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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, back to the Hammer Territory podcast. This episode

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Speaker 1: one eight two. I'm your host s Brad Roland, coming

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Speaker 1: to you on a Wednesday evening, and I'm joined as

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Speaker 1: I almost always am, by my friends Scott Coleman. Scott,

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Speaker 1: I believe the headline of his podcast is going to

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Speaker 1: say it all, and basically it is what is wrong

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Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Braves?

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Speaker 2: That is the ten million dollar question? Brad. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if anyone knows what is wrong with this baseball

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Speaker 2: team right now? Five and thirteen says it all, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: I mean that there's no other explanation or there's no

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Speaker 2: deep analysis. I mean the team just has flat out

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Speaker 2: sucked three weeks into the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're five and thirteen. I mean five and thirteen

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Speaker 1: is not where I think even the biggest pessimist acknowledging,

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Speaker 1: the tough schedule in the season, all those things, no one,

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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty good at big pessimists is what I

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Speaker 1: want to be. I don't think anybody saw five and

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Speaker 1: thirteen as a realistic outcome after eighteen games. If you

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Speaker 1: would have told me the Braves were eight and ten,

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Speaker 1: I would have been like, all right, that sounds believable

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Speaker 1: to me, given that they played a tough schedule. All

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Speaker 1: that stuff five and thirteen is not was not believable.

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Speaker 1: But here we are. That is the reality. Eleven percent

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Speaker 1: of the season is now over, so not nothing. Eleven

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Speaker 1: percent of season is over the Braves, as we just

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Speaker 1: calculated before we started recording, even just to get to

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Speaker 1: where they were last year. So the Braves won a

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Speaker 1: nine games the season to go, and all of us

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Speaker 1: were frustrated beyond belief even at that. Remember like they

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Speaker 1: had to scratch and claw to get to get to

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Speaker 1: eighty nine wins to stick into the playoffs. Just to

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Speaker 1: get to that point again, they have to win at

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Speaker 1: a ninety four and a half win pace the rest

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Speaker 1: of the way, and that isn't gary you anything like

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Speaker 1: A and I. Wood is not a guarantee of a

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Speaker 1: single thing, even getting in the playoffs. So they have

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Speaker 1: to play ninety five plus win baseball to be even

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Speaker 1: pretend to be guarantee anything about playoffs, and there has

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Speaker 1: been no sign of that to date. And I have

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Speaker 1: been the one in our mentions filled with this today

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Speaker 1: kind of making fun of me for not panicking enough

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Speaker 1: to this point. That's not who I am in general,

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Speaker 1: but even I as the one who was not panicked

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Speaker 1: of the four of us, probably so far you don't

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Speaker 1: want to panic, but man, it's it's getting worse and

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Speaker 1: worse and harder to not panic to some degree. Here

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Speaker 1: in mid April, every single day on the calendar, it

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Speaker 1: just gets a little bit worse and worse. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you can say with a straight face that there is

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Speaker 1: a lot of baseball to go. It is still early.

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Speaker 1: That's worth saying. The Braves have had some really good

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Speaker 1: teams at the end of the year that did not

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Speaker 1: start out very well. They have not had a team

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Speaker 1: that started out this poorly in a long time, at

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Speaker 1: least among their competitive squads. But there was the famous

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Speaker 1: team that was below five hundred until July when they

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Speaker 1: won the World Series a couple of years ago. They

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Speaker 2: So yes, we can say objectively there is still time.

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Speaker 2: But this team looks awful, and the same problems on

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Speaker 2: day one are the same problems on day twenty one

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Speaker 2: of this season. The players are frustrated. We had a

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Speaker 2: couple of expletives from Matt Olsen and Spencer Stryder today

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Speaker 2: in postgame, so it's nice to show they care. Maybe

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Speaker 2: Brian Snitker could get up like one time in his

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Speaker 2: life and maybe argue with an umpire who is completely

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Speaker 2: blowing the game, or you know whatever. Little victories here.

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Speaker 2: It's just I don't know, Brad, I'm out of words

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Speaker 2: to say how frustrated I am with this team without

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Speaker 2: post edit. But man, it's just in some ways. Wednesday's

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Speaker 2: game was the cherry on top, a lot of excitement,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Strider's back, let's go, let's rally this thing's let's

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Speaker 2: get back on the winning track. And what do they do?

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Speaker 2: But they have a historically bad game with strikeouts at

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Speaker 2: other quick note, our colleague Stephen pointed this out. The

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Speaker 2: you want to set aside that really brutal road trip

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Speaker 2: sure they should have won a game or two out West,

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Speaker 2: All of that, But since starting ohen seven, the Braves

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Speaker 2: So even if you want to just expunge the OH

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Speaker 2: that West Coast trip, and that just really underlies all

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Speaker 2: the issues this team has right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you reference to some one to actually make

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Speaker 1: sure we set it at some point. Special Strider, we

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Speaker 1: love number one love and we'll talk about him a

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Speaker 1: lot later in the podcast. He came back today. That's

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Speaker 1: a good that's a good thing. One of the Spolko

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: He's also a guy who's known him to be colorful,

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Speaker 1: and he'll speak, he'll speak his mind, and he's he's

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Speaker 1: a very candid guy and I love him for that.

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Speaker 1: Matt Olsen is while I love him shared all the

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Speaker 1: matter of high schools and all the things Matt Olson

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Speaker 1: Like he's kind of a boring guy in a good way,

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Speaker 1: but in a in a boring way, right, And he

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Speaker 1: gave a quote that will pass along from actually courtesy

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Speaker 1: addressing Toscano guests of this podcast for the AJC, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna read it to you from this is from Matt Olsen,

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Speaker 1: who gets animated very very rarely. Like you said, quote,

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Speaker 1: We're going to be able to flush this as best

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Speaker 1: we can, but like I said, it can't happen. We

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Speaker 1: gotta play better. There's no secret to that. Sure, we

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Speaker 1: got a lot of games left, but we can't do

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Speaker 1: this bleep forever. We gotta find a way to start

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Speaker 1: playing better baseball all the way around. End quote. Now,

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Speaker 1: nothing is the butt that is reblator. We all understand that.

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Speaker 1: Like he's not saying he's not breaking ground, nor is

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Speaker 1: for being milk toast, all those words you want to

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But it's a good piece of context. And I want

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Speaker 1: to overweight one quote. But when Matt Olsen's throwing a

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Speaker 1: they're feeling it man like, and they know like five

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Speaker 1: and thirteen is five and thirteen. It is five and thirteen,

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Speaker 1: Like there's no faking it. We get context. I try

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Speaker 1: to give context the nuance. I know you do too.

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Speaker 1: I know Steven shand do as well. We don't want

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Speaker 1: to give you information. We're gonna do that on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: But they're five and thirteen, like there's no way around it.

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Speaker 2: It is caught on nationally to the point where on

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Speaker 2: baseball talk shows on Foul Territory Monday through Friday at

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Speaker 2: one o'clock Eastern, they have national writers talking about what

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Speaker 2: is wrong with the Atlanta Braves. What is wrong with

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Speaker 2: this team that won eighty nine games last season despite

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Speaker 2: all the injuries and so many things that went wrong,

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Speaker 2: still won eighty nine games and made the playoffs, which

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Speaker 2: is a really good outcome for ninety percent of the league.

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Speaker 2: And this team that was coming off back to back

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Speaker 2: winning the division six years.

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Speaker 1: In a row.

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Speaker 2: And it's just baffling. And let me ask you this, Brad,

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Speaker 2: and I did not prep you on this. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted about this a little earlier. Three months from

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Speaker 2: now is the absolute heat of trade deadline season in July.

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Speaker 2: If you had to put your life savings, Oh no,

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Speaker 2: are the Atlanta Braves buyers or the Atlanta Braves sellers

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Speaker 1: Ooh? I I think if you pulled Braves fans, they

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Speaker 1: would say sellers. I'm gonna say buyers. But I know

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Speaker 1: gonna say this. I still think it's buyers right now.

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Speaker 1: If look, if they're still not even not even like

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Speaker 1: it's just early enough, and there's still the projections and

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Speaker 1: all the talent they have on the roster, and Strider's

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Speaker 1: still slightly lean to buyers with my life savings. But

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Speaker 1: you can hear my confidence levels not very high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you.

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Speaker 1: Have an answer? What's your answer? I have to flip

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Speaker 1: around on you get the other one. Go ahead, you

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Speaker 1: want you I can see it. I can see in

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Speaker 2: It's probably a little reckless to say right now, because look,

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Speaker 2: we fully get it. I know there's there's fans on

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Speaker 2: all sides of the spectrum, right fans who would fire

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Speaker 2: everyone tomorrow if they could, and fans who are like, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's April seventeenth, chill. If we're still having this conversation

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Speaker 2: in six weeks, there are There are more of them

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Speaker 2: on the fires, on the fire and angry side now

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Speaker 2: than I think that there has been any point in

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Speaker 2: the last or since the World Series run.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I mean last time the fans were that not

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Speaker 1: to be real, you, but the lost time the fans

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Speaker 1: and totally maybe maybe some playoff exits obviously induced some anger,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, like regular season, why this is the

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Speaker 1: total sense to me.

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Speaker 2: And last year had challenging times. We're not going to

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Speaker 2: overlook everything. But again, when Akunya and Riley and all

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Speaker 2: these and all those guys are hurt, you know, I

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Speaker 2: think they get a pass.

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Speaker 1: Last year they also started hot, and that gave them cushion. Right,

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Speaker 1: They weren't playing well for a long time, but they

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Speaker 1: Okay, Scott, we teased it. Let's talk about the offense

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Speaker 1: Okay, the offense has been disaster. I mean that's not

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Speaker 1: Now I want to joe down a little bit. Not

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Speaker 1: But Graverson is the same thing we said before about

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Speaker 1: the overall numbers looking okay, a lot of the guys

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Speaker 1: having great seasons, but the numbers look okay for Riley,

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Speaker 1: Marcelo Zone is hurt right now, talk about that later on.

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Speaker 1: He's been fine this year. Sean Murphy looking like Sean Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Love to see that so far. He just came back

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Speaker 1: looking like Sean Murphy. But I mean, Scott, it's impossible

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Speaker 1: to overstate how bad the outfield has been. Like I

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Speaker 1: mean to Brian Dyla Cruz, who, by the way, it's

432
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Speaker 1: a minor league contract signing. He shouldn't be good. But

433
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: he's been so bad, yeah, like unplayable. Yeah, but he

434
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Speaker 1: has to play because Jerkson Profar decided to cheat. I

435
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: mean that, let's call this what it is, Jerckson profile.

436
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 1: It would be helpful if he was playing.

437
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: Yes, Jerckson Profar cheating and then having his insane season

438
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: and getting a big bag of money and then missing

439
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: half of the year because he got caught cheating has

440
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: completely screwed over the braves in the outfield.

441
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wouldn't fix everything, but it's a big There's

442
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: a lot more played appearances for the likes of Stuart

443
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: Fairchild and at Brandanalla Cruz than we're supposed to happen.

444
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 2: And it was supposed to be Profar Harris, who will

445
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: get to in a second, and Ronald Accooney Jr. In

446
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, and that was arguably going to

447
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: be the best outfield in baseball, one.

448
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: Of them for sure.

449
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: And now for another seventy games we have to watch

450
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Speaker 2: some form of this disaster in the corners. I mean,

451
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: I wonder if they just put Aconia out there in

452
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Speaker 2: a wheelchair and just have his bat out there, because

453
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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he can't like fully cut loose in

454
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: the outfield yet on that knee, but why not? What

455
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: do you have to lot? Well, you have to be

456
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 2: careful with Ronald, but you know what I'm saying. Yes,

457
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Speaker 2: And then let's talk about Michael Harris.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is starting to come to a

459
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Speaker 1: head now because look, I'll raise my hand. I thought

460
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Speaker 1: Michael Harris is gonna have a break season. I said

461
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: as much on the podcast. I'm looking to be incredibly

462
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: wrong about that so far. Again, it's eighteen games. He

463
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: looks he looks terrible, he really does. He looks terrible

464
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: at the plate. All of the hopes that you would

465
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Speaker 1: have had that he would mature his approach, it hasn't happened.

466
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Speaker 1: In fact, it's gotten worse through eighteen games. I don't

467
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: know what you do with that. I'm not pouring I'm

468
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Speaker 1: not pouring dirt on Michael Harris's career right now. But boy,

469
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: he looks really bad at the plate.

470
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Speaker 2: I called him Jeff Frank Core called him Jeff earlier.

471
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Speaker 1: I saw that our guy, our guy at Capitol Avenue

472
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: had the picture of Jeff Frank cor teed up today.

473
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Speaker 1: For Michael Harris, it's it's making the rounds a little bit.

474
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Speaker 1: It's scaring me, by the way, hurts my soul. Another

475
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: park you high school got to make fun I can't

476
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: make fun of people with Jeff Frank Correr in good conscience.

477
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: But the parallels are starting to be a little bit striking,

478
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Speaker 1: which is unfortunate.

479
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: Our co host Stephen called Michael Harris Hobby Bayez earlier

480
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: pain and look, I don't think we're getting to that

481
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Speaker 2: point just yet.

482
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Speaker 1: We're not.

483
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Speaker 2: Michael. Michael Harris has to figure something out. This guy

484
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: has one of the worst swing rates of stuff off

485
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: the plate of quite literally anyone in Major League Baseball.

486
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: He had a plate appearance on Wednesday afternoon. I don't

487
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: know if he saw a single pitch in the zone

488
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: and he struck out on eight pitches.

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Speaker 1: You haven't watch the play appearance. I'd recommend watching it,

490
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: but also if you look at the game, day game

491
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Speaker 1: whatever they call it. The baseball tracking h it's a

492
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Speaker 1: full count, so he did see three balls, but he

493
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: swings at ball four. It's a foot and a half

494
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: out of the strike zone to strike out with two

495
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Speaker 1: guys on base. It was probably the single biggest play

496
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Speaker 1: appearances of the game for the Braves today. Yeah, in

497
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: retrospect it was. It's a big high levers moment and

498
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: it's full played appearance. But it's not like his chase

499
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: rates way up and we won't it's not a full

500
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Speaker 1: Michael Harris deep dive on the podcast today. But he

501
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: is part of the problem and he you you would

502
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Speaker 1: hope that when you have this disaster with profar and

503
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: you're right, you know that's on him. It happened. He

504
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: should be People are mad at him, and they should

505
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: be mad at him. That's happening. Ronnie's not getting back yet.

506
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: I get it. The hope would be your guy, you

507
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 1: banking on your former rookie of the year, potential future

508
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: star center fielder, would be able to carry him a

509
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: little bit right now, And it's been the exact opposite

510
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: of that. He has been. By the way, I still

511
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: believe Michael Harris, like I love Michael Harris, I really

512
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: do like. I think the combination of traits he has,

513
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: the defense, center field, the speed, all those things. It's

514
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Speaker 1: really really exciting. And I'm pro local kid, all that stuff.

515
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: But when your approaches what his approach has been this year,

516
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Speaker 1: with a new hitting coach and with the whole offseason,

517
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: to know that was his weakness anyway, it was already

518
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: his weakness. Now it's gotten worse. That starts to be

519
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: a little bit concerning.

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Speaker 2: He is seemingly getting worse by the year, which he

521
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: has been. By the numbers, yea Yoki year, phenomenal, one

522
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: thirty five WRC plus, look like a future MVP. His

523
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: second year, which was his first full season, a one

524
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: to fifteen WRC plus, which is still good for a

525
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: Gold Glove caliber centerfielder, but a big drop one thirty

526
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: five to one to fifteen year three last year ninety

527
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: nine league average, And you want better than that for

528
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: a guy you signed for nine years or whatever that

529
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: contract is. And now Michael has been one of the

530
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: worst regulars in all of Major League Baseball. Deep down

531
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Speaker 2: in my heart of hearts, I think Michael Harris turns

532
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: it around, but he has to figure something out at

533
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Speaker 2: the plate. Pitchers are never going to throw him anything

534
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: in the zone.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't. Why why would you? I mean yeah, I

536
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: mean we're honestly, we always see this is a pro

537
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: Braves podcast, but put yourself in their shoes for a second.

538
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: Through the opponent. There is no reason to ever throw

539
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 1: micah Res strike right now until he proves he could

540
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: take a bunch of walks in a row, like I

541
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: would never throw a strike ever, Like why would you?

542
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: So?

543
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: Again, the think of Michael Harris that makes him, that

544
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: makes him so attractive as an extension candidate, as a

545
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: young player, is that all he has to do is

546
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: be the average hitter, Like would you want to better?

547
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: Would you want it to be more than that? Of

548
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: course you would. But last year Michael Harris was still

549
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: a three or four win player as league you could

550
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: he could be a really really good valuable player who's

551
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: worth that contract without being a great hitter. That's why

552
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: Michael hurt is so awesome. But you can't be this.

553
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: You can't be this hitter. So I don't think anyone again,

554
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: just to say it's out loud, no one believes is

555
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: going to be this. I don't think, but the trends

556
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: are not where you want him to be, so we'll

557
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: move on. But the office has been as bad as

558
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: people are saying that it's been. Usually I find fans

559
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: are hyperbolic at times. Hold my beer on this, Scott.

560
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: The fans are piper blocks sometimes with their frustration all

561
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: things are not going well. But honestly, it would be

562
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: hard to overstate how bad the office has been and

563
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: how bad the outfold's been. And I wanted to just

564
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: take a second to like just say these numbers out

565
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: loud and just be like it, look, it actually has

566
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: been as bad as you are envisioning it at random

567
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: braves fan X in Alabama or Tennessee or Georgia. It

568
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: actually has been that bad, man, it has been. That's crazy,

569
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: but it is.

570
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Speaker 2: My mentions every day are a disaster. And I also

571
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: find myself nodding along with like ninety five percent of

572
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: the crazy stuff that's coming in because it's the same

573
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: frustrations that I have, and it's the same frustrations you have,

574
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: and it's probably some of the same frustrations the players

575
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: on the team have. And I thought it was a

576
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: good sign that Matt Olson, one of the leaders on

577
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: this team. A very well paid veteran came out and said, look,

578
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: we have to be better. This is not acceptable. Spencer

579
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: Strider said the same thing, and sure, it's just words.

580
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: Why don't you win a couple of baseball games this

581
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: weekend and kind of put your money where your mouth is? Yep,

582
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: But yes, I mean it is hard to overstate how

583
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: bad this outfield is. And when it's three of the

584
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: nine hitters in your lineup and you already have a

585
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: shortstop position that even though Nick Allen has been totally

586
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: fine in that role, admittedly, it's it's a weak unit.

587
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's almost half your team. That's that's a

588
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: virtual zero right now offensively, And even if you had

589
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: four just incredible stars at the top, it's still not

590
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: good enough. It's you're just not gonna win games that way. Yep.

591
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: It is both too obvious and not not advanced enough

592
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: of the analysis to just say, look at the lineup

593
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: and look at the names in the lineup. But also

594
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: it actually has been kind of easy to look at

595
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: the lambs of the lineup and be like, hey, you

596
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: one is very good offensively that that that collection of

597
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: nine players in that order, like from from five to

598
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: nine almost every day, or six to nine at least

599
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: has been pretty dire. And leave it there for now. Okay, Scott,

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Speaker 1: We'll get into the actual games very quickly, I promise,

601
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: for everybody's sake, a little bit striver talk, which will

602
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: be again positive all of the coming up. In just

603
00:29:49,440 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: one moment, a band.

604
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: Bingers did not be eyes. I'm just gonna have.

605
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: Its root the Brons and they don't win in the

606
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: shame brace games not just.

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Speaker 4: Gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Stream now, Okay, Scott, let's go back briefly to Tuesday's game,

609
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Speaker 1: because we haven't covered down on the podcast yet, a

610
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: six or three loss. We discussed the offense. I will

611
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: say as a shout out quickly, Austin Riley was scalding

612
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: hot until today. He had a bad day on Wednesday,

613
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: but he had a stretch of eight games with a

614
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy seven WRC plus. That's pretty good.

615
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: Austin went from people worrying about him a typical Austin fashion,

616
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Speaker 1: like he has these stretches where he's just like incredible

617
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: and you just did it for a week. Cool. Love

618
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: to see that offensively, whatever it was, the rare actual

619
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: bad game from your guy in mine special Swallenbach. So

620
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Spencer was okay through four innings. Everyone though to I

621
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: would say, to your credit and everybody else's credit was watching,

622
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: was like, hey, does look great today. He's not really

623
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: doing what he's usually doing. And then eventually that turned

624
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: from he's getting by with it till he wasn't getting

625
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: bow with anymore.

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00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifth inning spiraled badly. I think it was a

627
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: stretch of five batters in a row who reached and

628
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: two home runs cleared the wall, and a one to

629
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: one game became a six to one game very quickly.

630
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Speaker 2: And even when Spencer was getting through it in the

631
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: early innings, just the command was not there and he

632
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 2: was leaving stuff in the middle of his own he

633
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: was getting hit hard. It was honestly kind of jarring

634
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: to watch Schwamenbach not have his usual elite eighty grade

635
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: command because he just looked off, and he looked off

636
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: from the very first batter of the game. He almost

637
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: hit Vlad Junior twice with a pitch in the first inning,

638
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: which he never does, and from there on it just,

639
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, credit to Spencer. It's a testament to how

640
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: good he is when he has like his D minus

641
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: stuff on the mound that he can still navigate four

642
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: innings and only give up one run, but that one

643
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: inning at the very end just Spy rolled And yeah,

644
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: you know, six runs a six run opposition scoring is

645
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: is like a death sentence for this lineup right now.

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00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the game itself is. We'll talk

647
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Speaker 1: about whatever, but I mostly just a blip. I think

648
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Speaker 1: Spencer's command is usually awesome. If it happens again, you

649
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: start getting a little bit more concerned. But like it's

650
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: one game. I'm not at all worried about it. I

651
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: just it was to your you said it perfectly, it was.

652
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: It was just weird because he's not ever liked that.

653
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Speaker 1: And by the way, even including that start, he now

654
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Speaker 1: has a grand total of I believe it's five walks

655
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Speaker 1: in four outings with that start and included. So, uh,

656
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: I still still in the two. So he's still if

657
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: you're if you're holding that saw young ticket, you still

658
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: have a chance. Don't worry. Everything's fine. Briefly, I'll ask

659
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: you this. They had Baldwin and Murphy both in the

660
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: line up the last two days, which we called for.

661
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: I know, Sean and Steven did as well. After that

662
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: didn't happen on Monday. It didn't change anything. But with

663
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: Azuna out, I thought that was the right decision. Did

664
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Speaker 1: you haven't thought about that?

665
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: Just no brainer basically, Yeah, it was the obvious decision.

666
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: And it really is a bummer that Baldwin and Murphy

667
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: and Ozuna can't all three play. Yeah, maybe the Braves

668
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: are so desperate they give Drake a left fielder's mitt

669
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: and say, let's see how it goes.

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00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

672
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Speaker 1: I don't think so either. But I mean, just to

673
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: say it's not a loud as well ball. What hasn't

674
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: been like tearing the cover off the ball. I mean,

675
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: the underlying stuff looks better than the actual numbers, as

676
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: we've said an oder of times. But I think it

677
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: would be a little bit harder for the Braves right

678
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: now in a good way if he was mashing. But

679
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: he is it, so they're they're not going to be

680
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: as incentive eyes to get super weird with it. I

681
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Speaker 1: don't think.

682
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did get his first home run today.

683
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Speaker 1: He did.

684
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: It was the opposite Yeah, opposite field shot on a

685
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: ball that was almost off the late. It just shows

686
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I really hope the Braves. I think at

687
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: the end of the day, the Braves find a way

688
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: to ultimately make it work with Murphy and Baldwin. I

689
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: don't know if it necessarily can be this season unless

690
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: there's an injury, and we'll we'll hope that Marcelo Zuna

691
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: is back this weekend. But yes, it was the obvious

692
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: decision to play both of those guys, especially with the

693
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: current state of the lineup.

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00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: It didn't work, But yes, I agree wholeheartedly. And you

695
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: already mentioned that the only positive offensive thing that happened

696
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: on Wednesday it was that ball went home run. That

697
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: was literally the list we talked about at the beginning.

698
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: We'll breeze through, but the Braves made some history that

699
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to make on Wednesday afternoon. Nineteen strikeouts

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Speaker 1: in a nine inning game is a tie for the

701
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Speaker 1: club record in a quotation mark setting for shutouts at

702
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Speaker 1: nine innings, so almost the most I've ever had as

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Speaker 1: a team. And the if you don't know this, the

704
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: history of the Braves is very, very long, one hundred

705
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Speaker 1: plus years.

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00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: Great.

707
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: This is a different environment, so I think their top

708
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: three strikehong games are all in the last like five years,

709
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: because that's what happens now in Major League Baseball. But

710
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: still you don't watch you around nineteen times. Also a

711
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: new Blue Jays record for strikeouts in their history on

712
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: the other side, which tells you a lot as well.

713
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: And of course the Braves were oh of nine with

714
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: runners score positions. That's all of everything else. So a

715
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: afternoon to forget except for one major thing. But anything

716
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: else you want to add for East Rider because Rider

717
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: is the only ray of light from today, I would.

718
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: Say only thing to add. The home plate umpire was

719
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: truly awful. Yeah, it was abs in the Challenge system.

720
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: Cannot get here fast enough. Something Please, I will personally

721
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: build and install the cameras myself and then drive them

722
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: to all thirty stadiums if it means that we get

723
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: the Challenge system. It was just, I mean, it was

724
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: shocking how bad the umpire was. Tod I think it

725
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: was Bill Miller, who's been around forever. It's always the

726
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: umpire's name, so you know, it's like, oh God, here

727
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: we go. But terrible play, terrible game, terrible offense. I

728
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 2: guess the one happy thing was Spencer Strider.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Scott with that said, this segment to be brought

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732
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: more about that in a second, but Spencer is gonna

733
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: be the spotlight on today's show because the PRESI are

734
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: losing and if you want to find a spotlight, it's

735
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: good to have Spencer Strider back. Now, he wasn't perfect

736
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: well acknowledgem not the top, but it was his first

737
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: outing in twelve plus months, right slayung caliber guy looked

738
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: like he was mostly himself. I don't think people, I

739
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: think realistically you shouldn't expected him to be the one

740
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent cole version of Spens Rider in his first outing.

741
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: That was probably fair to say. But what did you

742
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: make of what you saw on Wednesday afternoon?

743
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: For Spencer? In some ways it was very much kind

744
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: of what I was expecting from Strider. Is the Spencer

745
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: Strider that we got. He was not necessarily the Christmas

746
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: or the sharpest that we have ever seen him. He

747
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: labored a bit in the middle innings, but he was

748
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 2: also still Spencer. Strider opened up the game with back

749
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: to back strikeouts, which was awesome. Had the Slider working,

750
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: had the fastball working at times. I don't think he

751
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 2: necessarily had a great feel for his pitches other than

752
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: maybe the slider today. But again you said it. I

753
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: mean it's about twelve and a half months was the

754
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: last time that Strider made a start, so I think

755
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: there's things to build off here. The velocity was pretty

756
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: consistent and didn't dip, which is always something you have

757
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. And I'm sure just for

758
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: that mental blockade for Spencer to get back out there

759
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: on a big league mound, for him to get through

760
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: that and have a pretty good start, even if he

761
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: was probably left in for a batter or too many,

762
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: I think you have to be excited to have Spencer back,

763
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 2: and hopefully this is a sign of things to come

764
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 2: because the Braves desperately need him to be good.

765
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he touched I think ninety eight was the max

766
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: he sat in the He averaged like ninety five and

767
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: a half miles an hour in the fast ball. That's

768
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: a little bit now from last time he's pitching, but

769
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: that's that's to be expected, I think, especially early on

770
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: free you know, when the weather heats up, when he's

771
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: getting stretched out, all those things, so nothing concerning there

772
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: at all. The secondary stuff looked totally fine. Like I

773
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: thought he looked good. He didn't look one hundred percent.

774
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: That's okay as far as like healthwise, look fine, and

775
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: I think he felt fine.

776
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

777
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: He was not in the mood postgame to talk about himself,

778
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: which I think is fair. I understand Spencer, by all accounts,

779
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: is a maniac in a complimentary way, competitive guy. He

780
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: wants to win, and he was probably mad a loss today.

781
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: It was also not his fault they lost today, no

782
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: at all, Like if all you I'm just this is

783
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: pretty obvious. But he gave up two runs and five

784
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: plus innings, Like that's doing your job as the starting pitcher,

785
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: especially your first outing in more than a year. He

786
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: was out the problem and if the Bridge just hit

787
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: it all, they would have won. And they didn't hit

788
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: it all, so here we are.

789
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: It's just it's even more frustrating that you see a

790
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: performance like this where if Spencer Strider is starting and

791
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: you give up three runs, you should win that game.

792
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: Maybe not one hundred percent of the time, but you

793
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: should win that game.

794
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Should win more than you lose for sure, And that's

795
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: not happen enough. This year to be sure. So yeah, Spencer,

796
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: it's just great to have him back. We've said that

797
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: leading up to this all the way through. You know,

798
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: one picture in particular is not going to save your

799
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: entire season because he's only throwing everyone every five days.

800
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: But in theory, I do have some excitement level still

801
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: at five and thirteen for a top of the rotation

802
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: that has Sale, Strider and Swallow back back to back

803
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: to back. That is enough to get me excited.

804
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: Now.

805
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: I know Sale hasn't Mensale this year. We all understand

806
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: that Strider just coming back. Just play at a baths

807
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: start yesterday. I still have personally a lot of faith

808
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: in those three guys. After that gets pretty dicey. We'll

809
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: talk about that later on briefly, but uh, I think

810
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: there's a if you want to find some excitement in

811
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: your life, if you want to do your best Sewan

812
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: Coleman impression, just find the rainbows here in mid April.

813
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: That top three is enough to give it to me.

814
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: Some agree, yep, that top three. Let's hope it's as

815
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Speaker 2: good as we hope it's going to be. Grant Holmes

816
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: was fantastic on Monday. It was a really good sign

817
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: for a guy who's this is a pro Hols podcast.

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Speaker 1: We love it.

819
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 2: We like Grant one of maybe maybe the best start

820
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Speaker 2: of his shortened big league career. And then we'll just,

821
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Speaker 2: I don't know, close our eyes later later go out

822
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: to dinner when Bryce Ellther comes out, I don't know,

823
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: we'll see. But hey, if the lineup can wake up,

824
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: and that is so far from a guarantee, but if

825
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: this lineup can wake up, and you mentioned sequencing earlier,

826
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Speaker 2: if they can string together some hits and be better

827
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Speaker 2: at runners in scoring position, this rotation is going to

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Speaker 2: give them a chance pretty much every night. Can they

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Speaker 2: get the hits? And then can the bullpen keep things

830
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Speaker 2: calm because it's been a Jekyll and Hide bullpen too.

831
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Speaker 2: But yes, there are broader days on the horizon. And

832
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Speaker 2: let's hope that when Spencer wakes up to in the

833
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: morning he feels fine and all that. But by all accounts,

834
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 2: he looks great, he feels good, and the Braves really

835
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Speaker 2: just do need him to be his usual self.

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Speaker 1: let us dig in briefly to some news and then

848
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Speaker 1: a quick preview of the weekend against Minnesota. And this

849
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: will be breezy, we promise. Marcelo Zoon did not play

850
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: the entire series against Toronto. They played a man down

851
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: for three games. People were quick to make the Austin

852
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Rodley comparison when he did not play for like two

853
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: weeks last year and they just played a man down.

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00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not that bad. It seems like they're hopeful

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00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: they'll be back this weekend. And of course they were

856
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: in Toronto. There's some travel logistics there. He flew home

857
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. That's why he didn't go back to Toronto.

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00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: It seems like we won't probably know until Friday because

859
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: they're off on Thursday. But it seems like it's gonna

860
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: be okay. They need them obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if Marcel's able to get into a

862
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: game this weekend. It obviously helps that he is a

863
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: DH only so he does not have to worry about

864
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: chasing down baseballs in the outfield or running at home closely.

865
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: He was pretty gimpy in Tampa Bay. That's neeries everybody,

866
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: not everybody. A lot of people caught it in real time.

867
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, did Marcel just hurt himself and then he

868
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: exched at the game. But it seems like if you

869
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: believe what Brian Stinker and others around the team have said,

870
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: they think Marcell is going to be okay.

871
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that elves to add there, just maybe beat him

872
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: back and hopefully he's back as soon as Friday. Ronald

873
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: Coutia Junior got the sign off that everyone was talking

874
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: about for a couple of weeks from the doctor. That's

875
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: good to see on track can basically start to potentially

876
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: try to test himself and cut. We got questions about

877
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: this all the time, but what does this mean, Like

878
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: right now. He can run a straight line, and so

879
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: you can do something besides running a straight line. It

880
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: takes time to ramp up. Also, you have to if

881
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: you're a hitter in baseball, you got to like see

882
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: live pitching at some point. There's a process that has

883
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: to happen here. They're thinking maybe a couple more weeks

884
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: at the absolute earliest. I think Bowman said two or

885
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: three weeks at some point. That was like a good sign,

886
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: because that could be like early May. We've been hearing

887
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: mid May for a while. We're all guessing. But it's

888
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: obviously a good sign. He's been cleared. That's all I got.

889
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, great sign. I still think there's something to my

890
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: wheelchair idea and right field right now. I don't even

891
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: know if, honestly.

892
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: I bettioned he can hit of the wheelchaircause runn is

893
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: that good? I don't think a field in a wheelchair,

894
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: But yeah.

895
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: Figure it out. He's a talented guy, he's young, athletic.

896
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: He is athletic, that's true.

897
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the Braves did a good job of protecting

898
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: Ronald from himself and letting that need get as healthy

899
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: as it's going to be. Now, you just have to

900
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: see how he progresses, and I'm sure there's going to

901
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: be a day where he has some soreness or something

902
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: going on, but you just want to get him back

903
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: out there as soon as you can. And we know

904
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: that Ronald's been able to hit, he's taken batting practice

905
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: and all of that. Obviously, live pitching is different than

906
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: batting practice. But I would guess I think that timeline

907
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: early mid May sounds right, and it will not be

908
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 2: a day too soon.

909
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will definitely do a podcast that day. No

910
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: matter when that day happens, it'll be a podcast. Got

911
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: kimberl made his braves Ish debut, not in Atlanta Braves debut,

912
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: but pitched in double A Columbus on Tuesday. Looked fine

913
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: by all accounts through an inning, struck out two. Every

914
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: day the bullpen has any kind of issue, someone called

915
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: for kimberle I mentions, I get it, but he was,

916
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: as we joked about last time, he was just clearly

917
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: not doing anything until the Braves signed him. So he's

918
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: still in the rent bi process, but hey, once it's

919
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: pitching in games like he could be up pretty soon.

920
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: I would guess he's a reliever. I mean, you don't

921
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: have to stretch out. He'll he'll be up fairly soon.

922
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, I think Kimberl makes the team.

923
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: I think they call him up. We did talk about

924
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: that at one point, maybe a week or two ago.

925
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: But it's two million dollars, it's not a ton. And

926
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: the fact that the Braves kind of recouped six million

927
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: dollars from the Profar suspension, it makes sense to bring

928
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: Craig up. They kind of have a carousel right now

929
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: with a pitcher or two in that bullpen, so it'd

930
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 2: be good to have Craig up. I would sure think

931
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: maybe another game or two in Double A. Maybe they

932
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: shift him up to Gwinnett whenever the Stripers are home,

933
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: and then he'll get his name called.

934
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Last thing on the news, this is very fast.

935
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: Chadwick Trump old friends signed a minor league deal with

936
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: the Orioles. So people ask us about bringing him back.

937
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: He's he's no longer available to be brought back, and

938
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: then Buck Farmer got released. I was very sad. People

939
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: took your call for mercy podcasts literally on Twitter, which

940
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: made us all laugh when you called me out for

941
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: mercy podcast Some of it's tongue and cheap. But I

942
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: do know Buck's family a little bit. I thought he

943
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: was decent in spring would have been useful, but that

944
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: didn't happen. So maybe had an opt out we didn't

945
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: know about as well. I think it's obviously possible, but

946
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: the era did not even really start. But rip to

947
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: the Buck Farmer era.

948
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: I like the idea of Buck Farmer. I poured one

949
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: out for you, Brad. I know it costs nothing. It

950
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 2: costs nothing.

951
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: Everybody. It was monor league contract. It's fine. I'm sad,

952
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: but hey. Then in the last year, Jesse Franklin, my

953
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: favorite prospect because he was a Michian guy, got released.

954
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: Like it's all going badly for me. It just it

955
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: is what it is to protect my Olsen at all costs.

956
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: All right, Before we get out of here, a quick

957
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: look at the series against the Twins over the weekend.

958
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: The Braves are off on Thursday. Recording this on Wednesday night,

959
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: but they're off Thursday. The Twins have seemingly figured it

960
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: out a little bit. They had a really really bad

961
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: start of the year. They've won three in the last four,

962
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: so there's still only seven and twelve with three of

963
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: the last four wins but they are winning recently, and hey,

964
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: better than the Braves. Right now, here's something for you.

965
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: I tee. I did it kind of a straight face

966
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: as a semi joke on Twitter, but I said, don't

967
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: worry everybody. Bryce Elder is pitching on Friday, and that

968
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: is happening. Bryce Older is on the mound on Friday.

969
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: So we covered this earlier this week. The Braves kind

970
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: of surprisingly ish, chose to option a just Mischelverer and

971
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: not Bryce Older, and we thought maybe they would skip

972
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Bryce Elder and have it be a long relieve or something.

973
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: But as of right now, the Braves are list It's

974
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: not just like an educated guest, like they are actively

975
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: listing him as a starter for Friday at home. I

976
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: guesst Minnesota. Uh yeah, skid buster Bryce Elder, streak and.

977
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 2: Bryce Elder against Chris Paddock, who is oh and two

978
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: with an e RA in the nines.

979
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: Hey worse, see I rad the Bryce Older.

980
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: So there you go a small advantage saying there's a

981
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: chance on Apple TV Brad, which I know everybody loves

982
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: the Apple TV games. I will say, if you're still listening,

983
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: and bless you for still listening to our ranting but

984
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: usually the good folks at Apple will email me a

985
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: code that I can put on Twitter for a free subscription,

986
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: free trial. So if you want that, I'll try to

987
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: tweet it out if if I get one. But yes,

988
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: Friday Night's game exclusively on Apple TV plus.

989
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not going to be well received, especially after

990
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: some losses, Brads, Fans not feeling great about themselves right now.

991
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: I can't image there's gonna be a mad rush to Apple.

992
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: But hey, maybe people will do that. I'll be watching.

993
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: I have Apple TV Plus. They're not paying me to

994
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: say that, but I have it. Part of the reason

995
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: my habit is for baseball. And are you with severn Sky?

996
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: Brad never seen an episode?

997
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: Everybody tweet Brad and say you need to watch Severance

998
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: right now.

999
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: I do a lot of sports. I yeah, just a

1000
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: lost words. It's worth I get it. I've heard it's

1001
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: been good.

1002
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: It's fine.

1003
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: No judgment, man, Antai, just I haven't seen it. After

1004
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: Elder Pitch is on Friday to save the season, Saturday

1005
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: is gonna Chris Saale against Simeon Woods richardson sail after

1006
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: his last start. We'll all be interest to see how

1007
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: he looks because he did not pitch well on his

1008
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: last outing and was pissed about it, and rightfully so,

1009
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: and big one on that one on Saturday. And then

1010
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Greg Holmes pitches Sunday and his follow up to his

1011
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: aforementioned strong outing in his last start. So the Twins

1012
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: are beatable. The games are in Atlanta. I don't even

1013
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: want to think about what happens on this podcast Sunday night.

1014
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: If the Braves go one to two or one three

1015
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: this weekend, I don't want to think about it. So

1016
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll just win the series. But win when please

1017
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: when please? Yeah, please please win? Please winnable again, winnable.

1018
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: This is not like you're playing the Doughters on the road.

1019
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: The Twins are not, on paper terrible. They have some talent,

1020
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: but a series that the Braves should hopefully at least

1021
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: win two out of three games. And by the way,

1022
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: this haven't done a lot of that. They still have

1023
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: won two games in a road this year.

1024
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: And it was looking so good because they had Schwellenbach

1025
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: on Tuesday night after a win Grant Holmes was awesome.

1026
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: They dropped eight runs in a few innings. It was

1027
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: looking good, and then you know what, happened in Swallenbach

1028
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: in almost a calendar year, has the worst start of

1029
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: his career. It just goes that way. It's been kind

1030
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: of a microcosm of the entire season. But I feel

1031
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: like we say this after every show, what's one more

1032
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: for the road? Maybe, just maybe this series against the

1033
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: Twins is what gets the Braves going again. They have

1034
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: the Twins and I think they have the Cardinals at

1035
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: home if I remember Rice Saint Louis has issues, so

1036
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: the schedule is lightening up a bit. Then they go

1037
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: out west.

1038
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: They play the Diamondbacks, who are really I was gonna say,

1039
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: then they're coming to see you, my friend. They're covered

1040
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: your way in about a week. And listen at the

1041
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: Rege doing this. I don't care what you're doing. I

1042
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: know it's not down the street from your house. You're

1043
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: going to Chase Field and doing something. I don't know

1044
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, but you're doing something over there. I'm sending,

1045
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: We're sending you as a correspondent to Chase Field.

1046
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 2: We go live live solo pod from the Chase Field.

1047
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: After the Braves lose nine to nothing for the.

1048
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: Fourth You and iPhone, You and iPhone straight just straight

1049
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: into camera, just talking. I don't know what's gonna happen.

1050
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do?

1051
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: There are always a million Braves fans out west at

1052
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: Chase Field, so maybe I'll just like gather them and

1053
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: we can just get like a like a screaming session

1054
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: live on the podcast. It'd be it'd be great content.

1055
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: But I am gonna make the trip to Chase. Dear God.

1056
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: Let's hope they're playing better baseball this time in a week.

1057
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: But again, winnable series against the Twins, winnable series against

1058
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. The Diamondbacks are good, but then they go

1059
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: to Denver and play the god awful Colorado Rock.

1060
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna say you remember last year when they

1061
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: went's Colorado and lost? Okay, moving on, Scott, it's fun.

1062
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: It's fun to talk to you on Wednesday night. It

1063
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: was probably good for everyone that we didn't record this

1064
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: at like four o'clock Eastern time today. I was working,

1065
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: you were working. We have day jobs and things, but

1066
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: a little cool downtime still. I think appropriately negative is

1067
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: probably the wrong word. Dumerish at times on this podcast,

1068
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: but hey, we'll pull out of it here. We are.

1069
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: Please if you are new to the podcast number one,

1070
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: thank you for listening all this way, but please go

1071
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: ahead and subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or platforms

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Speaker 1: even Spotify, Apple, Overcast, YouTube, etc. Scott working folks follow

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Speaker 1: along with you, and you're increasingly positive Braves tweets over

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Speaker 1: the last few days.

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Speaker 2: I got to just delete Twitter, man. It just we

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Speaker 2: all do. It's fine at Scott Coleman fifty five if

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Speaker 2: you want to follow there. We appreciate all the support

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Speaker 2: for the show, even as this team has really, really

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Speaker 2: really struggled the first couple of weeks. We are here win, lose,

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Speaker 2: rain or show A lot of rain these days, a

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Speaker 2: lot of lowse But maybe this Brad, maybe we will

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Speaker 2: look back at this very moment in time deep on

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday night. What is today April sixteenth? People are

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Speaker 2: listening on April seventeenth. April seventeenth, Where were you when

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves turned their season around? After listening to

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Speaker 2: the Hammer Territory podcast? Sure mind, sure, sign me up.

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Speaker 2: It is our job, I guess, to talk about the

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Speaker 2: Braves on this podcast. We do take it seriously. We do,

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Speaker 2: like like Scott just said, we show up rin or

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Speaker 2: shine all the time. After a bad loss, we'll get

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Speaker 2: people that are adding us saying, don't worry about the podcast,

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Speaker 2: take the day off and don't know why. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you think about our well being. I do thank you

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Speaker 2: for that, but we usually don't do that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be here. It won't always be great, it

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Speaker 1: will always be long. There might be some short shows

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Speaker 1: if this season's still going this way, later on in

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Speaker 1: the pocket, later on this season, but in the meantime

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Speaker 1: we'll have to clip for you and we'll have more

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Speaker 1: to come. I think we'll probably have a show Friday night.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to guarantee that, but it's probably the

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Speaker 1: play in the middle, and then, of course you and

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Speaker 1: I are the plans always for us to be back

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, So please stay tuned for all that. One

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Speaker 1: more time, please subscribe to the podcast, follow the show, subscribe, rate, review, comment, etc.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it and we'll see everybody.

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Speaker 4: Thanks time,