1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Unplugged. She's damned as 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: she does, and she's damned if she don't. Let's take 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: a second right now to have a moment of silence 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: for Washington Mystics owner Shelley Johnson, who suggested that the 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: WNBA as a whole should have been on the cover 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: of Time magazine instead of just Caitlyn Clark, who graced 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: the cover last week, which is probably some of the 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: stupidest shit I've ever heard. And that's no disrespect to 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: the ladies in the league, and we'll get to that, 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: but the Twitter community was quick to remind Shelley that 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: a majority of their success as far as attendance, came 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: from the Caitlyn Clark effect. Over thirty one percent of 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: the Mystic's entire attendance was in two games the Caitlin 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: team played against the Mystics. The Sparks, the Aces, the Mystic, 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: the Dream all moved games when Fever came in town 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: because of the attention that Caitlyn and her teammates have drawn. 17 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: That last season, Fever's jersey sales was up one thousand 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: percent and attendance was up two hundred and fifty percent 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: and they had the largest attendance on average per year, 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: just over seventeen thousand per game. Let me say this, 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark deserves all the flowers. I think she took 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot of shit and and a lot of skeptics 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: coming into the LIGA. She should like she had to 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: really prove herself, missed out on the Olympic opportunity, and 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: really had a lot of hard knocks early on in 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: the season where she was getting beat up and her 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: teammates were just watching her. I think the comraderie that 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: locker room grew and that team started playing together and 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: made the playoffs, made a nice little run and had 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: a solid season. In the article the Time article, Caitlin 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: obviously accepted the you know the honor, but Austly was 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: quick to pay homage to the black women of the 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: w's past who helped pave the way for herself today. 34 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: So Kaitlin is someone who has, if you look at it, 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: done everything you're supposed to do and has been criticized 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: along the every step of the way. Again, she's damned 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: if she does and she's damned if she doesn't. While 38 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: the NBA's ratings continue to drop over thirty percent as 39 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: they try to figure out who is going to feel 40 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the shoes of Lebron James, Kevin Durant, and Steph Curry. 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: The WNBA has a golden goose sitting in their league 42 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: and has done it's gotten better, but has done everything 43 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: to kind of discredit the momentum and eyeballs she's brought 44 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: to this game. And I'm not saying her alone because 45 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talented players. She is not the 46 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: best player in the in the league. I think obviously 47 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: that goes to Asia Wilson, who is a three time MVP, 48 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: and there's a ton of other very talented players. But 49 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: Caitlyn has brought a ton of new opportunity, a ton 50 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: of new eyeballs, and more money to the sport. So 51 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: instead of downplaying the magnitude of who she is and 52 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: what she's brought, enjoy the ride and take advantage of 53 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: the ride, and do everything you can do to show 54 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: the fan base why they should have been watching before 55 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Caitlyn came. Along with that said, let me welcome to 56 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: the show, my guy, Trevor Reza Trevor thoughts on the 57 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: impact that Caitlyn has made. 58 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: On the WNBA man first of all, she's she's unbelievable talent. 59 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: You know, the things that she's doing is is great 60 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: in her own right. She's creating her own space, her 61 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: own she's doing her own thing. But if we had 62 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: to compare from what we've seen from the NBA, it 63 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: would in her effect probably something similar to Larry Bird. 64 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: And you know, people want to bring race into it 65 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 2: or whatever. So if that's the case, I think Larry 66 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: Bird would be the best. 67 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there has been and and and we can 68 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: tap into it enough to cut you off, but there 69 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: has been because obviously, you know, Angel Reese also deserves 70 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, salute and respect for you know, 71 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: her finding, her laying and the audience and eyeballs she's brought. 72 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: But Angel has spoken up and talked about the racism 73 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: she's faced, you know, and I think there and I 74 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: think what's made this great crevice. Their storyline started in college, 75 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, I mean when they played against the National 76 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: Championship and Angel did her thing and and and held 77 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: the ring finger up and got a bunch of shit. 78 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: But it was just ship talking back and forth. Neither 79 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: of them, you know, had hard feelings of that, but 80 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, Caitlyn. I think they set the record with 81 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: nine point nine million, So I mean, I think they 82 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: started back in college, you know, with the National Championship 83 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: game in twenty twenty three, nearly ten million viewers. The 84 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Iowa South Carolina game was the first time the women's 85 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: game has ever had more eyeballs than the men's game. 86 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: You know, So this is something and what's made this great. 87 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: And I think what the NBA lacks the storylines. And 88 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: obviously Caitlyn coming in has a storyline, Angel coming in 89 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: has a storyline, and then as you follow the storylines, 90 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 1: you start to see all the talent in this league. 91 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're doing an amazing job with, like 92 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: you said, telling the story and the players are actually 93 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: doing their thing when they get there. Yes, you know, 94 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: like you mentioned these couple of players, but Caitlyn being 95 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: the one that we're speaking about right now, she is 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: kicking everybody's ass really or I won't say kicking everybody's ass, 97 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: but she's doing her things. 98 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: She told her as she's definitely holding you know, holding 99 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: her own her I mean, you look at it, and 100 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: it's similar to the stuff effect, you know what I mean, 101 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: the ability to shoot the ball, from anywhere is always 102 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna gain eyeballs. And I think, you know, obviously the 103 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: W is taking a hit because the the I want 104 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: to only say lack, but just the athleticism isn't there 105 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: like it is on the men's side. You know, although 106 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: there are some you know women dunking now, but the 107 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: ability to shoot that ball from deep has captured all 108 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: basketball by storm. 109 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: Well she's you mentioned Steph, and it took Steph a 110 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: couple of years to get to that point, yep, and 111 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: she's coming in and doing it as a rookie. So 112 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: you know, her following the machine of college and everything 113 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: that she's bringing to the game has been great for 114 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: the game, especially because years prior to their league wasn't 115 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: doing as well as far as revenue, and now it's 116 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: starting to catch up and do the things that you know. 117 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: We hoped that it would do. 118 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: As we all now we're starting to support women's sports. 119 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: When you see the people say it's not just her, 120 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: there's other players, and again we're not destructed. We understand 121 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: that the depth of talent in that league, but when 122 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: you also see the numbers that back up the fact 123 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: that Caitlyn has a huge effect Kaitlin Clark is responsible 124 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: for nearly twenty seven percent of the WNBA's league wide 125 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: activity in twenty twenty four, including attendance. One in six 126 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: tickets sold to the WNBA arena attributed to Caitlin Clark. 127 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: TV viewership was up three TV viewership was up three 128 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent with Caitlin Clark. The league's merchandise sale jumped 129 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: nearly five hundred percent with Caitlin Clark ranking number one. 130 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously surrounded with all the hype and all 131 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: the talent and all the hate, do you see any 132 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: similarities of when Caitlyn's come in the league to back 133 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: when Broun. I think you were in college back then, right. 134 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in college. Roan came into you. But 135 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: we're the same high school years. So Bron has been 136 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: he's been, This has been who he's been since high school. So, 137 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: you know, not as timing. Know now that social media 138 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: is like huge, I think it makes it really, really 139 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: really big, But that was like a legend because it 140 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: was TV, right or news newspaper. Yeah, you know, so 141 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: it's different. So I believe Bron's thing was a bit 142 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: you know, bigger, because it's more like a. 143 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: Legend old school. Yeah yeah. And with the. 144 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: Social media thing it, you know, everybody could just pick 145 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: their phone up. Everybody has the phone, everybody has social media, 146 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: so you know, and whatever that engine is, you can 147 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: just click on it it or show up in your algorithm. So, 148 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: you know, I think that the push is different, maybe 149 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: the different eras, but I guess it would be. 150 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: The same, similar, similar to just the manitude and the 151 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: attention the game has brought, probably the hate both of 152 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: them have faced. But you know, I wish you're nothing 153 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: but the best. I wish the league nothing but the best. 154 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: I think they're on a great although they still lost 155 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: money this year. I think that is going to start 156 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: to change as the game continues to grow. These players 157 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: be continue to get more attention and obviously honoring the 158 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: women that came before the sheryff swoops to Tina Thompkins 159 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: and Lisa Leslie's, you know, the Don Staleys, all these 160 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: ladies that kind of helped put this women's game on 161 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: the map professionally in the United States. And this is 162 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: where the Angel Reeses and the Caitlyn Clarks and you know, 163 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: you look at the great Diana Tarassi, you know, Asia 164 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Wilson who just signed a nice, big old deal with Nike. Congratulations. 165 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, they continue to push the game to the 166 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: next level, you know, and you look at where the 167 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: NBA was and now where the NBA is at now, 168 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and although everyone doesn't agree with the style of play, 169 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: these guys have taken it to the next level as 170 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: far as the business of basketball. And I think that's 171 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: what Caitlyn will affect as the business of women's basketball. Man, 172 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: So we wish them the best. Uh, definitely excited to 173 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: see uh these upcoming seasons and these women continue to 174 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: do their thing. We had Keyon Dooling, one of your 175 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: former teammates on the show last week, and he just 176 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: had a crazy, crazy interview overall, but his story about 177 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: this NBA health health healthcare fraud that happened and he 178 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: had to sit down for a minute. We just saw, 179 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, Glenn Davis, you know, just sat down and 180 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I think he's down for a little over three years. Uh. 181 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this clip. A bunch of 182 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: NBA brothers went down with the health insurance situation. Our 183 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: brother Glenn Davis, yeah, just sat down and a few 184 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: other people. But talk to us about how that came 185 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: about across your plate and and why you chose to 186 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: participate in it. 187 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 188 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: So, you know, I try to be very clear on 189 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 4: the fact that it was just a bad judgment. It 190 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: was a mistake, it was greed, It was trying to 191 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: you know, navigate in a in the wrong way. You know, 192 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: I didn't wait on God for opportunities, you know what 193 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying to open up for me. I saw not 194 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: even an opportunity. I won't call it an opportunity, you know, 195 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: I saw a lick, so to speak. Right, Obviously, we 196 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: had the supplemental supplemental Benefits card. You know, if you 197 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: played long enough, you have a lot of money on 198 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: that card. And that's supposed to be for you know, 199 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: medical dental vision. 200 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: Not only you, but your family, yep, and your. 201 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 4: Family, and you know, if you don't use it, you 202 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: lose it. And I saw it sitting there, and I saw, 203 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: you know, it's a it's a it's a brotherhood. 204 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: Lead or whatever. 205 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: And I'm not pointing a finger at anybody, but I 206 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: got exposed to it. You know, cash was moving around 207 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: doing that, and I decided to do it. And man, 208 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: one of the worst, not one of the worst the 209 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: worst decision I made in my entire life, and you know, 210 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: I embrace it. You know, I'm apologetic for it, and 211 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, that's why I'm open 212 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: to speaking about it, right, because I don't want anybody 213 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: else to put themselves in harm's way. I don't want 214 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: anybody to bite that apple from that tree in any way, 215 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: shape or form. And so I decided to do it 216 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: and made that mistake, but I did my time for it. 217 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: Did eighteen months in federal custody, ten months in six 218 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: months halfway house, two months home confinement, and I'm here right. 219 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 1: So, Trevor, you know, we've heard the horror stories of 220 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: back when we were in the league, and you know 221 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: how older players have, you know, mismanaged money and not 222 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: done well for themselves. And I think as the game 223 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: has progressed, the business of basketball has grown, financial literacy 224 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: has grown, and now obviously the money these younger players 225 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: are making, they have to find something to do with it, 226 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: you know. But our era was I think I want 227 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: to say the last air because I think every air 228 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: is going to have a few people. But you know, 229 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: guys hit hard times. You've been someone who under the 230 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: radar has been very active in investing and taking care 231 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: of your money. And what am I resisting temptations? I'm 232 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: not saying you haven't have fun, but you've been really 233 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: smart with your money. What if some advice you would 234 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: give to younger players or even older players that are 235 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: on their way out that didn't really catch this wave 236 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: of crazy money, right? 237 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: I guess the advice that I would give. 238 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: Again, everybody has their own lane, everybody has their own 239 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: things that they believe in, what they principled in. But no, 240 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,479 Speaker 2: it's the most important word. 241 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: Even to your family. And that's the hardest know you 242 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: ever have to say. 243 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: For sure, not just you know, you got to teach 244 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: people exactly what money means and how to use it. 245 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: I would know who would guess, but you know, kind 246 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: of You don't have to impress nobody. Nobody is wanting 247 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: to be impressed. Anything that you want comes with hard 248 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: work and how you treat people. Actually, money really doesn't 249 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: really do anything. It's the relationships that you build and 250 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: how you know, how you manage and take care of 251 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: those relationships. 252 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: I think you touched on something which is huge today 253 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: is trying to impress people. We live in a social 254 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: media world where you see a lot of fake. The 255 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: fake is real, and the fronting is real, and the 256 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: bullshit is real, and people are chasing after something that's 257 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: not even true. 258 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: Man. 259 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, all you guys, man, it was up and down. 260 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: You know, my first handful years, I spoke on this openly, 261 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: like I was broke at the end every summer. And 262 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't even that I was doing crazy shit. I 263 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: just wasn't really making the money you think we That 264 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: shit is forty percent off the rip, especially if you 265 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: live in Cali. They taking that shit, So it's not 266 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: necessarily what you see. So man, take care of your money, 267 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: understand your money, make your money work for you. And yet, 268 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: like Trev said, one of the most important things is 269 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: being able to say no, and that shit ain't easy. 270 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: Trav Zion, the word is trade talks are on the table. 271 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: For Zion, six year in New Orleans, has played under 272 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: thirty games the last three seasons. He's on pace to 273 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: do that again this year. They're five and twenty two. 274 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: They were projected to win forty six games this year. 275 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels was recently traded to the Atlanta Hawks, and 276 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: he said that organization is cursed. I'm so happy I'm 277 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: not there anymore. You played there. Thoughts on the organization 278 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: and is it time for Zion to just get a 279 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: new start. And we're not saying that the organization is 280 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: the reason why he's not playing, but sometimes people need. 281 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: A fresh start. 282 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: It is probably time for fresh start for him, you know, 283 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: like you said that he hasn't played over thirty games 284 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: and all three seasons. 285 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: But it's crazy to think that this is your six. 286 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so half of his career he's been. He's 287 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: played under thirty games, and you know, for competitors or 288 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: people that I love to play the game, which I'm 289 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: sure he is, that's got to be frustrating for him. 290 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: So a fresh start, fresh medical staff, a as training staff, 291 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: new people that you see every day, that could reignite 292 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: something for him. 293 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: Because we expect a lot from. 294 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: Him as fans, as you know, colleagues of his, we 295 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: expect him to, you know, to do great things in 296 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: this league. And you know, although we've had small sample 297 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: sizes of what he can do, we expect more and 298 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: for more games. 299 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: How much of this is on him, though, obviously we 300 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: can say because you know, Baron Davis played there nearly 301 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, and he said, you know, they don't 302 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: care about winning or the health of their players. They're 303 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: kind of like the JV team. They share the same 304 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: resources as the Saints and you know, the Pelicans to 305 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: get the leftovers. With that said, because I played for 306 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: the Clippers when the Clippers were a dog shit organization. 307 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: We used to practice Southwest College and we used to 308 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: leave the back doors open so people wouldn't break in 309 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: our cars. Like there's the organization is supposed to supposed 310 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: to set the tone, but when they don't set the tone, 311 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: it's a different story. But how much is obviously him 312 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: kind of really locking in and buying it. I mean 313 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: this this off season, we saw he had slimmed up 314 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: and it looked like he was really in shape. But 315 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, how much is this is on Zion too. 316 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: You got to get on the court and find a 317 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: way to stay on that court, right. 318 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: He definitely has to take accountability of, you know, taking 319 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: care of his body or taking or using the resources 320 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: that you know are available to him, especially the older players. 321 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: When you see players like you know that have the 322 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: bigger bill, that's able to play for a long, long 323 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: period of time, and then we got anomaly in bron 324 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: who's played for ever and he has played know over 325 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: way over thirty games and. 326 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: You know, high minutes. 327 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: So you know, he got to take responsibility and not 328 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: using his resources and finding out what he needs to 329 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: do to get himself better. And since I've been you know, 330 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: I've played in New Orleans for two seasons and we 331 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: used to play at the Ilario Center, which was trash. 332 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: It wasn't up to par for NBA standards for sure, 333 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: nicely put. 334 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 335 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: When I guess I was a part of the team 336 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: that the owner lost the team, so we were owned 337 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: the team owned by the NBA. Right, So, yeah, the 338 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: team has gone through some struggles and it's had some 339 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: fuckedi times, but once the Benson family got a part 340 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: of it, that the stuff got better. 341 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: And the Benson family is a team that owns. 342 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's going on with them now, but yeah, 343 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, when I was there, I've seen the transition. 344 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: I hope. So man, again, like you said, we've seen 345 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: flashes of Zion's greatness and you know, the double double 346 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: machines and the records and the field goal percentages he 347 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: was breaking, and we just haven't got to see enough 348 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: of him, so we hope that he can either figure 349 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: it out there. But again, like Tramp says, sometimes a 350 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: chain of scenery is needed. And now that he's on 351 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: the trade table, man, there ain't no telling. 352 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you. But I think and I feel 353 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: like a lot of teams are missing. It's really good 354 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: vets b been through experiences and has been around the 355 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: league for a while or seeing what other players have 356 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: done that are similar. 357 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: And even if they can't contribute on the court, they 358 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: contribute so much off the court. I mean, you saw 359 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: what Miami did with you Donnas and obviously what Golden 360 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: State did with you know, Iguodala. Outside of letting them 361 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: go then coming back, that's are important. And I think 362 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: the league is so young now that you know everything 363 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: is you know, must perform type situations. But when when 364 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: I came to the league, there was thirty seven, thirty 365 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: eight forty year old dudes that some played, some didn't, 366 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: but they were so instrumental to the team and helping people, 367 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: being bridges between the coaching staff and the players and 368 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: just kind of giving you game and life and breathing 369 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: on you as they would saying I definitely think the 370 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: league as a whole. Uh missus that if they designated 371 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: just one more roster spot to vets, but. 372 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: They better fucking figure it out. 373 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: They got to shit, the got too. They got to man. 374 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: The ratings are down people, you know, they think it's 375 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: bad basketball. You have to jump on every streaming service 376 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: to catch different games, or just they make it hard 377 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: to watch basketball and hard to like the game, right, 378 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I love the game, but I'm be honest, 379 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: I really haven't really been paying attention that much this season. 380 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: I'll start paying attention a little bit later. Obviously I 381 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: follow sports and I'll catch a game here and there, 382 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: but I haven't really been locked in on it, just 383 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: because it's not exciting to me right now. 384 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: What's the storyline? Yeah, what's the drama? What's the feel 385 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: good stories? Worthy things? 386 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Who's next? 387 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 3: Who's next? 388 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: Like, who's gonna step out there? 389 00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Is it? 390 00:20:59,680 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Ant? 391 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 3: Is it? Jie? 392 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: Is it? 393 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: Is it? Luca? Is it? 394 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: Tatum? Is it? By committee? 395 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 5: Like? 396 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: There's just so much unknown to a game we loved, 397 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: in a game where it was so popping back when 398 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: we played it. It's crazy I saw stat was it? 399 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: Did anyone else see it? 400 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: Like? 401 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: Since twenty twelve, viewership is down like in the forties, 402 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: like forty percent overall game. 403 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: Who's the villain back to the community is shit. 404 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: I was a villain right now. 405 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 5: League is the new ship, the ship that we loved 406 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 5: and grew up and was by committee. We didn't start 407 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 5: putting like these seven stars or like the face of 408 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 5: the league like he used to be one or two. 409 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: It used to be about. 410 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: Teams, Yeah, Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, and they had their individual personalities. 411 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 3: Now I feel like it's more individual. 412 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's because I think, not to cut you off, 413 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I think it's because there is no stars are freedom 414 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: to move, and I think Aman Shepard spoke on this 415 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: in someone's podcast the other day, and I don't know 416 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: the exact words I'm paraphrasing, but he said something to 417 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: the fact that you know that the bron I don't 418 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: know if you said ruin, but he's the first superstar 419 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: obviously to jump to make other stars think it's okay. 420 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: So to your point, it's not like you root for 421 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: teams anymore because guys aren't there long enough to really root. 422 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: There's a handful of that. You know, you look at 423 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: staff obviously, and and Tatum on his and but stars 424 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: are moving around, which is in some aspects cool, but 425 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: in some aspects kind of lose your I'm I'm a 426 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: Cavs fan because Bron's been there his whole career. I'm 427 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: a Laker fan because Kobe's been their his whole career, 428 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. That you just don't 429 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: really have that no more. Well, someone that will be 430 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: the number one pick, not this draft, but yeah, in 431 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: two years, ajdbansa n I l crazy bag seven million 432 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: to go to BYU. He'll only be in school for 433 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: probably four to six months. Trevor, I know you've seen 434 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: him play, but thoughts on on on just can you 435 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: imagine going you could use only UCLA for one year? 436 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: Could you imagine for the six months use at UCLA? 437 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: If they gave you seven minut to go there? Man, 438 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: would you have made it? I for sure would have 439 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: made it. 440 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: But man, that's a good point you bring up, because 441 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 2: I guess it all just depends on what your goals 442 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: are and what your focus in your circle. In your circle, 443 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: and if your goal is to max out in the nil, 444 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: then you know you're selling yourself short, especially if it's 445 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: only for one year. If you have potential to be, 446 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: you know, make seven million dollars in one year, that 447 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: means the potential of the crazy that you are crazy 448 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: you making a million dollars, fifty or sixty million dollars 449 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: a year. 450 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 451 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: And again when you look at how much money the 452 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 2: players are making and where you know the salary cap 453 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: is going and where the max is going. Players got 454 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: a chance to make seven hundred million dollars, So that 455 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: would be That's the goal I would try to push 456 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: to my kids. 457 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: That's in that space. 458 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean as a father, as who has a son 459 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: who is one of the top ten juniors in the 460 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: country who I'm sure nil is. How do you keep Taj? 461 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean we've heard Gil with Arena speak on this 462 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: and how he's kind of keeping the nil away from 463 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: Elijah and then trying to keep that focus. Sometimes that's 464 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: easier said than done. How have you been able to 465 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: help Taj navigate you know what this new basketball because 466 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: the startom is starting so much earlier now and obviously 467 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: the money is pouring in now. 468 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: Too well as as like Taj experiences journey, he's starting 469 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: to experience more and more people pulling at him. My 470 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: message is always going to be the same. Shut everybody out, 471 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: focus on your goals, focus on getting better every single day. 472 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: Only work on your game, and work on and pay 473 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: attention to school. Everything that you want will come with 474 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: you putting the work in to what you're doing, the 475 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 2: things that you love to do. You know, try to 476 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: sharpen up on your tools and your skills, make yourself 477 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: a better person. And by time you look up, you 478 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: don't even know what's going on. You already killing the 479 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: game doing things that you just love to do. But 480 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: just pour it into yourself, point to the game and 481 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: everything else to take care of it. 482 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: So keep the first thing first. Yeah, if for guys 483 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: that and I think you funny. It was interesting what 484 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: you said, you know, max out in the nil space 485 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: for these guys that don't have guidance and leadership. You know, 486 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: I didn't come from a family had any money, so 487 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: you know most of us came from that. So you know, 488 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: can these kids keep the focus, the drive, and the 489 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: dedication they need with no real guidance around them. You 490 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: got to think I remember getting the little twenty five 491 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: hundred dollars pail grand three thousand dollars grand in West. 492 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: But you and you couldn't tell me nothing, you know 493 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I couldn't imagine having a half 494 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: a million, you know, one point two one point three 495 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: as a seventeen, eighteen, nineteen year old kid with no 496 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: real guidance, Like I wonder that the long term effects. 497 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Are we going to see a lot of burnouts? Are 498 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: we going to see a lot of bus because everything 499 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: that these kids are getting now we had to fight 500 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: for and didn't get to the league. If we got 501 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: it before, we risked our whole careers. 502 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 3: Well, we've seen it with some players. 503 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: Mike we see them. I think Mikey was one of 504 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: the first imani Bates. Some of these guys were some 505 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: of these first nil guys and you see his talented there. 506 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: They still haven't really cracked that and got to that 507 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: next level obviously. Then is in the G League. 508 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 2: We also seen players get to get the money and 509 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: do well too, like LaMelo. You know LaMelo, I remember 510 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: bro driving Lambos and all that grade or. 511 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: Or you know that whatever years he was driving, was 512 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: moving very professionally and he's murdering Pops was on his 513 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: ask though. Yeah, guy, Plus he also have brothers. You 514 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: know that was paving the way for him. So it 515 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: just depends on again, what your goal is, who are 516 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: you competing with? And you know, like Doling used to say, 517 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: what's driving you? What is your what is your driving force? 518 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: I just wonder what the future college basketball is going 519 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: to because it used to be muskwatch TV, march manags 520 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: used to be the shit, and it's still cool, but 521 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: it's just not what it was because there's so many 522 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: other avenues now for kids to be one and done 523 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: or go overseas for a year and get to the league. 524 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: I think everyone's in such a hurry to get to 525 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: the NBA when they're not necessarily ready. But on the 526 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: flip side, I fought the NBA because it used to 527 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: be a little bit of potential and a lot of talent. 528 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: Now it's purely potential. They draft off like they're drafting 529 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: kids that are averaging six points and five rebounds in 530 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: the top ten now, or they've played overseas and it's 531 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: certain like they haven't proven it yet, And I think 532 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: everyone in such a hurry to get there when they're 533 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: not ready. And that's why I feel like, and I 534 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: say there's all due respect, because there's a ton of talent. 535 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: I think this generation will be the biggest bust because 536 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot of these kids are going too early and 537 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: then they can use another year or two under their belt. 538 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, you look at Bronnie and I'm not saying 539 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: Bronnie's going to be bust. We don't know what Brini's 540 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: going to be. But Brinnie could have definitely been in 541 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: front of it from another year at USC or even two. 542 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: Amani Baits could have spent some more time, you know. 543 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: So it's just like there's a lot of these kids 544 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: that are so fast to get there, and the NBA 545 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: is a welcoming matt and then at once you get there, 546 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: you were like, oh shit, this is real. Yeah, and 547 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: no one can hold my hand no more. 548 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: Nah, No one definitely is holding your hand because everybody 549 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: is professional, so everybody is competing for those spots, and 550 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: if the turnover is so fast, you're not getting a 551 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: chance to actually get a chance to develop because potential 552 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: only lasts for so for so long. And these young 553 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: boys are you know, they're they're they're coming in really 554 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: young with the young mentality, and once you come to 555 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: a professional space, nobody is really holding your hand like 556 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 2: that no more. 557 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna let you fuck up until you fuck yourself 558 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: up exactly. 559 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: So just getting people around you in your corner that's 560 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: going to keep you accountable to to growing and growth 561 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: is uncomfortable all the time. So if you stay in 562 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: a comfortable space, you're not really growing. 563 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: Trip, man, We appreciate your time. Thanks for stopping by. 564 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: Man. 565 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you. 566 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: Soon for sure. 567 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: Yep, right now, I love to introduce mss Bella Ivory. 568 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: She's a teacher at Beverly Hills High School. Her lawyer, Brad, 569 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: and a concerned parent. They had an incident about a 570 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: month ago, now six weeks ago. 571 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 6: It's been a little bit over a month. 572 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: Yet a little bit over a month ago that I 573 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: saw on social media when Trump was declared the next president, 574 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: and it was probably leading up to this is just 575 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: what I saw on social media. Kids were storming the 576 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: halls with Trump flags and harassing, intimidating, shouting slurs and 577 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: really kind of just running amok. And I saw it 578 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: on social media and I sent it to my assistant 579 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: and I was just like, I need to find this 580 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: teacher and shout out Pharah. Within like three hours, she 581 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: had found some information on her and we connected. And 582 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: I think the reason why this touched me was because 583 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, I've talked about BEFOREMS on my shows. I 584 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: faced a lot of racism in high school with the 585 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: KKK burning down bathrooms and hanging mannequins and swastika. So 586 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: I have a soft spot in my heartfor situations like this, 587 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: and when I saw this situation, I immediately wanted to 588 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: connect and help any way possible. So we're here today 589 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: to kind of let my audience know and put more 590 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: light on what's been going on pretty much right under 591 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: our nose. So Bella, I want to give you the 592 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: floor and just kind of explain what's been going on 593 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: that day, if there was stuff leading up to that, 594 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: and currently what's going. 595 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 6: On well leading up to it. It's been a problem. 596 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: It was already a problem at the school February twenty 597 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 6: twenty two, I had students with me being the only 598 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 6: black female teacher at the school, and it's been like 599 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 6: that whole time I've been there since twenty twenty. But 600 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 6: in twenty two I sent an email to the principle 601 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 6: and I told them we have a diversity issue because 602 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 6: the kids were coming to me there were, you know, 603 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 6: disclosing things that was happening to them within the classroom 604 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 6: and just around campus. So it's been going on. It's 605 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 6: been lingering for a while. It's just gotten progressively worse 606 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 6: and leading up to the fifth of November, that's when 607 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 6: the incident happened with me and I had seven other 608 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 6: black kids in the room with me, and I guess 609 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 6: there was some type of Trump rallies or whatever going 610 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 6: on campus. I was not privy to that information. I 611 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 6: didn't know that was going on. So me and the 612 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 6: seven black students were sitting in my classroom. 613 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: Is this lunchtime or during class? 614 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 6: Okay, during lunchtime, so we were sitting in they were 615 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 6: having lunch. 616 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: That's a pretty common thing. Like we talked off camera 617 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: that very few black teachers there, but you're one of 618 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: the ones they feel safe and comfortable with. So your 619 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: room is kind of a hangout spot. 620 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, okay, and not just for the black kids, but 621 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 6: for all kids, but in general. But I was I 622 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 6: started heading the VSU, which is Black student union, last year, 623 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 6: so this was my second year doing it. So of 624 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 6: course I've gotten a whole lot more close with those kids. 625 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 6: So they were they came in. They had a little 626 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 6: pot luck the week before. I was not there. I 627 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 6: was sick. They were telling me what happened. So during 628 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 6: the potluck, while they were having their potluck, it was 629 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 6: kids coming in. Just they came in, they bombarded their potluck, 630 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 6: was taking their food. And so I told all the 631 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 6: other students, Okay, we're going to have a conversation. I'm 632 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 6: going to close the room off and let's talk about it, 633 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 6: and you guys tell me what happened. I saw closed 634 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 6: the door. When my door was closed, it all the way. 635 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 6: It locks. So we're in there talking and all of 636 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 6: a sudden, close to the end of lunch, we started 637 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 6: hearing noise outside the door, and I was like, what's 638 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 6: going on? So I ran to the door because where 639 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 6: my desk is, I can't see the door. There's a 640 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 6: window in the door. Ran to the door and I'm 641 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 6: looking out the door and I see a bunch of kids, 642 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 6: a bunch of white faces outside the door and they're 643 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 6: just screaming, you know, f kamala. And someone banged on 644 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 6: the door. That's what really got me to get up 645 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 6: and say what's going on? After I heard the voices, 646 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 6: soone banged on the door. Then I heard someone try 647 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 6: to open the door to come in. So I ran 648 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 6: to the door to look what was going on and 649 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 6: it was just a bunch of kids, a mob of 650 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 6: kids outside my door. And so the kids that was 651 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 6: with me in the room, I did not realize that 652 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 6: they came and ran behind me and was looking outside 653 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 6: the door too, and so we heard another pale on 654 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 6: the door. So I was holding tightly onto the handle 655 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 6: of the door, and one of the girls said miss pella, 656 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 6: miss pella, please don't open the door. So when I 657 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 6: turned around, I saw the kids behind me and I said, okay, 658 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 6: I said, I'm not going to open the door, don't worry, 659 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 6: and she yells out, oh my gosh, they look like KKK. 660 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 6: And I said, don't worry. I'm not going to open 661 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 6: the door. And so the kids start walking and I'm like, 662 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 6: and I'm looking out the door, I'm like, what is 663 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 6: going on? I saw a teacher, I saw security guards, 664 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 6: and at the end behind the mob of kids, I 665 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 6: saw the principal. So I'm like, what in the world 666 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 6: is going on here? So after that happened, if you 667 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 6: see the footage, the camera footage, because there's a camera 668 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 6: a security camera right above my door. I waited for 669 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 6: a minute. I opened the door for a second. I 670 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 6: looked out of closed the door again because the kids 671 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 6: were like, please, don't open the door. I said, you 672 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 6: guys are gone. I'm gonna outside and see what's going on. 673 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 6: So I went outside. There was another student out there 674 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 6: and he was recorded. I asked him, I said, did 675 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 6: you see what happened? He said, I recorded. He said, 676 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 6: do you want to see me? I said yeah, I said, 677 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 6: can you send me that to me? And so that's 678 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 6: what happened that day. 679 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: So you saw a teacher, you saw security, saw the 680 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: principal behind the kids. You've obviously taken your issues up 681 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: with the school, and you've spoken to administration and kind of, 682 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: you know, said what you've been seeing and feeling, and 683 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: how's that been met? 684 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 6: There was nothing. It was dad silence from twenty twenty 685 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 6: two up until the school year. So I don't nobody 686 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 6: approached me, nobody said anything about it. I said something 687 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 6: about it again. Actually last year, at the beginning of 688 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 6: the school year. Last year, I bought it to I 689 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 6: actually first told him man. I bought it to the 690 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 6: attention of the district. The following year. I mean last year, 691 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 6: at the beginning of last school year, still nothing. 692 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: So these aren't necessarily isolated, and so this kind of 693 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: seems like just the environment you're in. I mean, we 694 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: were talking before and one of my producers, his son 695 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: has faced this, and he's been talking to us in 696 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: a group, and I learned like there's nigger passes, Like 697 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: they go around asking black children, can I have a 698 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: nigger pass? And most of them kind of unreally knowing 699 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: what it is or not wanting to stir stuff up, 700 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: kind of nod the head. And now these white kids 701 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: and Persian kids are freely just saying nigger anywhere. There's 702 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: swastikas found in the bathroom, and what it was? 703 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 6: A swasaga on my desk. 704 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: A swaska on your desk. 705 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 6: I wanted, not my desk, but one of the in 706 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 6: your classroom, one of. 707 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: Those tables in right now, I want to bring a 708 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: concerned parent who has a student at the school who 709 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: has obviously faced some of this, and told me a 710 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: very interesting story about polling middle school kids and who 711 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: they voted for and if you voted for if you 712 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: didn't vote for Trump, it was an issue, So speak 713 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: to kind of the experience as a parent, someone who 714 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: actually graduated from the school in the late eighties, but 715 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: now as a parent with a student there and your 716 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: concern level. 717 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 7: So at the middle school, it has been brought to 718 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 7: our attention that kids were polling as they were coming 719 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 7: to school after election to see who voted for Trump, 720 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 7: and if you said anything other than Trump, the kids 721 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 7: were kicked, slapped, they were basically assaulted. Some kids in 722 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 7: fear of seeing what happened to the other kids lie 723 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 7: so that they wouldn't get hit. But then there was 724 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 7: also the whole isolation. Oh, you can't sit here, you know, 725 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 7: just total, total, just chaos and these kids can't even vote. 726 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 7: Is coming from that home, This is coming from the household, 727 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 7: and it seems to be okay. It's common nature as 728 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 7: we see that incidents are happening at both the middle 729 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 7: school and the high school, and there are some rare 730 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 7: incidences even at the elementary school. 731 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: So this is a district. This is a district, So 732 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: this is bigger than just these three middle school, elementary 733 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: and high school. This is a bigger issue overall. 734 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 7: You feel it's a Beverly Hills community issue, It's a 735 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 7: PD issue. Brad can speak to that. But there are 736 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 7: over one hundred concerned parents of all races that have 737 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 7: come together and addressed the district in a letter, and 738 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 7: we're still waiting for a proper. 739 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: Response, Brad. So now this has turned into a case. 740 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 1: I know Bell and I have been speaking a little 741 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: bit of at the journey of the case and the 742 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: school's stance on her and really trying to discredit everything 743 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: she's seen and heard and the students have said, So 744 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: speak to me currently where you guys are at and 745 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: kind of your guys's plan of action. 746 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 8: Sure, we start with a governmental claim that's the precursor 747 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 8: to a lawsuit. We filed that. I now have three 748 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 8: different black teachers who have come to me for representation. 749 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: From the school from Beverly Hills High School, and there 750 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: isn't too many black teachers there right, I have most 751 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: of them, more than half. 752 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 8: And about the parents of about ten different black students 753 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 8: have also spoken to me about the problems that their 754 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 8: kids are facing, being called racist terms, being physically attacked 755 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 8: and threatened as well. So this is a very serious problem. 756 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 8: The school has been aware of this for many years, 757 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 8: and the district has been aware of it, but they 758 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 8: don't take any action. So what happens is it keeps escalating. Now, 759 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 8: schools are where children learn how to behave as good 760 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 8: model citizens. You would think that Beverly Hill's school district 761 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 8: would want to teach their children. You don't say these terms. 762 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 8: Everyone is equal. Racism is wrong. But when they take 763 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 8: no action, when they deny it, the school is saying 764 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 8: everything is okay to do racism, and it breeds hatred 765 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 8: and it turns children that could be saved into racist adults, 766 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 8: which has all kinds of problems for society. 767 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: It's so wrong. I mean, I think, obviously we all know, 768 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: being parents and teachers, this is a learned trait. Just 769 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: as love is taught, hate is taught well and obviously 770 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: I think it starts in the home, and then, like 771 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: you said, if it's not met with any kind of repercussion, 772 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: it continues to fester until it really turns into something 773 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: a belief. Again, I wanted to have you guys come 774 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: and speak today because there needs to be something done 775 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: about this. 776 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 8: And you know, it's not just the school in the 777 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 8: city of Beverly Hills. I happen to be representing one 778 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 8: thousand and eighty five black individuals that have been racially 779 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 8: profiled by the police department too. 780 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm doing that Hills. 781 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 8: We have two different class actions now. And what happened 782 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 8: is ninety two percent of the people arrested on this 783 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 8: task force were black in a city that's less than 784 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 8: two percent black. Wow, and you've got one thousand and 785 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 8: eighty eight black people were arrested in a two year period. 786 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 8: Only three of them had any criminal conviction or plea deals. 787 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 8: So everybody else was arrested, put in jail for a 788 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 8: driving wall black and then they were just let go. 789 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 8: So it was clearly an attempt by the city. 790 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: To keep black black people at it right. 791 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 8: And the school is just more of that same symptoms. 792 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 3: So it's a big problem. 793 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 8: That's why this is we're so passionate. My law for 794 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 8: Brad Cage law is so passionate about going after them. 795 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: I got to connect with my guy. I always filmed 796 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: the police and he's been Uh, he's actively in Beverly Hills, 797 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: white guy who is debunks everything. He's talking shit to 798 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: police in their face and not even in a negative way, 799 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,959 Speaker 1: just kind of reminding them like what you're doing is wrong. 800 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: He's always filming them and it's a really interesting guy 801 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: who's drawn a lot of attention, so we definitely have 802 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: to talk to him. But Bella, before we get you 803 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: guys out of here, how has this been for you personally? 804 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: Obviously teaching is something you love to do with your passion. 805 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: You told me you're not sure if you're even gonna 806 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: most likely return there. So what has this been like daily? 807 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: Since it's really kind of hit and went public. 808 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 6: It's been hard. It's been really hard. It's I've been 809 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 6: attacked like endlessly, emails and emails. I've got a death 810 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 6: threat in my school email address. It's been very hard. 811 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 6: Would I go back if it was just going to 812 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 6: be me and the kids and doing what I've been doing? 813 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 6: Of course, I love what I do. I'm not a 814 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 6: teacher by trade. I didn't go to school. I went 815 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 6: to school to be a fashion designer. So that's what 816 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 6: I've done. And so then I bought the fashion design 817 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 6: program too, I wrote I started that program. Everything before me, 818 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 6: it was no fashion design program at Beverly Hill. So 819 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 6: it's my baby. But because the climate is it's. 820 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: So dire, I just to the point where it's unsafe. 821 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 6: It's very unsafe. My son. He's in the middle school 822 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 6: and he's been homeschool now because I'm afraid for his safety. 823 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 6: So I just feel like, if they can't protect the 824 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 6: kids that I love at the school that aren't my kids, 825 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 6: but there are my kids because I love them, how 826 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 6: are they going to protect my child as a parent. 827 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: Who still has a young son there, Like, what are 828 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: your guys' conversations day to day? Is he scared? 829 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 7: Like, So we've talked about leaving the district because we're 830 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 7: new to the district and I would have never enrolled 831 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 7: my child if I had any inclination that this was 832 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 7: the climate that I was bringing him into. In fact, 833 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 7: I asked the principle, how many you know black parents, 834 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 7: how many black kids? How many black teachers? And I 835 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 7: feel like I was misled in that in that I 836 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 7: was told by even the parent ambassadors who do the tour. 837 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 1: All your kid will be fine. 838 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 7: I made it very clear I am concerned about my 839 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 7: kid being in a diverse and inclusive environment. I'm okay 840 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 7: with him being a minority as long as this a 841 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 7: collective environment. And I think I was misled, completely misled. 842 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 7: So we've been having conversations about what it looks like 843 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 7: to you know, to go somewhere else. 844 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: His grades dropped. 845 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 7: Even his algebra teacher said that she saw a decline 846 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 7: in his grades. And it's not just my child, it's 847 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 7: all the kids that are struggling fight or flight. There's 848 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 7: kids who have been physically attacking or hiding in bathrooms 849 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 7: because they don't want to engage, or they'll go to 850 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 7: get counseling, but the counselors don't look like our kids. 851 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 7: So it's a constant conversation. It's the middle of the 852 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 7: school year. We just want the district to do what 853 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 7: the district is supposed to do. And Bella's program is 854 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 7: a shining program. They use her program to recruit families. 855 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 7: Like when I toured the school, every time I toured, 856 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 7: they went to Bella's classroom. She has a capstone program, 857 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 7: and so I feel like they need to do more 858 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 7: to protect her and to protect her program. 859 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 3: It's just bad. 860 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 7: You don't want to be here. But then you're also like, 861 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 7: if I don't and fight for a change, what's going 862 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 7: to continue? So maybe maybe this is why we're here 863 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 7: to make a change. 864 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, that's why I stepped in, was 865 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: to help make a change, bring more attention to it. 866 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: You know, I've already talked to Tamika Mallory, I know 867 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: her names have been mentioning this. I'm going to reach 868 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: out to Angela Raie and any other activists or just 869 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: concerned parent. 870 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 5: Uh. 871 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: You know, it's not just about black and brown, It's 872 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 1: about everybody, because this is an environment that our children 873 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: are living in. So I'm going to definitely keep you 874 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: guys updated on what's going on, get the NAACP involved, 875 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 1: and really just go up there and kind of see 876 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: what we can do. I know you guys had a 877 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: a a gathering last week or is it two weeks 878 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: ago press conference conference, some of the. 879 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 8: White students trying to heckle us at the event at 880 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 8: the event, and it made me realize. Between that and 881 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 8: I've had death threats over this case and so much 882 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 8: hate mail that you can't believe it, it makes me 883 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 8: realize how widespread this problem is. I feel so bad 884 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 8: for Bella and my other clients that I represent, because 885 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 8: these are good people that deserve to be treated well 886 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 8: and they're only going through this because they're black. And 887 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 8: you know it's offensive to me. I'm a white man, 888 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 8: but it's offensive to me to see white people or 889 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 8: anybody going against someone else based on their race. And 890 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 8: that's why this is so important. I want to bring 891 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 8: this darkness out into the light and sort of help 892 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 8: to eliminate it so that other folks don't have to 893 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 8: put up with what we're seeing. 894 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 3: Here right now. 895 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: Well, you guys have myself and my platform, and I'm 896 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: going to bring a lot of my friends and we're 897 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 1: definitely going to make some noise and hopefully bring more 898 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: light to this situation and come to some sort of 899 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: understanding or conclusion because what's been going on and how 900 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: it's been swept on the rug, just like it was 901 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: swept on the rug in my high school in Sacramento, 902 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: is unacceptable. And like you said, if you leave, you know, 903 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 1: you're you're you're leaving the door open for the next 904 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: set of you know, young kids that are going to 905 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: come into this environment. So thank you guys for coming today. 906 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: We would make sure we stay in touch and and 907 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: and keep you guys posting on the progress of the situation. 908 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: No problem. I want to welcome back to the show 909 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: the neighborhood hater. 910 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 3: What's up man? How about you? 911 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: How? How was the hate on Instagram, Ben, are you 912 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 1: getting used. 913 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 3: To it yet? 914 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 8: No? 915 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 3: Actually, man, she's hurting my feelings. You guys. Fuck all, 916 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 3: y'all know. 917 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: You got some new found I mean, your your followers 918 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: have grown, know you. You've got some new fans. But 919 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: maybe they're just becoming fans to talk ship to you. 920 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, they just want to hear it though, you know 921 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 9: what I'm saying. What do they call that ship that 922 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 9: they do? That's what they are. 923 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: You're too old to understand that I am. I see 924 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: that new DJ Kelly Die has got your beer? 925 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: You like that? 926 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they might need to get you a little 927 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: deal with that. 928 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 3: I want my face on the box like. 929 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: People don't know. You want your face in a box 930 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: like normal people don't know, Like if die it shit 931 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: is all gray right here though, right? But what's the 932 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: what's the color called? You got? 933 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 3: I think this? What is this? Good? That midnight cocoa bean? 934 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: She looked good on you both? He look good. Well, 935 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: let's get back to why you're here. Man tenth in 936 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: the West fourteen and twelve on the season had a 937 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 1: nasty loss to the Blazers, UH one beat the trail 938 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: or beat the Timberwolves, while Lebron was out uh beat 939 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: the Grizzlies just the other night. What's up with your team? 940 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: Bron took a little time away from the team. Uh 941 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: AD's having a career year. Lakers said they have no 942 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: rop was a quotea by Rob Polink. I think they 943 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: came out with something today that said they have no 944 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: interest in trading eighty or Lebron, but if they requested, 945 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: something could happen. They got some pieces that we've been 946 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: talking to D'Angelo Russells and the Hachi Moras and a 947 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: couple other guys. Where are you guys at currently? I 948 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: think we're a little bit of over a quarter of 949 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: the way of the through the season fourteen to twelve fourteen, 950 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: and to us or it was a quarterway through the sea, 951 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 1: or we're our quarterway through the season. I mean, obviously 952 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: normally we say let things play out. It's still early, 953 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: but Laker fans don't like to let things play out. 954 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: You guys want ship now. So what's happening with y'all? 955 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 3: I mean we're kind of stagning right now. 956 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 9: All the all the headlines talking about this person's trade, this, 957 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 9: we're gonna get traded to hear when are we gonna 958 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 9: do something like I mean, I saw the Golden State 959 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 9: Warriors just you know, put a deal out. Not that 960 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 9: that's going to actually help them, but at least they're 961 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 9: trying to make a move and make their team better. 962 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: Picknis Schroeder absolutely bad. Solid Lakers are ready to give 963 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: him some bread a few years ago. Real Brillian, Yeah. 964 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 9: You know, and I'm glad we didn't give it to him. 965 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 9: Question that's okay though, But still we're stagning right now. 966 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 9: They're talking about the Lebron trade and Lebron and ad 967 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 9: nobody's taking a forty year old and given us back 968 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 9: anything for it. You don't think so to take a 969 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 9: forty you out right now, in the twilight of his career, 970 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,720 Speaker 9: to give us actually back something ABOUTUE. 971 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: I think the only team that would do that is 972 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: Golden State because they're going to try to maximize steps 973 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: run where you could possibly get some quality piece, young 974 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: pieces back. But I mean, I don't disagree anyone else. 975 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what did you think about his first game 976 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: back foot injury, came back eighteen eight and eight, you know, 977 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: five turnovers. I think the unfortunate thing with Lebron is 978 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: we live in one of the best things that happened 979 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: was social media, but one of the worst things that 980 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 1: also happened with social media because now obviously at forty, 981 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: mother natures just eventually starts to take over, and we 982 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: see it with all of our great heroes and players 983 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: are just they slowly start to get old, and we're 984 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: seeing Bron do stuff we've never seen. You know, the mislayups, 985 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 1: I think is one. 986 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:54,919 Speaker 3: Thing. 987 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on just you know, he's 988 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: not going to be able to gracefully age out of 989 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: this game. Although there was a bunch of hate before, 990 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: he's always been able to shut that shit up with 991 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: great play and I know he still has more left 992 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: than the tank. We're going to see a lot of 993 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: spectacular spectacularness from Bron this season, but he's not going 994 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: to be able to age out of this game gracefully. 995 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 3: No, he's not. 996 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,439 Speaker 9: And I think it's about time for us to start 997 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 9: bringing out the rocket chair for Lebron. 998 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 3: That the farewell for Lebron, Oh the tour? Yeah? 999 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 9: Absolutely, I mean, are we really going to win a 1000 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 9: championship this year or next year? It's not looking too 1001 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 9: good for us for that man, And but Laker fans 1002 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 9: you know how it goes. 1003 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why you're like, I want you 1004 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: on this show because I was a Laker, was a player. 1005 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: I think from the fan perspective, was also think from 1006 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: a basketball player's perspective, but also think from a business perspective. 1007 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: You're a strictly LA sports hater fanatic, so you have 1008 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people that think the crazy and wild 1009 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: and drastic shit that you do. That's why I think 1010 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, you being on this show and you popping 1011 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: your ship. It's not just on some that a lot 1012 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: of people think and talk as reckless as you do 1013 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Lakers. 1014 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 3: But there the Dodgers. 1015 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 9: But they also think I'm a Lebron hater, which I've 1016 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 9: never been a Lebron hater until he kind of put 1017 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 9: on our jersey. 1018 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: Oh you hated him once he got here, so you 1019 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: loved him before he got here. 1020 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 3: That's a weird thing happening right now with that. 1021 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 9: Like, really, now that he's put on our jersey, I 1022 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 9: have a different perspective on him. Eight years one chip 1023 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 9: like which will basically be what it is after he's 1024 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 9: done here. 1025 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean, some teams haven't won a chip period yeah, 1026 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: but with the Lakers, you're different. Come on the forum 1027 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: Staple Center parades. He's been here for eight years? 1028 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 3: When this is year seven right now? 1029 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: Is it so? 1030 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 9: It'll be eight years? Next year, the last year of 1031 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 9: his contract, it'll be eight years one chip. 1032 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: Do you think this he does the Kobe farewell uh situation? 1033 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: Or do you think Bron will be someone that just 1034 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 1: says enough is enough, I'm done. 1035 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 9: If he has on our jersey, do us a favor, bro? 1036 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 9: Let right, don't take us through this ship next year? 1037 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 9: Like I can't take it. 1038 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: Bro, We love you? 1039 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 3: Do you? Do you? Really? Though? Ron? 1040 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like love you just get right there? 1041 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: That sounded like some sassinessas ridiculous. I mean we talked, 1042 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: I think we talked with Brandon Jennings about does he 1043 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 1: deserve a statue as a Laker. Let me just name 1044 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: some of the people who have statues around the Staples Center. 1045 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: Oscar de la Hoya, Raing, Gretzky, Jack hern elgend Baylor, 1046 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, Jerry West, Shaq, Kareem Cobe. 1047 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:42,959 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 1048 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: Does Lebron fit there? I mean, like you said, when 1049 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: it's all said and done, he'll be have been here 1050 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: eight years. We got got y'all, but he still got 1051 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: y'all Chip, and arguably top two or three could be one. 1052 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: In a lot of people's opinions, players. 1053 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 3: All ship but participation in trophy. 1054 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what they say. Man, we can go 1055 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: back for I mean to me, I flipping and say 1056 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 1: that's probably the most difficult. 1057 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 3: And championship you. 1058 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm just sat with the Yeah, who's saying that? 1059 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 9: The people, the haters that don't like the Lakers ship 1060 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 9: Bubble Chip, Cracker, jack box Chip, I can't take that ship. 1061 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 9: She would have a toned for one. Then we will 1062 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 9: be talking about him having a statue outside. 1063 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: So you don't so the only way you think he 1064 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: can get a statue if he would have got. 1065 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 9: To multiple chips. Absolutely, we at least be not hating 1066 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 9: on it. You know what I'm saying, Like, does he 1067 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 9: deserve to be out there with Bean the logo elgiin. 1068 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: I'll masking, this is your this is your franchise, Sha 1069 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,240 Speaker 1: chick hearn. 1070 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,240 Speaker 9: Come on you guys, let's let's put his jersey up. Okay, 1071 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 9: Let's have a Bible knight form biblehead knife for him. 1072 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 9: You said give him a free parking spot. 1073 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: Jersey and the Rafters, b I p part forever. So no, no, 1074 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: no statue. 1075 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 3: No chance. Bro. 1076 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, Bron, but no, But you're gonna get to 1077 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,919 Speaker 9: Cleveland and Miami. They got you set up already. 1078 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,720 Speaker 3: Damn you. 1079 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: So the Lakers will not be unveiling Lebron's statue in 1080 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 1: the next twenty. 1081 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 9: Years unless he wins us a chip Man. And I'm 1082 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 9: not saying it can't happen this year. 1083 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,439 Speaker 1: You sounded like you can't, though, but you sound hurt 1084 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: a miracle and I am. Bro. There's a little bit 1085 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: of like, if we keep talking, I might see a 1086 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: tearful and then I'll see the beard dye drip onto 1087 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: your sweater. 1088 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 3: The mom's like that though. 1089 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you, Bro, if you didn't, if you 1090 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: just were Captain Gray Beer, you'd have so many of 1091 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: these older Cougars may mountain lions. 1092 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 9: I'm making them feel like Cougar's now, even though we're 1093 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 9: the same age. You dig know what I'm saying, Well. 1094 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: She's the same age as you, She's she's close to 1095 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: mountain lion, like Cougar than mountain Lion. 1096 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 9: I'm still on though he's definitely still cracking I'm still cracking, 1097 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,959 Speaker 9: So that's that matter. 1098 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: Like you said, put your face on the box or 1099 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 1: in it box, whatever it takes. Hey, bro. One of 1100 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: the hottest topics of late has been Travis Hunter and 1101 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: not a play m but it's fiance. 1102 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 3: Hmmm. 1103 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: It's tough because he's been such a spectacular player, winning 1104 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 1: several awards, obviously taking home the Height has been in 1105 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: salute for that, but all this outside noise getting in 1106 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: the middle of his relationship with his lady him in that. 1107 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: But that's what happens. 1108 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 3: You know. 1109 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: People say he's too young, he's twenty. We shouldn't be 1110 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: talking about this, but it's out there. It's a topic. 1111 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 1: I think it was on ESPN today, it's everywhere. What 1112 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: have been your thoughts on just kind of the dynamic 1113 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 1: between him and his fiance overshadowing the praise he should 1114 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: be getting for a great season he's had. 1115 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 9: It's sad because he's a one in a lifetime town. 1116 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,919 Speaker 9: Oh man, He's like he's on some different shit out there. 1117 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1118 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 9: I hate to see a relationship bring that to an 1119 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 9: end or a close or even have any effect on 1120 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 9: it at all, because he hasn't even gotten drafted yet. 1121 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 9: He hasn't played one down in the NFL, be a 1122 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 9: top three pick, and you know what we always talk about, 1123 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 9: I think until you're twenty four years old, we should 1124 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 9: be out there doing your thing anyway. And I'm not 1125 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 9: saying that you shouldn't be out of your relationship, but 1126 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,839 Speaker 9: still your first it's just tough. 1127 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think what I saw was 1128 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: obviously they've been together for five years. Even if she 1129 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 1: had been the picture perfect image of a girlfriend and 1130 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: done everything right fiance, excuse me, everything right. Being a 1131 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: top pick and going into the NFL or the NBA 1132 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: married or engaged is a tough heel to climb. And 1133 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: we don't even need to get into the eighty percent 1134 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: failure rate of relationships when it comes to that, but 1135 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: it's probably even higher when you're younger. You know, there's 1136 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 1: just some shit. He's gonna be a top two or 1137 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: three pick, maybe number one. A lot of shit is 1138 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 1: coming his way, and it's going to take a really 1139 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: strong woman to be able to hold that down. And 1140 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: we've seen situations where we're into into women's credit. All 1141 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: women got fucking attitudes, period, you know what I mean. 1142 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: So she's not even out of pocket for what's been 1143 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: going on, because we don't really necessarily know the dynamic. 1144 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: But my whole thing is just like, and I don't 1145 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: even want to say this because we're older and we've 1146 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: been there, but you're almost setting yourself up for failure 1147 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: when you go into the NFL or the NBA at 1148 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: late teens or early twenties. 1149 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 9: Married Christians have to say the Christians. 1150 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I don't think any ethnicity is immune 1151 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: to this professional sports life and getting in there and 1152 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: just the crazy shit you're gonna. 1153 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 3: See that baby daddy life is crazy. 1154 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: It was expensive, so it's a it's expensive. 1155 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 9: And I don't want them to I don't want him 1156 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 9: to have to deal with that, but he has to 1157 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 9: go through it, dud his twenty early twenties. 1158 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the best. The best lesson is is experience, 1159 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: and you can tell we've all been in relationships where 1160 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: you can't tell me if I'm in love, you can't 1161 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: tell me shit. 1162 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,479 Speaker 3: And I've never told you shit. You haven't never once, 1163 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 3: But you. 1164 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: Can't a young man. You can't tell him nothing about 1165 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: his life, and it's gonna make them. I'm sure this 1166 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: drama has hopefully drawn them closer, you know, But when 1167 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: you see him having to explain and then her trying 1168 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: to get out and explain and start crying, it's just hard. 1169 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: And I feel bad because they are such babies, But 1170 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: I think they're going to have to take this head on, 1171 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: and and and and and try and experience this and 1172 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: and and hopefully wish them the best. 1173 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 3: I hope this ship doesn't like mess with his draft sat. 1174 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he's too good yea, yeah, I think 1175 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: he's too good, uh for this to mess with his 1176 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: draft side. But to me, it's it's the mental side 1177 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: of it. You know, what are guys. You know a 1178 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: lot of bad games, injuries, a lot of ship has 1179 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 1: gone on because you're not fully focused on that field 1180 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: or that quart or that diamond. So I'm not saying 1181 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 1: that's going to be the issue, but it's just we've 1182 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: we've talked to guys, we've been a part of that 1183 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: ship and known that when that that home life gets rocky, 1184 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, our our game is mental. Once you get 1185 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: to the top, it's ninety percent mental. So to be 1186 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: able to keep his mental focus, but I mean, we 1187 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: wish I wish you the best. I wish you know, 1188 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: you're you're you and your fiance the best and you know, 1189 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: a happy journey. It's just gonna be tough, bro, And 1190 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 1: and and make sure you know you're not afraid to 1191 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 1: reach and lean. I mean, you got one of the 1192 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: persons give you the most game and coach Prime Tree. 1193 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: He's already done that. But there's gonna be times during 1194 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: this journey where you're gonna need to reach out to 1195 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 1: somebody and really lean on on how to figure and 1196 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: navigate this shit out. And I hope you do that 1197 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: because we all want to see the best for you, 1198 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and we all want to see the best of you. 1199 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:18,439 Speaker 1: So we're definitely looking forward. 1200 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 3: Man. 1201 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Congratulations on the Heisman. Good luck in your guys's bowl game, Man, 1202 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: and we can't wait to see where you land Draft day. Bro. 1203 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 3: He deserves to be the number one pick him a 1204 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 3: shador Yeah, one and. 1205 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Two for sure, Shador up there. I'm excited. 1206 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 9: So, Matt Man, what advice would you give Travis Man 1207 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 9: to resolve this situation? 1208 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm the last motherfucker that should be 1209 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: giving any relationship advice. If I'm just being honest with you, 1210 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily give you a relationship I could just 1211 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: give you some og. I'm about to be forty five advices. 1212 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: This shit's gonna be a tough. It's tough when you're single. 1213 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 1: It's tough when you got a girl, But when you're 1214 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: married going into this space, it's very tough and it 1215 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: takes two understanding, committed people to make it hopefully work, 1216 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: you know. So just the numbers are stacked, But to 1217 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: think the numbers have always been stacked against his kid, 1218 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, and for him to be here now and 1219 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: be winning the Heisman and being one of the most 1220 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: electric college players we've ever seen, and we hopefully that 1221 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 1: translates to the NFL. But yeah, I'm probably the last 1222 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: person to really be given relationship advice. I just wish 1223 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: you the best, bro and and and make sure you 1224 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: reach out to people if you need help, because sometimes 1225 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: that should get heavy. 1226 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:21,479 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 1227 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Well, Gino, man, we appreciate you. Yeah, I mean, I 1228 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: could obviously be someone you can reach out to. I 1229 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: can give you a little bit of a game on this 1230 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 1: ship because I didn't been through it, like you said, 1231 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: that baby Daddy game. It's crazy. 1232 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 3: It's expensive, man. 1233 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: You know how much money I would have if I 1234 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: didn't let's not even get into that shit. Gino. Man, 1235 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: we appreciate you and your hate. I'm disappointed that you 1236 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 1: said that that La doesn't feel like bron deserves the 1237 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: statue at Staples. 1238 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 3: And if you stop playing that, we'll whack out your mural, 1239 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 3: baby boy. So come on playing man. 1240 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for your time, sir. I just got 1241 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: those shoes. I didn't know I was gonna be copying you. 1242 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: I like them. 1243 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 1244 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, let's get my picks 1245 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: for the week, brought to you by DraftKings. Three and 1246 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 1: one a week ago, two and two last week. Right there, 1247 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: this point spread, I'm used to just picking the teams. 1248 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: The point spreads by kind of been fucking me up 1249 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 1: when I'm learning this space. But I know football and 1250 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting to it. So this week we got Saturday, 1251 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Steelers at the Ravens, the Ravens minus six. It's getting 1252 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 1: down to crunch time. I like the Ravens, man, I 1253 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: like the Rains. I like the Steelers. Steelers off a 1254 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 1: tough loss last week. I'm gonna take the Ravens at 1255 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: home minus six. Sunday Vikings at Seattle. I'm voting against 1256 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: any NFC West teams, although there's no hope for the Niners. 1257 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,120 Speaker 1: I just I'm a behater. Very few times I'm a behater. 1258 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm just so sad about what happened with my Niners 1259 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: and the just the implosion. Dude, any want to play 1260 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: left the game in the third quarter. We didn't even 1261 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: get to that. But that's bananas. I'm gonna take the 1262 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Vikings in Seattle minus three and a half Eagles at Commanders. 1263 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a good one. I think the 1264 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Eagles have found a little rhythm. Big win last week. 1265 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Commanders are looking you know, they're in the playoff hunt. 1266 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: It's the Commanders at home minus three. Shit, I'm gonna 1267 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: go ahead and take the Eagles plus three at the 1268 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: Commanders and the stunner of the week, but it's not 1269 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 1: much of a stunner since Mahomes is out. I'm gonna 1270 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 1: take the Texans minus two and a half to go 1271 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: into Kansas City and get that done. Appreciate you guys 1272 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: from following. Make sure you guys tap in next week. 1273 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: You can catch this on the DraftKings Network and the 1274 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: All the Smoke Productions YouTube. See y'all next week.