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Speaker 2: The World's a Vigeonal podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I am so proud of them. Why are you proud?

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Speaker 3: I'm like children, but but I really am proud of you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the very first.

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Speaker 2: Who am I even? I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 4: I would say he's a little better than Evan makes

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Speaker 4: him out to be, but not a time I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting. I would just see White's fit after

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 4: He's always got He's always got cool being unhipped.

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Speaker 2: Are they glizzies? What's that?

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Speaker 5: Glizzie?

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Speaker 6: It's just another name for it.

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Speaker 2: Who gave you that name? I just picture Paul on

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Speaker 2: the Yeah, on the Renegade motion sofa and that kind

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Speaker 2: of go berserk. It's like this, watching the game and

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Speaker 2: die over the place the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at you Let's Stadium. We're talking Patriots for the next

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Speaker 2: couple hours and whatever else comes to mind. It's Paul,

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Speaker 2: it's me, Deuce, We'll be here, Evan will be here.

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Speaker 2: They're in the locker room right now. Yes, talking to

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Speaker 2: the guys.

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Speaker 4: Finished. We heard from Gerrodmeo, Jacoby Brissett, David Andrews had

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Speaker 4: come in. That's when I left to come to see you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I think that they were heading into the locker

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Speaker 4: room after that. But I just love that. I love

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Speaker 4: the open today. It's just like, you know, one win,

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Speaker 4: completely changed, Like we're all smiling, laughing. It really does,

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Speaker 4: you know, talking about the guy's fit. Glizzies, you're the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: You're how proud you are of your children.

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Speaker 2: Your shows are all positive. It's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: One day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's we're back to Homerville. But that's fine. It's

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Speaker 2: one week. We got another challenge coming up with the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday is the turn the page day. It's typically under Belichick,

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Speaker 2: and I assume under Gerard it's the same thing. This

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Speaker 2: is the day that they get their game plan. It's

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Speaker 2: the you know, the day where they find out how

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Speaker 2: are they going to attack the Seattle Seahawks and what

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Speaker 2: what can they expect from the Seahawks.

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Speaker 8: Early today, you know tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I know they're going to be in pads today, so

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe you'll get some some goal lines to

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway, this is the day that

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Speaker 2: they start preparing for the Seattle Seahawks in terms of

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Speaker 2: the players. So what do you think? I mean, we

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Speaker 2: we talked about Week one and two are the toughest

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Speaker 2: the season when you don't know who's playing. But Seahawks

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Speaker 2: had a good game last week. They I picked the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: I was wrong.

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Speaker 4: You know, they were okay, they were a little sloppy,

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Speaker 4: than it was on the field, if that makes any sense.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think there's a lot of similarities, you know,

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Speaker 4: They want to play defense, both teams. They want to

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Speaker 4: I would say that one thing that Seattle has at

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Speaker 2: What They've got some talent on offense they do.

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Speaker 4: He had a leaf. Didn't play anything in the last

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm thinking, you know, even though you got

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Speaker 4: It'll definitely be more in a challenge. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Something was wrong there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think in retrospect, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: trying to make excuses for you know, you got it right.

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Speaker 4: I said that to you yesterday and I got it wrong.

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Speaker 4: But I think I personally underestimated the amount of drama

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Speaker 4: he's irritated having a play Trey Hendrickson, you know, wanted

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Speaker 4: But if you're Jamar Chase and you see like T

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Speaker 4: gonna do the same thing to me next year? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just wonder what that franchise if for different reasons,

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Speaker 4: I heard someone say this about Joe Burrow is going

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's been beaten up like he has.

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Speaker 2: Injuries, I said, for different reasons like but I don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like that they can't get out of their

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Speaker 2: Only bad things can happen to them, all right, So

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Speaker 4: You know, like like two years ago, Reminder Stevenson had

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Speaker 4: Mirander Stevenson's a pretty good player when he's healthy, right,

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Speaker 4: One of the things that like, like, you know, like crutches. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: You know guys that that were.

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Speaker 2: But let's face it, you know, this offense didn't deserve

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying Stevenson has been no I like one

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Speaker 2: The lone folk point. Well, I think we said all

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Speaker 4: And I think that it's like nothing that happened Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, So how do you think the Patriots will

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Speaker 8: They need to be balanced.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots, and he will make mistakes. So you know,

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Speaker 4: Don't bother me if you make place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they are gonna have to worry about his legs.

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Speaker 4: He will run, Yeah, He's not really a huge run.

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Speaker 8: Doesn't have a feel for this one yet.

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Speaker 2: Just saving if it takes a little bit of time,

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Speaker 2: I have to my field develops over the course of

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Speaker 8: Know, fair point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna mock you not have to picking

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So eight five five, Pat's five hundred is the TPX hotline.

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Speaker 2: Web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address,

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Speaker 2: so we might as well get right to you. Your

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Speaker 2: calls and emails. Will start off the calling with Sean

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Speaker 2: and Vancouver on the TPX houtline.

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Speaker 10: What's up, Sean, Hey, Fred, I have a few things.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Sean, muzzle tough already and I'm here.

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Speaker 10: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, turn that up? Yeah, Hello, yeah, we can

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Speaker 2: hear I just want to turn up the volume. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So ahead, Sean, yep.

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Speaker 10: First of all, muzzle Tough on calling that that score.

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Speaker 10: I think you and Pat and aguan On are the

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Speaker 10: only one who got that right. So that's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 10: And there's just a few things. One thing I wanted

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Speaker 10: to say is I'm really happy that Bentley taking over

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Speaker 10: the duties from Slater in terms of the post game cheer.

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Speaker 10: I mean, that's a good tradition with the linebackers leading

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Speaker 10: the team, going back to Bruski and then Mayo and

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Speaker 10: now Bentley having a strong captain role, which I appreciate.

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Speaker 11: La.

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Speaker 12: I don't know if you if you.

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Speaker 10: Saw the Tostitos ads with Brady and Edelman, which I

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Speaker 10: thought was fun. I don't know if you've got a

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Speaker 10: chance to see that one yet. And the other thing

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Speaker 10: I want to talk about is the game coming up.

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Speaker 10: I was watching the Seattle Broncos game after the Patriots game,

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Speaker 10: and I noticed something that's kind of interesting. Seattle really

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Speaker 10: didn't do anything offensively in the first half, but on

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Speaker 10: the second half they were able to take advantage of

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Speaker 10: the safety movement. So when the safeties were playing back,

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Speaker 10: they ran the ball and Kenth Walker had a great

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Speaker 10: game in the second half, and then when they came

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Speaker 10: in to the box, they were able to pass and

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Speaker 10: they saw that. So I think in this game, Pepper's

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Speaker 10: and Duggar have to like just have some movement pre

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Speaker 10: snap to try and him a little bit. Also, offensively,

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Speaker 10: I'd like to see the Patriots take a couple of

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Speaker 10: shots downfield on play actions. So that's all I got.

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Speaker 10: I'll take it off there.

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Speaker 2: Thanksbo Okay, thanks for the call. Sean. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: he mentioned linebackers with the h it was Slater the

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Speaker 2: last few years, that's what he said.

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Speaker 4: But he's not a linebacker, no, but he said he'd

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Speaker 4: liked to see him taking it over for Slater back

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Speaker 4: to the linebub.

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Speaker 2: Back to the linebackers.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I'm Sean's right, like, and I just that

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Speaker 4: was my because I didn't see much of the first half.

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Speaker 4: I just saw like little highlights here and there as

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Speaker 4: we were watching while we were doing postgame. I did

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Speaker 4: see most of the second half that they showed, and

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Speaker 4: I didn't really I wasn't overly impressed offensively with anything Seattle.

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Speaker 4: Did you know. They racked up some points eventually, but

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Speaker 4: to me, it was more product of the other team

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Speaker 4: just not being able to do anything offensively, putting him

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Speaker 4: in good situations and they were able to take advantage.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a good win for Seattle, Like

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Speaker 4: I think that's a game that you need to win

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Speaker 4: at home against Denver with a rookie quarterback in the opener.

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Speaker 4: But you know that does mean I don't give him

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Speaker 4: any credit for it. I thought it was a good,

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Speaker 4: solid win for them.

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Speaker 2: Gonzo's role in this game, do you think you'll see

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Speaker 2: him a lot one on one with Metcalf.

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Speaker 4: Or that's how I would you know, this is another one.

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Speaker 4: You know, the after show yesterday, Evan and I as

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Speaker 4: we were walking back, I was like, I mean, it

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Speaker 4: kind of would make sense to have Gonzales with Metcalf

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Speaker 4: and Jonathan Jones with Lockett and then deal with Jackson

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Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba, you know with the rest quote unquote.

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously it starts with Marcus Jones, but the

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Speaker 4: safeties are involved, and you might have more corners involved

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Speaker 4: in this game because they do have three receivers, whereas

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati only had a half of one. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think they had a little bit of chase and

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Speaker 4: that was it. So you are going to probably have

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Speaker 4: to do things a little bit differently in the second

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Speaker 4: and I'll be curious to see if they stick with

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Speaker 4: you know, the sort of Jalen Hawkins back and because

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Speaker 4: it was kind of GTFB, you know, they made sure

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Speaker 4: everything stayed in front of them, and then they would

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Speaker 4: really sound because they were swarming to the ball and tackling.

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Speaker 2: They were their first step was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just on the surface, I think it

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Speaker 4: makes sense Gonzales' size matches up with Metcalf. They don't

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Speaker 4: throw the ball to Metcalf a whole lot. I think

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Speaker 4: you only had like sixty five catches last year. He's

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Speaker 4: not a volume guy, so you know this, this could

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Speaker 4: be one of those games. If you can sort of

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Speaker 4: mitigate Lockett, then I think you'd be all right with

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Speaker 4: the passing game, okay, and make sure that Metcalf doesn't

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Speaker 4: hit you for big plays.

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Speaker 2: Sean mentioned the score and predictions. I just I can't believe.

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Speaker 2: We did that Madden sim before last game and it

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Speaker 2: predicted the score seventeen to ten, Patriots winning.

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Speaker 4: So it was wrong.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're gonna they did another one. And I

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Speaker 2: told him I don't want to know what the score is.

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Speaker 2: I want to be surprised, so I don't know how

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Speaker 2: it came out.

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Speaker 4: I turned into a child. I think I don't want

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Speaker 4: to know. I think it don't tell me.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fun.

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Speaker 8: It is fun.

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Speaker 4: That's why I don't understand why you don't want to know.

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Speaker 2: So this could be a thing. I hope that this

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Speaker 2: Madden thing is close every week.

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Speaker 4: So you don't want it. You don't want to know,

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Speaker 4: because if it's.

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Speaker 2: Right the other way, and I don't want it to

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Speaker 2: cloud my judgment or spoil my day.

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Speaker 8: What am I doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Even Matt's rolling his eyes.

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Speaker 2: That's a big Madden guy.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you all fair what the score was, Paul.

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Speaker 4: He knows enough to know that someone will have to

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Speaker 4: tell me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right. I hope that they're not, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: putting their thumb on the scale either. I hope they

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Speaker 2: just let it play out.

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Speaker 7: I can honestly say they are not. They pop that

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Speaker 7: thing on all Madden and sit back and let the

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Speaker 7: computer do.

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Speaker 2: It good, good, good, because I want it to be

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Speaker 2: a true so true sim.

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Speaker 4: All right, if we're going to really talk about this,

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Speaker 4: like it has some relevance, So I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't play Madden. I don't pretend to know Madden.

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Speaker 4: So you put it in a sim? Did it play

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Speaker 4: the personnel that was available?

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Speaker 7: So they they played this week's game with the roster

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Speaker 7: that played in the Bengals game?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 8: Like, so like, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So they played Cincinnati with all the guys that they

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Speaker 4: didn't have.

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Speaker 7: I have to I'm talking about the Seahawks game that

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Speaker 7: they just simmed yesterday for next week, they used the

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Speaker 7: lineup of that played everybody that was actually.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati was a Cincinnati game taken to account, like.

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Speaker 8: T Higgins in or out?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, Chase in or out

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Speaker 4: or like Walker? Right, is even this game Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 4: in or out?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 4: I think Kenneth Walker is going to be in. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know that for sure.

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Speaker 8: I'd be curious.

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Speaker 4: Today's a day that obviously we get some injury updates

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Speaker 4: and whatnot. But yeah, I to me, I find it

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Speaker 4: strange that the sim would have had the Patriots beating

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Speaker 4: a full strength Cincinnati because, like I would think, a

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Speaker 4: sim doesn't take into account any of the intangibles unless

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Speaker 4: I don't, Like I said, I don't.

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Speaker 7: Know, Madden like an effort to find the answer.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati is not going to like as as an example,

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Speaker 4: ESPN does that Football Power Index thing, yep, right, Well,

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Speaker 4: the Bengals had like a sixty something percent chance to win.

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Speaker 4: I think it was sixty eight percent chance. It was

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Speaker 4: a very high percent. They were the biggest spread of

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Speaker 4: the week. That's not taken into account any intangibles. It's

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Speaker 4: it's just going strictly off of personnel right, and Madals

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Speaker 4: had had the Bengals having an overwhelming chance to win.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just curious if the sim for Madden is

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Speaker 4: the same or if they are able they have the

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Speaker 4: ability to take those guys out that weren't expected to play.

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Speaker 2: Because I imagine it takes in to count all their

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Speaker 2: Madden ratings and all that stuff.

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Pat Naguam writes in he says,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to know how important you rank getting pressure

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Speaker 2: on Gino Smith this Sunday and not letting him get

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Speaker 2: into rhythm. Even if the secondary plays great. This is

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Speaker 2: a great group with Metcalf, Lockett and Smith Smith the jigbu.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to make plays regardless of how

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Speaker 2: good the coverage is. So pressuring Gino is paramount to

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Speaker 2: me and should be one of the keys to the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. And their offensive lines and shambles already.

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Speaker 4: Seattle's they're down three tackles, and I think that's an

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Speaker 4: area that they can exploit a little bit. But I

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Speaker 4: would put that behind stopping the run because that's what

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Speaker 4: Seattle wants to do and If Seattle's able to get

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Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker going and they can throw when they want

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Speaker 4: to instead of when they have to, then obviously that

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Speaker 4: makes the job easier protecting him. But Pat's right, Cousin, Patty,

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Speaker 4: I think you need to get some heat because you

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Speaker 4: can't just cover. You can't just cover against quality receivers.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Trevor in Revere, right, Sin, do you know how

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks run defense compared to the Bengals. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to gauge if the same offensive performance by the Patriots

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Speaker 2: against the Seahawks would produce similar results. Obviously we'd hope

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Speaker 2: for a bit more in the passing game, but I

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Speaker 2: imagine the coaching staff would love to play conservative and

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Speaker 2: focus on the run if the game allows it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Last year, like I said, Seattle was bad against

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Speaker 4: the run. In the first game, they were pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if this is a sign of

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Speaker 4: improvement or if they got a good opponent or what,

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Speaker 4: but I would say they're gonna need a lot more

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Speaker 4: than what they got. Yeah, you know, like a repeat

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Speaker 4: of what they did against Cincinnati isn't gonna be good

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Speaker 4: enough to win most games.

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Speaker 8: That's and I know that I'm in the minority.

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Speaker 4: I guess, you know, well, a lot of a lot

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Speaker 4: of our colleagues, a lot of our colleagues are like,

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Speaker 4: you know that they can if they play that same game,

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Speaker 4: you know, all year, they're gonna be in the playoff hunt.

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Speaker 4: I think if they play that same game all year,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be hard pressed to win final games.

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Speaker 2: But if they give up ten points every week, But

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Speaker 2: that's not I know, but I know.

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Speaker 4: The same I'm talking about if if you play the

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Speaker 4: same way, like you can play really good defense and

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Speaker 4: still give up twenty four points. Yeah, yeah, like the

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Speaker 4: guy doesn't fumble going into the end zone and the

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Speaker 4: game is totally different. It's true, right, this is what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. And that's not like I know, and the

657
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Speaker 4: other team. You can't expect the other team to play

658
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Speaker 4: that badly, right, Like I know that the Patriots had

659
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Speaker 4: a lot to do with Cincinnati's offense not looking good

660
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Speaker 4: because the Patriots defense was outstanding.

661
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was some turmoil.

662
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Speaker 4: But there are good offenses that are gonna overcome your

663
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Speaker 4: good defense at times. Cincinnati really didn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Trevor also says, a handsome one I'd like Matt little

665
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Speaker 2: postgame suggestion. I'd like Matt on the postgame show so far,

666
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Speaker 2: but someone has to tell him that the Good, the

667
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: Bad and the Injured isn't a race against the clock.

668
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Speaker 4: So I've had to talk with the Matt a little

669
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: bit twice. Now we do not, Yeah, the ever repeat

670
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Speaker 4: after the preseason game. And then I said it again

671
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: during the show, The Good and the Bad and the

672
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: Injured is only interrupted by the player interview, right, Mike.

673
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: When after a win, when we get a call and

674
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Speaker 4: unfortunately we had some cell issues this week with Kyle Dugger.

675
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 4: But after a win, we get a call from a player,

676
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Speaker 4: and sometimes that comes in the middle of Good, Bad

677
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: and the Injured. We stop, obviously whatever we're doing when

678
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Speaker 4: the player is on the line and we talk to him.

679
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Speaker 4: Otherwise we do not take calls and we do not

680
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Speaker 4: do emails during Good and the Bad and the Injured. Yeah,

681
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Speaker 4: we never got to the We never really got to anything.

682
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Speaker 2: Let me ask a question on the player thing. For

683
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Speaker 2: home games, are you guys on soon enough? Where if

684
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Speaker 2: the guy just walked off the field in his pads,

685
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Speaker 2: he could be a guest in the studio.

686
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Speaker 4: We're on immediately after the game. Should we try to

687
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Speaker 4: do that, we would be in here before the players

688
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Speaker 4: are off the field. I would think. I don't know.

689
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know they know my answer. They go

690
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Speaker 2: off the far end and we're over here.

691
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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's true, but I don't know.

692
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Speaker 2: That would be cool, right, just come right off the field,

693
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Speaker 2: sit here in your pads, you know.

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Speaker 13: I like it.

695
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be a good visual.

696
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, put on Deuce is here, I'm here and he

697
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Speaker 2: just came from here.

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Speaker 4: That would mean I could take the segment off. I mean,

699
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Speaker 4: that's a time from the locker room in he goes

700
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Speaker 4: into the locker room and sad because it's all his jingle.

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Speaker 13: This is I get.

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Speaker 4: Back all right?

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Speaker 2: Was that an AI matter or that that's AI Okay?

704
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Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah. Yeah.

705
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Speaker 14: It was a bustling day down there in the locker room.

706
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Speaker 14: It seems almost different than last week, though. It seems

707
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Speaker 14: like there's just so much more going on. I feel

708
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Speaker 14: like a little bit of throwback my first year twenty nineteen,

709
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Speaker 14: when it was different scrums going on at the same time,

710
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Speaker 14: people doing one on ones. It was, you know, the

711
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 14: last couple of years, it's always been one person's talking

712
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Speaker 14: everyone from right to that person, no real side conversations

713
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Speaker 14: going on, and now.

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Speaker 5: It's just is a.

715
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Speaker 14: Bunch of activity going on everywhere because there's just some

716
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Speaker 14: more guys in the locker room, I think, so, I

717
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Speaker 14: mean everybody getting ready for practice, but I mean Laydon Robinson,

718
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Speaker 14: he's like he's like the mayor over there.

719
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Speaker 5: I mean, everybody wants to talk to Laydon Robinson.

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Speaker 14: I know, I don't know if that's a great thing

721
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 14: as a rookie, where just person after person after person

722
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Speaker 14: coming up to him before the locker room. But but yeah, no,

723
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Speaker 14: pretty good, pretty good mood, pretty good mood. It's say,

724
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Speaker 14: it felt like a Wednesday, ready to you know, put

725
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Speaker 14: the Bengals win behind them and move on to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: What did you talk to?

727
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Speaker 14: I talked to Joe. I talked to Brendan Schooler a

728
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Speaker 14: little bit. I was asking him about as if he

729
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Speaker 14: got any you know, award for breaking twenty two miles

730
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Speaker 14: an hour since everyone was talking about that. But no,

731
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Speaker 14: just to her from Pop Douglas, Christian Gonzalez another one.

732
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Speaker 14: He talks so, like I said, there's just so much

733
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Speaker 14: going on here you kind of have to pick your spots.

734
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Speaker 5: So but yeah, everybody.

735
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Speaker 14: Everybody seems pretty focused on on the Seahawks here as

736
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Speaker 14: we get into Wednesday.

737
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Speaker 2: So, and were you able to catch Droid Mayo as

738
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Speaker 2: well as Paul.

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 14: I caught him with with Paul was right next to him,

741
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Speaker 14: right next to Uh fine, I mean, I mean, I

742
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Speaker 14: don't know.

743
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Speaker 5: There wasn't a lot.

744
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Speaker 14: I don't I mean, you know, not a lot. Not

745
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Speaker 14: a lot to take away, I mean a lot. Glad

746
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 14: to see that we turned the page. It didn't feel

747
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 14: like we were still, you know, flexing about about the win.

748
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 14: And I'd expect that with him, but no, you know,

749
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 14: nice message about nine to eleven and all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting you brought up quick side store.

751
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Speaker 14: I think I've told it, like you mentioned, A couple

752
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 14: of flights came out of Boston, and when I moved

753
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Speaker 14: to California in August of nineteen ninety nine, I took

754
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Speaker 14: flight one seventy five, and so I still have the

755
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Speaker 14: ticket stub from taking that exact flight that you know,

756
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 14: ended up flying into one of the World Trade centers.

757
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Speaker 5: So I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I always kept that as like a you know, a

759
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Speaker 14: little memento and reminder of you know, just that terrible.

760
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Speaker 4: But the one comment, and I agree with Mike that I

761
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Speaker 4: and you know, we are we talked about the press

762
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Speaker 4: conferences and stuff. I didn't think there was a ton,

763
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Speaker 4: you know, I didn't think there was a ton there.

764
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Speaker 15: I don't.

765
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Speaker 4: I don't think my shows will be spending segments talking

766
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Speaker 4: about Gerrod today like they have at times in the summer.

767
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Speaker 4: My one thing that I mentioned to Fred Mike, and

768
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Speaker 4: I'll be curious to see if you feel the same way. Like,

769
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Speaker 4: and he's talking about like reminder Stevenson, It's like, you know,

770
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Speaker 4: you guys don't know, you know, he's always telling us

771
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Speaker 4: what we think of guys. You know, like you guys

772
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Speaker 4: don't you know he might not get the pub that

773
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Speaker 4: that other guys get. And then Kenneth Walker comes up

774
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Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, I don't know what his

775
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 4: matting radny is, but like why are you, like, you know,

776
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Speaker 4: always telling us what we.

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Speaker 14: Think, feeding the outside perspective on the player a little bit, right, Yeah,

778
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Speaker 14: And I think the outside perspective, certainly on Stevenson in

779
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Speaker 14: this area is he's.

780
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Speaker 4: A really good back. He's just got to stay he's

781
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Speaker 4: got to stay healthy. That's it, you know, like two

782
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: years ago he had like eleven hundred yards and sixty

783
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Speaker 4: seven catches. Yeah, you know, like why like no one

784
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Speaker 4: in New England thinks that he's a stiff?

785
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Speaker 14: No, I add on too, where was Girod started to

786
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 14: walk down like one of his goals is you know

787
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Speaker 14: what I'm not I'm not going to tell you. So

788
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Speaker 14: I think that showed a little bit of progress from Girraw,

789
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Speaker 14: but still he has I think he still has an

790
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Speaker 14: inclination to share things that you don't have to share,

791
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Speaker 14: you don't even have feeling.

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Speaker 4: And if someone said, Girod, what were some of the

793
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Speaker 4: goals that ro Roder Stevenson had right after that, that

794
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Speaker 4: he probably would.

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Speaker 8: Have just said it.

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Speaker 6: Well, I was right.

797
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Speaker 5: Well I thought they were gonna go right into Remondra

798
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Speaker 5: in the locker room and be like, what are your

799
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Speaker 5: goals you know in life in the football season generally.

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Speaker 4: So that that would be called being a reporter.

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Speaker 5: I'd see.

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Speaker 14: I didn't go to J school, but I don't know

803
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 14: good of him questions and talking to people, but uh yeah,

804
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Speaker 14: it was it was you know, I thought Persette was

805
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 14: was you know fine too. You know, I just I

806
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 14: like that they're talking about throwing the ball more. I

807
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 14: think that that you.

808
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Speaker 4: Know, it's just I think they know that that's it

809
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: was kind of a rarity.

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Speaker 14: I've seen my word pop up a lot this week,

811
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Speaker 14: my sustainability pop up. Saw Tommy Kerrn, you know, doing

812
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Speaker 14: a little of that. I wrote in the mailbag that was,

813
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Speaker 14: you know, one of my title. I mean, I think

814
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 14: that's it's obvious what this team needs to do.

815
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: It was a nice win.

816
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 14: You threaded the needle, you didn't turn the ball over.

817
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 14: You you know, you're able to run the ball and

818
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 14: run out the clock. That's awesome. We all know that

819
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 14: that's a really hard way to live and that they're

820
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 14: going to have to start producing explosive plays to offset

821
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Speaker 14: the mistakes that are just going to happen. That's that's

822
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 14: the NFL. You know, that's they're going to be turnovers.

823
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 14: There's going to be a dumb penalty here there. I mean,

824
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Speaker 14: as long as they're not a litany of them that

825
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 14: you can't overcome, but they have to develop that explosive

826
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Speaker 14: element to their offense for sure.

827
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Speaker 2: Let's see, we'll go to the TPX hotline eight five

828
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Speaker 2: to five pats five hundred Eldred's is on the line

829
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Speaker 2: and he says he's a Madden guy. What's up? Aldred, Aldred, Aldred, Yes, yes, yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: p yes, sir.

831
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Speaker 15: They update the roster and if your guys got injury,

832
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 15: they don't, like you can't put him in the line up,

833
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 15: even do a simulation.

834
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

835
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Speaker 4: No, I just was wondering what we did when we

836
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Speaker 4: did the simulation. I would like the Patriots. You know,

837
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: Fred was telling us the Patriots had a seventeen to

838
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Speaker 4: ten win in the sem Like, was that including t

839
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Speaker 4: Higgins or do we take him out? Is that including Chase?

840
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Speaker 7: According to Matisse, Bengals were at full strength. Chase played,

841
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 7: but we mentioned he had contract disputes. Higgins did not

842
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 7: catch up a Higgins did not catch a pass.

843
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think later in the week.

844
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Speaker 8: It is hard.

845
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 15: Hey, My question is, like them happy for the win

846
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 15: and everything, but do you think they don't I know

847
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 15: they can't do too much now, but those tackles they got,

848
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 15: do you think they're trying to work them in, especially.

849
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Speaker 16: The big guys.

850
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Speaker 2: One off waivers.

851
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would doubt it.

852
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 8: But we'll see, you know, we'll see.

853
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: You know, these guys are going to be here for

854
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Speaker 4: at least two more weeks and we'll see if they

855
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: progress enough to earn playing time. But I find that

856
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: to be a short odds on you.

857
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 5: We're talking about the defensive guy they signed up.

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Speaker 2: The tackle's huge, Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I don't. I

859
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna see him. If you do, it's

860
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: because everything else isn't working, so let's or or he

861
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: just shows enough in practice. But I don't. I don't

862
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: see that happening.

863
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 14: No, I mean, I think it's more about you see

864
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 14: what positions they're concerned about. I mean, they brought in

865
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 14: a bunch of outside offensive linemen. They just signed this kid.

866
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Speaker 14: I'm not sure if it's I don't think it's Jacqueline,

867
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 14: is it Jake Quellen?

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Speaker 4: J Quin?

869
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 14: Yeah, Jay Quellen, which reminds me, of course of Jack

870
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Speaker 14: the Key and Peel Sketch, Jake Qulin, Jake Coulin Roy.

871
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 14: But you know, they they signed some defensive lineman, they

872
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 14: signed some offensive lineman. I think that those are positions

873
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 14: we talked about throughout camp, that there's some uncertainty there,

874
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 14: there's maybe a lack of proven depth, and I think

875
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 14: it's just good due diligence to continue to focus on

876
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 14: those players as they you know, moving to this how

877
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 14: to find somebody. They brought in the guard. They let

878
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 14: the guard go to sign the defensive tackle. And you know,

879
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 14: if you do this all season long, maybe maybe you

880
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 14: find a gem you find.

881
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 5: We've seen it happen. It's not very common, but you've

882
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 5: seen it a good.

883
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: Way to find depth at the very least. Yep, I

884
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: agree with you, Mike.

885
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: Will writes in he said the Patriots win on Sunday

886
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: was one of the more enjoyable and positive moments of

887
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: the last few years. I was so happy. I know

888
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: we gave Mayo a hard time for all the corporate speak,

889
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: which reminded me more of my nonprofit work than football.

890
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: But it's nice to have a coach that I feel

891
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: I can relate more to. Maybe that is corny, I

892
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: don't know, so.

893
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: He's still doing a little of that.

894
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 8: By the way, what do you throw out the imposter syndrome.

895
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: To the half?

896
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still got a little of that going.

897
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: Also shout out to Evan for a fr I really

898
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: enjoy reading it on Mondays.

899
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

900
00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: I do wonder, you know, because if this was last

901
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 4: year's team and they won that way with Belichick. People

902
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: would have called it a fake win, Like my shows

903
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 4: would have said, that's a fake win. But I wonder

904
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: how much of it with the newness of Mayo and

905
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: he is really I love the way he's like he's

906
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: maybe he's more relatable, that's changing.

907
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: I disagree with that. I think Belichick would have got

908
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: credit because, oh, he did it with Jacoby Brissett and

909
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: this is how he had to do it. And I'm

910
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: just telling you that a.

911
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: Lot of people would have made fun of it, like

912
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 4: that's what he didn't just just adjust pay No, I know,

913
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: but you had to. You would have made fun of

914
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: him and used Mike's sustainability question.

915
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if Belichick was had to win a

916
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: game with Jacoby Brissett, that's what you would expect from Belichick.

917
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, I said, last year's team wins

918
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 4: that same game, okay, and everybody would have said that's

919
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: not sustainable. This is how he wants to win every

920
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 4: game seventeen thirty. I would have said it, right. Yeah,

921
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not calling anybody else.

922
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: Out with Mac Jones as the quarterback.

923
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 8: I don't care who the quarterback.

924
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: Once to play. No, he played exactly that game. He

925
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 4: played exactly the way he tried to play the last

926
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: three years with Mac Jones.

927
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: Here, I am defending Bill Belichick again. No, I think

928
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: that you know.

929
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 6: No, No, Fred, you're.

930
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: Young, and I think Bill Belichick is known for adjusting

931
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: depending on the situation and adapting to not just the opponent.

932
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 8: But what's going on with that.

933
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't known for that the three years that

934
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: Mac Jones was his quarterback.

935
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: I know, but maybe that And if Bill was here,

936
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: he probably and being honest, he'd probably tell you that's

937
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: that's all we could do.

938
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 14: I just think it's it's Bill Belichick had an established championship,

939
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 14: you know, pedigree, and you're held to that standard. The

940
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 14: standard that Mayo was being held to was that these

941
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 14: guys might not win a game this year. This might

942
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 14: be the worst team in the league. And that's why

943
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 14: you get credit for it. When you show that you

944
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 14: can even just put everybody's pulling in the same direction

945
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 14: and you're not killing yourself. It looks like a well

946
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 14: coached team goes to Mayo, who hasn't done anything. It's

947
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 14: it's a feather in his cap. If it's Belichick, It's like, well,

948
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 14: where's the four hundred and five hundred yards our offense?

949
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: Bill, Like, we can't do it.

950
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 4: I totally agree. That's exactly how I felt like this,

951
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: that it would have been perceived so differently. And I'm

952
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it would have

953
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 4: been perceived differently.

954
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 5: And it's just the bottom line is, whether it was

955
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: Bill's team or Gerrod's team, they have.

956
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: To if anybody really say how bad Cincinnati was Sunday

957
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: last year.

958
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 8: That's all you If it was if Bill was here,

959
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 8: that's all you.

960
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: Would have heard was they didn't even want to be there.

961
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: Higgins didn't play, Chase was a shell of himself. The

962
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: defense couldn't stop the same play. Oh do we hear

963
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: that maybe sometime maybe in Buffalo in the win game?

964
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: How bad is Sean McDermot He couldn't stop the same play, Like, yeah,

965
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 4: that's what people would have said. Yeah, but I think

966
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. It should be looked at differently because

967
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: we're not holding Mayo to the Belichick standard of you

968
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: you don't know what it wins away from the all

969
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 4: time winning his coach.

970
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 14: I mean, if it had like Carolina's game did right,

971
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 14: like you know, like we killing him right, and that's

972
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 14: you don't know what to expect. But I will say

973
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 14: one thing I have seen that I didn't really catch

974
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 14: during the game was like a super cut of all

975
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 14: the Joe Burrow O Wrisk stuff the whole game, like

976
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 14: on the bench. I didn't even really, I didn't really

977
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 14: I didn't clock it during the game. But I mean

978
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 14: he's he's clearly still working through stuff. And I mean again,

979
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 14: it's funny because we spent the whole week talking like, well,

980
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 14: he's finally healthy, it still starts like, I mean, he's

981
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 14: banged up again.

982
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 8: Fred had a good one.

983
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, well Andrew.

984
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: I just wonder for other reasons, if he'll be what

985
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck was for the Colts, he'll be for the Bengals.

986
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: You know, this elite talent that just gets wasted.

987
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean I hope not.

988
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 14: I I mean Andrew Luck got beat up, right, I mean,

989
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 14: he just did injuries and.

990
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,959
Speaker 4: And he had the risk surgery and he clearly didn't

991
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: trust his ability to throw the ball outside the numbers.

992
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 4: Everyn't talked about it a lot yesterday, And I think

993
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 4: the proof is in the pudding. He didn't really try

994
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 4: to throw the ball downfield or outside very often.

995
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: No Micah from South Dakota. After looking at how the

996
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: other rookie quarterbacks did on Sunday and how our offensive

997
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: line pass blocked, I'm glad Drake may is starting the

998
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: season on the bench. The so called ready rookie quarterbacks

999
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: played pretty bad. Caleb Williams looked like twenty twenty Cam Newton,

1000
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: throwing for less than one hundred yards. I also think

1001
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: that Jacoby moving forward will be better than he was

1002
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: on Sunday in terms of throwing the ball down the field.

1003
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: Now on to Seattle, two to zero, here we come.

1004
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 14: I think the energy is gonna be pretty good this weekend.

1005
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 14: I mean, I just that that's one bonus of winning

1006
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 14: the first game on the road, and then you know,

1007
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 14: coming in here. I mean it's been a tough go.

1008
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 14: I mean, the last time this team played on this field,

1009
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 14: they lost to the Jets. I mean, you know, for

1010
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 14: the first time I went like eighteen games. So I'm

1011
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 14: excited for the atmosphere. I just I think Patriot fans

1012
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 14: are gonna come supposed to be a beautiful day. You know,

1013
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 14: it's a team you don't really get to see a lot, so.

1014
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: I wonder and I don't know this, so I'm not

1015
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: like playing coy. If there will be any difference in

1016
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: how the opening introductions are done with you know, with

1017
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: the new regime, if.

1018
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 14: I'm sure there will be, I just don't know if

1019
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 14: it'll be the same as preseason or if they'll.

1020
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure whatever that if they are going to do changes,

1021
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: they would not unveil it in preseason.

1022
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, well we won't hear because we're in the

1023
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 14: silent press spots.

1024
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: I have no idea what's going on. I don't even

1025
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 5: know there's a giant screen up there.

1026
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 4: It's just like they could do something like entirely different

1027
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: and you could tell me that's exactly what they've done

1028
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: every game, and I would have no idea.

1029
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 8: I don't know how they come out.

1030
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 4: It's like even the flyover you just like, I know

1031
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: they used to play crazy Train, and I guess we're

1032
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 4: not doing that.

1033
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: Anymore, right, Oh, I didn't know, there you go. I

1034
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: didn't know that.

1035
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 4: Well, I thought that's what they said in the preseason

1036
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: games they weren't playing crazy Train.

1037
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: Well, they had like what is that?

1038
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 13: Is it?

1039
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 5: Carmina Burana.

1040
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've always played that, you know, that one that

1041
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: starts it out it goes into crazy. Yeah.

1042
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I was told that they weren't playing that in

1043
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: the preseason, all right, so probably, but Mike and I

1044
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: are in here. Yeah, so I didn't hear it. I mean,

1045
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, in the Bob's Discount for an Instant Studio.

1046
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 14: They did like the Lil John mix of it. I

1047
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 14: think in the preseason is like a let's go version

1048
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 14: of that.

1049
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: So I don't know if it' if that'll stick or.

1050
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: If you know, I couldn't tell you what they normally do,

1051
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: so I'm not going to be able to tell you

1052
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 4: what they're doing now.

1053
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: I hope they stick to being introduced as a team now,

1054
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: be serious. I don't want to go to the individual intros.

1055
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: I want to stay the teams still do that.

1056
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 5: I don't know that's why.

1057
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, every guy came out, you know, Chase was

1058
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: second to last, Burrow was last, you know.

1059
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 14: To the alternate defense offense every week every like.

1060
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if they do, but I just think

1061
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: they did the offense. You know, I think what you

1062
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: do whoever is your best player, that's the side of

1063
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: the ball that you introduce because you want to get

1064
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 2: you want to get the fans, you know, riled up,

1065
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, you want to get them.

1066
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 5: Which tie would you introduce for the Patriots right now?

1067
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 8: Defense?

1068
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I do defense. But like, who's your

1069
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: last player to come out? Who's the guy pep Pepper?

1070
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul.

1071
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 8: I just think he's like their emotional guy.

1072
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: He's like their emotional But in terms of like star power,

1073
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: it kind of underscores what's lacking.

1074
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 5: That's where we got to stay as a team.

1075
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 4: You don't have that superstar that you wait just off

1076
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: the top of my head, and you guys have obviously

1077
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 4: given this stuff a lot more thought than I ever have.

1078
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: This is I'll tell you, I didn't even know that

1079
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: we didn't do the same thing that everybody else does anymore.

1080
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 4: Like I knew that was a thing in two thousand

1081
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: and one, I didn't realize that we still did that.

1082
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: And Everett, they don't have introductions when you were.

1083
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 4: You run out high school, you run out.

1084
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 5: It's like the loop that the cheerleaders make the knocks your.

1085
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: Every once in a while, you get the little kids

1086
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: like in Pop Wanted, they go out and they can't

1087
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: break through the paper good time. So I love it.

1088
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 5: I love it.

1089
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Speaker 2: Josh is in Dallas on the TPX hotline, What's up, Josh.

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Speaker 17: Hey, guys, great to have football back and three shows

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Speaker 17: a week. Love it just as a fan. It was

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Speaker 17: a great game to watch on Sundays. First game, as

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Speaker 17: you guys just said in a couple of years that

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Speaker 17: I felt like I couldn't get up for my couch.

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Speaker 17: I just wanted to watch. And I was looking at

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Speaker 17: this week's plate of games, and I think we all

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Speaker 17: agree that the Patriots like thoroughly outplayed the Bengals. The

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Speaker 17: Bengals did not look ready to play. So when I

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Speaker 17: say this, please do not come at me, because I

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Speaker 17: don't think it's necessarily true, but could be a factor.

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Speaker 17: I didn't realize that the Bengals are playing the Chiefs

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Speaker 17: this week, and I just I hadn't heard anybody talk

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Speaker 17: about if there was maybe any consideration to thinking that

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Speaker 17: they could come in with a maybe more vanilla game

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Speaker 17: plan against the Patriots, just having on paper more talent

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Speaker 17: and then just kind of circling that Chiefs game week two,

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Speaker 17: since it's always competitive and they kind of need to

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Speaker 17: pull out all the stops. So again, I think the defense.

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Speaker 10: Played really well.

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Speaker 17: I love the way that Covington's fun the dial of

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Speaker 17: you guys had said, But I just wondered, from maybe

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Speaker 17: the All twenty two and those kind of things, if

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Speaker 17: there were some concepts that they shied away from saving

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Speaker 17: for next week and didn't expect the paths to come

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Speaker 17: out and en off like they did.

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Speaker 13: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean that could be a little looking ahead. You know,

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Speaker 2: if it was the forty nine ers, there'd be more

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Speaker 2: vanilla because you know, you know, they're in their division,

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Speaker 2: but not showing the chief stuff. I don't know, what,

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Speaker 2: what did you just say? I'm thinking about the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it had anything to do with game

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Speaker 4: plan now, but you can make any make an argument

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Speaker 4: they got a big game next week and they're caught sleeping.

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Speaker 4: But that doesn't even hold water to me.

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Speaker 2: It's the opener exactly. It's your opening game. And with

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Speaker 2: the offense, the Seahawks and the forty nine Ers, they.

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Speaker 14: Were in survival mode with the offense, you know, without

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Speaker 14: Higgins in limited chase. I mean, they were just trying

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Speaker 14: to piece it together. I don't think they were that's

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Speaker 14: in a position to hide.

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Speaker 4: The only like excuse I'll allow for Cincinnati, if you

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Speaker 4: want to call it, is that the person the personnel

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Speaker 4: wasn't really available, right, you know that they that they're

1136
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Speaker 4: built on off that was hurt. Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean he played, but he played like crap. Like

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Speaker 4: and I like Joe Barrow. I think he's really really good.

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Speaker 4: Certainly he's one of my top five in the league.

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Speaker 4: But he I mean, you have to call it the

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Speaker 4: way it is, like the Patriots made him look bad

1142
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: and he played like crap.

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00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he certainly didn't overcome the fact that he

1144
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: didn't have But I like.

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Speaker 4: Win that game, right, and Brady, I've seen Josh Allen

1146
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 4: win that game right, right, Like he couldn't do it

1147
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: and he really didn't come close. Let's call it, like

1148
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: I think Josh is right. Patriots controlled the game that

1149
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Speaker 4: last three and out that they had.

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Speaker 2: That was John.

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Speaker 5: I was like it here it comes, like, here comes

1152
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Speaker 5: the drive.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have to make that like everything, not that

1154
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 4: they would score, but that they would move fifty or

1155
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Speaker 4: sixty yards and get in position to score. Teams always

1156
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Speaker 4: do right, Like, yeah, I never just automatically. Teams always

1157
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Speaker 4: make a run.

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Speaker 11: I know.

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Speaker 14: That's what was in my head, was like, we're having

1160
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Speaker 14: to stop in the end zone. That's like how they're

1161
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Speaker 14: going to have to win this game. It's gonna come

1162
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Speaker 14: down to the last play. And then all of a sudden,

1163
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Speaker 14: they're punting and then the three players just look so

1164
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 14: disjoined and non can you know, It's just it almost

1165
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 14: snowballed on the Bengals because I feel like the Patriots,

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Speaker 14: everyone's like they controlled the line of scrimmage. I felt

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Speaker 14: like they really controlled it the first quarter, you know,

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Speaker 14: those first three and out and then after that, like

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00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 14: you know, it kind of settled in. It was a

1170
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Speaker 14: little more back and forth. A couple of key moments,

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Speaker 14: you know, the fourth down stop that you know swung

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00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 14: the result. But you know, I was I was surprised.

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00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 14: Credits to the Patriots defense. They had him in a

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Speaker 14: blunder by the end.

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Speaker 2: I guess to Cody in West Virginia yesterday, I saw

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Speaker 2: the CBS sideline reporter mentioned Drake May getting thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of the first team reps this week with Persett still starting,

1178
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Speaker 2: Will that affect how he plays on game day?

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00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 5: I would I hadn't seen that. I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 2: How do we know he didn't get thirty percent last

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00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 2: week too?

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Speaker 13: You know?

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00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: I mean, what, what isn't that normal for like the

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback?

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Speaker 4: That's I think that's what the report was. During the game.

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Speaker 4: I would say I didn't know, like, but I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see that. I have no idea what normal

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Speaker 4: would be for the backup course, Yeah, I mean to me, Hi, yeah,

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Speaker 4: first team reps? Yeah, for the backup quarterback and the

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Speaker 4: other guy. I tell you right now, Drew Blitzoe got zero.

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Speaker 2: The other guy's getting seventy percent, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when when it was Brady and Bledsoe Bledsoe zero

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Speaker 4: percent of the first team reps? Well, because no, when

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00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 4: he came back and Bill made the comment about we're

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Speaker 4: going with Brady for the foreseeable future, that's what that was.

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Speaker 4: And how are you expecting to get the How are

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Speaker 4: you expecting to get your job back if you can't

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Speaker 4: get any reps? Yeah, I mean, if it's true, what were

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Speaker 4: you supposed to answer? Sorry, how do you expect to

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Speaker 4: get your job back?

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Speaker 8: If your next question?

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Speaker 4: I don't A famous exchange between Paul Perol and Drew bletsnow,

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Speaker 4: and so.

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Speaker 2: You asked that question, I don't know what the told you.

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Speaker 4: I didn't always just I didn't always just sit around

1206
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Speaker 4: and let all this, let these other nubes do all

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Speaker 4: the work.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the normal backup reps with first

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Speaker 2: teams are. I don't either, but I'm hoping that whatever

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Speaker 2: it is, may does get a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit more than I think I was just I think

1212
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Speaker 4: that's greed not to just have him handling the scout team.

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Speaker 4: I think it's important that he's running the Patriots offense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 14: I don't want to spoil it, but so maybe we should,

1216
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Speaker 14: maybe we should run up by before we actually it.

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Speaker 14: But but Evan did talk to Drake made today and

1218
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Speaker 14: asked him about his week and what he did, and

1219
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 14: got some really interesting stuff about just nothing specific like

1220
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Speaker 14: rep breakdowns, but specifically what Drake did last week as

1221
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Speaker 14: we went into the regular season. So Evan was pretty

1222
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Speaker 14: excited about it. We might have to make sure it's

1223
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 14: a COPA set it before we put it out, but

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Speaker 14: it was sounded like he got some good stuff from Drake.

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Speaker 2: Okay, David writes in He's from Madrid. I was shocked

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Speaker 2: he said in a good way about the few amount

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Speaker 2: of penalties the team had in week one, mainly after

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Speaker 2: that last preseason game. Do we think that's an anomaly

1229
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: or are they actually disciplined? I mean, we'll see. It's

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Speaker 2: week one.

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Speaker 4: My guess is it was like right now, If I

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Speaker 4: have to guess between one of those two things, I

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Speaker 4: would say it's an anomaly based on every other day

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Speaker 4: that I've seen them play so far, counting practice.

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Speaker 5: I mean, is it I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I just that's always a question that I have universally,

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 14: is what you how much of training camp is a lot?

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Speaker 14: How much what you're seeing is true or not true?

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Speaker 15: You know?

1240
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Speaker 5: And I have to say, like.

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Speaker 14: Mostly looking back, especially the last couple of years, having

1242
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Speaker 14: keeping notes on the practices, there's a lot of truth.

1243
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 14: There's a lot of truth in training camp camp I

1244
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 14: think is pretty true. The preseason games can be lost.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I don't I don't really put a

1246
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: whole lot of stock at all. I put no stock

1247
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Speaker 4: really in preseason performance. I mean, look at look at

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Speaker 4: the young quarterbacks. Young quarterbacks, I mean the people gushing

1249
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Speaker 4: gushing over bow knicks. He looked like he's never been

1250
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: on the field before. That's not a slam on bow Knicks.

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Speaker 4: That's what these rookie quarterbacks should look like when they

1252
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Speaker 4: play against good competition. You know what was mac Jones's Uh?

1253
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 4: That was that the Jets Jones Jets Mac Jones's first

1254
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 4: attempt in the NFL. He threw backwards, and so much

1255
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Speaker 4: of what bon Nicks did look to as on the back,

1256
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Speaker 4: like the back foot, like I think it's there. It's

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00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: it's not NFL open even close, you know, chucking it

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00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: off his back foot and guys are picking up off easily.

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00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: Uh. Todd and Garner writes in I'm curious to as

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00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: to how much passing you each field needs to be

1261
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: added to the offensive game plan and the something in

1262
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: the type. Do we need to stretch the field to

1263
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: throw sidelines, to empty the box to help the run game?

1264
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: Should we be using screens and quick hitters to lessen

1265
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: the pass rush? Getting to Jacoby Love the show, looking

1266
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 2: forward to a great game this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Blah blah blah, all of that. I mean, they need

1268
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 5: it all.

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Speaker 4: Like the quick hitters. There was a there was a

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Speaker 4: good zone, there was a good blitz beeeder early in

1271
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 4: the game. I think to Hooper, yep, I want to

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Speaker 4: say just really good stuff. That's why Brissette's in there.

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00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 4: Some of those plays like well, that's.

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Speaker 14: Like this is becoming the pattern though, is that every

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00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 14: time they like there's an all out blitz and Jacoby

1276
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 14: is able to just dump it off to his hot read.

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Speaker 5: That's what we got them.

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 4: But that's like I am not willing to just blindly say, like, well,

1279
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: Brissette wins the game and May wouldn't have. Like I

1280
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 4: think if May was forced to run around and improvise

1281
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: make plays, they might have been more explosive. I'm not

1282
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 4: just blindly saying they wouldn't have scored sixteen points if

1283
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: May played. Is now, who's saying that a lot of

1284
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: people have used that That's why they made the right

1285
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: decision in starting We're set. That's been I mean it

1286
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 4: was constant during the game on Twitter, like Patriots Twitter

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00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 4: during the game had a lot of that.

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Speaker 14: I think the encouraging thing for me, though, is that

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00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 14: you've seen a lot of a lot of places, not

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00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 14: just Evan and Taylor and those guys, but but plays

1291
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 14: are open, you know, the guys are open. There are

1292
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 14: things like it's functional offense, it's not like nobody's open,

1293
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 14: like there's no more to go. You know, I'd rather

1294
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 14: have guys open and we're just not quite hitting them.

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00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 8: Depends on who you ask.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen, you know, I know now Girod

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00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 4: said today that he felt like they had some some

1298
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: guys open. Yeah, most of what I've seen. I mean,

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Speaker 4: maybe if May played, they would have scored thirty. Right,

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Speaker 4: Like again, I can play in Fantasy Land. If I

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Speaker 4: can't be proven wrong, I'll tell you what I know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just I just don't know a way

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Speaker 4: of knowing. I don't even need to jump to the

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Speaker 4: May comparison.

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Speaker 14: It's just after seeing uncoordinated offenses and guys who cannot

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00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 14: get away from coverage, it's you're seeing some of that,

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00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 14: you know, and and they're not connecting on it yet,

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00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 14: so they have to to actually, you know, make it productive.

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Speaker 14: But regardless of May, it's just all right. It seems

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00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 14: like there's an offense there. Guys are open, it's coordinated.

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00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 14: You know, they know where they're going, so that, you know,

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Speaker 14: I think that's a good sign. Again, though they got

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Speaker 14: to execute.

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Speaker 4: I agree, and I think that you know, Brissett missed

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Speaker 4: some throws too, that I don't think really got much attention.

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00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 4: I think a lot of the mistakes get covered up

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00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 4: when you win. Yeah, I think some of these things

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Speaker 4: would have been you know, illustrated a little bit.

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Speaker 2: If they had lost Borrow had come down the end

1320
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: of the game and scored a touchdown Bengals win, we'd

1321
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: be talking about the stuff that the offense left on

1322
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Speaker 2: the table that they didn't want.

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Speaker 4: That's I think, Mayo, there's that line. Very early in

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Speaker 4: this pres convience. We felt like we left a lot

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00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 4: of plays on it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's just funny because things are completely falling apart

1327
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 14: in Caroline after one game, you know, and here we

1328
00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 14: are proof of concept.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 14: It's it's it's one extreme or the other. You lose

1331
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 14: the game, it's, oh my god, what are they?

1332
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Speaker 4: You know, And as frustrating as it is, Mike, it's

1333
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 4: kind of what makes the NFL great is the gross

1334
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 4: overreactions week to week. They're one week like soap operas.

1335
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Speaker 2: You don't have that game the next day to wash.

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 4: You know, we'll go We'll go to the to the

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00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: fun baseball team in town. They shut out, that's all.

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Speaker 4: There's a path that they and by the way behind

1339
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: two other.

1340
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Speaker 2: Teams, and there's only twenty games left.

1341
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Speaker 4: Oh, there's not that many left, really, So they beat

1342
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 4: Baltimore twelve three, right, I do because I want them

1343
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 4: to spend money and try to put the best team

1344
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 4: they can, and I think making the playoffs would send

1345
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 4: a bad message to John Henry anyway. That's I can't

1346
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 4: be any more honest than that. No, I want the

1347
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: team to.

1348
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Speaker 2: Be good, I know.

1349
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Speaker 4: So they win twelve three, they beat Baltimore on Monday night,

1350
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Speaker 4: they may have found their way, like this is this

1351
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: is what I'm reading on Twitter. And they lose the

1352
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Speaker 4: next night, and then you know, the next night. To

1353
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Speaker 4: Fred's point, you don't have to wait a week. You

1354
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Speaker 4: don't have a week to debate that they found their way.

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Speaker 4: If the next night you come out, the Bats are

1356
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Speaker 4: silent again, you lose five to three, and you'll drop

1357
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 4: another game back, you have another team flip you Detroit

1358
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 4: got ahead of them, and all of a sudden, it's like,

1359
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Speaker 4: you know what was Whereas in the NFL you have

1360
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 4: a whole week to argue whether or not it's it's sustainable.

1361
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Speaker 2: It's the beauty of it, I know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's what makes the NFL great.

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Speaker 14: I think that's what I was happy about after the win.

1364
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 14: Was just like, wow, this is going to be a

1365
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 14: nice week. Like what does this mean in the broad

1366
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 14: I don't know, but like, this is going to be

1367
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Speaker 14: a nice week. I mean, but there's also we were

1368
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Speaker 14: talking about, well now that we're gonna get blogged by

1369
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Speaker 14: these guys and stuff.

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Speaker 5: You know, so I enjoy it. It's this is so

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Speaker 5: much more fun whan they win.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, Parcels used to talk about it. You know,

1373
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Speaker 2: you lose that game and you wake you want to

1374
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Speaker 2: throw up in your mouth, and it just it just

1375
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: ruins every taste is good. Yeah, you know, but if

1376
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: you win the game, then you're riding high.

1377
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Speaker 14: I just I love the saying that it's like winning

1378
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 14: doesn't feel as good as losing feels bad.

1379
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Speaker 5: Something along those lines.

1380
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: A lot of the great safety.

1382
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Speaker 2: And that's the other thing. I know, it's all the

1383
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Speaker 2: pros athletes and all the sports put in a lot

1384
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: of work, but a lot of work is put into

1385
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: a football game. It's you know, I know, some teams

1386
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: make it look easy, you know, the mahomes is and all,

1387
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: but it's it's hard to win in the NFL, and

1388
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: a lot of work is put into every game. So

1389
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Speaker 2: when you win that game, it's like almost a relief,

1390
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: like you know, and when you lose that game, it's

1391
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Speaker 2: it's put.

1392
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Speaker 4: All the way. And I don't like the guy.

1393
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Speaker 8: But did you hear Jim Habba after the game?

1394
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 11: No?

1395
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Speaker 4: You know, like he won his first game obviously back

1396
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: with with the Chargers, and he's just like, you know,

1397
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 4: these is it's really hard. These wins are really hard

1398
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 4: to get in the NFL. This is why I don't

1399
01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 4: like him.

1400
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Speaker 2: But he's absolutely This is why I was so upset

1401
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Speaker 2: with with Josh McDaniels in Denver, Like you know, he know,

1402
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Speaker 2: like he knows what it takes to lose or win

1403
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: a football game in this league and how bad it

1404
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: feels to lose a game.

1405
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Speaker 4: What's the what's the maddest, Mike, you've been here since

1406
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Speaker 4: nineteen what's the madness that you've ever seen? Fred? Can

1407
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Speaker 4: you recall?

1408
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Speaker 3: Oh Man, that's a good question because and Andy had

1409
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: to be part of that's probably the clip that's probably

1410
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Speaker 3: the answer with that, But that's not football related.

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Speaker 4: The post game bus in Denver and O nine all

1412
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Speaker 4: time is definitely one of the top three.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, like, I don't want to say

1414
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: like Josh meant to be disrespectful, but I think he

1415
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Speaker 2: just he just lost he lost his mind for a second,

1416
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Speaker 2: understanding that I know they're my ex teammates and all

1417
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Speaker 2: that stuff, but they're they're hurting right now and they

1418
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: don't want to see me come over to their bus,

1419
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: you know, whooping.

1420
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Speaker 4: It up and hugging everybody. Yeah, So me and Andy

1421
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Speaker 4: started off, we're all in the bus, We're all on

1422
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: the bus side, right, and me and Andy Stott like

1423
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Speaker 4: need like his friends, Like, he goes, look at this,

1424
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Speaker 4: what is he doing over here?

1425
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Speaker 11: Up?

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Speaker 4: So when Andy and I originally are like, Fred, what's

1427
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Speaker 4: she supposed to be? Like, He's not supposed to be happy.

1428
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Speaker 4: He's just coming over, like, you know whatever. And then

1429
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Speaker 4: it went like it went on for like another five minutes,

1430
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Speaker 4: and finally Me and Andy were like, I ain't saying nothing.

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Speaker 4: He's kind of right now. He's ready to explode. Because

1432
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Speaker 4: even it got to the point where even Andy and

1433
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Speaker 4: I were like, all right, Josh, go back on your sideline.

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Speaker 2: I think I might have even wrote about it in

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Speaker 20: kind of talked about it this morning in the squad

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Speaker 20: meeting and it was like a reminder of how old

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Speaker 20: I would say, just to wrap up last week before

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Speaker 20: we get onto Seattle. I do think it's important to

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Speaker 20: recognize some of the players that may not get all

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Speaker 20: the stories written about them or anything like that, but

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Speaker 20: we have practice players of the week, and I tell

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Speaker 20: and the practice players they make sure they do a

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Speaker 20: good job going out there giving us a good look

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Speaker 20: look and gave us a chance to win the football game.

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Speaker 21: Going back to your first stagent, Hope, what are your

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Speaker 21: thoughts on Joe Cardona and what he does on and.

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Speaker 4: Off the field.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, I have nothing but love and respect

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Speaker 20: for Joe. Actually had him go up and speak to

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Speaker 20: the team, and you know when that happened, what he

1513
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 20: talked about was, you know, when that happened, just the

1514
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 20: rallying of all the let's say eighteen year olds that

1515
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 20: really are like we got to sign up and join

1516
01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 20: the military and really protect our nation. Joe has two jobs.

1517
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 20: He has two jobs, and football is the second one.

1518
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 20: You know, the first one is as a serviceman, you know,

1519
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 20: to serve, to serve our country. And I think all

1520
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 20: the all the players in the locker room understand, uh,

1521
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 20: you know how tough it is for him. Uh, and

1522
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 20: at the same time have a great appreciation for everything

1523
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 20: he does.

1524
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 9: Diructly go down that road a little further. I take

1525
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 9: you were probably in high school at the time.

1526
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 20: Yeah, so I was in school. I just remember everyone

1527
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 20: having to go to to the cafeteria and they just

1528
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 20: turned on the TVs and uh, it was crazy.

1529
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: You know.

1530
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 20: I'm a military brat ish you know. You know, my

1531
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,879
Speaker 20: grandfather was a chief Master sergeant, my mom's in military

1532
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 20: as a civilian. My stepdad also in the military, So

1533
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 20: I understand and and understood what was going on at

1534
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 20: the same time. It was it was one of those

1535
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 20: things where you just feel like you're in a dream

1536
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 20: and don't really Yeah, you don't think it's real. I

1537
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,839
Speaker 20: will say there is significance even here in the Northeast.

1538
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 20: I think one of the flights actually took off from Boston,

1539
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 20: if i'm both of them took off from Boston. Okay, yeah,

1540
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 20: so definitely significant here.

1541
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 4: In this region.

1542
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 13: Russ.

1543
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 18: You mentioned your age just an opening statement, which is

1544
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 18: very thoughtful.

1545
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 20: But going up against Mike McDonald, another young rookie coach

1546
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 20: over at Seattle, have.

1547
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 13: You guys crossed past much that you've been able to

1548
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,959
Speaker 13: discuss coming from similar defensive background.

1549
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 20: Uh no, I mean it's a short Actually, we haven't

1550
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 20: had any conversations there. You know, I've had conversations with

1551
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 20: other coaches around the league, but I haven't had the

1552
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 20: privilege to meet with Mike.

1553
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: Obviously, Mike led one of the better defensive league last

1554
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: year in Baltimore.

1555
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 21: As you study them their system, what kind of stands

1556
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 21: out about the way they like to play.

1557
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean everyone is a threat. When we talk

1558
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 20: about known rushers, it's really it's really the unknown rushers

1559
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 20: that make that Baltimore defense special. Like you don't know

1560
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 20: who's coming, you know, they drop out defensive ends. They

1561
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 20: do things that are very similar to some of the

1562
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 20: things that we do as well, you know, the zone

1563
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 20: blitzing and protecting deep part of the field. And historically

1564
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 20: they've always had a good defense and have a bunch

1565
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 20: of good players.

1566
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 9: So yeah, the players showed him to take them to

1567
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 9: the where you've heard before the day stup reactions.

1568
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 11: You know.

1569
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 20: That was the players, and we talked about artificially creating

1570
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 20: adversity during practice, and one of those ways is to

1571
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 20: go to the hill after a two hour and fifteen

1572
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 20: minute practice where you know, you go one or two ways.

1573
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 20: One way is like, ah, man, I got to go

1574
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 20: to the hill, and the other way is all right,

1575
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 20: we've got to break down, bust down through this wall

1576
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 20: and push our bodies because most of the time, and

1577
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 20: I tell the guys this all the time, like your

1578
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 20: mind is going to give up before your body gives up.

1579
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 20: And so being able to do that and go to

1580
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 20: the hill or take them to the deep water as

1581
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 20: we like to say, uh, because we do have a

1582
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 20: lot of faith in our conditioning and what we've gone

1583
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 20: through throughout the week and throughout the summer. The guys

1584
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 20: that started saying like for you know, most people say,

1585
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 20: oh fourth quarter, They were like, take them to the hill,

1586
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 20: and I love it.

1587
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 2: I love it.

1588
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 4: And that was from the players.

1589
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: You know, sorry the hill. Yeah I did.

1590
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 20: And one thing I would say is, you know, at

1591
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 20: least from my perspective, it was always one of those

1592
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 20: times where I'm just gonna prove everybody wrong anyway, you know,

1593
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 20: in college. I remember in college making coaches so mad

1594
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 20: because in college, what they would do, like say someone

1595
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 20: was late, they would get the whole team up and

1596
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 20: we would have to run and all that stuff, and

1597
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 20: that one guy wouldn't run. And so I used to

1598
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 20: make the coaches mad because I would just keep running.

1599
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 20: I would be laughing the entire time.

1600
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: The entire time.

1601
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 20: But being able to do that in tough times is

1602
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 20: definitely a good thing. I don't want to get into

1603
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 20: a lot of that. What I will say is, you know,

1604
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 20: he just has to continue to progress and continue to develop,

1605
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 20: both on the field and off the field. And you

1606
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 20: know that's my responsibility ultimately.

1607
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 9: Jer what did what did Seattle show you offensively? That

1608
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 9: has You're right or something?

1609
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 20: Yeah, I know most of the time we always talk

1610
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 20: about the quarterback first and foremost, which they haven't experienced quarterback.

1611
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 20: What I would say is just the run game. I

1612
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 20: think Kenneth he doesn't get a lot of hype. I

1613
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 20: don't know what his Matten rating is or anything like that.

1614
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 20: But when you turn on the film, like this guy

1615
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 20: pops off the film and he's a very aggressive runner.

1616
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 20: He can do it all. And then you look at

1617
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 20: the receivers, you know, different skill sets. There's a huge

1618
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 20: contrast between Lockett and Metcalf, but they have a good team,

1619
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 20: have a good offense.

1620
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 18: How difficult is it to game playing against the team

1621
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 18: that only has one game of film like the coaching staff.

1622
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 20: I mean, this is why I always preach about awareness.

1623
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 20: I mean it kind of goes back to that conversation,

1624
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 20: and you guys will probably get tired of me hearing,

1625
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 20: tired of me saying it, but these games go back

1626
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 20: to awareness. It's about you know, you can watch the

1627
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 20: film and at some point during the game they will

1628
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 20: revert back to what you know, who they are. Now,

1629
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 20: I'm saying that most teams script the first fifteen plays

1630
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 20: as key breaking type of plays or to get the

1631
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 20: ball in the hands of one of the guys that

1632
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 20: has to get started early. Same thing in the second half.

1633
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 20: So you know, take the first fifteen plays that are

1634
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 20: scripted to break the tendencies that we've watched on film.

1635
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 20: And this is why awareness, in my opinion, is more

1636
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 20: important than sixty percent of the time when they're in

1637
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 20: the gun, they're doing this. Sixty forty is like I

1638
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 20: can't play like that.

1639
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

1640
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: History. So I do the thing where you see somebody

1641
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: in their car they're about to leave, so you pull over,

1642
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: put your single line and just sit there. So this

1643
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 2: guy in a big tesla comes up right in front

1644
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: of me, starts giving me the hands like what what

1645
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm like? You know, mostly go around, go around? You know,

1646
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: He's like, you wouldn't do it, wouldn't go around. Finally,

1647
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: you know, he decides, oh, I'll go around. So he

1648
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 2: goes around, but then he decides to do a pull

1649
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: up rolldown. He pulls up next to Maxin. He pulls

1650
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: the pull up, pull up, roll down and pulls down

1651
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: the window. So he starts talking to me, and I

1652
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 2: just say keep driving. Just like that. You had the

1653
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: kids in the backseat. I don't care, but I just

1654
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: say keep he goes. We'll talk later. I know we won't.

1655
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 13: You know. That was it.

1656
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from all right back here on

1657
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: Patriots Unfiltered eight five five pass five hundred is the

1658
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 2: I TPX hotline web radio at patriots dot com. Is

1659
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: the email addresses Deuce, Paul, myself, Matt in the booth,

1660
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 2: Evan will be by later. We get a couple of

1661
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: phone calls, and I do want to talk about something

1662
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 2: we touched on yesterday. We didn't get to It was

1663
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:51,879
Speaker 2: reviews of Tom's first game as a play uh color analyst.

1664
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: But let's take these calls and then we'll get to that.

1665
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: Helen is in San Francisco. What's up, Hellen?

1666
01:14:59,120 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 12: Gentlemen?

1667
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 2: Can you Yes, we can.

1668
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 13: It's great.

1669
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 14: Sunday's unexpected wind put me over the moon. So I

1670
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 14: am calling to speak your perspective to bring.

1671
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 13: Me back down to earth.

1672
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 14: What are aspects of the team that fans are worrying

1673
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 14: about that they shouldn't be worrying about, And what are

1674
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 14: aspects of the.

1675
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,440
Speaker 10: Team that fans seem unconcerned about that they should.

1676
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 13: Be concerned about.

1677
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good one. So what are they worried

1678
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: about that they shouldn't be worried about? And what aren't

1679
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: they worried about that they should be That's.

1680
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 14: A tough question because I feel like the things they

1681
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 14: are worried about are what they should be worried about,

1682
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 14: like the offensive line and you know.

1683
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so should they be worried right now about when

1684
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: Drake may should play perfect?

1685
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 4: That's a perfect one. And there was a lot of that. Yeah,

1686
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 4: people saying like, should this accelerate Drake may coming back?

1687
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1688
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 8: Does it slow it down?

1689
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: We're not worried about the coaches, figured don't worry about

1690
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: when Drake and what are we worried about? Sorry, I.

1691
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 6: Would I would say pass rush.

1692
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 5: I would say the past rush.

1693
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 14: I think everybody know, and myself a great game, key

1694
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 14: On White, nice job, But the overall effectiveness of the

1695
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 14: pass rush, I don't that's something to me that really

1696
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 14: worries me. Uh, you know, if they can't scheme it

1697
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 14: up and they're not getting guys home. I think you're

1698
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 14: saying that people aren't worried about pass rush. They're thinking

1699
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 14: we got key On White's and all pro and that

1700
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 14: everything's going to be fine.

1701
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 5: Worry about the pass.

1702
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 4: Rush, okay, worry about the pass rush?

1703
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I worry. I don't know, like I worry about me,

1704
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 8: like I worry about everything.

1705
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 4: Like I don't necessarily think the offensive line is as

1706
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 4: big a concern as a lot of people have it

1707
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 4: to be.

1708
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 8: But I think it's a huge concern, you know what,

1709
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 8: Like I can't.

1710
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I'm not worried about right now,

1711
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: but I should be is what if David Andrews gets hurt.

1712
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm not thinking about it because I don't want to

1713
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: now I am.

1714
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 4: I would say depth in general, yeah, is right, I

1715
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 4: think because depth, I don't think they have a lot

1716
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 4: of depth on that.

1717
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 5: Team's Von Godshaw if he got hurt.

1718
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's out of my mind. But maybe

1719
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: I should be a little bit more worried about it.

1720
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: That's a good question, Helen, and thank you for that.

1721
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: Cameron is in North Carolina, Cam, what's up?

1722
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 12: Hey, guys. Yesterday one of the callers mentioned that if

1723
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 12: Jacobe were to go six and two, would Gerrod Mayo

1724
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 12: have the stones to pull him for Drake may And

1725
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 12: I don't think they should. I don't think will. But

1726
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 12: at the same time, if they're so strict to this plan,

1727
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 12: this developmental plan for Drake and it does get to that,

1728
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 12: say set game where they haven't planned that that would

1729
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 12: be the time to stick in Drake may Do you

1730
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 12: think they would still be strict to the plan or

1731
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 12: do you think that they would kind of push the

1732
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 12: plan back because of the success of the team. And

1733
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 12: I'll take it off there, thank you.

1734
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: I know we talked about it yesterday and I said,

1735
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: if they're winning games twelve to ten and they're six

1736
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: and two, I think they would. Now you disagree, right, Paul.

1737
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 4: Don't think there's any scenario that would exist that they

1738
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 4: would be six and two and make.

1739
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 8: A change other than an injury.

1740
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 4: And I don't know. It's a great question. It's a

1741
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 4: great scenario that he brings up. I would say, I

1742
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 4: don't know that they're playing. I know they have a plan.

1743
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 2: What if the two games for the last two games.

1744
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 5: I don't know that the.

1745
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 4: Plan specifically says in week X, Right, you know what

1746
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 4: I mean? Like, that's what the scenario he's trying to unfold. Like, right,

1747
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 4: they're saying, we're gonna let play the first eight games

1748
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 4: no matter what. Then May goes in. Right, and now

1749
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 4: does the plan change because there's six and two?

1750
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that.

1751
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 8: I don't think that's the way the plan is I

1752
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 8: set up?

1753
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 2: Right, I agree.

1754
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 14: I think the question of would you rather make the

1755
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 14: playoffs with Jakobe Rissett this year and not play May

1756
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 14: or miss the playoffs.

1757
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: And have May play, I'd rather make the playoffs.

1758
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 4: I think it's hard to say I would rather not

1759
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 4: make the playoffs. I know I want me to play

1760
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 4: as badly as anybody, probably except for Evan. But I

1761
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 4: I you know, if you're a fan of the team

1762
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 4: and you don't want them to make the playoffs, and

1763
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 4: I don't know how that, I don't know how you

1764
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 4: But now.

1765
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: Now people will say, oh, but you're adding extra pressure

1766
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 2: to him because next year you're going to expect him

1767
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 2: to go to the playoffs and it's his first year

1768
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah.

1769
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 5: You know, Jacoby gets him to the playoffs and then

1770
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 5: you start, may know, you think.

1771
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 2: That's a stretch. People are going to say, this team

1772
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 2: went to the playoffs with Jacoby Brissett, Drake may should

1773
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 2: at least get them to where he was.

1774
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 4: Well, when when he's ready, yeah, next year, I'm talking,

1775
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 4: but that's fair.

1776
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: If he's not ready next year, then what are we doing?

1777
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying when he's like, well, if he doesn't play

1778
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 4: at all this year, I'm going to tell you right now,

1779
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 4: he's not going to be ready at the start of

1780
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 4: next year.

1781
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 8: Ye see what next year?

1782
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 4: To play to this? He'll but no, but he will

1783
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 4: like Tom Brady wasn't ready when he just went in

1784
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 4: and ended up winning the Super Bowl.

1785
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 2: I know, but and Tom Brady wasn't the third overall pick.

1786
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 2: If let's just say, for whatever reason, Drake may doesn't

1787
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: play this year, he will be the Week one starter

1788
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: next year.

1789
01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1790
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 4: When I said not ready, I didn't mean like not ready,

1791
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 4: like the coaches won't play him. Yeah, I mean he's

1792
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 4: not going to be ready to be his best self. Quite.

1793
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 14: You can only get that by playing yes and taking

1794
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 14: your lumps and having some bad games.

1795
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: Of course, that's why that's that's why a lot of

1796
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 2: people like me want him in now.

1797
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 4: I want him in now too. Right now, that was

1798
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 4: a little felger like right there, Like I'm the only

1799
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 4: one that wants Drake made to play raised in Atlanta?

1800
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: What's that?

1801
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 13: Ray?

1802
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 16: Hey, I'm just checking anger to hear from you all

1803
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 16: another week and pretty much you know, we're we're on

1804
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 16: the right track, you know. I'll just keep a simple

1805
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 16: on his call. We're on the right track and we

1806
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 16: just need to protect Sat at all costs. And and

1807
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 16: like you guys said, make sure that you know Andrews

1808
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 16: is okay too, you know, because that's the point job

1809
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 16: that he has to do in the front. So those

1810
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 16: were on the right track, you know, without being ahead

1811
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 16: of ourselves or whatever. You know, we can take going.

1812
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 16: We can dominate the Seattle. We can we keep going,

1813
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 16: you know, with it. So that's all I got to

1814
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 16: say for this call. Man, good to hear from you, guys.

1815
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Ray, more with a statement than a question was coming,

1816
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 2: like Alex is in Greece? What's up? Alex?

1817
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, is are going good?

1818
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 2: Where in Greece are you? Okay? I don't know where

1819
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: that is, but.

1820
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 4: One thing that you could have said, Sparta?

1821
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: Are you in Sparta?

1822
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 11: No, I'm We're in Boston. The first first of my

1823
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 11: family born in America, and I moved back home with everybody.

1824
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 11: So yeah, So I just had a question kind of

1825
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 11: to play devil's advocate for the win the other week. Again,

1826
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 11: I know it's just week one and there's a long

1827
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 11: way to go, but are you guys worried if none

1828
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 11: of our offensive draft picks end up really picking up

1829
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 11: because Javon Baker already got suspend and that Polk wasn't

1830
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 11: involved Jahem Bell isn't really doing anything, would it be

1831
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 11: a disappointment for you guys if only Drake May is

1832
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 11: the person who really shows up this year and shows

1833
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 11: you anything because so far, I mean, we haven't really

1834
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 11: seen anything to be excited about from the young offensive weapons.

1835
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 11: So that's all I got.

1836
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: Minimally, I want I would not poke to do something.

1837
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 4: If Drake May pans out, I would not be upset.

1838
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I want the more guys that pan out,

1839
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 4: the better. But as long as Drake May panned.

1840
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: Out, what is he talking about Baker being suspended?

1841
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know where he got that is that

1842
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 8: unless I miss a report.

1843
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 5: I know some people were just didn't play.

1844
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: Thinking that maybe he didn't play for disciplinary reasons. A

1845
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 2: lot of people haven't heard anything.

1846
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 4: A lot of people thought Jalen Polk was open, you know,

1847
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 4: from time to time. So I'm not looking at like

1848
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 4: one game and saying, well, that's a disappointing draft pick.

1849
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 4: Jaean Bell was a seventh round pick. Like, if he

1850
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 4: pans out, great, you know, I'm not putting him in

1851
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 4: the same cat category. But if Drake May works out,

1852
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 4: that's worth.

1853
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 5: It for the biggest piece of the puzzle.

1854
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 14: But I mean, I'd be disappointed if Jalen Polk doesn't

1855
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 14: turn around have a good, you know, solid year.

1856
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 5: I'm not expecting him.

1857
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 4: To like, what would you rather have Like Jalen Polk,

1858
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 4: Jahem Bell and Javon Baker all work out and Drake

1859
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 4: may doesn't.

1860
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, the other way around, Jake may all day.

1861
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 14: I mean, that's the hardest piece to get, uh, and

1862
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 14: he's got all the talent in the world. So I mean,

1863
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 14: if they do get Drake May you know that, I mean,

1864
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 14: get Drake may By if he does become the guy,

1865
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 14: everything's on the table.

1866
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 5: As Ev't said, everything's on the table.

1867
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean back to Helen's question, what is something that

1868
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: right now we're not worried about that we should be

1869
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: should be we worried still about the equality of our

1870
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 2: draft picks, like getting back on track with making good drafts.

1871
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 4: Oh but if I was really like, all right, so

1872
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 4: we're going to go negative concerns, it's is, you know,

1873
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 4: basically my wheelhouse. Okay, So I would worry that how

1874
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 4: they played offensively is how they want to play.

1875
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: Right, But you're worried about it?

1876
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, how they played offensively in the game is not

1877
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 4: an aberration. That's how they want to go to He.

1878
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: Didn't be worried about it, No, I'm.

1879
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 4: That's something that I that I don't think a lot

1880
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 4: of people are worried about.

1881
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about you, but you are worried about it.

1882
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 8: So the question was so I think he just put

1883
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 8: me in.

1884
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 4: I felt like we were doing picks. All of a sudden,

1885
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 4: he put me in the grinder. The question was, what

1886
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 4: is something that you're worried about that other people aren't

1887
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 4: know that you shouldn't be No, he asked for both.

1888
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 4: Helen asked, I know, but.

1889
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't what are you worried about that other people?

1890
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 2: It's like, what are you worried about that you shouldn't

1891
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 2: be worried about?

1892
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,879
Speaker 4: Okay, well, this is something that other people aren't worried about.

1893
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 2: But I am bringing other people. I want to know

1894
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: your opinion.

1895
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 4: I just told you. Okay, how they play offense is

1896
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 4: something that I would I would be worried about that.

1897
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 4: Fans aren't they think that Sunday was great?

1898
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 8: Right?

1899
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 4: That's what that was the second part.

1900
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 2: That's the spirit of the question.

1901
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 4: Ask something that the fans aren't worried about that they

1902
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 4: should be. I don't correct. I think that was one

1903
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 4: of the two questions. Okay, what are fans not worried

1904
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 4: about that they should.

1905
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: Be and you're telling them that, I would say that,

1906
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 2: all right, all right.

1907
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 4: I think you should be worried about how they want

1908
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 4: to play offense. Yeah, because I've heard Alex van Pelt

1909
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 4: say it all summer. I've heard Gerrod Meo say it

1910
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 4: all summer. What they did on Sunday wasn't like by accident,

1911
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 4: the way the game plan unfolded. That's how they want

1912
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 4: to play. I don't think you can win doing that. Yeah,

1913
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 4: I'm on record as saying that I would be worried

1914
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 4: about that.

1915
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1916
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: I think a lot of fans, A lot of fans.

1917
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 4: Aren't, including the guy who said yesterday, if they play

1918
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 4: like that all year, they can win eleven games.

1919
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 2: He did, well, they have to have two games where

1920
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: they score twenty six or more.

1921
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a lot of qualifiers. But if you

1922
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 4: play like that, you ain't scoring twenty six.

1923
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: All right. We talked a little bit about talking about

1924
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's debut as a color analyst. I heard a

1925
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: little bit about it. I didn't watch or listen to

1926
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: the whole game, but I tuned in from time to time.

1927
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 2: To me, it was just weird hearing his voice in

1928
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 2: that contest. Sure, it was just weird.

1929
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to be. I want to turn this over

1930
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 4: to Mike because I think he has something here, not major.

1931
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: The one thing that I'll say which kind of contradicts

1932
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 4: what I've often said about the announceers, like I make

1933
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 4: fun of the Syracuse bots. Yeah, his voice was funny. Yeah,

1934
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 4: his voice sounded funny on the air.

1935
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 17: To me.

1936
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: What a catch and what a throw?

1937
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 17: Right.

1938
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 8: I don't think he perfect.

1939
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 9: Right.

1940
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 14: It wasn't a big take that I have, but I

1941
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 14: just felt like he was guy pointing out things that

1942
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 14: everybody sees, you know, everybody sees like you need more

1943
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 14: from a color analyst, especially from a guy like Brady.

1944
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 14: And we talked a little bit about Romo, you know,

1945
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 14: maybe using some of the pregame meetings to forecast things.

1946
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 2: But I like that, like I when first started, did

1947
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 2: you like him or not?

1948
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 5: Like I did like him?

1949
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: I'd like him. I did like him.

1950
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 14: I got you know, it's a kind of gun stale

1951
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 14: and I don't really listen to these guys anyway. We

1952
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 14: just kind of watched the game and talk amongst ourselves.

1953
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 14: But I want insight from Brady. I want to know

1954
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 14: what's going through his mind. If he were watching this

1955
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 14: coverage and in stead, he's like and Marca Parson's off

1956
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 14: the edge, and yeah, there he is, and he sacked him.

1957
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 14: You know, like, I know, I know, I like, tell

1958
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 14: me something. I don't know, Tom, you know, and again

1959
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 14: like I think he's new and it's probably get better.

1960
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 4: But what it might being a mean to hate by

1961
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 4: Brady lying hatred or Brady just comes out at all times.

1962
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

1963
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: I love that man.

1964
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 4: Now, I thought it was exactly what Mike said. I

1965
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 4: didn't really hear anything. I didn't watch the game start

1966
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 4: to finish. I did, believe it or not very rare

1967
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 4: for me. I shut off Red Zone and put on

1968
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 4: Fox so I could hear like a driver or two

1969
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Now by the time that happened,

1970
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 4: because you know, we were doing the post game by

1971
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 4: the time I got home. But you know, the game

1972
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 4: was pretty much decided. But like there was one deep

1973
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 4: ball that Watson put right in Amari Cooper's hands. Brady

1974
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 4: didn't say anything about being dropped or anything like that.

1975
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 14: I was like, yeah, come on, yeah, it's not conventional,

1976
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 14: but I'd almost rather just the playback by play.

1977
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 5: Shut up.

1978
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 14: Let Tom Brady just talk as if he's the quarterback

1979
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 14: watching the line of scrimmage. Just rattle it off, buddy,

1980
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 14: what are you seeing, safeties?

1981
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 5: What are you looking for? Is he you know, like

1982
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,560
Speaker 5: just blasted out. You know, it's perfect, Mike, that's it

1983
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 5: had too much dead air.

1984
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 4: He's circling Micah. Yeah, circling Micah Parsons. So tell us,

1985
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 4: like what's going through your head? Like, okay, so obviously

1986
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 4: this guy's been disruptive all day. You need to slide

1987
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 4: the protection over here. Deshaun Watson doesn't do that quickly

1988
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 4: enough something you know, that's very rudimentary, Like he should

1989
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 4: be able to do that, you know, at a very

1990
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 4: high PhD level football wise.

1991
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 8: And I didn't hear any of that.

1992
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 2: I heard one person say that the fact that he

1993
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,879
Speaker 2: said the quarterback got lucky on a couple of Frozer's

1994
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 2: evidence that he's going to be critical of players that

1995
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 2: kind of lucky.

1996
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 10: There.

1997
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 2: That's it.

1998
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 4: Like I just I was envisioning if Brady threw the

1999
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 4: ball to Cooper. I just was envisioning Amari Cooper never

2000
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 4: getting the ball thrown to him again. Yeah, like he

2001
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 4: would have been so Brady would have been so mad

2002
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 4: because like Watson. Like Watson didn't play well in that game,

2003
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 4: but he got the snot kicked out of him. And

2004
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 4: like in the fourth quarter of a twenty point game,

2005
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 4: he dropped a dime to Cooper and it went off

2006
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 4: his hands. I didn't think he gave a great effort

2007
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 4: for it. I think he gave a scoreboard kind of

2008
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 4: effort for it, like we're down anyway, and I think

2009
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 4: Brady would have lost his mind if that pass didn't

2010
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 4: get caught for him.

2011
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: It's funny because there were two promotional videos having to

2012
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: do with Brady getting you know, one was that video

2013
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 2: with the binders and he showed how like he had

2014
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,839
Speaker 2: binders on every team and he's doing all this research.

2015
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 2: And then there was more of like a teaser that

2016
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: Fox put out where you know, the different Tom Brady's

2017
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 2: throughout his career comes to him about how it's always

2018
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 2: about the work you put in and you're the goat.

2019
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 2: And so I came into the game thinging, Okay, this

2020
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 2: guy wouldn't allow that to go out unless he had

2021
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: really put in a different level of preparation and maybe

2022
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: he's going to raise the bar for all other analysts

2023
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: and make it. But it was really vanilla.

2024
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 14: I mean by it like everybody's just going, well, he'll

2025
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 14: get better, like he's just he's very well, but you

2026
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 14: can get better from the clips late than he did early.

2027
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, how much I.

2028
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: Mean too to Matt's point, there was a lot of

2029
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 2: dead air where who was the guy doing the game

2030
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 2: with him? I figured Kevin Burkhart. He would stop talking,

2031
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: and that's you know, obviously where the color analyst goes in.

2032
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 2: And Tom just said nothing true. And I don't know

2033
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 2: if that's why he's rainy Defensive Player of the Year.

2034
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't know if he was coached Tom.

2035
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: If you don't know what to say or don't have

2036
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 2: anything to say, don't say anything, maybe he was coached

2037
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 2: that way, but it was it was a little awkward

2038
01:30:58,280 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 2: at times.

2039
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 8: I think vanilla is a good word two that you used. Fred.

2040
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure he will get better, and he's

2041
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 4: never he's never done it. That was his first ever game. Yeah,

2042
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 4: and I know practice, but it's a little bit different.

2043
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 4: So he will get better, but I'm not sure that.

2044
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 4: Like there's been a lot of you know, the Brady

2045
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 4: support and you know there's a million out there, but like, well,

2046
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 4: everybody told him he couldn't do X, Y and Z

2047
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 4: coming out of college, and that it's not the same.

2048
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 8: You can't.

2049
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 4: You can't just like lift more weights and study more.

2050
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 4: Like he knows football better than anyone that's doing that job,

2051
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 4: Like you're not like he knows what it's not like,

2052
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 4: it's not in his personality. I don't think to be

2053
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 4: like to me in engaging on air personality. I just

2054
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 4: don't think he has that.

2055
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 7: How long until it's a three person booth.

2056
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 8: That's a good point.

2057
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 2: I from the day it was announced, I never thought

2058
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 2: i'd see the day where he would do it. I

2059
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 2: thought something would happen where it wouldn't happen. But there

2060
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 2: he is. From Evan's here.

2061
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 5: Hello, two songs on the More was the first one.

2062
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 5: I don't worry about.

2063
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 2: All right, Evan, what do you got for us? Well?

2064
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 21: Well, well, Patriots back out at practice on Wednesday, and

2065
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,879
Speaker 21: although no disrespect to city, so who was not at practice,

2066
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,560
Speaker 21: I thought it was good news that everybody else was

2067
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 21: at practice. So you come off a game and it

2068
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 21: seems like they got out of that game relatively healthy.

2069
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 21: I'm sure there's some bumps and bruises, we never got

2070
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 21: to the injured, but there were no big injuries. Everybody

2071
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 21: at practice today besides City, Like I said, he wasn't

2072
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 21: at practice at all last week either. So uh, some

2073
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 21: good news, some bad news, but I would say mostly good.

2074
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 2: It's nice when the other team doesn't fight back.

2075
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 5: I'm starting to wonder a little bit about the City.

2076
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 14: Like, I know, like it probably wasn't the catastrophic Achilles

2077
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 14: tar that we thought at first, but you were a

2078
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 14: little bit, you know, curious about what it actually was.

2079
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 5: It's just I mean, it seems like it's it's something significant.

2080
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 4: Maybe it's if it's just like they still calling an ankle, yes,

2081
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 4: it could it be like could it be a strained calf,

2082
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 4: you know, like high you know something like that.

2083
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 8: You know, you look at what they're dealing with McCaffrey.

2084
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 21: Now, yeah, you worry about the the Kristaps Porzingis injury

2085
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 21: where it was like the right up his calf and

2086
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 21: it's like the ligament that attaches to the achilles. But

2087
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 21: it's not the Achilles itself. The problem is is that

2088
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 21: if you play on it too early, then the Achilles

2089
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 21: is next.

2090
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 4: And I wonder if they did that, if I wonder

2091
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 4: if he went to practice because he was back on

2092
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 4: the practice field one of those days, right last week,

2093
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 4: the week between the game and then the game week,

2094
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 4: right the week between the Washington game and game week,

2095
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 4: wasn't he on the practice field once?

2096
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 21: I maybe very briefly, but I haven't seen him participate

2097
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 21: in any like extended practice since the injury.

2098
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 8: So okay, so maybe I'm miss remembering that.

2099
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 6: Okay, yep, So yeah, there we go.

2100
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 2: I hear it was pads today.

2101
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 6: Pads today, full pads, yep.

2102
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 21: And it's it's cool because we actually, because of when

2103
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 21: locker room is, we actually get to see them on

2104
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 21: the pads, putting on the pads and getting ready for practice.

2105
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 6: So now it makes my job easier. It's one less

2106
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 6: thing that I have to note.

2107
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 2: To note because you've already seen I've already seen it.

2108
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 6: So I saw them putting the pads on, and I

2109
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 6: was like, pads today. Mental note.

2110
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 2: Girod mentioned that they are going to announce who are

2111
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 2: with the practice players of the week, but they were

2112
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 2: in the black jerseys that they did in the past.

2113
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 21: They were indeed, yes, they were indeed wearing those and

2114
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 21: I thought it was interesting on that list. A couple

2115
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 21: of the claims, the waiver claims made that list, so

2116
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 21: maybe that's an indication all of them were inactive for

2117
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 21: the game on Sunday. Maybe that's an indication that those

2118
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 21: guys are getting closer to contributing.

2119
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 2: So so you've seen these practices before, even you know,

2120
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 2: in season practices, and you get to see the warm ups, right,

2121
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 2: conditioning and the stretching. Avid, was there more up tempo

2122
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: from our starting quarterback during that session than you've seen.

2123
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 6: In the past, more up tempo like or just more

2124
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 6: of a.

2125
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 2: Feeling of I'm I'm the captain, I'm I'm the leader

2126
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:20,839
Speaker 2: of the team from Jacoby Brissett.

2127
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 8: Oddly specific question.

2128
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say so.

2129
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 21: I think he's kind of been the same guy, the

2130
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 21: same guy, Okay, since he started training camp, and I

2131
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 21: think he's pretty much been the same. But they did

2132
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 21: say that Joe Milton was the practice player of the week,

2133
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 21: and so he was out there in a in a

2134
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 21: black jersey and it was Joe Burrow, I guess right,

2135
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 21: Joe Burrow. Yeah, him and Drake may mimicking Joe Burrow

2136
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 21: on the scout team last week. So it was it

2137
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 21: was about the same, I would say in terms of

2138
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 21: his his energy or his mood. But the one thing

2139
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 21: I with these practices is a little bit different is

2140
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 21: that the skill players, both offensively and defensively, not the line,

2141
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 21: the defensive line and the offensive liner are doing their

2142
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 21: own thing. But they're doing a lot of that conditioning

2143
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 21: work that we saw them do in in a training

2144
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 21: camp where they were like running through the the ladders

2145
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 21: and like stuff like that to start practice. They're doing

2146
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 21: a lot of that work band work, you know, things

2147
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 21: of that nature. While that is you know, we are

2148
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 21: able to watch practice, so that's going on still even

2149
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 21: into the season now that they're warming up in that way.

2150
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,600
Speaker 14: Think it's actually called the dynamic warm up seriously in

2151
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 14: fun of the dynamic kick up, but they called this

2152
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 14: like a dynamic warm up.

2153
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just interesting.

2154
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 21: I thought that, you know, they we had the whole

2155
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 21: take them to the Hills thing, you know, from the

2156
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 21: game on Sunday, and it does seem like the conditioning

2157
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 21: stuff is real. You know that they are really taking

2158
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 21: that seriously, and they have the guys out there, you know,

2159
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 21: the corners, the safeties, linebackers, receivers, quarterbacks, running backs, tight ends,

2160
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 21: those guys are out there doing these long shunning stuff.

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01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2162
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 2: Now, I know you can't verify because you don't get

2163
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 2: to see all the practice. But the report that Drake

2164
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:05,919
Speaker 2: May was getting thirty percent of the first team snaps

2165
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 2: in practice, yes, surprising to you? Is that number seemed

2166
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 2: just right too high? Too little? What do you think?

2167
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 21: I would say, maybe a little too high, too high.

2168
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 21: I did have a conversation with Drake in the locker

2169
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:23,560
Speaker 21: room before practice, and that was not the impression. I

2170
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 21: don't know who reported that though, so I don't want

2171
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 21: to like throw any shade at somebody.

2172
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 4: Someone said the sideline report, Mike and I were probably

2173
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 4: deep in conversation, so we missed it. Someone said that

2174
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 4: the sideline reporter, okay reported that. Yeah, that that's definitely.

2175
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 21: I mean, look, he was the backup quarterback, so he's

2176
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 21: going to get a couple of reps towards the end

2177
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 21: of every team period, you would think, just because if

2178
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 21: he has to play in the game, he's got to

2179
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 21: be somewhat ready. So maybe that that's probably probably maybe normal,

2180
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 21: Like I don't know, I.

2181
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Don't know, that's why.

2182
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what a normal number would be.

2183
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 21: Yeah, I do know that he did a lot of

2184
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,560
Speaker 21: scout team stuff though that was big, And one of

2185
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 21: the things that he was saying to me was just

2186
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,719
Speaker 21: that it's good because he's going up against the starting

2187
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 21: defense of the Patriots. He's going up against a really

2188
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 21: good defense, mostly with practice squad guys and backups at

2189
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 21: his skill positions, and he's got to go out there

2190
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 21: and mimic Joe Burrow and make stuff happen and try

2191
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 21: to make throws on a really good defense.

2192
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 6: So I think that is good for him.

2193
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Mike and Wilmington formerly Bill Ricca rights in. I

2194
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: saw a tweet of this is really a question for Evan,

2195
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 2: he says, but.

2196
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, please be quiet.

2197
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,719
Speaker 2: I saw a tweet of someone who tracked every team's

2198
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 2: use of motion on offense. Patriots used motion the fifth

2199
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 2: fewest percentage of offensive plays in motion during the snap,

2200
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 2: the second fewest. The teams near us were the Browns

2201
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 2: and the Panthers. I know the Patriots are always near

2202
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 2: the bottom of the league in motion. Is this purely

2203
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 2: a personal issue or do our coaches not know how

2204
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 2: to use motion to get the most out of the offense.

2205
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 2: Teams like the Chiefs, Dolphins, Niners, use motion on over

2206
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the plays.

2207
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 21: Yeah, so the day I saw from Next Gen had

2208
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 21: the Patriots like more middle of the pack than that.

2209
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2210
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 21: Sometimes how you classify different types of motions can be

2211
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 21: different from one person to the other. But they don't

2212
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 21: major in motion in this offense. They did a little

2213
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 21: bit more under O'Brien. I would say last year they

2214
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 21: are like twelfth, I want to say in motion rate,

2215
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 21: So they have done it a little bit more in

2216
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 21: the past. I think the biggest thing is that if

2217
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 21: you're going to motion, then you want the motion to

2218
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 21: have a purpose. You don't want to just motion for

2219
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,799
Speaker 21: the sake of motioning. And I think sometimes certain coaches

2220
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 21: believe that as much as it can cause issues for

2221
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 21: the defense, it almost causes as many issues for the

2222
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 21: offense if you're not quite buttoned up on everything that

2223
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 21: you're doing. So I'm a big fan of motion, especially

2224
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 21: in the run game, because I think it creates angles

2225
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,839
Speaker 21: and it creates numbers to certain size of the formation

2226
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 21: in the run game. And then obviously if you show

2227
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 21: the same motion, then that can be eye candy to

2228
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 21: the defense on play action to sequence those things together

2229
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 21: that oh, here comes that motion again, that means they're

2230
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 21: probably running this run play. Oh actually no, now it's

2231
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 21: play action. So those are ways that you can kind

2232
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 21: of dress up plays for play.

2233
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 2: It's also a way for the quarterback to see how

2234
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:19,919
Speaker 2: the defense reacts.

2235
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like pre snap shifting is big with that.

2236
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 21: The Patriots with Brady used to do that all the time,

2237
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 21: where they'd shift Edelman from one side to the other.

2238
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 21: If somebody follows him, it's probably man to man coverage.

2239
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 21: If somebody doesn't and you kind of bump over, then

2240
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 21: it's probably zone coverage. But defenses have actually wised up

2241
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 21: to that. And the Patriots did this a couple of

2242
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 21: times on Sunday where they put Gonzales on Chase in

2243
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,640
Speaker 21: the slot and then played zone out of it. So

2244
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 21: that would normally be a man to man indicator for

2245
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 21: the defense because like Gonzales traveling into the slot with

2246
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 21: Chase and then they would drop out and play cover

2247
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 21: two And I think that confused Burrow a little bit.

2248
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 21: So defenses have kind of caught up to that chess

2249
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 21: match a little And.

2250
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:04,560
Speaker 2: To Paul is still Mike and Wilmington before. But this

2251
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 2: doesn't feel any different than previous Bill offenses post Brady

2252
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 2: just fewer penalties than I expected.

2253
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, I would kind of the one thing that

2254
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 4: really stood out to me from a positive aspect is

2255
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 4: the penalties, Like every day in practice, you know it

2256
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 4: was it was a false start fest and there was

2257
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,639
Speaker 4: I think one. I think Vederian logo called for one

2258
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 4: false start, so that to me, they cleaned that up.

2259
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 4: That was a really good sign.

2260
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 2: Eight five five past five hundred is the TPX hotline.

2261
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 2: Justina is in North Carolina. I hate Justina.

2262
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 13: It's me or Dan. I just wanted to just say

2263
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 13: that I'm not convinced about and I think Mayo was

2264
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 13: singing and talk about you want us to get three

2265
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 13: hundred yards. So he's trying to be podcasting about evidence

2266
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 13: because evidence said that they didn't get enough passing yard.

2267
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 13: And I also that T shirt with Tennessee t shirt.

2268
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 13: I think they're trying to make fun of, you know,

2269
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 13: playing at add team which Duced himself said oh that

2270
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 13: he felt that day wasn't gonna be as good because

2271
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 13: he from he just he faced some bad defensive league

2272
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 13: and I kind of wish people would stop judging him

2273
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 13: by the league he came from the Fighters, challenge yet

2274
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 13: and I'm just not convinced that that Jacobe was the

2275
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 13: one the one yet because he yeah, he said, he said,

2276
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 13: I will I load the protoplay and I get dunk

2277
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 13: and and and run and in the run play he did.

2278
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 13: He he said he learned from other quarterbacks where he's

2279
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 13: learned from his quarterback on his team right now, Drake

2280
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 13: may Jack Raggy knows those things. Jakhobe never ran before.

2281
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 13: What I understand now all of a sudden, he's bunny,

2282
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:10,560
Speaker 13: but you know, I'm not not yet. And at the

2283
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 13: same time, I am concerned that if they don't get

2284
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 13: to get the guy that blocking, that block, that hit

2285
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 13: that kept hitting hitting and hitting him, he will him.

2286
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 13: He and Drake would be hurt because that that that

2287
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 13: guy that uh Kobe got up a little bobbed a

2288
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 13: couple of times, and I know they need to cover

2289
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 13: that that end that letting somebody letting the guy get through.

2290
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 11: Uh.

2291
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 13: Also, I'm not too happy about the things that that

2292
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 13: last that was the coach from last year stay about uh.

2293
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 13: He's been saying about Drake and he's not the first

2294
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 13: he said it was his footwork and now he's saying,

2295
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 13: you just doesn't read spirits reading. I hear.

2296
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 2: Ye, all right, thanks just data, good stuff.

2297
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 5: Like the coach from last year, the coach from last year.

2298
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna start calling him that too.

2299
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2300
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 14: I didn't I saw what Bill said. I just thought,

2301
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 14: that's kind of what anybody's been telling us. I mean,

2302
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 14: that's what Brady kind of said. I mean, it's what

2303
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 14: did Bill say. It's just that he's got a long

2304
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 14: way to go, and he needs to work on his

2305
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 14: footwork and.

2306
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 6: Talent with Patricia.

2307
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 8: The thing from a couple of weeks ago. Okay, it

2308
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 8: was last week.

2309
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 4: I got to be honest with you. I didn't catch

2310
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,440
Speaker 4: most of that. Well, it was a tough connection.

2311
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 2: Calling from the State Fair, so there was a lot

2312
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 2: going on in the background.

2313
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you guys will have to fill in some

2314
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 8: of the blanks after the show.

2315
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 21: Okay, but bo Nicks is ready to play two picks

2316
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 21: worst quarterback in the league in Week one. He's ready

2317
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 21: to play Drake May two years away.

2318
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 6: Two years away. Good stuff to It's tough. Long way

2319
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 6: to go, Mike, long way to go.

2320
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 2: Let's go to Nate in the northern eastern Pennsylvania. Various

2321
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 2: northeastern Pennsylvania. What's Nate? What up? Deuce?

2322
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 5: I got something for you, Thank God Jesus sitting here

2323
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 5: it's boring.

2324
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 22: Now I'm gonna put your mind in a blender with

2325
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 22: the pronunciation of one of our players names. Okay, okay,

2326
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 22: And the only reason I'm picking on you is because

2327
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 22: of the age old Chandler versus sham. I don't know

2328
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 22: if you've caught during the broadcast this past week, but

2329
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 22: I think it was Iron Eagle who josh josh Ja

2330
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 22: now wants to be.

2331
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 4: Known as josh Oh. I know it's actually Joshua, Joshua,

2332
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 4: mister Joshua. Yes, that's something that came out very early

2333
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 4: in the off season.

2334
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 5: Yeah. Correct. If you notice in my writing he's always

2335
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 5: referred to as Joshua.

2336
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 8: Correct.

2337
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 22: Ye all right, good, as long as you know, I'm sorry,

2338
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 22: I didn't know.

2339
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 2: You already knew this.

2340
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, pr photos to that.

2341
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 4: We have to know that because we can't, you know,

2342
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:00,879
Speaker 4: can't yeh, can't have any missteps?

2343
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 8: Joshua.

2344
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 22: There you go?

2345
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 2: All right?

2346
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 5: Can I can?

2347
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 2: I can?

2348
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 13: I can?

2349
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 5: I give a little bit of nonsense.

2350
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 14: I just can't stop thinking about this, and I might

2351
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 14: regret saying this right now, but like my nonsense, we

2352
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 14: had a call from Greece, and then we had a

2353
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 14: woman named Helen call, so it was like the Trojan

2354
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 14: warring here, like Helen, Troy and Grease.

2355
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2356
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 5: I just that I can't tell not as good as

2357
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 5: your normal nonsense. But yeah, I'm sorry, I don't know

2358
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:23,679
Speaker 5: what it is. But I was just like, Wow, that's weird,

2359
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 5: and that's what we need. Was there an Achilles calling

2360
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:29,600
Speaker 5: or what's going on?

2361
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 4: Probably not.

2362
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 2: I had a more would just be silly. I had

2363
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 2: a more inappropriate joke that I said during the break,

2364
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 2: but I can't repeat it. Let's see little trivia ready,

2365
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 2: Oh nice Patriots trivia with the upcoming Seahawks game one.

2366
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 2: Don't look, I couldn't read it. What is the Seahawks

2367
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:54,759
Speaker 2: record at Jillette Stadium?

2368
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 5: They won the last one?

2369
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 21: Yeah, I remember that they lost in four. Dude, I'll

2370
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 21: say at to Lette Stadium. At stadium, I'm going to

2371
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 21: say I was just one and two.

2372
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,839
Speaker 5: I'm going to say one and one and one is correct.

2373
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 6: I didn't know if there was one back in the day.

2374
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 8: I didn't know about So they lost, Yeah, they lost

2375
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 8: the last one.

2376
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:17,720
Speaker 4: It was a night game.

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Speaker 5: Like off a by second play fifteen, I want to say, yeah, and.

2378
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,560
Speaker 8: Then they the Patriots one. I want to say in

2379
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 8: like three, I.

2380
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 5: Think Brady on his on his butt through a pass

2381
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 5: in that game.

2382
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 4: I think I don't recall that. I remember him something

2383
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 4: to pass from his butt against Cincinnazi.

2384
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 8: Maybe that was the different one.

2385
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 4: I want to say, a Matt Hasselbeck led Seahawks team

2386
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 4: in a reasonably high scoring affair.

2387
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, I watched that one. You remember the cover

2388
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 2: for PFW.

2389
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 8: No, no, it wasn't bad Kitty. You could have had

2390
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 8: bad Kitty this week.

2391
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 4: I could have, and they when they beat the Bengals

2392
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,839
Speaker 4: and Fred putt, I mean, the Bengals beat the Patriots

2393
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 4: the opener in one and it was bad bad kitty

2394
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 4: with the Bengal.

2395
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 6: On today's day in age does not mean the same

2396
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 6: thing as Freddy.

2397
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 4: Freddy has a lot of really really cool covers under

2398
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 4: his belts.

2399
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 8: That just wasn't one of them. And Indy and I

2400
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 8: have been busting his balls about it ever since.

2401
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 2: So personal take, you know, like you couldn't see like

2402
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 2: personal preference.

2403
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 5: He cat whipped And there it is.

2404
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

2405
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:28,440
Speaker 2: The overall regular season record between the Patriots and Seahawks

2406
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 2: is ten and eight. Who has the most.

2407
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 5: Wins Seattle, New England?

2408
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 4: They've been bad, I'll say the Patriots, Patriots, Seahawks.

2409
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 2: And finally, how many touchdown passes did Brady have in

2410
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: that Super Bowl game? For four?

2411
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 6: Corrected? Who is the fourth one.

2412
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,759
Speaker 5: Man? The other guy Monk Edelman?

2413
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 14: And yeah, still that from like the behind shot in

2414
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 14: the end zone and it's just like a sea of

2415
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 14: hands and like the ball.

2416
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 6: Just like I think he hits the same exact points

2417
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 6: to Josh.

2418
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the go ahead, game winner.

2419
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 21: Game winner I think they throw to a doola is

2420
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 21: the same one as the championship games against Jacksonville.

2421
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:29,839
Speaker 2: Uh, Corey in Boston. Do you guys think Jacoby's performance

2422
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 2: last Sunday against the Bengals could help solidify the Patriots

2423
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 2: winning formula with his mobility throughout the course of the season.

2424
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

2425
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 4: I do think he played pretty well for the most part.

2426
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:47,879
Speaker 4: But no, I don't think a lot of his mobility

2427
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 4: was escaping sacks. I don't think that's a good for success.

2428
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 21: Yeah, his sack avoidance and just like overall managing of pressure.

2429
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 21: It's hard to not have that kind of pressure become

2430
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 21: catastrophic to the offense, and he avoided the catastrophic mistakes.

2431
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 21: But I do think he's getting a lot of credit

2432
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 21: for that. Yeah, and you know, there were some throws

2433
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 21: I felt like he missed in the game that he's

2434
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:16,560
Speaker 21: not getting dnked for necessarily. But he did do a

2435
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 21: really good job like that. Some young quarterbacks you put

2436
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 21: them in a fifty percent pressure rate like that, and

2437
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 21: there you're gonna have three turnovers, you know, no sweat.

2438
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 21: So the fact that they didn't turn the ball over

2439
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 21: like crazy is impressive.

2440
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I would agree more postgame suggestions. Big fan of

2441
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: the show. Really appreciate the guys keeping us in formed,

2442
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 2: especially for those of us that have the misfortune of

2443
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 2: leaving New England. On the topic of the postgame show,

2444
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 2: please he has some capital letters. Cool it with the

2445
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 2: mid show fan calls. I know Paul already mentioned it

2446
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 2: on the pod, but it really disrupted the flow of

2447
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 2: the conversation. Love my Patriots fans out there, but I

2448
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 2: tune in to hear your valuable insight. Not to here

2449
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 2: fellow fans ask the same five questions. No shade to

2450
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 2: Matt Smith. He seems like a fine, fellow, but that's

2451
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,839
Speaker 2: definitely an adjustment worth making as the season progresses.

2452
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 4: No, it's not we're going to take calls and we're

2453
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 4: going to have interaction with the fans every week.

2454
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think the timing of it is what he's

2455
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 2: talking about. Like I said mid show, don't don't interrupt

2456
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 2: your conversation to do it, like if you're in a flow.

2457
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 6: If you're in a flow and.

2458
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 5: I see what he's saying, I I think I respect that.

2459
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I didn't listen that closely.

2460
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,679
Speaker 4: So the only my only think, like, we have segments

2461
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 4: in the pre and post game show that I think

2462
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 4: should run like when we were when we were doing

2463
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 4: the keys to the game. Yeah, we shouldn't do two

2464
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 4: keys to the game and then take a call and

2465
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 4: then do two more keys of the game. We're doing Good, Bad,

2466
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 4: the Injured. We do that until we're done. Yeah, and

2467
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 4: that basically is that's a good forty five minutes like

2468
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 4: the Good, the Bad, the Injured. I would say that

2469
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:58,560
Speaker 4: I agree with the emailer on that we should, but

2470
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 4: everybody but he has a voice.

2471
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: I think it's important after games to let people vent,

2472
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 2: either either celebrate or vent.

2473
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 4: I think it's hugely important, especially in postgames.

2474
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean why we're here. We're here as a service.

2475
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but because I felt sometimes

2476
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 14: like we were starting to get into a little thing

2477
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 14: and then we kind of broke it up to go

2478
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 14: to calls.

2479
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 5: You know, maybe that's what he meant.

2480
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 14: Where it wasn't necessarily just taking calls in general, but

2481
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 14: it's if you feel like a flow is kind of

2482
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 14: starting and you're in a rhythm with something, don't break

2483
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 14: it up for the college.

2484
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe that's what he was talking about. We'll yell

2485
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 4: at Matt later.

2486
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 2: Jordan Hawaii. I know this is turning the page day. However,

2487
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 2: I want to go back to week one to discuss something.

2488
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 2: How do you guys feel about the other rookie quarterbacks

2489
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 2: as started? Looks like many of them struggled. Does the

2490
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 2: fact that many of them struggle change your opinion on

2491
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 2: sitting Drake may or at least validate the team's decision

2492
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 2: to give him more time to develop. No, it doesn't change.

2493
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 2: My opinion doesn't change either. I expect these guys to struggle.

2494
01:52:59,360 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 5: That's the whole.

2495
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 4: That's why I want to get it out of your system.

2496
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 2: Learn from what you can and can't do, make mistakes,

2497
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 2: you know, learn from doing or not doing. And I

2498
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,560
Speaker 2: would expect all these guys to struggle Peyton. You know,

2499
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 2: the famous example we use is Peyton Manning. He had

2500
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 2: more interceptions and you know, than touchdowns his first year,

2501
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 2: but the Colts knew what they had in him. I

2502
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 2: think it wasn't a big deal.

2503
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 14: It's is gonna be interesting to see the progression of

2504
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 14: these guys because you know, we did this as our

2505
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 14: topic on PU and there's certainly value from starting and playing,

2506
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 14: but it only really matters if you're able to get

2507
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 14: better and improve because if you know these guys, if

2508
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 14: you know, how do all three of these guys do?

2509
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 14: I mean, maybe one of them it starts to unravel

2510
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 14: for him and instead of getting better, it starts to

2511
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 14: get worse, and you know they're not seeing things and

2512
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 14: you know then they got to take a time out.

2513
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 5: So it'll be interesting.

2514
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 14: There's three of them, so start right out of the gate,

2515
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:50,759
Speaker 14: see how they progress here in the coming week.

2516
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 21: I think, and if anything, Jacobe's performance justifies the team's decision.

2517
01:53:55,200 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 21: The Patriots decision to go this direction because won the

2518
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,560
Speaker 21: game you know, like, I don't feel like other quarterbacks

2519
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 21: really have much bearing to me. But if the whole

2520
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 21: decision was could Jacoby's going to manage the game, He's

2521
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 21: going to keep them in games and keep them competitive,

2522
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 21: all Drake gets to one hundred percent already, then if you.

2523
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 4: Want one, if you wanted to start Drake may because

2524
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 4: you thought he was going to be the better choice,

2525
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 4: like go to he's going to be like ready to

2526
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 4: go right out of the shoot, then I think you

2527
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 4: probably were wrong. Like the performance by Caleb Williams and

2528
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 4: Bow Knicks and Jayden Daniels was none of not the

2529
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 4: least of which none of them surprising at all. Like

2530
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 4: that's generally how rookie quarterbacks look out of the shoot,

2531
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 4: unless they're on great teams and are just asked to

2532
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 4: hand the ball off, you know, like then you can

2533
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 4: have some success right away. But when you're asked to

2534
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 4: like carry the offense or be a big part of

2535
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 4: the offense, that's generally how it looks.

2536
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 13: C J.

2537
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 4: Stroud is not how it's supposed to look. That's that's

2538
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 4: an outlier. Have a guy just come into an offense

2539
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 4: and lift it almost immediately. Don't be confused by what

2540
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 4: you see in preseason games, because that's not what you see.

2541
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels tried to run all over the place in

2542
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 4: that game against Washington. Even Dan Quinn has already told

2543
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 4: him that's not what we want. We don't want, that's

2544
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 4: not what we're looking for. In the preseason, you can

2545
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 4: do that. Caleb Williams made a bunch of plays in

2546
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 4: the preseason, kind of running around street school yard football.

2547
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 4: He did that and got sacked for a nineteen yard

2548
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 4: loss by a guy who is probably every bit the

2549
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 4: athlete that he is.

2550
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

2551
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 4: That wasn't that he wasn't seeing in the preseason. So

2552
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 4: these guys are going to struggle initially, But that doesn't

2553
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 4: change my opinion. I think I want Italy Chicago wants

2554
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams to hit those little passes that he missed

2555
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 4: the IEH.

2556
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 2: Here's the question the.

2557
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 4: Next week, in the weeks going forward and be better.

2558
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 2: Here's the question to throw back to the email er.

2559
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 2: If all these guys progress faster than Drake may, does

2560
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 2: that validate them starting sooner? Like if their progression as

2561
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 2: a pro comes faster.

2562
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 4: Basically, so, Mike, you you had like a hypothetical about

2563
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 4: would you rather make the playoffs with Jacoby Myers, I mean,

2564
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett or not make it with Drake May? And

2565
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 4: I think that maybe if you had said, you know, so,

2566
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett is probably gonna win a couple more games

2567
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 4: than Drake May would if he played all seventeen. So

2568
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 4: would you rather go seven and ten with Perssett or

2569
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 4: five and twelve with May? Something like that, Then I

2570
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 4: think you're in a conversation for sure that you could

2571
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 4: look at and say, well, the benefit of May getting

2572
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 4: that experience and hopefully learning playing better as the season

2573
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 4: goes on might be worth a loss or two. As

2574
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 4: long as I'm not going to make the playoffs, I

2575
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 4: would rather make, you know, I'll let you speak of

2576
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 4: because Mic threw this out earlier. I think it'd be

2577
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 4: hard if you're a Patriots fan, if you said I

2578
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 4: would rather not make the playoffs than make it regardless.

2579
01:56:58,320 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know.

2580
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 21: I mean, I guess it depends on how it looks

2581
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 21: like if they don't make the playoffs with Drake May.

2582
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 21: But he looks like he's the real deal and they

2583
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 21: just kind of have to build it up better around him.

2584
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 21: But they make the playoffs, like the Pittsburgh Steelers make

2585
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 21: the playoffs, where they are just this middling team that's

2586
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 21: going nowhere.

2587
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2588
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 21: I might rather be the Drake may Camp just because

2589
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 21: he has like a rookie year like Justin Herbert did,

2590
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 21: where he throws for four thousand yards and he looks

2591
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 21: the part, but it's just not a good enough situation

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Speaker 21: for them to win a bunch of football games. Then

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Speaker 21: I'm almost more on board with that because the next

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Speaker 21: ten years are looking brighter. Whereas if they make the

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Speaker 21: playoffs at nine to eight with Jacoby Brissett and they're

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Speaker 21: just kind of this middling twenty twenty two to twenty

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Speaker 21: twenty one Patriots team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, being very specific with that, though, like I, I

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Speaker 4: find it hard to envision the situation that Jacoby Brissett,

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Speaker 4: a nine year journeyman, had enough around him to make

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, but the guy who was playing lights out

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Speaker 4: like Justin Herbert did as a rookie didn't have enough

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Speaker 4: around him to make the playoffs. That's hard for me

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Speaker 4: to envision that. Now, if that happened like that, I

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Speaker 4: could you make a good point. I would rather make

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Speaker 4: the playoffs because now I think May is inheriting a

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Speaker 4: better situation. You know, like Mike Felder is the only

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Speaker 4: one who thinks this way. I know, like Mike taught

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Speaker 4: me this. Mike taught me that it's better to win

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Speaker 4: games than lose them.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 4: You probably should look that up. That's why he's number one,

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Speaker 4: That's why, that's why he's tops.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so he wants to be the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Now, he wants to win games. So you create a culture,

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Speaker 4: and you know how you're picking that a structure around

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Speaker 4: Drake may better. That shows that you have a good coach,

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Speaker 4: and it shows you that your GM has picked good players.

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Speaker 4: Like thanks, you're the one who thinks that would be

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Speaker 4: a good thing. Like if Jalen Polk is a good player,

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Speaker 4: that's good. You're the one who thinks that. Thanks Mike Felder,

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Speaker 4: you know, for breaking down football for all of us.

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Speaker 4: All right, Yes, I will be seeing him in about

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Speaker 4: an hour.

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Speaker 2: And thank you everyone for listening, emailing, calling in today.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. We'll be back tomorrow at two with our

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Speaker 2: third uh episode of Patriots Unflfiltered This week When is

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Speaker 2: cast twenty two tomorrow after PU tomorrow after pus at

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Speaker 2: two o'clock tomorrow, two thirty too.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, playbook coming up next?

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Speaker 2: What's going on next? Playbook? What John Rook is coming

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