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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Free Agent Preview Podcast. But look

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Speaker 1: at some key in house free agents this offseason. Now,

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Speaker 1: here's the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor from the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome inside another episode of the Free Agency

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Speaker 2: Preview podcast here on Colts dot Com, the Colts Mobile app,

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Speaker 2: and the Colts Audio Network wherever you download your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Going to be back with you again inside the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. Matt Taylor here joined by

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Speaker 2: my compadres Casey Valier and Colt's Ring of Honor member

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Speaker 2: Bill Brooks. Guys, what's the word? How we doing today?

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Speaker 3: We're doing good? Man, We're doing good. How about you, Billy?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing WHOA can't come plain? Life's good in the

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Speaker 4: sunshine and we're not there yet. It's yes, not for

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Speaker 4: me quite yet.

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Speaker 2: What benchmarks do we have to reach in order? For

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Speaker 2: Bill Brooks? Golf weather like late March, you know, late

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Speaker 2: March in the sixties.

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Speaker 4: You have to be sixties, very very little win some sunshine.

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Speaker 3: That's that's real funny because I'm very similar. I have

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Speaker 3: a I come from a very golf heavy family. And

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Speaker 3: my dad and both of my brothers are much better

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Speaker 3: golfers than I. So like I'm at I'm done with

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Speaker 3: the whole competing because I just can't compete anymore. So

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Speaker 3: they asked me to golf.

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Speaker 2: I look at the weather.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's fifty five degrees. I don't think I

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Speaker 3: want to wear a jacket and play golf today.

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Speaker 2: I got bad news for you, Bill. He would run

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Speaker 2: you off the court. Oh for sure he would.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no. I haven't seen Casey play.

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Speaker 4: But no, you don't need to.

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Speaker 2: You don't need I've seen you play. I don't need

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Speaker 2: to see Casey.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I look, there's a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: Bill off the squirrel not here and there? And I

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Speaker 4: was that might have been a day I just found

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Speaker 4: the found then.

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Speaker 2: He can get up and down. Now Bill can get

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Speaker 2: up and down. If you know what I'm saying right

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Speaker 2: there by the way, I always have trouble. It's it's

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Speaker 2: a mouthful, Billy. The How do we describe you? You're

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Speaker 2: not former Colts Ring of Honor member because you're still

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Speaker 2: in the Ring of Honor. You're a former Wide Receiver

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Speaker 2: and Ring of Honor member.

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Speaker 4: Former Colts Wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: No, you left out a very important clause that Bill

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Speaker 3: being modest Again, does it.

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Speaker 2: Ever get old to hear that? I mean, I'm asking truthfully,

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Speaker 2: I mean does it ever get old? I mean, you

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Speaker 4: To have that mentioned and to be up there in

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Speaker 4: the ring of honor with a lot of other great players,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Marvin Harrison is, the Reggie Wayne's and

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Speaker 4: guys like that. So it's it's great to be up there,

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Speaker 4: and I'm honored, and it's thankful. It's always sure, it's

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Speaker 4: nice to hear, but it's it's just indeed, it's it's

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Speaker 2: Nobody more gracious right there than Bill Brooks. All Right,

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Speaker 2: our free agency previews here, this is where we're putting

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Speaker 2: the spotlight on some in house free agents for the

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Speaker 2: Colts heading into the start of the new league year,

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Speaker 2: which comes up in mid March. Earlier this week, we

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Speaker 2: focused on Michael Pittman Junior. We also focused on Gardner Minshew.

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Speaker 2: Check those out now on Colts dot com and here

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Speaker 2: on the Colts Audio Network. But today we're staying on

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Speaker 2: offense and talking about the running game with running back

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Speaker 2: Zack Moss. And before we get into the nitty gritty

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Speaker 2: on mister Moss, fellas, when you talk about professionalism, when

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Speaker 2: loved having Zach Moss on your team with his professionalism

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Speaker 3: You know, you're not. That's one of the things that

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Speaker 3: You were like, wow, this guy can you know, he

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Speaker 3: It hits him with a t And one of the

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Speaker 3: year when somebody kept asking, you know, you would all

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Speaker 3: Like this is what I've always done. I just haven't

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Speaker 3: had that opportunity. So he maintained that professionalism and he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, to me, I'll go off the opportunity part.

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Speaker 4: He always said that he just wanted an opportunity. You know,

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Speaker 4: then when people say that you know what you want, opportunity, well,

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Speaker 4: He did a great job, and you used to wear professionalism,

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Speaker 4: very professional, went about his business. The people, the players

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, good stuff right there. All right, here's

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Speaker 2: the capsule on Zach Moss. The Colts traded for him

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Speaker 2: This season, twenty twenty three, delivered a breakout year, totaling

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Speaker 2: He did miss three games due to two separate right

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Speaker 2: to kind of the bigger picture here, because in early

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Speaker 2: Certainly the price tag now is in play at that

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Speaker 4: And that's a good question. And now you look at

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Speaker 4: seems like it makes it kind of hard or difficult

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Speaker 3: And that's that's where it gets tricky. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: I agree with Bill, and you kind of look at

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Speaker 3: look at their backup running back and it is not

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Speaker 3: But you know, Zack Moss, it's almost one of those

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Speaker 3: but Zack Moss played so well that you're almost excited

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Speaker 3: there's only a handful of teams that really use that,

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Speaker 3: but that running back by committee where you're both getting

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Speaker 3: you know, two hundred carries and it's a good, true split.

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Speaker 3: I think he's hurted himself in that right.

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Speaker 2: It's tough. I mean, I think you're both right. It's

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Speaker 2: tough because you always want room on your team for

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Speaker 2: good football players and guys with high character values. But

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Speaker 2: your point, Bill, it's kind of a lightning rod. It's

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Speaker 2: was polarizing, Josh Jacobs polarizing Saquon Barkley and all that's

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Speaker 2: the motto around most of the league is go younger,

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Speaker 2: go cheaper. You know, it'd be great to have a

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Speaker 2: but we can get by with a seventh round pick

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Speaker 2: an undrafted free agent that gives you eighty eighty five

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Speaker 2: seems like Casey I asked this question every time we

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Speaker 2: worth noting. I mean, when you do have a quarterback

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Speaker 2: splurge at other positions? And is running back still an

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Speaker 2: line to pay you know, Michael Pittman junior top dollar

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Speaker 2: having so many other marque free agents.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that what's your the value

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be really interesting because you talk about the

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Speaker 2: So it's one of them. We want to be running

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Speaker 2: Lastly, on our vignette here on Zach Moss, Let's play

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Speaker 4: I think they can do it. But you know, also

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Speaker 4: So I think those two guys can do it.

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Speaker 3: And I think when you're looking at that group, you

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Speaker 3: And I think Jonathan Taylor, as you're all encompassing, he

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Speaker 3: to go with that go out there compete and just

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Speaker 3: And I think that's gonna be important too.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right, great breakdown right there. That's everything you

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Speaker 2: need to know on Zach Moss, another unrestricted free agent

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Speaker 2: for the Indianapolis Colts, one of thirteen of such players

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Speaker 2: going into the new league year in March. Regardless of

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Speaker 2: one there and that nine Hindz trade and tip of

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Speaker 2: the cap to Zach Moss for what he did the

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Speaker 2: last year and a half for the Colts. Some really

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Speaker 2: good perspective right there from Bill Brooks and Casey Valier.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Bill, got to get out there, dust

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Speaker 2: out those wrenches.

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Speaker 4: Now, come on, come on, not quite warm enough yet.

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Speaker 2: I will make you at the clubhouse. No, no, well

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Speaker 2: you might see did you play to Natcha? Okay, we

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Speaker 2: might the front nine there. No, no, we might go.

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Speaker 2: You want to go have lunch there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know about playing golf right now, not

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Speaker 4: quite yet.

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Speaker 2: You gotta meet that country club stipend, that food stipend.

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Speaker 3: To those new U what's that there's that new golfing

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Speaker 3: indoor thing with those simulators.

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Speaker 2: You go there, you have a beer, you're inside, you

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Speaker 2: do whatthing like that? Wat some balls at a bar?

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Speaker 2: Sign me up right, I'll do those.

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Speaker 4: I'll do that. Now we can go somewhere inside.

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Speaker 2: And I'll still in the back door. I got a

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Speaker 2: special place. Bouncer there knows me. You're gonna wack some

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Speaker 2: balls and drink some beer and watch some basketball. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we built this place for you. A fantastic job. Guys,

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Speaker 2: have a great weekend. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, right on good stuff right there,

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Speaker 2: Casey Valier, Bill Brooks. Coming up next week will dive

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Speaker 2: more into the free agent profiles of Kenny Moore the Second,

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Speaker 2: Grover Stewart, and Julian Blackman. We're going all things defense

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Speaker 2: next week on our Free Agent Preview podcast series here

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Speaker 2: on Colts dot Com and the Colts Audio Network. Again

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Speaker 2: for Casey and Bill, I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 2: to everybody, Have a great weekend and we will talk

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Speaker 2: to you soon.

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Speaker 4: So long.