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Speaker 2: It is Sunday Night in April twenty fifth View of

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Speaker 2: Our Lord twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: A lot of other options. You've chosen to be here, though,

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Speaker 1: and we sincerely appreciate it. We're jam packed.

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Speaker 2: I told you we'd be jam packed, not that we

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Speaker 2: ever aren't that we are, I guess doubly jam packed

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Speaker 2: one of those eighteen packs.

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Speaker 1: Instead of a twelve pack tonight.

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Speaker 2: So we've got Spring games of plenty yesterday, and we

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Speaker 2: got a lot of reaction from those North Carolina, South

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Speaker 2: Carolina today, actually South Carolina with a very very special

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Speaker 2: addendum to the Carolina game South Carolina game. I'll talk

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Speaker 2: about that. Texas, Tennessee. Who else do we have? I

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Speaker 1: A and M. We're gonna touch on so much tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be kind of like last Sunday's show,

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Speaker 2: where we try and pack about five hours worth of

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Speaker 2: show into well maybe well under an hour, but easily

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Speaker 2: under an hour. So thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you like the video. It really helps us.

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Speaker 2: I've been looking at some analytics over the weekend. You

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Speaker 2: guys have done a great job, So I just asked

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Speaker 2: you to continue what you've already been doing. I know

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Speaker 2: that there have been rumors of college football playoff expansion

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Speaker 2: since we last spoke, and many of you have DMed

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Speaker 2: me on Twitter, Instagram at late Kick Josh by the way,

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Speaker 2: and you have asked me. You have actually just told me,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're going to talk about that Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: Tonight? And I'll tell you why. That is cotton.

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Speaker 2: Candy and we've got a lot of steak on the

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Speaker 2: show now. Cotton Candy's great. Cotton candy can hit the

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Speaker 2: spot for about fifteen minutes, but it's not pertinent, not

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be more evergreen in nature.

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Speaker 1: We can push that down the road.

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Speaker 2: We got some stuff that is actually pressing that we

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Speaker 1: So I'll get to all that.

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Speaker 2: If and when, let's just say, if, I don't want

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Speaker 1: Also, the rule change for overtime.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you have been been out of shape

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Speaker 2: about that. To be honest with you, I'm not even

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Speaker 2: ready to broach that subject yet because it'll only make

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Speaker 2: me angry. There are certain things that need to be

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Speaker 2: much has been touched with a duster, but yet we've

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Speaker 2: adjusted overtime. It's great, guys, wonderful. So again, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to even go down that road tonight. That's something

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Speaker 2: we can talk about in the summer. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to say the word you thought I was gonna say, summer,

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Speaker 2: so we can discuss all that, but not tonight. At

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Speaker 2: Late Kick Josh Instagram over three thousand, so we have

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Speaker 2: another thing to schedule, obviously, and you've, guys kind of

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Speaker 2: snowballed that account, so we appreciate it. Continue to grow

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Speaker 2: that thing and you will be very happy with what

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Speaker 2: plans at Late Kick Josh. Thank you so much. I

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Speaker 2: want to give you a warning before we get into

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Speaker 2: spring ball, well spring game reaction, cause it's going to

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Speaker 2: is never a time, and I'm talking specifically to you,

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Speaker 2: if you have a new head coach, there is never

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Speaker 2: a time where a new head coach comes in and

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Speaker 2: you look at the first spring game. Let's say several

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Speaker 2: with the last regime. Well you know the energy is

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Speaker 2: not as good. Well it's not as positive.

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Speaker 1: Hear that.

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Speaker 2: Now, what we know, what history tells us, is that

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Speaker 1: Some of them will one of two maybe grand slams.

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Speaker 2: I'm pulling for all of them, because I'm well, I'm

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Speaker 2: pulling for as many good teams to exist as possible.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to state that as we now

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Speaker 1: The volunteers had their spring game yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the best case scenario, to be

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have the slightest clue who's going

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Speaker 2: I know maybe who they want to start, But you

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Speaker 2: certainly a different energy around the program. It was a

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Speaker 2: really good brand day for Tennessee. A ton of defensive

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Speaker 2: But I was asking, we were asking on the Thursday

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Speaker 2: My note sideways, nine pass plays in this game of

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Speaker 2: old Jeremy Pruitt Jim Cheney Express in Knoxville. Things did

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Speaker 2: He had not exactly done that throughout springball, talking to

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Speaker 2: yesterday started with the threes. Now, everyone structures their spring

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Speaker 1: But yesterday I thought he had the best day.

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Speaker 2: So this is one of those perception and reality deals

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Speaker 2: because he was not he being Harrison Bailey, not exactly

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Speaker 2: So what do we have here? Well, I think what

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Speaker 2: allegedly your classmate. But we have not gotten any official

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Speaker 1: Of course he is.

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Speaker 2: Could I see a scenario where Brian Mauer plays his

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Speaker 2: I could. I could also see Joe Milton playing his

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Speaker 1: That is a wide open quarterback competition.

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Speaker 2: Now, the next big question is going to be as

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Speaker 2: start to narrow that thing. Now, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: narrow it down and name a starter going into fall camp,

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Speaker 2: but you can't have a wide open four or five

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Speaker 2: one specific position group that he singled out in his

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Speaker 2: help on the defensive line in the transfer portal. Now,

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Speaker 2: Elijah Simmons was out yesterday, Aubrey Solomon Emerson was out,

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of guys out yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So maybe the layman's eye looks at that game and says, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: They had a good start.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee had a good start with the two front approach,

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Speaker 1: Well, then it stands to reason. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: So I just heard him say this.

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Speaker 2: Just bookmark that, because he didn't have to say that,

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Speaker 2: Even with the loss of Kellen Mott, and now I

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Speaker 2: want you to think about this, that's a multi year starter.

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Speaker 2: There is reason to believe they've got their best version

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Speaker 2: of Texas A and M football coming in this fall,

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Speaker 2: as he's had since he's been there.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about spring game yesterday. Did it validate that?

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Speaker 2: Because it didn't need to be a pretty spring game

444
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Speaker 2: to lead you to the conclusion, and it could be

445
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Speaker 2: a pretty special season.

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Speaker 1: A and M's in a great spot right now.

447
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Speaker 2: I'm glad as a matter of fact that we saw

448
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Speaker 2: what we saw yesterday because this is another of those

449
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Speaker 2: classic examples of what a lack of access and information

450
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Speaker 2: can do to you. And I told you A and

451
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Speaker 2: M has been notoriously tight with the information them and

452
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Speaker 2: Michigan hard to get information out of those two places

453
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Speaker 2: this spring. So you've heard what you've heard, and what

454
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Speaker 2: you've heard is Haines King probably the definitive favorite to

455
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Speaker 2: win the quarterback job, right, And that's all you've heard.

456
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Speaker 2: And so what I've told you many times is when

457
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Speaker 2: there is not a lot of information coming out, but

458
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Speaker 2: there's still a hunger and a thirst four updates, then

459
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Speaker 2: one thing can be said by one person and then

460
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Speaker 2: it can be echoed by ten thousand people. And if

461
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Speaker 2: that one person got not even false information, but just

462
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Speaker 2: maybe exaggerated information, and then ten thousand other people say it.

463
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Speaker 2: You may think these ten thousand people heard it from

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Speaker 2: their own unique sources, when they really they were just

465
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Speaker 2: parroting what this one person over here said, because there

466
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Speaker 2: is no new, fresh information to be had. Well, I'm

467
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Speaker 2: not saying that's happened necessarily here. All I'm saying is,

468
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Speaker 2: I think when some people watched this spring game yesterday,

469
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Speaker 2: this quarterback race looked a little bit closer than some

470
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Speaker 2: believed it was.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Zach Calzada had some good moments yesterday. Haines King had

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Speaker 2: some good moments yesterday. That's to be expected in a

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Speaker 2: spring game. I thought Kalzada looked like a guy they

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Speaker 2: could win with. I think Haines King is also a

476
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Speaker 2: guy they can win with. My feel on this, just

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Speaker 2: my personal feel having watch Jimbo Fisher over.

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Speaker 1: The years, is King is his favorite.

479
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Speaker 2: King is the guy who is his favorite in his

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Speaker 2: mind to be a starting quarterback. And I think it

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Speaker 2: would take a very very strong effort throughout the summer

482
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Speaker 2: and then fall camp portions of practice for Calzada to

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Speaker 2: overtake him. But pretend you don't think that, Pretend I

484
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Speaker 2: don't think that, and pretend you didn't hear an ounce

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Speaker 2: worth of reporting out of college station until yesterday's spring game.

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Speaker 2: If you just watched that and nothing else, how big

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Speaker 2: would you think the gap is between those two.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd believe the gap is very big

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not saying this is as wide open maybe

491
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Speaker 2: as the situation at Tennessee. But I am saying I

492
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Speaker 2: think they got a good situation here because when you

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Speaker 2: listen to Jimbo Fisher after the spring game, and the

494
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Speaker 2: questions kept getting tossed to him, what do you think

495
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Speaker 2: coming out of spring now, what's the update with quarterback?

496
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Speaker 2: And finally, I think it was Laurence Sisler with ESPN

497
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Speaker 2: SEC Network who asked him after the game, and he said,

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Speaker 2: you know, y'all want to keep talking about quarterback. I'm

499
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Speaker 2: not worried about quarterback. You keep talking about quarterback. I'm

500
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Speaker 2: worried about how we're going.

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Speaker 1: To protect him. Keep him up right now.

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Speaker 2: Again, like I was talking about with Sark, we got

503
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Speaker 2: several years worth of Jimbo Fisher on the record speaking

504
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Speaker 2: publicly about his team. When Jimbo Fisher says stuff like that,

505
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Speaker 2: it's not really coach speak. And I thought It was

506
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Speaker 2: one of the most important soundbites we heard from any

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Speaker 2: coach throughout the spring, because the preview magazine culture is

508
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Speaker 2: going to lead you to believe when you lose a

509
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Speaker 2: multi year starting quarterback in this case Kellen mom and

510
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Speaker 2: you're trying to replace him with whoever it's going to be,

511
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Speaker 2: they're not gonna have a ton of starting experience. Then

512
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Speaker 2: that's a big weakness or maybe, at at the very

513
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Speaker 2: least a huge question mark.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jimbo Fisher doesn't seem to think so.

515
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Speaker 2: What I believe is he thinks he's got a couple

516
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Speaker 2: of guys he can win with and it's not really

517
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Speaker 2: the biggest area of concern that his staff, his offensive

518
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Speaker 2: staff has for the offense right now. I think it's

519
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Speaker 2: offensive line, and I think that's to be expected. And

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you another SoundBite that pertains to things well

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Speaker 2: beyond just Texas A and M that he gave in

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Speaker 2: that same postgame interview yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They asked him, are you glad you had spring?

524
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Speaker 2: Which is a no brainer question obviously, but then they

525
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Speaker 2: asked him to dive into it a little bit and

526
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Speaker 2: he said, you know, last year, we had a pretty

527
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Speaker 2: veteran laden team this year. I have no clue how

528
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Speaker 2: we would ever field a team, how we would ever

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Speaker 2: field a competent product if we didn't have spring.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's good for Texas A and M that they

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Speaker 1: have it. I just wanted to bookmark that.

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Speaker 2: Statement, and let's keep that in mind when we looked

533
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Speaker 2: at some of these programs last year that had it

534
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Speaker 2: go off the rails. A and M comes to my mind,

535
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Speaker 2: LSU comes to mind. For whatever reason you believe it happened,

536
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Speaker 2: I just want you to remember listening to a veteran

537
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Speaker 2: head coach tell you openly, hey, we got a ton

538
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Speaker 2: of talent down here, but if we didn't have a spring,

539
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Speaker 2: we'd probably be terrible this fall.

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Speaker 1: So I just.

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Speaker 2: Wonder, you know, how much how much did we see

542
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Speaker 2: go off the rails for certain programs in twenty twenty

543
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Speaker 2: that really we should view through a different lens than

544
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Speaker 2: we are, because that's my whole take on Penn State,

545
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Speaker 2: and so you know, jimbo Fisher kind of validated that,

546
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Speaker 2: and that doesn't have a whole lot to do with

547
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Speaker 2: A and M. But we get back on A and

548
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Speaker 2: M right now. I think this is going to be

549
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Speaker 2: the best defense he's had there and they've been incrementally

550
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Speaker 2: improving defensively every year since he's been there. And now

551
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Speaker 2: if you look at them all three levels. When they

552
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Speaker 2: talk about defensive line.

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Speaker 1: They feel great. They got the right guys to return.

554
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Speaker 2: They didn't even have Clemens or le Ale play yesterday

555
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Speaker 2: and they were still harassing quarterbacks all afternoon. Now is

556
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Speaker 2: that great or is that suspect? Offensive line play was

557
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: probably a little bit of both. But when you listen

558
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Speaker 2: to them talk about the guys they have up front,

559
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Speaker 2: they love it. They feel like they are plus to

560
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Speaker 2: elite there. When you talk about linebackers with them, they

561
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Speaker 2: feel like they're plus there. When you talk about the secondary,

562
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Speaker 2: there is long and athletics and as fast.

563
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Speaker 1: Really all you can take all three characteristics.

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Speaker 2: As they've been at any point during his tenure, him

565
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Speaker 2: being Jimbo Fisher, and they feel like they're plus there.

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Speaker 2: And what I'm telling you is there is no level.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes when you look at a team, you get, oh,

568
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Speaker 2: that defensive line could be good, man, that secondary could

569
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Speaker 2: be good. Those linebackers though, woof, there isn't that.

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Speaker 1: With A and M.

571
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Speaker 2: It's a really low risk, high reward proposition to buy

572
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Speaker 2: into this defense there's no weak level, barring injuries or

573
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Speaker 2: mass transfers, which I don't expect to happen. Texas A

574
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Speaker 2: and M I think is going to have the best

575
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Speaker 2: defense that they've had under Fisher, which begs the question

576
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Speaker 2: if everyone's asking for an encore of contending for a

577
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Speaker 2: playoff spot like they did last year, and then the

578
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Speaker 2: other crowd over here is saying, nah, Jimbo Fisher's overrated

579
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Speaker 2: as a coach. I see you saying in the chat

580
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Speaker 2: right now. I don't know what in the world that means.

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Speaker 2: I'll I'll address that some other time. But if you're

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Speaker 2: asking if they can do it, well, it's not going

583
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: to fall on defense, because I think the defense is

584
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Speaker 2: going to be plenty good enough. It's going to fall

585
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Speaker 2: on offensive line. It's going to fall on developing wide

586
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Speaker 2: receivers and I want to say passing game, not just

587
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Speaker 2: wide receivers, and maturation at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Haines King.

589
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Speaker 2: I think it was yesterday leading a drive under thirty

590
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Speaker 2: seconds to go into the half through a pick six,

591
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Speaker 2: you know that kind of stuff. It's good to get

592
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Speaker 2: that out of the way in spring and not have

593
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Speaker 2: it happen during the season.

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Speaker 1: But at receiver. They had nine drops yesterday.

595
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Speaker 2: They were thrown into a lot of tight windows now,

596
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Speaker 2: so it was really good to see defensively.

597
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Speaker 1: But they're a situation as well. Texas. A and M's

598
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Speaker 1: a situation where Demas Demas.

599
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Speaker 2: Didn't play, Demand Demas it didn't play yesterday, and he's

600
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Speaker 2: been a guy you're still waiting to explode, former five

601
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Speaker 2: star guy, you're waiting for him to explode.

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Speaker 1: Wider Meyer didn't play yesterday.

603
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: Baylor Cup obviously didn't play yesterday, and I add if

604
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Speaker 2: I had those three elements at the same time to

605
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 2: their offense this fall, it's a totally different offense, and

606
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Speaker 2: so obviously the product yesterday pales in comparison. If everyone's healthy,

607
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Speaker 2: if everything worked out like you shoot on paper to

608
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Speaker 2: what it should look like this fall, A and M

609
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Speaker 2: is going to be a really good team. I saw

610
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Speaker 2: nothing yesterday in what some would categorize as an ugly

611
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Speaker 2: spring game.

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Speaker 1: I saw nothing.

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Speaker 2: To deter me from that feeling. You want to talk

614
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Speaker 2: about a team that's going to be good this year.

615
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: Oklahoma had their spring game yesterday. Remember my working premise,

616
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Speaker 2: as we talk about this with Oklahoma, my working premise

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Speaker 2: with OU is this will be the best team Lincoln

618
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Speaker 2: Riley's had, not just offensive defense, best team overall. That

619
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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's had Saturday made me feel that that theory

620
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Speaker 2: is really on solid ground. The quarterback situation, well, let

621
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Speaker 2: me rephrase it, the quarterback competition. There isn't one of those.

622
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Speaker 2: There is a quarterback situation here. A lot of you

623
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Speaker 2: did not get to see this game. It wasn't as

624
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Speaker 2: widely broadcast as like the Alabama spring game last week.

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Speaker 2: I would encourage you go find it on YouTube and

626
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Speaker 2: check out Spencer Ratler. That's going to be the starting

627
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Speaker 2: quarterback for Oklahoma this fall, and he had his moment yesterday.

628
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, who was the overall quarterback in the country

629
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Speaker 2: early in Rural Lee, he's already on campus, He's gone

630
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Speaker 2: through spring now.

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Speaker 1: He is good. There's a reason all those stars were

632
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Speaker 1: next to his name. He is good.

633
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Speaker 2: And so some people came out of the game yesterday

634
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Speaker 2: and I had a few people texting me, hey, man,

635
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Speaker 2: Williams could start right now if for Oklahoma, well he

636
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: probably could start, Like if you had to, yeah, he

637
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: could start for them.

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Speaker 1: He'd probably be pretty good. For him. The luxury is

639
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to. That's the situation.

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Speaker 2: The situation of Oklahoma is once again, because you're stacking

641
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Speaker 2: talent on top of talent, you get to bring a

642
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Speaker 2: guy in. This is what Alabama did with Bryce Young

643
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Speaker 2: last year. You bring him in djwuy Angila La at

644
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: Clemson bring him in, and you know, unless one of

645
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: your starting quarterbacks gets COVID like Trevor Lawrence did, they

646
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: don't have to start, so they can just they can

647
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: marinate in that offense, in that system, the culture, get

648
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: used to college life, and then you take the top

649
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: rated quarterback in the country. You have him ready to

650
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: fire out of your sling shot this time next year.

651
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: But here is the situation. The situation there is, if

652
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Speaker 2: you want it to be argumentative, one or two of

653
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Speaker 2: my campadres wanted to be yesterday and you wanted to say, well,

654
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Speaker 2: shouldn't the best quarterback start? And Caleb Williams looks like

655
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Speaker 2: the best quarterback I saw today. Well, I don't argue

656
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: that he could have been the best looking quarterback you

657
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: saw yesterday. But I just want to ask you something,

658
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: and this is strictly for argument's sake. There's only like

659
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: the fringe one percent to make this argument, so I'm

660
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: not going to spend a lot of time on it.

661
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: How could you possibly I mean, if you watched every

662
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: play of a spring game of the microscope, how could

663
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: you ever know what a quarterback is, who a quarterback is?

664
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: If we all admit that we're seeing forty to fifty

665
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: percent of what real football is in a spring game, how.

666
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: Could you ever know?

667
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: How could you know that whether Caleb Williams is capable

668
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: of getting you into the right set and shifting to

669
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: protection on third and seven down in the red zone,

670
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: which is going to be the difference between a free

671
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: rusher coming on a blitz, knocking the ball free scoop

672
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: and score you lose by four difference between going ten

673
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: and two and eleven and one difference between a random

674
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: New Year six rotational game and you playing for the

675
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: Big twelve championship game. That's how close the margins are

676
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: in this sport. So how do you know he capable

677
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: of that or not capable of that if he's put

678
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: in a position in a spring game where no one's

679
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: asking him to do it. And so I don't care

680
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: what your arm looks like.

681
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: I do.

682
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't care what kind of window you can fit

683
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: it in even though I do. I don't care how

684
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: up tempo the offense looks and how energized people look.

685
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: Although I do, you're not seeing what a full quarterback's

686
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: plate looks like in a spring game. So that was

687
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: my argumentative take, and then I batted it down like

688
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: a pinata. Imagine being Eric Gray. Eric Gray, the running

689
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: back who's transferred from Tennessee. He gets to wake up

690
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: every morning now in this offense. He just came from

691
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: Jim Cheney's offense. He's waking up in this offense now. Heaven.

692
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: It's as close to it on Earth as you can

693
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: get for a football player. Let me just put it

694
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: that way, Eric Gray, and he's not gonna have to

695
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: be a bell cow or anything like that. They believe

696
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: it or not. They got other talented running backs at Oklahoma.

697
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: But Eric Gray, man, what a perfect situation for him.

698
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: He is literally changing his future several zero's worth probably

699
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: by being at Oklahoma right now. So it's good to

700
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: be him. Rarely does a guy fall into a better situation.

701
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: Mike Woods going from Arkansas to Oklahoma. They finally have

702
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: been able to make that official. It's a really good situation.

703
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: For Mike Woods too. The secondary is the biggest question

704
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: on this defense. Now. I want to categorize this specifically.

705
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying the secondary is a huge weakness. I'm

706
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: saying relative to the other two levels of this defense,

707
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: their secondary is the biggest question. I was listening to

708
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley afterwards yesterday said he, I, man, we feel

709
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: good about defensive line, We feel pretty good about linebacker.

710
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: Secondary could go like fifteen different ways. Yeah, yeah, I could.

711
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: I think I know the way it's probably gonna end

712
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: up going is gonna turn out okay for them. But

713
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: they're finally at a spot now where their defensive line depth,

714
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: the size and versatility, and the numbers of guys that

715
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: they have on the defensive line, it's not a weakness

716
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: for them anymore. It may even be a strength linebacker ditto.

717
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: And what I want to say is, as I move

718
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: on here exiting the spring, this is the fiest amount

719
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: of questions I've ever had about a Lincoln Riley team

720
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma.

721
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm sky high on them.

722
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: I think they're a bona fide national championship contender. And

723
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: if you push back on that, and your main pushback is, well,

724
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: everyone knows they're going to get steamrolled once they face

725
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: an elite SEC team in the playoff. Everyone knows that

726
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: their defense can't stop anyone. I'm telling you, if you

727
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: took this defensive personnel Oklahoma has this year, and you

728
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: threw Florida jerseys on them or Georgia jerseys on them,

729
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: you would crown them national championship contenders. Because the only

730
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: thing about that team right now that has you having

731
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: reservations is stuff that happened in the past. And I'm

732
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: just trying to ease your concerns. If you're an Oklahoma fan,

733
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: you know this, but elsewhere, if you want to buy

734
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: into Ou but you're worried, you're just that stinch of

735
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: those defensive lapses and those horrible performances in the past

736
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: are just eating at you. I don't think it's that

737
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: way there anymore, but I understand if you have to

738
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: see it to believe it, I understand. I think you'll

739
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: see it this year. South Carolina had their spring game

740
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: this afternoon, and South Carolina was a program that I

741
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: was going to end up pushing till later in the

742
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: week because I figure, hey, it's on Sunday. We got

743
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: a show on Sunday. We got a lot of other

744
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: stuff to do. But then I start getting text messages

745
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: from people in the house there. I think they had

746
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand or so, or maybe a smidge more at

747
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: Williams Brice Stadium. And I start getting text from some

748
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: of our observers, some of our moles out in the

749
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: field saying, Hey, they're playing you, guys. And I said, well,

750
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm not playing what. They're playing each other. It's the

751
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: spring game. No, no, no, they're playing you in the stadium.

752
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: And so I said, what are you talking about? Send

753
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: me video, And our buddy Thomas, longtime viewer and friend

754
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: of the show, in the program, he sends us footage.

755
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: Jesse has it actually, So take a look. This was

756
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: Williams Brice Stadium today.

757
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: Love and passion and they just genuine energy.

758
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: If you've got those commodities in your head, Coach, it'll

759
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: solve a lot of problems.

760
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: In this business.

761
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: And if I've said it once, I've said it a

762
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: thousand times. If you play footage from Lake Kick in

763
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: your stadium, you're going to have a prominent place on

764
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: the show. If you put us in your hype videos,

765
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a prominent place on the show. So

766
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: forget about Tuesday, forget about Thursday. We're talking about South

767
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: Carolina right now. Shane Biemer in as head coach, Mike said,

768
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: Mike Bobo started a little auburn on my brain. So

769
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: Mike Bobo, I'm out as offensive coordinator. So he felt

770
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: comfortable after this whole thing, Shane Biemer felt comfortable enough

771
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: to announce Luke Dody as a starting quarterback. Now, those

772
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: of you outside of Columbia South Carolina, this is not

773
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: really ringing any alarm bells. It's not sending up any

774
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: red flags. You don't really care, But I just want

775
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: to inform you. There was a kid named Jason Brown,

776
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: who a lot of Gamecock fans that I've spoken to

777
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: this afternoon thought had the best day out of the

778
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the spring game.

779
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: And granted the spring game is not the entire spring session.

780
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: They being the coaching staff, they have seen a whole

781
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: lot more than we've seen.

782
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: I kind of.

783
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Agree with you if you thought that I watched Brown,

784
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: I said, he kind of, it's like the best quarterback

785
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: on this particular day.

786
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: Now, there are a million.

787
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Caveats I don't have to even throw out there, they

788
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: ran the ball a toime. Today, they didn't throw it

789
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: a whole lot. I think that, in and of itself

790
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: is kind of a telltale sign. Maybe they don't want

791
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: to show you anything, Maybe they don't have much to

792
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: show you. It is peculiar, I'll grant you a little

793
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: bit peculiar that the coaching staff felt the need or

794
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: just soft fit to say, coming out of spring, Luke

795
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: Doties are starting quarterback now. Shane Biemer did go on

796
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: to say, now, I'm not telling you, I'm not swearing

797
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: a blood oath to you that he's going to start

798
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: week one. I'm just saying, we're coming out of spring,

799
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: he's our starting quarterback. You know, he's taking all the

800
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: first team reps. Only feels natural to tell you that. YadA, YadA, YadA.

801
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm not questioning how anyone runs their program.

802
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you are more entrenched in the

803
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: Carolina community, if you're, for instance, over on the Big

804
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: Spur message board, some of you have gotten your neck

805
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: turned a little sideways over this, and I I'm kind

806
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: of with you, but I'm you know, I'm not gonna

807
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: argue with the coach who stands right behind his quarterback

808
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: every day at practice and watches all this. There were

809
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: guys along the defensive line today. Jordan Birch was a

810
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: name that we mentioned. We wanted to see Zach Pickens

811
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: that there are names that popped today at times. They

812
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: need to go two for two or three for three,

813
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: like all those guys that you have been talking about

814
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: that you want to see perform. They got to go

815
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: two or two or three for three at least, and

816
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: then they got to develop some more guys because if

817
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: they don't have them. And you can say that about

818
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: many positions on Carolina's roster right now, going to be

819
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: a long year. They have several good options at running back, though,

820
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: and so I think complimentary style. You're looking at this

821
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: quarterback decision that they have to make that may in

822
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: pencil already be made, and it's just trying to compliment

823
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: the roster. I mean, this wide receiver room is not

824
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: a good room. And so even if you thought you

825
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: had a guy that was a plus to maybe an

826
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: average option in terms of arm talent at quarterback, what

827
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: would you really do with them? If you had an

828
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: elite guy, you know, the transcendent elite type guys they

829
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: can make receivers in some cases, or you can get

830
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 2: receivers through the portal that want to come play with him.

831
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: I don't think we have that situation at South Carolina

832
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: right now, So the roster has a ways to go.

833
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: No one's under the misguided notion that it doesn't. The

834
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: most homeeristic of Carolina fans that I've ever spoken to

835
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: out there do not disagree with that.

836
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: But when they look right now, they're interested.

837
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: And I'm interested since we've announced Luke Dodia's sort of

838
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback at the moment, how much can he

839
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: progress over the offseason, Because I'm sure that coach of

840
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: staffer look at you right now. I'm sure Shane Biemer

841
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: would look at us and tell us we've only scratched

842
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: the surface of what we think he's capable of. The

843
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: reason why he's our starter is number one, because we

844
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: feel like he gives us the best chance to win

845
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: when we play in the fall. The spring game today

846
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: doesn't count, So whatever you saw from him or Jason

847
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: Brown or anyone else in the spring game, let that

848
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: be what it is. He's my starting quarterback, and he's

849
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: the guy we're investing the most reps him because of

850
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: what we think he can do by the time we

851
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: have to tee it up this season.

852
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: So I understand that philosophy.

853
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: My question rhetorically in return that won't get answered right now,

854
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: is well, how far can you bring him from now

855
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: until that point? Because there are certain limitations physically that

856
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to overcome, is my point there.

857
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: So if they can't push.

858
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: It downfield better than you got the sense they could

859
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: as we sit here right now having the spring game today,

860
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: then it's gonna be tough to score.

861
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough to win. I think.

862
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: Also, though you know, overall, remember when they hired Shane Biemer,

863
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: When South Carolina hired him, this was the fan popular choice,

864
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: and so no one is even though maybe you know

865
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: you got questions, you got questions because of what he

866
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: was left, you don't have questions because of anything Shane

867
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: Beemer has or hasn't done. And so I'm looking around

868
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: and I'm asking the same thing about Tennessee as I'm

869
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: asking about South Carolina and a couple other programs. There

870
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: is that two front approach that I've been talking about

871
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: over the last several months. Because we talk about these

872
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: programs a lot. It's what you're doing out front to

873
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: engage the fan base, to engage the community, to engage

874
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: and promote the brand. Tennessee's got to do the same

875
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: thing I've told you. Georgia Tech is the model for

876
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: this right now. And then there's what you're doing behind

877
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: the scenes. This is a program to watch, This is

878
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: a portal program to watch in the off seat. I

879
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: do not think that the roster as it sits right

880
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: now exiting spring is a mirror image, by any stretch

881
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: of what we're going to see come fall. I don't

882
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: even think you need to be all that informed about

883
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: South Carolina football to say that, To be honest with you,

884
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: how about North Carolina?

885
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: Now?

886
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: North Carolina is a team that a lot of people

887
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: are buying a whole lot of stock in South Carolina

888
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: moved their game to today Sunday to avoid the rain.

889
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 2: Mac Brown, safe to say, took a little bit different approach,

890
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: and he got all salty about it too. In the

891
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 2: postgame he said, I'm glad we didn't move our game

892
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: because you know what, there's.

893
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Going to come a time this fall. Well, we got

894
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: to play in the rain, and they're not going to

895
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: let us move the game to Sunday.

896
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: So I'm glad we got some wet ball stuff in

897
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: today and I'm glad we went out there.

898
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: And we weathered the elements.

899
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: Side note, it also made the defense at times look

900
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: like the eighty six Bears, and that's something we don't

901
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: see at North Carolina very often.

902
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: So that was fun.

903
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: But things are changing quick at North Carolina. I've asked

904
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: the question all spring about them, how far could their

905
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: front seven really come over the span of one spring.

906
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: I think the answer is quite a ways. So North

907
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Carolina looks like a different team defensively. And this is

908
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: not strictly from spring game viewing. This is stuff They're

909
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: coaches and people inside and close to the program have

910
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: been saying all spring long, and really even coming out

911
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: of the season. They were saying, you way to use

912
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: see what they look like when this guy's healthier, that

913
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: guy comes in, or this guy does that way.

914
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: Do you see what they look like in the spring?

915
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: And then the fall of twenty twenty one, they seem

916
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: really encouraged, and I think they have every reason to

917
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: be encouraged. They've got more big bodies to rotate, and

918
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: that means the younger guys like Javari Ritzy for example,

919
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: coming in, but Silver Jones. They got a lot of

920
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: really high caliber younger guys that they can bring in

921
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: and they can work along and they can probably end

922
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: up rotating. A lot of those guys are gonna play

923
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: this year. They're not guys they have to lean on though,

924
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: Whereas if this were the case last year, they'd be

925
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: bringing those guys in, they'd be starting week one, and

926
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: they'd be so green that you would you just have

927
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: vulnerability that you couldn't work around, even though you'd have

928
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: a lot of young talent. Well, now they got a

929
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: lot of mixture of young talent and veteran talent, and

930
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: it's a really really good look at North Carolina right now.

931
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: Desmond Evans, there are some names. Desmond Evans is a

932
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: guy who could blow up for them. He was a

933
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: guy last year that the coaching staff was high on.

934
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: Mac Brown talked about and the coaching staff was high

935
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: on him. Missed the spring and then ends up missing

936
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 2: a lot of the summer, and then he got sick

937
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: in the fall and you just never got to see

938
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: his twenty.

939
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: Twenty get off the ground.

940
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: And now they got him where they want him at linebacker,

941
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: and he's got a chance to get a season off

942
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: the ground him. Eugene Assante is another guy looks ready

943
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: to explode. These are future Sunday players now that North

944
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: Carolina has on not their offense.

945
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: These aren't receivers.

946
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: These are future Sunday players they have defensively, it's just

947
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: not stuff that we've been saying about North Carolina very often.

948
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 2: Running back is if you want to circle some position groups,

949
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: it doesn't look to be at the level that they

950
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: want it to be.

951
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'd.

952
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: Tell you, well, the format yesterday wasn't really inducive to

953
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: us looking the strongest at that position group. I was

954
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: over on Inside Carolina today. They had the stat they

955
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: had thirty seven runs yesterday from running backs. They had

956
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: about six of them. They worked in the rotation. They

957
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 2: averaged three point five yards per carry. So that either

958
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: means we've completely turned the corner defensively, or we got

959
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: some work to do at running back, or maybe this

960
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: rain does have a little bit to do with the

961
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: format and style of this game. So I have minimal concern.

962
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: You notice I haven't even talked about the passing game.

963
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: I have minimal concern about it. Got all the confidence

964
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: in the world. Sam, How good to see Drake may

965
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: get some reps yesterday. He can come along another one

966
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: of those very talented newcomers. They can take a season

967
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: and learn and then.

968
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: Be ready next year.

969
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: They will be what they need to be offensively, have

970
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: very little doubt about that.

971
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: But what I love.

972
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Is if you think about what North Carolina football is

973
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: through the first couple of years under Mac Brown and

974
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: what it was before. Then if you think about what

975
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: it is and then you think about it coming out

976
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: of spring and find seemingly the defense being where the

977
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: spotlight is as opposed to the offense. Phil Longo's got

978
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: to love that offensive coordinator up therese Finally, finally he

979
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: gets to preach.

980
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: You know, when it comes.

981
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: To the pecking order of attention around here, you guys

982
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: aren't necessarily a runaway number one.

983
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: At the moment.

984
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: But yet I think they'll be able to turn it

985
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: on when the light comes on in the fall. But

986
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: when you are starting to talk at North Carolina about

987
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: being able to lean on defense a little bit, that's

988
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: how you become a contender. That's how you become a

989
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: team who doesn't need to be plus four in turnovers

990
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 2: to have an outside shot of beating Clemson. You feel

991
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: good about your odds. You're not going to be favored

992
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: against them, but you feel good if you go up

993
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: against them. You feel good about your odds, and they should.

994
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a program that's program tracking in as

995
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: good a direction under still a relatively new staff. I

996
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: think about them is still a new staff. I know

997
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: there are a couple of years in now, but I

998
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: still feel like things are changing there. I still feel

999
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: like the dynamics change in there to where people aren't

1000
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 2: used to it yet. I think if they follow through

1001
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: on the style of team, it feels like they're putting

1002
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: together for twenty twenty one. If that comes to fruition

1003
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: on the field this fall, people talk totally differently about

1004
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: North Carolina football. That's our show. We've got a lot

1005
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: done tonight. We have got a week coming up that

1006
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: is loaded with NFL Draft.

1007
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Now, we're not a draft show.

1008
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: Obviously, we'll have a show Thursday, but I think what

1009
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 2: we're gonna do is, I think we're going to air

1010
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: it a little bit ahead of the draft. So check

1011
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: back because it'll I'll let you know well ahead of time,

1012
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: but probably gonna run the Thursday show a little bit

1013
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: earlier than we normally do, so unlike the Oscars tonight,

1014
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: which we couldn't care less about and went straight heads

1015
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: up against. And I can guarantee you can guarantee you

1016
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: headline tomorrow morning. Academy Awards ratings plummet if the Grammys

1017
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: suffered the same fate and the Oscars didn't learn the lesson,

1018
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: So hey whatever, But for the.

1019
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Draft, we'll move. We're not gonna move the side, but

1020
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: we'll move a little bit, so stay tuned for that.

1021
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at late Kick Josh,

1022
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: I appreciate you so much for watching the show. Give

1023
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: us big thumbs up on the video while you're at

1024
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: it for director Emeritus Collins, Jesse and all the folks

1025
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: in Connecticut.

1026
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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Bate. Have a great week, and God bless