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Speaker 1: My next guest is a Grammy and Billboard Award winning artists.

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Speaker 1: She is also a Southern girl, a business woman who

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Speaker 1: wears many minute hats. She's the most stream gospel artist

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Speaker 1: She promotes her own tours, which I love to hear.

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Speaker 1: We got to talk about that always being intentional and

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Speaker 1: showing her platform and sharing her platform with others. She

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Speaker 1: has over one million Instagram followers and over one hundred

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Speaker 1: million streams of her performances. Please welk up the money

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Speaker 1: making conversation, Tasha called Leonard, Hey, that's a lot of lot.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a lot. Why First of all,

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Speaker 1: it is honored for me because of the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna share information to my listeners and on and

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Speaker 1: the people who view me on my Facebook page about

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Speaker 1: why it's important to be a businesswoman as well as

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Speaker 1: a talent. Because a lot of people, I think the

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Speaker 1: really uh that old you know statement that you know,

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Speaker 1: in here for the business and the art. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it has social media changed that or it was just

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Speaker 1: You know what, I I believe both. I believe it

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Speaker 1: was always there. I've always been. My brother used to

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Speaker 1: have his own going joke when I was I was

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Speaker 1: person I've ever seen with no job. But I always

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Speaker 1: found a way, even when I was younger, you know,

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Speaker 1: um with social media. Uh, back when I released my

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Speaker 1: I I started my own website, I put my own

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Speaker 1: I put that album out on my face. At the time,

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Speaker 1: I am. I've always had like this entreprepreneurs thing on me,

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Speaker 1: but also social media helped me to push and to

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Speaker 1: market my brand. It's really interesting because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people used to worry a blessing us faith or going

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Speaker 1: out on faith, but it's also effort and also believe

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Speaker 1: it in yourself and this is your vision because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people can tell you you're wasting your time.

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Speaker 1: And I know I've heard that a lot of my career.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure if people have told you you looked

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Speaker 1: And so and so? This isn't it amazing that you

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Speaker 1: you you put your music, you're not known artists and

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Speaker 1: What was that? What was running through your mind when

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Speaker 1: have to go back to something you said, because that

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Speaker 1: for the Bible also said that faith without work is dead.

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Speaker 1: You can't have faith all day, but if you don't

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Speaker 1: gave me all of the ammunition I needed to say, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Because I'm the kind of person you know, when I

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Speaker 1: To me, that says get up and do something. So

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Speaker 1: because you have to get out the way personality. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I do that, don't worry about it. That's how fairst

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Speaker 1: that you satisfy, and you reach your satisfied, satisfying point

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Speaker 1: Somebody that's coming in the room, because that allows that

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Speaker 1: you had a passion to be different. Absolutely, who pushed you? What? Well?

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Speaker 1: aren't always telling you you're great, who aren't always saying

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Speaker 1: and we can come back. UM, keep that energy because

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Speaker 1: This was Sean McDonald's was Sean McDonald, the host of

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. UM, continue this interview with the Grammy

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Speaker 1: Now we want to talk about the business side of

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