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Speaker 2: Let's give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: We live in a sports world where everything has to

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Speaker 3: be a massive deal. It has to be absolutely this

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Speaker 3: team is all in, or absolutely this team is all out.

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Speaker 3: Where everything has to be clearly good or bad and

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Speaker 3: there's no in between. And I guess this week I

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Speaker 3: want to challenge that because as much as we want

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Speaker 3: to talk about the names involved with the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 3: isn't it at least possible that the Steelers are not

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Speaker 3: doing anything revolutionary, that the Steelers aren't doing anything that

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Speaker 3: mortgage is their future, and in fact, the Steelers are

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Speaker 3: just doing what they have to do to make it

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Speaker 3: through this year. It's not a sexy take, but sometimes

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Speaker 3: the right take is maybe it works out Stuo Broson

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Speaker 3: a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 2: He's Buck rising on Jason Fitzen.

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Speaker 3: Like I just push back sometimes to hot take culture,

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Speaker 3: which we're all part of because we sit here in

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Speaker 3: front of microphones every single day, and you don't get

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Speaker 3: to the point that you sit in front of a

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Speaker 3: microphone unless you're opinionated. I feel like Buck and I

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Speaker 3: share a common trait in that we're both the type

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Speaker 3: of person that in a bar you can say almost anything,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna say, well, yeah, Bud, have you thought

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Speaker 3: about it this way?

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Speaker 2: Like I think you.

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Speaker 3: Have to be at some point argumentative to get into

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Speaker 3: radio in general or sports media in general. But that

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Speaker 3: being said, book, the Pittsburgh Steelers make a trade Jayalen

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Speaker 3: Ramsey for making Fats and Fitzpatrick, and they also acquire

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Speaker 3: John Newsmith. This is shortly after signing Aaron Roddy, and I've.

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Speaker 2: Just heard all sorts of takes.

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Speaker 3: I've heard everybody yelling and screaming, even we've played on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. To be completely fair, this morning, we've

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Speaker 3: been playing some of Colin Cowherd saying, oh this is

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Speaker 2: Like why is this all in?

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Speaker 3: I guess my whole thing is like, look, the Steelers

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Speaker 3: are who they are, and yes, they've acquired some big names.

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Speaker 3: They've given up a big name in the process of

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Speaker 3: doing it. But what if in doing this, what they've

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Speaker 3: really done is they've brought some people in for this year.

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Speaker 3: They haven't mortgaged their future to do it. They haven't

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Speaker 3: sold off future draft picks to do any of this,

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Speaker 3: they haven't screwed up their salary cap. In the process

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Speaker 3: of trying to figure it all out. They put themselves

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Speaker 3: in a situation where, knowing that they don't have short

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Speaker 3: term solutions to wanting to be more competitive, they've gone

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Speaker 3: out and done the best they can to put in

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Speaker 3: short term solutions to wanting to be more competitive.

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Speaker 2: Is it gonna work? Maybe? Is it going to be meaningful?

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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Are the Steelers actually going to be much better? I

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Speaker 2: don't think so.

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Speaker 3: It makes them a conversation piece, and that to me

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Speaker 3: is really just what the Steelers are. They're not a

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Speaker 3: terrible football team. They're not a great football team. They're

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Speaker 3: just a football team that, because of name recognition, brand recognition,

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Speaker 3: they're coaching the quarterback. We're going to talk a lot

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Speaker 3: about this year but I think that takes have gotten

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Speaker 5: Which is always the case, right, somebody's gonna fly off

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Speaker 5: it Only you mentioned cities that would take an NFL

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Speaker 5: only takes one person to have the extreme opinion before

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Speaker 5: everybody starts flying off the handle. The reason why the

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Speaker 5: offseason because of the moves that they've made, but not

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Speaker 5: necessarily just because of the moves that they've made, but

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Speaker 5: because it's so uncharacteristic of how the Steelers typically.

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Speaker 4: Go about roster building.

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Speaker 5: Now, I know Omar Khan has been in that job

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Speaker 5: to assist me there. But this is a different approach

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Speaker 5: It's just not the typical behavior that we're accustomed to

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Speaker 5: term quarterback solution. They are going in maybe not all in,

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Speaker 5: but they're going in on forty one year old Aaron Rodgers, who.

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Speaker 4: Still has something. The biggest detriment to.

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Speaker 5: But it's because like they they don't make moves like

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Speaker 5: trading for Jalen Ramsey, who's still a good player, right

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Speaker 5: but Mega Fitzpatrick is also a good player. So if

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Speaker 5: it's if it's a push as far as what they

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Speaker 5: and they also pick up a tight end in John U. Smith,

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Speaker 5: who Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator there is familiar with

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Speaker 5: that could be of benefit. And you look at the

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Speaker 5: darn Darnell, Darnell, Thank you. Darnell Washington out of Georgia

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Speaker 5: Arthur Smith's scheme. Like, there's just they we have created

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Speaker 5: here more questions from my standpoint than answers, which is

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Speaker 5: why I think people are are either interested or confused

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Speaker 5: leads you down the rabbit hole of the hot take.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm going to create an imaginary scenario follow me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, choice, but we're here now, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Buck Rising and I are cogms of our new team,

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Speaker 3: the Indiana Risings. All right, it's a I put them

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Speaker 3: in Indiana just for you. The Indiana Risings. They play like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, in the middle of nowhere, Indiana, very

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Speaker 4: That's basically the entire state.

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Speaker 3: But okay, yeah, so it's not Indianapolis, but you know

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Speaker 3: it's the Indiana Risings. I'm gonna paint paint a scenario,

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Speaker 3: okay for the way round?

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Speaker 3: Fort Wayne good, Yeah, that's good. Fort Wayne Risings. We

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Speaker 3: I've got a really good pass rusher wants to get paid,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not sure what we can do on that

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Speaker 3: things are overall. But man, we don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: We know we don't have a quarterback. Okay, well, what

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Speaker 3: We couldn't draft one. We didn't like any of them

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Speaker 3: But there's this one guy over here that might be

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Speaker 3: pretty good. We can do him for a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: If he's got anything left in the tank, then we

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Speaker 3: right Like, if there's nothing left in the tank, it's

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Speaker 3: a one year deal, doesn't cost us anything. Okay. We're

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Speaker 3: also going to acquire this tight end, this tight end

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Speaker 3: to do that, it's a pick swap of a seventh

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Speaker 3: I think if you take the Steelers brand off of it,

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Speaker 3: if you make them the Indiana Risings, what we see

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Speaker 3: is that Pittsburgh just looked around and said, Okay, there

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Speaker 3: why not at least roll the dice on a couple

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Speaker 3: figure out how to fix our long term problems. Like

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Speaker 3: that's me is the most reasonable explanation what the Steelers

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Speaker 4: But that's not a roll of the dice organization.

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Speaker 5: That's a very thoughtful planned out and to your point

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Speaker 5: about taking the brand off of it, that's the thing

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Speaker 5: also makes me wonder about the future of Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 5: that that's not an organization that makes rass decisions. They

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Speaker 5: going to keep them from being outright competitive. Right They're

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Speaker 5: not going to NFL organizations don't tank, and when they

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Speaker 5: try to, like the Dolphins did, they get fined and

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Speaker 5: they lose first round draft picks over it. Like there

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Speaker 5: are things to keep teams from doing this blatantly, And

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Speaker 5: I don't think the Pittsburgh Steelers would ever, It's not

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Speaker 5: in their DNA. The fan base would riot if they

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Speaker 5: fan base is always also pretty agitated about the Mike

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Speaker 4: If fitsy, how.

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Speaker 5: Long has it been since the Pittsburgh Steelers under Mike

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Speaker 5: Tomlin won a playoff game?

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Speaker 2: A very long time?

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Speaker 4: Eight years? Eight years is how long it has been

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Speaker 4: since the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: The Pittsburgh Steelers a championship caliber organization. They think you're

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Speaker 5: in and year out, but more often than not, has

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Speaker 5: not won a playoff game in eight years. They get

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm qualifying all of this buck because this

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Speaker 5: Sounds like you are sounds like you're praying on Why

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Speaker 4: It's weird.

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Speaker 3: Look look no, because Mike Tomlins. By the way, Mike

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin gets fired, it's nuts. If Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: Gets fired, it'll be just like Andy Reid getting fired

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Speaker 5: Right, He's only fifty three, He's fifty three years, doing

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Speaker 3: So, but here's the thing. This is the part that

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Speaker 5: Nobody has managed more difficult situations over the course of

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Speaker 3: for Tomlin. If you don't have a quarterback, then whoever

438
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: comes in and succeeds Tomlin doesn't have any easier path,

439
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: especially in a division where you're taking on two teams

440
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 3: that have two of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

441
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Speaker 2: It's just that that's real.

442
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: And I keep looking back at this list and over

443
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 3: the course of five years, I mean doing the quick

444
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: count here, seventeen coaches that I just listed that were

445
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 3: hired over the last five years have all ready he

446
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: been fired from those jobs. Like seventeen, I can only

447
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: find nine over the last five years that still have

448
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 3: their job. And that includes names that are coming in

449
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 3: on the hot seat like that when we start talking about, well,

450
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 3: there's still nine left, okay, I mean we're also walking

451
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: into a year where we're saying, is Mike McDaniel on.

452
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: The hot seat? Should he be on the hot seat?

453
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: Is Brian Dable on the hot seat? Should he be

454
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: on the hot seat?

455
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: I certainly don't think Kevin Stefanski is on the hot

456
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 3: seat in any way, shape or form, But might he

457
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 3: be I don't know, Like those are three of the

458
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 3: nine that have actually managed.

459
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 2: To keep their job due this time.

460
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 3: So it just shows you how wildly inexact all of

461
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 3: this hiring process is. And when you acknowledge how difficult

462
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 3: it is to have a guy, I think maybe it

463
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: makes you appreciate the guy a little bit more, or

464
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: at least it should make you appreciate the guy a

465
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: little bit more. The problem for the Steelers are Steelers

466
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: fans are stuck in upper middle class and they feel

467
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: like that's the worst.

468
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: Look anybody, anybody that's living.

469
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 3: Right now paycheck to paycheck, Like there's nobody that has

470
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: it worse anywhere in the world. And then you talk

471
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 3: to somebody that's homeless, and you realize that, hey, it

472
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: gets worse in paycheck to paycheck, and there are people

473
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: that you know, only have five thousand dollars in the

474
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 3: bank and they're like, oh my god.

475
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: I can't get any worse than this.

476
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 3: Then they talk to somebody to live in paycheck to paycheck,

477
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: Like that's a very real life example of what's happening

478
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Like you think that the worst thing

479
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: possible is that all you ever do is nine wins

480
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 3: and you don't make the playoffs until you suddenly wake

481
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 3: up one day and you realize that, I don't know,

482
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: Urban Meyer's your head coach, and you've wasted a quarterback

483
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: and your entire franchise sucks until you go through year

484
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 3: after year after year of terrible, terrible, terrible football, like

485
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: Browns fans have, like Raiders fans have, like Jags fans have,

486
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 3: Like they're just you forget what it's like to actually

487
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: have a team that you root for that sucks when

488
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 3: your team's just okay, and you think that's the worst

489
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: thing that can ever happen.

490
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Speaker 5: And it's ironic that you bring up Urban because that

491
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 5: was obviously a disaster in Jacksonville.

492
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Speaker 4: But like that's one of the more patient ownership groups.

493
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Speaker 5: Seoan con maybe be good at this, but like he

494
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 5: gives his people time to you know, play themselves out

495
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 5: or coach themselves out or in the case of oh

496
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 5: who was the general manager, that they waited way too

497
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 5: long to fire, like in the middle of their coaching

498
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 5: search this offseason. Former forty nine Ers general manager, it's

499
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 5: going to drive me crazy anyway, I'll find you.

500
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: Get my point. I think there's there's an example of

501
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: this in Trent Pulki.

502
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trent Water's going to drive me crazy.

503
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: There's a there's a perfect example of this.

504
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 5: And I feel like I've brought a lot of things

505
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 5: back here locally to where you're in Connecticut. I'm in Nashville,

506
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 5: and by nature of covering an NFL team, I have

507
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 5: a purview of of one team and a lot of

508
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 5: these situations, and it happens to be a team that

509
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 5: I believe to be poorly run in the Tennessee Titans.

510
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 5: When they fired Mike Vrabel here, the Titans won six

511
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 5: games that season, and they had they were coming off

512
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 5: a season where they were they were seven and three

513
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 5: uh in the off season that they traded the after

514
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 5: after trading A. J. Brown away, they started seven and three,

515
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 5: They went to Philadelphia, they got their asses kicked by

516
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 5: AJ Brown and they ended up losing seven straight. And

517
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 5: then Mike Rabel's final year here in Nashville, they won

518
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 5: six games and they were competitive enough, but the roster

519
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 5: was a nightmare. And when ownership let go of Mike Rabel,

520
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 5: there were disagreements with Rabel in the building and Mike

521
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 5: now has everything that he wants in New England because

522
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 5: he is Robert Craft's second favorite son after Tom Brady.

523
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 4: I do truly believe that.

524
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 5: So he's gotten everything that he wanted in Tennessee in

525
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 5: New England and we'll see how that plays out. It

526
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 5: may not work for Mike, but when ownership in Tennessee

527
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 5: fired Mike Frable, they decided, well, it's not good enough

528
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 5: to win more games than you lose, and Titans fans

529
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 5: bought in on that. But anybody familiar with the history,

530
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 5: and it's not a long history. I mean they are

531
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 5: the Houston Oilers, so it does technically go back to

532
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 5: nineteen sixty, but anybody familiar with like Titans era football,

533
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 5: the last less than thirty years of football, Who the

534
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 5: hell are the Tennessee Titans to say that it's not

535
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 5: good enough to win more games you lose? Like where

536
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: do you get off the franchise that drafted Jake Locker

537
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 5: and made a mess of Vince Young that is perpetually

538
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 5: the butt of the Jeff Fisher eight and eight jokes, Like,

539
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 5: who the hell are you to not want to win

540
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 5: more games than you lose? Because what have they done

541
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 5: lately since firing Mike Rabel. I'm not saying it's the

542
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 5: only reason that that's happened that way, but they've been

543
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 5: they've been the worst. They were the worst team in

544
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: football last year. You would sell your soul to win

545
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 5: more games than you lose right now, in that situation,

546
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 5: it's one of those classic examples. And we'll get to

547
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 5: see this head to head. The Patriots are coming to

548
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 5: Nashville this year, so it'll be Mike Vrabel's revenge touring

549
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 5: all these different things.

550
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 4: But like the grass is not always greener.

551
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: The Patriots are another living, breathing, eating example of what

552
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: you're talking right like, because Patriots fans a few years

553
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: ago were just having the raging debate was it Build

554
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: or was it Brady? And then they get separated and

555
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: it's like, well, Brady went and won a Super Bowl,

556
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: so it must have been Brady and Bill sucks. Well,

557
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden they fired. Now guess what

558
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 3: Now they're still they're trying to figure out. Look, I

559
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: think Drake May I wish my Belover Raiders to draft

560
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: to Drake May.

561
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: I hope he turns out to be a superstar quarterback.

562
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: I think he has all the potential in the world,

563
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: and I happen to like Rabel Alana as a head coach.

564
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: But that doesn't change the fact that since Brady left,

565
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: the Patriots haven't been able to figure out the quarterback

566
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: and position with any stability. And they made it one year,

567
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: one year with supposedly the hand chosen. Oh my god,

568
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: this is like Gerrod Mayo was supposed to be a

569
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: seamless transition into what it's like Like, I just how

570
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: often do we see coaching or quarterback changes that actually

571
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: work out?

572
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes, Yeah, you can be the Green Bay.

573
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 3: Packers and you just get it right, and you get

574
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: it right, and you get it right, and congratulations man, because.

575
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 2: That's such a special thing. But the Colts fans sat.

576
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: There and said, Okay, we went from Peyton Manning to

577
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: Andrew luck Man.

578
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: This quarterback thing's easy until.

579
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: You Anthony Richardson, and then you realize ain't so easy,

580
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: and now you don't have an answer right. So it's

581
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: just I think fans and organizations should be more scared

582
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 3: of the revolving door than they admit that they are,

583
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: because once you start that revolving door, My god, I

584
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: have watched sixteen coaches if you include bull stints of

585
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: John Gruden. I have watched sixteen coaches since two thousand,

586
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: from my beloved Raiders sixteen. Think about it, like, now,

587
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: that's not just interim, like sixteen head coaches?

588
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: My god, what do you do with that? Right?

589
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: And so when you start talking about, well, the organization

590
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: needs to move on from Tomlin, Okay, my god, I

591
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 3: hope you do.

592
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: I hope you move on from Tomlin.

593
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: And I hope Tomlin suddenly turns around and decides he

594
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: wants to be the head coach of a team that

595
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: will actually appreciate him, and he gives you another twenty

596
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: years where all he does is win football games every year.

597
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 5: And it's not to say like because I don't want

598
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 5: that to be an outright indictment of Steelers fans, because

599
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 5: I do think that they do have a lot of

600
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 5: love and respect for what Mike Tomplin Mike Tomlin has accomplished.

601
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 5: But that wears thin right. It is very much a

602
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 5: what have you done for me lately?

603
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: League?

604
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 5: So I don't think that the Steelers fan complaint is

605
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 5: complete lely unwarranted. FITZI, I've done multiple games in Pittsburgh

606
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: over the last couple of years, be they primetime games

607
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 5: or regular season games, whatever the case may be. Without fail,

608
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 5: every time I land in Pittsburgh get in an Uber.

609
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: The first thing that the ube end because the Uber

610
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 5: drivers always want to talk, and that's fine, we enjoy that.

611
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: But the thing that they immediately start doing is bitching

612
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 5: about Mike Tomlin.

613
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 4: And it's one of the most bizarre.

614
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 5: Things in the world because I'm like, I will take

615
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: the Mike Tomlin if you don't want to Mike Tomlin, Like,

616
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 5: are you crazy? That the idea that of all the

617
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 5: different quantities that Mike Tomlin understands how to orchestrate a

618
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: winning culture, the thing that is the most discussed but

619
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 5: the hardest to actually attain among these organizations. To make

620
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 5: sure that all the different pieces and parts can move

621
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: in the same direction. Fitzy in today's day and age,

622
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 5: to be able to capture the attention of fifty three

623
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 5: individuals who range from anywhere from twenty years old to

624
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: thirty one or thirty five or whatever the oldest NFL

625
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess what is Rogers forty one now, so.

626
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: He'd be the So think about that.

627
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 5: To keep a everybody's attention fifty three different individuals, all

628
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 5: paying attention to you, all moving in the same direction

629
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 5: with a twenty year span. The way that Mike Tomlin

630
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: is going to have to do, knowing that you're going

631
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: to have to deal with all of those individuals in

632
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 5: completely different ways, but still have to get them all

633
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: on the collective same page to accomplish one goal the

634
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: way that he is an expert in. That is not

635
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 5: something that you can find. And I mean, hell again,

636
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 5: I'm looking around. I cover an organization that has fired

637
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 5: two general managers and a head coach in each of

638
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 5: the last offseason, and I don't think Brian Callahan is

639
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 5: safe by any stretch of the imagination. So with that,

640
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 5: I think that you have to continue to consider all

641
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 5: of the different things that that can befall your football team,

642
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: your football organization when you decide that you've had enough,

643
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: or you decide that the grass might actually be greener

644
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: in these circumstances, because the question to well, who are

645
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 5: you going to get?

646
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: You don't have an answer to that.

647
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: You just want blood, And that's such a natural reaction

648
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 5: for a lot of fans to have. And I'm not

649
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: saying that you can't ever have that feeling, but at

650
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 5: the end of the day, you have to come to

651
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: some level of rationalization that you have to have a

652
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 5: plan in place.

653
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: We were talking earlier in the show.

654
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Speaker 5: If you missed it, you can check out the podcast

655
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 5: about the New York Knicks and the hiring of Mike

656
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Speaker 5: Brown and how the Knicks organization fired Tom Thibodeaux after

657
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Speaker 5: getting them to the conference finals for the first time

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Speaker 5: in twenty five years and understanding that he might have

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Speaker 5: a ceiling as a coach.

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Speaker 4: But when you go through the hiring process.

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Speaker 5: The way that they did, only to come out with

662
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Speaker 5: several different entities turning you down, or several different organizations

663
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Speaker 5: to denying you the opportunity to interview the candidate that

664
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Speaker 5: you thought would be a showing that would absolutely take

665
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Speaker 5: that job and run with it without a second thought.

666
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Speaker 5: You put yourself in a circumstance where you hire Mike

667
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Speaker 5: Brown and Mike Brown is fine, but fine was not

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Speaker 5: what you were looking for. That's such an egregious error

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Speaker 5: in that particular spot. And I think that's what that's

670
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Speaker 5: what Steelers fans have to think about the full picture.

671
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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, you back with me,

672
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: did I stall well enough? Did I do a good

673
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Speaker 5: enough job? I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: No, I can't hear FITZI.

675
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Speaker 5: So we are going to we are going to take

676
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Speaker 5: a quick break. Perhaps we will be able to execute.

677
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 5: Would you rather? Maybe Ian and Mary will just have

678
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Speaker 5: to do it with me. Well, he gets his connection right.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Two Pros and a Cup of Joe

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Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. I'm back Buck Rising. Tried to get rid

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Speaker 3: of me and wanted it to be a solo show.

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Speaker 3: Not so lucky. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with you.

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Speaker 3: Right after the show, our podcast goes up. If you

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Speaker 3: to give them five stars again. Just search two Pros

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Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcast. You'll find today's show and

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Speaker 3: a best STU version potus posted right after we get

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Speaker 3: off the air.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Absolute shout out to Ian and Mary who had put

697
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Speaker 3: up with us now for three hours this morning. I

698
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: don't know how they do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

700
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Speaker 3: They do it, but we appreciate that it's brutal.

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Speaker 4: Do it. Well, it's okay, rude, I mean it's brutal.

702
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: Not rude enough, man.

703
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: No, they're still angry about the fireworks takes. That's what

704
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: it really comes to me.

705
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: No, they're not angry about the fireworks.

706
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: Well, that's because I just I fundamentally misunderstood what FITZI

707
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 5: was trying to say there, and I did not realize

708
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 5: that Big Time Rush was of our generation more than

709
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: it is of Fitzi's generation. Now they're taking out my

710
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 5: my lack of interest in dealing with people in crowds

711
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 5: around big events like Fourth of July, not.

712
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: My hate for fireworks.

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Speaker 5: They're they're they're angry at me because I've misdirected my

714
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 5: own anger.

715
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Speaker 2: That's that's what you do.

716
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Speaker 4: You just walk.

717
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Speaker 3: You're a Tasmanian devil of anger. When you walk into

718
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: the room. It just it just gets everybody, you know,

719
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: everybody gets all like I'm a test effect of joy

720
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: and energy, like I'm walking in full jazz hands, like

721
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: it's a you know, just an explosive moment of heart

722
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: to heartwarming happiness, and you're in here crushing.

723
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Speaker 5: I don't want your hugs. He threatened to hug me

724
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 5: after the Pacers lost. Guys, that I was just like

725
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: the worst thing that you could do.

726
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Speaker 2: Hug is a guy that can't get no go ahead, So.

727
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Speaker 5: No proceed if you you you want to, you want

728
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 5: to sing to the national audience, that's what you want

729
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 5: to do with the with the remainings that we.

730
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Speaker 3: Have here minutes fits look, thank you, thank you. Look,

731
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: let's let's do America's favorite game show. It's we screwed

732
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Speaker 3: this up every time, but this time it's gonna be perfect.

733
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: Buck you're feeling good, you're feeling ready. No, but do

734
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: it anyway, it's time for woold you.

735
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: That's not clear?

736
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Speaker 4: Are you slow down?

737
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: I was watching your face?

738
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 4: No good?

739
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: Or fix it?

740
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Speaker 3: Oh you get it very clear, Bucket or fits it.

741
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: We don't want to screw any letters up there. Ian

742
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: give us the wind.

743
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta really enunciate there, just to make sure.

744
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 6: But all right, let's jump right in, guys. This act,

745
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 6: this first one I actually saw on TikTok like a

746
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 6: week ago, and I just had to write it down

747
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 6: to make sure that I got it to you guys,

748
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 6: because it made me laugh. Anyway, here we go. So,

749
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Speaker 6: would you rather object to every wedding that you attend

750
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Speaker 6: or have to take a selfie with the deceased at

751
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 6: every funeral you attend?

752
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 5: What the hell is your TikTok algan? What are you

753
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 5: doing in your free time?

754
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 4: Huh?

755
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 5: I would rather object at every wedding, I think, you know,

756
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: not just because it would be weird to take a

757
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 5: selfie with the deceased at a funeral, but because you know,

758
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 5: the divorce rate would tell us that the vast majority

759
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 5: of you probably don't need to be doing this anyway.

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Speaker 4: And I would.

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Speaker 5: Probably be doing a service if I decided that I'm

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Speaker 5: just going to be an objector a wedding objector for hire.

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Speaker 5: You can pay me, and I will come object to

764
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Speaker 5: a wedding that you don't think is going to work out,

765
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Speaker 5: and I will probably save both of you in the

766
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Speaker 5: process a great deal of money, because there's a good

767
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Speaker 5: percentage chance.

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Speaker 4: That you weren't going to be right for one another anyway.

769
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Speaker 5: Is that a too pessimistic of a look at things?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe, But it feels like it feels

771
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Speaker 5: like a more productive use of time.

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing I think Age pauls into this too, Like,

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Speaker 3: as I get older, I'm going to go to more

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Speaker 3: funerals than I am weddings, Like, so, god, you know,

775
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: I'm the number of times that I'm gonna have to

776
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: to selfie gets bigger and bigger as I get older,

777
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Speaker 3: And that looks weird, like when you're seventy, if you're

778
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: doing this for the rest of time. When you're seventy,

779
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: if you're taking selfie's at a funeral, that that comes

780
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: off weird. But if you're objecting in a wedding, now

781
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: you're just the funny old guy in the back of

782
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 3: the wedding, right, So it comes like a or something

783
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: like that.

784
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit. Everybody knows it's a bit.

785
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna object at every wedding as long as

786
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: I get to decide the objections. Like this gets really

787
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: tricky if you know somebody else gives me the reason

788
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm objecting.

789
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: That feels like an.

790
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: Impractical Jokers episode that needs to happen, Like, you know,

791
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: I want I want to I want Buck to have

792
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: to stand up in the back of the room and

793
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: say I object because your wife's not hot enough. Just

794
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: to see what happens.

795
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 5: Did you see, just quickly before we move on to

796
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 5: the next one, did you see that somebody in Vegas

797
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: and you're part of the world, hired one of their

798
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 5: buddies to prank the couple at a wedding by being

799
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 5: like doing this whole WWE promo of an objection, like

800
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 5: making it very, very uncomfortable and playing it out for

801
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 5: several minutes until they realized, oh no, this is a joke.

802
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. Continue with your wedding. It was very

803
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 4: comfort No, I love this.

804
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: This is that talk about a memorable wedding, all right?

805
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: And what's you got next for us?

806
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 6: All right, we're gonna go ahead and spin the wheel

807
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 6: for this next one. It was.

808
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: No production costs will be spared, all right.

809
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: It landed on this one.

810
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 6: So would you rather always get stuck behind slow walkers

811
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 6: or always hit every red light in the car?

812
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: Nothing?

813
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 3: So anyone that's listening in Nashville will know that there's

814
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: an area around Rivergate, all right, And when you go

815
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: through this area of Rivergate, there's a traffic light like

816
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: every I don't know mile met the most and none

817
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: of but but everybody knows what it's like to have

818
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: one every mile there's a light and none of them

819
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: are timed right, And so you know that you're just

820
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: like you're arbitrarily gonna hit the red over and over

821
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: and over again. That is I mean, that is my

822
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: personal hell. I'll set a slow walker. I'll mosey if

823
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: I have to the red light over and over and

824
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: over again, rage by the fourth one in a row.

825
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: We could not disagree more on this, I will I have.

826
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 5: It's as close as I've been to physically assaulting another

827
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: human being. Walk with a purpose, have somewhere to be.

828
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 5: What do you mean you're gonna take your time strolling down.

829
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 5: You don't have anywhere to be, You don't have anything

830
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 5: going on in your life that requires some level of urgency.

831
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 5: I swear to God, I hope you stub your toe

832
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 5: on every curve that you come across. If you are

833
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: somebody that does not move with a purpose, there is

834
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 5: nothing that pisses me off more than people that cannot

835
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: keep a reasonable pace. I don't care what your age is,

836
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 5: I don't care what you're looking at. If you're there to.

837
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: See the sites get out of the way or get

838
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: to the.

839
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 5: Side of the sidewalk to allow the rest of us

840
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: to keep moving. It's like the people that just stand

841
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 5: there on the moving walkways in the airport as opposed

842
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 5: to utilizing the moving walkway to move yet faster towards

843
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 5: their destination.

844
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: Why the hell don't you have somewhere to be move.

845
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 6: There's a guy on social media who just like, literally,

846
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 6: that's the whole stick is just bad walkers, And he

847
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 6: just commentates people that he gets stuck behind walking on

848
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 6: the streets.

849
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: It's all I'm so when.

850
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 5: I did not get to that, that that uh, that

851
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 5: opportunity first, because that I would have made so much money.

852
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 6: You next time I see one.

853
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: When I was a little kid in Vegas, the airport

854
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: McCarron Airport had the voice of fat Albert. H'm telling everybody,

855
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: so he always went, it's fat Albert reminding you if

856
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: you're not gonna move quick, stay to the right. It's

857
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: still stuck in my mind every time you hear the

858
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: voice of fat Albert, the cartoon version of fat Albert.

859
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: Not good, go ahead, not a problematic.

860
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: Problematic, Let's find the wheel again. Spin the wheel quickly fast?

861
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 6: All right? Would you rather have a nose that hawks

862
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 6: when you laugh or ears that flap when you get excited?

863
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: What are we dumble?

864
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: You can't have the ears that flap when you get excited,

865
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: because if you're going to do the hibbited dibity and

866
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: your ears start flapping, she's not going to be into

867
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: it anymore. And if you're not excited when you're doing

868
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: the hibbiting, like did you imagine late night you're like

869
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: hey baby, and all of a sudden your ears just

870
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: start going.

871
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: Can't do it?

872
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 5: Of all these different things that could move out of excitement,

873
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 5: I don't, but yeah, ears would be tough. I'd go

874
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 5: with the nose honk. I feel like I already honk

875
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 5: when I laugh.

876
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 3: Anyway, If your ears wiggle, you're never having the sex.

877
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Speaker 2: That's just the way it's going.

878
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 6: You never have it.

879
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: Can we get on more?

880
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: Can we talk with us sex?

881
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: All right? No wheel this time?

882
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Speaker 6: But would you rather be followed around by a mariachi

883
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 6: band for a week or have to narrate everything you

884
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 6: do out loud for a day?

885
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 5: Narrate everything out loud I do for a day. I

886
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 5: feel like I already do it.

887
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Speaker 4: That sounds easier anyway.

888
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't want to listen to you narrate

889
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 3: go to the bathroom, so give me the mariachi man.

890
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: At least it's a good performance. Hopefully this was a

891
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: good performance. We'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging out with those bucking fits.

893
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 4: See you