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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up man?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What's your name? What's going on with you today? What

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about?

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Speaker 3: Well, so I had a question. Oh god, this is

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Speaker 3: gonna sound so bad. So, in an unnamed location, I

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Speaker 3: may have masturbated on a helicopter very near several guys.

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Speaker 3: But they didn't see it and they didn't know what happened.

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Speaker 3: So is it gay?

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Speaker 1: What was the context of being in the helicopter in

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Speaker 1: the first place?

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Speaker 3: War?

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Speaker 1: You were fighting in a war, yes, riding in a helicopter. Correct,

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Speaker 1: masturbating in the helicopter briefly, Yeah, that's a little guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But they didn't know, and like it wasn't about them.

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Speaker 3: It was just kind of this primal urge. You know,

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Speaker 3: how are you?

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Speaker 1: How are you able to masturbate in a helicopter? A

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Speaker 1: helicopter is like such a compact space. And also, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: hell were you are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Were you a soldier?

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Speaker 3: I know, yes, military, not soldier.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you were? You were in so you you were

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Speaker 1: like you're wearing all this like fucking combat gear. You've

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Speaker 1: an AK forty seven strapped to your back, and you

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Speaker 1: somehow find a way to pull your dick out and masturbate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean there's several layers, and you know,

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Speaker 3: granted not everybody could make that happen. It does take

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Speaker 3: some skill. But I mean, does that make it less

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Speaker 3: gay because it takes more skill?

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Speaker 1: Are you still in the army?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 3: It just didn't feel right, you know, m hm.

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Speaker 1: How long were you in the army for.

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Speaker 3: Twelve years?

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Speaker 1: What year out of the twelve years was the year

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Speaker 1: that you masturbated in the helicopter?

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Speaker 3: I pleaded the sieth.

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Speaker 1: Where did you ejaculate? Did you ejaculate?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course? I mean what's the point if you don't.

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Speaker 1: Where did you ejaculate?

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Speaker 3: Just out the window? I mean probably stuck to the

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Speaker 3: side of the thing because we're flying.

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Speaker 1: You're okay there, dude, there there's no way in hell

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Speaker 1: that you ejaculated out the window of a helicopter with

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Speaker 1: a filled people without anybody knowing. There's just no way

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Speaker 1: that you did that.

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Speaker 3: Well, so it's going to be hard to explain. But

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Speaker 3: when you're wearing night vision goggles, it throws your depth

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Speaker 3: perception way off, so you can't see anything within ten

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Speaker 3: feet of view and your field of view is very restricted.

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Speaker 3: You can only see far out, so nobody's looking inside.

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Speaker 1: So you see everybody wearing night vision goggles and you go, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're wearing them too, So I mean, could you even

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Speaker 1: see your penis?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: No? God, no, you don't need to see your dick

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Speaker 3: to masturbate.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy that our tax dollars go to this.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it wasn't really you shouldn't think of

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Speaker 3: it like the tax dollars are paying for masturbation. It

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Speaker 3: was just kind of a symptom of the environment.

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Speaker 1: How so.

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Speaker 3: Hard to explain unless you've been there. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: I bet somebody in chat has experienced a combat boner.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that war makes you horny.

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Speaker 3: No, not quite, not in that sense. You can get

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Speaker 3: a physical reaction. You ever heard of a NARB no

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Speaker 3: apparent reason bone?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I know what that is.

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Speaker 3: You could have something similar to that, but like think

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Speaker 3: of being stimulated to the max. But then also you

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Speaker 3: have like the vibrations of the helicopter. I don't know, so.

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Speaker 1: It was the helicopter the major horny.

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well I'm glad you're not in the military anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: What do you do now?

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Speaker 3: What are this little of that you.

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Speaker 1: Know that sounds like you do a whole lot more

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Speaker 1: of jacking off a lot.

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Speaker 3: Ghek, I'm masturbate a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you do or anything? Are you a real person?

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Speaker 1: Are you fucking with me?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I actually I swear true story.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell me more about combat boners. What why do

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Speaker 1: you think they occur?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I like a few people that I

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Speaker 3: Not quite in that manner looking back, not the best call,

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Speaker 3: But I just think there's something to do with really

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Speaker 3: tapping into that primal caveman that's inside of all of us.

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Speaker 3: And if you let that guy really get a hold

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Speaker 3: there's no cave woman around. I'll bring you back to

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Speaker 3: your cave. You're surrounding by guys for a year.

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Speaker 1: There should be some kind of call of duty kill

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Speaker 1: streak award that just makes the opposing team I'll get

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Speaker 1: a boner, maybe.

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Speaker 3: Like a tactical boner nuke.

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Speaker 1: Tactical boner nuke. Do you have a Do you tell

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Speaker 1: me about your life?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: What do you do? And don't say a little bit

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to not really docks myself here, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But you've already docked yourself. You're the guy who masturbated

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Speaker 1: in a helicopter. That's you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: And nobody cares about your first and last name. They

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Speaker 1: already know much deeper information about you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a helicopterm masturbator. Well, I work at a

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Speaker 3: small shop in a pretty rural area and live a

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Speaker 3: very slow life.

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, is that enjoyable for you?

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Speaker 3: No? I fucking hate it.

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Speaker 1: Why do you hate it?

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Speaker 3: Trying to figure that out? Gick? Not a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of happiness in life ever since that year?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna guess it was year twelve.

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Speaker 3: No, it was. I think it would have been ten.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So when you say not a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: happiness since that year, you mean the year that you

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Speaker 1: masturbated in the helicopter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just the whole year surrounding that incident.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, why is that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know nothing. Uh. I think that's kind of

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Speaker 3: the side effect of it, is you for this year.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you just use up so much of

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Speaker 3: your body's adrenaline. You just this roller coaster of emotions.

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Speaker 3: You're you're working days straight, you get a few hour nap,

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Speaker 3: You can never really think of anything. And then you

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Speaker 3: get home. All in the span of like a week,

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Speaker 3: you go from that life to a grinding halt and

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Speaker 1: So you missed the excitement of warfare.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't miss war. It's a double edged

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Speaker 3: sword man, and you know, it's a whole pointless war anyway.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get into that side of things there.

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Speaker 1: But what war? What war?

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 1: What are we are?

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 1: Were you in Irq?

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Speaker 3: One of the countries that we were in the past

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Speaker 3: twenty years?

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Speaker 1: Damn dude, that's uh, that's that's that's the that's the

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Speaker 1: US engaging in biological warfare right there, just coming on

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Speaker 3: Do you think they like, do you think they trained

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Speaker 3: me to do that? And I didn't even know it.

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a family? Do you have friends?

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Speaker 3: Sons? No family?

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Speaker 1: Okay? What do you think would make your life more exciting.

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Speaker 3: Man, trying to figure that out too.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been out of the military for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years now, and the whole time you've

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Speaker 3: For the most part. Yeah, yeah, I try to find

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Speaker 3: work after the military is the hardest part.

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Speaker 1: Did they give you any money? How do they how

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Speaker 1: don't know any of the ship. Are we at a

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Speaker 3: No? No, you have to you have to do a

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Speaker 3: full Yes, they found out what they did in the helicopter,

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Speaker 3: I mean for sure, but you have to do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you did twelve you have to do a

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Speaker 3: Years, you got to do twenty plus.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do twenty plus. Yeah, god damn. So all right,

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Speaker 1: so you just left and they were like, all right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. I mean what you got to turn

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Speaker 3: you can you can you know, grow facial hair, smoke

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Speaker 1: That's not so bad. You can do that. Without going

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Speaker 1: into the military. I know, I know firsthand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody really told me that.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, So in these past two years, have you

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Speaker 1: done anything to make an attempt to spice up your

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Speaker 3: Hmm, not really. I think I was just trying to

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Speaker 3: establish my new life, you know, get a house, get

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to not kill myself. M hm.

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Speaker 3: So that occupied you. Just it's hard to explain it.

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Speaker 3: Just I felt so emotionally neutral that even even if

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Speaker 1: Know, you know, you know, I feel like the old

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Speaker 1: guy from the six Flags commercials when he's not at

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Speaker 1: six Flags, is also actively trying every day not to

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Speaker 1: kill himself.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. Maybe I should dance like him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, So you come home after a twelve year tour

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Speaker 1: of around the country and you're just it's a total

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Speaker 1: different environment. You're not around people every single day like

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Speaker 1: you were. Uh, you're not as you say, go go

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Speaker 1: go and having your you know, your your brain and

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Speaker 1: your body are far more idle than they were before,

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Speaker 1: and it's driving It drove you fucking crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it about sums it up.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh. So are you still in and it's okay

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Speaker 1: if you are. Are you still in this like I'm

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Speaker 1: trying every day just to just to get through the

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Speaker 3: No, uh that that got better a bit maybe six

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Speaker 3: months ago. Quit drinking, quit smoking, quit doing a lot

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Speaker 3: of stuff, just trying to be healthier and just I mean,

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Speaker 3: it just takes time. You know, there's there's there's nothing

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Speaker 3: in a month. Everything takes time.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well, I feel like I mean, the go

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Speaker 1: You just don't want to be a slave to here

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Speaker 3: I thought about that. But what happens if the furnace

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is true. It is true. We live in

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Speaker 3: Where am I eating?

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Speaker 1: Uh? The the bare minimum that you need that you'd

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Have to imagine if you're on the road,

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Speaker 3: I've never really lived down the road, you know, but

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Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know. I'm playing Dave Ramsey here because

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so you so you don't you don't

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Speaker 1: you well, you said, I blew my money. I thought

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Speaker 3: Some fun trips in there.

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Speaker 1: But have you ever spoke to a real therapist? Do

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 1: So you went through the therapy. Ringer tried, all right,

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Speaker 1: you're doing well. Sounds like you're doing better. If you

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing okay. I just don't want to

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Speaker 1: work a job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the that's the default of all people pretty much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, m.

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Speaker 1: Well, what else?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: What else while I have you on the phone.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really plan past the jerking off in a helicopter.

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Speaker 3: I thought I thought that was kind of going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, jerking off in the helicopter. It's pretty funny, right,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty funny, but it's I don't know if we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty pretty small amount of time

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Still I don't we you've talked about all these things,

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Speaker 1: You know, there's no resolution of any kind of anything at.

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Speaker 3: All, not not today. But who's to say what tomorrow brings.

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Speaker 1: That's a resolution. Yeah, that's missing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll leave you with I'm not planning to leave

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, great, great, that's I would say. That's a

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Speaker 1: good resolution. Yeah, what's your name again?

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that again?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, how many times did you tell me

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Speaker 1: over the course of the cast I think.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe once at the beginning, but uh, you

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Speaker 3: know whatever, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Call you Bruce because there's because I could just have

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Speaker 1: would just you could just all be anonymous. That would

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Speaker 1: be easier for everyone. Bruce, thank you for your service.

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Speaker 3: You know, Gek, I appreciate you for your service.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna make some I was gonna make some

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Speaker 3: Couldn't come up with a catchy punchline for the inner

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Speaker 1: Now you're a cool guy, Bruce. I appreciate you calling.

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Speaker 1: I hope you find something to do with your life

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Speaker 1: that makes you happy. I don't believe that there's no

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Speaker 1: I think if you just keep tinkering around, hopefully something

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get there, all right. I have a feeling

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Speaker 3: I'll probably find it outside of the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, Man, check out. I'm always

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Speaker 1: on Airbnb looking at like a Bali, Like, how cheap

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Speaker 1: could I live in Bali or any of these other places?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty incredible. I mean you have places like

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Speaker 1: Well, Bruce, go jack off in your own bed. You

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Speaker 1: deserve it. I will get I will take care, love you,

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Speaker 1: love you too. This is why I do the podcast, man,

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Speaker 1: You get to talk to all kinds of people about

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Speaker 2: Who is this?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 2: This is Paul.

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Speaker 1: Paul. What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Many's just sitting here. I was watching dragon ball D

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Speaker 5: play stream came on.

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Speaker 1: You know, killing you were watching dragon ball Z. What

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Speaker 1: episode of dragon ball Z?

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Speaker 5: Like three episodes from the end of the Freezer saga.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know that it's like the most I

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Speaker 1: know it's like the most popular thing ever, But I've

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Speaker 5: Really, it's almost hard to believe. Like, even if you

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Speaker 1: A kid, it's the episode or two well, I kind

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Speaker 1: of looked like a fat version of that one green guy.

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Speaker 1: What's his name?

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Speaker 5: Oh, there's a few of those Pickolo, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: play yeah.

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Speaker 1: I guess I look like I look like a combination

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Speaker 1: of him and Boo.

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Speaker 5: You have what a badass version?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: So what did you say your name was? Again?

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Speaker 3: Paul?

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Speaker 2: Paul?

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Speaker 1: Paul? Would you want to talk about today?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 5: I guess the biggest thing that I wanted to talk about,

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Speaker 5: just because I thought it was more interesting than my

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Speaker 5: other day to day problems, was that, in a I

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Speaker 5: kind of got myself into a situation where I'm part

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Speaker 5: of like living a let's praise like a double life here.

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Speaker 5: So I grew up conservative Christian, and most of my

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Speaker 3: The last.

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Speaker 5: Year or so been in the BDSM community where I live.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, I don't know if you mentioned this already,

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Speaker 1: but you said that you are a trucker in Alaska. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are part of a BDSM community in Alaska, I am, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's too cold for BDSM over there, it is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I'm I'm currently in Washington for the winter

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Speaker 1: So I mean, what do you so there are clubs

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00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: in a lab. There's like dungeons in Alaska where people

453
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: go to tie each other up and fuck each other.

454
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. It's less of the big I think.

455
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 5: I haven't been to any, but I think in bigger

456
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 5: cities they just have open clubs all the time where

457
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 5: you can just kind of go in and do the

458
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 5: BDSM stuff. But here it's more of a public normal

459
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 5: meetings just to meet and greet, and then people have

460
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 5: private parties and stuff. Once you're at the point where

461
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: you're trustworthy and everything and you find somebody you want

462
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: to play with.

463
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 3: So you are.

464
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: Do you still identify as a conservative Christian?

465
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

466
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: Interesting?

467
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: Do do?

468
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: Does conservative Christian values and BDSM ship do that? Do

469
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: they conflict?

470
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

471
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 5: They are pretty much on the opposite end of the

472
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 5: spectrum for the most part. But I'm kind of a

473
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: I can see both points of view, So depending on

474
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 5: which group of people I'm with at any given time,

475
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 5: I just kind of find myself agree with whatever.

476
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's say you're with I would love to

477
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: hear your perspective on BDSM sex from as a as

478
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: a conservative Christian.

479
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I like that you can just kind of relax. H.

480
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: So I am more often than not identify as a submissive.

481
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 5: So that's kind of nice to let somebody else take control,

482
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 5: I would say. And it's less there's not actually that

483
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: much sex in the play I was doing. It's more

484
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 5: like you know, beatings and sign people up and stuff

485
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: like that.

486
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Do you think that God doesn't want you to tie

487
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: people up and spank them on the ass?

488
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 5: And yeah, I would say that to a point. Anyways,

489
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 5: I think the biggest conflict is not so much the

490
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 5: actual well, it's kind of the actual act now I

491
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 5: think about it.

492
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: Why do you think God doesn't like that? What is

493
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: it about it that bothers him?

494
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 5: I think that it's a gateway to more hedonistic behavior

495
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 5: your day to day life, which, in my opinion, you know,

496
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 5: it's good in doses, but I think it leads to

497
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 5: a mindset where you're prioritizing your personal physical pleasures over

498
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 5: other more important things in your life, to the point where,

499
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 5: if where it becomes almost an addiction of like, I

500
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: have to see feeling good all the time or I

501
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 5: can't function.

502
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you neglect important things in your

503
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: life to feel good?

504
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: Yeah? I try not to do that. All the time.

505
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: But that's definitely something I struggle with.

506
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: What's something recently that you feel like you neglected to

507
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: get whipped.

508
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 5: While putting my one group of friends on hold thing

509
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 5: because you know, the two don't really mesh. So I

510
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 5: kind of distanced myself from the.

511
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: People I.

512
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 5: Love and care about a lot to do that.

513
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: M hm.

514
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: And I get another group of people tell me about

515
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: in both groups.

516
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 5: Uh so the older friends there and it's not like

517
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 5: a group of like super hardcore Christians were like, oh,

518
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 5: you know, we all we we hate the other group,

519
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 5: but just more of a core value type of thing.

520
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: Most of them don't actually go to a church that

521
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 5: kind of like me where they grew up Christian and

522
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 5: now they're just conservatives other than one and that I

523
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 5: have is basically the perfect Christian in my opinion.

524
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: What makes him the perfect Christian.

525
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: He just has the.

526
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 5: Ability to get along with people even if he doesn't

527
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: agree with what they stand for. And he just has

528
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: an amazing way of oh it's irme to describe, like

529
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 5: he'll just put himself or put others before himself in

530
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 5: all situations. But he's able to maintain a balance of

531
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: like not just being a pushover at the same time,

532
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: which is something I would like to be.

533
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: Able to do.

534
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 5: But I kind of go one way or thegether I

535
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: moved here doing whatever anybody says, or I'm getting to

536
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: an unhealthy mindset where I just get tired of being

537
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 5: pushed around, and then I don't look out for anybody

538
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: except myself, and then I kind of go back and

539
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 5: forth between those two mindsets.

540
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: It's very interesting because nothing of what you've told me

541
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: so far has really been anything about God. It's just

542
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: about like personal human values.

543
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm not a hard

544
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 5: practicing Christian, I would say, or a hardcore Christian. I

545
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 5: go to church occasionally, but it's I don't know, it's

546
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 5: more about the community of people that I'm around.

547
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: Now, do your conservative Christian friends know about your BDSM life?

548
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: Some of them do you? Okay, why do you feel

549
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: like there's a conflict.

550
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 5: Well, the main conflict actually comes from the other end

551
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 5: of things with the BDSM community because I'm not out

552
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 5: as conservative. Because you know the kind of conflict being

553
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 5: then I don't judge people for what they do. I

554
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: just vote differently than them. But over there, at least

555
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 5: in our community, any mention of uh, computer Christian or

556
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 5: anything like that.

557
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: They don't like it at all.

558
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: They kind of gang up on people. You don't want,

559
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: you don't want where everybody.

560
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want your BDSM friends to know that

561
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: that you voted for Trump?

562
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

563
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: Well, huh, you're you're You're a peculiar little cookie.

564
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

565
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: I've been told that a few times.

566
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: So I mean, like, m tell me, okay, so I

567
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: feel like I learned a little bit about your Christian friends.

568
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: Tell me more about your BDSM friends.

569
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 5: So now XP But until recently, my girlfriend was actually

570
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 5: one of the community leaders who hosts parties and events

571
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: and meet and greets and stuff like that.

572
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: What happens.

573
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: We just had.

574
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: Different outlooks on what the future can bring. I guess

575
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: we started as a It was a polyamorous relationship, so

576
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: she already had a long term partner, and going into it,

577
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: I didn't know if I'd like it or not doing

578
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: the polyamory thing. Then it turned out that I didn't

579
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 5: like it, so that was the main reason. But when

580
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 5: we started, she and her long term partner were just partners,

581
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, one day she just

582
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: dropped the ball that they were getting married, which didn't

583
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: really sit well with me, so I kind of broke off.

584
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: What is it that draws you to the sort of

585
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: alternative lifestyle polyamory BDSM and community.

586
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 5: That's fun and everybody you know, there's a lot of

587
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 5: naked people, so that's always enjoyable, you know what.

588
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't have to really be deeper than that.

589
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's you know, that's that's the main part of it, okay.

590
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: And what draws you to, uh, Donald Trump and the

591
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: conservative stuff?

592
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 5: I think because being having more conservative values is what

593
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 5: I want to focus on in my day to day

594
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: life and just the direction that I think personally that

595
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 5: you know, I don't have all the answers, but the

596
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 5: direction I think personally that the values we should be

597
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 5: focusing on in the direction the country should go. So

598
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 5: I guess I kind of view that as like my

599
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 5: you know, my blue collar day to day mindset, and

600
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 5: then the BDSM stuff is like on the weekends to

601
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 5: the side.

602
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: Now, what, uh, what do you what do you consider

603
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: to be well, how would you define those values? Those

604
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: those uh values that you would like to see more of?

605
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 5: Just more of a Oh no, I had all the

606
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 5: answers to that until you've asked me that question, and

607
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: now that I have to think about it, uh, I

608
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 5: guess a lot some of it is Like financially, Uh

609
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 5: I think the conservative lifestyle goes is makes more sense.

610
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: To me.

611
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: Financially.

612
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, just.

613
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Do you have?

614
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: Do you do you?

615
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: It's okay if you don't have an answer to this question, but.

616
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 5: Okay, well can I can I say?

617
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: Can I say something? Yeah, if you don't have an

618
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: answer to this question, like maybe like I mean, I

619
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, I mean what what?

620
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: What is?

621
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: What is all of this stuff even coming from?

622
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: Is?

623
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: It's just like an identity that you've built that you

624
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: haven't really taken a second to to reconsider or or

625
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: think more deeply about.

626
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that at least part of it,

627
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 5: because you know, that's how I grew up. So it's

628
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: a core part of my identity.

629
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Okay, this core part of your identity. This is a

630
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: genuine question. I'm not trying to look. Look, look, I'm

631
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: not here to fucking what you know, tell anybody to

632
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: do anything, but this core part of your identity does

633
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: does it continue to serve you well in your life?

634
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you need to have the answer to

635
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: that question immediately, but it's something to think about.

636
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that it does in terms of.

637
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: It drives me.

638
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 5: It's one of the things that motivates me and drives

639
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: me to keep going forward in the way that I

640
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: want to live my life, in terms of looking to

641
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: the future, in terms of where I want to be

642
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 5: in like five or ten years career wise, and how

643
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: I want to go about starting a family one day.

644
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 3: I suppose.

645
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a funny thing because you're just

646
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: talking about self improvement. You're just talking You're just talking

647
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: about personal values. You're not even really talking about God

648
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: or about politics or any of this stuff. You're really

649
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: just talking about, like I said, personal values and self improvement.

650
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, So why do you Because I don't want to

651
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 5: to anybody off that's the scene. I don't know. I

652
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 5: guess I don't want to talk about it because a

653
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 5: lot of the time when I start talking about it,

654
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: I get called a big eight or whatever mm hm,

655
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: which I don't think you do, but you'll do. But uh,

656
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 5: I guess that's part of my hesitation why I'm not

657
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 5: really used to talking about it.

658
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: So I so, Okay. So then when I asked you

659
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: these questions before, were you not answering it because you

660
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: were afraid to talk about it or because you genuinely

661
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: didn't have an answer?

662
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 5: A little bit of both, a little bit of not

663
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 5: want I talk about, a little bit of brain fare.

664
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Well again, I'll leave it at the question of

665
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: whether or not these things continue to serve you and

666
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: I only you can really answer that question, but it's

667
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: worth thinking about, especially if you're entering all these different

668
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: communities and and and universes and trying to find a

669
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: universe that makes you feel happy to to exist in.

670
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying A little bit, Yeah, did

671
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: you storm the Capitol January sixth?

672
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: No? I did not.

673
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Paul. Well let's see, Paul, is there anything else

674
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: I should know about you or anything else you want

675
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: to talk about in this scenario, in this in this

676
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: in this conversation.

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Speaker 5: No, I guess not just the yeah yeah, A great show, Paul.

678
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Paul, I want you to you know what, Paul, I

679
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: I I want to challenge you. I actually think that

680
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: you should start the first Christian BDSM club. I really do,

681
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: I really, I really want to challenge you to think

682
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: deeply about whether or not your values truly are as

683
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: in conflict with one another as you think they are.

684
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: Because look, if you found out that there was a

685
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: Christian BDSM club, I mean, you'd be the first one

686
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: in line in the morning. So there's others like you

687
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: out there, So throw throw it out there. You know,

688
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: you could be on the cusp of something something beautiful.

689
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: Who knows it's been great? You know, I mean just imagine.

690
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, by the way, nothing kinkier

691
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: than getting nailed to a cross, that is true. You

692
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: could say Jesus was the first. That could be cool.

693
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: You could have a like a Jesus nailed to the

694
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: cross with if the gimp mask on and you're whipping him,

695
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: do you should do? All right? If you don't do this,

696
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, so I'm I look forward.

697
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 5: Well when you do that, I'll be the first one

698
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: on the door.

699
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: Uh, Paul's anything else you gonna say to the people

700
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: of the computer.

701
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: Before we go?

702
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 5: Nope, other than just thanks for having me. If nothing else,

703
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 5: is felt good to talk about it to somebody. You know,

704
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 5: it's not really the problem I can talk about out

705
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 5: loud to most people.

706
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: I take careful, I'll have a going you see your

707
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: thinks Wow, it's perfect.

708
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: Man.

709
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: The the symbol for Christianity is a BDSM sex position

710
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: getting nailed to a cross and whipped and fucked and

711
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 1: jizzed on. It's an idea. It's an idea. Hey guys,

712
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: it's Lyle here. I'm about to do some ad reads,

713
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: but if you're a premium member of the podcast, you

714
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: will not hear them. Premium members, or gek Legends, as

715
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: I like to call them, get access to every episode

716
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: of this podcast ad free. They also get bonus episodes,

717
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: recordings for my live shows, members only streams, and they

718
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: support my ability to keep doing this show for a

719
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: long time, do it in cooler, more interesting places, and

720
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: also eat food, which is important. If any of that

721
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: sounds cool to you, you can go to the Gecko

722
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: dot supercast dot com to become a gek Legend, or

723
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: find the link in the episode description. All right, let's

724
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: do some ads. Hello, what's up dude?

725
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: Hi? Who's this?

726
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: This is the Gecko guy from the internet.

727
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Lyle, what up?

728
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: Man?

729
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: What's up?

730
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Do with's your name?

731
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: My name is Devin.

732
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: How are you, Devin. I'm good. Have we ever spoken before?

733
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: We have? I got engaged at your Portland live show?

734
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, homie, what's dam Yeah dude, holy shit,

735
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: I remember that.

736
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

737
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: My fiance son and I are just playing Fortnite. I'll

738
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: put it on pause.

739
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: How are you doing?

740
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: Doing fantastic? Thank you? Yeah? I doing good.

741
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: How are you tell me more about that? Now? I'm

742
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: trying to remember. This is at Mississippis videos is in Portland?

743
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So we ended up going to the Mississippi Studios.

744
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: It was funny because we actually had VIP tickets and

745
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: we had no idea where to go because we were

746
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: buying drinks, and like last second, I had it all

747
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: planned out and I was like, I'm gonna text Lyle

748
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: and ask if I can go up on stage and

749
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: he texted me back and You're like what to do it?

750
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: And then like it all hit and it was super

751
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: real and I was like, oh God. And then I

752
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: got up there and uh, you had a Jewish leather

753
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: daddy that just converted to Judaism. And after the show

754
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: he asked if we wanted to if he could marry

755
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: us and officiate us. Wait really and yeah really yeah,

756
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: like right before.

757
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have let

758
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: him do that either.

759
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: I'll be real, he's actually invited. Man, he's a cool dude.

760
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: Wait really, Wait, that's so cool. By the way, I

761
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: didn't say that to be mean to that guy. It

762
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: was just a just trying to do so for context

763
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: for them, for the context of people listen. I mean,

764
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not going to add any for the

765
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: context what I'm about to say. But yeah, there was

766
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: this dude in like all leather like BDSM gear who

767
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: came up on stage to talk about converting to Judaism,

768
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: which was the most random thing a guy dressed like

769
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: that could have possibly talked about. And he was one

770
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: of the people that came up on stage that night.

771
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: And then there was you and and your fiance and

772
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: so you just started hanging out with that guy after

773
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: the show, and now he's invited to your wedding. Uh.

774
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we actually started talking on Instagram and he's

775
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: super cool and strangely he knows like a couple of

776
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: my friends. I live further south, like near Eugene, sin

777
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: Lones in Oregon, and he knows quite a few people

778
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: that I know, and I'm like, oh wow, what a

779
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 2: small world.

780
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: That's cool man, Oh goddamn yeah wow. So well, as

781
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: I was curious about this because is your wife. Was

782
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: she a fan of the show or was she like,

783
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: why the fuck did you pick this gecko guy's live

784
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: show to do? To do this at?

785
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: So it's actually really funny. I used to work at

786
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: office depot and one of my associates always had his

787
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Spotify on and your podcast always popped up, and I

788
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: was like, who the hell is this guy? And finally,

789
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: like I quit the job and I reached out to

790
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: him and I was like, Hey, there's this dude I'm

791
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: looking for like new podcasts and he stresses a gecko

792
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: and he's like therapy Gecko.

793
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 3: I was like, cool.

794
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: So I started listening to you, and I was working nights,

795
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: and one day I had it open and she happened

796
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: to listen to it too, like through my phone. Yeah,

797
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: and she was like, wow, he's really funny. And then

798
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: you started popping up on our algorithm and we just

799
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: kind of got hooked.

800
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: Man.

801
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: We're like you're super great, You're very help people. Yeah,

802
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: and like her mom listens now, and my mom was cool.

803
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: So so she's so she's your grandma. Listens that I

804
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: all right, I'll say cunt less Nah, no she so

805
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: so all right, so she so she both you guys

806
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: are both into the pocket. All right. That's cool, man,

807
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: that's cool. How's everything going is? How's how's being married?

808
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Is it exactly the same as before?

809
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: No?

810
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: Actually it's pretty awesome. Like I had started a new

811
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: not really a new job, but like a new location,

812
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: and when I was introducing myself to the team, I

813
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: was like, hey, I'm married, instead of being like, yeah,

814
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: I got this girlfriend back home. It is what it is,

815
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: you know. It's so it kind of feels a little better,

816
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: you know, a little more air of relief, but like, yeah,

817
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: it's nice.

818
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: So did the leather guy try to convert you to Judaism?

819
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: Like was he trying to get you to have a

820
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: Jewish wedding?

821
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: No? No, but I have been I've been dabbling my fee.

822
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: I've been kind of looking at Judaism and I'm like, huh, yeah,

823
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: it's kind of.

824
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, Okay, what tell what a What's what's

825
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: catching your interest?

826
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: Honestly, So, where I live there's a huge sense of

827
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: community and I'm like, huh, that's something that's really cool

828
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 2: compared to like all the different sects of like Christianity,

829
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, like just all these different runs of people

830
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: that are like I'm Mormon or I'm this, I'm that,

831
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, we're just we're Jewish and we're

832
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: hanging out. We're having really good times together and just

833
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: keeping it real, and I'm like, huh, that's kind of

834
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: interesting to me.

835
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like growing up, I always felt like I,

836
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, like like Mormons and Christians, they were always

837
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: trying to like get folks, but Jews, we we're not

838
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: really out there. We're not knocking on doors, you know.

839
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: No, No, I grew up in a town full of

840
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: Jehovah witnesses and most of them are on our doorstep

841
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: every weekend.

842
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

843
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: That's uh. That that that's what. That's what in our

844
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: culture we would call a whole thing anyway. All right, So, oh,

845
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: you know what you texted me, Devin, and you this

846
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: is why I called you. You texted me because you

847
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: said you wanted to talk about Christmas versus Honikkah movies.

848
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

849
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so I actually wanted to ask you what

850
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: you think is the worst Christmas movie or special versus

851
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 2: the worst Honka Honkah movie flash special? And I can't

852
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: really think of any.

853
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: There's not that many that I was literally about to say.

854
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: There's the rug Rats. I don't know what, dude, is

855
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Jewish from the rug Rats that made that happen. But yeah,

856
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: there's the rug Rats. Well, the rug Rats have a

857
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: Honical one and they also the Ruggrets did all the

858
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: Jewish stuff because they got a Honica one and a

859
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: Passover one.

860
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah one rocks.

861
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: Yeah what else? Adam Sandler, I actually have never seen

862
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: that movie, but I remember wanting to watch it as

863
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: a kid and my mom wouldn't let me.

864
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: We watched it last night with our son, he's nine.

865
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: I feel like it's okay, it's a great movie.

866
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have a worst Christmas movie.

867
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: I have a best one. I have my favorite one.

868
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 2: Let's hear it the Polar.

869
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: Express of course, no way, yeah, dude, yeah, yeah, a lot.

870
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: Apparently my grandma's favorite movie.

871
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: That's your favorite movie.

872
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 2: For Christmas movie? That's that's our favorite Christmas movie together.

873
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 2: We watch it every year.

874
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: To you, why don't we get married?

875
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,959
Speaker 2: Then, dude?

876
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: What up stood, we did do this? Do it? I like?

877
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, The Polar Express is a great movie because

878
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: it really is like it's one night, it's uh, you know,

879
00:50:53,360 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: this beautiful cozy town. There's like horror elements. The girl

880
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have her ticket, so the conductor takes her out

881
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: to murder her. But you find out he doesn't murder her.

882
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: He just gives her a hot chocolate. The hot chocolate

883
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: in the movie. It looks so good. What else I mean,

884
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful everyone in the movie. The movie just

885
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: makes you want to cry the whole time because it's

886
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: just it's like a nice old It's just a bunch

887
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: of nice old guys, the conductor and.

888
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: The you know, you have all those really nice people

889
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: just together on one train, and it's like, man, that's

890
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: magic right there.

891
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: Of all the people I would be most disappointed to

892
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: find out as a pedophile, it would definitely be the

893
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: conductor of the Polar Express.

894
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: What about the kid with the glasses, the we're a

895
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: little nazy kid. What if he grew up in was

896
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: a pedophile? Pretty gross.

897
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: Him. I don't know. I don't care about him and

898
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: his fictional life at all.

899
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: Hey man, I also had another question. Yeah, because I'm

900
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: looking at something right now. What do you think about

901
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger's Turbo Man. I don't know what that is,

902
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: like jingle all the way, I don't know what that is. Really.

903
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: So it's a movie about Arnold Schwartzenegger dressing up as

904
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: like a Power Rangers superhero guy and saving his kid

905
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: at a parade. It's got Simbat in it. He's the

906
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: Postman that really wants to blow people up.

907
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this movie. I think I would probably

908
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: rather watch a YouTube video about seven things you missed

909
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: in the Kingdom Hearts three trailer then watch that.

910
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: I mean, that's fair.

911
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: I could see what's the best Hanika movie. There's no Honka.

912
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: There's not a big market for Hanika movies. I don't

913
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: think that it's why not, Well, because there's like two

914
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: Jewish people.

915
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: That's fair. Well, I mean they made movies about like.

916
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, like hmmm, I'm not sure. I'm trying

917
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: to think of like any good Hanka movies.

918
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: I know there's like a few specials, but.

919
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: I don't even think there's a few. I can't I

920
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: can only name we so far, we've only named two

921
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: Hanka media that's true.

922
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: Hmmm, we should make a push for that. Do you

923
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: want to make a Honka movie?

924
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: Eh? That's the whole thing.

925
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: Well, it is the whole thing.

926
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: What else you could teach me?

927
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: Abu hankah?

928
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: You sound like you know than I do.

929
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 2: Man, Nah, dude, I'm only learning what I know from

930
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: a dude up in Portland.

931
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: It wears leather, Yeah, that guy definitely knows. I think

932
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: that guy probably has a crazy hankah that that leather guy.

933
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: He probably lights all the candles of of the Menora

934
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: and then uses it to burn the fuck out of

935
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: his back, and like a crazy he probably drips Minora

936
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: candlewax in his asshole.

937
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: Is that a thing?

938
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably, I know that.

939
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: Like Grinch porn is a thing.

940
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: What's grinch porn?

941
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: Oh?

942
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: Like Rule thirty four? Like porn of the grend No?

943
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: Like no.

944
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: So my fiance used to work at the adult shop

945
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: and they sell Grinch costumes, like the green Grinch guy,

946
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: and people dress up as the green sch and do

947
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: that stuff.

948
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's I guess that's not any weirder

949
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: than having sex in a gecko costume.

950
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: That's fair. How many times have you done it? In

951
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: the gecko costume.

952
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: What's your name again?

953
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 2: You don't have to tell me. My name is Devon,

954
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: but you don't have to tell me Devin.

955
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Whose kid is the kid? Is it a kid that

956
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: you guys had together, or is it like a step child?

957
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: Uh? He is my step son? Oh?

958
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: Cool man?

959
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: What? Uh? Yeah?

960
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: How's so is it? Is it? Is he like full

961
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: time with you guys? Or is he does he see

962
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: ye like his his his his other dad? Or is

963
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: it just you two raising him together?

964
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: Just us? Which is pretty cool?

965
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.

966
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: The yeah, yeah, uh, he definitely full time. Uh, he's

967
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: full time here and so likes all the thing stuff

968
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: we do.

969
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, do you guys have a Christmas tree yet?

970
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: We do? I call, I can send you a picture

971
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: of it.

972
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: What's your favorite ornament on the tree?

973
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: Hm hmm right now, so we had this, Like I'm

974
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 2: looking at one of our tiny trees. We have a

975
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: rainbow one. It's got a little like star on top,

976
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: but on top of the start it's got a wizard

977
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: hat and a beard. That one's probably my favorite right now.

978
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Do you do you guys?

979
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: Hm?

980
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Hm, Bro, that's so cool that you made friends with

981
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: that with that leather guy and that he's gonna be

982
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: at your wedding. I'm stuckd about that. Yeah, I love

983
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: I love that kind of show. I love that kind

984
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: of show. I'm like, dude, I actually I met, I've

985
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: like met. I did a show in Japan and I

986
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: met this couple a few shows later. I forget which

987
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: country I was in, but there was a couple. It

988
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: was like, these two people who came to my Japan

989
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: show together came to one of my shows in this

990
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: other country and I was like, oh shit, I remember

991
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: you guys, and they were like, yeah, we we we

992
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: we're together now. We met at your show. And I

993
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: think that's happened a few times where people like we'll

994
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: meet at the show and like become friends and you know,

995
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: do all this shit.

996
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: So you know that.

997
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: I think that's hell of cool. So I'm glad that

998
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: you're friends with Does he have a name? I keep

999
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: calling him Jewish leather guy. I feel like I should

1000
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: call him his name.

1001
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I just looked at his picture on Instagram.

1002
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I know you we.

1003
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: Did on Instagram. Does he have a bunch of pictures

1004
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: of him? And like leather. Does he have a picture

1005
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: of himself with a leather KIPA?

1006
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: I believe so. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, yes,

1007
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: I think it was posted a couple of days ago.

1008
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: I'll have to look again. It's been a minute.

1009
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: That's really fun.

1010
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: We were shopping a couple like a few weeks after

1011
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: your show, and someone that we had also met in

1012
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: line to talk to you with worked at a local

1013
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: store and they were like, Hey, I know you, and

1014
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, excuse you? Who are you? Nick?

1015
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: You're a therapy get go.

1016
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: We talked in line. I was like what what and

1017
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, man, you don't remember me? Like, I'm sorry,

1018
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't really don't. I wanted to do a shout out.

1019
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: If she's listening her and her fiance or husband or

1020
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: boyfriend or whoever, I'm really sorry that I forgot who

1021
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: you were, all right.

1022
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: I forget people all the time. And uh, you know

1023
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: it's fine. People get upset and then you just you know,

1024
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: you live your life. You go to a sandwich.

1025
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: Hey, I had a question also another one. I'm sorry,

1026
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: what's up? How do you deal with like all these

1027
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: people that are just so upset.

1028
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: All the time, Like upset at me.

1029
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: No, No, just like upset in general. Like sometimes on

1030
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: your show you have a lot of happy people and

1031
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: you get like a lot of sad people that are

1032
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: just like existential and really rough, and I'm like, hey man,

1033
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: why you know, like, let's just chill, bro I don't know.

1034
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that a lot lately because we've

1035
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: had a lot of like crazy calls like that, and dude,

1036
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I just like, at this point,

1037
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm showing up to you know this,

1038
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm showing up to work. I'm like

1039
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: doing the thing. I'm this is, this is what I do.

1040
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: This is the show. And sometimes it's it's a little bit, uh,

1041
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, more dense than others. And you know, at

1042
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think that having these

1043
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: these dense conversations and having like a regular window into

1044
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of stuff, and and and a

1045
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: window into the way that people are feeling, even if

1046
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: those feelings are negative, I think that that's a helpful

1047
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: thing for me. I hope it's a helpful thing for

1048
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: the people that are listening. And so even on the

1049
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: days where I'm just like fuck, I don't know if

1050
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: I can do this ship ah, you know, we just

1051
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: we do it and uh we sell T shirts.

1052
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: Hey, man, pretty cool, that's pretty noble, honestly, Like I

1053
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: sell coffee all day and my highlights are like besides

1054
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: coming home, just telling people like I hope this makes

1055
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: you feel better today, whereas like you're able to actually

1056
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: give them full on advice and the chat is awesome

1057
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: all the time. But thank you as well. I think

1058
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: that's cool. Thank you guys do a really cool thing

1059
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: and I'm glad to be a part of that community.

1060
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: So, Devin, man, is there anything else you want to

1061
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?

1062
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: You know, I do stop making your drink order so complicated.

1063
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: We don't like it, all right, everyone.

1064
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: I just like a little bit of almond milk. That's it.

1065
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: I just like almond milk.

1066
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Just a quarter spoon of almond milk.

1067
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: Upon Hey, thank you for the kind words, Devin. It

1068
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: means a lot. And uh, mazle tove to you and

1069
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: your family. Take care of man.

1070
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: Hey, happy Hanukah and Mary Christians.

1071
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: Take care dude. I could do a we could do

1072
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: a Christmas I mean a Hanka movie. We could do

1073
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: a Hanka movie. I could do the How the Gex

1074
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: Stole Honakah.

1075
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: I like that.

1076
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: It's just me shoving candles up my ass. Hello, folks,

1077
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode. But

1078
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: get this, I'm releasing a bonus episode this week. That's right,

1079
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: an entire extra hour of the podcast that you can

1080
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: listen to by becoming a premium member of Therapy Gecko

1081
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: over at Therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. Supercast subscribers

1082
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: get access to bonus episodes. They get a completely ad

1083
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: free podcast feed of the regular show, they get recordings

1084
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: from my live shows, members only streams, and they help

1085
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,919
Speaker 1: support my ability to continue doing this podcast. So here's

1086
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: a clip from this week's members only bone. In this episode,

1087
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: you texted me and you said, I'd like to talk

1088
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: about how I came for the first time the day

1089
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: that my grandfather died.

1090
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of weeks ago.

1091
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 5: My uh, honestly, my grandpa like died, you know, you know,

1092
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 5: whatever happens.

1093
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, you're this happened a couple of weeks ago.

1094
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this Uh, he died on October twenty eighth.

1095
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: You came for the first time a couple of weeks ago.

1096
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 5: Listen, listen, listen. There's some back story to this.

1097
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: Okay, there's backstory to this.

1098
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'm listening. I'm listening. If you want to

1099
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: hear this full conversation, you can sign up to become

1100
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Speaker 1: a premium member at Therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com,

1101
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: or find the link in the episode description. That's therapy

1102
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right, I have nothing

1103
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: else to say.

1104
01:02:51,480 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: They goes on the line, thank you, but he's not

1105
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 3: really an expert.