Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up man?
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: What's your name? What's going on with you today? What
Speaker 1: you want to talk about?
Speaker 3: Well, so I had a question. Oh god, this is
Speaker 3: gonna sound so bad. So, in an unnamed location, I
Speaker 3: may have masturbated on a helicopter very near several guys.
Speaker 3: But they didn't see it and they didn't know what happened.
Speaker 3: So is it gay?
Speaker 1: What was the context of being in the helicopter in
Speaker 1: the first place?
Speaker 3: War?
Speaker 1: You were fighting in a war, yes, riding in a helicopter. Correct,
Speaker 1: masturbating in the helicopter briefly, Yeah, that's a little guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But they didn't know, and like it wasn't about them.
Speaker 3: It was just kind of this primal urge. You know,
Speaker 3: how are you?
Speaker 1: How are you able to masturbate in a helicopter? A
Speaker 1: helicopter is like such a compact space. And also, well, okay,
Speaker 1: hell were you are you?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Were you a soldier?
Speaker 3: I know, yes, military, not soldier.
Speaker 1: Okay, you were? You were in so you you were
Speaker 1: like you're wearing all this like fucking combat gear. You've
Speaker 1: an AK forty seven strapped to your back, and you
Speaker 1: somehow find a way to pull your dick out and masturbate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean there's several layers, and you know,
Speaker 3: granted not everybody could make that happen. It does take
Speaker 3: some skill. But I mean, does that make it less
Speaker 3: gay because it takes more skill?
Speaker 1: Are you still in the army?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: It just didn't feel right, you know, m hm.
Speaker 1: How long were you in the army for.
Speaker 3: Twelve years?
Speaker 1: What year out of the twelve years was the year
Speaker 1: that you masturbated in the helicopter?
Speaker 3: I pleaded the sieth.
Speaker 1: Where did you ejaculate? Did you ejaculate?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course? I mean what's the point if you don't.
Speaker 1: Where did you ejaculate?
Speaker 3: Just out the window? I mean probably stuck to the
Speaker 3: side of the thing because we're flying.
Speaker 1: You're okay there, dude, there there's no way in hell
Speaker 1: that you ejaculated out the window of a helicopter with
Speaker 1: a filled people without anybody knowing. There's just no way
Speaker 1: that you did that.
Speaker 3: Well, so it's going to be hard to explain. But
Speaker 3: when you're wearing night vision goggles, it throws your depth
Speaker 3: perception way off, so you can't see anything within ten
Speaker 3: feet of view and your field of view is very restricted.
Speaker 3: You can only see far out, so nobody's looking inside.
Speaker 1: So you see everybody wearing night vision goggles and you go, oh,
Speaker 1: you're wearing them too, So I mean, could you even
Speaker 1: see your penis?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 3: No? God, no, you don't need to see your dick
Speaker 3: to masturbate.
Speaker 1: This is crazy that our tax dollars go to this.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it wasn't really you shouldn't think of
Speaker 3: it like the tax dollars are paying for masturbation. It
Speaker 3: was just kind of a symptom of the environment.
Speaker 1: How so.
Speaker 3: Hard to explain unless you've been there. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: I bet somebody in chat has experienced a combat boner.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that war makes you horny.
Speaker 3: No, not quite, not in that sense. You can get
Speaker 3: a physical reaction. You ever heard of a NARB no
Speaker 3: apparent reason bone?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I know what that is.
Speaker 3: You could have something similar to that, but like think
Speaker 3: of being stimulated to the max. But then also you
Speaker 3: have like the vibrations of the helicopter. I don't know, so.
Speaker 1: It was the helicopter the major horny.
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I'm glad you're not in the military anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: What do you do now?
Speaker 3: What are this little of that you.
Speaker 1: Know that sounds like you do a whole lot more
Speaker 1: of jacking off a lot.
Speaker 3: Ghek, I'm masturbate a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you do or anything? Are you a real person?
Speaker 1: Are you fucking with me?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I actually I swear true story.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me more about combat boners. What why do
Speaker 1: you think they occur?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I like a few people that I
Speaker 3: had talked to have experienced them and acted upon them.
Speaker 3: Not quite in that manner looking back, not the best call,
Speaker 3: But I just think there's something to do with really
Speaker 3: tapping into that primal caveman that's inside of all of us.
Speaker 3: And if you let that guy really get a hold
Speaker 3: of everything, he's gonna want to jerk off. You know,
Speaker 3: there's no cave woman around. I'll bring you back to
Speaker 3: your cave. You're surrounding by guys for a year.
Speaker 1: There should be some kind of call of duty kill
Speaker 1: streak award that just makes the opposing team I'll get
Speaker 1: a boner, maybe.
Speaker 3: Like a tactical boner nuke.
Speaker 1: Tactical boner nuke. Do you have a Do you tell
Speaker 1: me about your life?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: What do you do? And don't say a little bit
Speaker 1: of this, a little bit of that.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to not really docks myself here, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: But you've already docked yourself. You're the guy who masturbated
Speaker 1: in a helicopter. That's you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: And nobody cares about your first and last name. They
Speaker 1: already know much deeper information about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a helicopterm masturbator. Well, I work at a
Speaker 3: small shop in a pretty rural area and live a
Speaker 3: very slow life.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, is that enjoyable for you?
Speaker 3: No? I fucking hate it.
Speaker 1: Why do you hate it?
Speaker 3: Trying to figure that out? Gick? Not a whole lot
Speaker 3: of happiness in life ever since that year?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna guess it was year twelve.
Speaker 3: No, it was. I think it would have been ten.
Speaker 1: Okay. So when you say not a whole lot of
Speaker 1: happiness since that year, you mean the year that you
Speaker 1: masturbated in the helicopter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the whole year surrounding that incident.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, why is that?
Speaker 3: I don't know nothing. Uh. I think that's kind of
Speaker 3: the side effect of it, is you for this year.
Speaker 3: I feel like you just use up so much of
Speaker 3: your body's adrenaline. You just this roller coaster of emotions.
Speaker 3: You're you're working days straight, you get a few hour nap,
Speaker 3: got to wake up, go on a mission, go go go.
Speaker 3: You can never really think of anything. And then you
Speaker 3: get home. All in the span of like a week,
Speaker 3: you go from that life to a grinding halt and
Speaker 3: everything is slow and nothing's scary and you're just a
Speaker 3: normal person again. And that is very difficult to deal with.
Speaker 1: So you missed the excitement of warfare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't miss war. It's a double edged
Speaker 3: sword man, and you know, it's a whole pointless war anyway.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get into that side of things there.
Speaker 1: But what war? What war?
Speaker 3: Is this?
Speaker 1: What are we are?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Were you in Irq?
Speaker 3: One of the countries that we were in the past
Speaker 3: twenty years?
Speaker 1: Damn dude, that's uh, that's that's that's the that's the
Speaker 1: US engaging in biological warfare right there, just coming on
Speaker 1: another country.
Speaker 3: Do you think they like, do you think they trained
Speaker 3: me to do that? And I didn't even know it.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Do you have a family? Do you have friends?
Speaker 3: Sons? No family?
Speaker 1: Okay? What do you think would make your life more exciting.
Speaker 3: Man, trying to figure that out too.
Speaker 1: How long have you been out of the military for
Speaker 1: a couple of years now, and the whole time you've
Speaker 1: just been hanging out in this small town.
Speaker 3: For the most part. Yeah, yeah, I try to find
Speaker 3: work after the military is the hardest part.
Speaker 1: Did they give you any money? How do they how
Speaker 1: do they do? Are we at a point where I
Speaker 1: don't know any of the ship. Are we at a
Speaker 1: point where like, if you're a veteran you get a
Speaker 1: bunch of money or do you not get money?
Speaker 3: No? No, you have to you have to do a
Speaker 3: full Yes, they found out what they did in the helicopter,
Speaker 3: I mean for sure, but you have to do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you did twelve you have to do a
Speaker 1: full what you did twelve.
Speaker 3: Years, you got to do twenty plus.
Speaker 1: You gotta do twenty plus. Yeah, god damn. So all right,
Speaker 1: so you just left and they were like, all right,
Speaker 1: see you go work at McDonald's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. I mean what you got to turn
Speaker 3: in some uniforms and stuff. But then when you get out,
Speaker 3: you can you can you know, grow facial hair, smoke
Speaker 3: pot and get fat.
Speaker 1: That's not so bad. You can do that. Without going
Speaker 1: into the military. I know, I know firsthand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody really told me that.
Speaker 1: Let's see, So in these past two years, have you
Speaker 1: done anything to make an attempt to spice up your
Speaker 1: life in any way?
Speaker 3: Hmm, not really. I think I was just trying to
Speaker 3: establish my new life, you know, get a house, get
Speaker 3: a source of income coming, and honestly, for the first year,
Speaker 3: I was just trying to not kill myself. M hm.
Speaker 3: So that occupied you. Just it's hard to explain it.
Speaker 3: Just I felt so emotionally neutral that even even if
Speaker 3: you brought me to six Flags, I would just look
Speaker 3: at a roller coaster and think it looks boring, you.
Speaker 1: Know, you know, you know, I feel like the old
Speaker 1: guy from the six Flags commercials when he's not at
Speaker 1: six Flags, is also actively trying every day not to
Speaker 1: kill himself.
Speaker 3: That's a good point. Maybe I should dance like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, So you come home after a twelve year tour
Speaker 1: of around the country and you're just it's a total
Speaker 1: different environment. You're not around people every single day like
Speaker 1: you were. Uh, you're not as you say, go go
Speaker 1: go and having your you know, your your brain and
Speaker 1: your body are far more idle than they were before,
Speaker 1: and it's driving It drove you fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it about sums it up.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. So are you still in and it's okay
Speaker 1: if you are. Are you still in this like I'm
Speaker 1: trying every day just to just to get through the
Speaker 1: day mode.
Speaker 3: No, uh that that got better a bit maybe six
Speaker 3: months ago. Quit drinking, quit smoking, quit doing a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff, just trying to be healthier and just I mean,
Speaker 3: it just takes time. You know, there's there's there's nothing
Speaker 3: you can really do to just turn that ship around
Speaker 3: in a month. Everything takes time.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well, I feel like I mean, the go
Speaker 1: Go go nature, It's it's really just it's really just
Speaker 1: this idea that for certain certain people like a slow life.
Speaker 1: And then there's certain people where, you know, if they're
Speaker 1: not constantly being stimulated and out and about and achieving
Speaker 1: objectives and doing things that you know, their their brain
Speaker 1: just goes to to dark places when it doesn't have
Speaker 1: a thing to do.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really like that. Ghek, Like I don't
Speaker 3: I don't really want the go go go anymore. But
Speaker 3: that's I don't really know what I do want. That's
Speaker 3: kind of the side effect of it. But really, I
Speaker 3: just keep wishing I could be left the hell alone
Speaker 3: and go somewhere and not be a slave to the
Speaker 3: nine to five. And then I didn't know how bad
Speaker 3: everybody had it out here. This shit sucks, m So.
Speaker 1: You just don't want to be a slave to here
Speaker 1: nine to five?
Speaker 3: No, God, No?
Speaker 1: Did you save any money over the course of the
Speaker 1: twelve years?
Speaker 3: Oh? Ghek, I blew that so hard? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Would you blow it on.
Speaker 3: House and then a car?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't consider buying a house to be blowing money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but do we really need houses? You know? I
Speaker 3: think all the time, what if I didn't have this place,
Speaker 3: I could get in a van and drive the country
Speaker 3: or travel the world.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much was the house.
Speaker 3: It was cheap. It's a rural area. It was like
Speaker 3: two hundred and than thirty something like.
Speaker 1: That in cash.
Speaker 3: No, No, financed a lot of it, all.
Speaker 1: Right, How much money do is you put down the house?
Speaker 3: Actually?
Speaker 2: None?
Speaker 3: When when you're in the military and you do a deployment,
Speaker 3: you are eligible for a VA home loan, and that's
Speaker 3: a zero down, low interest rate loans, So it doesn't
Speaker 3: make a ton of sense to even really put your
Speaker 3: money up front on it anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, but you have equity in the house, I do, Yeah, okay?
Speaker 1: Could you? Could you feasibly rent it out or sell
Speaker 1: it and use the money to get a van and
Speaker 1: travel around?
Speaker 3: I thought about that. But what happens if the furnace
Speaker 3: goes out and you're in the middle of nowhere? You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, that's your responsibility as the land
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a scumbag landlord. If I
Speaker 3: could rent this place out for just what it cost
Speaker 3: me and know that I wouldn't have any complications, I
Speaker 3: would do that. I would never do it for profit.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what about Yeah, what.
Speaker 3: About the responsibility for your renter?
Speaker 1: What about uh? I mean? Could just sell the house
Speaker 1: then and just take the equity and buy a van?
Speaker 3: Yes? But what do I do after that? Geg, Let's
Speaker 3: say I travel for a year or two. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly young. You can add it up by
Speaker 3: the time I was in the military. You get back,
Speaker 3: you still don't have a job. You probably burned up
Speaker 3: the money from the equity in your house. You're back
Speaker 3: at square one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is true. It is true. We live in
Speaker 1: a universe where you need to figure out some way
Speaker 1: to make enough money to eat food and not die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the idea.
Speaker 1: How much money do you need to eat food and
Speaker 1: not die?
Speaker 3: Where am I eating?
Speaker 1: Uh? The the bare minimum that you need that you'd
Speaker 1: be happy you with, but you also won't have to
Speaker 1: have a job.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Have to imagine if you're on the road,
Speaker 3: you can't exactly be preparing all of your meals because
Speaker 3: you've got restricted space. So it's probably going to be
Speaker 3: more expensive, probably more around the four four hundred bucks
Speaker 3: three four.
Speaker 1: Hundred bucks a month, three to four hundred bucks a month,
Speaker 1: if right.
Speaker 3: I've never really lived down the road, you know, but
Speaker 3: I'm just guessing food is more expensive if you're trying
Speaker 3: to stay traveling. You can't you don't have a full
Speaker 3: sized fridge in the pantry, you know.
Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know. I'm playing Dave Ramsey here because
Speaker 1: it's fun, but that's it, right, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I like listen, I think you could figure it out,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so you so you don't you don't
Speaker 1: you well, you said, I blew my money. I thought
Speaker 1: you meant you spent it all on coke.
Speaker 3: No, I mean a little bit on coke, for sure,
Speaker 3: a little bit on acid.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 3: Some fun trips in there.
Speaker 1: But have you ever spoke to a real therapist? Do
Speaker 1: they give you like health insurance and ship?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the the first therapist I talked to, uh,
Speaker 3: the second time she saw me, she said, she got
Speaker 3: moved elsewhere. Okay, so then they get they assigned me
Speaker 3: to a different one. And then I opened up to her,
Speaker 3: and then she got transferred, and by the time I
Speaker 3: got to the third one, I was sick of the system.
Speaker 3: And then by the time I got to the fourth
Speaker 3: one and I opened up to her, she said, Jesus Christ,
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: So you went through the therapy. Ringer tried, all right,
Speaker 1: well again, it sounds like you're doing it. Sounds like
Speaker 1: you're doing well. Sounds like you're doing better. If you
Speaker 1: went from I'm trying every day not to kill myself too,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing okay. I just don't want to
Speaker 1: work a job.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the that's the default of all people pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, m.
Speaker 1: Well, what else?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: What else while I have you on the phone.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't really plan past the jerking off in a helicopter.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought that was kind of going to
Speaker 3: be the focus of it. We we really went a
Speaker 3: lot deeper there than I pictured.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, jerking off in the helicopter. It's pretty funny, right,
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny, but it's I don't know if we
Speaker 1: could have talked about it for twenty whole minutes, even
Speaker 1: though we sort of did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty pretty small amount of time
Speaker 3: to talk about it for twenty minutes.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Still I don't we you've talked about all these things,
Speaker 1: and I almost I feel I feel as though we
Speaker 1: should end this phone call with some form of resolution.
Speaker 1: You know, there's no resolution of any kind of anything at.
Speaker 3: All, not not today. But who's to say what tomorrow brings.
Speaker 1: That's a resolution. Yeah, that's missing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll leave you with I'm not planning to leave
Speaker 3: us here anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, great, great, that's I would say. That's a
Speaker 1: good resolution. Yeah, what's your name again?
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that again?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, how many times did you tell me
Speaker 1: over the course of the cast I think.
Speaker 3: I think maybe once at the beginning, but uh, you
Speaker 3: know whatever, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Call you Bruce because there's because I could just have
Speaker 1: everyone tell me to tell me their names and I
Speaker 1: would just you could just all be anonymous. That would
Speaker 1: be easier for everyone. Bruce, thank you for your service.
Speaker 3: You know, Gek, I appreciate you for your service.
Speaker 1: I was gonna make some I was gonna make some
Speaker 1: joke that alluded back to you jerking off in the helicopter,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't think of anything quickly enough, so I
Speaker 1: just sincerely thanked you for your service.
Speaker 3: Couldn't come up with a catchy punchline for the inner
Speaker 3: jerk offer.
Speaker 1: Now you're a cool guy, Bruce. I appreciate you calling.
Speaker 1: I hope you find something to do with your life
Speaker 1: that makes you happy. I don't believe that there's no
Speaker 1: resolution to this. I think that even the mere fact
Speaker 1: that you are on an upwards trajectory from where you
Speaker 1: were before and now you have a hope for the future.
Speaker 1: I think if you just keep tinkering around, hopefully something
Speaker 1: will we'll catch your your interest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get there, all right. I have a feeling
Speaker 3: I'll probably find it outside of the country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, Man, check out. I'm always
Speaker 1: on Airbnb looking at like a Bali, Like, how cheap
Speaker 1: could I live in Bali or any of these other places?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty incredible. I mean you have places like
Speaker 3: the Philippines too, where all the natives speak English and
Speaker 3: everything costs about a quarter of the price.
Speaker 1: Well, Bruce, go jack off in your own bed. You
Speaker 1: deserve it. I will get I will take care, love you,
Speaker 1: love you too. This is why I do the podcast, man,
Speaker 1: You get to talk to all kinds of people about
Speaker 1: jerking off in all kinds of places. Hey, what's up? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who is this?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: This is Paul.
Speaker 1: Paul. What's going on?
Speaker 5: Many's just sitting here. I was watching dragon ball D
Speaker 5: play stream came on.
Speaker 1: You know, killing you were watching dragon ball Z. What
Speaker 1: episode of dragon ball Z?
Speaker 5: Like three episodes from the end of the Freezer saga.
Speaker 1: You know, I know that it's like the most I
Speaker 1: know it's like the most popular thing ever, But I've
Speaker 1: actually never watched an episode of dragon ball Z.
Speaker 5: Really, it's almost hard to believe. Like, even if you
Speaker 5: just watch random cartoons as.
Speaker 1: A kid, it's the episode or two well, I kind
Speaker 1: of looked like a fat version of that one green guy.
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 5: Oh, there's a few of those Pickolo, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: play yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess I look like I look like a combination
Speaker 1: of him and Boo.
Speaker 5: You have what a badass version?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: So what did you say your name was? Again?
Speaker 3: Paul?
Speaker 2: Paul?
Speaker 1: Paul? Would you want to talk about today?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 5: I guess the biggest thing that I wanted to talk about,
Speaker 5: just because I thought it was more interesting than my
Speaker 5: other day to day problems, was that, in a I
Speaker 5: kind of got myself into a situation where I'm part
Speaker 5: of like living a let's praise like a double life here.
Speaker 5: So I grew up conservative Christian, and most of my
Speaker 5: friends are conservative if they're not Christians.
Speaker 3: The last.
Speaker 5: Year or so been in the BDSM community where I live.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I don't know if you mentioned this already,
Speaker 1: but you said that you are a trucker in Alaska. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are part of a BDSM community in Alaska, I am, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's too cold for BDSM over there, it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I'm I'm currently in Washington for the winter
Speaker 5: for exactly that reason.
Speaker 1: So I mean, what do you so there are clubs
Speaker 1: in a lab. There's like dungeons in Alaska where people
Speaker 1: go to tie each other up and fuck each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. It's less of the big I think.
Speaker 5: I haven't been to any, but I think in bigger
Speaker 5: cities they just have open clubs all the time where
Speaker 5: you can just kind of go in and do the
Speaker 5: BDSM stuff. But here it's more of a public normal
Speaker 5: meetings just to meet and greet, and then people have
Speaker 5: private parties and stuff. Once you're at the point where
Speaker 5: you're trustworthy and everything and you find somebody you want
Speaker 5: to play with.
Speaker 3: So you are.
Speaker 1: Do you still identify as a conservative Christian?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Interesting?
Speaker 2: Do do?
Speaker 1: Does conservative Christian values and BDSM ship do that? Do
Speaker 1: they conflict?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: They are pretty much on the opposite end of the
Speaker 5: spectrum for the most part. But I'm kind of a
Speaker 5: I can see both points of view, So depending on
Speaker 5: which group of people I'm with at any given time,
Speaker 5: I just kind of find myself agree with whatever.
Speaker 1: All right, let's say you're with I would love to
Speaker 1: hear your perspective on BDSM sex from as a as
Speaker 1: a conservative Christian.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I like that you can just kind of relax. H.
Speaker 5: So I am more often than not identify as a submissive.
Speaker 5: So that's kind of nice to let somebody else take control,
Speaker 5: I would say. And it's less there's not actually that
Speaker 5: much sex in the play I was doing. It's more
Speaker 5: like you know, beatings and sign people up and stuff
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 1: Do you think that God doesn't want you to tie
Speaker 1: people up and spank them on the ass?
Speaker 5: And yeah, I would say that to a point. Anyways,
Speaker 5: I think the biggest conflict is not so much the
Speaker 5: actual well, it's kind of the actual act now I
Speaker 5: think about it.
Speaker 1: Why do you think God doesn't like that? What is
Speaker 1: it about it that bothers him?
Speaker 5: I think that it's a gateway to more hedonistic behavior
Speaker 5: your day to day life, which, in my opinion, you know,
Speaker 5: it's good in doses, but I think it leads to
Speaker 5: a mindset where you're prioritizing your personal physical pleasures over
Speaker 5: other more important things in your life, to the point where,
Speaker 5: if where it becomes almost an addiction of like, I
Speaker 5: have to see feeling good all the time or I
Speaker 5: can't function.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you neglect important things in your
Speaker 1: life to feel good?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I try not to do that. All the time.
Speaker 5: But that's definitely something I struggle with.
Speaker 1: What's something recently that you feel like you neglected to
Speaker 1: get whipped.
Speaker 5: While putting my one group of friends on hold thing
Speaker 5: because you know, the two don't really mesh. So I
Speaker 5: kind of distanced myself from the.
Speaker 3: People I.
Speaker 5: Love and care about a lot to do that.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: And I get another group of people tell me about
Speaker 1: in both groups.
Speaker 5: Uh so the older friends there and it's not like
Speaker 5: a group of like super hardcore Christians were like, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, we all we we hate the other group,
Speaker 5: but just more of a core value type of thing.
Speaker 5: Most of them don't actually go to a church that
Speaker 5: kind of like me where they grew up Christian and
Speaker 5: now they're just conservatives other than one and that I
Speaker 5: have is basically the perfect Christian in my opinion.
Speaker 1: What makes him the perfect Christian.
Speaker 3: He just has the.
Speaker 5: Ability to get along with people even if he doesn't
Speaker 5: agree with what they stand for. And he just has
Speaker 5: an amazing way of oh it's irme to describe, like
Speaker 5: he'll just put himself or put others before himself in
Speaker 5: all situations. But he's able to maintain a balance of
Speaker 5: like not just being a pushover at the same time,
Speaker 5: which is something I would like to be.
Speaker 2: Able to do.
Speaker 5: But I kind of go one way or thegether I
Speaker 5: moved here doing whatever anybody says, or I'm getting to
Speaker 5: an unhealthy mindset where I just get tired of being
Speaker 5: pushed around, and then I don't look out for anybody
Speaker 5: except myself, and then I kind of go back and
Speaker 5: forth between those two mindsets.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting because nothing of what you've told me
Speaker 1: so far has really been anything about God. It's just
Speaker 1: about like personal human values.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm not a hard
Speaker 5: practicing Christian, I would say, or a hardcore Christian. I
Speaker 5: go to church occasionally, but it's I don't know, it's
Speaker 5: more about the community of people that I'm around.
Speaker 1: Now, do your conservative Christian friends know about your BDSM life?
Speaker 1: Some of them do you? Okay, why do you feel
Speaker 1: like there's a conflict.
Speaker 5: Well, the main conflict actually comes from the other end
Speaker 5: of things with the BDSM community because I'm not out
Speaker 5: as conservative. Because you know the kind of conflict being
Speaker 5: then I don't judge people for what they do. I
Speaker 5: just vote differently than them. But over there, at least
Speaker 5: in our community, any mention of uh, computer Christian or
Speaker 5: anything like that.
Speaker 3: They don't like it at all.
Speaker 5: They kind of gang up on people. You don't want,
Speaker 5: you don't want where everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want your BDSM friends to know that
Speaker 1: that you voted for Trump?
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, huh, you're you're You're a peculiar little cookie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I've been told that a few times.
Speaker 1: So I mean, like, m tell me, okay, so I
Speaker 1: feel like I learned a little bit about your Christian friends.
Speaker 1: Tell me more about your BDSM friends.
Speaker 5: So now XP But until recently, my girlfriend was actually
Speaker 5: one of the community leaders who hosts parties and events
Speaker 5: and meet and greets and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: What happens.
Speaker 3: We just had.
Speaker 5: Different outlooks on what the future can bring. I guess
Speaker 5: we started as a It was a polyamorous relationship, so
Speaker 5: she already had a long term partner, and going into it,
Speaker 5: I didn't know if I'd like it or not doing
Speaker 5: the polyamory thing. Then it turned out that I didn't
Speaker 5: like it, so that was the main reason. But when
Speaker 5: we started, she and her long term partner were just partners,
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, one day she just
Speaker 5: dropped the ball that they were getting married, which didn't
Speaker 5: really sit well with me, so I kind of broke off.
Speaker 1: What is it that draws you to the sort of
Speaker 1: alternative lifestyle polyamory BDSM and community.
Speaker 5: That's fun and everybody you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: naked people, so that's always enjoyable, you know what.
Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't have to really be deeper than that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's you know, that's that's the main part of it, okay.
Speaker 1: And what draws you to, uh, Donald Trump and the
Speaker 1: conservative stuff?
Speaker 5: I think because being having more conservative values is what
Speaker 5: I want to focus on in my day to day
Speaker 5: life and just the direction that I think personally that
Speaker 5: you know, I don't have all the answers, but the
Speaker 5: direction I think personally that the values we should be
Speaker 5: focusing on in the direction the country should go. So
Speaker 5: I guess I kind of view that as like my
Speaker 5: you know, my blue collar day to day mindset, and
Speaker 5: then the BDSM stuff is like on the weekends to
Speaker 5: the side.
Speaker 1: Now, what, uh, what do you what do you consider
Speaker 1: to be well, how would you define those values? Those
Speaker 1: those uh values that you would like to see more of?
Speaker 5: Just more of a Oh no, I had all the
Speaker 5: answers to that until you've asked me that question, and
Speaker 5: now that I have to think about it, uh, I
Speaker 5: guess a lot some of it is Like financially, Uh
Speaker 5: I think the conservative lifestyle goes is makes more sense.
Speaker 2: To me.
Speaker 1: Financially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just.
Speaker 1: Do you have?
Speaker 2: Do you do you?
Speaker 1: It's okay if you don't have an answer to this question, but.
Speaker 5: Okay, well can I can I say?
Speaker 1: Can I say something? Yeah, if you don't have an
Speaker 1: answer to this question, like maybe like I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I mean what what?
Speaker 2: What is?
Speaker 1: What is all of this stuff even coming from?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: It's just like an identity that you've built that you
Speaker 1: haven't really taken a second to to reconsider or or
Speaker 1: think more deeply about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that at least part of it,
Speaker 5: because you know, that's how I grew up. So it's
Speaker 5: a core part of my identity.
Speaker 1: Okay, this core part of your identity. This is a
Speaker 1: genuine question. I'm not trying to look. Look, look, I'm
Speaker 1: not here to fucking what you know, tell anybody to
Speaker 1: do anything, but this core part of your identity does
Speaker 1: does it continue to serve you well in your life?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you need to have the answer to
Speaker 1: that question immediately, but it's something to think about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that it does in terms of.
Speaker 2: It drives me.
Speaker 5: It's one of the things that motivates me and drives
Speaker 5: me to keep going forward in the way that I
Speaker 5: want to live my life, in terms of looking to
Speaker 5: the future, in terms of where I want to be
Speaker 5: in like five or ten years career wise, and how
Speaker 5: I want to go about starting a family one day.
Speaker 3: I suppose.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a funny thing because you're just
Speaker 1: talking about self improvement. You're just talking You're just talking
Speaker 1: about personal values. You're not even really talking about God
Speaker 1: or about politics or any of this stuff. You're really
Speaker 1: just talking about, like I said, personal values and self improvement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So why do you Because I don't want to
Speaker 5: to anybody off that's the scene. I don't know. I
Speaker 5: guess I don't want to talk about it because a
Speaker 5: lot of the time when I start talking about it,
Speaker 5: I get called a big eight or whatever mm hm,
Speaker 5: which I don't think you do, but you'll do. But uh,
Speaker 5: I guess that's part of my hesitation why I'm not
Speaker 5: really used to talking about it.
Speaker 1: So I so, Okay. So then when I asked you
Speaker 1: these questions before, were you not answering it because you
Speaker 1: were afraid to talk about it or because you genuinely
Speaker 1: didn't have an answer?
Speaker 5: A little bit of both, a little bit of not
Speaker 5: want I talk about, a little bit of brain fare.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well again, I'll leave it at the question of
Speaker 1: whether or not these things continue to serve you and
Speaker 1: I only you can really answer that question, but it's
Speaker 1: worth thinking about, especially if you're entering all these different
Speaker 1: communities and and and universes and trying to find a
Speaker 1: universe that makes you feel happy to to exist in.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying A little bit, Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you storm the Capitol January sixth?
Speaker 2: No? I did not.
Speaker 1: Okay, Paul. Well let's see, Paul, is there anything else
Speaker 1: I should know about you or anything else you want
Speaker 1: to talk about in this scenario, in this in this
Speaker 1: in this conversation.
Speaker 5: No, I guess not just the yeah yeah, A great show, Paul.
Speaker 1: Paul, I want you to you know what, Paul, I
Speaker 1: I I want to challenge you. I actually think that
Speaker 1: you should start the first Christian BDSM club. I really do,
Speaker 1: I really, I really want to challenge you to think
Speaker 1: deeply about whether or not your values truly are as
Speaker 1: in conflict with one another as you think they are.
Speaker 1: Because look, if you found out that there was a
Speaker 1: Christian BDSM club, I mean, you'd be the first one
Speaker 1: in line in the morning. So there's others like you
Speaker 1: out there, So throw throw it out there. You know,
Speaker 1: you could be on the cusp of something something beautiful.
Speaker 1: Who knows it's been great? You know, I mean just imagine.
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, by the way, nothing kinkier
Speaker 1: than getting nailed to a cross, that is true. You
Speaker 1: could say Jesus was the first. That could be cool.
Speaker 1: You could have a like a Jesus nailed to the
Speaker 1: cross with if the gimp mask on and you're whipping him,
Speaker 1: do you should do? All right? If you don't do this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, so I'm I look forward.
Speaker 5: Well when you do that, I'll be the first one
Speaker 5: on the door.
Speaker 1: Uh, Paul's anything else you gonna say to the people
Speaker 1: of the computer.
Speaker 2: Before we go?
Speaker 5: Nope, other than just thanks for having me. If nothing else,
Speaker 5: is felt good to talk about it to somebody. You know,
Speaker 5: it's not really the problem I can talk about out
Speaker 5: loud to most people.
Speaker 1: I take careful, I'll have a going you see your
Speaker 1: thinks Wow, it's perfect.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: The the symbol for Christianity is a BDSM sex position
Speaker 1: getting nailed to a cross and whipped and fucked and
Speaker 1: jizzed on. It's an idea. It's an idea. Hey guys,
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Speaker 2: Hi? Who's this?
Speaker 1: This is the Gecko guy from the internet.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Lyle, what up?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Do with's your name?
Speaker 2: My name is Devin.
Speaker 1: How are you, Devin. I'm good. Have we ever spoken before?
Speaker 2: We have? I got engaged at your Portland live show?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, homie, what's dam Yeah dude, holy shit,
Speaker 1: I remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My fiance son and I are just playing Fortnite. I'll
Speaker 2: put it on pause.
Speaker 1: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Doing fantastic? Thank you? Yeah? I doing good.
Speaker 1: How are you tell me more about that? Now? I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember. This is at Mississippis videos is in Portland?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So we ended up going to the Mississippi Studios.
Speaker 2: It was funny because we actually had VIP tickets and
Speaker 2: we had no idea where to go because we were
Speaker 2: buying drinks, and like last second, I had it all
Speaker 2: planned out and I was like, I'm gonna text Lyle
Speaker 2: and ask if I can go up on stage and
Speaker 2: he texted me back and You're like what to do it?
Speaker 2: And then like it all hit and it was super
Speaker 2: real and I was like, oh God. And then I
Speaker 2: got up there and uh, you had a Jewish leather
Speaker 2: daddy that just converted to Judaism. And after the show
Speaker 2: he asked if we wanted to if he could marry
Speaker 2: us and officiate us. Wait really and yeah really yeah,
Speaker 2: like right before.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have let
Speaker 1: him do that either.
Speaker 2: I'll be real, he's actually invited. Man, he's a cool dude.
Speaker 1: Wait really, Wait, that's so cool. By the way, I
Speaker 1: didn't say that to be mean to that guy. It
Speaker 1: was just a just trying to do so for context
Speaker 1: for them, for the context of people listen. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not going to add any for the
Speaker 1: context what I'm about to say. But yeah, there was
Speaker 1: this dude in like all leather like BDSM gear who
Speaker 1: came up on stage to talk about converting to Judaism,
Speaker 1: which was the most random thing a guy dressed like
Speaker 1: that could have possibly talked about. And he was one
Speaker 1: of the people that came up on stage that night.
Speaker 1: And then there was you and and your fiance and
Speaker 1: so you just started hanging out with that guy after
Speaker 1: the show, and now he's invited to your wedding. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we actually started talking on Instagram and he's
Speaker 2: super cool and strangely he knows like a couple of
Speaker 2: my friends. I live further south, like near Eugene, sin
Speaker 2: Lones in Oregon, and he knows quite a few people
Speaker 2: that I know, and I'm like, oh wow, what a
Speaker 2: small world.
Speaker 1: That's cool man, Oh goddamn yeah wow. So well, as
Speaker 1: I was curious about this because is your wife. Was
Speaker 1: she a fan of the show or was she like,
Speaker 1: why the fuck did you pick this gecko guy's live
Speaker 1: show to do? To do this at?
Speaker 2: So it's actually really funny. I used to work at
Speaker 2: office depot and one of my associates always had his
Speaker 2: Spotify on and your podcast always popped up, and I
Speaker 2: was like, who the hell is this guy? And finally,
Speaker 2: like I quit the job and I reached out to
Speaker 2: him and I was like, Hey, there's this dude I'm
Speaker 2: looking for like new podcasts and he stresses a gecko
Speaker 2: and he's like therapy Gecko.
Speaker 3: I was like, cool.
Speaker 2: So I started listening to you, and I was working nights,
Speaker 2: and one day I had it open and she happened
Speaker 2: to listen to it too, like through my phone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she was like, wow, he's really funny. And then
Speaker 2: you started popping up on our algorithm and we just
Speaker 2: kind of got hooked.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: We're like you're super great, You're very help people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and like her mom listens now, and my mom was cool.
Speaker 1: So so she's so she's your grandma. Listens that I
Speaker 1: all right, I'll say cunt less Nah, no she so
Speaker 1: so all right, so she so she both you guys
Speaker 1: are both into the pocket. All right. That's cool, man,
Speaker 1: that's cool. How's everything going is? How's how's being married?
Speaker 1: Is it exactly the same as before?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Actually it's pretty awesome. Like I had started a new
Speaker 2: not really a new job, but like a new location,
Speaker 2: and when I was introducing myself to the team, I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, I'm married, instead of being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got this girlfriend back home. It is what it is,
Speaker 2: you know. It's so it kind of feels a little better,
Speaker 2: you know, a little more air of relief, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's nice.
Speaker 1: So did the leather guy try to convert you to Judaism?
Speaker 1: Like was he trying to get you to have a
Speaker 1: Jewish wedding?
Speaker 2: No? No, but I have been I've been dabbling my fee.
Speaker 2: I've been kind of looking at Judaism and I'm like, huh, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's kind of.
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, Okay, what tell what a What's what's
Speaker 1: catching your interest?
Speaker 2: Honestly, So, where I live there's a huge sense of
Speaker 2: community and I'm like, huh, that's something that's really cool
Speaker 2: compared to like all the different sects of like Christianity,
Speaker 2: you know, like just all these different runs of people
Speaker 2: that are like I'm Mormon or I'm this, I'm that,
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, we're just we're Jewish and we're
Speaker 2: hanging out. We're having really good times together and just
Speaker 2: keeping it real, and I'm like, huh, that's kind of
Speaker 2: interesting to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like growing up, I always felt like I,
Speaker 1: you know, like like Mormons and Christians, they were always
Speaker 1: trying to like get folks, but Jews, we we're not
Speaker 1: really out there. We're not knocking on doors, you know.
Speaker 2: No, No, I grew up in a town full of
Speaker 2: Jehovah witnesses and most of them are on our doorstep
Speaker 2: every weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's uh. That that that's what. That's what in our
Speaker 1: culture we would call a whole thing anyway. All right, So, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what you texted me, Devin, and you this
Speaker 1: is why I called you. You texted me because you
Speaker 1: said you wanted to talk about Christmas versus Honikkah movies.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so I actually wanted to ask you what
Speaker 2: you think is the worst Christmas movie or special versus
Speaker 2: the worst Honka Honkah movie flash special? And I can't
Speaker 2: really think of any.
Speaker 1: There's not that many that I was literally about to say.
Speaker 1: There's the rug Rats. I don't know what, dude, is
Speaker 1: Jewish from the rug Rats that made that happen. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's the rug Rats. Well, the rug Rats have a
Speaker 1: Honical one and they also the Ruggrets did all the
Speaker 1: Jewish stuff because they got a Honica one and a
Speaker 1: Passover one.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah one rocks.
Speaker 1: Yeah what else? Adam Sandler, I actually have never seen
Speaker 1: that movie, but I remember wanting to watch it as
Speaker 1: a kid and my mom wouldn't let me.
Speaker 2: We watched it last night with our son, he's nine.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's okay, it's a great movie.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have a worst Christmas movie.
Speaker 1: I have a best one. I have my favorite one.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it the Polar.
Speaker 1: Express of course, no way, yeah, dude, yeah, yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2: Apparently my grandma's favorite movie.
Speaker 1: That's your favorite movie.
Speaker 2: For Christmas movie? That's that's our favorite Christmas movie together.
Speaker 2: We watch it every year.
Speaker 1: To you, why don't we get married?
Speaker 2: Then, dude?
Speaker 1: What up stood, we did do this? Do it? I like?
Speaker 1: You know, The Polar Express is a great movie because
Speaker 1: it really is like it's one night, it's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: this beautiful cozy town. There's like horror elements. The girl
Speaker 1: doesn't have her ticket, so the conductor takes her out
Speaker 1: to murder her. But you find out he doesn't murder her.
Speaker 1: He just gives her a hot chocolate. The hot chocolate
Speaker 1: in the movie. It looks so good. What else I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful everyone in the movie. The movie just
Speaker 1: makes you want to cry the whole time because it's
Speaker 1: just it's like a nice old It's just a bunch
Speaker 1: of nice old guys, the conductor and.
Speaker 2: The you know, you have all those really nice people
Speaker 2: just together on one train, and it's like, man, that's
Speaker 2: magic right there.
Speaker 1: Of all the people I would be most disappointed to
Speaker 1: find out as a pedophile, it would definitely be the
Speaker 1: conductor of the Polar Express.
Speaker 2: What about the kid with the glasses, the we're a
Speaker 2: little nazy kid. What if he grew up in was
Speaker 2: a pedophile? Pretty gross.
Speaker 1: Him. I don't know. I don't care about him and
Speaker 1: his fictional life at all.
Speaker 2: Hey man, I also had another question. Yeah, because I'm
Speaker 2: looking at something right now. What do you think about
Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger's Turbo Man. I don't know what that is,
Speaker 2: like jingle all the way, I don't know what that is. Really.
Speaker 2: So it's a movie about Arnold Schwartzenegger dressing up as
Speaker 2: like a Power Rangers superhero guy and saving his kid
Speaker 2: at a parade. It's got Simbat in it. He's the
Speaker 2: Postman that really wants to blow people up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this movie. I think I would probably
Speaker 1: rather watch a YouTube video about seven things you missed
Speaker 1: in the Kingdom Hearts three trailer then watch that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I could see what's the best Hanika movie. There's no Honka.
Speaker 1: There's not a big market for Hanika movies. I don't
Speaker 1: think that it's why not, Well, because there's like two
Speaker 1: Jewish people.
Speaker 2: That's fair. Well, I mean they made movies about like.
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, like hmmm, I'm not sure. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to think of like any good Hanka movies.
Speaker 2: I know there's like a few specials, but.
Speaker 1: I don't even think there's a few. I can't I
Speaker 1: can only name we so far, we've only named two
Speaker 1: Hanka media that's true.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, we should make a push for that. Do you
Speaker 2: want to make a Honka movie?
Speaker 1: Eh? That's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Well, it is the whole thing.
Speaker 3: What else you could teach me?
Speaker 2: Abu hankah?
Speaker 1: You sound like you know than I do.
Speaker 2: Man, Nah, dude, I'm only learning what I know from
Speaker 2: a dude up in Portland.
Speaker 1: It wears leather, Yeah, that guy definitely knows. I think
Speaker 1: that guy probably has a crazy hankah that that leather guy.
Speaker 1: He probably lights all the candles of of the Menora
Speaker 1: and then uses it to burn the fuck out of
Speaker 1: his back, and like a crazy he probably drips Minora
Speaker 1: candlewax in his asshole.
Speaker 2: Is that a thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably, I know that.
Speaker 2: Like Grinch porn is a thing.
Speaker 1: What's grinch porn?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Like Rule thirty four? Like porn of the grend No?
Speaker 1: Like no.
Speaker 2: So my fiance used to work at the adult shop
Speaker 2: and they sell Grinch costumes, like the green Grinch guy,
Speaker 2: and people dress up as the green sch and do
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's I guess that's not any weirder
Speaker 1: than having sex in a gecko costume.
Speaker 2: That's fair. How many times have you done it? In
Speaker 2: the gecko costume.
Speaker 1: What's your name again?
Speaker 2: You don't have to tell me. My name is Devon,
Speaker 2: but you don't have to tell me Devin.
Speaker 1: Whose kid is the kid? Is it a kid that
Speaker 1: you guys had together, or is it like a step child?
Speaker 2: Uh? He is my step son? Oh?
Speaker 1: Cool man?
Speaker 2: What? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How's so is it? Is it? Is he like full
Speaker 1: time with you guys? Or is he does he see
Speaker 1: ye like his his his his other dad? Or is
Speaker 1: it just you two raising him together?
Speaker 2: Just us? Which is pretty cool?
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: The yeah, yeah, uh, he definitely full time. Uh, he's
Speaker 2: full time here and so likes all the thing stuff
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: And yeah, do you guys have a Christmas tree yet?
Speaker 2: We do? I call, I can send you a picture
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite ornament on the tree?
Speaker 2: Hm hmm right now, so we had this, Like I'm
Speaker 2: looking at one of our tiny trees. We have a
Speaker 2: rainbow one. It's got a little like star on top,
Speaker 2: but on top of the start it's got a wizard
Speaker 2: hat and a beard. That one's probably my favorite right now.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Do you do you guys?
Speaker 3: Hm?
Speaker 1: Hm, Bro, that's so cool that you made friends with
Speaker 1: that with that leather guy and that he's gonna be
Speaker 1: at your wedding. I'm stuckd about that. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: I love that kind of show. I love that kind
Speaker 1: of show. I'm like, dude, I actually I met, I've
Speaker 1: like met. I did a show in Japan and I
Speaker 1: met this couple a few shows later. I forget which
Speaker 1: country I was in, but there was a couple. It
Speaker 1: was like, these two people who came to my Japan
Speaker 1: show together came to one of my shows in this
Speaker 1: other country and I was like, oh shit, I remember
Speaker 1: you guys, and they were like, yeah, we we we
Speaker 1: we're together now. We met at your show. And I
Speaker 1: think that's happened a few times where people like we'll
Speaker 1: meet at the show and like become friends and you know,
Speaker 1: do all this shit.
Speaker 2: So you know that.
Speaker 1: I think that's hell of cool. So I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you're friends with Does he have a name? I keep
Speaker 1: calling him Jewish leather guy. I feel like I should
Speaker 1: call him his name.
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I just looked at his picture on Instagram.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I know you we.
Speaker 1: Did on Instagram. Does he have a bunch of pictures
Speaker 1: of him? And like leather. Does he have a picture
Speaker 1: of himself with a leather KIPA?
Speaker 2: I believe so. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, yes,
Speaker 2: I think it was posted a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: I'll have to look again. It's been a minute.
Speaker 1: That's really fun.
Speaker 2: We were shopping a couple like a few weeks after
Speaker 2: your show, and someone that we had also met in
Speaker 2: line to talk to you with worked at a local
Speaker 2: store and they were like, Hey, I know you, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, excuse you? Who are you? Nick?
Speaker 3: You're a therapy get go.
Speaker 2: We talked in line. I was like what what and
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, man, you don't remember me? Like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't really don't. I wanted to do a shout out.
Speaker 2: If she's listening her and her fiance or husband or
Speaker 2: boyfriend or whoever, I'm really sorry that I forgot who
Speaker 2: you were, all right.
Speaker 1: I forget people all the time. And uh, you know
Speaker 1: it's fine. People get upset and then you just you know,
Speaker 1: you live your life. You go to a sandwich.
Speaker 2: Hey, I had a question also another one. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: what's up? How do you deal with like all these
Speaker 2: people that are just so upset.
Speaker 1: All the time, Like upset at me.
Speaker 2: No, No, just like upset in general. Like sometimes on
Speaker 2: your show you have a lot of happy people and
Speaker 2: you get like a lot of sad people that are
Speaker 2: just like existential and really rough, and I'm like, hey man,
Speaker 2: why you know, like, let's just chill, bro I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that a lot lately because we've
Speaker 1: had a lot of like crazy calls like that, and dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I just like, at this point,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm showing up to you know this,
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm showing up to work. I'm like
Speaker 1: doing the thing. I'm this is, this is what I do.
Speaker 1: This is the show. And sometimes it's it's a little bit, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, more dense than others. And you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think that having these
Speaker 1: these dense conversations and having like a regular window into
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of stuff, and and and a
Speaker 1: window into the way that people are feeling, even if
Speaker 1: those feelings are negative, I think that that's a helpful
Speaker 1: thing for me. I hope it's a helpful thing for
Speaker 1: the people that are listening. And so even on the
Speaker 1: days where I'm just like fuck, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can do this ship ah, you know, we just
Speaker 1: we do it and uh we sell T shirts.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, pretty cool, that's pretty noble, honestly, Like I
Speaker 2: sell coffee all day and my highlights are like besides
Speaker 2: coming home, just telling people like I hope this makes
Speaker 2: you feel better today, whereas like you're able to actually
Speaker 2: give them full on advice and the chat is awesome
Speaker 2: all the time. But thank you as well. I think
Speaker 2: that's cool. Thank you guys do a really cool thing
Speaker 2: and I'm glad to be a part of that community.
Speaker 1: So, Devin, man, is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: You know, I do stop making your drink order so complicated.
Speaker 2: We don't like it, all right, everyone.
Speaker 1: I just like a little bit of almond milk. That's it.
Speaker 1: I just like almond milk.
Speaker 2: Just a quarter spoon of almond milk.
Speaker 1: Upon Hey, thank you for the kind words, Devin. It
Speaker 1: means a lot. And uh, mazle tove to you and
Speaker 1: your family. Take care of man.
Speaker 2: Hey, happy Hanukah and Mary Christians.
Speaker 1: Take care dude. I could do a we could do
Speaker 1: a Christmas I mean a Hanka movie. We could do
Speaker 1: a Hanka movie. I could do the How the Gex
Speaker 1: Stole Honakah.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: It's just me shoving candles up my ass. Hello, folks,
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5: My uh, honestly, my grandpa like died, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: whatever happens.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, you're this happened a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this Uh, he died on October twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: You came for the first time a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5: Listen, listen, listen. There's some back story to this.
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Speaker 3: They goes on the line, thank you, but he's not
Speaker 3: really an expert.