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Speaker 5: will talk about what futures we missed out on early

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Speaker 5: that we wish we'd gotten in on.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 6: This is your producer, Matt Mitchell. Just a reminder that

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Speaker 6: James Harden was traded after this podcast was recorded, so

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Speaker 6: there is a James Harden trade update section recorded afterwards

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Speaker 6: that is at right around the forty six minute mark.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 5: I am vexed because the league has done something that

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Speaker 5: makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

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Speaker 3: But we will start, gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: I am joined by Brandon Anderson and Raheem Palmer, the

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Speaker 5: secretaries of state in the interior. You can figure out

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Speaker 5: which one degenerate nation. Brandon, Raheem, how are you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I can't complain. I mean, this NBA season

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Speaker 7: is it's a little rough, the COVID proto cause it's

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Speaker 7: just it's just a lot. But besides that, you know,

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Speaker 7: we got the NBA bag.

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Speaker 4: I can't complain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as long as games are still happening,

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Speaker 2: can't complain. We got another around. NFL playoffs this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to Bill's Ravens, especially box Saints.

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Speaker 5: Take the Ravens you're obsessed with this, Ravens pick. I'm

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Speaker 5: coming back at you if the Bills do this. But

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Speaker 5: this is an NBA show and we will start with

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Speaker 5: what's on the marquee.

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Speaker 3: COVID.

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Speaker 5: COVID is a problem, it turns out, the global pandemic,

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Speaker 5: it turns out, is still an issue. I looked up

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Speaker 5: the numbers. I hadn't actually checked the numbers, and if

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Speaker 5: political events, plus the season starting and everything else going

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Speaker 5: on live in the holidays. Last Friday, there were three

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Speaker 5: hundred and ten thousand new cases in the United States

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Speaker 3: Those numbers are unfathomable.

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Speaker 5: Think about what if your reaction would have been if

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Speaker 5: I told you back in March or in like March first,

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Speaker 5: They the Sixers were forced to play with only seven

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Speaker 5: an injury. It's a mess, Fellas, this is an absolute mess.

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Speaker 5: I have a huge story going up on Action Network

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Speaker 5: today on Wednesday as we record this, that breaks down

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Speaker 3: I will start right here.

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Speaker 5: The NBA is not going to shut down, and that's

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Speaker 5: not because they have it totally under control and this

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Speaker 3: Like you just you cannot.

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Speaker 5: The money's already been invested, your leverage at that point

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Speaker 7: I think we have guys who just are bringing chicks in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think one of the big things from this

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Speaker 5: The league has made it very abundantly clear that this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guests. Look and look, some of this is guests.

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Speaker 5: It's like a business partner or somebody that you know

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Speaker 3: They've cut down a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 5: George Hill was pissed about last night, saying, if it

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Speaker 5: Like I'm all in favor of the of the players

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Speaker 5: Like everyone is having to risk manage during this ten

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Speaker 5: But if that's the choice that George Hill wants to make,

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Speaker 3: You don't get the money, Brandon.

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Speaker 2: I forget who the quote was, but I saw a

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Speaker 2: Like it does suck. No one is disagreeing with that,

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Speaker 2: but this is what doing. We're all cutting, we're all

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Speaker 2: making sacrifices. But it's sounded like a lot of the

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Speaker 5: Stay nice reference Zach Low and Brian Whinhorst reported this

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Speaker 5: Like two and a half hours they're playing basketball? That's

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Speaker 5: the risk. Well, One, you don't spontaneously get COVID from

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Speaker 5: And I like, I got the league's case on whether

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Speaker 5: will maintain hope that this will get through. Let's shift

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Speaker 5: a little bit to betting, so you know, the Sixers

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Speaker 5: sixers because the Heat had like three dudes left over

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Speaker 3: Rahima. I will maintain this every time that you.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're gonna have more games with COVID implications to

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Speaker 5: bet on on Wednesday night as we kick off the

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Speaker 5: Wednesday Night NBA Buffet.

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Speaker 1: Dig in certain my desh look delicious. It's the Wednesday

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Speaker 1: NBA Buffet.

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Speaker 4: Chew and swallow no savory.

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Speaker 3: All right, So here's how this works.

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Speaker 5: We each have a hundred theoretical quote unquote theoretical dollars

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Speaker 5: to play with last week's result. Brandon was not with

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Speaker 4: Not great.

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Speaker 5: I was very big on the Wizards. On the Wizard

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Speaker 5: sixers under that was one of the greatest over games

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Speaker 3: History of the sport.

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Speaker 5: So good job by me completely whipping on that one. However,

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Speaker 5: I hit sons, I hit parlay on the Suns and Pacers.

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Speaker 5: I've wound up with only eighty eighty one twenty, but

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Speaker 5: hoping for a better week this week, Brandon, you have

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Speaker 3: The way it works, it's a meal.

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Speaker 5: You get to have two sides and the total, and

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Speaker 3: We'll each go around round, Robin.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with our first bet, raheem, what's your first

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go with the Charlotte Hornets.

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Speaker 7: I think in this spot, I think you spoke about

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Speaker 4: The Hornets just be. The Mavericks will be without.

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Speaker 7: Jaalen Brunston, Dordy and Fenny Smith, Naxi Cleaver, Dwight Pole,

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Speaker 7: Josh Ripperson, Richardson. That's you know, three of their best

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Speaker 7: And I think that the loss of Maxi Leeber particularly

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Speaker 4: They have Chris steps on Perzingis coming back.

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Speaker 7: But I just for me, I'm one of those guys

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Speaker 5: Okay, you're not getting the best of the number there.

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Speaker 5: It was five and a half. So here's what's interesting

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Speaker 3: I like to pick because I almost took this one.

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Speaker 5: Eighty five percent of the money's on Dallas, but this

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Speaker 3: I think that that's really interesting.

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Speaker 5: I like the spot, but you are you are definitely

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Speaker 4: Yeah without it. I mean this is a replacement pick

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Speaker 3: So I hear you all right? For thirty three, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna stab your ass?

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Speaker 7: Which is fourth?

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Speaker 6: Do you hear me?

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Speaker 4: I would love that?

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Speaker 3: Brandon? What's your first one?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: So my first pick comes with the trivia time for

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Speaker 2: you guys, can you tell me the last time the

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks played any basketball game that ended up within

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Speaker 2: single digits.

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Speaker 3: It has to be this season.

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Speaker 5: They haven't covered that much the season. It's got to

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Speaker 5: be the season, right it.

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Speaker 2: Is this season. It was the opener. Remember the Jason

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Speaker 2: Tatum shot in the final second. That was That's the

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Speaker 2: last one. Ten straight games that have been double digits

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Speaker 2: or more. The Bucks are seven and four, all four

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Speaker 2: losses by double digits, all six wins or all seven

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Speaker 2: wins sorry, three losses by double digits except for the

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Speaker 2: Celtics one. All seven wins by double digits. They won

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Speaker 2: by thirty nine on Christmas. Their next wins were forty

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Speaker 2: seven to thirty. Their average win margin is almost twenty

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Speaker 2: five points right now, and the Bucks have the number

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Speaker 2: one offense. They're shooting lights out. The defense is getting better.

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Speaker 2: Brook Lopez is playing more recently, and I think that

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Speaker 6: Try.

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Speaker 2: Pistons are not good. The Bucks are very good. This

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Speaker 2: is the regular season. We know this. The Bucks are

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Speaker 2: the best team in the regular season in the East

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Speaker 2: at the least Pistons have six losses by eight or

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Speaker 2: more points. The Bucks are at ten and a half

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Speaker 2: right now. Anytime I give the Bucks as basically all

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Speaker 2: I have to do is win by double digits against

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Speaker 2: a bad team, I'm always that's going to catch my

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Speaker 2: every time. So I'm going fifty dollars Bucks ten and

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Speaker 2: a half to cover.

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Speaker 5: Whoa big out of the gates Brandon firing half the roll?

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Speaker 3: All right, I like it my first pick.

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Speaker 5: I also have the Bucks. I'm more conservative, which is

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Speaker 5: thirty on ten and a half.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: This has been one of my favorite bets over the

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Speaker 5: last three seasons. Mike Budenholzer with the Milwaukee Bucks against

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Speaker 5: a division team as a double digit favorite is fourteen

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Speaker 5: and five against the Sprint. It is just a great

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Speaker 5: that was the thing it used to be. It used

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Speaker 5: you're under ten, you got to hammer it. And they've

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Speaker 5: think they're maybe starting to get it going. Part of

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Speaker 5: trying to adjust Drew holiday in. Drew's playing well, but

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Speaker 5: it's like the interchangeability. Right, if Bloodsow didn't have it going,

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Speaker 5: George Hill would play well. If George Hill didn't play well,

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Speaker 3: Now they've had to.

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Speaker 5: Clear out some spots in their front court's a little

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Speaker 5: Detroit has been frisky, Jeremy Grant's playing great, betting on

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Speaker 5: Fifty nine percent of the money, ninety seven percent of

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Speaker 5: This line moved from eleven and a half to ten

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Speaker 5: tell you my second bet. My second side. I put

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Speaker 5: Lonzo balls back to being Lonzo Ball. I just wind

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Speaker 5: I'm willing to go ahead and let the Pelicans like

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Speaker 5: Zion and Steven Adams going against that front court. Everyone

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Speaker 5: loves Ihaka Zubach because of like, he looks good for

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Speaker 5: to be able to compete. They're also a really good

439
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Speaker 5: defensive team, and I like the ability to drag this

440
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Speaker 5: game down. They're playing at a slow pace. Drag this

441
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Speaker 5: game down, keep it tight, stay within seven and a half.

442
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Speaker 3: I'm not going have me on it, but I'm going

443
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Speaker 3: to that spot. Don't fill up on Brad Brandon, what's

444
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Speaker 3: your second beat? For the buffet?

445
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Speaker 2: So I'm playing the same game, but I'm on the

446
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Speaker 2: other side on this one. I covered this game on

447
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Speaker 2: a game guide for our site, and the thing that

448
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Speaker 2: stood out to me is that these teams, the Clippers

449
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Speaker 2: and the Pelicans, ranked first and second in the entire

450
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: NBA in least two pointer attempts allowed. So basically they

451
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Speaker 2: are taking away the twos and forcing you to beat

452
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 2: them with threes. This turns into shooting contest. Then you

453
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Speaker 2: look at three point percentage, which is not always reliable,

454
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Speaker 2: but one of these teams is first in the league

455
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Speaker 2: at three point percentage. That's the Clippers at forty two percent.

456
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Speaker 2: The Pelicans are dead last at thirty two percent. If

457
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Speaker 2: this turns into a shooting contest, I got Paul George

458
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Speaker 2: kawhi Lu, I got shooters Canard, and then on the

459
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Speaker 2: other side, I'm got Eric Bledsoe, Lonzo Ball, Zion Adams.

460
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Speaker 2: If this is turning into three point contests, that helps

461
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Speaker 2: the spread a little bit. This was at six when

462
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Speaker 2: I wrote it yesterday. I like it a little better

463
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Speaker 2: there at seven and a half. It's definitely losing some

464
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Speaker 2: of that value. So I'm fifteen dollars. I'm the Clippers

465
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Speaker 2: to cover the seven and a half. I think the

466
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: Pelicans will dominate the glass. There are reasons I agree

467
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Speaker 2: with a lot of the Mapp said, this is not

468
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Speaker 2: a team I feel super confident of the Clippers. That's

469
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Speaker 2: why I'm a little lower on this. But I think

470
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Speaker 2: in the end it's going to be a shooting contest

471
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Speaker 2: and you take the best shooting team, not the worst one.

472
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Speaker 4: You know what. So interesting, I'm on the same exact game.

473
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Speaker 7: Oh wow, I like the over this totally govern This

474
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 7: total got steamed down from two twenty to eighteen. And

475
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Speaker 7: for me, even though these teams are bottom five and paced,

476
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Speaker 7: like Brandon said, I think we're going to see a

477
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Speaker 7: shooting contest. The Pelicans are allowing forty eight percent of

478
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 7: opponent field goal attempts to come from behind the arc.

479
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 7: When you look at the Clippers, they're making the highest

480
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Speaker 7: percentage of three point field goals and a half percent.

481
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Speaker 7: So I mean what I see, We're going to see

482
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Speaker 7: a lot of open threes for kop Pg Batoom, Lou Williams,

483
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Speaker 7: Luke Kennar. And if this turns into a shooting contest,

484
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Speaker 7: this is going over the Clippers. They're giving up one

485
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Speaker 7: hundred and ten points a game and a whopping one

486
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 7: hundred and thirteen points per one hundred possessions. Which is

487
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 7: twenty fifth in the league. They're giving up the fourth

488
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 7: worst effective field goal percentage this season. The Pelicans are

489
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Speaker 7: going to be able to get theirs at the rem

490
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Speaker 7: I've seen no reason why this doesn't go over. I

491
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Speaker 7: think it got steamed down, but I just don't agree

492
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Speaker 7: with it. My total has this a little bit higher,

493
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Speaker 7: So I'm rolling with the over.

494
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Speaker 5: I like that play a lot, Brandon, what's your third pick?

495
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Speaker 2: So I'm still home in North Dakota. This is hockey

496
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Speaker 2: season up here, and while we're talking to COVID, I

497
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Speaker 2: just want to point out then, I can't believe this

498
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Speaker 2: is an actual sentence. The NBA could have learned a

499
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Speaker 2: lot from the NHL. On COVID. How is it true

500
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: that the NBA could learn from the NHL. How has

501
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: that ever been true anytime in my lifetime? So just

502
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: to point out, the NHL season starts tonight. They delayed

503
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 2: two months, which was a good idea, not rushing the

504
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 2: entire season. Is doubleheaders or even triple headers like the

505
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: NBA has done a little bit of, But they're doing

506
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: that to keep teams in one place at once. They

507
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: scrapped the entire conference. They scrapped the divisions. They have

508
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: entirely new divisions just for this season, and you only

509
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: play your division the entire season. You only play your division.

510
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: Then in the playoffs you only play your division until

511
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Speaker 2: you get down to one, and then the last four

512
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: teams of the conference, semis and the Stanley Cup. It's different,

513
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: but guess what, it's COVID. This is different. We could

514
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: have done that, and I don't know. That's that's just

515
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Speaker 2: I was shocked to see that they're down to fifty

516
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 2: six games instead of eighty two. The seventy two thing

517
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: we're trying to do is too much. It didn't work.

518
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 2: I'm talking Minnesota because I'm going with the Minnesota Timberwolves here. Also,

519
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns hopefully is back. If he's not in it,

520
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: I don't want to play this one as much, but

521
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: it looks like he should play. I'm taking the over

522
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: against fake Grizzlies over two hundred twenty one point five

523
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: right now. The Grizzlies offense sucks, but so does the

524
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: Timbrelves defense. Someone's gonna score, that's my Timbrols. We don't defend.

525
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: We haven't defended since like the Kevin Garnett era. Which

526
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: was the only era, and the Wolves are gonna score

527
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: with Towns, Beasley Dillo out there, it's a Wolves over.

528
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: You always feel good about a Wolves over. At two

529
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: twenty one, you're basically getting the discount that the Grizzlies

530
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: offense has been so bad lately. But I like them

531
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: enough to score a bunch and get to that two

532
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: twenty one and a half. So that's ten dollars on

533
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: the over for me.

534
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: All right.

535
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: I like that one, okay, so I'm gonna stick there

536
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: for my third one.

537
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 3: Uh.

538
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Speaker 5: This is actually one of my little pieces, non side

539
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: nine total. I've been playing a lot of these quarter

540
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 5: plays this season. I like the spot to be able

541
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 5: to bet against lineups and bet against I want to

542
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 5: contain the.

543
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Speaker 3: Chaos the NBA.

544
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 5: Like if you have a game capped right and you

545
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 5: have just absolutely like you picked it perfect, but then

546
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 5: when do you get the third quarter that you didn't

547
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 5: expect and winds up hitting four threes and like that,

548
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 5: it blows your total, blows your over, but whatever, like

549
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 5: it drives me insane, So I'm trying to be narrow.

550
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 5: I am going with Wolves Grizzlies under second quarter fifty

551
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 5: three and a half Okay, you can get this at

552
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 5: several books, so I'm not out.

553
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: There on the line.

554
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 5: Yes, the limits are lower, but I'm only putting fifteen

555
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 5: dollars on it. And the reason I'm going with the

556
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 5: under on that, I agree with your with your cap

557
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 5: on the total. But a lot of that is the

558
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 5: Grizzlies in the second quarter. They can't score and nobody

559
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 5: else does either. They're the only team with a sub

560
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 5: one hundred defensive rating in the second quarter. No matter

561
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 5: who's been out jog Goes out, Jared Jackson. Their bench

562
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 5: unit defends like crazy. They just really dig in. That's

563
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 5: coaching we're seeing. I'm nosing a lot as betting these.

564
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: The coaching advantages have the benches playing better defense.

565
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: Because the coaches are actually like, I care how you play.

566
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 5: It's not just I need you to get me minutes

567
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 5: to get back to the starters. So yeah, like the

568
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 5: Wolves can absolutely light it up. But the Wolves second unit.

569
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: Actually isn't that good in the second quarter.

570
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: If you look at it, the under and second quarters

571
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 5: for the Grizzlies are seven and three. The under and

572
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 5: second quarters for the Wolves are six and four. So

573
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 5: I got two teams were more often than not. They

574
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 5: hit the they hit the unders. Now the numbers low.

575
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 5: But at this number, all I'm really saying here is

576
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 5: neither team scores thirty in.

577
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 3: The second quarter. That's all I need.

578
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 5: I just need neither team to score thirty in the

579
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 5: second quarter, and I'm fine, and I feel like I'm

580
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 5: good there, So I'm gonna go ahead and take that underplay.

581
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 5: I am also going to take for my total, I'm

582
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 5: putting thirty dollars Blazers King's over thirty six. The Kings

583
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 5: of a lot of one hundred and twenty points or

584
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 5: more in like five of their last six games. The

585
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 5: Blazers can't stop anybody. This defense is horrendous, and it's

586
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 5: horrendous all the way through. The starters can't defend, the

587
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 5: reserves can't defend. Like there's no lineup shift to where

588
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 5: you're gonna have like a down quarter. The Kings they

589
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 5: could score against anybody, they just can't get stops. So

590
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 5: even at two thirty six, I feel like this number

591
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 5: is gonna be up there in the two forties. I

592
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 5: just feel like both teams are gonna wind up putting

593
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty plus. I thought about taking the

594
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 5: Kings after the Blazers blast of them last game. But

595
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: I wound up just being like, let's just let's be conservative.

596
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 5: Neither of these teams can defend. Both these teams play

597
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 5: relatively fast. Let's go with the over. So I'm taking

598
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 5: over to thirty six. Raheem, do you have a third bet?

599
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm forcing this one. I'm going with the Blazers

600
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: first quarter.

601
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 7: It came out really rough against the Raptors, who've kind

602
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 7: of had their number a little bit over the last

603
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 7: couple of years. I think I'm just gonna go with

604
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 7: the better offense. I think you know, Dame and Cja

605
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 7: come out hot. I think the Kings played a little

606
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 7: bit over their head against you know, the Pacers. So

607
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 7: I'm going with the Blazers first quarter minus one. I

608
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 7: don't like it, I don't really love it, but that's

609
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 7: what I'm going with.

610
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 4: All right.

611
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 5: So Raheem's got thirty three on the Hornets, thirty three

612
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: in the over Cluppers Pelicans, thirty three on Blazer's first

613
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 5: quart order. Brandon's got fifty on the Bucks because he's bold.

614
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: Clippers minus seven and a half or fifteen ten bucks

615
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: on the Wolves over Brandon what else do you have

616
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 5: on your slate.

617
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me give you two quick props. Our

618
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: props have been killing la Lely. You got to get

619
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: on and get the get the subscription to labs and

620
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: one of the props. Today, I'm going ten dollars on

621
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: Brook Lopez over half an assist. All he's got to

622
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: do is just get one. So this is where our

623
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: tool is really useful right now. That's at minus two

624
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: fifteen at fan Duel, that's at minus one eighteen at

625
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: bet MGM. That is like half the juice, and our

626
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: tool is pointing out giving you the best line out there.

627
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: Lopez had no assist his first five games. He's had

628
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 2: at least one assist in four or six since his

629
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: minutes have gone up from twenty two per game to

630
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: thirty one per game. I mentioned that earlier as the

631
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: defense Improving. Fans projection has him at two point four

632
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: assists tonight, which is definitely more than a half. And

633
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: is that a thirty seven percent edge. The next highest

634
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: edge on our entire slate tonight is twenty. So I

635
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: got ten dollars on that. I got fifteen dollars on

636
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram over five and a half rebounds. Ingram's rebounding

637
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: is a career high right now. He definitely got stronger

638
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: in the offseason. He's at seven point one per game.

639
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: He's gotten over five and a half rebounds in seven

640
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: out of nine games. The Pelicans are a great rebounding team.

641
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: The Clippers are not a great rebounding team. So I

642
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: got fifteen bucks on Ingram over that's at minus one

643
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: to eighteen at bet MGM as well right now.

644
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: And for my last one, I am going back to

645
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: the well and I am going to put together a parlay,

646
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: just a sprinkle, just a sprinkle, fifteen dollars Nick's money

647
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 5: line plus one ninety five versus the Nets on the

648
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 5: back to back and Hornets plus one fifty five. I'm

649
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 5: with Rahemo betting against the Mavericks shorthanded. I think that

650
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 5: that line is not indicative of what's going We see

651
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 5: the line movement going the other way. I looked up

652
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 5: the Nets versus top ten defensive teams have been wretched,

653
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 5: just wretched. No Kyrie Irving, of course, no Spencer Dinwity.

654
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: The Knicks are competitive. Yeah, they're gonna get blasted some games,

655
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 5: but they're gonna hang in in a lot of these.

656
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: I like their chances.

657
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 5: I don't like the chances of Kate at these is

658
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: a letdown spot after a big win and a comeback

659
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: effort versus the Nuggets last night. I like the spot.

660
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 5: So I'm going with the parlay that's gonna wrap up

661
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: the Wednesday night NBA buffet. All right, it's time for

662
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 5: crazy pills?

663
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: And now am I taking crazy pills with Matt Moore?

664
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: Doesn't anyone notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills?

665
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 5: All right, guys, So the NBA protocols. I understand that

666
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: a lot went into this. There's a lot of moving factors.

667
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 5: I've talked to people in the league this week to

668
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: get a sense of where they're at with all this

669
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 5: COVID stuff. Some of this stuff is just insane. And

670
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 5: I have two particular things that I'm just like, am

671
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 5: I am I insane?

672
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: Why did you do this?

673
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 5: The first one goes back to Saturday with the Sixers

674
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 5: debacle versus the Nuggets. I went back and I watched

675
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: the Nets games versus the Sixers, and it was the

676
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 5: last game and be played before he did look stiff.

677
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 5: I believe his back was sore. It's Joelle Embiid. He

678
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 5: misses the game every like every three days with some

679
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 5: sort of injury. That's part of it. Simmons is pretty legit,

680
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 5: like when he's hurt, he's hurt.

681
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: I get it.

682
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: But those guys, by all accounts, were like good to play,

683
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 5: and then they weren't. And the reason was the league

684
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 5: cleared them two hours before the game. Like the Sixers

685
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: were like, we're not playing this game. We don't have anybody.

686
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 5: We don't have anybody, and all of a sudden, the

687
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 5: League's like, uh, they're clear.

688
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: Do you got to play? You have enough?

689
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 5: And like Doc Rivers openly said, we don't want to

690
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: play this game. We feel like we should not be

691
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: playing this game. The NBA has got to move the

692
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: clearance time for Protoco call back twelve hours.

693
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: If you move it back twelve hours.

694
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 5: And you say by one am before your one pm

695
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 5: tip off, if Joel Embiid's not cleared, he's not available

696
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: for that game. That's a pretty simple fix. And then

697
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 5: the Sixers have twelve hours to make the decision on

698
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: whether or not they're gonna play him, versus like two hours.

699
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 5: And then we find out like thirty minutes before those

700
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: guys are a scratch, and certain people who may have

701
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: bet on the Sixers in that game that are on

702
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 5: this podcast might be bothered by what they had decided

703
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 5: to do on the money line.

704
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: But that's like, I'm not trying to make this about

705
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: the betting.

706
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 5: It's not like, oh, I'm not complaining about players related

707
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 5: to the fantasy teams or betting or whatever.

708
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: This is just like a simple fix.

709
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: Guys, move back the thing twelve hours so that there's

710
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 5: more of a time for us to get this sense.

711
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: I know why they did it, because their thought was like, well,

712
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 5: you want every opportunity to win. If you can get

713
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 5: him cleared for a big, important game, you want him there. Hi,

714
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: I have a news flash for you. No coach thinks

715
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 5: any regular season game matters, none of them. Nobody thinks

716
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 5: any of these games actually matter because it's always the

717
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 5: season's too long, which we'll get to in a second.

718
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: But am I taking crazy bills? You're Brandon.

719
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. It comes back to the

720
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: same thing every time, the almighty dollar. We gotta get

721
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: the games on TV, we gotta get the revenue, we

722
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: gotta get the ads coming in. The Sixers game was

723
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: on NBA TV. There's a game a couple of nights ago,

724
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: another one on NBA TV. They keep getting down to

725
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: these last second decisions because they're like, we gotta fill

726
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: the TV schedule, we gotta get the money, and we

727
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: gotta have stuff to air. And it's the same. It's

728
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: the heartbeat of this entire problem. It's why we started

729
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: too soon because we had to have the money. It's

730
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: why we have seventy two games, not fifty six or

731
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: whatever else. We have to have the money. It's it's

732
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: always about the money, and we are trying to push

733
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: to get every game we can, get every eyeball we can.

734
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy. We have to consider a player health,

735
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: we have to consider the better is at home. Maybe

736
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: not quite on the same level, but it's ridiculous that

737
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: we're waiting so long on these decisions. And it's I

738
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: feel like we're trying to push the limits to do

739
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: the most we possibly can in this COVID pandemic thing.

740
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: And you look at the other sports that have been successful,

741
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: including the NBA in the bubble when it was it

742
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: didn't push the limits. It said, okay, let's push it

743
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: the other way. How much can we pull in and

744
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: be safe and change everything around and make it fit,

745
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: not try to push down to the last second, push

746
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: every player out, push every game out. It's too much.

747
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like I'm with you on the money on

748
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: all of this.

749
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 5: It's also one of things that I was bothered by

750
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 5: is if you're the Nuggets, you didn't know who we

751
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 5: were playing, or if you were playing until two hours

752
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 5: before the game, that's just I'm sorry. Players are creatures

753
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 5: of habit and they need things in a stable environment.

754
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: They needed to be like you're going to go here,

755
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: you're gonna do this.

756
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 5: You're gonna take a nap, you're gonna get up, you're

757
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 5: gonna go the arena, you're gonna play like. You have

758
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 5: to maintain that. When you throw uncertainty of these situations,

759
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: it causes more stress, which we want the best games possible,

760
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 5: like this is one of the things is I've been

761
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: preaching about this. The NBA needs to focus more on

762
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 5: getting good games than getting the most games, and they

763
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 5: just won't do it. And that gets into my other thing,

764
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 5: Rahiem that I'm absolutely just furious about why are we

765
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: doing non con games? Why why are these guys we

766
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: have a game tonight non con like we had a

767
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 5: game postponed because the Sun's played the way, Why why

768
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 5: are we doing non conference games?

769
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: These games? I will tell you this. I have covered the.

770
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 5: NBA playoffs and the playoff picture for twelve years now.

771
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: It does not those games are the least important. They

772
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: don't wind up affecting tie breakers, they don't end up

773
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: wanting affecting divisions. You play the other teams more so,

774
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 5: that's where the differential comes in. They're random and half

775
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 5: the time guys are out. Anyway, if we're gonna go

776
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 5: ahead and say that the regular season doesn't matter, let's

777
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 5: at least make the regular season games that don't matter

778
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 5: the most that they can. Why are we playing these

779
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 5: non con games? Why did the NBA not pod these

780
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 5: teams to contain spread Because this is one of the

781
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 5: things that you got now is like if the Wizard's

782
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 5: thing isn't coincidental, but this is one of the things.

783
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 5: It's like they're playing teams, and then those teams are

784
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 5: playing teams. If you had just potted them for just

785
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: the first two months of the season, you have a break.

786
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: You have a break in the middle of the season.

787
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 5: You can backload with all these different matchups front load

788
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: with like six to seven teams, keep them potted so

789
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 5: that you can contain the amount of travel and spread

790
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 5: for these teams. I understand that the the Orlando Magic

791
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 5: would like the TV revenue from the ratings from Lebron coming.

792
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 3: It's not we're in a pandemic.

793
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: No, my nuts, you're not nuts.

794
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you what's driving me crazy because the

795
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 7: other night, Colin Sexton was an announced in literally two

796
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 7: minutes before the game, and then one minute later they

797
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 7: say he's not playing. And it's just like, at some

798
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 7: point we gotta have some type of injury tomline a

799
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 7: half hour, twenty minutes an hour. There's no reason why

800
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 7: Colin Sesston should be announced in the line up ten

801
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 7: minutes before the game and then one minute before the

802
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 7: game he's just not playing like they especially, I mean,

803
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 7: if we're gonna have legalized gambling and legalized daily fantasy

804
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 7: where there's a market, it's only right.

805
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: For the public to know.

806
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: The pomp thing just makes too much sense. Like again

807
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: back to the NHL thing, because that's essentially what they're doing.

808
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: The pods. They've got like a Canada division, so they

809
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: have seven Canadian hockey teams basically playing around robin all year.

810
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: So let me paying a different picture. Here's what the

811
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: season could have been for us. We could have had Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, Sons.

812
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: They could have been battling like seven eight times during

813
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: the season and then playing again in the playoffs after

814
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: they already hate each other. We could have Nets, Celtics, Sixers, Raptors,

815
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: battling all season long, staying local, cutting travel, cutting budget

816
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: because that matters, remember, and staying safer. Even if you

817
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: get some sort of outbreak, you only outbreak one pod.

818
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: You delay a little bit, you shuffle it up and

819
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: try again. It's what we should have been doing. It

820
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: would have been great. It would have been a welcome change.

821
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: It would have been different. But that's okay, it's different.

822
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: We're in a different season. That's all we should have done.

823
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: We missed the ball.

824
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 7: You even could have realized some of the divisions, Like

825
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 7: if you look at you know, the Pelicans, they could

826
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 7: have been playing the Magic or you know, I think

827
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 7: that's what they did in baseball, like to the point

828
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 7: where the Orioles will play the Phillies all the time

829
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 7: and the Oreos will play the Yankees, and you know

830
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 7: those Phillies will played the red side, so you basically

831
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 7: just you know, group the pods into different areas.

832
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 5: And I just I don't know this concern about like, oh,

833
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: be unbalanced because you'd have to play tougher teams again,

834
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 5: just like it's a pandemic. Guys, like deal with it, Like,

835
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you might have to play the Lakers five times.

836
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

837
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 7: This is how it goes, and it evens out at

838
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 7: the end of the day because you're going to play

839
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 7: a team in that conference who's not as good.

840
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's absolutely ridiculous. All right, let's go back

841
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 5: to the future.

842
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: Back to the future. It's a ton of me let

843
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: me back all right, this is back for the future.

844
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 5: We are going to break down one future that we

845
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: wished that we got on before the season, and possibly

846
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 5: that we might get on now, even though the value

847
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 5: has significantly shifted.

848
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 3: Brandon, what's yours?

849
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: All right?

850
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: So my back to the future. I've been taking a

851
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: look at the most improved player race, and I think

852
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: there's still value to play here. Right now, you're probably

853
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: thinking I'm going with a Christian Wood, maybe a Jeremy Grant,

854
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 2: or Julius Randall. Those are the three betting favorites right now.

855
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: That is not the sort of player that wins Most Improved.

856
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: Here's the last six most improved winners. Brandon Ingram, Pascal Siakam,

857
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: Victor Oladipo, Jannas Sando de Cumpo, CJ. McCollum, Jimmy Butler

858
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: All Stars. These are not good player. These are not

859
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: like fine players who suddenly looked good one year. Julius Randall,

860
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: great numbers, Jeremy Grant been really good. Christian Wood nice numbers.

861
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: That reminds me of Devonte Graham last season, earlier in

862
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 2: the year, or someone like that, where it's like, okay,

863
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: oh hey, you're good. Now, that's fun. You're improved. Jalen Brown,

864
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: that's the most improved player. You see it on the court.

865
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: His playmaking is huge, His assistan rate is almost double

866
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: from last year. His three point percentage great. He's at

867
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: twenty six points a game right now. If you had

868
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: to think about who's the Boston Celtics best player right now,

869
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: the point is you have to think about it, you

870
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: have to actually decide it probably is still Tatum, but

871
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: that's not an indictment. Of Jason Tatum. That is how

872
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: good Jalen Brown has been this year. And if you

873
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 2: follow me in the past, I have not spoken glowing

874
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: leave Jalen Brown.

875
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: Before.

876
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: I thought he was the Celtics fourth or fifth best

877
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: player last year, he is not. He is right there

878
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: with Tatum. He's helping carry that team. It was thirty

879
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: three hundred to start the season, but the good news

880
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: is it's still at eighteen hundred at draftings right now.

881
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: There's still value there. And most Improved is not about

882
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 2: a guy who's finally kind of good now. It's about

883
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: by the end of the season, we want that player

884
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: to carry the mantle for us. We want an All

885
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 2: Star right now. Jalen Brown is not just an All Star.

886
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: If you had to make an All Star team, he's

887
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: got a case to be an All Star starter. He's

888
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: really good. If he keeps playing like this, he's going

889
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: to maybe be in the All NBA discussion. That's the

890
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: sort of guy we pick for this award down the list.

891
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: Just to shot a couple other names, Sa Bonus and

892
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray are two other names that I think could

893
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: be in the mix. Murray not yet, but he opened

894
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: as the favorite This is like a reverse back to

895
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: the future. He's down to plus eight thousand right now,

896
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: so that could be a chance to buy low, have

897
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: the guy that was the favorite, who cares about these

898
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: first ten games. If he turns around and comes back

899
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: to what we saw earlier. But Jalen Brown's my pack.

900
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: I like him to win the award.

901
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 5: That's phenomenal, all right, raheem yours, that's a really good pick.

902
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: Bright.

903
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 7: Now, I'm going with Lebron James to win MVP. I

904
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 7: know it might sound crazy, but it's not a normal

905
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 7: year when you I mean, when you look everything, the

906
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 7: Lakers are just sleepwalking to the number one seed.

907
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: If you got the number one seed, more often than not.

908
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 7: You're going to get the MV pit, you know, the

909
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 7: the like if you look at all the MVP Awards

910
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 7: since nineteen eighty five, the MVP Award winner hasn't won

911
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 7: it with less than a two seed. You know, it's

912
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 7: only happened twice, Michael Jordan in nineteen eighty seven. Russell Wilson, Yeah, Westbrook,

913
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 7: I mean that's pretty much it, you know. I look

914
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 7: at Lebron James. This is his opportunity to get one last,

915
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 7: one last MVP. We all know he wanted it last year,

916
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 7: they didn't give.

917
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: It to him.

918
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 7: Now, you know, with all these guys getting sick from

919
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 7: COVID or sitting out or you know, their team's being impacted,

920
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 7: I think this is one last opportunity for the voters

921
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 7: to give it to him. Like right now, there's still

922
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 7: some value on it at plus eleven hundred, But I mean,

923
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 7: I think everybody counted them out.

924
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: I think a lot of these teams aren't, you know,

925
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: just they're just not doing as well.

926
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 7: Giannis isn't gonna get it again, Lucas team isn't good enough,

927
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 7: I think, and b you know, he's always going to

928
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 7: go down with the injury. All it takes is for

929
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 7: Lebron to have a good two week span. We saw

930
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 7: him close out a game the other day against the Bulls.

931
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 7: Anthony Davis has been in and out of the lineup.

932
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 7: I think that's.

933
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 4: The future that I wish I had put in because

934
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: I think all that's gonna take is for a couple

935
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: of good performances and he'll be at the top of

936
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 4: the list.

937
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 5: I don't mind it. I'm still not crazy about it.

938
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 5: I didn't like it preseason. I just I mean a

939
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 5: lot of it is Davis is getting.

940
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: A lot more.

941
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 5: Credit he deserves, but like just like a lot of credit,

942
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: and so like what winds up happening is there's gonna

943
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 5: be like a competing narrative push there, and that's gonna

944
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 5: diffuse things a little bit, and I'm concerned about that.

945
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 5: I also am not sold on them coasting to the

946
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 5: number one seed. When they look good like they did

947
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 5: versus the Rockets, You're like, this is the best team

948
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: in basketball, They're gonna win the title. Feel great about

949
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: my Lakers title future, feel great about it. But but

950
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 5: pushing for that one seed, there's gonna be some team

951
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: that goes on a roll in the West, whether it's

952
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: the Suns, the Clippers, somebody. Somebody's gonna get hot and push.

953
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 5: And I just don't know if Lebron's gonna play all

954
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 5: the way through. I did ask, how many games do

955
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: these guys need to play to be I asked a couple

956
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 5: of voters that, and they were like, fifty five.

957
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: That's like the answer is fifty five.

958
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: People.

959
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 5: I just feel like he's already been banged up a

960
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 5: little bit, like he's had like a there's been a

961
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: bunch of he's probable and then he plays, which again

962
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 5: as a testament to his professional as like he takes

963
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 5: the stuff very seriously, which I really respect about Lebron.

964
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Like Lebron's not like, ooh, I don't know, I don't

965
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: feel so good.

966
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 5: I'm out, Like He's like no, like unless I cannot play,

967
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: I'm going to play.

968
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: And I appreciate that about him.

969
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: Lebron James oldest starting player in the NBA.

970
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: But I can't go with you on that one.

971
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 5: I will say, in a lot of recent events, wish

972
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: I'd taken the Rockets under Moore. That's the thing that

973
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 5: I wish I stayed away from it, not knowing what

974
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 5: was going to happen.

975
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: What hang on, I'm getting receiving word everyone in the

976
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: NBA has been traded. That's okay.

977
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: That's gonna have to change some of our numbers after

978
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 5: we record this podcast in the afternoon. James Harden was

979
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 5: traded by the Houston Rockets. Here are the details as

980
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 5: we know them right now, and I have to pull

981
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 5: up a file because that's how long it is.

982
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: The Nets get James Harden.

983
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: The Calves get Jared Allen, and Torreon Prince the Pacers

984
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: get Keris Lavert, the Rockets get Victor Oladipo, Dante exem

985
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 5: rodeons ca Roots, four first round picks, and four draft swaps,

986
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: because obviously nothing's ever gone wrong when the Nets over

987
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 5: leverage themselves in the draft. All right, guys, there's a

988
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 5: million angles to take on this.

989
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: Let's start with Brooklyn. Okay, uh.

990
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 5: Brooklyn moves significantly in the market after this trade. They

991
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 5: are now minus fifty five to win the Atlantic Division.

992
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: When we go to.

993
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 5: Their championship odds, they've moved to plus two seventy, right

994
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 5: behind the Lakers at plus two sixty. The Nets are

995
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: the odds on favorite to win the Eastern Conference at

996
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 5: plus one point twenty. The Bucks now move to plus

997
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 5: three fifty. Brandon, let's start with you for the Nets.

998
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: What's your reaction?

999
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: I love it for the Nets. I feel like you

1000
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: gotta do it. It's James Harden. I know that. The

1001
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: reaction here is how are they gonna defend? How are

1002
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: they gonna get rebounds? They just trade Jared Allen. Jared

1003
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: Allen is nice. Allen's nice, He's a nice center. You

1004
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: don't not trade Jared Allen. If James Harden is the prize.

1005
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: You basically upgrade Lavert to James Harden here, duh, no brainer.

1006
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: The cost is Jared Allen in the playoffs. I want

1007
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant at center anyways. I also like Jeff Green

1008
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: on this team. I can't believe I like Jeff Green

1009
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 2: as a sentence. I just said, but he was good

1010
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: as a small ball five last year with James Harden,

1011
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: and I think that he could fill in some of

1012
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: those minutes. But the Nets were not good at defense.

1013
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: They weren't good at rebounding. Jared Allen wasn't fixing that anyway,

1014
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: So that can't be the reason not to do this.

1015
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't buy the thing about well there's only one basketball,

1016
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: how are they gonna play? You know who's not on

1017
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: our Olympics team, Kris Lavert and Jared Allen. We put

1018
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: our best players out there and they do just fine.

1019
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: So if you get hardened, what is Harden is thirty one,

1020
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: twenty eight, Durant is thirty two. This is the window.

1021
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm all in on the Nets,

1022
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: but if you like the nuts before, you should like

1023
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 2: them more now because this is they have the same flaws.

1024
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: But they're better at the good stuff. And I'm gonna

1025
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: be a really hard team to defend Durant at the five.

1026
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: Put Harris and Shaman or other shooters out there, it's

1027
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. I like it.

1028
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think you're insane. And here's why I

1029
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 5: think too. For starters, Like look at the Eastern Conference,

1030
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to go through Joel Embiid. They're gonna

1031
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 5: have to go through Demosa Bonus and Miles Turner. Like,

1032
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 5: you can't be playing Kad versus Joel Embiid. That's not

1033
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 5: an option a lot of the time. Also, Katie's not

1034
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 5: gonna want to play five. He's not gonna want to

1035
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 5: play five. And if he doesn't want to play five,

1036
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 5: then guess what you got a lot DeAndre Jordan minutes.

1037
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 5: Like this is part of this is that they cleared

1038
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 5: out Jared Allen to get their buddy DeAndre Jordan more minutes.

1039
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: That's bad for Brooklyn.

1040
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 5: When I looked at the remaining roster, they they still

1041
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 5: do have like a lot of guys like Brown's playing

1042
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: so well, like he played really well in that Nuggets game.

1043
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 5: You can talk yourself into this. Joe Harris they're undersized,

1044
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 5: they're trying to just score. I just feel like a

1045
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 5: lot of their stability gets messed up here. It depends

1046
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 5: on how much the bench units are gonna roll out overall.

1047
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 5: Like is it like there's a lot of star power

1048
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 5: and they can score. But when we compare this to

1049
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 5: like the last Big Three, like the Triad in Miami

1050
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: with Bosh and Wade and Lebron, all three of those

1051
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 5: guys could defend, All three of those guys could pass,

1052
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 5: All three of those guys could score.

1053
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: You do not have that here. That is not what

1054
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: you have, Raheem, what's your take?

1055
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: It's extremely redundant.

1056
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 7: And I think they're lacking bodies on a team where

1057
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 7: one of their star players is a erratic and capable

1058
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 7: of anything, like he was on a zoom call last night. Wow,

1059
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 7: the rest of his team was playing basketball. This team

1060
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 7: has no wings. The second best wing is Jeff Green.

1061
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 4: Like, I just don't understand, you know what they were

1062
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: trying to accomplish with the drink.

1063
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 7: I think you get scoring, but who plays on ball?

1064
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 7: Who plays off ball? I think Harten is the best

1065
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 7: playmaker of the bunch. But is Kyrie gonna be happy

1066
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 7: with playing off ball. It's Harton gonna be playing happy

1067
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 7: with playing off ball. I just think you created more

1068
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 7: problems than you know, than actually solved any problems here.

1069
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the issues here and I just

1070
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: I don't really like it.

1071
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: Do we think that there's value on anybody else in

1072
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference? Like, does this make Milwaukee more valuable?

1073
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: Moon to plus three fifty?

1074
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: That's what caught my attention. I was already looking at Milwaukee.

1075
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: I feel like they're playing well. Their offense is on

1076
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: the fire, the defense is getting better. I was already

1077
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 2: looking for an opportunity to bet the Bucks, and this

1078
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: is the opportunity, I think, because now the opps just flipped,

1079
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: like basically Brooklyn became the team debat and everyone's gonna

1080
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: overlook Milwaukee. So this is the spot if you've been

1081
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: waiting on the box, if you believe the team either

1082
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: to win the East or to win the finals, this

1083
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: is the spot because this is where the odds just dropped.

1084
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: And I think there's value on them now more than

1085
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: them than thats.

1086
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: So for me, I think one of the big takeaways

1087
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 5: shifting away for the Nets, this is gonna be a

1088
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 5: source of I think contention amongst our group because Brian

1089
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 5: Meres popped into our slack and was like, I want

1090
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: to get Maverick's Division odds. After this move Southwest Division odds,

1091
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: Mavericks moved to minus one seventy five. The Rockets have

1092
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 5: dropped to plus sixteen one hundred. John Wall, Victor Oladipo,

1093
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 5: Christian Wood To, Marcus Cousins, PJ. Tucker, Eric Gordon, Daniel House,

1094
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: other guys. Dante Exhem like, I I think I'm gonna

1095
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 5: bet the Rockets to win the division. I think I'm

1096
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 5: gonna like sixteen hundred is really good value year, Like

1097
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 5: this team is not bad, Like they're just not They

1098
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 5: gonna have to a rough start because half their guys

1099
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: were out. They lost twice to the Lakers, because the

1100
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 5: Lakers are the best team in the league.

1101
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: Rahim, am I crazy here? I think there's value on Houston.

1102
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 7: Don't think you're crazy, Like I don't think you're crazy

1103
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 7: at all. Like I'm not. I'm not mad at it

1104
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 7: at all. I still think that I still think the

1105
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 7: Mavericks are, you know, the team to beat, but you

1106
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 7: know it's seventy five. I can't I can't be mad

1107
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 7: at laying at price, no on the Mavericks. But at

1108
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 7: the same time, you know, the sixteen hundred is I'm

1109
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 7: not mad at it.

1110
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 4: I'm not taking it, but I'm not mad at it

1111
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: like I like Pelicans.

1112
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 5: Nope, can't score Lonzo Balls regressed, Zion Williams.

1113
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: Williamson's gonna be out for a little bit with with

1114
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: COVID stuff.

1115
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 5: Grizzlies, no Jared Jackson, still no Justice Winslow, no John

1116
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 5: Moran for a while, spurs LaMarcus Aldridge is a thing,

1117
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 5: Like it's really just Mavericks and Rockets, and I'm getting

1118
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 5: sixteen one one, But yeah, I gotta I'm gonna get

1119
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 5: in on that.

1120
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: Let's go Pacers. They lose Oladipot.

1121
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 5: A laitue source I was texting with, told me that

1122
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 5: they've been hard shopping to get off of him for months,

1123
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 5: that he still wanted out. He was unhappy. The injury

1124
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 5: stuff was a problem. They were building around Brogden and

1125
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 5: some bonus that's their team.

1126
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 7: Uh.

1127
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 5: And Lavert gives them a guy that wanted a bigger role,

1128
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 5: which he'll have replaces some of Oladipot, replaces a little

1129
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 5: bit of what they've lost with TJ. Warren I think

1130
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 5: this is a really good move for the Pacers. Even

1131
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 5: if I liked Ola Depot's ceiling a lot more, I

1132
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 5: don't think that this moves anything in terms of the

1133
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 5: odds because I can't get into the idea of the

1134
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 5: Pacers winning in the division. I've thought about it, but

1135
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 5: I can't get I can't tuck myself into it. Brandon,

1136
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 5: this is you know, Midwest, you were neck of the woods.

1137
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: Thoughts on the.

1138
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: Pacers, Yeah, I mean I love it for the Pacers

1139
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: for a lot of the reasons you said. I can't

1140
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: think of what the betting angle is either. For the

1141
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: same reason, like there's a ceiling on the team out

1142
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: of the Pacers are not going to win the East

1143
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: now that they always were a team that could win

1144
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: around and then be a tough second round out. That's

1145
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: basically what they are now. But if you look at

1146
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: the numbers this year between Oladipo and Lavert, they're pretty

1147
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: close to identical. Their shooting numbers are similar. I think

1148
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: Ola Depo we have this one great year and it's

1149
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: it's been a minute, like it's been a while since

1150
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: we've seen that Ola Depot. I don't know that that

1151
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: ceiling is there anymore. It definitely wasn't on the Pacers.

1152
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: It maybe can get there on the Rockets or whatever

1153
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: team they trade him to to get off even more

1154
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: money in a few months, because it's definitely happening. But

1155
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: as for the Pacers, we get Lavert is two years younger. Sorry,

1156
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: he's a couple of years younger. He's two inches taller.

1157
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: He's signed two extra years. He's on a very palatable contract.

1158
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: This is what the Pacers do. They got TG Warren

1159
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: last year when when the want him on a nice contract,

1160
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna have just a bunch of good players. Warren

1161
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: will be back too. They're gonna have five good starters.

1162
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 2: That's a good, tough team. No one wants to play

1163
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: Indiana in the playoffs. They're gonna beat them probably. They're

1164
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: really good teams are But I thought before this the

1165
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 2: Pacers had a shot at maybe a two or three

1166
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: seed if things broke right. I think that's still true.

1167
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: But you can't bet that they're not going to win

1168
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: the division because the Bucks are in the division. So

1169
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: unless Yiannis gets hurt, that's out. They already were good

1170
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: bet on the over. We gave you that one when

1171
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: we did our over unders early in the year. I

1172
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: don't know what the angle is here. Maybe the angle

1173
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: is the first round matchup. Whoever they get. I like

1174
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: it for them a lot. I just don't know. It

1175
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: pushes the ceiling a little better and it helps them

1176
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: long term. I like where it pushes the team the

1177
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 2: next couple of years. It's a good move. I'm not

1178
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: sure it moves the needle from a betting standpoint.

1179
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: It also saves them some money, I'm sure.

1180
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, grateful for I fig good for me.

1181
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 7: I just I didn't want to give Olidepo to Max

1182
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 7: like I think after his knee injury, he hasn't been

1183
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 7: the same player like I think, And I think I

1184
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 7: don't understand why Houston actually wanted to go after him,

1185
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 7: because they're gonna have to maxim this summer, and to me,

1186
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 7: I would rather have Karris Lavert if I'm the Rockets.

1187
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 7: Based on what I've seen from Oladipo these last two seasons.

1188
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: I think they want to take a shot on him.

1189
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: You know, they want they wanted a young asset, they

1190
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: wanted a star player, which is Ola Depot. I guess

1191
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: the shot is Carutz or eg Um. And then the

1192
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 3: picks are the biggest thing.

1193
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 5: They get back some of the draft stocks that they

1194
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 5: gave up in the in the Westbrook deal, which is like,

1195
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 5: that's an important thing to keep in mind as these

1196
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 5: conversations continue, is that everyone will be like, look at

1197
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 5: how much draft picks they got. Okay, but they gave

1198
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 5: up a majillion in the Westbrook trade, So like they're out.

1199
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: Of the hole, but it's still gonna be I think

1200
00:56:59,160 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 3: a little bit touching.

1201
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 2: Oh. The od thing is there's there are fake picks

1202
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: in here too, because well, one of these picks is

1203
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. First, that's gonna be bottom a five pick. Yeah,

1204
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: we've got Brooklyn. Picks are gonna be not good. These

1205
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: next two picks, one of the swaps is not gonna

1206
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: happen because Brooklyn will still be good. So we know

1207
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: now twenty twenty four, twenty twenty six, that's valuable.

1208
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: Hangibly, hang on, just so you don't get old takes exposed.

1209
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 5: Let's not say the Nett picks are not gonna be

1210
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 5: good because that was the plan last time.

1211
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, that was the plan last time, but that

1212
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: was with like thirty seven year old dudes.

1213
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 5: Okay, thirty seven year old man who plays every night,

1214
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving.

1215
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving doesn't talk to Ponds Fair.

1216
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: And we have a guy coming off of a Killy's chair,

1217
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 7: and we have an older harden who's like, you know,

1218
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 7: shouldered at your loan for Houston, Like these guys could

1219
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 7: fall off any second.

1220
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 5: He shouldered more than that loaded in Houston. So here's

1221
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 5: the thing. I put it in the Kevin Durant MVP.

1222
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 5: But second nine of the season, that one's over. We

1223
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: agree on that like that, Katie is probably gonna be

1224
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 5: off because he just the sheer numbers aren't gonna be there,

1225
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 5: right Okay, so this probably shifts value back to Lebron

1226
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 5: Jannie I don't know what right now.

1227
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: Ad Jokic.

1228
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 5: So some of that value is gonna have to get

1229
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 5: redistributed because I don't think Katie has as much value

1230
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 5: right now. I'm going to look up right now as

1231
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 5: we're on this thing, exactly what the if those numbers

1232
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 5: are still out there. Yeah, Katie is still plus seven hundred,

1233
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 5: so I would expect that number to move.

1234
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: Lucas still favorite.

1235
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: Jason Well less sexy is most improved. Christian. What is

1236
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: the heavy betting favorite on that right now? And he's

1237
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: going to get a lot less easy points now. I think.

1238
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: So if he falls off, then Matt opens up some improvement.

1239
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: I think he'll still get Christian was always going to

1240
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: get numbers.

1241
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 5: I think Christian was always going to be a guy

1242
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 5: that gets numbers, like he'll just wind up finishing. He'll

1243
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 5: just wind up finishing and getting boards and stuff like that.

1244
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 5: MB tot plus is right now at plus one thousand.

1245
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 5: That was who zach Low said today was the MVP

1246
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 5: so far this season. All right, So that's actually going

1247
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 5: to wrap it up for the Action Network podcast and

1248
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 5: this insert special edition after the Rockets trade. Make sure

1249
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 5: to keep up with Action Network on Twitter and in

1250
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 5: our app up breaking analysis of this trade and whatever

1251
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 5: other moves come out of it. There's a lot of

1252
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 5: talk to Cavs maybe doing something else very soon. We'll

1253
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 5: have all that information up to the second betting lines changes,

1254
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 5: everything you need to know in the markets.

1255
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: Make sure to keep a tune to Action Network.

1256
00:59:53,120 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 5: We'll talk to again next time on the Action Network podcast.

1257
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: We're finished talking