WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc, Ocho, and Samba discuss Thibodeau gets fired from the Knicks and Jaycee Horn goes off on NFL nerds! 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:02.520 The volume. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.000 The pass cornerback. J C. Horn went out from Pro 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.799 Football Focus of their top ten cornerback rankings. This is 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.599 what happens when you let nerds who never touched the 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.920 field feel like they no ball man. Pro Football Focus 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.560 rank him twenty fifth in the NFL said Horn is talented, 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.840 but it's struggled with injuries in the NFL, despite being 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.520 the league's second highest pad corner. Horn ranks twenty third 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.239 in Pro Football Focus at advanced coverage grade over the 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:50.320 last three seasons and twenty third in standard PFF coverage 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.880 grade of seventy nine point six across the past two 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.400 sauss Gardner's won, Pat ser Taddy's two, Trent McDuffie is three, 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.600 Jalen Johnson, Darryl Stanley Jr. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:02.200 It's five. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:07.120 DJ Reid is six, Marlon Humphrey is seven, Kristin Benfred 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.960 is eight, jah Ere Alexander is nine, Denzel Ward is ten. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.240 In fact, let me let me tell you something. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.039 The fact that you know this list isn't correct, the 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.840 fact that Denzel Ward is all the way at ten. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:24.720 But then okay, let me ask you this, Oh Joe, 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.920 who you taking off this list and putting jac Horn 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:29.880 in front of what number. 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.360 Wait, see I needed I can't. I can't see that 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.559 from me, Run me, run me the first team real. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.320 Quick assaults gone. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:42.560 There's one pass trip flip, but go ahead, okay. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:43.039 Trip. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.960 McDuffie is three, Kansas City, Jalen Johnson Barris four, Darryl 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:53.000 Stingley Jr. Tight Texans five. DJ Reed he's with the Lions, Knight. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.120 If I'm not mistaken, he's with the Jets. Last year, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:02:00.559 he's six, Marlon Humphrey, Baltimore Ravens seven, Kristin Bedford, Buffalo Bills, 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:05.480 Hey y'ah here, Alexander nine, Green bay Denzel Ward ten. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.560 Now people on that list who you taking off and 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:09.160 putting them on. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.079 I mean they disrespect. I've watched everybody. I watched everybody 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:12.760 who said play. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.880 And I'm not talking about just watching them on Sunday 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.240 them talking about I've seen film of them actually in 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.440 practicing what they've done, and I've seen the game film. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.720 Now DJ Reid, I don't know much about. I don't 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.880 know much about DJ Reid. I'm gonna be honest. I 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.120 haven't seen him play. I haven't watched him. So if 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.360 I was to take anybody off it'll be DJ Reid. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.799 Excuse me, I mean, no disrespecting Young Bull. I'm sure 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:34.840 Young Bull is good because he's on there. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.720 For a reason. But I know and I've seen J C. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:44.280 Horn play yeah consistently. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.839 I'm a big Stanley fan man Hey Stingy the real 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.639 deal way Stanley fann Man. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:52.120 I love. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.040 I love the way the way you play. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.639 You know, he reminds me of like well football used 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.000 to be when I was in there watching it with 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.239 my grandpa as a kid. 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:00.760 I love his in it you had to bring. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.919 But honestly, when he come to these lists, sometimes I'll 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.080 be trying to understand what's the criteria with some of 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.639 these things, Like what are they coming up with? Because 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.160 sometimes it felt like they picked somebody because they got 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.320 a bigger following on social media or something. 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.400 It ain't got nothing to do with they ned, So. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.280 I'll be trying to figure out where where does this 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.080 stuff come from? 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.399 I agree with you, O Joe. I think Pastor Tan 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.040 for me, is the best corn in football. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:32.600 Uh. Stingley obviously had a magnificent season. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.840 Trent McDuffie, he's never made an All Pro team, don't 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:37.760 I think he's made one? 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:38.480 Let me take that back. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.400 I think he's made one, but I don't think he's 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.480 ever made a Pro Bowl. Uh. He's sensational, especially in 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.200 the slot. Sauce, we know what saut Field. Sauce was 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.520 a defensive Rookie of the Year. All these guys are phenomenal. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.920 We know Marlon Humphrey is not as its not what 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:57.360 he was was on the outside. But in that slot. Yeah, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.960 Beffert really came into his own last year. We know 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:05.200 y'all here what he is, what he represents at Denzel, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.040 a fluid, smooth transition. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.480 Looks really honestly, I mean no disrespect what Denzel. Denzel 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.200 is top five right now. I'm talking about in the 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.480 entirety of the league. You know, forget this list. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:17.080 I understand. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.600 I think he top five, oh chart. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.800 Hey, when we talk about a technique merchant, I'm talking 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.200 about Okay, technive, it don't matter, it don't matter who 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.719 he playing. Well, he can party, and he's switching up 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.120 based on who he playing against, too. He gonna play 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:37.040 everybody different. So I'm sitting there watching him depending on Okay, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.320 let's say when they play the Bengals fences the way 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.720 he played T Higgins, he played Chase different and I'm 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.040 sitting here watching this man I'm talking about it's like art. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.360 It's like watching art because he had a different post 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.480 depending on who it is every single time. Then the 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.120 naked eye, the casual fan can't see it, but I'm 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.120 looking at it. I'm like, what the and I'm in 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.920 to my to me, hey, I'm him like Seim, I'm 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.080 looking like but damn. The defensive coordinatoring in Cleveland and 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.320 Cleveland give him that much freedom to be able to 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.599 do stuff like that. Normally, when you get out there 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.880 and lineup, you line up the same way the same 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.520 time based on the coverage, the coverage of the defense 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:15.040 that's called. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.480 Now, what you like, how you think you would have 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.480 reacted if he would have been guarding you? What you 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:21.480 would have did too? 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.400 I would have turned that twenty one to twelve. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:26.880 With me. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.720 I respect Hey, listen, I told I forgot where was at. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.000 Might have been Super Bowl or something, or I sat 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.760 there and told him. I told him about plays. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.040 He did though. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.880 He is a tremendous man, the man corner boy, especially him, Bump. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.279 I talk about technical signing when the ball is now. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.160 He never paned man. He played up all your elite 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.280 ball skills him and stingy, but got some of the 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.760 best ball skills along with certain I've ever seen brouh. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.359 No, That's why I like Stanley so much, for exactly 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.320 what you just broke down. And that's why I got 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.560 quiet because you speaking from experience. I'm speaking from a 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.119 so you looking at it from you actually playing the game. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:05.839 I'm looking at it as a fan. But what I 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.160 see with Stantley is kind of what you just explained. 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.920 He plays different players difference. He can kind of play 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.240 both sides of the field. He get to it, he 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.960 get off his line fast, So I rock with him. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:17.159 He nice. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.560 Yeah, I like God. I like God to travel. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.120 Uh. You know, you look at Sauce and Pat, they're 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.160 kind of more They kind of like the tall angular guys. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.039 Pat sirs had is so smooth. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.559 He transitioned extremely well, the way he can flip his hips. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.560 For a guy his size, it's hard pressed and you 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.200 probably won't find a guy because. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.040 Sir Tanna's like six two. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:45.320 I mean yeah, ain't no, ain't no, yeah, ain't no 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.360 six foot he's six foot no, no, no, he's six two. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.280 Maybe even tall Denzel Wards maybe not that tall. But 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.640 they kind of got sauce. Pat and Denzel kind of 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.520 have the same body type. They're like Finn framed. But 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:06.200 but uh CD is like as good a technique for 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.120 someone he has good a technique like now Revers had 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:09.800 some techniques. 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.000 I was just thinking about Daryl Reeves when you. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.040 When it comes to playing the position, when it comes 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:19.680 to playing dB, I've always said that. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.120 I've been saying it for years. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.840 I think dB is the hardest position on the field 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:29.040 outside outside of the quarterback. Reavers got the patience at 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.960 the line of scrimmage of Sally May because you know everybody. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.600 Still owe them loans for years and years a year. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.200 That's the kind of patience I spoke God, that's kind 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:38.280 of patience Reavers got. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.280 You can take all the moves you want. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.640 He not moving, He's not budging until you go. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:46.520 Move. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:47.480 You forget it. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.520 Might he might not bite the second move. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.760 Doc Hey, O Joe, you can, Oh Joe, you could 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.680 do all this right, You do it all this right 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:56.600 here that you will. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.880 Still waste because your waist ain't going nowhere. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.800 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.480 Shout out to Josh Norman too, man, Josh, you need 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.200 to lock there as well. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.040 Jared Verus troll pooking the coure for looking like Lord Farquhar. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.880 Watch this, y'all, I don't know. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.640 We have famous people in the building now, scheg it out, 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:20.920 schigure it out, schig it out. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:34.520 Yeah, Lord Funk partners, Mom got Lord Funk. That's that's 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.120 what it's all about. That's what Joe, that's what you missed. 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.040 All that joney that goes on in the Ota, that 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.439 goes on in mini camps and training camps and all 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:43.760 this is what you missed. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:43.959 Man. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.920 You can't where're gonna get this from, Joe? When you 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.400 leave the game, where you're gonna get it from, You're 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:49.160 not gonna be around. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.960 It's impossible. It's impossible. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.200 You try to listen, you try to recreate it with 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.520 your friends that have nothing to do with the game 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.559 of football that you've known all your life, but it 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.600 would be I feel like being in that locker room. 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:02.960 Nothing. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.600 Nope, all right, Sember, we're gonna get to your favorite 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.160 We're gonna get to some NBA news. 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:09.440 Oh yeah. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.000 Five seasons with the Knicks, Tom Fibodeaux went to twenty 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.120 six and one seventy four led the Knicks to the playoffs. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:20.560 Four times, including back to back fifty win seasons, including 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.800 Eastern Conference Finals appearance for the first time in twenty 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.840 five years, advanced to and they advanced to the East Finals. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.440 That wasn't enough, even Rick Carlisle said today, when I 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.080 first saw it, I thought it was one of those 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.840 fake AI things. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.000 No way, there's no way. Simber when you. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.440 First heard the news, you read it, he's like, man, 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:41.520 they fired TIBs. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:42.839 What went through your mind? 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:43.199 Uh? 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.880 I kind of expected it. I kind of expected it. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.800 I feel like Tibbs And no disrespect to TIBs because 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.840 he's a legend, but I feel like his style of 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.000 coaching is a bit outdated. I feel he kind of 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.960 looks for things that the game doesn't call for anymore, 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.040 and he doesn't really go deep into his bench, and 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.199 by the time his players get to the fourth quarter, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.679 they gassed. And we kind of seen that in the playoffs. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.320 We've seen Indiana kind of running him back and forth. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.040 He tried to get deep in the bench. In basketball, 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.480 just like football, anything of sports, it's a game of rhythm, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.000 you know what I mean. So you can't just throw 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.040 somebody in the playoffs when they ain't been playing all season. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.760 In the third quarter and expect them to knock down shots. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:29.800 So I think Bruntson could definitely benefit from a different coach. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.880 The Knicks could. And I don't see I've seen what 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.400 you guys are saying the other night. I don't see 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.720 why Tim's kind of brought Caddy in if they had 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.959 the same issue back in Minnesota. I kind of don't 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.480 get where that came from. But I think the call 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.480 was a good call. It might be a bit confusing, 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:46.559 but I think it was a good call. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.040 Hey, and the wake up oh you read this, and 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.480 the wake of Tims fired. More reports have come out 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.040 about the Knicks coaching staff. Multiple Knick players have reportedly 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.920 been unhappy with the presence of assistant coach Rick Brunson, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:04.720 who happens to be the dad of Jalen Brunson per Hoops. 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.840 While multiple Nick players have been unhappy with the presence 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.080 of assistant coach Rick Brunson, who happened to be the 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.480 father of star point guard Jalen Brunson, what that issue 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.920 is exactly has not been determined. Those sources suggest that 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.520 Rick has too big of a say in things. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.280 Well is he probably gonna be the interim coach or 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.079 maybe the coach said that step. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:26.960 Now they're gonna have a new coach. He ain't gonna 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.040 be there in them, he ain't gonna be nothing. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.040 So you don't think. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.280 I don't think. I don't think they're gonna give him 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.040 the job. I don't think if they would have better, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.480 I think Leon Rose and Worldwide West, who runs the 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:46.480 Knicks for Dolan? They're looking, Is it gonna be Bootenholzer, 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.800 Is it gonna be local? Is it gonna be you 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.760 know one of these guys? Uh uh? What's Mike. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.920 And Letter say? The funny thing about it is is Timms. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:06.360 Tims led the the Knicks to one of their greatest 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.040 not greatest season, but he took them very far. It's 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.120 been a very very long time since they've been in 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.720 a game of that magnitude or a series of that magnitude. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:15.880 And when you look at the records of the past coaches, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.360 I mean, he's done the best. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:17.839 Again. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.520 I agree with see him based on what out come. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.040 You know, the little bit of basketball knowledge that I 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.280 do have is he does running players into the ground, 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.880 and they wore tie it. They were tired, especially when 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.240 they got to the back end of the season. The 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.440 back end of the series. Yeah, them boys ain't had 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:34.040 no legs. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:35.520 Mm hmm. 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.079 But let me ask you a question. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.760 Okay, it's like, oh man, they lost to they lost 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.840 to the uh, they lost to the Pacers. Had they 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:45.960 had they lost to Boston, would you're still a fired 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.679 Because I think the thing is maybe maybe beating the 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.840 beating the Celtics, who's the defending champs, Maybe that set 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:57.880 them unrealistic expectations because now, man, we knocked off Jason 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.480 Tatum and Jaylen Brown, the team that won the champions 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.520 just a year ago, won sixty games, and now we 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.520 lose to the Pacers. But if you go back to 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.800 look at the places, they got five six guys and 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.199 double figures every game. That's what they do. They're committee. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.560 So you don't know who gonna light your ass up. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.320 For one or two games. It might be si Okam. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.439 Another game, it might be niemanth another game, it might 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.160 be Halliburton. So you you it's hard for you to determine, well, 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:24.200 who do we take away? 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.960 Who do we take away? So I think that's what happened. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.000 I think once they beat the Celtics, everybody's like, oh Nick, 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.440 oh man, Nick going to the finals. Yeah, oh, we 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.400 got the Pacers. The Pacers just beat y'all last year 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.079 in Game seven on y'all home court. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:40.760 I was one of them people too, right there. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.520 My bad. This was this was this was a worst 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.000 matchup for the next because the thing that the Pacers 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.800 do the Knicks don't do well is get back on defense. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.400 If you look at the Pacers, they're looking to run, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.400 make or miss. They'll take it out, take it off 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.600 the rim, or take it out the net. You saw 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.120 the last game on Joe the Dicks make a basket 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:04.679 and in one past they Pascal Siacame is euro step 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:05.240 and laying. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.319 Them all up up the floor. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.840 So and you look at it. So now you got 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.720 Cat and people can play. They were complaining about Cat 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.160 playing defense, when if you known Cata the defensive guys. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:21.880 So what you gave up getting Michael Bridges all those 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.200 draft picks, you weaken your bitch, and in the process 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.920 of weeking your bitch, now you got the ride. Guys 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.240 got to play guys extending minutes in the regular season, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:32.520 and you overload. 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.040 Them come playoff time. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.760 He expanded it, but if you remember the first Coming series, 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.960 he was only playing seven guys and then it got 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.880 to the point he played eight nine guys, it's too late, 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:45.160 too late. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:45.560 Agree. 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.000 I agree, I think and New York might tear me 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.640 up for this, but I think Boston lost that series 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.320 more than New York won it. And what I mean 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.880 by that was, we didn't see great coaching from Tims. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.960 In the first two games. We seen Boston get comfort 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.080 the bull and the Knicks make an incredible comeback twice. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.360 We didn't see great coaching and great tactics. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.520 And I think Boston kind of just like what you 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.960 just said, how the Knicks felt about the Pacers felt 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.280 that way about the Knicks, like, oh, we got the Knicks, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.200 we got this, it's easy, and they kind of got comfortable, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.200 let their feet off the gas, and they suffered in 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:19.760 the long run. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.840 Well, what happened was that they're shooting all them damn threes, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.680 and you see what happened. Now, when you make them, 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.160 that's great, But what happened when you miss them? And 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.960 now they don't because they've been so successful making those 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:35.120 threes come crunch clutch time, they can't run no sets. 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.840 They still jacking them a bunch of threes. And you 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:38.720 see the Knicks. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.600 Operating every time, they getting lay up, they getting whatever 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:45.880 they want to get. Man, I mean teams like with Damn, 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:47.920 I probably we should We probably should have lost to 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.040 the sel Things because I do believe, and I could 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.720 and I could be totally wrong, Sam, but I believe 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.400 because they beat the Celtics they had unrealistic expectations. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.240 They thought they were gonna have a cake walk to 0:15:58.320 --> 0:15:59.280 the NBA Finals. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.240 Yep, I totally agree with that. Let me ask you, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.800 guys this, where do you see Tibbs going? And what 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.800 do you think is the nixt head coach for the Knicks. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.920 He Well, you got some guys out there. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.160 You got Mike Malone, you got Bootenholzer, you got Frank Vogel. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:21.480 Hell, give Sam can sale chance. You know what about 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:22.200 Mark Jackson? 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:24.080 Bring Mark back? 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:30.080 He played in the guard. He's from New York. Uh, 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:34.280 I'm trying to think who I'm trying to think Who's 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:41.480 who's a hot hotare Stephen Smith? Steven Day and tried 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.400 to Steve They tried to coach no basketball. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.040 I was like, look, I. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:51.880 Mean, Sam, Mark Jackson, even hell, you don't even hear 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.640 Mark Jackson ain't even mentioned for coaching. 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.920 Yeah, it feels like they completely pushed Mark Jackson out. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.920 I think Mike Loan would be great for New York. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.879 I think his style of coaching would be great for 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.600 the city. It'd be great for Brunton. But I also 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.040 think they got to bring somebody else in there that 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:15.359 can knock down some shots. So Brunson ain't controlling the 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.280 ball so much because I feel it slows the offense 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.679 down when he's doing that in the fourth quarter, and 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.240 sometimes when Anononobe is getting going, or Cat might be 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.200 getting gone, or Bridges might get going. Now Brunton kind 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.240 of comes in and he takes the next four shots 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.239 and it kind of gets everybody out of rhythm. So 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.119 I definitely think they got to bring in another ball 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.560 handler or score or something to help complete it. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:42.520 Hey, what about the name mentioned I Doka, Jason Kidd. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.960 Both of those guys have current jobs. Jay R. Brown 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:53.480 former coach Walk Mike Brown like Luke walking that now. 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.720 I just saw him on somebody. If you with the Cavs, 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:58.240 I saw him somewhere. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.440 New York could tell Luke Walton up on. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.760 The pistols. Yeah, that's why Jammie bicker Staff. 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.200 But you got Bootenholzer who lost the job got a job, 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.480 got fired. You have Vogel who had a job, got 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.520 a job, got fired. Mike Brown got fired after he 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.680 had just signed the contract extension. Budenholder had another four 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.600 years left on his contract. Vogel had another four years 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.720 left on his contract, I mean eight. Matter of fact, it. 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.480 Feels like the last ten years of coaches of the 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:29.440 year got fired. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:30.240 Yep. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:31.920 It got to be the right coach to to deal 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:37.080 with that New York atmosphere. Everybody ain't built flat, definitely. 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.200 H Draymond Green says he was rather losing the first 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.920 round than the NBA finals. Black Sports Online tweeted about 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:56.040 Draymond comments, said, I can call this my Lebron theory, 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:56.600 and you. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.280 Can use it for any elite player. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.919 It is better to go undefeated in the finals then 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.040 and go to a bunch of finals and lose. If 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:04.880 Lebron was pouring on in the finals of the pools 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.080 to four and six, would the perception be different if 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.440 the same thing was really symbol What do you think? 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:15.160 I agree? I want, I want thousand percent agree. Man. 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.639 It's it's that's a tough thing to do, right. You 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:21.320 gotta think about you guys played professional sports. Think about 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.000 all the thing that goes on from on the field 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.280 off the field, right, and to win a championship or 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.120 even to get to the finals playoffs let alone, y'all 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.560 got to be on one accord, you know. So to 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.240 constantly keep getting there, that shows the signs of greatness. 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.040 Whether you keep failing or not, you still keep getting there. 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:44.720 Everybody like to talk about Mike getting there six times 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.439 and him winning the six rings and everything like that, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.200 but he also had a road of trying to get there. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.280 That was a process. Lebron kind of got there a 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.360 little faster. So I agree with him. 0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:00.480 Yeah, because Lebron before and knowing the finals as opposed 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.560 to four and six now, that's still four wins. 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.679 If you have people say le Bron got five rings, 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.040 if you ask me, I count that in season tournament. 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:11.880 Because here's the thing. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.719 Sim Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Lebron 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.800 got four rings in twenty two seasons. 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:18.119 They're gonna say, what do you do in the other 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:24.760 eighteen seasons? Go to the finals? So I get it. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:30.040 It's just like, look, social media and social media has 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:30.480 its place. 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:31.400 It's done a lot of good. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.159 It's made a lot of people famous, it's made a 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:37.320 lot of people wealthy beyond expectations. But I think the 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:40.000 thing is is that now everybody is a general manager, 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:44.280 everybody is a coach, everybody is a player personnel direct 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.119 that everybody is a former NFL player, or former NBA 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:54.880 player or MLB player, and so it gives everybody. Everybody 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.200 has an opinion now, whereas before a lot of these 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:02.680 guys it'll been very injury. If let's just say we started, 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.480 we're gonna start social media in the eighties and. 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:06.760 Everybody could have an opinion. 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.720 When Jordan was getting bounced in the first round, I 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:12.440 wonder how they would take that if he's the best 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:16.520 player and he to go, because they're crying him to 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:18.440 go to nineteen eighty nine they said he's the greatest 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:19.680 players we've ever seen. 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:22.520 With no finals appearances. 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.960 And the crazy thing about that, I just seen something 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:29.200 the other day. I think, what was it NBA did 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:33.119 to deal with NBC in eighty nine or something like that, 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.760 So we didn't even get to see like those first 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.159 couple of years of July. Where's the tape of everybody 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:41.840 talking there like we see highlights, Like we didn't get 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:43.119 to see everything. 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.760 So it's like, no, you didn't see you didn't see 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:46.600 basketball game. 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:48.239 There was not a whole lot of you didn't get 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.840 a child for you to watch basketball during the week. 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:52.520 You watched basketball on Sunday. 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.440 Got you now once the playoffs started, okay, that was 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.840 a different story. But I grew up in the era 0:21:57.840 --> 0:21:59.960 where the games would tape the lay even the NBA Finals, 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:01.600 the playoff with tape the lady, you didn't get an 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:02.720 opportunity to see those. 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:03.200 Wow. 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:08.399 So and when it first started, the first round was 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.520 the best two out of three. You win two games, 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.800 and then you advanced, and then you went to the semifinals, 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.000 and if you won three out of five, the best 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:19.399 of seven wasn't to the conference finals and the NBA Finals. 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:21.760 And it used to be you. 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.120 Got three shots to make two by the free throw line, 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:27.880 so once you got to the bonus, you got three 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.680 shots to make two. Yeah. 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.920 See, I think bron Bron would have dominated in that era. 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.320 It's just like if we look at it, like the 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:41.440 role Lebron had to travel, Right, we're talking about somebody 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.480 that's coming in from high school eighteen eighteen years old, 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.720 all his criticism on him, and this is like when 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.760 the internet is kind of coming into his age, absolutely 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.800 got an opinion on him. Mike didn't necessarily have to 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.160 deal with that type of pressure. Now, Mike did deal 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:59.919 with people outside the hotel rooms waiting. No, I mean 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.639 newspaper articles. But like you just said, with social media today, 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.639 it's one thing. It's a bittersweet thing. Everybody has an opinion, 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:13.320 but everybody opinion is invalidated because they haven't done it right. 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.480 I can't come to you and tell you I think 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.440 you wrong about anything in football. 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.000 I ain't never played in the NFL. Who am I 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:21.600 to tell you? 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:23.639 As a fan, I could give you my opinion, and 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.360 that's what I always try to speak. 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:26.520 From from a fan perspective. 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:27.560 Right when we're. 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.680 Talking about people that did it at a high level, 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.040 sometimes you just got to shut up, you know what 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.200 I mean, and listen to what the greats is seen. 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.479 I mean, it's not very often that an eighteen year 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.000 old gets to come in he's the number one overall 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.240 pick and they're handing the keys to the franchise. They said, okay, 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.159 we're gonna go. We're only gonna go as far as 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.760 you take us. And now he didn't have a whole 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.399 lot of experience. He didn't get an opportunity to go 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.560 to college and learn on a legendary coach. 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.360 He didn't. I mean, think about what he had. 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.840 He came from a single parent home and he bounced around, 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.360 so everything that you see, he's kind of like had 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.440 to had to get it on his own, like tal 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.240 and he hadn't had you know, Uh, he hadn't had 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.360 any missteps for the most part. Yeah, you could say 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:16.160 people like, well, what about what about the decision? Well, 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.919 the Girls and Boys Club got five hundred thousand. That 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.040 wouldn't have missed that exactly because guess what, somebody wanted 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.760 to hear it. I tell you what, if you think 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.520 it's missed that, if he wasn't who he was, tell 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.959 somebody else to have a decision, Yeah, and see how 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:30.639 they get covered. 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.760 Yeah, I'm totally with you. I think, in my opinion, 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.280 bron is the greatest to ever do it. I think 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:42.400 he went up against some of the greatest talent, right 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.840 like Dwight Howard, We're talking about Baby Shack and his prime, Like, 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.639 you gotta go up against that seven games, right, you 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.240 gotta go up against the San Antonio Spurs. 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.280 So he beat the Spurs you. 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:55.840 Know what I mean, Like they had to go up 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:59.840 against the Dallas Mavericks, who was incredible. We may not 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.480 look at them as the most athletic team with them 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.320 as a team, the Dallas Mavericks around that time, they 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.320 were incredible. And then to top it off, Kevin Durant 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:12.240 the Warriors. Yeah, you know what I mean, everything we 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:13.440 had to go up against. 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:15.919 Where would you And that's what I always tell people 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.920 of all the NBA champions where would you rank that 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.200 seventeen eighteen Warriors team? How many teams in history would 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.280 you have over them that. Let's just go back to 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.560 the nineties. When Jordan won his championships. What team did 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:34.760 he face? Was the seventeen eighteen Warriors for the Seattle No? 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:35.960 Was it Utah? 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:36.359 No? 0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.960 Was it Portland? Was it Phoenix? I'm just trying to 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.520 figure out. And so you looking at it, look, I 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.720 mean think about it. On that team you got Steph 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:53.159 and Clay, I mean Stephan Draymond All seventy five team. 0:25:53.520 --> 0:26:01.879 You look at Portland, not Portland, San Antonio, Tim Duncans 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:07.520 All seventy seventy fifth Anniversary team, Kawhi seventy fifth anniversary team. 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.760 Uh mine was not a seventy fifth anniversary guy is 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.200 I don't think so Tony Parker's Tony Parker won. I 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:19.080 don't think Tony Parker won. Yeah, But but they make 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.840 it seem like the the only, the only, the only, 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.160 the only team that I. 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:25.440 Think they should have beat. 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:27.800 But when you go back and look at it, the 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.840 Mavericks swept, see people sweep this out of the rug. 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:35.440 Sim that Mavericks team swept the Lakers team that had 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:36.600 just went back to back. 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.040 I just said, we we forget about that because they 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.800 weren't the most sexy, they wasn't athletic, but that was 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:43.560 a great team. 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:49.840 They swept the Lakers that had just went back to back. 0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:55.040 They had a gentleman's sweep on OKC. 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:58.960 But still, for me, I think that was the only 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:03.080 time that that Lebron has probably been favored and he 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:04.600 didn't win, and. 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:05.080 It's it could have. 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.560 It was a thing I truly believe of him and 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.240 d Wade didn't know who team it was yet, so 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.520 I think that case, I think they was looking for 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.879 each other the lead and kind of who was going 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.240 to take the lead, and it was kind of getting 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:19.600 too late by that time. 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.000 The Mavericks had already won two games. 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:27.480 Right, Adam Silver on the NBA All Star Game next 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.200 season and the Clippers into it. Don't the All Star 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:34.560 Game will feature some form Team USA versus Team World. 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.879 All Star Game now will be in the afternoon instead 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:38.680 of the evening. 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:44.880 You like that change, Sam. 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.959 I don't know. I don't know. 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.840 I feel like All Star Game is it's been a tragedy. 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:49.399 The past few years. 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.480 Oh man, it's been a tragedy. 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.199 And I think when things keep becoming a tragedy and 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.160 you keep trying things and it's not. 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.240 Working, just go back to the original way. 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.040 Just go away. 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.800 But the thing is, though, to them, they don't play anymore, 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.920 see them, I don't want to see no games team 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.280 in the NBA. They scoring two hundred points, Sam, But 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.719 you know now all of them is dunks and threes. 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.080 They ain't playing no defense. 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:16.520 But you know why that is? 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:16.840 Hunh? 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.359 You know, like I know, those weekends ain't about the 0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:21.120 game no more. 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.919 Nah, part of the city it used to be about 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:24.359 the game. 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:26.520 They not coming in there. 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:31.920 Anthony Edwards had about nine events on Saturday, seven, on Friday, three, 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:36.400 on Thursday, a brunch on Sunday before the game. I'm tired, man. 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.240 They got me doing all this. So they got a 0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:43.240 final way to bring the events kind of down, a 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.480 little bit of something to get these players time to 0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.880 kind of enjoy their families, enjoy their week off, and 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.520 show up on Sunday raid to play and play. 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.320 They gotta play. But oh ya, I said this. 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.200 I remember when I when I saw this thing going 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.400 left with the Pro Bowl, I said, they're gonna cancel 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.160 this before you know. Nah man, Now, I said, I'm 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.960 telling you, they not finna keep paying y'all this money 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.000 they paying y'all. 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.720 Oh jo they payed them one hundred thousand just to compete. 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.160 I remember, and we was, oh, Joe, you went shortly 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.120 after I left the league, y'all probably was making fifteen 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:15.360 twenty five tops. 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:16.600 It wasn't that much. 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:18.040 Now they mak it. 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.000 Now you get eighty, you get a one hundred thousand 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.040 if you win, you get fifty seventy five thousand if 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:22.480 you lose. 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.840 Ain't got Now they out there playing touch football. 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.320 Now they've turned it into a flag football, and they 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.760 got all these festivities where you know, you try to 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:31.600 hit the bulls eye and you hit a movie like 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:32.040 come on. 0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.760 I was thinking back back then when we played on 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.800 I mean everything, it was about competing and it was competitive. 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.320 Maybe might have been an All Star game, it might 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.640 have been a Pro Bowl where you know those that 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.440 were selected. But when it was time to play man, hey, 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.640 Sam Boy, it was real. You know when Kobe and 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.480 them boy and then shock them boys when they made 0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.800 off when it was they had All Star game, Oh 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.400 they was finna play. 0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:57.760 I feel like too. 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.880 It was a different level of focus in your time 0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.520 because it wasn't so many distractions, so everybody was kind 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.120 of like zoned in on their craft, zoned in on 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.040 what it is they did. So when they came to 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:13.080 play with the OCHO right when Charles Woodson got a guard, Oho, 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:14.800 you want to prove his point out there? 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:16.920 And I tried to prove mine. 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.040 Yeah, Now, I TOLDO, I said, look, when I went 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.480 across that water, I was looking to light somebody asked 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:24.800 up one on walk if I didn't want you to 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.760 think you get back to the mainland and could cover me. 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:28.840 You couldn't come me across the water. You can't come 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:30.480 me on the mainland. So don't you come with with 0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.960 that bull drive NOWA that's but I was just like 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.680 and and and and and the thing is like you said, 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.560 now it's a layup or three boy shot. 0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:41.800 Hey. 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.120 Oh, but I said, bro y'all, y'all quit the hollow. Jordan, 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.720 y'all quit the haller. Kobe, y'all don't say nothing about it. 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.720 When it comes to the All Star Game, y'all don't 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.480 mention Kobe or Jordan. But y'all quick, that's all about 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.720 They was killers. Yeah, okay, when y'all goosed to be 0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.280 turning some killers of the doll Star Game. 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.960 Yeah, I think it's just a different time now. 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:01.280 Unk. 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:02.720 Like, Man, I've seen this. 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:07.840 Shout out to Jason Crow Junior, a young player coming 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.960 up out here in California. I went to one of 0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:12.959 his games, and I've seen a few players and they 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.000 was just talking and one of these kids was like, 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:16.920 as long as I get. 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.240 An nil deal, I don't even work worry about going 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:19.680 to NBA. 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:25.760 Yeah, And I was like, man, like, the competitive nature 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.680 of just grinding and wanting to achieve your goal and 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.760 that process is gone now because these kids getting so 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.360 much money. You go to some of these colleges, the 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.320 parking lot look like a Ben's dealership, like it does. 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:39.120 It's different. 0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.400 It ain't it, ain't no more, ain't no more scat pass, 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.960 no hell cast and all the track halts, them jokes 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.720 got ferrari, they got lamboles, they got colored in there. 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:48.200 Yep. 0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:53.320 I'm like Daniel, listen, Sam, that's a that's a short dream. 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.880 You short changing yourself. The big dream, the big money. 0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.960 I mean it's a n I l A that's gonna do. 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.080 That's good money. That hey, that hold yo, I'm trying 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:05.120 to get the fifty set up. 0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.200 There got the mill until you see everybody else you 0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.960 played with getting two hundred fifty million and you talking 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.760 about some man. 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.920 She speaking speaking of that quick question for both of you. 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.400 What's something from you guys's childhood that fueled you'll work 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:20.680 as it. 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.680 I ain't have no running water, that'll do it. 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.080 Going outside with the mosquitoes biting you, and you gotta 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.360 take raid and spread to keep the mosquitoes off you, 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:34.880 and you gotta put a you gotta put an overcoat 0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.400 on to go go out in the woods. That a 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.160 motivation you. You ain't got no indoor plumbing, you ain't 0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.520 got no running water, you ain't got no air condition. 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.120 That a motivation you? 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.680 You? I mean you go like a warehouse and they 0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.440 got seamen floors. That's what we had. That a motivation. 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.000 You got a tin roof and you can look up 0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:57.080 and you can see the sun. That a motivation. Sometimes 0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:01.000 an empty stomach, it's all the motivation you need. 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.760 I had kids early, bro, I had kids early, and 0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.240 obviously my dream. My dream was to play in the NFL. 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.440 And I put in too much work as a little shorty, 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:11.480 as a legit. 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.280 I had to make it. I told myself, I'm gonna 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:14.840 make it to the league. 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.200 I remember telling coaches in high school, remember telling teachers 0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.080 I was gonna make it. They told me I was never. 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.120 I never was gonna mouthed nothing. I needed that he 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:24.520 gave me and gave me a little chip, So I'm 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.120 gonna make it. Obviously, and having kids early shady, I 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:28.120 got to take care of these kids. 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.080 He had no choice. And I wanted to be good 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.760 at my craft. I wanted to be good. I didn't 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:34.480 need the best. 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.960 But whenever I left the game, people gonna say, boy, 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.480 he was one of the one of the best to 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:40.040 ever played. 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.520 That that was that was motivating. 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:49.880 An empty stomach and an empty wallet. What more motivation 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:50.480 you need? 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:51.920 With fact? 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:53.360 And they ain't need somebody else too. 0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:59.400 You know what you need? That's it. Your Grandma's like 0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:03.120 a hey boy, ain't got no lights. I ain't got 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.160 no phone, the phone off because you can't pay a 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.000 fifty dollar phone bill and they ain't got no lights. 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:09.680 So you know you gotta you gotta. 0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.200 My grandma gotta jug some stuff around and you gotta 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.279 make it do until she can come up till the 0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:18.920 next payday. Yeah, oh yeah, all right, son, you got 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:20.239 to go go out there and get some ads because 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:21.520 we ain't got no eggs. So now we got to 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.279 go out there and get eggs. You gotta find agg 0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:24.359 you got to run the gens off. 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.120 The eggs man. 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.440 You know that I hate sem and it's people that 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.160 you know it needs to be done right, but you're 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.600 with your friends to do it. Like there's no self motivation. 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.799 You can't get nothing done unless somebody else is doing 0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:45.640 it with you. But that means you fooling yourself, you fully. 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.320 And I used to I used to have that same problem. 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.480 I used to have that same problem because I was 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.920 afraid of feeling, and I was afraid of feeling by myself. 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:55.600 So I was like, I either want to win with 0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:59.000 somebody or we fail together. And one thing I had 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.840 to learn is like that don't bless me, you know 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.320 what I'm saying. So you might bring in the wrong person. 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.360 You might have the wrong person that you're trying to 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.840 walk into a situation that he don't belong in. 0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:10.480 And it's like, God ain't. 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.720 Gonna grant you what you looking for because you bringing 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.160 you bringing damaged goods to the table of what I'm 0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.920 trying to set for you. So I had to I 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.800 had to learn how to develop that confidence for myself 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.719 of just sitting in that studio writing and being in 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.160 this room and you know, looking at my son in 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.160 the face like I'm doing it for you, bro, I'm 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.239 not doing it too because I'm afraid no more or 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.279 bringing all these people with me for validation because I'm 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.960 afraid of what might happen if they're not there. Like now, 0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:41.359 you got to get up and go do it. If 0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.760 you failed, just fall forward and get up and keep going. 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.759 Yeah, I remember happening when I had dreams about being 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.680 something and it wasn't a whole lot of people in 0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.239 my dream. I'm like, well, damn, I guess he tried 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.640 to tell me something m I wasn't supposed to bring 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:55.640 a whole lot of people with me. 0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.320 M oh Man. 0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.960 Even even the biggest planes can only carry so much 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:08.520 of a load. Even the biggest planes, oh Joe, even 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:12.320 with the biggest cargo planes, there's only they can only 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:13.400 carry so much. 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.080 Oh, that's so that's so true. 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:18.520 My mom. 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.640 My mom says something to me the other day to 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:23.719 stick with me. I was telling her she was trying 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.600 to introduce me to somebody, and I was like, my 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.240 own't even like meeting too many people no more, because 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.120 they come around with these expectations and they think you're 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.239 supposed to do something. And I remember wanting to be 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.279 in this space and be like, when I get my shot, 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.239 I'm never gonna be mean or turn people down. 0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.720 I'm gonna take every picture. But people take that for granted. 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.719 And my mom says, I was like, it's hard for 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.880 me to get along with people to now I feel 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.279 like they don't understand me. And my mom said, uh, 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:54.719 she said, she said, when you growing, she said, it's 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.640 not that people don't love you. When you're growing, you 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:03.080 hard to understand. Right, If someone hasn't tried to grow, 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.879 you're going to always be hard to understand because they 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.400 stuck at where they at and you're trying to go 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.000 somewhere else, and they may see that as all you changing, 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.839 and because you not adopting the ideologies they have now, 0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:18.399 you feel like they feel like you devalue them when 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.120 it's just like, nah, bro, it might be a better 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.600 way we could grow together. So that's something I had 0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:23.440 to learn right there. 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.360 Uh, it's tough. 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.200 It's tough because you know, a lot of times you 0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.359 want to the people that were around when you didn't 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:34.919 have anything. But a lot of times those people their 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.680 minds doesn't grow like yours grow. They think just because 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.480 they're around, they're supposed to always be around. But at 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.840 some point in time you can look. I understand, but 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.280 there has to be value that comes along with something. 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.319 The New Orleans Pelicans will continue to move forward with 0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.000 Zion Williamson as the face of their franchise. Per Joe Dubars, 0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.960 I've had some real artist conversations with him, some real 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.439 direct and honest conversations. We're going forward with Zion. He's 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.719 going to continue to be the focal point as we 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:06.560 go forward. 0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:15.360 Sim Since Zion and Milwaukee, man, you gotta you gotta 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.319 get it. Not for your honest let him go play 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.480 with you, but you gotta get him out of New Orleans. 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.520 You got all that good food out there. You gotta 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.200 what's that place? Dragons? 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.320 They got that, the big oysters over there. You got. 0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.080 The crab, the crab. 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.640 Oh my god, you got all that good food. Man, 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.360 get Zion where they got vegan options. 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:40.160 You gotta get him. 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.960 You gotta get him out of New Orleans immediately. I 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.959 think the run is done. I think that the time 0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:48.919 has come for them to kind of blow this thing 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:49.920 up and let him move on. 0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:51.000 It's over with. 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:52.200 Damn. 0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.680 Oh Joe, Hey, you know, we we talked about Zion 0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.040 in length, you know, for a very long time now, 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:01.399 and he hasn't spoken at all. 0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:04.760 You know, We've all had our opinion. 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:09.560 Obviously. I want to see him playball. Whether it's New Orleans, 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:10.840 I don't care. I don't care where it is. I 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:12.600 just want to see him on the court because I 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.439 know what he can do once he's out there, when 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:18.719 he's healthy. Whether whether it be New Orleans, I'm not 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.040 sure what's gonna happen. You know how this business works, 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.760 and mostly the players have all the levers. So unless 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:25.759 he says he doesn't want to be there. He's going 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.799 to be a Pelican. If he's going to be there, 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.360 I just want to see him on the court. Pro 0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.480 that's it. 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.760 It's hard to give up a superstar, trade a superstar 0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:36.520 unless you're going to get one back in return. 0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.040 And that's why the star, he's a star. I'll be 0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:41.759 a star player. 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.279 I mean, it looked we had they like, damn, we 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.480 had a D, we lost a D and the next 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:47.520 year we get Zion. 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.200 Ain't nobody, ain't no stars coming to New Orleans. 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.200 And so that's why when these small market team when 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.560 they when they land one of these big fish, they 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:57.960 try to hold on to him as long as they 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.360 possibly can. That's why Milwaukee bending over backwards, trying to 0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.000 make sure, what do you need you need ten Harley 0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.759 Davidson's we'll get them for you. What do you what 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.879 do you need? You need an Airbnb and and and 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:14.320 and and and believe we'll get it for you. Because 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.279 think about it, you go Kareem and then Kareem leaves. 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.680 I think in like seventy six, seventy five, seventy six, 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:27.640 it's thirty years before you get Yannis. So it's not 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.680 You're not La. You got Will, you got Jared West, 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.840 you got el Jim Baylor, you got Kareem, you got Magic, 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.000 you got James Worthy, you got Kobe, you got Shot, 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.920 you got Lebron, you got a d Now you got Luca. 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:43.640 It don't work like that for it don't work like 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:44.600 that for everybody, see elf. 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:49.640 Yeah, So when I get a guy, I'm gonna do 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:50.799 everything I possibly can. 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.160 So Cleveland got Lebron. They a. 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.919 You want to build us? You want you to be Okay, 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.120 we'll build our trainshial close to where you living Afrod Okay, cool, 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:08.520 no problem. You want access, no problem. You want your 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:12.040 mama to sit here, no problem? Because what's the likelihood 0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.400 of you ever getting another Lebron James? If you Cleveland. 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.680 So with that being said, you move heavy and earth 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.279 and you do everything you can to make sure they're happy. Look, 0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:27.960 I agree with you, o, y'all. I just wanted to 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.399 be healthy. I wanted to be healthy for two years 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.840 in a row because I believe he can turn the corner. 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:37.560 Because Aillan can't be more than what twenty five, yeah, 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:38.919 twenty four, twenty five. 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.000 He's some He's somewhere around there. Somewhere. 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:47.320 But I'm telling you, Unk, in order to keep them healthy, 0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:48.960 you gotta get them out of New Orleans. 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:49.240 Man. 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.839 You gotta get them some vegan options. We gotta get 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.120 them some Asai bowls. We gotta get them healthy out there, Unk, Like, 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:56.840 we all want to see them ball, we want to 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.680 see them play, but it's always been a dilemma and 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:01.560 they just they can't seem to get it together. 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:06.600 Well, good luck with that, Joe, dude. Look, Joe Dubars 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.239 has been around the game. He been I mean, he's 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.759 been around the game forty plus years. He's played with 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.439 some great players. He put some teams together, and so 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:26.759 we'll see what he can do. Euro Cup champion Tel 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.200 Aviv are expecting to make Russell Westbrook an offer never 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:35.200 before seen in European basketball. Should russ accept the money 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.560 or stay? Basically, he's gonna be on a mid level 0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:43.080 or a minimum contract. O Joe, sim does he take 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.160 the big dollars to go overseas or does he stay 0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:46.520 right here? 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.120 You say big dollars? How much are you talking? 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.160 I mean, I mean, in order to make it make sense, 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:58.399 it's probably gonna need to be twelve fifteen millis. 0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:02.440 Not well considered he make four five million in the NBA. 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:07.320 Hell no, absolutely not, not for someone of his caliber. 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.839 What's the most money somebody's made the European basketball? Can 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.120 we find that we need to get We need a 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.120 AI anybody want to advertise so we can just pull 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:17.680 that up and it just pop up on my screen. 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:25.640 So no, I think I don't think Russ need the money. Man, 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.440 you know, Russ is invested in a lot of. 0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:29.080 Don't need the money. 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.520 Yeah, I don't think he'll go out there and play 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:32.440 for the money. 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:34.640 And then he don't want to be away from his family. 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.600 He ain't move with his family overseas. 0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.279 I think it's white the name. He got kids, he 0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.200 got twins, and that not he going. 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:47.960 Uh, absolutely not makes no sense. And they couldn't offerim. 0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:49.319 They couldn't offer him enough. 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.920 Oh hell now, the most money anybody's ever made in 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:54.399 Europe is four million dollars a year. 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.279 It's over that. They might as well. 0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:58.560 They might as well get that to me. 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:01.480 Yuh, look, get up to me. 0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:03.360 I go out there, give them twelve or ten. 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:04.359 You know what I'm saying. 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:05.640 I give him am. 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.600 Hey, you know it can get crazy. Now if the 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:15.520 Saudi's had a league. Now they oh like they like, 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.600 they got like they got they could pull you, they 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.440 could pull some NBA players and fire of there. 0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:24.960 Oh yeah you see what Renald over getting man? Please 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.359 two hundred million a year? Hey yeah, Lebron to leave 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:29.560 for two hundred million a year. 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.600 A year, that's ridiculous. 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.600 Yeah, I going over there, Hey, going over there for 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.400 a quick for five. 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:42.439 Years there are here, unc I ain't never coming back. 0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:48.680 Yeah, a matter of fact, getting me with no tax 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.000 I don't think. I don't think. You probably don't play 0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:53.920 taxes on it. And they gave a jet and they 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.320 gave him uh uh, what's it called, like a car everything? 0:44:57.719 --> 0:44:58.640 Yeah, they gave a house. 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:03.640 Yeah, and that money over the different man, they got it. 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:06.960 They got it, big money. 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:12.200 Sam. But check this out. Apparently, Oh Joe was in 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.000 the gym today and he was tossing around some one twenties. 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.480 Apparently we got video evidence we got here. 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:24.800 Hey, I'm strong. 0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:28.200 I'm just trying to figure out. I don't see no 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:29.839 sing I got we got to zoom in. We gotta 0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:30.960 see it the one twenty because. 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.160 Them could be damn them damn weights bigger than my 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:33.839 damn chest. 0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:44.000 Somebody you know what big Yeah, there was some big weights. Okay, 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.320 oh yeah, yeah, I'm strong now, I'm strong. 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:47.240 I just like this. 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:58.200 For it's a it's a life finding. No, we don't 0:45:58.200 --> 0:45:59.239 do anything less than sick. 0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:04.279 We don't do anything when I go in there tomorrow, right, 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.000 Tomorrow's legs for me, right, but Sam, just for him, 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:08.120 I want to show him. 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:09.080 I saw Aaron. 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.800 Donald doing one thirties, right, so I'm like, okay, Aaron don' 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:13.640 doing on thirties. I know I could do one twenties. 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:15.880 I could do five. So tomorrow I'm gonna go to 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.120 one forties. I'm gonna do a set while I'm fresh. 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:21.440 You ain't gonna do nothing to me. 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.640 You told me I couldn't do one twenties and I 0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.400 just gave you five right there. But he did it 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:28.400 on the incline, do the in class. 0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:29.520 This is mean. 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.040 Look what you mean? 0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:31.920 What the difference? 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:33.880 It's me? It's me. 0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:34.560 I could do that. 0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:34.799 Man. 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:36.480 You keep telling me what I can't do, and I 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:40.000 keep showing you I could do it. You told hey, Sam, 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.319 you're gonna see me tomorrow, right. I'm opposing Tomorrow's leg day. 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.480 But I just want to show un I could do 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.399 one forties and I'm gonna do it on inclan because 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:48.360 he just told me I couldn't. 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.040 He He sounded like my teachers in high school. They 0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.840 told me. Now I'm on nightcap. 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:59.759 I mean, there it is. 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:01.600 He said, he go do it tomorrow. 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:04.320 I would let it. I would let him have it. 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:04.920 He gonna catch me. 0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:06.799 I'm gonna sneak in the Florida one day and catch 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.080 him in the gym. Let everybody see what I for. 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.120 What they do? It real bad? 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.560 What you what you're putting up in there? What you're 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:13.920 looking like? 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:15.439 Nothing? 0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:16.400 Nothing? 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:18.719 We didn't Listen, we live the same amount of weight. 0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.560 And no, we're about the same size right now, but 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:28.479 we live the same amount of weight. Uh Sam, Still 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.160 right Sam? Right now, I lost I lost about twenty pounds. 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:32.759 They got a little something going on right now. But 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:34.759 give it, give it, give it, give it. Give me 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.440 a little bit of time. I'll get past that. I 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.040 deal with you downed road. 0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.000 Listen, you done lost weight and I'm gaining weight. But 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:44.400 it's cool, That's okay. 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:46.960 I still I probably still could do those one twenties. 0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.040 I ain't at the one fifties like I used to be. 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.280 But give me, give me fifties. 0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.800 You do one fifties, Okay, then I do one fifties tomorrow, 0:47:55.920 --> 0:48:02.400 just to show you where I'm at. Man, you really listen, hey, 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.239 seem you know not on no funny ship. You could 0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.960 see you can see the frame. Man, I'm sculpting like 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:09.680 a like a Greek, like a Greek god. 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:10.000 Man. 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.920 Good, you really can't see it. And you know my 0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:14.279 girl be tripping by having my. 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.640 Shirt Offso now I thought you. I thought you had 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.520 what you call him night cap tattooed on your chest. 0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:19.239 Oh you got to. 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:27.840 Hooeyut bad damn you? I was he really liked that 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.960 got tattoo. Yeah, hey, listen, I'm ready. I'm ready for 0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:32.920 the summer, man, I said, when the summer start. 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.799 Summers June twenty, June twenty first, twenty second official a. 0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:44.160 Boy from what you stopped. 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:46.280 Summers. 0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.080 Here, I see some nice soft legs today. Some's here 0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:56.280 you see it? What some nice soft legs somesion, ain't 0:48:56.800 --> 0:49:00.239 I appreciate. I appreciate y'all for having me. Man, big 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.919 fan of the show, as y'all already know. Love, We're 0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.920 going up tomorrow for the NBA Finals. Shout out to 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.239 the Payoffs. Scouts Big Watch party tomorrow. Love what y'all 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:12.160 doing here at Nightcap. Man, appreciate you, Oh appreciate you. 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.440 Y'all keep killing, Tell them where we can find you. 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.759 What are you on our I g we got a Facebook? 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:19.600 You got what you two? What you got going on? 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:21.479 Tell us where we can find you at the real 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.279 symbol on all platforms that's th h E R e 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.600 A L S y n b A. You can find 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:30.640 that amongst all socials. Men, and keep support Nightcap because 0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:32.840 we like to do something before to something. 0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:35.160 That's what I'm talking about, Sam. We appreciate that. 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:37.520 Man, all the best, continued success when you get some 0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:39.520 time stop back by gearing for us. 0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:44.399 Definitely will appreciate y'all. 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:47.200 All right, guys, Oh Joe, we're gonna get you out 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:48.799 of here on this one, and that's time for our 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.040 final seven of the evening. 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.960 It's time for Q and eight. Hey gin. 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:59.960 Un thing but nice and clean and nice and slow too. 0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.319 Quentin Mobley said, Oh Joe was having a season with 0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.800 them one twenty dumb bells today that ball was shaking 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.360 worse than a woman in the area. Twenty nine hashtag 0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.160 muchee him talking. They making jokes, but I wasn't shaking. 0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:14.120 I was nice and slow and perfect form. 0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:15.480 Shake it. 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.279 I don't think you know it's funny. I think people 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:25.440 don't really understand how heavy that is. Huh. I mean 0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.120 you you see it all the time, You've done it 0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:27.560 all the time. 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.839 But I think people that go to the Cancil gym 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.000 where they don't even have one hundred and twenty pounds dumb. 0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:34.879 Bells, I don't think they understand how heavy that is. 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:36.920 I'm really like that. 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:38.120 I told you if she. 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:41.080 Ain't won eighty Uh, doctor Frankie L. 0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:44.760 Bell, behave fam What's one thing today players do better 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.879 than your era, And what's one thing they'll never touch 0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:49.800 from your generation? 0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:51.680 That part talent? 0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:57.839 That yeah, it's called it's called technology. 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:01.399 Show what happens. 0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.799 They got better die, they got better training, they got 0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:06.480 a better they got they got they started from a 0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:12.879 better foundation. I do think we have a better appreciation, 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.959 but I ain't finn to see them say, oh, look, 0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:20.839 there are certain players that were talented, but I'm talking 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:25.680 about overall the talent in all sports. Because they got 0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:30.160 better training, they got better nutrition, they got better technology. 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:32.480 Just the way it is. 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.080 I mean, think about how Look. Think about when Tiger 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:38.799 Tiger nineteen ninety seven burst on the scene. Think about 0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.320 how far he was hitting the golf ball. He's the 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:43.759 only one they could do it. Now they got twenty ball, 0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:45.920 twenty guys, thirty guys. They can hit the golf ball 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:52.799 as far as Tiger. Look at the guys when we 0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:56.200 were in Awe the way Reggie Miller and Larry Bird 0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:58.839 and Mark Christ them guys shot the ball. 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.759 Man they got got they got free folk. Guy of 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.080 a team that I shoot the cut off the ball. 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:11.320 It is what it is, Oh Joe, I accepted. 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:15.400 I don't know if you know. Man, my generation we 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:18.680 did with did, but they got better technology. Now they 0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.640 got more. It's called advancement. You know how I know. 0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.960 Look at medicine. They don't do surgery the same way. 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.680 Oh Joe, ain't no guy missing. Your career is not 0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.960 over when you have ACL Your career is not over 0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:34.839 when you have the killes injury. 0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:38.279 I mean stuff that used to people were done. Now 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:38.960 guys come back. 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:42.080 Kevin. Look at Kevin Durrad. If somebody didn't tell you, 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:45.360 you wouldn't know. Kevin Durant came came up. The Achilles 0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:53.760 injury Lady Red finally back, Uh, Lady Rad, Hey, guys, 0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:54.759 love and Shallon's tea. 0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.120 Who's your favorite Simpson character? Mine is Ralphy? 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:10.359 Who Quo Bark Yeah, Holmer Bark Leaf, Marge. 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:12.680 You can't name all of them. We say who's your 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:13.279 favorite one? 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:16.200 But I'm just saying. Ashley was asking me, do I 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:20.040 know characters? Look? 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:24.120 I like the Simpsons, American Dads? What about South Park? 0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:27.480 Stewie give me, give me Stewie, give me Stewie. 0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:30.240 Story. 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:34.359 Funny you watch South Park? I watched a little bit 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:36.200 of You have a favorite character? You don't know most 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:36.760 of them? 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:39.279 I don't really know the care I used to watch 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:40.920 what what's the one that come on m t V? 0:53:41.280 --> 0:54:00.879 Beavers and Bad? So if I had to say Holmer Man, 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:05.879 the Simpsons been, Oh damn the forty they was coming 0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:07.000 on because. 0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:09.280 Funny and for some reason, the Simpsons are very good 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:15.239 at predicting history. But they they're close to it every time. 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:22.160 There ain't no goddamn coincidence every time. Nope, you're right, 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.200 here's her said Uncle Ocho. You were both leaders in 0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.719 your locker room. How would you have handled the Dolphins 0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:32.000 bullying scandal? If that would have happened in your locker 0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:33.759 rooms in devil Baltimore, Cincinnati. 0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:37.959 Well, first of all, that would have never happened. Ain't nobody. 0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:41.160 Ain't nobody gonna be saying all that? What what happened? 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:45.440 They said it wasn't bullying, but there was some racial 0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:49.279 appitet being being thrown around in the locker room, not 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.439 to the extent of it. I don't know. I wasn't there, 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:53.560 but that ain't what we did. 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:55.279 We're talking about bullying, win, I know. 0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:01.800 I guess a Richard Richard, Yeah, needle and and and. 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:05.000 Madam bully, you've grown ass man man in the NFL, 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:07.799 you three hundred some pounds, talk about somebody book get 0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:08.480 your ass. 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:11.480 Yeah, wouldn't do that. 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.000 But even if it wasn't bullying and wing'na, we ain't 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:18.520 gonna be hurling no racial lepodas. 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:23.040 I don't remember that part. Okay, my bad mm hmm Lillie. 0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:28.799 Well, look, holy they got it resolved. I mean, look, 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.359 our locker room was harmonious. Did did guys right there? 0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:36.840 But the fall over you know, they fall in the 0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:38.960 locker room. Damn training cap. We had to get Tracy. 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.239 You know, hey, you say the wrong thing or you 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:45.560 know something. You know. Hey, look, I think sometimes don't 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:48.160 your people think because you make X amount of dollars 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.960 that some of the same things that will set somebody 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:53.320 off that doesn't make money. 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:58.560 We'll set the person off that make money. And I'll tell. 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:02.640 You, guys ain't gonna let there's a certain level. 0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:04.560 I don't care how big you are, how old you are. 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:09.320 Certain guy ain't gonna just let you blatantly disrespect them, 0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:11.560 because no matter where you are, the number one currency 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:21.320 is respect. So Casey Taylor, start, Bench, cutt Duce mcauster, 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:25.839 Wark done, Brian m Brian Westbrook, this is for you. 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:29.479 Uh so ojoe, you got Duce mccollus to war. 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:33.560 He said, he said, no, no, no, this is no 0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:37.600 he said for you. I got Algiae, Crumpler, random, McMichael, 0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:42.480 Chris Cooley. So I got the tight end, you got 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.480 the running backs. You want me to go first? 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:45.400 Yeah'm gonna go first. 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:48.680 You want me to go first, and you're going first. 0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:56.200 I'm going first. Okay, I'll take you. I'll start Algia 0:56:56.239 --> 0:57:08.040 crumpler six and one hand, half a dozen the other. 0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:16.280 I guess i'd go McMichael, bench chairman and cut Cooley. 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:17.760 But you can go either. 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:22.080 I mean, I mean, I probably should start Bitch Cooley 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:24.320 and uh Randy McMichael. 0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:27.360 But I'll go I'll go Algaie Randy or Cooley. 0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:30.280 So I got Duce McAllister, walk Done and. 0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:38.320 Brian west Oh my god, Nah, it's my start is 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:42.120 out of Brian Westbrook and and work Done. 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:44.920 I just I'm trying to figure out which one. 0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:50.640 Because Brian west very simple, egregrated to say the same thing, 0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.040 very similar guy who was a little bit more dynamic. 0:57:56.200 --> 0:57:59.000 Brian Westbrook was nice. Walk Done was nice as well. 0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:01.720 They both laid the same and can catch the ball 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:03.720 out the backfield. 0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:05.760 Mccallouson was a big back. 0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:09.520 Uh huh, yeah, he is. 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:13.640 A big boy. I wonder who had the better career 0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.080 at UH at Warwick. 0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:19.520 And that's because you know, Warrick had started at Tampa 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:20.760 in Atlanta. 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.560 I remember Dan, that's a good one. 0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:29.680 Well give us a good ass. 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.520 You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna go with. I'm 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:34.480 gonna go with Warck Done soon before what he does 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:39.240 in the community. I'm gonna start war work done a 0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.040 bench at my bench Westbrook, and I love I love 0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:44.040 du That's my boy, my new Orleans Saint Dogg. 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:46.360 I'm gonna cut deuce. 0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:52.040 Damn Circase said, my guys, should Michael Parkson's plays sit 0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:55.360 out until he gets his contract? Well, look, he's at 0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:57.200 ot As. I don't know if he's doing it. I 0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.040 don't know if he's like participating, but I know he 0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.400 shows up. He's getting his work out in, probably doing 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:03.600 his conditioning, but he probably not doing anything on the field. 0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:06.000 I think they're gonna get something done before he goes. 0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:06.840 Uh. 0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:11.680 He keeps telling them it is a David Muga letter. 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:16.720 Uh is his agent. Jerry is trying to get it. 0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:19.040 You know, Hey, I cant talk to michaelh blah blah blah. 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.880 No you didn't you But he didn't do all this stuff. 0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:25.480 He didn't do this with with that. He didn't try 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:27.720 to go to Dak say dad, let's work this contract out. 0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:29.360 He went through Todd Pratt. 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.480 But he also also what he did is he waited 0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:32.360 to the last minute. 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:37.120 But I'm saying he trying to circumvent like he gonna 0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:40.520 He didn't do that with Tony Romo. He didn't say, hey, Romo, 0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:42.080 now all of a sudden he want to do that 0:59:42.400 --> 0:59:44.200 about it is Mike ain't falling for it. If you 0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:47.720 know Mike. No, he didn't do that with Mike. He 0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:49.560 didn't do that with Mike. He didn't do that with Emmy. 0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:51.400 He didn't do that with Troy. He didn't do that 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:53.400 with Time. I'm trying to figure out now why he's 0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:53.960 trying to do this. 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.160 If you know Michael personally, he ain't falling for that. 0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:00.720 He's not falling for that now. 1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:06.640 Aaron Owens, can I get my birthday shout out? Is 1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:12.000 my twenty ninth birthday? Aaron, Happy twenty ninth. Hopefully you 1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:14.040 did so. 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