1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: The pass cornerback. J C. Horn went out from Pro 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Football Focus of their top ten cornerback rankings. This is 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: what happens when you let nerds who never touched the 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: field feel like they no ball man. Pro Football Focus 6 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: rank him twenty fifth in the NFL said Horn is talented, 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: but it's struggled with injuries in the NFL, despite being 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: the league's second highest pad corner. Horn ranks twenty third 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: in Pro Football Focus at advanced coverage grade over the 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: last three seasons and twenty third in standard PFF coverage 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: grade of seventy nine point six across the past two 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: sauss Gardner's won, Pat ser Taddy's two, Trent McDuffie is three, 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson, Darryl Stanley Jr. 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: It's five. 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: DJ Reid is six, Marlon Humphrey is seven, Kristin Benfred 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: is eight, jah Ere Alexander is nine, Denzel Ward is ten. 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: In fact, let me let me tell you something. 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 5: The fact that you know this list isn't correct, the 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 5: fact that Denzel Ward is all the way at ten. 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: But then okay, let me ask you this, Oh Joe, 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: who you taking off this list and putting jac Horn 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: in front of what number. 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: Wait, see I needed I can't. I can't see that 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 4: from me, Run me, run me the first team real. 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: Quick assaults gone. 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 4: There's one pass trip flip, but go ahead, okay. 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: Trip. 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: McDuffie is three, Kansas City, Jalen Johnson Barris four, Darryl 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Stingley Jr. Tight Texans five. DJ Reed he's with the Lions, Knight. 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, he's with the Jets. Last year, 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 2: he's six, Marlon Humphrey, Baltimore Ravens seven, Kristin Bedford, Buffalo Bills, 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: Hey y'ah here, Alexander nine, Green bay Denzel Ward ten. 33 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: Now people on that list who you taking off and 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: putting them on. 35 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 4: I mean they disrespect. I've watched everybody. I watched everybody 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: who said play. 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 5: And I'm not talking about just watching them on Sunday 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 5: them talking about I've seen film of them actually in 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: practicing what they've done, and I've seen the game film. 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: Now DJ Reid, I don't know much about. I don't 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: know much about DJ Reid. I'm gonna be honest. I 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 5: haven't seen him play. I haven't watched him. So if 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 5: I was to take anybody off it'll be DJ Reid. 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 5: Excuse me, I mean, no disrespecting Young Bull. I'm sure 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 5: Young Bull is good because he's on there. 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: For a reason. But I know and I've seen J C. 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: Horn play yeah consistently. 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 6: I'm a big Stanley fan man Hey Stingy the real 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 6: deal way Stanley fann Man. 50 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: I love. 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 7: I love the way the way you play. 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 6: You know, he reminds me of like well football used 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 6: to be when I was in there watching it with 54 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 6: my grandpa as a kid. 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 7: I love his in it you had to bring. 56 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 6: But honestly, when he come to these lists, sometimes I'll 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 6: be trying to understand what's the criteria with some of 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 6: these things, Like what are they coming up with? Because 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 6: sometimes it felt like they picked somebody because they got 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 6: a bigger following on social media or something. 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 7: It ain't got nothing to do with they ned, So. 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 6: I'll be trying to figure out where where does this 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 6: stuff come from? 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: I agree with you, O Joe. I think Pastor Tan 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: for me, is the best corn in football. 66 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: Uh. Stingley obviously had a magnificent season. 67 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie, he's never made an All Pro team, don't 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: I think he's made one? 69 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: Let me take that back. 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: I think he's made one, but I don't think he's 71 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: ever made a Pro Bowl. Uh. He's sensational, especially in 72 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: the slot. Sauce, we know what saut Field. Sauce was 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: a defensive Rookie of the Year. All these guys are phenomenal. 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: We know Marlon Humphrey is not as its not what 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: he was was on the outside. But in that slot. Yeah, 76 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: Beffert really came into his own last year. We know 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: y'all here what he is, what he represents at Denzel, 78 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: a fluid, smooth transition. 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 5: Looks really honestly, I mean no disrespect what Denzel. Denzel 80 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: is top five right now. I'm talking about in the 81 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 5: entirety of the league. You know, forget this list. 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: I understand. 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 7: I think he top five, oh chart. 84 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 5: Hey, when we talk about a technique merchant, I'm talking 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 5: about Okay, technive, it don't matter, it don't matter who 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 5: he playing. Well, he can party, and he's switching up 87 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 5: based on who he playing against, too. He gonna play 88 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 5: everybody different. So I'm sitting there watching him depending on Okay, 89 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: let's say when they play the Bengals fences the way 90 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 5: he played T Higgins, he played Chase different and I'm 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 5: sitting here watching this man I'm talking about it's like art. 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 5: It's like watching art because he had a different post 93 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 5: depending on who it is every single time. Then the 94 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 5: naked eye, the casual fan can't see it, but I'm 95 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 5: looking at it. I'm like, what the and I'm in 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: to my to me, hey, I'm him like Seim, I'm 97 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 5: looking like but damn. The defensive coordinatoring in Cleveland and 98 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 5: Cleveland give him that much freedom to be able to 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 5: do stuff like that. Normally, when you get out there 100 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 5: and lineup, you line up the same way the same 101 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 5: time based on the coverage, the coverage of the defense 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 5: that's called. 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 6: Now, what you like, how you think you would have 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 6: reacted if he would have been guarding you? What you 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 6: would have did too? 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: I would have turned that twenty one to twelve. 107 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: With me. 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 5: I respect Hey, listen, I told I forgot where was at. 109 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 5: Might have been Super Bowl or something, or I sat 110 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: there and told him. I told him about plays. 111 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 4: He did though. 112 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: He is a tremendous man, the man corner boy, especially him, Bump. 113 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 5: I talk about technical signing when the ball is now. 114 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 5: He never paned man. He played up all your elite 115 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 5: ball skills him and stingy, but got some of the 116 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: best ball skills along with certain I've ever seen brouh. 117 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 6: No, That's why I like Stanley so much, for exactly 118 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 6: what you just broke down. And that's why I got 119 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 6: quiet because you speaking from experience. I'm speaking from a 120 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 6: so you looking at it from you actually playing the game. 121 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 6: I'm looking at it as a fan. But what I 122 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 6: see with Stantley is kind of what you just explained. 123 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 6: He plays different players difference. He can kind of play 124 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 6: both sides of the field. He get to it, he 125 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 6: get off his line fast, So I rock with him. 126 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: He nice. 127 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like God. I like God to travel. 128 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: Uh. You know, you look at Sauce and Pat, they're 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: kind of more They kind of like the tall angular guys. 130 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: Pat sirs had is so smooth. 131 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 2: He transitioned extremely well, the way he can flip his hips. 132 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: For a guy his size, it's hard pressed and you 133 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: probably won't find a guy because. 134 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: Sir Tanna's like six two. 135 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, ain't no, ain't no, yeah, ain't no 136 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: six foot he's six foot no, no, no, he's six two. 137 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: Maybe even tall Denzel Wards maybe not that tall. But 138 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: they kind of got sauce. Pat and Denzel kind of 139 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: have the same body type. They're like Finn framed. But 140 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: but uh CD is like as good a technique for 141 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: someone he has good a technique like now Revers had 142 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: some techniques. 143 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 7: I was just thinking about Daryl Reeves when you. 144 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: When it comes to playing the position, when it comes 145 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 5: to playing dB, I've always said that. 146 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: I've been saying it for years. 147 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 5: I think dB is the hardest position on the field 148 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 5: outside outside of the quarterback. Reavers got the patience at 149 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage of Sally May because you know everybody. 150 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 4: Still owe them loans for years and years a year. 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 5: That's the kind of patience I spoke God, that's kind 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: of patience Reavers got. 153 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: You can take all the moves you want. 154 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: He not moving, He's not budging until you go. 155 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 6: Move. 156 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: You forget it. 157 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: Might he might not bite the second move. 158 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: Doc Hey, O Joe, you can, Oh Joe, you could 159 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: do all this right, You do it all this right 160 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: here that you will. 161 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: Still waste because your waist ain't going nowhere. 162 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. 163 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 6: Shout out to Josh Norman too, man, Josh, you need 164 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 6: to lock there as well. 165 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: Jared Verus troll pooking the coure for looking like Lord Farquhar. 166 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: Watch this, y'all, I don't know. 167 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: We have famous people in the building now, scheg it out, 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: schigure it out, schig it out. 169 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lord Funk partners, Mom got Lord Funk. That's that's 170 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: what it's all about. That's what Joe, that's what you missed. 171 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: All that joney that goes on in the Ota, that 172 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: goes on in mini camps and training camps and all 173 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: this is what you missed. 174 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: Man. 175 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: You can't where're gonna get this from, Joe? When you 176 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: leave the game, where you're gonna get it from, You're 177 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: not gonna be around. 178 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: It's impossible. It's impossible. 179 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 5: You try to listen, you try to recreate it with 180 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 5: your friends that have nothing to do with the game 181 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 5: of football that you've known all your life, but it 182 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: would be I feel like being in that locker room. 183 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: Nothing. 184 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: Nope, all right, Sember, we're gonna get to your favorite 185 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to some NBA news. 186 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 7: Oh yeah. 187 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: Five seasons with the Knicks, Tom Fibodeaux went to twenty 188 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: six and one seventy four led the Knicks to the playoffs. 189 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: Four times, including back to back fifty win seasons, including 190 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals appearance for the first time in twenty 191 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: five years, advanced to and they advanced to the East Finals. 192 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: That wasn't enough, even Rick Carlisle said today, when I 193 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: first saw it, I thought it was one of those 194 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: fake AI things. 195 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: No way, there's no way. Simber when you. 196 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: First heard the news, you read it, he's like, man, 197 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: they fired TIBs. 198 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: What went through your mind? 199 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: Uh? 200 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 7: I kind of expected it. I kind of expected it. 201 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 6: I feel like Tibbs And no disrespect to TIBs because 202 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 6: he's a legend, but I feel like his style of 203 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: coaching is a bit outdated. I feel he kind of 204 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 6: looks for things that the game doesn't call for anymore, 205 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: and he doesn't really go deep into his bench, and 206 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 6: by the time his players get to the fourth quarter, 207 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 6: they gassed. And we kind of seen that in the playoffs. 208 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 6: We've seen Indiana kind of running him back and forth. 209 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 6: He tried to get deep in the bench. In basketball, 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 6: just like football, anything of sports, it's a game of rhythm, 211 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So you can't just throw 212 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 6: somebody in the playoffs when they ain't been playing all season. 213 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 6: In the third quarter and expect them to knock down shots. 214 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 6: So I think Bruntson could definitely benefit from a different coach. 215 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 6: The Knicks could. And I don't see I've seen what 216 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 6: you guys are saying the other night. I don't see 217 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 6: why Tim's kind of brought Caddy in if they had 218 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 6: the same issue back in Minnesota. I kind of don't 219 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 6: get where that came from. But I think the call 220 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 6: was a good call. It might be a bit confusing, 221 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 6: but I think it was a good call. 222 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Hey, and the wake up oh you read this, and 223 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: the wake of Tims fired. More reports have come out 224 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: about the Knicks coaching staff. Multiple Knick players have reportedly 225 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: been unhappy with the presence of assistant coach Rick Brunson, 226 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: who happens to be the dad of Jalen Brunson per Hoops. 227 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: While multiple Nick players have been unhappy with the presence 228 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: of assistant coach Rick Brunson, who happened to be the 229 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: father of star point guard Jalen Brunson, what that issue 230 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: is exactly has not been determined. Those sources suggest that 231 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: Rick has too big of a say in things. 232 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: Well is he probably gonna be the interim coach or 233 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 4: maybe the coach said that step. 234 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have a new coach. He ain't gonna 235 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: be there in them, he ain't gonna be nothing. 236 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: So you don't think. 237 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think they're gonna give him 238 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: the job. I don't think if they would have better, 239 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: I think Leon Rose and Worldwide West, who runs the 240 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: Knicks for Dolan? They're looking, Is it gonna be Bootenholzer, 241 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: Is it gonna be local? Is it gonna be you 242 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: know one of these guys? Uh uh? What's Mike. 243 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: And Letter say? The funny thing about it is is Timms. 244 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: Tims led the the Knicks to one of their greatest 245 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 5: not greatest season, but he took them very far. It's 246 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: been a very very long time since they've been in 247 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 5: a game of that magnitude or a series of that magnitude. 248 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: And when you look at the records of the past coaches, 249 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: I mean, he's done the best. 250 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: Again. 251 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: I agree with see him based on what out come. 252 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: You know, the little bit of basketball knowledge that I 253 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: do have is he does running players into the ground, 254 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: and they wore tie it. They were tired, especially when 255 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: they got to the back end of the season. The 256 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 5: back end of the series. Yeah, them boys ain't had 257 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 5: no legs. 258 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 7: Mm hmm. 259 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: But let me ask you a question. 260 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: Okay, it's like, oh man, they lost to they lost 261 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: to the uh, they lost to the Pacers. Had they 262 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: had they lost to Boston, would you're still a fired 263 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: Because I think the thing is maybe maybe beating the 264 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: beating the Celtics, who's the defending champs, Maybe that set 265 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: them unrealistic expectations because now, man, we knocked off Jason 266 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: Tatum and Jaylen Brown, the team that won the champions 267 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: just a year ago, won sixty games, and now we 268 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: lose to the Pacers. But if you go back to 269 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: look at the places, they got five six guys and 270 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: double figures every game. That's what they do. They're committee. 271 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: So you don't know who gonna light your ass up. 272 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: For one or two games. It might be si Okam. 273 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: Another game, it might be niemanth another game, it might 274 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: be Halliburton. So you you it's hard for you to determine, well, 275 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: who do we take away? 276 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: Who do we take away? So I think that's what happened. 277 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: I think once they beat the Celtics, everybody's like, oh Nick, 278 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: oh man, Nick going to the finals. Yeah, oh, we 279 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: got the Pacers. The Pacers just beat y'all last year 280 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: in Game seven on y'all home court. 281 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: I was one of them people too, right there. 282 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: My bad. This was this was this was a worst 283 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: matchup for the next because the thing that the Pacers 284 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: do the Knicks don't do well is get back on defense. 285 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: If you look at the Pacers, they're looking to run, 286 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: make or miss. They'll take it out, take it off 287 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: the rim, or take it out the net. You saw 288 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: the last game on Joe the Dicks make a basket 289 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: and in one past they Pascal Siacame is euro step 290 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: and laying. 291 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 7: Them all up up the floor. 292 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: So and you look at it. So now you got 293 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: Cat and people can play. They were complaining about Cat 294 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: playing defense, when if you known Cata the defensive guys. 295 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: So what you gave up getting Michael Bridges all those 296 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: draft picks, you weaken your bitch, and in the process 297 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: of weeking your bitch, now you got the ride. Guys 298 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: got to play guys extending minutes in the regular season, 299 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: and you overload. 300 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: Them come playoff time. 301 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: He expanded it, but if you remember the first Coming series, 302 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: he was only playing seven guys and then it got 303 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: to the point he played eight nine guys, it's too late, 304 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: too late. 305 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: Agree. 306 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 6: I agree, I think and New York might tear me 307 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 6: up for this, but I think Boston lost that series 308 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 6: more than New York won it. And what I mean 309 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 6: by that was, we didn't see great coaching from Tims. 310 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 6: In the first two games. We seen Boston get comfort 311 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: the bull and the Knicks make an incredible comeback twice. 312 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 7: We didn't see great coaching and great tactics. 313 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 6: And I think Boston kind of just like what you 314 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 6: just said, how the Knicks felt about the Pacers felt 315 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 6: that way about the Knicks, like, oh, we got the Knicks, 316 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 6: we got this, it's easy, and they kind of got comfortable, 317 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: let their feet off the gas, and they suffered in 318 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 6: the long run. 319 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, what happened was that they're shooting all them damn threes, 320 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: and you see what happened. Now, when you make them, 321 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: that's great, But what happened when you miss them? And 322 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: now they don't because they've been so successful making those 323 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: threes come crunch clutch time, they can't run no sets. 324 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: They still jacking them a bunch of threes. And you 325 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: see the Knicks. 326 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: Operating every time, they getting lay up, they getting whatever 327 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: they want to get. Man, I mean teams like with Damn, 328 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: I probably we should We probably should have lost to 329 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: the sel Things because I do believe, and I could 330 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: and I could be totally wrong, Sam, but I believe 331 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: because they beat the Celtics they had unrealistic expectations. 332 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: They thought they were gonna have a cake walk to 333 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: the NBA Finals. 334 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 6: Yep, I totally agree with that. Let me ask you, 335 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 6: guys this, where do you see Tibbs going? And what 336 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 6: do you think is the nixt head coach for the Knicks. 337 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: He Well, you got some guys out there. 338 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: You got Mike Malone, you got Bootenholzer, you got Frank Vogel. 339 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: Hell, give Sam can sale chance. You know what about 340 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: Mark Jackson? 341 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 7: Bring Mark back? 342 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: He played in the guard. He's from New York. Uh, 343 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think who I'm trying to think Who's 344 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: who's a hot hotare Stephen Smith? Steven Day and tried 345 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: to Steve They tried to coach no basketball. 346 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: I was like, look, I. 347 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: Mean, Sam, Mark Jackson, even hell, you don't even hear 348 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: Mark Jackson ain't even mentioned for coaching. 349 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels like they completely pushed Mark Jackson out. 350 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 6: I think Mike Loan would be great for New York. 351 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 6: I think his style of coaching would be great for 352 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 6: the city. It'd be great for Brunton. But I also 353 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 6: think they got to bring somebody else in there that 354 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 6: can knock down some shots. So Brunson ain't controlling the 355 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 6: ball so much because I feel it slows the offense 356 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 6: down when he's doing that in the fourth quarter, and 357 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 6: sometimes when Anononobe is getting going, or Cat might be 358 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 6: getting gone, or Bridges might get going. Now Brunton kind 359 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 6: of comes in and he takes the next four shots 360 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 6: and it kind of gets everybody out of rhythm. So 361 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 6: I definitely think they got to bring in another ball 362 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 6: handler or score or something to help complete it. 363 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: Hey, what about the name mentioned I Doka, Jason Kidd. 364 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: Both of those guys have current jobs. Jay R. Brown 365 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: former coach Walk Mike Brown like Luke walking that now. 366 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: I just saw him on somebody. If you with the Cavs, 367 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: I saw him somewhere. 368 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 7: New York could tell Luke Walton up on. 369 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: The pistols. Yeah, that's why Jammie bicker Staff. 370 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: But you got Bootenholzer who lost the job got a job, 371 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: got fired. You have Vogel who had a job, got 372 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: a job, got fired. Mike Brown got fired after he 373 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: had just signed the contract extension. Budenholder had another four 374 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: years left on his contract. Vogel had another four years 375 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: left on his contract, I mean eight. Matter of fact, it. 376 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 6: Feels like the last ten years of coaches of the 377 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: year got fired. 378 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 379 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 4: It got to be the right coach to to deal 380 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 4: with that New York atmosphere. Everybody ain't built flat, definitely. 381 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: H Draymond Green says he was rather losing the first 382 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: round than the NBA finals. Black Sports Online tweeted about 383 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: Draymond comments, said, I can call this my Lebron theory, 384 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: and you. 385 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: Can use it for any elite player. 386 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: It is better to go undefeated in the finals then 387 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: and go to a bunch of finals and lose. If 388 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: Lebron was pouring on in the finals of the pools 389 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: to four and six, would the perception be different if 390 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: the same thing was really symbol What do you think? 391 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 7: I agree? I want, I want thousand percent agree. Man. 392 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 6: It's it's that's a tough thing to do, right. You 393 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 6: gotta think about you guys played professional sports. Think about 394 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 6: all the thing that goes on from on the field 395 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 6: off the field, right, and to win a championship or 396 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 6: even to get to the finals playoffs let alone, y'all 397 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 6: got to be on one accord, you know. So to 398 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 6: constantly keep getting there, that shows the signs of greatness. 399 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 6: Whether you keep failing or not, you still keep getting there. 400 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 6: Everybody like to talk about Mike getting there six times 401 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 6: and him winning the six rings and everything like that, 402 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 6: but he also had a road of trying to get there. 403 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 6: That was a process. Lebron kind of got there a 404 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 6: little faster. So I agree with him. 405 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Lebron before and knowing the finals as opposed 406 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: to four and six now, that's still four wins. 407 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 6: If you have people say le Bron got five rings, 408 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: if you ask me, I count that in season tournament. 409 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: Because here's the thing. 410 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 2: Sim Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Lebron 411 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: got four rings in twenty two seasons. 412 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 3: They're gonna say, what do you do in the other 413 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: eighteen seasons? Go to the finals? So I get it. 414 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: It's just like, look, social media and social media has 415 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: its place. 416 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 3: It's done a lot of good. 417 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: It's made a lot of people famous, it's made a 418 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: lot of people wealthy beyond expectations. But I think the 419 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: thing is is that now everybody is a general manager, 420 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: everybody is a coach, everybody is a player personnel direct 421 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: that everybody is a former NFL player, or former NBA 422 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: player or MLB player, and so it gives everybody. Everybody 423 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: has an opinion now, whereas before a lot of these 424 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: guys it'll been very injury. If let's just say we started, 425 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna start social media in the eighties and. 426 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: Everybody could have an opinion. 427 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: When Jordan was getting bounced in the first round, I 428 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: wonder how they would take that if he's the best 429 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: player and he to go, because they're crying him to 430 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: go to nineteen eighty nine they said he's the greatest 431 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: players we've ever seen. 432 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: With no finals appearances. 433 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 6: And the crazy thing about that, I just seen something 434 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 6: the other day. I think, what was it NBA did 435 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 6: to deal with NBC in eighty nine or something like that, 436 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 6: So we didn't even get to see like those first 437 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 6: couple of years of July. Where's the tape of everybody 438 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 6: talking there like we see highlights, Like we didn't get 439 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 6: to see everything. 440 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: So it's like, no, you didn't see you didn't see 441 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: basketball game. 442 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 2: There was not a whole lot of you didn't get 443 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: a child for you to watch basketball during the week. 444 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: You watched basketball on Sunday. 445 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: Got you now once the playoffs started, okay, that was 446 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: a different story. But I grew up in the era 447 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: where the games would tape the lay even the NBA Finals, 448 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: the playoff with tape the lady, you didn't get an 449 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: opportunity to see those. 450 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: Wow. 451 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: So and when it first started, the first round was 452 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: the best two out of three. You win two games, 453 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: and then you advanced, and then you went to the semifinals, 454 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: and if you won three out of five, the best 455 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: of seven wasn't to the conference finals and the NBA Finals. 456 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: And it used to be you. 457 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: Got three shots to make two by the free throw line, 458 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: so once you got to the bonus, you got three 459 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: shots to make two. Yeah. 460 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 7: See, I think bron Bron would have dominated in that era. 461 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 6: It's just like if we look at it, like the 462 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 6: role Lebron had to travel, Right, we're talking about somebody 463 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 6: that's coming in from high school eighteen eighteen years old, 464 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 6: all his criticism on him, and this is like when 465 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: the internet is kind of coming into his age, absolutely 466 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 6: got an opinion on him. Mike didn't necessarily have to 467 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 6: deal with that type of pressure. Now, Mike did deal 468 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 6: with people outside the hotel rooms waiting. No, I mean 469 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 6: newspaper articles. But like you just said, with social media today, 470 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 6: it's one thing. It's a bittersweet thing. Everybody has an opinion, 471 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 6: but everybody opinion is invalidated because they haven't done it right. 472 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 6: I can't come to you and tell you I think 473 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 6: you wrong about anything in football. 474 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 7: I ain't never played in the NFL. Who am I 475 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 7: to tell you? 476 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 6: As a fan, I could give you my opinion, and 477 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 6: that's what I always try to speak. 478 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 7: From from a fan perspective. 479 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: Right when we're. 480 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 6: Talking about people that did it at a high level, 481 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 6: sometimes you just got to shut up, you know what 482 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 6: I mean, and listen to what the greats is seen. 483 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not very often that an eighteen year 484 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: old gets to come in he's the number one overall 485 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: pick and they're handing the keys to the franchise. They said, okay, 486 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: we're gonna go. We're only gonna go as far as 487 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: you take us. And now he didn't have a whole 488 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: lot of experience. He didn't get an opportunity to go 489 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: to college and learn on a legendary coach. 490 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: He didn't. I mean, think about what he had. 491 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: He came from a single parent home and he bounced around, 492 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 2: so everything that you see, he's kind of like had 493 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: to had to get it on his own, like tal 494 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: and he hadn't had you know, Uh, he hadn't had 495 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: any missteps for the most part. Yeah, you could say 496 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: people like, well, what about what about the decision? Well, 497 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: the Girls and Boys Club got five hundred thousand. That 498 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't have missed that exactly because guess what, somebody wanted 499 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: to hear it. I tell you what, if you think 500 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: it's missed that, if he wasn't who he was, tell 501 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 2: somebody else to have a decision, Yeah, and see how 502 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: they get covered. 503 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm totally with you. I think, in my opinion, 504 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 6: bron is the greatest to ever do it. I think 505 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 6: he went up against some of the greatest talent, right 506 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 6: like Dwight Howard, We're talking about Baby Shack and his prime, Like, 507 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 6: you gotta go up against that seven games, right, you 508 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 6: gotta go up against the San Antonio Spurs. 509 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 7: So he beat the Spurs you. 510 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 6: Know what I mean, Like they had to go up 511 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 6: against the Dallas Mavericks, who was incredible. We may not 512 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 6: look at them as the most athletic team with them 513 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 6: as a team, the Dallas Mavericks around that time, they 514 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 6: were incredible. And then to top it off, Kevin Durant 515 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 6: the Warriors. Yeah, you know what I mean, everything we 516 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 6: had to go up against. 517 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: Where would you And that's what I always tell people 518 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: of all the NBA champions where would you rank that 519 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen Warriors team? How many teams in history would 520 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: you have over them that. Let's just go back to 521 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: the nineties. When Jordan won his championships. What team did 522 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: he face? Was the seventeen eighteen Warriors for the Seattle No? 523 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: Was it Utah? 524 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: No? 525 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: Was it Portland? Was it Phoenix? I'm just trying to 526 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: figure out. And so you looking at it, look, I 527 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: mean think about it. On that team you got Steph 528 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: and Clay, I mean Stephan Draymond All seventy five team. 529 00:25:53,520 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: You look at Portland, not Portland, San Antonio, Tim Duncans 530 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: All seventy seventy fifth Anniversary team, Kawhi seventy fifth anniversary team. 531 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Uh mine was not a seventy fifth anniversary guy is 532 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't think so Tony Parker's Tony Parker won. I 533 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: don't think Tony Parker won. Yeah, But but they make 534 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: it seem like the the only, the only, the only, 535 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: the only team that I. 536 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: Think they should have beat. 537 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: But when you go back and look at it, the 538 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: Mavericks swept, see people sweep this out of the rug. 539 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: Sim that Mavericks team swept the Lakers team that had 540 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: just went back to back. 541 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 6: I just said, we we forget about that because they 542 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 6: weren't the most sexy, they wasn't athletic, but that was 543 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 6: a great team. 544 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: They swept the Lakers that had just went back to back. 545 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: They had a gentleman's sweep on OKC. 546 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: But still, for me, I think that was the only 547 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: time that that Lebron has probably been favored and he 548 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: didn't win, and. 549 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 7: It's it could have. 550 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 6: It was a thing I truly believe of him and 551 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 6: d Wade didn't know who team it was yet, so 552 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 6: I think that case, I think they was looking for 553 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 6: each other the lead and kind of who was going 554 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 6: to take the lead, and it was kind of getting 555 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 6: too late by that time. 556 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 7: The Mavericks had already won two games. 557 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: Right, Adam Silver on the NBA All Star Game next 558 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: season and the Clippers into it. Don't the All Star 559 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: Game will feature some form Team USA versus Team World. 560 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: All Star Game now will be in the afternoon instead 561 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: of the evening. 562 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 3: You like that change, Sam. 563 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know. 564 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 6: I feel like All Star Game is it's been a tragedy. 565 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: The past few years. 566 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 7: Oh man, it's been a tragedy. 567 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 6: And I think when things keep becoming a tragedy and 568 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 6: you keep trying things and it's not. 569 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 7: Working, just go back to the original way. 570 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: Just go away. 571 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: But the thing is, though, to them, they don't play anymore, 572 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: see them, I don't want to see no games team 573 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: in the NBA. They scoring two hundred points, Sam, But 574 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 2: you know now all of them is dunks and threes. 575 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: They ain't playing no defense. 576 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 7: But you know why that is? 577 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: Hunh? 578 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 7: You know, like I know, those weekends ain't about the 579 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 7: game no more. 580 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: Nah, part of the city it used to be about 581 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: the game. 582 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 7: They not coming in there. 583 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 6: Anthony Edwards had about nine events on Saturday, seven, on Friday, three, 584 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 6: on Thursday, a brunch on Sunday before the game. I'm tired, man. 585 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 6: They got me doing all this. So they got a 586 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 6: final way to bring the events kind of down, a 587 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 6: little bit of something to get these players time to 588 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 6: kind of enjoy their families, enjoy their week off, and 589 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 6: show up on Sunday raid to play and play. 590 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: They gotta play. But oh ya, I said this. 591 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: I remember when I when I saw this thing going 592 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: left with the Pro Bowl, I said, they're gonna cancel 593 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: this before you know. Nah man, Now, I said, I'm 594 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: telling you, they not finna keep paying y'all this money 595 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: they paying y'all. 596 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 3: Oh jo they payed them one hundred thousand just to compete. 597 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: I remember, and we was, oh, Joe, you went shortly 598 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: after I left the league, y'all probably was making fifteen 599 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: twenty five tops. 600 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: It wasn't that much. 601 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: Now they mak it. 602 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: Now you get eighty, you get a one hundred thousand 603 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: if you win, you get fifty seventy five thousand if 604 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: you lose. 605 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: Ain't got Now they out there playing touch football. 606 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: Now they've turned it into a flag football, and they 607 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: got all these festivities where you know, you try to 608 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: hit the bulls eye and you hit a movie like 609 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: come on. 610 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 5: I was thinking back back then when we played on 611 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: I mean everything, it was about competing and it was competitive. 612 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: Maybe might have been an All Star game, it might 613 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: have been a Pro Bowl where you know those that 614 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 5: were selected. But when it was time to play man, hey, 615 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: Sam Boy, it was real. You know when Kobe and 616 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 5: them boy and then shock them boys when they made 617 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 5: off when it was they had All Star game, Oh 618 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: they was finna play. 619 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: I feel like too. 620 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 6: It was a different level of focus in your time 621 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 6: because it wasn't so many distractions, so everybody was kind 622 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 6: of like zoned in on their craft, zoned in on 623 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 6: what it is they did. So when they came to 624 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 6: play with the OCHO right when Charles Woodson got a guard, Oho, 625 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 6: you want to prove his point out there? 626 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: And I tried to prove mine. 627 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I TOLDO, I said, look, when I went 628 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: across that water, I was looking to light somebody asked 629 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: up one on walk if I didn't want you to 630 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: think you get back to the mainland and could cover me. 631 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: You couldn't come me across the water. You can't come 632 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: me on the mainland. So don't you come with with 633 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: that bull drive NOWA that's but I was just like 634 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: and and and and and the thing is like you said, 635 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: now it's a layup or three boy shot. 636 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: Hey. 637 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh, but I said, bro y'all, y'all quit the hollow. Jordan, 638 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: y'all quit the haller. Kobe, y'all don't say nothing about it. 639 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: When it comes to the All Star Game, y'all don't 640 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: mention Kobe or Jordan. But y'all quick, that's all about 641 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: They was killers. Yeah, okay, when y'all goosed to be 642 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: turning some killers of the doll Star Game. 643 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's just a different time now. 644 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: Unk. 645 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 7: Like, Man, I've seen this. 646 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 6: Shout out to Jason Crow Junior, a young player coming 647 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 6: up out here in California. I went to one of 648 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 6: his games, and I've seen a few players and they 649 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 6: was just talking and one of these kids was like, 650 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 6: as long as I get. 651 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 7: An nil deal, I don't even work worry about going 652 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 7: to NBA. 653 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I was like, man, like, the competitive nature 654 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 6: of just grinding and wanting to achieve your goal and 655 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 6: that process is gone now because these kids getting so 656 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 6: much money. You go to some of these colleges, the 657 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 6: parking lot look like a Ben's dealership, like it does. 658 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: It's different. 659 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: It ain't it, ain't no more, ain't no more scat pass, 660 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: no hell cast and all the track halts, them jokes 661 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: got ferrari, they got lamboles, they got colored in there. 662 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: Yep. 663 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 5: I'm like Daniel, listen, Sam, that's a that's a short dream. 664 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: You short changing yourself. The big dream, the big money. 665 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: I mean it's a n I l A that's gonna do. 666 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: That's good money. That hey, that hold yo, I'm trying 667 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: to get the fifty set up. 668 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 5: There got the mill until you see everybody else you 669 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 5: played with getting two hundred fifty million and you talking 670 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 5: about some man. 671 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 6: She speaking speaking of that quick question for both of you. 672 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 6: What's something from you guys's childhood that fueled you'll work 673 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 6: as it. 674 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: I ain't have no running water, that'll do it. 675 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: Going outside with the mosquitoes biting you, and you gotta 676 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: take raid and spread to keep the mosquitoes off you, 677 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: and you gotta put a you gotta put an overcoat 678 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: on to go go out in the woods. That a 679 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: motivation you. You ain't got no indoor plumbing, you ain't 680 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: got no running water, you ain't got no air condition. 681 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: That a motivation you? 682 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: You? I mean you go like a warehouse and they 683 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: got seamen floors. That's what we had. That a motivation. 684 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: You got a tin roof and you can look up 685 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: and you can see the sun. That a motivation. Sometimes 686 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: an empty stomach, it's all the motivation you need. 687 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 5: I had kids early, bro, I had kids early, and 688 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 5: obviously my dream. My dream was to play in the NFL. 689 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 5: And I put in too much work as a little shorty, 690 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 5: as a legit. 691 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 4: I had to make it. I told myself, I'm gonna 692 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 4: make it to the league. 693 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 5: I remember telling coaches in high school, remember telling teachers 694 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 5: I was gonna make it. They told me I was never. 695 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 5: I never was gonna mouthed nothing. I needed that he 696 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 5: gave me and gave me a little chip, So I'm 697 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: gonna make it. Obviously, and having kids early shady, I 698 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 5: got to take care of these kids. 699 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: He had no choice. And I wanted to be good 700 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: at my craft. I wanted to be good. I didn't 701 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: need the best. 702 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: But whenever I left the game, people gonna say, boy, 703 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 5: he was one of the one of the best to 704 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 5: ever played. 705 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: That that was that was motivating. 706 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: An empty stomach and an empty wallet. What more motivation 707 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: you need? 708 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: With fact? 709 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 4: And they ain't need somebody else too. 710 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: You know what you need? That's it. Your Grandma's like 711 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: a hey boy, ain't got no lights. I ain't got 712 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: no phone, the phone off because you can't pay a 713 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: fifty dollar phone bill and they ain't got no lights. 714 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: So you know you gotta you gotta. 715 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: My grandma gotta jug some stuff around and you gotta 716 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: make it do until she can come up till the 717 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: next payday. Yeah, oh yeah, all right, son, you got 718 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: to go go out there and get some ads because 719 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: we ain't got no eggs. So now we got to 720 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: go out there and get eggs. You gotta find agg 721 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: you got to run the gens off. 722 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: The eggs man. 723 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 5: You know that I hate sem and it's people that 724 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 5: you know it needs to be done right, but you're 725 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 5: with your friends to do it. Like there's no self motivation. 726 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 5: You can't get nothing done unless somebody else is doing 727 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 5: it with you. But that means you fooling yourself, you fully. 728 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 7: And I used to I used to have that same problem. 729 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 6: I used to have that same problem because I was 730 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 6: afraid of feeling, and I was afraid of feeling by myself. 731 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 6: So I was like, I either want to win with 732 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 6: somebody or we fail together. And one thing I had 733 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 6: to learn is like that don't bless me, you know 734 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So you might bring in the wrong person. 735 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 6: You might have the wrong person that you're trying to 736 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 6: walk into a situation that he don't belong in. 737 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 7: And it's like, God ain't. 738 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 6: Gonna grant you what you looking for because you bringing 739 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 6: you bringing damaged goods to the table of what I'm 740 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 6: trying to set for you. So I had to I 741 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 6: had to learn how to develop that confidence for myself 742 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 6: of just sitting in that studio writing and being in 743 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 6: this room and you know, looking at my son in 744 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 6: the face like I'm doing it for you, bro, I'm 745 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 6: not doing it too because I'm afraid no more or 746 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 6: bringing all these people with me for validation because I'm 747 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 6: afraid of what might happen if they're not there. Like now, 748 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 6: you got to get up and go do it. If 749 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 6: you failed, just fall forward and get up and keep going. 750 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember happening when I had dreams about being 751 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: something and it wasn't a whole lot of people in 752 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: my dream. I'm like, well, damn, I guess he tried 753 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: to tell me something m I wasn't supposed to bring 754 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: a whole lot of people with me. 755 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 3: M oh Man. 756 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: Even even the biggest planes can only carry so much 757 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: of a load. Even the biggest planes, oh Joe, even 758 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 2: with the biggest cargo planes, there's only they can only 759 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: carry so much. 760 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 7: Oh, that's so that's so true. 761 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: My mom. 762 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 6: My mom says something to me the other day to 763 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 6: stick with me. I was telling her she was trying 764 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 6: to introduce me to somebody, and I was like, my 765 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 6: own't even like meeting too many people no more, because 766 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 6: they come around with these expectations and they think you're 767 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 6: supposed to do something. And I remember wanting to be 768 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 6: in this space and be like, when I get my shot, 769 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 6: I'm never gonna be mean or turn people down. 770 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 7: I'm gonna take every picture. But people take that for granted. 771 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 6: And my mom says, I was like, it's hard for 772 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 6: me to get along with people to now I feel 773 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 6: like they don't understand me. And my mom said, uh, 774 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 6: she said, she said, when you growing, she said, it's 775 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 6: not that people don't love you. When you're growing, you 776 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 6: hard to understand. Right, If someone hasn't tried to grow, 777 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 6: you're going to always be hard to understand because they 778 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 6: stuck at where they at and you're trying to go 779 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 6: somewhere else, and they may see that as all you changing, 780 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 6: and because you not adopting the ideologies they have now, 781 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 6: you feel like they feel like you devalue them when 782 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 6: it's just like, nah, bro, it might be a better 783 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 6: way we could grow together. So that's something I had 784 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 6: to learn right there. 785 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 3: Uh, it's tough. 786 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: It's tough because you know, a lot of times you 787 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: want to the people that were around when you didn't 788 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 2: have anything. But a lot of times those people their 789 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: minds doesn't grow like yours grow. They think just because 790 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: they're around, they're supposed to always be around. But at 791 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 2: some point in time you can look. I understand, but 792 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 2: there has to be value that comes along with something. 793 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 2: The New Orleans Pelicans will continue to move forward with 794 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: Zion Williamson as the face of their franchise. Per Joe Dubars, 795 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: I've had some real artist conversations with him, some real 796 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 2: direct and honest conversations. We're going forward with Zion. He's 797 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: going to continue to be the focal point as we 798 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: go forward. 799 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 6: Sim Since Zion and Milwaukee, man, you gotta you gotta 800 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 6: get it. Not for your honest let him go play 801 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 6: with you, but you gotta get him out of New Orleans. 802 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 6: You got all that good food out there. You gotta 803 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 6: what's that place? Dragons? 804 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 7: They got that, the big oysters over there. You got. 805 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: The crab, the crab. 806 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 6: Oh my god, you got all that good food. Man, 807 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 6: get Zion where they got vegan options. 808 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 7: You gotta get him. 809 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 6: You gotta get him out of New Orleans immediately. I 810 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 6: think the run is done. I think that the time 811 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 6: has come for them to kind of blow this thing 812 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 6: up and let him move on. 813 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 7: It's over with. 814 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: Damn. 815 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 5: Oh Joe, Hey, you know, we we talked about Zion 816 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 5: in length, you know, for a very long time now, 817 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 5: and he hasn't spoken at all. 818 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 4: You know, We've all had our opinion. 819 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 5: Obviously. I want to see him playball. Whether it's New Orleans, 820 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 5: I don't care. I don't care where it is. I 821 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 5: just want to see him on the court because I 822 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 5: know what he can do once he's out there, when 823 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 5: he's healthy. Whether whether it be New Orleans, I'm not 824 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 5: sure what's gonna happen. You know how this business works, 825 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 5: and mostly the players have all the levers. So unless 826 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 5: he says he doesn't want to be there. He's going 827 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 5: to be a Pelican. If he's going to be there, 828 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 5: I just want to see him on the court. Pro 829 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 5: that's it. 830 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 2: It's hard to give up a superstar, trade a superstar 831 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: unless you're going to get one back in return. 832 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 3: And that's why the star, he's a star. I'll be 833 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: a star player. 834 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: I mean, it looked we had they like, damn, we 835 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: had a D, we lost a D and the next 836 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: year we get Zion. 837 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody, ain't no stars coming to New Orleans. 838 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: And so that's why when these small market team when 839 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: they when they land one of these big fish, they 840 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: try to hold on to him as long as they 841 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 2: possibly can. That's why Milwaukee bending over backwards, trying to 842 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: make sure, what do you need you need ten Harley 843 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: Davidson's we'll get them for you. What do you what 844 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 2: do you need? You need an Airbnb and and and 845 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 2: and and and believe we'll get it for you. Because 846 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: think about it, you go Kareem and then Kareem leaves. 847 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: I think in like seventy six, seventy five, seventy six, 848 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: it's thirty years before you get Yannis. So it's not 849 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 2: You're not La. You got Will, you got Jared West, 850 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 2: you got el Jim Baylor, you got Kareem, you got Magic, 851 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: you got James Worthy, you got Kobe, you got Shot, 852 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 2: you got Lebron, you got a d Now you got Luca. 853 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: It don't work like that for it don't work like 854 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: that for everybody, see elf. 855 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when I get a guy, I'm gonna do 856 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: everything I possibly can. 857 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 3: So Cleveland got Lebron. They a. 858 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 2: You want to build us? You want you to be Okay, 859 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: we'll build our trainshial close to where you living Afrod Okay, cool, 860 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 2: no problem. You want access, no problem. You want your 861 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: mama to sit here, no problem? Because what's the likelihood 862 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 2: of you ever getting another Lebron James? If you Cleveland. 863 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: So with that being said, you move heavy and earth 864 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: and you do everything you can to make sure they're happy. Look, 865 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 2: I agree with you, o, y'all. I just wanted to 866 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 2: be healthy. I wanted to be healthy for two years 867 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 2: in a row because I believe he can turn the corner. 868 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: Because Aillan can't be more than what twenty five, yeah, 869 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 2: twenty four, twenty five. 870 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 7: He's some He's somewhere around there. Somewhere. 871 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 6: But I'm telling you, Unk, in order to keep them healthy, 872 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 6: you gotta get them out of New Orleans. 873 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 2: Man. 874 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 6: You gotta get them some vegan options. We gotta get 875 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 6: them some Asai bowls. We gotta get them healthy out there, Unk, Like, 876 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 6: we all want to see them ball, we want to 877 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 6: see them play, but it's always been a dilemma and 878 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 6: they just they can't seem to get it together. 879 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: Well, good luck with that, Joe, dude. Look, Joe Dubars 880 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 2: has been around the game. He been I mean, he's 881 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 2: been around the game forty plus years. He's played with 882 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 2: some great players. He put some teams together, and so 883 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 2: we'll see what he can do. Euro Cup champion Tel 884 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: Aviv are expecting to make Russell Westbrook an offer never 885 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 2: before seen in European basketball. Should russ accept the money 886 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: or stay? Basically, he's gonna be on a mid level 887 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: or a minimum contract. O Joe, sim does he take 888 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: the big dollars to go overseas or does he stay 889 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 2: right here? 890 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 4: You say big dollars? How much are you talking? 891 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, in order to make it make sense, 892 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 2: it's probably gonna need to be twelve fifteen millis. 893 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: Not well considered he make four five million in the NBA. 894 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 5: Hell no, absolutely not, not for someone of his caliber. 895 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 2: What's the most money somebody's made the European basketball? Can 896 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: we find that we need to get We need a 897 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: AI anybody want to advertise so we can just pull 898 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: that up and it just pop up on my screen. 899 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 6: So no, I think I don't think Russ need the money. Man, 900 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 6: you know, Russ is invested in a lot of. 901 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 3: Don't need the money. 902 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think he'll go out there and play 903 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 6: for the money. 904 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 3: And then he don't want to be away from his family. 905 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: He ain't move with his family overseas. 906 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 3: I think it's white the name. He got kids, he 907 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: got twins, and that not he going. 908 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 5: Uh, absolutely not makes no sense. And they couldn't offerim. 909 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 5: They couldn't offer him enough. 910 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 2: Oh hell now, the most money anybody's ever made in 911 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 2: Europe is four million dollars a year. 912 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 3: It's over that. They might as well. 913 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 7: They might as well get that to me. 914 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 3: Yuh, look, get up to me. 915 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 7: I go out there, give them twelve or ten. 916 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 917 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 4: I give him am. 918 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 8: Hey, you know it can get crazy. Now if the 919 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 8: Saudi's had a league. Now they oh like they like, 920 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 8: they got like they got they could pull you, they 921 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 8: could pull some NBA players and fire of there. 922 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah you see what Renald over getting man? Please 923 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 2: two hundred million a year? Hey yeah, Lebron to leave 924 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: for two hundred million a year. 925 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 7: A year, that's ridiculous. 926 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I going over there, Hey, going over there for 927 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 3: a quick for five. 928 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 7: Years there are here, unc I ain't never coming back. 929 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, a matter of fact, getting me with no tax 930 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think. You probably don't play 931 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 3: taxes on it. And they gave a jet and they 932 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 3: gave him uh uh, what's it called, like a car everything? 933 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave a house. 934 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that money over the different man, they got it. 935 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 3: They got it, big money. 936 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: Sam. But check this out. Apparently, Oh Joe was in 937 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: the gym today and he was tossing around some one twenties. 938 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: Apparently we got video evidence we got here. 939 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm strong. 940 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out. I don't see no 941 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 2: sing I got we got to zoom in. We gotta 942 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: see it the one twenty because. 943 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: Them could be damn them damn weights bigger than my 944 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 4: damn chest. 945 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 9: Somebody you know what big Yeah, there was some big weights. Okay, 946 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 9: oh yeah, yeah, I'm strong now, I'm strong. 947 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 4: I just like this. 948 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 2: For it's a it's a life finding. No, we don't 949 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 2: do anything less than sick. 950 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 5: We don't do anything when I go in there tomorrow, right, 951 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 5: Tomorrow's legs for me, right, but Sam, just for him, 952 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 5: I want to show him. 953 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 4: I saw Aaron. 954 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 5: Donald doing one thirties, right, so I'm like, okay, Aaron don' 955 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 5: doing on thirties. I know I could do one twenties. 956 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 5: I could do five. So tomorrow I'm gonna go to 957 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 5: one forties. I'm gonna do a set while I'm fresh. 958 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 2: You ain't gonna do nothing to me. 959 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 5: You told me I couldn't do one twenties and I 960 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 5: just gave you five right there. But he did it 961 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 5: on the incline, do the in class. 962 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 7: This is mean. 963 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 3: Look what you mean? 964 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 2: What the difference? 965 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 3: It's me? It's me. 966 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 4: I could do that. 967 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 2: Man. 968 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 5: You keep telling me what I can't do, and I 969 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 5: keep showing you I could do it. You told hey, Sam, 970 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 5: you're gonna see me tomorrow, right. I'm opposing Tomorrow's leg day. 971 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 5: But I just want to show un I could do 972 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 5: one forties and I'm gonna do it on inclan because 973 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 5: he just told me I couldn't. 974 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 4: He He sounded like my teachers in high school. They 975 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 4: told me. Now I'm on nightcap. 976 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 3: I mean, there it is. 977 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 4: He said, he go do it tomorrow. 978 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 3: I would let it. I would let him have it. 979 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 3: He gonna catch me. 980 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sneak in the Florida one day and catch 981 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 2: him in the gym. Let everybody see what I for. 982 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: What they do? It real bad? 983 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 7: What you what you're putting up in there? What you're 984 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 7: looking like? 985 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 4: Nothing? 986 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 2: Nothing? 987 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 5: We didn't Listen, we live the same amount of weight. 988 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 5: And no, we're about the same size right now, but 989 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:28,479 Speaker 5: we live the same amount of weight. Uh Sam, Still 990 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 5: right Sam? Right now, I lost I lost about twenty pounds. 991 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 5: They got a little something going on right now. But 992 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 5: give it, give it, give it, give it. Give me 993 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 5: a little bit of time. I'll get past that. I 994 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 5: deal with you downed road. 995 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 4: Listen, you done lost weight and I'm gaining weight. But 996 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 4: it's cool, That's okay. 997 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: I still I probably still could do those one twenties. 998 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: I ain't at the one fifties like I used to be. 999 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 2: But give me, give me fifties. 1000 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 5: You do one fifties, Okay, then I do one fifties tomorrow, 1001 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 5: just to show you where I'm at. Man, you really listen, hey, 1002 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 5: seem you know not on no funny ship. You could 1003 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 5: see you can see the frame. Man, I'm sculpting like 1004 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 5: a like a Greek, like a Greek god. 1005 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 2: Man. 1006 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 4: Good, you really can't see it. And you know my 1007 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 4: girl be tripping by having my. 1008 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 3: Shirt Offso now I thought you. I thought you had 1009 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 3: what you call him night cap tattooed on your chest. 1010 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 2: Oh you got to. 1011 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 5: Hooeyut bad damn you? I was he really liked that 1012 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 5: got tattoo. Yeah, hey, listen, I'm ready. I'm ready for 1013 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 5: the summer, man, I said, when the summer start. 1014 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 2: Summers June twenty, June twenty first, twenty second official a. 1015 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 3: Boy from what you stopped. 1016 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 7: Summers. 1017 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 6: Here, I see some nice soft legs today. Some's here 1018 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 6: you see it? What some nice soft legs somesion, ain't 1019 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 6: I appreciate. I appreciate y'all for having me. Man, big 1020 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,919 Speaker 6: fan of the show, as y'all already know. Love, We're 1021 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 6: going up tomorrow for the NBA Finals. Shout out to 1022 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 6: the Payoffs. Scouts Big Watch party tomorrow. Love what y'all 1023 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 6: doing here at Nightcap. Man, appreciate you, Oh appreciate you. 1024 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 6: Y'all keep killing, Tell them where we can find you. 1025 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 6: What are you on our I g we got a Facebook? 1026 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 6: You got what you two? What you got going on? 1027 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,479 Speaker 6: Tell us where we can find you at the real 1028 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 6: symbol on all platforms that's th h E R e 1029 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 6: A L S y n b A. You can find 1030 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 6: that amongst all socials. Men, and keep support Nightcap because 1031 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 6: we like to do something before to something. 1032 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about, Sam. We appreciate that. 1033 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 2: Man, all the best, continued success when you get some 1034 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: time stop back by gearing for us. 1035 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 7: Definitely will appreciate y'all. 1036 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 2: All right, guys, Oh Joe, we're gonna get you out 1037 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 2: of here on this one, and that's time for our 1038 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 2: final seven of the evening. 1039 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 3: It's time for Q and eight. Hey gin. 1040 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 4: Un thing but nice and clean and nice and slow too. 1041 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 2: Quentin Mobley said, Oh Joe was having a season with 1042 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 2: them one twenty dumb bells today that ball was shaking 1043 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 2: worse than a woman in the area. Twenty nine hashtag 1044 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 2: muchee him talking. They making jokes, but I wasn't shaking. 1045 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: I was nice and slow and perfect form. 1046 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 3: Shake it. 1047 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 4: I don't think you know it's funny. I think people 1048 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 4: don't really understand how heavy that is. Huh. I mean 1049 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 4: you you see it all the time, You've done it 1050 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 4: all the time. 1051 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 5: But I think people that go to the Cancil gym 1052 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 5: where they don't even have one hundred and twenty pounds dumb. 1053 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 4: Bells, I don't think they understand how heavy that is. 1054 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm really like that. 1055 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 4: I told you if she. 1056 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 3: Ain't won eighty Uh, doctor Frankie L. 1057 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,760 Speaker 2: Bell, behave fam What's one thing today players do better 1058 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 2: than your era, And what's one thing they'll never touch 1059 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 2: from your generation? 1060 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 3: That part talent? 1061 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 2: That yeah, it's called it's called technology. 1062 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 3: Show what happens. 1063 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 2: They got better die, they got better training, they got 1064 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 2: a better they got they got they started from a 1065 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 2: better foundation. I do think we have a better appreciation, 1066 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,959 Speaker 2: but I ain't finn to see them say, oh, look, 1067 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 2: there are certain players that were talented, but I'm talking 1068 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 2: about overall the talent in all sports. Because they got 1069 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 2: better training, they got better nutrition, they got better technology. 1070 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 3: Just the way it is. 1071 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 2: I mean, think about how Look. Think about when Tiger 1072 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 2: Tiger nineteen ninety seven burst on the scene. Think about 1073 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 2: how far he was hitting the golf ball. He's the 1074 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 2: only one they could do it. Now they got twenty ball, 1075 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 2: twenty guys, thirty guys. They can hit the golf ball 1076 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 2: as far as Tiger. Look at the guys when we 1077 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: were in Awe the way Reggie Miller and Larry Bird 1078 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 2: and Mark Christ them guys shot the ball. 1079 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 3: Man they got got they got free folk. Guy of 1080 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 3: a team that I shoot the cut off the ball. 1081 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 3: It is what it is, Oh Joe, I accepted. 1082 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know. Man, my generation we 1083 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 2: did with did, but they got better technology. Now they 1084 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 2: got more. It's called advancement. You know how I know. 1085 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: Look at medicine. They don't do surgery the same way. 1086 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, ain't no guy missing. Your career is not 1087 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 2: over when you have ACL Your career is not over 1088 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 2: when you have the killes injury. 1089 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 3: I mean stuff that used to people were done. Now 1090 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 3: guys come back. 1091 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: Kevin. Look at Kevin Durrad. If somebody didn't tell you, 1092 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 2: you wouldn't know. Kevin Durant came came up. The Achilles 1093 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 2: injury Lady Red finally back, Uh, Lady Rad, Hey, guys, 1094 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 2: love and Shallon's tea. 1095 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 3: Who's your favorite Simpson character? Mine is Ralphy? 1096 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 1: Who Quo Bark Yeah, Holmer Bark Leaf, Marge. 1097 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 4: You can't name all of them. We say who's your 1098 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 4: favorite one? 1099 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying. Ashley was asking me, do I 1100 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 3: know characters? Look? 1101 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 2: I like the Simpsons, American Dads? What about South Park? 1102 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 2: Stewie give me, give me Stewie, give me Stewie. 1103 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 7: Story. 1104 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 4: Funny you watch South Park? I watched a little bit 1105 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 4: of You have a favorite character? You don't know most 1106 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 4: of them? 1107 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 2: I don't really know the care I used to watch 1108 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 2: what what's the one that come on m t V? 1109 00:53:41,280 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 2: Beavers and Bad? So if I had to say Holmer Man, 1110 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 2: the Simpsons been, Oh damn the forty they was coming 1111 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: on because. 1112 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 5: Funny and for some reason, the Simpsons are very good 1113 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 5: at predicting history. But they they're close to it every time. 1114 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 5: There ain't no goddamn coincidence every time. Nope, you're right, 1115 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 5: here's her said Uncle Ocho. You were both leaders in 1116 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 5: your locker room. How would you have handled the Dolphins 1117 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 5: bullying scandal? If that would have happened in your locker 1118 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 5: rooms in devil Baltimore, Cincinnati. 1119 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,959 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, that would have never happened. Ain't nobody. 1120 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody gonna be saying all that? What what happened? 1121 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 2: They said it wasn't bullying, but there was some racial 1122 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 2: appitet being being thrown around in the locker room, not 1123 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,439 Speaker 2: to the extent of it. I don't know. I wasn't there, 1124 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: but that ain't what we did. 1125 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 4: We're talking about bullying, win, I know. 1126 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 2: I guess a Richard Richard, Yeah, needle and and and. 1127 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 5: Madam bully, you've grown ass man man in the NFL, 1128 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 5: you three hundred some pounds, talk about somebody book get 1129 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 5: your ass. 1130 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't do that. 1131 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: But even if it wasn't bullying and wing'na, we ain't 1132 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 2: gonna be hurling no racial lepodas. 1133 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 4: I don't remember that part. Okay, my bad mm hmm Lillie. 1134 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 2: Well, look, holy they got it resolved. I mean, look, 1135 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 2: our locker room was harmonious. Did did guys right there? 1136 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 2: But the fall over you know, they fall in the 1137 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 2: locker room. Damn training cap. We had to get Tracy. 1138 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 2: You know, hey, you say the wrong thing or you 1139 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: know something. You know. Hey, look, I think sometimes don't 1140 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 2: your people think because you make X amount of dollars 1141 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 2: that some of the same things that will set somebody 1142 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 2: off that doesn't make money. 1143 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 3: We'll set the person off that make money. And I'll tell. 1144 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 2: You, guys ain't gonna let there's a certain level. 1145 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 3: I don't care how big you are, how old you are. 1146 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 2: Certain guy ain't gonna just let you blatantly disrespect them, 1147 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 2: because no matter where you are, the number one currency 1148 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:21,320 Speaker 2: is respect. So Casey Taylor, start, Bench, cutt Duce mcauster, 1149 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,839 Speaker 2: Wark done, Brian m Brian Westbrook, this is for you. 1150 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,479 Speaker 3: Uh so ojoe, you got Duce mccollus to war. 1151 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 2: He said, he said, no, no, no, this is no 1152 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 2: he said for you. I got Algiae, Crumpler, random, McMichael, 1153 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 2: Chris Cooley. So I got the tight end, you got 1154 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 2: the running backs. You want me to go first? 1155 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah'm gonna go first. 1156 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 2: You want me to go first, and you're going first. 1157 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 2: I'm going first. Okay, I'll take you. I'll start Algia 1158 00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: crumpler six and one hand, half a dozen the other. 1159 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 2: I guess i'd go McMichael, bench chairman and cut Cooley. 1160 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 3: But you can go either. 1161 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I probably should start Bitch Cooley 1162 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 2: and uh Randy McMichael. 1163 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 3: But I'll go I'll go Algaie Randy or Cooley. 1164 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 4: So I got Duce McAllister, walk Done and. 1165 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 5: Brian west Oh my god, Nah, it's my start is 1166 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 5: out of Brian Westbrook and and work Done. 1167 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 4: I just I'm trying to figure out which one. 1168 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 5: Because Brian west very simple, egregrated to say the same thing, 1169 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 5: very similar guy who was a little bit more dynamic. 1170 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 5: Brian Westbrook was nice. Walk Done was nice as well. 1171 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 5: They both laid the same and can catch the ball 1172 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 5: out the backfield. 1173 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 4: Mccallouson was a big back. 1174 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 3: Uh huh, yeah, he is. 1175 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 4: A big boy. I wonder who had the better career 1176 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 4: at UH at Warwick. 1177 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 2: And that's because you know, Warrick had started at Tampa 1178 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. 1179 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 4: I remember Dan, that's a good one. 1180 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: Well give us a good ass. 1181 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 5: You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna go with. I'm 1182 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 5: gonna go with Warck Done soon before what he does 1183 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 5: in the community. I'm gonna start war work done a 1184 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 5: bench at my bench Westbrook, and I love I love 1185 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 5: du That's my boy, my new Orleans Saint Dogg. 1186 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut deuce. 1187 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 2: Damn Circase said, my guys, should Michael Parkson's plays sit 1188 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 2: out until he gets his contract? Well, look, he's at 1189 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 2: ot As. I don't know if he's doing it. I 1190 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 2: don't know if he's like participating, but I know he 1191 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 2: shows up. He's getting his work out in, probably doing 1192 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 2: his conditioning, but he probably not doing anything on the field. 1193 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get something done before he goes. 1194 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 1195 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 2: He keeps telling them it is a David Muga letter. 1196 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 2: Uh is his agent. Jerry is trying to get it. 1197 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 2: You know, Hey, I cant talk to michaelh blah blah blah. 1198 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 2: No you didn't you But he didn't do all this stuff. 1199 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 2: He didn't do this with with that. He didn't try 1200 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 2: to go to Dak say dad, let's work this contract out. 1201 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 2: He went through Todd Pratt. 1202 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 4: But he also also what he did is he waited 1203 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 4: to the last minute. 1204 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 2: But I'm saying he trying to circumvent like he gonna 1205 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 2: He didn't do that with Tony Romo. He didn't say, hey, Romo, 1206 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden he want to do that 1207 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 2: about it is Mike ain't falling for it. If you 1208 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 2: know Mike. No, he didn't do that with Mike. He 1209 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 2: didn't do that with Mike. He didn't do that with Emmy. 1210 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 2: He didn't do that with Troy. He didn't do that 1211 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 2: with Time. I'm trying to figure out now why he's 1212 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 2: trying to do this. 1213 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 4: If you know Michael personally, he ain't falling for that. 1214 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 4: He's not falling for that now. 1215 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Owens, can I get my birthday shout out? Is 1216 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 2: my twenty ninth birthday? Aaron, Happy twenty ninth. Hopefully you 1217 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 2: did so. I don't know if it was yesterday or 1218 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 2: is it today, because if you're on the East Coast, 1219 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 2: it's today or it was yesterday. 1220 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 3: But whatever the case may. 1221 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 2: Be, hopefully you have a blessed and enjoyable birthday. 1222 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 3: Celebrate many more of these things. 1223 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 2: Hopefully you did something fun got an opportunity to share 1224 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 2: with family, friends and loved ones. So happy birthday, Eron 1225 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 2: and thank you for sporting Nightcap. That completes this episode 1226 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 2: of Nightcap. We want to thank our special guests Tron Armstead, 1227 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 2: the pro bowler. He retired after years in New Orleans 1228 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 2: and Miami. He says, you know what, body just can't 1229 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 2: take it anymore. I got a standard in which I 1230 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 2: played to I can no longer play at that level, 1231 01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 2: and the bear La base now talented. My boy Simba Sam. 1232 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by, man, We really really appreciate that. 1233 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. 1234 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 2: I am your favorite unc Shuton Shark, my partner and 1235 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 2: co host, Liberty Cities owned the guy that's shadow boxing 1236 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 2: pro Bowler all Pro. 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