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Speaker 1: Fresh off the very first day of Card's camp. And

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Speaker 1: so much respect for you know, Bill Belichick. You know

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Speaker 1: I know things that um, you know, it didn't work

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Speaker 1: out the way that you know, the opposed to win

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Speaker 1: at the end, but I got so much respect for him. Man.

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Speaker 1: So if he was a great coach. You know, it's

426
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Speaker 1: like everything that he says, it's right, you know what

427
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't sometimes but like I don't like

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Speaker 1: what he's saying, but he's right right, And I've seen

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Speaker 1: he's got to do some things that, um that I

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Speaker 1: that I never seen coaches do before, you know, spraying

431
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Speaker 1: water on a on a on a snapper, hands wise

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Speaker 1: field goal, uh, making the DBS take their hands up

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Speaker 1: with tennis balls. He's a great coach. I got a

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Speaker 1: number great things to say about Bill Belichick and Robert

435
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Speaker 1: Kraft in the organization, and I appreciate hungry for give

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Speaker 1: me an opportunity. What was the one with the hands

437
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Speaker 1: and the tennis balls? Explained that real quick? Yeah, man, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I guess were grabbing one day and he said, we're

439
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Speaker 1: gonna stop that. So in other words, you had to

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Speaker 1: hold the tennis balls. Now he take to me hand what,

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, man, at this next level, that's that's

442
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Speaker 1: coach Melchers. Oh my goodness. All right, Malcolm Butler, I

443
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Speaker 1: guess wrapping it up here on the big red rage.

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Speaker 1: So from one dog to another, tell us what you've

445
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Speaker 1: seen out of Robert Alford so far because the Cardinals

446
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Speaker 1: are searching for that corner opposite of you, Malcolm. Um,

447
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: you know Robert Alfred, he's he's a he's a good

448
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: he's a good player. Man. He's a he's a he's

449
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: a dog. I think he'll a dog. You know, he's

450
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Speaker 1: a small school guy. You know that had to work

451
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Speaker 1: his way up. Um. I know he about a few

452
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Speaker 1: injurvision and stuff like that, but he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. Made some good plays today. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know he helped me out when I asked some questions.

455
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Speaker 1: And you know Byron Murphy, we got him too. So

456
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: we all working together. It's a collective. Um, it's a

457
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Speaker 1: collective group. And you know if we all on the

458
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: same page, you know we should look good. How do

459
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Speaker 1: you like playing for Vans? Joseph the defensive coordinator right now?

460
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Speaker 1: I like playing for Vans. You know, Um, he liked

461
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Speaker 1: to run multiple defenses. Um, he's a he's a good coach. Man,

462
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: he's a good coach players. Coach. Let me give you

463
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Speaker 1: one stat from last year you played on a defense

464
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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. There was bottom three in sacks the

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Speaker 1: Arios on our Cardinals. Ron Wolfley were top five, Yes,

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Speaker 1: number four total sacks, forty eight sacks. Here we go.

467
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Speaker 1: What can that do? That sort of pass rush? What

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Speaker 1: can that do for you and the DBS? Malcolm, Um,

469
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Speaker 1: quick passes, man um bad throws into our hands. You know,

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Speaker 1: pass rushes everything. You can have a good corner, a

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Speaker 1: great corner, Hall of Fame corner. You ain't got no

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Speaker 1: pass rush. You know you can't cover that long. So

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Speaker 1: um it should help out a lie. You know this

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Speaker 1: might date me a little right here in Malcolm, Okay,

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00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: all right, but do you know what clueing is? Do

476
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Speaker 1: you know what clueing is? Um? Is it a football term? Yeah?

477
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Speaker 1: It's peaking into the backfield clueing. It's like, look at

478
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: it's what you did. I'm that unbelievable play in the

479
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You were looking more at the quarterback right,

480
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: you were peaking. What do you call that when you

481
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: peek inside? Um? I just got a term for that.

482
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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's just a technique, but it's

483
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Speaker 1: just something that I the gang was on the line

484
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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm trying to make a play. But

485
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Speaker 1: I told myself, if it's a run, you know they

486
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: gotta handle that if it's a pass. I'm a hand

487
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: of this. And you know, I just keep looking and

488
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Speaker 1: the wide receivers outside and I just broke. So so

489
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Speaker 1: are you? I mean, do you pass your knowledge along

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Speaker 1: to a Byron Murphy? Do you talk to him about that? Um?

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Speaker 1: Not really something? What you know, I just try to

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Speaker 1: I try to lead by example. Yeah, And like like

493
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Speaker 1: my coach, I always told him, you eat the guy

494
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Speaker 1: to or you don't. Last question for me, for Malcolm Butler,

495
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: the two young guys, the two draft picks. You got

496
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Speaker 1: the fourth rounder, Marco Wilson, you got the sixth rounder,

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Speaker 1: take Allen Man. Those guys look good out there. They

498
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Speaker 1: look good at least in terms of their size, the athleticism.

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Speaker 1: What have you seen so far from the young guys? Um?

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Speaker 1: You know, we usually don't talk about other players, but

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Speaker 1: I really like Marco Man. He's uh, he got nice size,

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Speaker 1: he quick, he fast, UM got nice speed, he can

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Speaker 1: jump run, He's very athletic man. And if he just

504
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: grind it out and you know, work hard, you know

505
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Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be a good player in this league.

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Speaker 1: In the same for Xavier the big guy, he can move, drop,

507
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: Karil Flett drop. You know he can blitz um. Guys

508
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 1: got talent, and I think the Cards did a good

509
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: job picking those guys up. It's amazing thing because I

510
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: hear you say, you know, we don't talk about players

511
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: right there, And you know what's amazing about that. Back

512
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Speaker 1: when I played those rookies, we wouldn't talk too with

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Speaker 1: the rookies. That's right. How dare I ask about rookies?

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00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: You're right, exactly right. That's old school, Malcolm. Are you

515
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: chopping it up with these guys or are you just

516
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: kind of keeping Yours're getting the donuts is what they're doing.

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00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: I say some here now, I'll be talking to Robin

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Speaker 1: Alfred is born in two thousand. That's right, Oh buddy,

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Speaker 1: all right, Malcolm man, we've enjoyed it. Thank you, bud,

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00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: all right, thank you. There you go, Malcolm Butler joining

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Speaker 1: us on the big Red Rage Wolf. What if I

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Speaker 1: told you his coverage grade last year for Tennessee would

523
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Speaker 1: have led the Arizona Cardinals a year ago. Think about

524
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: that not have been a surprise ball, and think about

525
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: the fact he has a dozen playoff games under his belt.

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Speaker 1: So if the Cardinals get where they want to go,

527
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Speaker 1: to the postseason. There's a guy who's been there and

528
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Speaker 1: done that. How many tackles did he have? He had

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Speaker 1: one hundred exactly, Thank you, Baul, appreciate it. Next and

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Speaker 1: next on The Big Red Rage will continue with our

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Speaker 1: Cards Camp Week one edition of Cards Camp Edition, The

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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert shotguns

533
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Speaker 1: half to Kyler Murty from the pocket, deep pass left

534
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Speaker 1: side going for Hopkins, one hand to catch in a touchdown.

535
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins was blanketed by a Jet, but it don't matter.

536
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Speaker 1: Hopkins makes the catch and the Cardinals man just put

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Speaker 1: the Jets to sleep. Oh can you taste it right there?

538
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Maybe the fifty fifty balls to the left of Kyler

539
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: Murray and a perfect pass the hop that is big

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Speaker 1: time with a one hand snack, perhaps the best ball

541
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Speaker 1: around receiver in the NFL. Great hands, great vision, great speed, playmaker.

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Speaker 1: Make a play. That's exactly what happened right there. That

543
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Speaker 1: was a key play in the Week five win at

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Speaker 1: the Jets thirty to ten. Cardinals. Get the way Kyler

545
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Speaker 1: Murray and up your NFC Offensive Player of the Week

546
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: went twenty seven to thirty seven. Three eighty had that

547
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: touchdown there the thirty seven yard strike a passer rating

548
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: to one oh four. He had a rushing touchdown as well.

549
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: Kyler was out there today, same with DeAndre Hopkins. It

550
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

551
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: We are santan Ford, Paul kelbc, Ron Wolfley after day

552
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: one of Cardinal's camp at least out on that field.

553
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: And well, if you're takeaways from Malcolm Butler, you know,

554
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: how about the propster coach Belichick. One thing you guys

555
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: have in common. You both played for Belichick, and in

556
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Speaker 1: his words, it was a great way to say said,

557
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Speaker 1: you know what, you don't always like what he's telling you,

558
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Speaker 1: but he's always right. Yeah, quote unquote that's what he

559
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: said about Belichick. Yeah. I wouldn't say he's always right bell.

560
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, but he's got his opinions, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Listen, It's interesting you start there

562
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Speaker 1: because that's exactly my number one takeaway from that talk

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Speaker 1: that we had with Malcolm Butler, because of Bill Belichick.

564
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Speaker 1: What does it say when a player really gets along

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Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick and respects him. Number One, he's a

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Speaker 1: dog that's not a surprise. That's exactly what Malcolm Butler is.

567
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Speaker 1: He's a dog meeting. He's he's a self motivated individual.

568
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Speaker 1: He's a guy that a coach doesn't need to ride.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that you don't have to be rate

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Speaker 1: in order to get him to do his job. He's

571
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Speaker 1: a self motivated, self starter type guy. He's a dog.

572
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: Not only that he takes pride in doing his job

573
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Speaker 1: that it tells me that that's who Malcolm Butler is.

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Speaker 1: He takes a lot of pride in that polly. He

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Speaker 1: lives for the details. Because Bill Belichick is a detailed guy.

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Speaker 1: Walk in and talk about some guy in a certain situation,

577
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Speaker 1: a down in distance, walk into the room and say,

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Speaker 1: if you get this look, this is what is going

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Speaker 1: to happen on a single play. Bill Belichick would walk

580
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Speaker 1: in and tell you exactly what was going to happen there.

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Speaker 1: The details are important to Bill, and the details are

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Speaker 1: important to Malcolm Butler, and he doesn't need words of affirmation.

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Speaker 1: If you get along with Bill Belichick and you like

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Speaker 1: playing for Bill Belichick and you respect him the way

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler said, you know what, you don't need words

586
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: of affirmation because you don't get it from Bill. I

587
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: love his story of how he made the Patriots. That

588
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: along with the draft class, they had a rookie minicamp

589
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: and there were forty undrafted guys they brought in. Two

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00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: made the team, one of which is Malcolm Butler. And

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Speaker 1: here he is as an Arizona Cardinal nine seasons later,

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Speaker 1: at thirty one years of age, with a Super Bowl ring,

593
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Speaker 1: and there is going to be in Week one going

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Speaker 1: against maybe their number one receiving duo in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: at least if you believe some of the headlines you

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Speaker 1: saw in the offseason with Julio Jones and aj Browne.

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00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: And so now the Cardinals question is, all right, how

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Speaker 1: did he get to that point? How did they get

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00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: to the point where the Titans are gonna ender that

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Speaker 1: Week one game? Having led the NFL since twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: and touchdowns and plays of fifty plus yards and red

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Speaker 1: zone TD percentage and rushing touchdowns. That's the sort of

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: juggernaut this Titans offense has been the last two years.

604
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: And Cliff Kingsbury was asked about that the next step

605
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: not just for his offense, but for his quarterback, Kyler Murray.

606
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Speaker 1: You know, I think, more than anything, just consistency and

607
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: everything we do. You know, he obviously got banged up

608
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: a little bit last year and that was tough, but

609
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Speaker 1: he battled through, and I just think all of us

610
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: as an offense coaching staff have to continue to be

611
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Speaker 1: consistent everything we do, and if he does that, he'll

612
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Speaker 1: continue to get better. What do you think, Wolf, do

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Speaker 1: you have a checklist on Kyler what you'd really like

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Speaker 1: to see this season? Yeah, Paulie, honestly I would. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you'd like to see him get more consistent, There's no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. But I think, Paul, there's a big

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Speaker 1: tangible area in an intangible area where I want to

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Speaker 1: see him get better. The intangible is something that he's

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Speaker 1: already been talking about this offseason. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: things that really encourages me, the fact that Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: is already identified he needs to be a better leader. Paul.

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Speaker 1: That is so important that he's able to actually point

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Speaker 1: at that and say, this is what I need to

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Speaker 1: do in order to get better. I need to be

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Speaker 1: a better leader. Because once you can identify it as

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Speaker 1: a human being, forget about being a professional football player,

627
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: forget about being a franchise quarterback as a human being,

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Speaker 1: if you can point to the obstacle in your way,

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Speaker 1: that need that you need to be able to overcome

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Speaker 1: in order to get better. Man, that is so important,

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Speaker 1: and he's already identified leadership as that obstacle. Leadership is

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Speaker 1: where he thinks he needs to get better, and he

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Speaker 1: is right. That is the intangible. He's got to get better.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be the face of the franchise always.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be talking to his players, talking to

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Speaker 1: his line, talking to his wide receivers, talking to the

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Speaker 1: running backs, talking to the coaches on the sideline, talking

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Speaker 1: to them and encouraging them in regard to what they're

639
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Speaker 1: doing on the field, some of the plays that they're running,

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00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: the adjustments they need to make. He's got to be

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Speaker 1: talking a little bit more. He's got to be the

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Speaker 1: face of the franchise on and off the field. Leadership

643
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: is the intangible. The tangible is just reading defenses better

644
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: and becoming more sure in his reads, going through his

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Speaker 1: progressions and making good decisions. That's the tangible. Because remember

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Speaker 1: what Sam Acho told us, who's now one of the

647
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Speaker 1: ESPN analysts, And congrats to Sam the former Cardinals outside linebacker,

648
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: and he told us this offseason, you're on the big

649
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: red rage. That's what teams will do. It's exactly what

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Speaker 1: they did with Russell Wilson. Force him to go through

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00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: his reads, keep them in the pocket, yes, make him

652
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Speaker 1: beat him with what's between his ears to be able

653
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Speaker 1: to read and react and diagnose a defense. So you

654
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Speaker 1: have that and look, well, something was wrong down the

655
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Speaker 1: stretch a year ago the XS and os. Maybe, okay,

656
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Speaker 1: we can talk about that. But when you come out

657
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Speaker 1: in Week sixteen with the playoffs on the line at

658
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: home against the Niners team with third string quarterbacks CJ.

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00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Bethard and a third string running back named Jeff Wilson

660
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: who ran for a buck eighty three, Yeah, you know

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00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: that's where a leadership, to me comes into play and

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00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: you prevent that sort of letdown. You know, when you

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Speaker 1: lead the league in penalties for example. In fact, Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury was menting that here today, listen up. Offensively, we

665
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Speaker 1: led the league install drives due to penalty and that's

666
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: I think we're a top six offense. And had we

667
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: not done that, who knows what it could have been.

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Speaker 1: You know that that's a lot of drives to give

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Speaker 1: up throughout an NFL season with limited possessions, so there's

670
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: no questions. Little things we'd happen every day that we

671
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: gotta get better at. And look, the coaches take the

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Speaker 1: blame and Cliff Kingsbury did the same. But if it's

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Speaker 1: a pre snap penalty, to what degree is that on

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Speaker 1: the players? Bawl? Yeah, Paul. First of all, it's all

675
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: on the players. It is. I don't care you get

676
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: hit for a holding call, that's on you, all right. Yeah,

677
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: the off side discipline is so important. It's interesting because

678
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Speaker 1: we started this beautiful part of the program with you

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Speaker 1: asking me, you know what's a Bill Belichick and you

680
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: know Malcolm Butler? What what does that say about Malcolm Butler?

681
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: We were talking about this very thing. The other thing

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Speaker 1: that I forgot to mention is Bill Belichick love guys,

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Speaker 1: PAULI that commit penalties. Guy, Guys that were disciplined, Guys

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Speaker 1: that didn't go out there and take shortcuts, put himself

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Speaker 1: in a bad position where suddenly they had to hold

686
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman or as a dB a bad technique,

687
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: using a jam technique and then missing on that jam

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Speaker 1: and then having to hold and get a penalty on

689
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Speaker 1: that he liked guys that didn't get flagged for penalties,

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Speaker 1: guys that were disciplined. And it's interesting because nobody knows

691
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Speaker 1: that better than Cliff Kingsbury. I think Cliff this year,

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Speaker 1: if there's one area I think he's really going to

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Speaker 1: improve with, it's gonna be the Hey, listen, you know what,

694
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: Your playing time is going to be greatly impacted if

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00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: you commit penalties. You know, I did this Seattle thing

696
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Speaker 1: earlier in the week. I looked at one of the

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Speaker 1: game summaries Cardinals at Seattle. That game they lost. Remember

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Speaker 1: there was the brutal Drake Kirkpatrick flagrant foul penalty where

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Speaker 1: they had a stop on thirsty team continue to drop.

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Speaker 1: In addition to that, there were four false start penalties

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Speaker 1: against the Cardinals offensive line. Wolf there were no fans

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Speaker 1: in the stands yea, the place false start field was

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00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: empty and the Cardinals committed four false starts as an

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: offensive line in the game. That's the kind of inexcusable stuff,

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00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: brutal ball. And by the way, when they bring into

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson and he wasn't flagged for a single penalty

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and the man hasn't had a false start.

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Speaker 1: Write this down possible and knock on wood since two

709
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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen. The new starting center. Two time pro

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Speaker 1: bowler Rodney Hudson has not been flagged for a false

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Speaker 1: start since two thousand and sixteen. There's a cause and

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00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: effect there when Steve Kim made that trade. We wrap

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Speaker 1: up the Big Red Race presented by Santan Born and Gilbert. Next,

714
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Speaker 1: it's a run play right inside the Big Hole Edmonds

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Speaker 1: twenty five twenty ten five touchdown the inside zone being

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Speaker 1: run and Chase Edmond's farm. The hole, if to the house,

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00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: Baby gives it to Connor, sweeps the left side, got

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Speaker 1: him at the tam Connor to the five into the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: James Cotter explosive. Just the weapons that we have, Chase

720
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Speaker 1: doing this thing already, and so you know, watching film,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, just do he can he can ball

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Speaker 1: And I want to, you know, learn from him, be

723
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Speaker 1: a part of it, get to work with him. You know,

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Speaker 1: I ain't no telling, I can't predict not him, but

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00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: I know I can guarantee I'm gonna come in here

726
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: and work the day in and day out from my

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00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: head down to grind and you know, I'm in it

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Speaker 1: for the long cost. So seventeen game season, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it. And it's James Conner on the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: array of weapons, the offensive potential two twenty one, a

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Speaker 1: two headed running game. Perhaps we'll see that's all being

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Speaker 1: decided over the next month. Cardinals Campus underway. We're wrapping

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Speaker 1: up this edition carts Camp edition of Big Red Rage,

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Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Satan Ford,

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Speaker 1: Paul kalbc Ron Wolfley Special thanks again to our guest earlier,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler. Wolf When you look at the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, and I know you had your eyes

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Speaker 1: on the backfield today, number six, James Conner, and the

739
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: stakeaway is Okay, there's the big back, the big back

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals now have at their disposal, whether it's third

741
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: and short, whether it's inside the five. You just you

742
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: can't help but daydream as you're watching Cardinals practice, even

743
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: though the pads aren't going to come on for another

744
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: half week or so, But just thinking of the possibilities

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Speaker 1: with a big back like James Connor. Yeah, six one

746
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Speaker 1: two thirty two, Paul, how's that taste right there? You know?

747
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Speaker 1: And I love that. I love the fact that they're

748
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Speaker 1: going to run some inside zone with him. Hopefully they're

749
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Speaker 1: going to run some tackle zone with him as well.

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Speaker 1: But I think in terms of training camp, in some

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Speaker 1: of the position battles, I do believe James Conner and

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds. Yes, you're gonna use both these guys, we

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Speaker 1: know that, But I wonder what that rep ratio is

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Speaker 1: going to be, Paul, Is it going to be more

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00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds? Is it going to be more James Conner?

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Speaker 1: You and I have been talking about this. I don't

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00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: know what that rep ratio is going to be. But

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Speaker 1: I think as the offense evolves in as preseason unfolds,

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00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: I think we'll get a better idea. Could it be

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Speaker 1: that Chase Edmonds is your guy between the twenties and

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Speaker 1: then here comes James Connor once you get into the

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Speaker 1: red zone. Could it be that Chase Edmonds gets the

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Speaker 1: bulk of the touches the first three quarters and then

764
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when you want to wear down a defense,

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Speaker 1: especially if you have a lead, then you bring in

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Speaker 1: the big, bruising back, James Connor. Yeah, Polly, it could

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Speaker 1: be something that elementary. It could, but It's going to

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see the way they divvy that up.

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Speaker 1: And not only that, when James Connor is in there, Polly,

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Speaker 1: what is the run pass ratio? When Chase Edmonds is

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Speaker 1: in there? Polly, what is the run pass ratio? Because

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Speaker 1: this is what defensive coordinators do. They just break you

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Speaker 1: down by personnel groups, by formation, Paul, they break everything down.

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Speaker 1: And what kind of tendencies do you have, because everyone's

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00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: looking for tendencies. That's going to be an interesting tendency

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Speaker 1: to watch. What do they do when James Connor's in there,

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Speaker 1: and what do they do when Chase Edmonds in there?

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Speaker 1: And how much does that differ from each other? Cliff

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00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Kingsbury was asked. In fact, I followed up and asked

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Speaker 1: him today just about some of those position battles, and

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00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, where does he think those are going to

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00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: play out and what questions does he want answered by

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00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: the time he gets to the end of camp. Here's

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Speaker 1: the head coach. Every position to me, each year is

785
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: a new battle, you know, to see who steps up,

786
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: who kind of grabs the starting role and runs with it.

787
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: We get some great young guys who we think have

788
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: a chance to really step up and you know, make

789
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: the roster and make an impact. But every position group

790
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: this year has been upgraded, and so I'm interested to

791
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: see how it kind of plays out beyond running back Wolf.

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Speaker 1: Where are you looking? Right guard, the corner opposite Malcolm Butler?

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Speaker 1: Would you say those are the next biggest and best

794
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: position battles? Yeah? For me right now, I don't think

795
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Speaker 1: there's going to be a position battle the corner opposite

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Speaker 1: of Malcolm Butler. If Robert Alfred is healthy, If he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything such as a position battle.

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Speaker 1: That's just me Paul. Even watching him today make plays,

799
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: he was once again really really good. Now granted it's practice,

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Speaker 1: I understand that, but very very impressed with Robert Alfred.

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Speaker 1: I would have to say right guard reich guard be

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00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: on a shadow of a doubt. I think Justin Murray,

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00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: of course, Brian Winters, the guy they signed from the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and brought him in, a grizzled veteran, a

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00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: guy that's a mall or a guy that's a slug

806
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: fest guy. At reich guard, I think that is going

807
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: to be a big battle with Justin. Maybe maybe you

808
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: throw in Josh Jones into the mix, even though I

809
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: still think he's more a candidate to play on the edge,

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00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: play left tackle, play right tackle. Somewhere in there, Josh

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Speaker 1: Jones is a guy that maybe they want to get

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Speaker 1: him reps and they move him in at that Reich guard.

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Speaker 1: I don't know defensively, how much is Lucky Foe too

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00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: gonna play or how much is We're Shard Lawrence going

815
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: to play Pollie? What is their rep ratio going to be? Like?

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Speaker 1: Right there? This is these are all things. It's not

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Speaker 1: just about who starts and who doesn't start. It's also

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00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: who gets the vast majority of reps as well. So

819
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: it's playing time that a lot of these guys are competing.

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Speaker 1: And having said that, it made me think of today

821
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Speaker 1: and just watching AJ Green go out there and run. Polly.

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Speaker 1: I'm listen, We're not going to say anything about AJ Green.

823
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: This is a guy that has proven he is one

824
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: of the best receivers in the National Football League when

825
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: he is healthy. He's done that for years. He is

826
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: getting a little long in the tooth. But I will

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Speaker 1: tell you right now, I saw this guy and I

828
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: was shocked at how well he ran. That's what everyone

829
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: told you he's slowing down. He's slowing You know what, paul,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see a guy slowing down. I don't know

831
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Speaker 1: about you, but I saw him run today. And guess what.

832
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Speaker 1: There's a need for aj Green on this team. DeAndre

833
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: Hopkins had one hundred and sixty targets. He had thirty

834
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Speaker 1: four percent of the receiving yards in that receiving room,

835
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Speaker 1: which is the highest percentage of any receiver in any team.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins line up on the left side according to

837
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Next Gen Stats, ninety one percent of the time. So

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00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsberry needs some more options at receiver. He needs

839
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Speaker 1: guys who will get yards after catch and other than

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and Chase Edmonds. There was very little of

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Speaker 1: that last year, No, Paula, you're right about that. Again.

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