1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Trending 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: for January eighth, twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: I'll get it. I'll get it. Eventually you get we'll 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: get twenty twenty five. It could be twenty yeah, whatever, 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: fucking whatever. Man. Yeah, welcome to Trending man. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: What a day, What a day? What a day. Uh. 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm Jack O'Brien. That over there is my co host, 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: mister Miles Gray. 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: Could you do with a little more energy, please, a little 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: more pizzazz, set. 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: A little zip on this one. 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, what a time. I 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: mean like obviously this is all going to just be 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: about the the murder of Renannicle good. 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, as we it's funny yesterdays. 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: As we were putting together to the doc, the headline was 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: like ice involved shooting in Minneapolis. And then by the 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: time I got to look at the news once we 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: stopped recording, it was just the video everything was out 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: and you're immediately just thrown right back into Jesus, like, yeah, 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: the thing that you all we've seen happen on accident 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: in La Remember we saw that one time where the 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: fucking ice guy like shot his own hand, right because 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: you Because we have a bunch of fucking losers with 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: guns out here, pretending to be trembo. 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Just giving guns, given badges and told to do whatever 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: the fun and told that the government in there but 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: in there, so I don't know exactly what they're being told, 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: but it does seem to be just like gun the messaging. 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 3: I see the messaging, which is essentially do look, we'll 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: back we'll We'll back you one hundred percent. The comments 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: that will come out of this administration will absolute lies 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: to shield you. But yeah, another person killed by ice. 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: You've probably seen the video if you haven't, or maybe 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: you need to see it fully to understand the depths 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: we're continuing to plunge down into. But it wasn't even 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: like the video itself. It was like everything around it 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: that was just so fucked up, Like to her wife 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: who was inconsolable. 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Video of her wife on the scene. 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: To the glove box that had stuffed animals in there 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: because they had just dropped off their six year old 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: at school, not to mention a child who has already 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: lost their father in twenty twenty three, now orphaned. I 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: think just no, I think that most people know who've 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: seen it and even just read it, that there Renana 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: Cole Good was in no way trying to run over 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: an ice goom. Like these assholes were not stuck in 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: the snow, contrary to what Christy Noman was saying. They 50 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: pulled up on Goods car without issue and able to 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: drive off after the shooting. 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: So the FED version is that they were stuck. 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: I saw Trump's So Trump's statement was that she willfully 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: and viciously ran over the ice officer, not tried to. 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: Initial and he went to the hospital, right, Yeah. 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: Viciously ran over the ice officer who seems to have 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to believe he is alive but is now 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: recovering in the hospital. 60 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: He attached him where the guy walks off after he 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: pulls up his mask when he realized. 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Don't know what clip he's referring to, but every fucking. 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: Video as fucking dementia. 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: Dude, he cannot fucking acknowledge the reality of any situation. 65 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure, I'm pretty sure we. 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: Probably read the same articles where like reporters were confronting him. 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: They're like, Good is this what you're talking about, because 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: here it seems like she drives around him, trying to 69 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: get away from him, as he's pulling his gun out, 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: and as somebody is another ICE agent with a mask 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: on is yanking at her door violently and saying. 72 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of the car. 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's trying to drive away from them, her wheel 74 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: has turned all the way to the right to try 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: and get away. Yeah, and he shoots her as she 76 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: goes by, as she goes by three times. 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: So I don't have you seen that image where like 78 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: his aid pulls out a laptop to like counter this 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: and be like, okay, well look at this clip. And 80 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: then one of the reporters like, well, well, we told 81 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: him that this angle did not appear to show an 82 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: ICE officer had been run over. Trump said, well, I 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: the way I look at it, and just kind of 84 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: trailed off like he was even waffling when they like 85 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: she said. 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: Oh, she didn't try to run him over. She ran 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: him over. And then she he said again, this is 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: this person isn't. 89 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 3: Even a reliable narrator for when the last time he 90 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: took a shit was right, So to have him try 91 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: and see the new one, you see it, which is 92 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: again too obscure and just complete anyway, So this isn't 93 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: the first time ICE has shot and killed a person, 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: the first time they've shot at people for filming them. 95 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: This apparently like the ninth person has been shot since September. Yeah, 96 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: and this is not going to stop because white supremacy 97 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: is an all consuming ideology and has been a cornerstone 98 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: of American culture from the beginning. The victim being white 99 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: doesn't change that. If anything, it's a stark example of 100 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 3: how white supremacy will consume its own in pursuit of 101 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: a reality that will never come to fruition. Unfortunately, it 102 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: will just leave a trail of bodies. And these goons 103 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: are in our streets because of this fantasy, right, Like, 104 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: these people were there because of this fantasy of a 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: white America and continued exploitation that this country's addicted to. 106 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 3: And good people know that America is at its best 107 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: when we embrace each other and learn and share and 108 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: we're like, yes, bro, we're in this together. So these 109 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: good people come to defend their neighbors, like Renanicle Good 110 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: did just to take a video of the activity of 111 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: ICE goons, and in that moment standing for good, you 112 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: become an enemy combatant in the eyes of white supremacy 113 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: and doesn't matter what your race is, and another life lost. 114 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: I mean, state sanctioned violence is nothing new, and the 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: lesson here is not new. It's just hard to see 116 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: the same tragedy play out over and over again. I 117 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: know black and brown people have definitely been talking about 118 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: this and. 119 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: Like this this is a white woman. Is this going 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: to change it? 121 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: Because we've they've been it didn't matter when we were 122 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: getting killed by police. 123 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: Will this do something? 124 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: And it's I think I don't know, But what I 125 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 3: do know is that the outrage that is being felt 126 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: across the country is very, very acute. Yeah, and unfortunately 127 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 3: this is part of this is part of the plan 128 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: though too is every Like we've been saying from the 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: beginning of these ice raids all that he needs a 130 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: Reichstog fire. 131 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked a lot about it, like designed incompetence 132 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: at the high levels where he has like fools in, 133 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, positions of power and you know by having 134 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: them there, he can get them to do whatever he 135 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: wants and they're going to always be loyal to him. 136 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: But I think there's also the designed incompetence of putting untrained, 137 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: violent people on the street with guns and just being like, gonuts, 138 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: if you see a brown person, kidnap them and if 139 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: anybody gets in your way, you know, you do whatever, 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: you do, whatever you want. And by doing that, he's 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: going to create they're going to create more outrage. Because 142 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: I think you're right that, despite what a few like 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: sort of algorithmically inflated white supremacists on Twitter are saying, 144 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: I think most people look at the video and are like, what. 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: The fuck are you talking about. 146 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a guy in the local news who 147 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: was an eyewitness who was like and like, politically I'm 148 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: pretty right leaning. I mean, the guy I think was 149 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: probably trying didn't want to say I'm a Trump supporter, 150 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: but he's like, I'm pretty right leaning, and you could 151 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: tell he was just shook. 152 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was. 153 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: Also he was not I saw that clip and he 154 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: said he like came on the scene after the fact, 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: so he didn't even he hadn't. That guy was even like, damn, 156 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: sounds bad, but like, yeah, yeah, he didn't give me 157 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: what actually happened. And now we've got the footage from 158 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: multiple angles of this agent in a situation where they 159 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: did not have to in any in any sense, just 160 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: murdering someone in cold blood. It's you know, as they 161 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: drove by. 162 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it serves so multiple purposes. 163 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: You increase the agitation level in the country, You get 164 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: to make an example of people who stand up to ICE, 165 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: get to score another point in the brutalization of people 166 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: in this country. Like, it's serving this administration in every 167 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: possible way. It's it's consumed the headlines from every other 168 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: terrible scandal that we're having to witness from this administration. 169 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, and now they're doing you see the 170 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: propagandists on the right a fucking full pedal to the metal, 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: being like, well, this person was this is this person's 172 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: a domestic terrorist, or like you know, this is why, 173 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: this is why you can't be it, this is why 174 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: you can't be interfering, As if that's a fucking justification 175 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: to be to fall victim to a summary execution. 176 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 177 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: Christine suggested that this is part of a cour She 178 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: was like that this was an attack on ICE agents 179 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: by a left wing terrorist, like using their car as 180 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: a weapon, and it that it's part of a coordinated 181 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: effort where they're like receiving it like she was, like 182 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: they must be like getting some shared training, uh to 183 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: tell them how to do this. This was a person 184 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: who was frightened because some two agents were attacking her, 185 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: trying to yank her out of her car and pulling 186 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: pulling a gun on her as she was trying to 187 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: drive away. And and that's clear to fucking everyone, Like 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: nobody is looking at that and being like they're no 189 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: ES trained operator who knows how to fucking attack somebody 190 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: by using their car as a weapon. 191 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: Like the I mean the people that you you you know, 192 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 3: and again like you're saying the algorithmically inflated takes that 193 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: you've seen, be like justifying it, and the thousands of 194 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: likes from whoever the fuck I mean, like I'm sure 195 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: for the people who probably see it and are trying 196 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: like I'm thinking of like you know, maga, people who 197 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: maybe have like a shred of soul inside they see it, 198 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: and then they certainly have to go figure out like, Okay, 199 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: how do I make this okay my mind? How do 200 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: I make this okay in my mind? Because certainly it 201 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: can't be right everything I stand. 202 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: Give something guys come on, like, is she did she 203 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Antifa at least? 204 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're gonna say, and you know, I'm sure 205 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: they'll come out with deeper smears because it's the same 206 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: thing that happens to every person who falls victim to 207 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 3: state sanctioned violence. 208 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: You're gonna get they're gonna be like. 209 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: Oh, man, she went to Pakistan once or something like, 210 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, who knows what the fuck they're gonna say, 211 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: she did yoga, man, So she's a fucking like it's 212 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: so predictable, and it's just so transparent what the president 213 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: and all of the freaks around him are trying to 214 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: do to this country and what they're trying to do. 215 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 2: I mean, it's make no mistake. 216 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: They went to the fuck that there were blocks from 217 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: where George Floyd was murdered. Yeah, you know, like they're 218 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: going back to the scene. 219 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, we we need to win that one. 220 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: We need to go back and revisit that one like 221 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: Rambo and Rambo two. We got we gotta make this 222 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: happen again so we could fucking win. 223 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Because I mean, you look at everything that's the 224 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: declaration of martial law, potentially a suspension of elections, like 225 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: this all follows a playbook that you know, up until 226 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: this point, everything you hear from Stephen Miller, he's basically 227 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: being like, just look to Nazism to figure out where 228 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: I'm at. And with the playbook I'm I'm operating from. 229 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he Trump himself was saying during the last 230 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: election that this will be you won't have to vote again, 231 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: this will be the last election. I think that this 232 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: is the playbook. Whether it is successful, I think I 233 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: think there's a problem with designed incompetence, which is that 234 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: all the people trying to execute it are fucking incompetent, 235 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: and it looks like shit, and like it's not convincing anybody. 236 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: And I think they're going to have like twelve percent 237 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: of the population that thinks they're actually telling the truth 238 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: on this one. But this is the playbook, and it's 239 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: a matter of like how Americans respond at this point. 240 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do think like this. 241 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: You know, we saw this with this administration going into 242 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: another country and without any justification other than we were 243 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: taking their oil. You know, we like that it's all 244 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: a piece of the same thing, and people aren't stupid, 245 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: like they're going to recognize like this is not like 246 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: there's a reason that's Americans don't want to be the 247 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: bad guy. Like what, I know that America has been 248 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: the bad guy in a while, but most Americans didn't 249 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: realize that that's what all the lying in propaganda has 250 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: been about all these years. I don't think they want 251 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: to openly understand that they're the bad guy, and I 252 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: feel like this administration is making that forcing them to 253 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: like make that choice. 254 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: Oh, you're saying people who haven't had their eyes open at. 255 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: All, Yeah, exactly, Like the vast majority of people aren't 256 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: in this country, aren't like, yeah, America's fucking the the 257 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: villain of history for the past two dents. 258 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: That's definitely a minority take for sure. 259 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 260 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I I just think that this administration is 261 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: just like I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe everybody's 262 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: just cynically like, yeah, we're the bad guys and that's fine. 263 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: But I feel like there's a reason that the government 264 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: has felt like they needed to lie to people for 265 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: so long, and now now they're no longer doing that, 266 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see if people are just 267 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: like willing to go along with that. 268 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: Maybe they will do I mean, that's hope, not they 269 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: hope that. 270 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: I mean again, all of this helps to get people, 271 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: you know, uh to the point where they're so despondent 272 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: that they'll just roll over. Yeah and yeah I think 273 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: they issue too. There's like so many things that that 274 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: set this place apart from other countries. Which is odd 275 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: too because like you see a lot of people from 276 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: like you see it on Reddit all the time, where 277 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: like people in Europe are like, you got to do something, 278 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: You've got to do something, and you're like, well, quite agreed, agreed, 279 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. The examples you have or you're 280 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: gonna get murdered if you even look at a police officer. 281 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: So that's changing the stakes. 282 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: So from so now we're caught in this period of 283 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: trying to understand what tactics will work. Who is it 284 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: who can lead this because it's certainly not the politicians 285 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: and you're stuck in this place. Which is also funny 286 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: too because. 287 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: You think for like American people who are like, oh, 288 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: I mean, what else you going to? Like, you know, 289 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: what what can we do? 290 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, so do you understand like while people 291 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: why people flee other countries? Right like when you're in 292 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: a situation where it's. 293 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: I haven't really thought about it. I think they just 294 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: came here for the opportunity. 295 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: It's all like my head's fucking spinning right now. But 296 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: maybe let's take a break because there's more to talk 297 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: about too. We're right back, and we're back. Yep, yeah, 298 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: I GT. 299 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: I guess the other question, like my my first question 300 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: is like, who the fuck is that person grabbed that, like, 301 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: the person who just murdered somebody in broad daylight in 302 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: front of you know, dozens of witnesses, is like why 303 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: where are they going? Why are they able to just 304 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: like walk away? Why are the other ICE agents around 305 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: them like fist bumping and like seemed to be like 306 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: laughing in the immediate aftermath of it. So, I mean, yeah, 307 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: people immediately called for an investigation of what happened in 308 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, potentially a prosecution of the person who again 309 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: obviously committed cold blooded murder in broad daylight in front 310 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: of a bunch of witnesses and you know, while people 311 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: were filming. And the latest we have is that the 312 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: FBI is not is officially blocking the investigation into the 313 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: death without any explanation. 314 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're Bureau of Criminal apprehension, I think is what 315 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: the Minnesota's sort of like law enforcement investigation body is. 316 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: They thought it was going to be like a cooperative, 317 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: cooperative thing, and then they've just said the Feds have 318 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: said it's there, allowing us to access any anything, no evidence, 319 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: no nothing, So now cash buttel's. 320 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: Fucking band of fucking weirdos as. 321 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: Who knows what they're gonna come out with, but I'm 322 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: sure I doubt that they're gonna come to the conclusion 323 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: that this person actually needs to be held to account. 324 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: It was interesting because Tom Homan the borders are who 325 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: and real life drunken barncat was doing. His first reaction 326 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: was we're gonna have to look at this. Yeah, yeah, 327 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 3: this is You're gonna have to take a second and 328 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: look at this and really figure out what's happened. Let 329 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: the investigators do their jobs, and a shooting like this, 330 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 3: it's not good to jump to conclusions, which was kind 331 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: of wild because every single person for the administration was like, 332 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: they're left wing domestic terrorists. 333 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: They deserve that. They're they're they. 334 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: Were trying to ram the car and someone must have 335 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: got to him because then he kind of twitched his 336 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: tune up right after. 337 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: But it was interesting to see that one was like. 338 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: All right, I looked at it. Sorry, I just needed 339 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: a literally a second and looked at it. 340 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: We're good here. 341 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: No, But he was even like he was leaning on 342 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 3: was like law enforcement experience, Like I've been a cop 343 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty four, and like this is just how 344 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: you have to do things. 345 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: And then. 346 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: You have to go out of your way to murder 347 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: somebody as they drive by you. 348 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you do an investigation and then you'll 349 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: spare them and then you'll be free from any consequence. 350 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: I mean, like, the one thing is that people are 351 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: talking about is that this ICE agent, would it be 352 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: immune from state charges potentially, But. 353 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's no way that there's gonna be 354 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: federal charges. There is a question that people are talking about, 355 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: like there's the law has generally been favorable to federal 356 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: officials who violate state criminal laws. And this dates back 357 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: to a very strange case involving a US marshal who 358 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: shot and killed a lawyer and former chief Justice of 359 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: the State of California who had a beef with Supreme 360 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Court Justice Stephen Field and so the Heartward Yeah, he 361 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: was working as a bodyguard and shot this guy on 362 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: a train who was threatening a member of the Supreme Court. 363 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: But last year the Court in a case Trina Martin 364 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: who her house was mistakenly raided by the FBI in 365 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and like they burned her carpet, broke her doors, 366 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: fractured her railings, and the FBI was like, that's hey, 367 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: that sounds like a yp me to you, to me 368 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: and I it not not our problem. And so that 369 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: actually got advanced all the way to the Supreme Court, 370 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: who was like, yeah, no, like you can't just like 371 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: do that. That seems you can't. If you're clearly in 372 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: the wrong, then they can sue you. And so people, 373 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still very vague, but it does seem 374 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: like they can maybe there's some standing. 375 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: But even then that feels so inadequate somehow, because it's 376 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: such a larger thing. And I think that's why this 377 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: is such a instructive moment. This is such a big 378 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: moment for elected democrats, right, And I'm not I'm not optimistic, no, 379 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: but they should be shutting the government down. 380 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: They like they. 381 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: Have to something, something has to happen that can grind 382 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: this government to a halt on some level to try 383 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 3: and get people to fucking wake up to what exactly 384 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: is happening, because it's it's just it's. 385 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: Getting it's getting worse and worse. 386 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, this is like the kind 387 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: of I've used this example before. This is that I 388 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: remember talking about this in twenty twenty about people turning 389 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: a blind eye to out of control policing and white supremacy. 390 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: Is like, it's like mold on a loaf of bread. 391 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 3: Just because the mold is at the other end of 392 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: the loaf and you're on this end of it doesn't 393 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: mean that it's not coming for you eventually. Yeah, and 394 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: then the process consumes everything around you until it gets 395 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: to you. And so the idea that people that you're 396 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: safe from this or this is that this will somehow 397 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: just kind of even out, I think is a false 398 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 3: sense of comfort. And at a minimum, I think it's 399 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: very important that at a minimum, right, you need to 400 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: really begin to organize the community that you're in. And 401 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: not to say that you are in charge of organizing 402 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: the community that you're in, but you need to really 403 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: get engaged with your neighbors. You really need to, because 404 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: that is the one way. That's like the first thing 405 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: you need to have is if you know everybody around 406 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: you and you know their needs, and they know your needs, 407 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: and they know what you got, what you bring to 408 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: the table, they know what you can they can bring 409 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: to the table. Yeah, that is that that is a 410 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: sense of community that is very potent and it's something 411 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 3: that we've done for millions of years as human beings, 412 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: the idea of being social and caring for each other. 413 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: And I think that's an instinct that Donald Trump absolutely 414 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: wants to like catterize in the American public, so they 415 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: don't do things like videotape ice agents to try and 416 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: hold them to account and do all these other things. 417 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: And it's just a very Yeah, I'm not sure. 418 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: What is going to be done at that federal level 419 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: to change anything. 420 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think anything at a federal level. Yeah, 421 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. That's why it has to 422 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: be very very local and like interpersonal because uh, it's yeah, 423 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: they're they're doing everything and you know, they're taking us 424 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: out of the context of that. Every time you're on 425 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: like social media in the news feed, like they're they're 426 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: taking it out. They're trying to abstract us from the 427 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: people around us, and you know, make it so that, uh, 428 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: we're part of this larger project of what supremacy and 429 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: violence and just make it makes it easier for for 430 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: them to kind of manipulate and control. 431 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, now I think and then predictably, now, 432 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 3: like the line from the Administration of Republicans at Large 433 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 3: is like, you know, the people of. 434 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: Minnesota are being seditious. 435 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: Now the mayor of minister of Minneapolis is seditious because 436 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: he said told Ice to get the fuck out of Minneapolis. Yeah, 437 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: and there and again the same it's they're the same 438 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 3: rhetoric is also like of trying to explain what happened 439 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: is well, this is happening because we have out of 440 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: control political rhetoric and the left is vilifying and demonizing 441 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 3: law enforcement. So you're getting these out of control vigilantes 442 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: who are vigilantes? 443 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: What vigital is? 444 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: Ice, bro, what do you think that you are? You 445 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: are creating these people and giving them uniforms. So try to, 446 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: you know, really guard your sense of humanity right now, 447 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: because it's it's like a full core press, Like we're 448 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: clearly in this new there's a clearly this next phase 449 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: of escalation that's happening because I also think a lot 450 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: of this is tied to the looming midterm terms. 451 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, where the. 452 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: Republicans privately are completely despondent and nihilistic about their chances 453 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: of holding up. 454 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: They can't let that, they can't let those happen. Essentially 455 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: seems to be where they're at in terms of the 456 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: political reality of the situation. Yeah, and so I feel 457 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: like everything that happens going forward should be at least 458 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: partially understood through that lens that they are going to 459 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: lose their ability to do this overall project if they 460 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: if they let those elections happen. 461 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: And so, yeah, here we go. 462 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: And you know, unfortunately, like the nature of our politics 463 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: has allowed for just these like self centered, like neoliberals 464 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 3: to enter Congress at a time of like relative quote 465 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: unquote stability. Okay, like I use that very like terms 466 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: and conditions apply to that term, s toe. But now 467 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: that we are in a moment that requires people of 468 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: tremendous character in those positions, Like you're you're seeing what happened. 469 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: It's like, well, all the people that you put onto 470 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: the starting starting five are actually not built for this fight. 471 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 3: At all. And that's another thing that I think, just 472 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: I think the one thing I'm trying to tell myself is. 473 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: Like everything, knowing your community and. 474 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: Knowing what is immediately around you and being able to 475 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: shore up that kind of support is step one. And 476 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: that's not scary at all. It does have to be scary, 477 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: but trust that that is a source of safety. 478 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: It's fun in life, affirming to get to know people. Yeah, yeah, 479 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing this in my new neighborhood. Now nice, you know. 480 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: And I'm and I'm heartened by the fact that, like 481 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: when I talk to people, they're. 482 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: Also like, oh, you should meet so and so up 483 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: the street. Oh, I'll introduce you, oh this other thing. 484 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 3: And I'm not doing it on so like what are 485 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 3: we gonna do about white supremacy type shit. 486 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 2: I'm just like, hey, how you doing, what do you do? Oh? 487 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: What's up? Cool? I guess I just moved over here. Oh, really, 488 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: nice to meet you. Oh what do you do? Okay, 489 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: that's your kid? Great, blah blah blah blah blah. Oh 490 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: what's your number? Okay? Cool? 491 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: Oh you work with the Just that just that alone 492 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: creates the kind of bonds that help you realize that 493 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: you are not facing any of this by yourself, because 494 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 3: right now it's so easy to look at your cell 495 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: phone and look at just the fucking doom scroll that 496 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: everyone and I'm sure is doing and go holy fuck 497 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: and feel so. 498 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: People around you are like these assholes that you're seeing 499 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: on you know, who might be in fucking Russia for 500 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, like as we found when they made people 501 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: use locations public earlier, so you can of Russia, like 502 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: I think, I think it might still seem far fit 503 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: people that like Trump is going to suspend the elections 504 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: and suspend democracy, but like the everything that has happened 505 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: so far in this second term has really like that 506 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: that writer M Gessen who lived through the rise of 507 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: Putin and is like, you know, you will be like, man, 508 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 1: this is as bad as it can get, and then 509 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: a year later you'll be like, man, when we said 510 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: it was as bad as it could get, it was 511 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: so much better than it is now. I feel like 512 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: people need to understand, like this is it. It's going 513 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: in that direction absolutely. I mean, everything has just been 514 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: a steady march towards America being a fascist dictatorship. 515 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: And I think the one thing I think about too 516 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: especially as it become a parent or not become now 517 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: that I am a parent, is that my child will 518 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: not have anything close to the childhood I had in 519 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: this country, Like and not that it was idealistic orything, 520 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: but like just knowing how different that is because I wasn't. 521 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: I was like right before the mass shooting generation, you know, 522 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: so like I never knew lockdown drills, but now that 523 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: stuff happens for him and now, And we didn't have 524 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: ice goons around. I was just police officers batting up 525 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: people of color. But like in this, in this way, 526 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: with this kind of yeah, I mean, so much is 527 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: on the line, and I think, I'm I'm I'm I'm 528 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: like talking to my friends, I'm like the where like 529 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: we need real leaders, yea, And not to say that, 530 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: like we can't figure these things out on our own, 531 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: but I'm hoping that some movement, like a tangible movement 532 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: can come out of this that is truly people led, 533 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: where people understand what the stakes are for just like 534 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: normal working Americans and configure to like find a way 535 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: to move towards something that feels a little more just. 536 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: But I think their plan is worse than we are imagining. 537 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Then a lot of people are imagining. I think their 538 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: ability to execute it might be I don't know, like 539 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: tenuous based on the fact that you know, what we've 540 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: seen from Trump and what we've seen from the people 541 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: that he's put into power. 542 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: But we'll see. 543 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: But I think that like all the more reason that 544 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: we need to find ways, we need to find leadership, 545 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: we need to find ways to resist. All right, Uh, 546 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: that's going to do it for us this morning. We 547 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: are back tomorrow with the Who last episode of the show. 548 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, Be kind to yourselves. 549 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: Get introduce yourself to your neighbors if you haven't already. Yeah, 550 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: it's a little just a little step, just just say 551 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: hiet to get to know how, who are your kids? 552 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: What are they up to? 553 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe don't lead with who are your kids? 554 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 2: What? No? No, all right, any I just moved. All right, 555 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: never mind, never minded. 556 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: Never mind, never mind, never mind, spread my way, get 557 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: your vaccines way, still can't get your flu shots, don't 558 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: do nothing about white supremacy. 559 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: And we will talk to you all tomorrow. 560 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: By The Daily zeit Geist is executive produced by Catherine Law, 561 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: co produced by Bye Wayne. 562 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: Co produced by Victor Wright. 563 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: Co written by j M McNabb and edited and engineered 564 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: by Brian Jefferies.