WEBVTT - “I MASTURBATED IN AN ATTACK HELICOPTER” 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.640 Hello, Hey, what's up man? 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:04.320 How are you doing? 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:08.200 What's your name? What's going on with you today? What 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:08.960 you want to talk about? 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:13.039 Well, so I had a question. Oh god, this is 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:19.520 gonna sound so bad. So, in an unnamed location, I 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:26.120 may have masturbated on a helicopter very near several guys. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.320 But they didn't see it and they didn't know what happened. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:36.160 So is it gay? 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.440 What was the context of being in the helicopter in 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:42.120 the first place? 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:44.440 War? 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:58.440 You were fighting in a war, yes, riding in a helicopter. Correct, 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:06.080 masturbating in the helicopter briefly, Yeah, that's a little guy. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.680 Yeah, But they didn't know, and like it wasn't about them. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.360 It was just kind of this primal urge. You know, 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:15.400 how are you? 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.720 How are you able to masturbate in a helicopter? A 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.880 helicopter is like such a compact space. And also, well, okay, 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:22.959 hell were you are you? 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:23.320 Are you? 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:24.560 Were you a soldier? 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.840 I know, yes, military, not soldier. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.080 Okay, you were? You were in so you you were 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.959 like you're wearing all this like fucking combat gear. You've 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.759 an AK forty seven strapped to your back, and you 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.360 somehow find a way to pull your dick out and masturbate. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.200 Yeah, well, I mean there's several layers, and you know, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:54.160 granted not everybody could make that happen. It does take 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.760 some skill. But I mean, does that make it less 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.120 gay because it takes more skill? 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:05.480 Are you still in the army? 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:06.680 No? 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:12.840 Why? 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.520 It just didn't feel right, you know, m hm. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.120 How long were you in the army for. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.560 Twelve years? 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.280 What year out of the twelve years was the year 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:29.760 that you masturbated in the helicopter? 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:34.440 I pleaded the sieth. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.120 Where did you ejaculate? Did you ejaculate? 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:40.839 Oh? 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:42.880 Yeah, of course? I mean what's the point if you don't. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:44.600 Where did you ejaculate? 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.040 Just out the window? I mean probably stuck to the 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.240 side of the thing because we're flying. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.840 You're okay there, dude, there there's no way in hell 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.880 that you ejaculated out the window of a helicopter with 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.560 a filled people without anybody knowing. There's just no way 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:03.160 that you did that. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.040 Well, so it's going to be hard to explain. But 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.800 when you're wearing night vision goggles, it throws your depth 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:14.840 perception way off, so you can't see anything within ten 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.040 feet of view and your field of view is very restricted. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.960 You can only see far out, so nobody's looking inside. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:30.000 So you see everybody wearing night vision goggles and you go, oh, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:31.960 you're wearing them too, So I mean, could you even 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:32.720 see your penis? 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:32.919 Then? 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.520 No? God, no, you don't need to see your dick 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:36.120 to masturbate. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.880 This is crazy that our tax dollars go to this. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.440 Well, you know, it wasn't really you shouldn't think of 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.840 it like the tax dollars are paying for masturbation. It 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.240 was just kind of a symptom of the environment. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:03:59.280 How so. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.680 Hard to explain unless you've been there. I'm telling you, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.000 I bet somebody in chat has experienced a combat boner. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.960 So you're saying that war makes you horny. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.960 No, not quite, not in that sense. You can get 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.200 a physical reaction. You ever heard of a NARB no 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:26.240 apparent reason bone? 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:27.960 Yes, yeah, I know what that is. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.520 You could have something similar to that, but like think 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:36.200 of being stimulated to the max. But then also you 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:41.240 have like the vibrations of the helicopter. I don't know, so. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.719 It was the helicopter the major horny. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:46.760 Maybe? 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.360 Okay, Well I'm glad you're not in the military anymore. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:52.719 Yeah, me too. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:54.240 What do you do now? 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.680 What are this little of that you. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.440 Know that sounds like you do a whole lot more 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.960 of jacking off a lot. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:06.480 Ghek, I'm masturbate a lot. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.520 Yeah, do you do or anything? Are you a real person? 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:10.400 Are you fucking with me? 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:11.360 No? 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.360 I actually I swear true story. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:23.200 Okay, tell me more about combat boners. What why do 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:24.960 you think they occur? 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.760 I don't know. I like a few people that I 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:36.400 had talked to have experienced them and acted upon them. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:40.760 Not quite in that manner looking back, not the best call, 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:48.240 But I just think there's something to do with really 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.920 tapping into that primal caveman that's inside of all of us. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.560 And if you let that guy really get a hold 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.440 of everything, he's gonna want to jerk off. You know, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.719 there's no cave woman around. I'll bring you back to 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.479 your cave. You're surrounding by guys for a year. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.479 There should be some kind of call of duty kill 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.320 streak award that just makes the opposing team I'll get 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.600 a boner, maybe. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.440 Like a tactical boner nuke. 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.440 Tactical boner nuke. Do you have a Do you tell 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:19.080 me about your life? 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:19.360 Now? 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.560 What do you do? And don't say a little bit 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:25.320 of this, a little bit of that. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.520 I'm trying to not really docks myself here, you know 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:30.960 what I mean. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:36.600 But you've already docked yourself. You're the guy who masturbated 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:37.760 in a helicopter. That's you. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:38.640 Yeah, that's true. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.560 And nobody cares about your first and last name. They 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.520 already know much deeper information about you. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:49.440 Yeah, I'm a helicopterm masturbator. Well, I work at a 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:55.000 small shop in a pretty rural area and live a 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:55.920 very slow life. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.520 Now, okay, is that enjoyable for you? 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:00.840 No? I fucking hate it. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:03.480 Why do you hate it? 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:12.480 Trying to figure that out? Gick? Not a whole lot 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.040 of happiness in life ever since that year? 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.040 Okay, so I'm gonna guess it was year twelve. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.840 No, it was. I think it would have been ten. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.000 Okay. So when you say not a whole lot of 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:30.840 happiness since that year, you mean the year that you 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.080 masturbated in the helicopter. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:33.480 Yeah. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.120 Yeah, just the whole year surrounding that incident. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:37.560 Yeah, Okay, why is that? 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:45.000 I don't know nothing. Uh. I think that's kind of 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.960 the side effect of it, is you for this year. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:55.160 I feel like you just use up so much of 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:02.360 your body's adrenaline. You just this roller coaster of emotions. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.400 You're you're working days straight, you get a few hour nap, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:09.120 got to wake up, go on a mission, go go go. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.080 You can never really think of anything. And then you 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.600 get home. All in the span of like a week, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:22.760 you go from that life to a grinding halt and 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:28.640 everything is slow and nothing's scary and you're just a 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:33.240 normal person again. And that is very difficult to deal with. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.319 So you missed the excitement of warfare. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:44.160 Yeah, but I don't miss war. It's a double edged 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.640 sword man, and you know, it's a whole pointless war anyway. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.480 I don't want to get into that side of things there. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.320 But what war? What war? 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:53.640 Is this? 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:54.800 What are we are? 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:55.000 You? 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:57.840 Were you in Irq? 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.120 One of the countries that we were in the past 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:02.720 twenty years? 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:13.600 Damn dude, that's uh, that's that's that's the that's the 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.320 US engaging in biological warfare right there, just coming on 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.440 another country. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.880 Do you think they like, do you think they trained 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.480 me to do that? And I didn't even know it. 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:25.720 No? 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.400 Do you have a family? Do you have friends? 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.200 Sons? No family? 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:39.600 Okay? What do you think would make your life more exciting. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:46.400 Man, trying to figure that out too. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.200 How long have you been out of the military for 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.440 a couple of years now, and the whole time you've 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.280 just been hanging out in this small town. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.160 For the most part. Yeah, yeah, I try to find 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.880 work after the military is the hardest part. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.520 Did they give you any money? How do they how 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.439 do they do? Are we at a point where I 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:12.599 don't know any of the ship. Are we at a 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.320 point where like, if you're a veteran you get a 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.440 bunch of money or do you not get money? 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.120 No? No, you have to you have to do a 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.160 full Yes, they found out what they did in the helicopter, 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:25.920 I mean for sure, but you have to do it. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:27.360 I mean, you did twelve you have to do a 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.760 full what you did twelve. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.760 Years, you got to do twenty plus. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.600 You gotta do twenty plus. Yeah, god damn. So all right, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.200 so you just left and they were like, all right, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.240 see you go work at McDonald's. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.160 Yeah, pretty much. I mean what you got to turn 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.840 in some uniforms and stuff. But then when you get out, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.600 you can you can you know, grow facial hair, smoke 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:48.439 pot and get fat. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.960 That's not so bad. You can do that. Without going 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.079 into the military. I know, I know firsthand. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.480 Yeah, nobody really told me that. 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:05.440 Let's see, So in these past two years, have you 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.480 done anything to make an attempt to spice up your 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.640 life in any way? 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:21.640 Hmm, not really. I think I was just trying to 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.800 establish my new life, you know, get a house, get 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:31.640 a source of income coming, and honestly, for the first year, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.360 I was just trying to not kill myself. M hm. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:39.599 So that occupied you. Just it's hard to explain it. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:44.120 Just I felt so emotionally neutral that even even if 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.839 you brought me to six Flags, I would just look 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.839 at a roller coaster and think it looks boring, you. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.280 Know, you know, you know, I feel like the old 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.040 guy from the six Flags commercials when he's not at 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.319 six Flags, is also actively trying every day not to 0:11:59.400 --> 0:11:59.920 kill himself. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.640 That's a good point. Maybe I should dance like him. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:07.320 Yeah. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.120 Man, So you come home after a twelve year tour 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.840 of around the country and you're just it's a total 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:21.560 different environment. You're not around people every single day like 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:26.640 you were. Uh, you're not as you say, go go 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.480 go and having your you know, your your brain and 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:33.840 your body are far more idle than they were before, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.319 and it's driving It drove you fucking crazy. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.439 Yeah, yeah, it about sums it up. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:45.160 Uh huh. So are you still in and it's okay 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.360 if you are. Are you still in this like I'm 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.640 trying every day just to just to get through the 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.320 day mode. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:13:02.680 No, uh that that got better a bit maybe six 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:07.560 months ago. Quit drinking, quit smoking, quit doing a lot 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:12.600 of stuff, just trying to be healthier and just I mean, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.800 it just takes time. You know, there's there's there's nothing 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.319 you can really do to just turn that ship around 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.560 in a month. Everything takes time. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.080 Mm hmm. Well, I feel like I mean, the go 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.920 Go go nature, It's it's really just it's really just 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:33.880 this idea that for certain certain people like a slow life. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.560 And then there's certain people where, you know, if they're 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.760 not constantly being stimulated and out and about and achieving 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:46.319 objectives and doing things that you know, their their brain 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.120 just goes to to dark places when it doesn't have 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:49.760 a thing to do. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:50.640 You know. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.200 Yeah, I'm not really like that. Ghek, Like I don't 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.400 I don't really want the go go go anymore. But 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.040 that's I don't really know what I do want. That's 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.960 kind of the side effect of it. But really, I 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.880 just keep wishing I could be left the hell alone 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.760 and go somewhere and not be a slave to the 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.440 nine to five. And then I didn't know how bad 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:17.439 everybody had it out here. This shit sucks, m So. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:18.480 You just don't want to be a slave to here 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.080 nine to five? 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.000 No, God, No? 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.160 Did you save any money over the course of the 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.160 twelve years? 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.840 Oh? Ghek, I blew that so hard? Are you kidding me? 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:29.200 Would you blow it on. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.040 House and then a car? 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.760 I wouldn't consider buying a house to be blowing money. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.640 Yeah, but do we really need houses? You know? I 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.760 think all the time, what if I didn't have this place, 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.440 I could get in a van and drive the country 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.880 or travel the world. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.520 I don't know how much was the house. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.400 It was cheap. It's a rural area. It was like 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:02.800 two hundred and than thirty something like. 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.160 That in cash. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.600 No, No, financed a lot of it, all. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.840 Right, How much money do is you put down the house? 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:12.240 Actually? 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:12.600 None? 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.560 When when you're in the military and you do a deployment, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.680 you are eligible for a VA home loan, and that's 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.880 a zero down, low interest rate loans, So it doesn't 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.000 make a ton of sense to even really put your 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:28.360 money up front on it anyway. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.560 Oh okay, but you have equity in the house, I do, Yeah, okay? 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.320 Could you? Could you feasibly rent it out or sell 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.160 it and use the money to get a van and 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:39.840 travel around? 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.320 I thought about that. But what happens if the furnace 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.240 goes out and you're in the middle of nowhere? You 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:49.000 know what I mean, that's your responsibility as the land 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.680 I don't want to be a scumbag landlord. If I 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.120 could rent this place out for just what it cost 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.800 me and know that I wouldn't have any complications, I 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.040 would do that. I would never do it for profit. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.120 Okay, but what about Yeah, what. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.880 About the responsibility for your renter? 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.320 What about uh? I mean? Could just sell the house 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.760 then and just take the equity and buy a van? 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.200 Yes? But what do I do after that? Geg, Let's 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.840 say I travel for a year or two. You know, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.960 I'm not exactly young. You can add it up by 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.320 the time I was in the military. You get back, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.800 you still don't have a job. You probably burned up 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.920 the money from the equity in your house. You're back 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:29.600 at square one. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.960 Yeah, it is true. It is true. We live in 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.360 a universe where you need to figure out some way 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:44.440 to make enough money to eat food and not die. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.440 Yeah, I mean that's the idea. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.320 How much money do you need to eat food and 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:50.920 not die? 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:53.440 Where am I eating? 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.600 Uh? The the bare minimum that you need that you'd 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.360 be happy you with, but you also won't have to 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:03.880 have a job. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:05.160 Hmmm. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.920 I don't know. Have to imagine if you're on the road, 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.040 you can't exactly be preparing all of your meals because 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.000 you've got restricted space. So it's probably going to be 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.800 more expensive, probably more around the four four hundred bucks 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:24.040 three four. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.920 Hundred bucks a month, three to four hundred bucks a month, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:29.359 if right. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.080 I've never really lived down the road, you know, but 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.600 I'm just guessing food is more expensive if you're trying 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.560 to stay traveling. You can't you don't have a full 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.879 sized fridge in the pantry, you know. 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.880 Listen. I don't know. I'm playing Dave Ramsey here because 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:48.760 it's fun, but that's it, right, I don't know, man, 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:55.880 I like listen, I think you could figure it out, 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:57.320 is what I'm saying. 0:17:58.200 --> 0:17:58.439 You know. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.120 Yeah, all right, so you so you don't you don't 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.240 you well, you said, I blew my money. I thought 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:05.640 you meant you spent it all on coke. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.040 No, I mean a little bit on coke, for sure, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.360 a little bit on acid. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:11.400 Hmm. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:12.800 Some fun trips in there. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.520 But have you ever spoke to a real therapist? Do 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.960 they give you like health insurance and ship? 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:23.719 Yeah, And the the first therapist I talked to, uh, 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.080 the second time she saw me, she said, she got 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:30.119 moved elsewhere. Okay, so then they get they assigned me 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:34.280 to a different one. And then I opened up to her, 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.199 and then she got transferred, and by the time I 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.280 got to the third one, I was sick of the system. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.119 And then by the time I got to the fourth 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.280 one and I opened up to her, she said, Jesus Christ, 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:49.760 I don't know what to say. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:54.880 So you went through the therapy. Ringer tried, all right, 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.200 well again, it sounds like you're doing it. Sounds like 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.159 you're doing well. Sounds like you're doing better. If you 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.920 went from I'm trying every day not to kill myself too, 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.040 you know, I'm doing okay. I just don't want to 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:08.600 work a job. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:09.760 Yeah. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.760 Yeah, that's the that's the default of all people pretty much. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.080 Yeah, yeah, m. 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.880 Well, what else? 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:22.200 Man? 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.400 What else while I have you on the phone. 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:31.000 I don't know. 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.960 I didn't really plan past the jerking off in a helicopter. 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:35.800 I thought I thought that was kind of going to 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.520 be the focus of it. We we really went a 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.040 lot deeper there than I pictured. 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:45.360 Yeah, I mean, jerking off in the helicopter. It's pretty funny, right, 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.480 it's pretty funny, but it's I don't know if we 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.680 could have talked about it for twenty whole minutes, even 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:53.879 though we sort of did. 0:19:54.600 --> 0:20:00.400 Yeah, yeah, it was pretty pretty small amount of time 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:01.800 to talk about it for twenty minutes. 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.880 But yeah, I. 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:08.320 Still I don't we you've talked about all these things, 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.439 and I almost I feel I feel as though we 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:16.639 should end this phone call with some form of resolution. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:22.480 You know, there's no resolution of any kind of anything at. 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:27.280 All, not not today. But who's to say what tomorrow brings. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.920 That's a resolution. Yeah, that's missing. 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.640 Yeah, I'll leave you with I'm not planning to leave 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.160 us here anytime soon. 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.800 Okay, great, great, great, that's I would say. That's a 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.760 good resolution. Yeah, what's your name again? 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:46.760 I'm not saying that again? 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.720 All right, Well, how many times did you tell me 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.560 over the course of the cast I think. 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.200 I think maybe once at the beginning, but uh, you 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.120 know whatever, I'm gonna. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.000 Call you Bruce because there's because I could just have 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.359 everyone tell me to tell me their names and I 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.160 would just you could just all be anonymous. That would 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:11.440 be easier for everyone. Bruce, thank you for your service. 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.240 You know, Gek, I appreciate you for your service. 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:19.639 I was gonna make some I was gonna make some 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:24.720 joke that alluded back to you jerking off in the helicopter, 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.639 but I couldn't think of anything quickly enough, so I 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.760 just sincerely thanked you for your service. 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:31.920 Couldn't come up with a catchy punchline for the inner 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:32.600 jerk offer. 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.560 Now you're a cool guy, Bruce. I appreciate you calling. 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.200 I hope you find something to do with your life 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.840 that makes you happy. I don't believe that there's no 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.600 resolution to this. I think that even the mere fact 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.920 that you are on an upwards trajectory from where you 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.280 were before and now you have a hope for the future. 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.720 I think if you just keep tinkering around, hopefully something 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:04.040 will we'll catch your your interest. 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.680 Yeah, we'll get there, all right. I have a feeling 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.439 I'll probably find it outside of the country. 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:12.960 Yeah, I think so too, Man, check out. I'm always 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.680 on Airbnb looking at like a Bali, Like, how cheap 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.880 could I live in Bali or any of these other places? 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:20.360 Yeah? 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:23.119 Yeah, it's pretty incredible. I mean you have places like 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.040 the Philippines too, where all the natives speak English and 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.080 everything costs about a quarter of the price. 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.800 Well, Bruce, go jack off in your own bed. You 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:36.080 deserve it. I will get I will take care, love you, 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:41.080 love you too. This is why I do the podcast, man, 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:44.400 You get to talk to all kinds of people about 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:53.200 jerking off in all kinds of places. Hey, what's up? Yeah? 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:53.600 Who is this? 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:54.840 Hey? 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:55.720 This is Paul. 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:57.359 Paul. What's going on? 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:01.840 Many's just sitting here. I was watching dragon ball D 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:02.840 play stream came on. 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.240 You know, killing you were watching dragon ball Z. What 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:07.760 episode of dragon ball Z? 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.080 Like three episodes from the end of the Freezer saga. 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.119 You know, I know that it's like the most I 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:17.879 know it's like the most popular thing ever, But I've 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.440 actually never watched an episode of dragon ball Z. 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.639 Really, it's almost hard to believe. Like, even if you 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.359 just watch random cartoons as. 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.480 A kid, it's the episode or two well, I kind 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:31.880 of looked like a fat version of that one green guy. 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:32.600 What's his name? 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:38.560 Oh, there's a few of those Pickolo, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:41.720 play yeah. 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.600 I guess I look like I look like a combination 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:45.720 of him and Boo. 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.080 You have what a badass version? 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:52.320 Right? 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.760 So what did you say your name was? Again? 0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:57.240 Paul? 0:23:57.960 --> 0:23:58.240 Paul? 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:01.000 Paul? Would you want to talk about today? 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:03.399 So? 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:07.720 I guess the biggest thing that I wanted to talk about, 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:09.280 just because I thought it was more interesting than my 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:14.760 other day to day problems, was that, in a I 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.480 kind of got myself into a situation where I'm part 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:23.320 of like living a let's praise like a double life here. 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.200 So I grew up conservative Christian, and most of my 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:31.240 friends are conservative if they're not Christians. 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:33.200 The last. 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:43.040 Year or so been in the BDSM community where I live. 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.040 I gotta say, I don't know if you mentioned this already, 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:52.960 but you said that you are a trucker in Alaska. Yeah, 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:59.920 you are part of a BDSM community in Alaska, I am, Yeah, 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.720 it's too cold for BDSM over there, it is. 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:07.800 Yeah, Well, I'm I'm currently in Washington for the winter 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:09.080 for exactly that reason. 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.119 So I mean, what do you so there are clubs 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.680 in a lab. There's like dungeons in Alaska where people 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.600 go to tie each other up and fuck each other. 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:24.440 Yeah, pretty much. It's less of the big I think. 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.879 I haven't been to any, but I think in bigger 0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.320 cities they just have open clubs all the time where 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:31.639 you can just kind of go in and do the 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:36.399 BDSM stuff. But here it's more of a public normal 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.000 meetings just to meet and greet, and then people have 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.800 private parties and stuff. Once you're at the point where 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.480 you're trustworthy and everything and you find somebody you want 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:45.840 to play with. 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:48.920 So you are. 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.679 Do you still identify as a conservative Christian? 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:55.400 Yeah? 0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:57.600 Interesting? 0:25:58.320 --> 0:25:58.760 Do do? 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:06.159 Does conservative Christian values and BDSM ship do that? Do 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:06.840 they conflict? 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:08.520 Yeah? 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.320 They are pretty much on the opposite end of the 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:15.560 spectrum for the most part. But I'm kind of a 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:21.000 I can see both points of view, So depending on 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.280 which group of people I'm with at any given time, 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.359 I just kind of find myself agree with whatever. 0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.760 All right, let's say you're with I would love to 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:36.879 hear your perspective on BDSM sex from as a as 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:37.959 a conservative Christian. 0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:48.080 Okay, Well, I like that you can just kind of relax. H. 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:53.040 So I am more often than not identify as a submissive. 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.399 So that's kind of nice to let somebody else take control, 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.800 I would say. And it's less there's not actually that 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.040 much sex in the play I was doing. It's more 0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:10.520 like you know, beatings and sign people up and stuff 0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:10.760 like that. 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.960 Do you think that God doesn't want you to tie 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.280 people up and spank them on the ass? 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.919 And yeah, I would say that to a point. Anyways, 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:36.000 I think the biggest conflict is not so much the 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:41.399 actual well, it's kind of the actual act now I 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:41.879 think about it. 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.159 Why do you think God doesn't like that? What is 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:46.960 it about it that bothers him? 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:58.480 I think that it's a gateway to more hedonistic behavior 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:06.560 your day to day life, which, in my opinion, you know, 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:10.159 it's good in doses, but I think it leads to 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:18.960 a mindset where you're prioritizing your personal physical pleasures over 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.240 other more important things in your life, to the point where, 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.240 if where it becomes almost an addiction of like, I 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:31.600 have to see feeling good all the time or I 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:32.639 can't function. 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.479 Do you feel like you neglect important things in your 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.560 life to feel good? 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.560 Yeah? I try not to do that. All the time. 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.200 But that's definitely something I struggle with. 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.200 What's something recently that you feel like you neglected to 0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.360 get whipped. 0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.239 While putting my one group of friends on hold thing 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:01.960 because you know, the two don't really mesh. So I 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.760 kind of distanced myself from the. 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:05.360 People I. 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.640 Love and care about a lot to do that. 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:11.640 M hm. 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.200 And I get another group of people tell me about 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:18.040 in both groups. 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.440 Uh so the older friends there and it's not like 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.680 a group of like super hardcore Christians were like, oh, 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:32.640 you know, we all we we hate the other group, 0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:36.239 but just more of a core value type of thing. 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.600 Most of them don't actually go to a church that 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.600 kind of like me where they grew up Christian and 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.480 now they're just conservatives other than one and that I 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.240 have is basically the perfect Christian in my opinion. 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.480 What makes him the perfect Christian. 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:55.840 He just has the. 0:29:56.120 --> 0:30:02.520 Ability to get along with people even if he doesn't 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.600 agree with what they stand for. And he just has 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.360 an amazing way of oh it's irme to describe, like 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:16.320 he'll just put himself or put others before himself in 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.320 all situations. But he's able to maintain a balance of 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.720 like not just being a pushover at the same time, 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:24.840 which is something I would like to be. 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:25.160 Able to do. 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.320 But I kind of go one way or thegether I 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:31.280 moved here doing whatever anybody says, or I'm getting to 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.360 an unhealthy mindset where I just get tired of being 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.760 pushed around, and then I don't look out for anybody 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.520 except myself, and then I kind of go back and 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:40.320 forth between those two mindsets. 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.640 It's very interesting because nothing of what you've told me 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:53.680 so far has really been anything about God. It's just 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.000 about like personal human values. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.800 Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm not a hard 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:09.000 practicing Christian, I would say, or a hardcore Christian. I 0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:13.480 go to church occasionally, but it's I don't know, it's 0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:18.760 more about the community of people that I'm around. 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:32.640 Now, do your conservative Christian friends know about your BDSM life? 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:38.200 Some of them do you? Okay, why do you feel 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:39.760 like there's a conflict. 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:49.520 Well, the main conflict actually comes from the other end 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:55.480 of things with the BDSM community because I'm not out 0:31:55.720 --> 0:32:00.200 as conservative. Because you know the kind of conflict being 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.160 then I don't judge people for what they do. I 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:07.960 just vote differently than them. But over there, at least 0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:15.400 in our community, any mention of uh, computer Christian or 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:15.880 anything like that. 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:16.720 They don't like it at all. 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.880 They kind of gang up on people. You don't want, 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.320 you don't want where everybody. 0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.280 Yeah, you don't want your BDSM friends to know that 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:25.960 that you voted for Trump? 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.080 Yeah exactly. 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:40.959 Well, huh, you're you're You're a peculiar little cookie. 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:43.760 Yeah. 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:44.920 I've been told that a few times. 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:55.720 So I mean, like, m tell me, okay, so I 0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.040 feel like I learned a little bit about your Christian friends. 0:32:58.080 --> 0:32:59.840 Tell me more about your BDSM friends. 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:09.240 So now XP But until recently, my girlfriend was actually 0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:16.080 one of the community leaders who hosts parties and events 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.360 and meet and greets and stuff like that. 0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:21.040 What happens. 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:24.480 We just had. 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.360 Different outlooks on what the future can bring. I guess 0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:36.640 we started as a It was a polyamorous relationship, so 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:40.440 she already had a long term partner, and going into it, 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:42.960 I didn't know if I'd like it or not doing 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.960 the polyamory thing. Then it turned out that I didn't 0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:50.200 like it, so that was the main reason. But when 0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:55.720 we started, she and her long term partner were just partners, 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.680 and then all of a sudden, one day she just 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.040 dropped the ball that they were getting married, which didn't 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:06.440 really sit well with me, so I kind of broke off. 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:12.239 What is it that draws you to the sort of 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:16.400 alternative lifestyle polyamory BDSM and community. 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:24.640 That's fun and everybody you know, there's a lot of 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:31.719 naked people, so that's always enjoyable, you know what. 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.480 I guess it doesn't have to really be deeper than that. 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.760 Yeah, that's you know, that's that's the main part of it, okay. 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:44.560 And what draws you to, uh, Donald Trump and the 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:45.880 conservative stuff? 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:55.239 I think because being having more conservative values is what 0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:59.719 I want to focus on in my day to day 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.840 life and just the direction that I think personally that 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:05.239 you know, I don't have all the answers, but the 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.920 direction I think personally that the values we should be 0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.320 focusing on in the direction the country should go. So 0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:12.840 I guess I kind of view that as like my 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.080 you know, my blue collar day to day mindset, and 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:21.480 then the BDSM stuff is like on the weekends to 0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:22.000 the side. 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.760 Now, what, uh, what do you what do you consider 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.759 to be well, how would you define those values? Those 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.880 those uh values that you would like to see more of? 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:43.320 Just more of a Oh no, I had all the 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.320 answers to that until you've asked me that question, and 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:56.440 now that I have to think about it, uh, I 0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.920 guess a lot some of it is Like financially, Uh 0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:08.400 I think the conservative lifestyle goes is makes more sense. 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:08.400 To me. 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:11.799 Financially. 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:14.759 Yeah, just. 0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:18.080 Do you have? 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:19.120 Do you do you? 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.200 It's okay if you don't have an answer to this question, but. 0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:28.600 Okay, well can I can I say? 0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.600 Can I say something? Yeah, if you don't have an 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:42.560 answer to this question, like maybe like I mean, I 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:43.840 don't know, I don't know, I mean what what? 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:44.320 What is? 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.120 What is all of this stuff even coming from? 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:46.279 Is? 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.960 It's just like an identity that you've built that you 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:54.719 haven't really taken a second to to reconsider or or 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:56.200 think more deeply about. 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.400 Yeah, I would say that at least part of it, 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:02.960 because you know, that's how I grew up. So it's 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.160 a core part of my identity. 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.680 Okay, this core part of your identity. This is a 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:12.480 genuine question. I'm not trying to look. Look, look, I'm 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.719 not here to fucking what you know, tell anybody to 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:21.000 do anything, but this core part of your identity does 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.000 does it continue to serve you well in your life? 0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:30.880 I'm not saying you need to have the answer to 0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.240 that question immediately, but it's something to think about. 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:40.160 Yeah, I would say that it does in terms of. 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:43.840 It drives me. 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.240 It's one of the things that motivates me and drives 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.000 me to keep going forward in the way that I 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:54.080 want to live my life, in terms of looking to 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:55.680 the future, in terms of where I want to be 0:37:55.800 --> 0:38:01.359 in like five or ten years career wise, and how 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:05.120 I want to go about starting a family one day. 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:05.720 I suppose. 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.520 I mean, this is a funny thing because you're just 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.839 talking about self improvement. You're just talking You're just talking 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.520 about personal values. You're not even really talking about God 0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:23.000 or about politics or any of this stuff. You're really 0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:27.120 just talking about, like I said, personal values and self improvement. 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:34.040 Yeah, So why do you Because I don't want to 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:38.759 to anybody off that's the scene. I don't know. I 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:40.759 guess I don't want to talk about it because a 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:42.160 lot of the time when I start talking about it, 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:45.200 I get called a big eight or whatever mm hm, 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:49.000 which I don't think you do, but you'll do. But uh, 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:52.480 I guess that's part of my hesitation why I'm not 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:54.320 really used to talking about it. 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.719 So I so, Okay. So then when I asked you 0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.920 these questions before, were you not answering it because you 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.160 were afraid to talk about it or because you genuinely 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:03.920 didn't have an answer? 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.400 A little bit of both, a little bit of not 0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.040 want I talk about, a little bit of brain fare. 0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:18.920 Okay, Well again, I'll leave it at the question of 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:23.960 whether or not these things continue to serve you and 0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:27.400 I only you can really answer that question, but it's 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:38.560 worth thinking about, especially if you're entering all these different 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.920 communities and and and universes and trying to find a 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:49.000 universe that makes you feel happy to to exist in. 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:58.920 You know what I'm saying A little bit, Yeah, did 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.879 you storm the Capitol January sixth? 0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:02.759 No? I did not. 0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:08.520 Okay, Paul. Well let's see, Paul, is there anything else 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.920 I should know about you or anything else you want 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:17.000 to talk about in this scenario, in this in this 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:18.759 in this conversation. 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:26.200 No, I guess not just the yeah yeah, A great show, Paul. 0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.080 Paul, I want you to you know what, Paul, I 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.480 I I want to challenge you. I actually think that 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:40.360 you should start the first Christian BDSM club. I really do, 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:44.000 I really, I really want to challenge you to think 0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.960 deeply about whether or not your values truly are as 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.960 in conflict with one another as you think they are. 0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:54.320 Because look, if you found out that there was a 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.600 Christian BDSM club, I mean, you'd be the first one 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.960 in line in the morning. So there's others like you 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:03.520 out there, So throw throw it out there. You know, 0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.600 you could be on the cusp of something something beautiful. 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.760 Who knows it's been great? You know, I mean just imagine. 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:17.160 I mean, by the way, by the way, nothing kinkier 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:22.279 than getting nailed to a cross, that is true. You 0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:25.000 could say Jesus was the first. That could be cool. 0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.400 You could have a like a Jesus nailed to the 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.359 cross with if the gimp mask on and you're whipping him, 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:34.840 do you should do? All right? If you don't do this, 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.520 I'm gonna do this, so I'm I look forward. 0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.200 Well when you do that, I'll be the first one 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:40.640 on the door. 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.279 Uh, Paul's anything else you gonna say to the people 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:44.920 of the computer. 0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:45.080 Before we go? 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:52.279 Nope, other than just thanks for having me. If nothing else, 0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:54.160 is felt good to talk about it to somebody. You know, 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:56.160 it's not really the problem I can talk about out 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:57.000 loud to most people. 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.560 I take careful, I'll have a going you see your 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:05.720 thinks Wow, it's perfect. 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:05.920 Man. 0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:12.960 The the symbol for Christianity is a BDSM sex position 0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:20.440 getting nailed to a cross and whipped and fucked and 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:27.479 jizzed on. It's an idea. It's an idea. Hey guys, 0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.680 it's Lyle here. I'm about to do some ad reads, 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.560 but if you're a premium member of the podcast, you 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.560 will not hear them. Premium members, or gek Legends, as 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.920 I like to call them, get access to every episode 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.400 of this podcast ad free. They also get bonus episodes, 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:48.359 recordings for my live shows, members only streams, and they 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.640 support my ability to keep doing this show for a 0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.200 long time, do it in cooler, more interesting places, and 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.880 also eat food, which is important. If any of that 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.680 sounds cool to you, you can go to the Gecko 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.960 dot supercast dot com to become a gek Legend, or 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:08.839 find the link in the episode description. All right, let's 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:16.000 do some ads. Hello, what's up dude? 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:17.160 Hi? Who's this? 0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:19.760 This is the Gecko guy from the internet. 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.600 Oh my god, Lyle, what up? 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:22.839 Man? 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:23.600 What's up? 0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:24.239 Do with's your name? 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:26.080 My name is Devin. 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.160 How are you, Devin. I'm good. Have we ever spoken before? 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.239 We have? I got engaged at your Portland live show? 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:39.759 Oh fuck yeah, homie, what's dam Yeah dude, holy shit, 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:40.759 I remember that. 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:42.319 Yeah. 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.920 My fiance son and I are just playing Fortnite. I'll 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:46.720 put it on pause. 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:48.040 How are you doing? 0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:55.200 Doing fantastic? Thank you? Yeah? I doing good. 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.440 How are you tell me more about that? Now? I'm 0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:01.200 trying to remember. This is at Mississippis videos is in Portland? 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:07.920 Yeah. Yeah, So we ended up going to the Mississippi Studios. 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.960 It was funny because we actually had VIP tickets and 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.680 we had no idea where to go because we were 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:17.000 buying drinks, and like last second, I had it all 0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.279 planned out and I was like, I'm gonna text Lyle 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.719 and ask if I can go up on stage and 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:23.440 he texted me back and You're like what to do it? 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.120 And then like it all hit and it was super 0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.239 real and I was like, oh God. And then I 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:31.799 got up there and uh, you had a Jewish leather 0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:36.279 daddy that just converted to Judaism. And after the show 0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.360 he asked if we wanted to if he could marry 0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:44.759 us and officiate us. Wait really and yeah really yeah, 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:45.440 like right before. 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:50.000 No, I wouldn't I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have let 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:50.719 him do that either. 0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.680 I'll be real, he's actually invited. Man, he's a cool dude. 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.759 Wait really, Wait, that's so cool. By the way, I 0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.360 didn't say that to be mean to that guy. It 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:03.000 was just a just trying to do so for context 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:04.680 for them, for the context of people listen. I mean, 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.000 I guess I'm not going to add any for the 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:07.920 context what I'm about to say. But yeah, there was 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.719 this dude in like all leather like BDSM gear who 0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.480 came up on stage to talk about converting to Judaism, 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.719 which was the most random thing a guy dressed like 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:22.759 that could have possibly talked about. And he was one 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:24.480 of the people that came up on stage that night. 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.960 And then there was you and and your fiance and 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.200 so you just started hanging out with that guy after 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.080 the show, and now he's invited to your wedding. Uh. 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.120 Yeah, So we actually started talking on Instagram and he's 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.200 super cool and strangely he knows like a couple of 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:42.399 my friends. I live further south, like near Eugene, sin 0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:47.160 Lones in Oregon, and he knows quite a few people 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:49.279 that I know, and I'm like, oh wow, what a 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:49.879 small world. 0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:57.920 That's cool man, Oh goddamn yeah wow. So well, as 0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:02.680 I was curious about this because is your wife. Was 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.800 she a fan of the show or was she like, 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.839 why the fuck did you pick this gecko guy's live 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:09.839 show to do? To do this at? 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:14.680 So it's actually really funny. I used to work at 0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:19.200 office depot and one of my associates always had his 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.080 Spotify on and your podcast always popped up, and I 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.880 was like, who the hell is this guy? And finally, 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.440 like I quit the job and I reached out to 0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:29.759 him and I was like, Hey, there's this dude I'm 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.320 looking for like new podcasts and he stresses a gecko 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:33.840 and he's like therapy Gecko. 0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:34.959 I was like, cool. 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.239 So I started listening to you, and I was working nights, 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.880 and one day I had it open and she happened 0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:44.640 to listen to it too, like through my phone. Yeah, 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.160 and she was like, wow, he's really funny. And then 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.520 you started popping up on our algorithm and we just 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:52.400 kind of got hooked. 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:52.560 Man. 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:56.640 We're like you're super great, You're very help people. Yeah, 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.960 and like her mom listens now, and my mom was cool. 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.440 So so she's so she's your grandma. Listens that I 0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:09.200 all right, I'll say cunt less Nah, no she so 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:11.279 so all right, so she so she both you guys 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.960 are both into the pocket. All right. That's cool, man, 0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:17.400 that's cool. How's everything going is? How's how's being married? 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.040 Is it exactly the same as before? 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:21.040 No? 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:26.880 Actually it's pretty awesome. Like I had started a new 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.440 not really a new job, but like a new location, 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:32.200 and when I was introducing myself to the team, I 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.680 was like, hey, I'm married, instead of being like, yeah, 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.120 I got this girlfriend back home. It is what it is, 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.480 you know. It's so it kind of feels a little better, 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:45.719 you know, a little more air of relief, but like, yeah, 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:46.279 it's nice. 0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.160 So did the leather guy try to convert you to Judaism? 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:50.360 Like was he trying to get you to have a 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:51.040 Jewish wedding? 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:56.480 No? No, but I have been I've been dabbling my fee. 0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.960 I've been kind of looking at Judaism and I'm like, huh, yeah, 0:47:59.080 --> 0:47:59.560 it's kind of. 0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:03.000 Interesting, you know, Okay, what tell what a What's what's 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:03.960 catching your interest? 0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.000 Honestly, So, where I live there's a huge sense of 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:11.120 community and I'm like, huh, that's something that's really cool 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:16.439 compared to like all the different sects of like Christianity, 0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.680 you know, like just all these different runs of people 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.200 that are like I'm Mormon or I'm this, I'm that, 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.200 and it's like, no, we're just we're Jewish and we're 0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.400 hanging out. We're having really good times together and just 0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:30.719 keeping it real, and I'm like, huh, that's kind of 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:31.400 interesting to me. 0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:36.400 Yeah. I feel like growing up, I always felt like I, 0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.520 you know, like like Mormons and Christians, they were always 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:45.160 trying to like get folks, but Jews, we we're not 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.279 really out there. We're not knocking on doors, you know. 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.560 No, No, I grew up in a town full of 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.560 Jehovah witnesses and most of them are on our doorstep 0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:56.280 every weekend. 0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:56.919 Yeah. 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.440 That's uh. That that that's what. That's what in our 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:07.200 culture we would call a whole thing anyway. All right, So, oh, 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.960 you know what you texted me, Devin, and you this 0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.120 is why I called you. You texted me because you 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:17.680 said you wanted to talk about Christmas versus Honikkah movies. 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:19.080 What does that mean? 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.840 Yeah? Yeah, so I actually wanted to ask you what 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:27.880 you think is the worst Christmas movie or special versus 0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:33.479 the worst Honka Honkah movie flash special? And I can't 0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:34.600 really think of any. 0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:39.359 There's not that many that I was literally about to say. 0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:42.040 There's the rug Rats. I don't know what, dude, is 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:45.200 Jewish from the rug Rats that made that happen. But yeah, 0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:46.920 there's the rug Rats. Well, the rug Rats have a 0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:48.880 Honical one and they also the Ruggrets did all the 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:50.880 Jewish stuff because they got a Honica one and a 0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:51.560 Passover one. 0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.360 Yeah yeah one rocks. 0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:59.919 Yeah what else? Adam Sandler, I actually have never seen 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:01.839 that movie, but I remember wanting to watch it as 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:03.120 a kid and my mom wouldn't let me. 0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:07.279 We watched it last night with our son, he's nine. 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.960 I feel like it's okay, it's a great movie. 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:16.680 I don't know if I have a worst Christmas movie. 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:18.560 I have a best one. I have my favorite one. 0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:21.839 Let's hear it the Polar. 0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:28.759 Express of course, no way, yeah, dude, yeah, yeah, a lot. 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:30.600 Apparently my grandma's favorite movie. 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:31.960 That's your favorite movie. 0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.959 For Christmas movie? That's that's our favorite Christmas movie together. 0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:35.879 We watch it every year. 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.680 To you, why don't we get married? 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:39.959 Then, dude? 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:44.400 What up stood, we did do this? Do it? I like? 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:46.680 You know, The Polar Express is a great movie because 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:53.239 it really is like it's one night, it's uh, you know, 0:50:53.360 --> 0:51:01.000 this beautiful cozy town. There's like horror elements. The girl 0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:04.640 doesn't have her ticket, so the conductor takes her out 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.520 to murder her. But you find out he doesn't murder her. 0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:09.720 He just gives her a hot chocolate. The hot chocolate 0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:14.440 in the movie. It looks so good. What else I mean, 0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:17.000 it's a beautiful everyone in the movie. The movie just 0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:18.879 makes you want to cry the whole time because it's 0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:22.399 just it's like a nice old It's just a bunch 0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:25.880 of nice old guys, the conductor and. 0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:31.200 The you know, you have all those really nice people 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.520 just together on one train, and it's like, man, that's 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:34.399 magic right there. 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:38.160 Of all the people I would be most disappointed to 0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.759 find out as a pedophile, it would definitely be the 0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:42.160 conductor of the Polar Express. 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:45.120 What about the kid with the glasses, the we're a 0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:47.040 little nazy kid. What if he grew up in was 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:49.160 a pedophile? Pretty gross. 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.640 Him. I don't know. I don't care about him and 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:54.879 his fictional life at all. 0:51:56.440 --> 0:52:00.520 Hey man, I also had another question. Yeah, because I'm 0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:02.880 looking at something right now. What do you think about 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.719 Arnold Schwarzenegger's Turbo Man. I don't know what that is, 0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:11.880 like jingle all the way, I don't know what that is. Really. 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:17.239 So it's a movie about Arnold Schwartzenegger dressing up as 0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:20.920 like a Power Rangers superhero guy and saving his kid 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.400 at a parade. It's got Simbat in it. He's the 0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:25.480 Postman that really wants to blow people up. 0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:30.640 Yeah, I think this movie. I think I would probably 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:36.280 rather watch a YouTube video about seven things you missed 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:38.719 in the Kingdom Hearts three trailer then watch that. 0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:41.879 I mean, that's fair. 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:46.160 I could see what's the best Hanika movie. There's no Honka. 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:48.839 There's not a big market for Hanika movies. I don't 0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:53.279 think that it's why not, Well, because there's like two 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:54.320 Jewish people. 0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:59.520 That's fair. Well, I mean they made movies about like. 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:10.399 Uh, I mean, like hmmm, I'm not sure. I'm trying 0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:12.080 to think of like any good Hanka movies. 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:14.640 I know there's like a few specials, but. 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:17.759 I don't even think there's a few. I can't I 0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:20.080 can only name we so far, we've only named two 0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:22.239 Hanka media that's true. 0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:27.759 Hmmm, we should make a push for that. Do you 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:28.839 want to make a Honka movie? 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:30.719 Eh? That's the whole thing. 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:33.279 Well, it is the whole thing. 0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:35.000 What else you could teach me? 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:35.640 Abu hankah? 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:39.200 You sound like you know than I do. 0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:43.879 Man, Nah, dude, I'm only learning what I know from 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:44.880 a dude up in Portland. 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:49.719 It wears leather, Yeah, that guy definitely knows. I think 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:53.279 that guy probably has a crazy hankah that that leather guy. 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:55.920 He probably lights all the candles of of the Menora 0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:58.360 and then uses it to burn the fuck out of 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:02.760 his back, and like a crazy he probably drips Minora 0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:04.920 candlewax in his asshole. 0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:07.000 Is that a thing? 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.680 Yeah? Probably, I know that. 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:12.560 Like Grinch porn is a thing. 0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:14.360 What's grinch porn? 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:14.640 Oh? 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:17.040 Like Rule thirty four? Like porn of the grend No? 0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:18.120 Like no. 0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:21.360 So my fiance used to work at the adult shop 0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:25.560 and they sell Grinch costumes, like the green Grinch guy, 0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.160 and people dress up as the green sch and do 0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:28.680 that stuff. 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:33.560 Well, I guess that's I guess that's not any weirder 0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:35.320 than having sex in a gecko costume. 0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.759 That's fair. How many times have you done it? In 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:39.720 the gecko costume. 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:40.799 What's your name again? 0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:42.720 You don't have to tell me. My name is Devon, 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:44.520 but you don't have to tell me Devin. 0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:47.600 Whose kid is the kid? Is it a kid that 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:50.000 you guys had together, or is it like a step child? 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:54.440 Uh? He is my step son? Oh? 0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:55.160 Cool man? 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:56.640 What? Uh? Yeah? 0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.279 How's so is it? Is it? Is he like full 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.000 time with you guys? Or is he does he see 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.160 ye like his his his his other dad? Or is 0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:07.560 it just you two raising him together? 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:10.160 Just us? Which is pretty cool? 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:11.399 It's pretty cool. 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:18.279 The yeah, yeah, uh, he definitely full time. Uh, he's 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:23.920 full time here and so likes all the thing stuff 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:24.200 we do. 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.640 And yeah, do you guys have a Christmas tree yet? 0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:31.800 We do? I call, I can send you a picture 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:32.000 of it. 0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:34.040 What's your favorite ornament on the tree? 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:42.200 Hm hmm right now, so we had this, Like I'm 0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:44.800 looking at one of our tiny trees. We have a 0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:48.560 rainbow one. It's got a little like star on top, 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:50.600 but on top of the start it's got a wizard 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:54.279 hat and a beard. That one's probably my favorite right now. 0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:59.480 That's pretty cool. Do you do you guys? 0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:00.440 Hm? 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.600 Hm, Bro, that's so cool that you made friends with 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:05.600 that with that leather guy and that he's gonna be 0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:08.080 at your wedding. I'm stuckd about that. Yeah, I love 0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:09.759 I love that kind of show. I love that kind 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:14.960 of show. I'm like, dude, I actually I met, I've 0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:21.320 like met. I did a show in Japan and I 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:28.319 met this couple a few shows later. I forget which 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:30.800 country I was in, but there was a couple. It 0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:33.040 was like, these two people who came to my Japan 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:36.560 show together came to one of my shows in this 0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:39.160 other country and I was like, oh shit, I remember 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:40.800 you guys, and they were like, yeah, we we we 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:44.400 we're together now. We met at your show. And I 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.520 think that's happened a few times where people like we'll 0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:49.279 meet at the show and like become friends and you know, 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:50.239 do all this shit. 0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:50.840 So you know that. 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.360 I think that's hell of cool. So I'm glad that 0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.839 you're friends with Does he have a name? I keep 0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.040 calling him Jewish leather guy. I feel like I should 0:56:58.080 --> 0:56:58.919 call him his name. 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:02.880 I don't remember. I just looked at his picture on Instagram. 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:04.600 I'm like, yeah, I know you we. 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:09.040 Did on Instagram. Does he have a bunch of pictures 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:12.160 of him? And like leather. Does he have a picture 0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:13.760 of himself with a leather KIPA? 0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:19.880 I believe so. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, yes, 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:22.240 I think it was posted a couple of days ago. 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:24.480 I'll have to look again. It's been a minute. 0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:25.720 That's really fun. 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:30.120 We were shopping a couple like a few weeks after 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:33.560 your show, and someone that we had also met in 0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.360 line to talk to you with worked at a local 0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.200 store and they were like, Hey, I know you, and 0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:41.600 I'm like, excuse you? Who are you? Nick? 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:43.480 You're a therapy get go. 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:48.520 We talked in line. I was like what what and 0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:52.280 she's like, yeah, man, you don't remember me? Like, I'm sorry, 0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.520 I don't really don't. I wanted to do a shout out. 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.520 If she's listening her and her fiance or husband or 0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:03.200 boyfriend or whoever, I'm really sorry that I forgot who 0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:04.440 you were, all right. 0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:09.200 I forget people all the time. And uh, you know 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:15.320 it's fine. People get upset and then you just you know, 0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:16.840 you live your life. You go to a sandwich. 0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:21.440 Hey, I had a question also another one. I'm sorry, 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.560 what's up? How do you deal with like all these 0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:26.920 people that are just so upset. 0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:30.080 All the time, Like upset at me. 0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:34.440 No, No, just like upset in general. Like sometimes on 0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:36.480 your show you have a lot of happy people and 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:38.120 you get like a lot of sad people that are 0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:41.600 just like existential and really rough, and I'm like, hey man, 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.720 why you know, like, let's just chill, bro I don't know. 0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:49.520 I've been thinking about that a lot lately because we've 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:54.720 had a lot of like crazy calls like that, and dude, 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:58.200 I don't know. I think I just like, at this point, 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:02.080 I feel like I'm showing up to you know this, 0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:05.040 like you know, I'm showing up to work. I'm like 0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:08.240 doing the thing. I'm this is, this is what I do. 0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:13.400 This is the show. And sometimes it's it's a little bit, uh, 0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:20.720 you know, more dense than others. And you know, at 0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.000 the end of the day, I think that having these 0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:30.600 these dense conversations and having like a regular window into 0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:36.840 you know, that kind of stuff, and and and a 0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:40.160 window into the way that people are feeling, even if 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:43.960 those feelings are negative, I think that that's a helpful 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:46.000 thing for me. I hope it's a helpful thing for 0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:49.680 the people that are listening. And so even on the 0:59:49.800 --> 0:59:51.280 days where I'm just like fuck, I don't know if 0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:55.160 I can do this ship ah, you know, we just 0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:57.760 we do it and uh we sell T shirts. 0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:04.160 Hey, man, pretty cool, that's pretty noble, honestly, Like I 1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:07.960 sell coffee all day and my highlights are like besides 1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:10.680 coming home, just telling people like I hope this makes 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:13.760 you feel better today, whereas like you're able to actually 1:00:13.800 --> 1:00:17.600 give them full on advice and the chat is awesome 1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:21.760 all the time. But thank you as well. I think 1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:24.120 that's cool. Thank you guys do a really cool thing 1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:26.440 and I'm glad to be a part of that community. 1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:29.600 So, Devin, man, is there anything else you want to 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:31.280 say to the people of the computer before we go? 1:00:33.000 --> 1:00:36.600 You know, I do stop making your drink order so complicated. 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:41.480 We don't like it, all right, everyone. 1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:45.080 I just like a little bit of almond milk. That's it. 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:46.240 I just like almond milk. 1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:48.880 Just a quarter spoon of almond milk. 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:52.680 Upon Hey, thank you for the kind words, Devin. It 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:55.920 means a lot. And uh, mazle tove to you and 1:00:56.320 --> 1:00:57.680 your family. Take care of man. 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.320 Hey, happy Hanukah and Mary Christians. 1:01:01.360 --> 1:01:07.040 Take care dude. I could do a we could do 1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:08.840 a Christmas I mean a Hanka movie. We could do 1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:11.560 a Hanka movie. I could do the How the Gex 1:01:11.680 --> 1:01:12.560 Stole Honakah. 1:01:13.160 --> 1:01:13.600 I like that. 1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:20.240 It's just me shoving candles up my ass. Hello, folks, 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:23.760 it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode. But 1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:29.000 get this, I'm releasing a bonus episode this week. That's right, 1:01:29.160 --> 1:01:33.440 an entire extra hour of the podcast that you can 1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:37.400 listen to by becoming a premium member of Therapy Gecko 1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:42.600 over at Therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. Supercast subscribers 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:45.880 get access to bonus episodes. 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In this episode, 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:04.360 you texted me and you said, I'd like to talk 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:07.960 about how I came for the first time the day 1:02:08.040 --> 1:02:09.480 that my grandfather died. 1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:12.000 Yeah, a couple of weeks ago. 1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:16.320 My uh, honestly, my grandpa like died, you know, you know, 1:02:16.480 --> 1:02:17.240 whatever happens. 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:21.280 Wait, hold on, you're this happened a couple of weeks ago. 1:02:22.360 --> 1:02:26.120 Yeah, this Uh, he died on October twenty eighth. 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:28.560 You came for the first time a couple of weeks ago. 1:02:29.080 --> 1:02:30.920 Listen, listen, listen. There's some back story to this. 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:32.240 Okay, there's backstory to this. 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:34.120 All right, I'm listening. I'm listening. 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