Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty four,
Speaker 1: Episode five of Dr Daly's II Guys. It's the Big Finale.
Speaker 1: This is still a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast
Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
Speaker 1: And it is Friday, April twenty eighth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka. It looks crappy. This
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Speaker 1: scout Goo on the discord, and I'm thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined by a very special guest co host, an artist,
Speaker 1: a musician, the producer of this very podcast. It's super
Speaker 1: producer Justin Connor.
Speaker 2: It's super producer Justin Connor AKA of Sneakers and tattoos
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Speaker 2: This aka wasn't written by being okay. In fact, it
Speaker 2: was written by LACERRONI on the disc road. I I
Speaker 2: feel like maybe I should stressed that I'm a more
Speaker 2: confident rapper than singer.
Speaker 1: I pretty good.
Speaker 2: I went for the loaf, hanging fruit ended my favorite things. AKA.
Speaker 2: I know it's felt, its.
Speaker 1: Hacked, but it's a it's a mold that we all,
Speaker 1: you know, pour ourselves into.
Speaker 3: Fair Yeah times, yeah, yeah, I appreciate your bravery, sir,
Speaker 3: and I was transported to wherever the fuck the sound
Speaker 3: of the sound of music takes place justin We are
Speaker 3: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a
Speaker 3: very funny stand up comedian host.
Speaker 1: Of the Patreon show pot Damn America. I'm assuming it's
Speaker 1: pronounced like pot damn man Erica, Like wow, you look great.
Speaker 1: Austin Texonian Texans Taxonians can catch him at the Belveto
Speaker 1: Room May sixth and twenty seven. It's the brilliant, the
Speaker 1: talented Jake Flora.
Speaker 4: Hello, daily Z, it's good to be here. I didn't
Speaker 4: bring a song. I didn't know what we're doing that at.
Speaker 1: The time, right yourself? You brought your voy myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah damn. All the pipes are are good enough. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Your your voice is a melody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sonorous, crisp resonant. That's great to have you, Jake,
Speaker 1: how are you doing. How have you been?
Speaker 4: I'm feeling pretty good. I am a terrible singer. I
Speaker 4: did karaoke the other night, and I think I think
Speaker 4: I might be tone deaf, Like I literally go to
Speaker 4: a doctor.
Speaker 1: My voice sounds great. It seems like you should be
Speaker 1: a great karaoke singer of like a Johnny Cash or
Speaker 1: you know, something like that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, only songs that are down here. I think
Speaker 4: I can really live in you.
Speaker 1: Ever do boys then, but just do the deep voice.
Speaker 4: Guy for you.
Speaker 1: I'm just spitballing here just for you.
Speaker 2: But at the time you do karaoke, I think you're
Speaker 2: supposed to be bad at karaoke. You can't go up
Speaker 2: there and blow everyone away. Maybe performance wise, energy wise,
Speaker 2: charisma wise, but if your voice is too good, it's
Speaker 2: kind of it's like cheating, you know.
Speaker 4: People say that and then like like I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: you have to hear it, and then they hear it
Speaker 4: and they're like you're right.
Speaker 1: There's like you're right, we should never do this again.
Speaker 4: There's like a level below hell, like a sub type
Speaker 4: thing where it's like actually not enjoyable. It's just fucking
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I've never been to a karaoke anything like,
Speaker 2: I've never not even a little like boombox like set
Speaker 2: up at like a house party or anything. So I
Speaker 2: don't know how I'm going to react to it when
Speaker 2: I do it, because I plan to at some point,
Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't imagine it's going
Speaker 2: to be very good either, But I think the point
Speaker 2: is to have fun, so you know, get out there.
Speaker 4: The point is to have fun, and I will make
Speaker 4: it not fun. I also won't have fun, which is weird.
Speaker 4: I get nervous doing it, and I'm a stand up comic,
Speaker 4: like I talking to him. Yeah, talking no problem is
Speaker 4: as a switch to singing. I get. It's like the
Speaker 4: first time on stage again. It really Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I think peer pressure works on me, like when I
Speaker 2: have to perform, like I just turn it on. I
Speaker 2: just if I have to be there. I kind of
Speaker 2: I reach for something deep in my soul, but it's
Speaker 2: not I don't know if it's enjoyable because I kind
Speaker 2: of black out.
Speaker 1: So I hope it from just drinking copious amounts of vodka, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the I just kind of black out. I this
Speaker 1: weird thing where I get on stage and blackout after
Speaker 1: drinking a handle of vodka. All right, well, Jake, we're
Speaker 1: thrilled to have you here. We're gonna get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, a
Speaker 1: few of the things we're talking about today. Biden's campaign
Speaker 1: has kicked off. It's all, it's all anyone's talking about.
Speaker 1: We're all excited. His website is embracing the dark Brandon meme.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about the Dark Mega, the Dark
Speaker 1: Brandon w I. Both sides are embracing those as like
Speaker 1: good things for their for their respective sides. Trump. The
Speaker 1: rape trial of Donald Trump civil suit brought by Egen
Speaker 1: Carroll started didn't get that much attention from the New
Speaker 1: York Times or anyone. So we'll just talk about that
Speaker 1: black Mirror is coming back. We'll talk about why that's
Speaker 1: kind of a bummer because they just keep telling us
Speaker 1: like what's about to happen in our society. We might
Speaker 1: even talk about the Ten Commandments and why they stink
Speaker 1: all that plenty more. But first, Jake, I know, fucking harsh.
Speaker 1: Take the Ten Commandments stink, That's right, we said, Jake.
Speaker 1: Before we get to any of that, bullshit, though, we
Speaker 1: do like to ask our guest, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history?
Speaker 4: Oh? What an invasive question? Yes you know this, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that made me nervous when I that, or will like.
Speaker 1: Take some passwords whatever you want to get. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, mother's maid of course.
Speaker 4: So I looked at this and I don't really have
Speaker 4: anything that damning I think in here. But I did.
Speaker 4: I did google recently Chewy promo code because I use
Speaker 4: this website Chewy to buy like cat litter and stuff
Speaker 4: for my cat. And I was I had a bunch
Speaker 4: of like cat food and stuff queued up the other day,
Speaker 4: and I think what I happened is I went on
Speaker 4: like like a coupon website and I was trying to
Speaker 4: find I was trying to steal cat food. I guess
Speaker 4: it is something. Yeah, I feel like says something about
Speaker 4: me because I love my cat, but I'm still like
Speaker 4: a criminal about it. You know, he's very large, so
Speaker 4: he needs a lot and it's really breaking the bank
Speaker 4: over here. But yeah, no, I tried to use one
Speaker 4: of those coupon websites like that. I feel like used
Speaker 4: to work like twenty years ago or something, you know,
Speaker 4: just generate coupons and it didn't work, so fucker. That's sad,
Speaker 4: But I just paid for the food anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's where I'm at. I have a lovely
Speaker 2: pit bull mix and she she eats a lot as well,
Speaker 2: and uh, I've also gone through the same thing. These
Speaker 2: coupons are some bullshit. And also like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I think like this
Speaker 2: dog is my first dog, and I really had ideas
Speaker 2: about what I was gonna do with her in terms
Speaker 2: of like, oh yeah, I'm gonna start cooking her food
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna make sure it's all nutritious and good.
Speaker 2: And then life kind of, you know, makes things spin
Speaker 2: out of control. And I really just went for a
Speaker 2: mix of like dry food and vegetable food. But this
Speaker 2: shit is so expensive, and if anyone out there and
Speaker 2: zeitgang has like a plug for cheap but very like healthy,
Speaker 2: good for your pets animal food, please hook it up.
Speaker 2: Let me know, because I'm searching out here and I
Speaker 2: can't find anything.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know what, I think we just
Speaker 4: invented dog food, not bombs.
Speaker 1: There you go, let's do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like that, as with everything on the Internet.
Speaker 1: The cupun codes like just got fucked up. Like it
Speaker 1: went from being a cool thing to immediately be like
Speaker 1: asking you invasive questions and asking you for information and
Speaker 1: like feeling like you were, you know, crippling. You are
Speaker 1: hard drive, you know, like you have to like sign
Speaker 1: up for a mailing list or some shit to get
Speaker 1: the cupun And I know that wasn't all of them,
Speaker 1: but it just felt like increasingly it felt like you
Speaker 1: were clicking on a pop up ad whenever you would
Speaker 1: sign up for one of these cupunk codes.
Speaker 4: Not to jump like too far ahead to black Mirror
Speaker 4: and all that stuff, but like, uh, you know, with
Speaker 4: like the AI thing, it's I think, like it's I
Speaker 4: feel like it now. You can feel it now anything
Speaker 4: you do on the internet, you're just like, man, I'm
Speaker 4: giving these people so much of my data and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: at me through my webcam, making another be over there
Speaker 4: and stuff just like feels weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely worried about the amount of my voice
Speaker 1: that I've put on the Internet. Like I truly think
Speaker 1: they could recreate me at will, like that I could
Speaker 1: be a recreat This could be just an AI generated
Speaker 1: version of me. That you're listening to right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been thinking about that recently, and it's
Speaker 2: I mean it might not even be you know, your choice.
Speaker 2: Like at some point maybe one of your like younger
Speaker 2: relatives will be like, Hey, you know what I'm going
Speaker 2: to recreate Jack with Because there's so many hours of
Speaker 2: voice out there, I can just give it to some
Speaker 2: AI specialist. I saw some woman who did that the
Speaker 2: other day. That comedian from Vacancy was like a magic comedian.
Speaker 2: It was like Dave something.
Speaker 4: What was his name, Oh, the amazing Jonathan, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Amazing Jonathan. Yeah, yes, Dave, the amazing john Amazing.
Speaker 4: How I knew we were talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was a I congratulate you O for
Speaker 2: that because it wasn't a great description. But he passed
Speaker 2: I think during the pandemic, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: it was pandemic related, but his partner pretty much had
Speaker 2: him recreated voice wise, and yeah, I'm not sure necessarily,
Speaker 2: I guess it's up to each person. She's using it
Speaker 2: as like a therapy tool. It's it's interesting the technology, yeah,
Speaker 2: and all the ways it could go. But I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want a company getting a hold of my shit.
Speaker 4: That's yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that is straight up a Black Mayor episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I think they make comparisons to it.
Speaker 2: Also during the thing a little clip I saw, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's fascinating and I don't mean to derail the conversation,
Speaker 2: but to take it back to the coupon thing, I
Speaker 2: feel like, I don't know if this is necessarily connected,
Speaker 2: but I feel like companies that do like the payment
Speaker 2: plan thing like that has been pushed more over like
Speaker 2: coupon stuff now like oh buy no pay later, like
Speaker 2: Klarna and like all that kind of stuff. I've been
Speaker 2: seeing way more advertising for that kind of shit lately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all you have to do is give us control
Speaker 1: of your bank account and you can just pay whenever
Speaker 1: you want because we will take the money out ourselves.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was just gonna say, I love subscribing to
Speaker 4: my refrigerator because the thing about the future that we
Speaker 4: live in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Listen? I want a disclaimer here that I'm a provocative
Speaker 4: comedian and I like to make people mad on purpose
Speaker 4: before I say this, but I've been watching The Sopranos
Speaker 4: for the first time in my life, and it's pretty good,
Speaker 4: but I think it might be not as good maybe
Speaker 4: as people say it is. And it's still pretty good,
Speaker 4: and I get why it was a big deal, but
Speaker 4: I need a vent about this because I'm personally kind
Speaker 4: of exhausted with it because it's very long, and it's
Speaker 4: like and it's not the show's fault, it's it's just
Speaker 4: that like it's from a different era, I think, and
Speaker 4: people had more of an attention span and it was
Speaker 4: like the only show like itself. There were just less
Speaker 4: shows like that around, so people had a lot of
Speaker 4: hours to invest in this damn family.
Speaker 2: But I also had time to ruminate between episodes, like
Speaker 2: what you had time to marinate on what happened, as
Speaker 2: opposed to just like let's just bends the whole thing
Speaker 2: and forget that you even watched it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's like part of how the form plays
Speaker 4: into this, you know. And I've just had like so
Speaker 4: many people be like, oh, you know when you say
Speaker 4: you haven't seen something, and it hurts people's guts inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So I feel like I should. I
Speaker 2: really wish Miles was here. He's the right person to
Speaker 2: bring this topic too, because I actually I'm in the
Speaker 2: same boat as you. I've seen a few episodes of
Speaker 2: The Sopranos. I've never sat down and watched and I
Speaker 2: don't right. Oh no, I was just talking about how
Speaker 2: I need to give this a actual try and watch
Speaker 2: the whole thing chronologically. But who has the time? Now?
Speaker 1: You know, anytime saying something is pretty good is like
Speaker 1: a declaration of war that thing might be overrated because
Speaker 1: like people, Yeah, that is a highly controversial opinion.
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 1: I have not done the rewatch of this Pranos. I
Speaker 1: watched it when it came out. Oh, I know, which
Speaker 1: is the equivalent of like, what how you can't even
Speaker 1: talk about television if you haven't rewatched it all chronologically,
Speaker 1: if you haven't watched the cut where they actually start
Speaker 1: off with the flashbacks and then move forward in time.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the thing, but it's yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was watching it being exhausted by it,
Speaker 1: like there being episodes where not much really happened. I'd
Speaker 1: imagine upon rewatch like that would those episodes would be
Speaker 1: better and more enjoyable, because you know what, once you
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen, like you're not your brain's
Speaker 1: not like being like, oh, what's gonna happen next, and
Speaker 1: like eager just like for plot.
Speaker 2: But how much filler would you say? There is like
Speaker 2: a percentage wise.
Speaker 1: The filler is pretty good, but it is there is
Speaker 1: a lot of filler.
Speaker 4: I would say it's like Italian food, like it's a
Speaker 4: lot of bread, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's enjoyable, but yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have like enough time to have a part
Speaker 4: time job that is watching the Sopranos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I have. I think I have to watch
Speaker 2: it because it is one of those things where it's
Speaker 2: like I think it's up there with the wire too,
Speaker 2: like if you haven't seen it, you can't comment on
Speaker 2: you know, it's like mandatory having to have seen it.
Speaker 2: But I just, uh, yeah, I don't have the time anymore,
Speaker 2: and I do have enough, Like enough of these moments
Speaker 2: pop up now too. I think because of the version
Speaker 2: of the Internet we have now and the way social
Speaker 2: media is, you don't have to necessarily even watch stuff
Speaker 2: to know every single cultural touchtone that comes from that
Speaker 2: piece of media. You get all the references, you get
Speaker 2: all the jokes through memes or whatever. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that's good or that that's better. It's just weird
Speaker 2: to me how I can understand many sopranos like jokes,
Speaker 2: like in jokes amongst the fan base. And I have
Speaker 2: not watched maybe even twenty percent of the episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you really want to make the mad, just
Speaker 1: be like no, I've seen the memes that I get it.
Speaker 2: That's why I leaned into it. I don't think it's good.
Speaker 2: I didn't want people coming from me, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is something Jake you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Well somewhat related, I've been eating a lot of Italian food.
Speaker 4: I think just subliminally it got into my head from
Speaker 4: watching the show and like watch because it's like a
Speaker 4: thing that just occurs every now and then. Is that
Speaker 4: they're eating like a ricot or something, or like they
Speaker 4: eat this thing that looks like a crown made out
Speaker 4: of bones the other day that I'm very curious about
Speaker 4: what not that I'm just it was crazy. I posted
Speaker 4: a picture of it on Twitter What the hell is this?
Speaker 4: And all these Twitter so people are like, you don't
Speaker 4: know what that is? Like they're all bunk on me
Speaker 4: and stuff. Apparently it's called a crown roast and it's
Speaker 4: this thing they make a like a like a king's
Speaker 4: crown out of an animal's bones and the roasted apparently
Speaker 4: it's pretty good. So I just have this flavor on
Speaker 4: the brain. And I was chopping It's groceries store the
Speaker 4: other day and I bought a jar of something called
Speaker 4: olive salad, and I would like to form the world
Speaker 4: that it's an underrated thing in that it didn't know
Speaker 4: it existed. And that's that's a form of underrated, right.
Speaker 4: No one's talking about this. It's olive salad.
Speaker 2: No I In my mind, I'm just picturing a bunch
Speaker 2: of chopped up olives and like with some romaine, there is.
Speaker 4: That kind of what it is, Well it's not. There's
Speaker 4: not romaine, but it's like other like olive, like things
Speaker 4: like peppers that you would like soak and oil like that,
Speaker 4: but it's chopped up and then made into like kind
Speaker 4: of a thing you can just spread on a freaking
Speaker 4: sandwich and like it. I'm it's changed my life because,
Speaker 4: like you know, you try to buy sandwich stuff when
Speaker 4: you're grocery shopping and you think you're like, well, what
Speaker 4: how hard could it be? And this is like a
Speaker 4: great way to feed yourself cheap. You can never really
Speaker 4: hit like the way something tastes from a deli doing
Speaker 4: the dance and pranos hands. It's because you don't know
Speaker 4: about secret stuff like all of salad. Yeah, oh man,
Speaker 4: really good.
Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, it made me think of a very
Speaker 1: fancy deli.
Speaker 4: Like I think it's just technically for like a muffle
Speaker 4: letta like a po boy or something like that, like
Speaker 4: a like a Cajun thing. But it really it hit
Speaker 4: me because you know a lot of times people make
Speaker 4: a salad, they put one olive on a on a
Speaker 4: what they call set, a cue tip, a toothpick, and
Speaker 4: then they put it in the same which just for
Speaker 4: like aesthetics, you know. But it's like, well, you eat
Speaker 4: a sandwich, you get to eat one olive like wall
Speaker 4: throughout the entire sandwich. That's very little olive, right, but
Speaker 4: this it spreads throughout the entire damn things. Every bite
Speaker 4: you get like that salty, briny thing. Oh man, insane.
Speaker 1: I live so much and it's totally happened later in life,
Speaker 1: Like I hated olives when I was a kid, but
Speaker 1: now it's probably the food, Like I can't get enough.
Speaker 1: I like I could not imagine eating too many olives.
Speaker 1: Like it's just I always feel like underserved when it
Speaker 1: comes to olives. I fucking love them.
Speaker 4: They're the best I know, these Italians. They got they're
Speaker 4: onto something with onto something.
Speaker 1: With those olives. Things underrated. Not enough people are talking
Speaker 1: about olives. Is it like the most popular food since time,
Speaker 1: since the fucking Ten Commandments?
Speaker 4: I suppose there's a very famous restaurant named after them.
Speaker 2: But it is also a massive like crime organization that's
Speaker 2: like built up around fake olive oil.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, olive oil. What fake olive oil was
Speaker 1: like a big scam in the seventies. I remember there's
Speaker 1: like I came again, I came into into contact with
Speaker 1: that like researching something else, and it was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they busted this massive like counterfeit olive oil.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we had that that off white supreme olive
Speaker 2: oil and they got the counterfeit version of it. And
Speaker 2: it was crazy that they were like I mean, I
Speaker 2: think they were making millions. It was like one of
Speaker 2: the biggest money makers for the mafia at one point.
Speaker 2: That's nuts.
Speaker 1: But it sounds racist to say that, Like it sounds
Speaker 1: it sounds like, you know, it's like, don't do us
Speaker 1: like that? No, I yeah, I was talking about the same,
Speaker 1: but like to speculate that the Italian mob is like
Speaker 1: selling counterfeit olive oil. Like it sounds like you're just
Speaker 1: being like yeah, And then they had a big meat
Speaker 1: ball shipment, you know, yeah, breed meat balls.
Speaker 4: We don't. We don't do anti Italian racism here absolutely,
Speaker 4: you know. It reminds me of there's an oddly similar
Speaker 4: story that I came upon researching for some dumb podcast
Speaker 4: I was doing about the Moonies, the cult from Korea
Speaker 4: that sort of is like the origin point of like
Speaker 4: this weird other thing that's happening in the United States
Speaker 4: with this guy named King bullet Head who's like the
Speaker 4: guy's son. And then like the guy killed Shinzo Abe
Speaker 4: killed him because the Moonies, like the Shinzo and the
Speaker 4: Moonies somehow were involved in the thing with his family,
Speaker 4: someone died. I don't, yeah, Moviies. So the interesting weird
Speaker 4: thing that came out from like US occupation in uh
Speaker 4: in Korea back in the day. They have like a
Speaker 4: similar thing going on where they're the source of I
Speaker 4: guess all of Western wasabi. And it's also fake like
Speaker 4: apparently when you eat with sabi, when you have sushi here,
Speaker 4: it's a horse radish, they die green. Like yeah, probably
Speaker 4: live your whole life and never actually have with sabi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to be surprised if we google
Speaker 2: like Canada's like counterfeit maple syrup operation.
Speaker 4: That's real. That is real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all because criminals don't do much research. They
Speaker 1: just like Google the first thing. They're like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're Italian, what do we do?
Speaker 2: What's the most popular and how do we rip it off?
Speaker 4: You hit I know you were like randomly hit dead
Speaker 4: on there's a whole maple syrup in Canada.
Speaker 2: Wow, what's America's counterfeits gotta be ketchup?
Speaker 1: Right? Oh yeah, it's gotta we have to like counterfeit ketchup.
Speaker 1: But that would just you would just become a billionaire
Speaker 1: and it would be legal, because that's what America is,
Speaker 1: just like just behin, right, you find the cheapest way
Speaker 1: to like make something that the piggies will gobble up,
Speaker 1: and then you become a billionaire and it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if it's poisoning them because we don't find out until
Speaker 1: people start dying thirty years later, and by that time
Speaker 1: you're rich enough to like affect legislation, so you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get in any trouble.
Speaker 2: To your point, I don't even know if they could
Speaker 2: export the counterfeit shit like the European like food drug
Speaker 2: administrators over there and be like, nah, this doesn't pass
Speaker 2: the smell test for us. You guys got to eat
Speaker 2: that over there. Yeah yeah, wow, all.
Speaker 1: Right, it's actually mostly red paint.
Speaker 2: But it's red number forty four. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: Full of microplastics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, aren't we all guess?
Speaker 1: Mayonnaise might be the other thing like that we as
Speaker 1: we talked about on an episode earlier this week. It's
Speaker 1: always like been very suspicious to me that Hellman's like
Speaker 1: the biggest word on their label is real. Hell's real mayonnaise. Okay,
Speaker 1: stop asking. It's like nobody was asking, but now now
Speaker 1: we're very concerned.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my stand up bit. It's my one stand
Speaker 1: up joke that I'm work shopping.
Speaker 4: That's fine. Man. If you read a mayonnaise jar a
Speaker 4: certain way, it says like hell is real, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Hell is real.
Speaker 4: People repent put all of those letters in huge letters
Speaker 4: and then sell it. It'll there you go, It'll take
Speaker 4: off hell Country.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hell Man would be a dope like superhero of
Speaker 1: some sort.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's named after the mayonnaise. That'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like hell Man, and then his whole thing
Speaker 1: is just mayonnaise.
Speaker 2: Got like a foreign.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 1: Didn't go where I was expecting it. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll talk about the
Speaker 1: ultimate hell Man, Dark Brandon. We'll be right back and
Speaker 1: where sure back And Joe Biden's back. Baby, he's running
Speaker 1: for president. The nation is energized. We're fucking pumped to
Speaker 1: have this guy run for president at the age of
Speaker 1: you know, so old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at a certain point, it doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 1: So he launched his campaign website, and users quickly noticed
Speaker 1: that the site's error for a four message features the
Speaker 1: Dark Brandon meme, complete with a laser eyed Biden and
Speaker 1: the message let's get you back on the rails here.
Speaker 2: Okay, see I immediately thought of cocaine. This man eyes
Speaker 2: are bright red, and he said, let's get you back
Speaker 2: on the rails. Yeah, all right, Joe, were you.
Speaker 4: Just blasting rails looking at the bid?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I am every morning, is my ritual.
Speaker 4: It's great. Wow. It kind of reminded me of like,
Speaker 4: I think this might be on purpose. Well, actually it's not.
Speaker 4: You know what it is. He used to be called
Speaker 4: Amtrak Joe because he took the train. Yes, that's gonna
Speaker 4: be what it is, commutter or whatever. But he also
Speaker 4: like kind of busted up a railroad strike last year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he did, hmm.
Speaker 4: And I think they're just sort of betting that you
Speaker 4: won't know that, because that immediately just made me remember
Speaker 4: I am mad at him about train strike. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also the biggest calamity of his presidency might be
Speaker 1: a trained derailment.
Speaker 2: Oh right, that no one's talking about that.
Speaker 1: Not enough people are talking about to the point that
Speaker 1: he's comfortable being like, let's get this thing back on
Speaker 1: the rails.
Speaker 4: What. That's fucking horrible.
Speaker 1: What? Oh man, that's amazing. But they're just having fun
Speaker 1: with the memes. So the Dark Brando meme actually began
Speaker 1: with the Dark Mega meme, which featured a superpowered Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: which then gave way to the Dark Brandon, which it's
Speaker 1: both the consistency between the two is like portraying Trump
Speaker 1: or buy in as like Doctor Manhattan style, like laser
Speaker 1: beam eye having uber mensch basically like authoritarians. That's what
Speaker 1: it feels like to me. It feels like this is
Speaker 1: the result of having such ineffectual and incapable parties in
Speaker 1: the United States that are just like incapable of doing
Speaker 1: anything that isn't like completely endorsed or asked for by corporations,
Speaker 1: and so people are like fantasizing about their leaders being
Speaker 1: like authoritarian Doctor Manhattan. Yeah, I mean uber mench bending
Speaker 1: people to their will.
Speaker 2: Like speaking of authoritarian leaders. Didn't the president of El
Speaker 2: Salvador he also like tweeted memes with him with like
Speaker 2: laser eyes for the whole bitcoin thing he was trying
Speaker 2: to push.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah he did.
Speaker 2: I think it's weird that this is this weird like
Speaker 2: lane that they keep occupying.
Speaker 4: Well, it's I think it's then it like clearly they
Speaker 4: stole that from people that were already kind of using it, right,
Speaker 4: it's like a real thing. And like I think I
Speaker 4: might be wrong here, but I think that originally that
Speaker 4: came from like like internet like tanky types were really
Speaker 4: into the USSR and would do like like the I
Speaker 4: mean the first one I ever saw was Lenin, and
Speaker 4: it would be like if you were arguing with someone
Speaker 4: and they didn't make a radical left enough point, you'd
Speaker 4: sort of like throw this Lenin with laser by. His
Speaker 4: whole thing in history was that he was within the
Speaker 4: far left. He was like no, no, no, no, need to
Speaker 4: go way more hardcore. Yeah, so like right, which is
Speaker 4: crazy that we don't talk about that much underrated right,
Speaker 4: but he uh, but like that's from an internet like
Speaker 4: niche subculture that I think that they must have focused
Speaker 4: grouped this stuff really hard before, like just straight up stealing.
Speaker 4: And I say that because like you see that a
Speaker 4: lot of the advertisers and stuff, how like, yeah, this
Speaker 4: bums me out about the Internet. A lot. Stuff will
Speaker 4: organically occur and it's like fun for us all to
Speaker 4: play with, and then about six months later they've figured
Speaker 4: out a way to use it to like sell stuff.
Speaker 4: So like last year there was like this meme he's
Speaker 4: a ten but YadA YadA YadA, which yeah, I just
Speaker 4: noticed that like a few months ago. I started getting
Speaker 4: commercials like every time I watch something on like Hulu
Speaker 4: or something that and it'll be like he's a ten,
Speaker 4: but he doesn't use roll aids or something, and it sucks.
Speaker 4: And then but it also it's weird that it's echoing
Speaker 4: so far after the original thing happened. And I think
Speaker 4: it's because there was a process of them really like
Speaker 4: kicking the tires on it and going, are we gonna
Speaker 4: get sued if we do this? And I think it's
Speaker 4: kind of what's happening here is like this thing is
Speaker 4: it's reappearing in something like the Biden administration's like campaign
Speaker 4: thing because it's it's from the Internet a few years
Speaker 4: ago at least yea, and they just sort of realized, oh,
Speaker 4: we can just do this too, and like, no one's
Speaker 4: really going to get mad at us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Internet is just like a giant writer's room
Speaker 1: focus group for corporate America. That's basically how they view it.
Speaker 1: And they're just like, Okay, well it changed enough from
Speaker 1: the first one to the seventh one that we can
Speaker 1: just claim that it's like, you know, not not any
Speaker 1: one individual's creation, and so we we just yeah, just
Speaker 1: steal ideas, just steal intellectual property.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it really it sucks if you're if you
Speaker 4: like especially if you're like a comic that's on Twitter
Speaker 4: all the time. Because you are just kind of sitting
Speaker 4: there like going like I'm just giving, Like I'm just
Speaker 4: throwing chum into this huge well that they I just
Speaker 4: mix metaphors, but they like they take.
Speaker 2: I chum my well, yeah you water all nice intestiny.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, It's it's really weird. I don't I'm not
Speaker 2: sure exactly what the point of it is other than
Speaker 2: to appeal to someone who's already done making jokes about
Speaker 2: this thing. And I truly think it kind of it
Speaker 2: might not just be like focus groups and whatnot. I
Speaker 2: think sometimes it just comes up organically where someone's NEPO
Speaker 2: baby is walking around on their phone and then the
Speaker 2: person who who birthed them is like, oh shit, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take that to a board meeting tomorrow, and then
Speaker 2: they just kind of kick the idea around, take forever
Speaker 2: to develop the idea, and by the time the commercial
Speaker 2: comes out, it's too irrelevant for anyone to care about.
Speaker 4: So it's also one of those things where like slang
Speaker 4: is like the point of it is for young people
Speaker 4: to speak kind of in code and like make fun
Speaker 4: of older people, and like, you know, a word is
Speaker 4: dead when you hear your parent say it, like it
Speaker 4: as a way of migrating through society up to the
Speaker 4: people that are in charge of everything, and then like yeah,
Speaker 4: your teacher is like you know, it's busting and you're like, ah,
Speaker 4: it's over.
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah.
Speaker 1: And it is frustrating that like all authorship has been
Speaker 1: taken out of the internet. The Internet. It's just like yeah,
Speaker 1: but you said it on the Internet, so now it's
Speaker 1: now it's totally cool for the Freedo La Corporation to
Speaker 1: use your brilliant joke.
Speaker 2: That's that's the worst part, is I mean, stuff I
Speaker 2: said when I was in middle school is now just
Speaker 2: bubbled up to like, you know, my sixty seven year
Speaker 2: old neighbor and they like mention it as I'm walking past,
Speaker 2: and it kind of you're just like, you know, I
Speaker 2: understand like trying to relate to people, but there's a
Speaker 2: certain point where like you're kind of demeaning them. I
Speaker 2: think if you're just like, well, this is the this
Speaker 2: is how you people talk, right, and it's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, just just drop it. Just just be you.
Speaker 2: That's that's the main lesson.
Speaker 1: Just that's how we spoke like twenty years ago, and
Speaker 1: now that you just said that I have to go
Speaker 1: back to bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's.
Speaker 1: How deflate it is for me to hear you say that.
Speaker 1: So it's like the White House actually started using this
Speaker 1: meme last summer, tweeting dark Brandon memes along with good
Speaker 1: news for Biden, like so that they're just like, yep,
Speaker 1: got it. Apparently Biden himself reportedly found it funny. But
Speaker 1: I just want to read the Biden's twenty twenty campaign
Speaker 1: manager's explanation of the meme. The memes are a light
Speaker 1: take quote, a light take on the fact that Biden
Speaker 1: actually has abilities and power that most elected officials don't,
Speaker 1: and he wields it in his own way. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think that's Oh I don't think that's what
Speaker 1: the memes are. Man, I gotta tell you, I don't
Speaker 1: think you got that right.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Wait, since when does this man have superpowers for anyone?
Speaker 2: What are you what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, he has like dementia, right, yeah, he has dementia,
Speaker 4: the same thing.
Speaker 1: I guess a level, it's it does seem like the
Speaker 1: joke works at a level of like this is so
Speaker 1: far from what is actually true about him, and like
Speaker 1: they have taken it to be like, there's actually a
Speaker 1: kernel of truth in there, and Biden is actually a
Speaker 1: super intense, cool person who I think kids would want
Speaker 1: to play with an action figure of if we made them.
Speaker 1: So just throwing that out there, and then on the
Speaker 1: other side of the twenty twenty four presidential race, presumably
Speaker 1: assuming you know he's not. I don't know, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Trump, right, we can all agree it's going to
Speaker 1: be Trump. There's just nobody else like so yeah. So
Speaker 1: Egene Carol's civil case against Trump for allegedly raping her
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six and then denying it went to
Speaker 1: trial this week. She unequivocally stated under oath, I'm here
Speaker 1: because Donald Trump raped me, and when I wrote about it,
Speaker 1: he said it didn't happen, so very straightforward. The New
Speaker 1: York Times gave it like a little little tiny blurb
Speaker 1: on the front page. And I don't know, it's like
Speaker 1: we I think they've known that this story where he
Speaker 1: happened for a long time, and maybe like part of
Speaker 1: them is just responding to the fact that Trump, like
Speaker 1: we we knew this stuff stuff about him before he
Speaker 1: was elected president in twenty sixteen, but it still feels
Speaker 1: weird that it's not a bigger story. But the mainstream
Speaker 1: media has been carrying water for rapist presidents for that
Speaker 1: I don't know, goes back to like Thomas Jefferson, the
Speaker 1: Grover Cleveland won So like there's this Newsweek article that's
Speaker 1: like other presidents who have been accused of sexual assault,
Speaker 1: and they.
Speaker 4: Talked about weird that they yeah, yeah, it's true, but
Speaker 4: it's just like what are they trying to say, like
Speaker 4: it's not a big deal, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they talked about Grover Cleveland, which I didn't
Speaker 1: even I knew that there was. Grover Cleveland had this
Speaker 1: like illegitimate child scandal. But the details are like he
Speaker 1: committed rape and like told the in question he would
Speaker 1: do everything in his power to destroy her if she
Speaker 1: told anyone like then and there after the assault and
Speaker 1: then the media was just like he's got an illegitimate child.
Speaker 1: They just like just kept it moving and like that
Speaker 1: That's how it like came down in history. Was just
Speaker 1: like this guy really likes the ladies or some shit.
Speaker 4: It was scandal during his presidency or his campaign.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was during his campaign, like yeah.
Speaker 4: And it was doing the Lindy Hop to this.
Speaker 1: Lindy hop into this piece of information. I learned about
Speaker 1: it as being like a story about like mud slinging
Speaker 1: during presidential election. Mmm.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, spin that history class puts on ship like
Speaker 2: this is is wild. Yeah, it seems like if society
Speaker 2: was going to give anyone a pass, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a former president. Like it's he keep seeing stuff like
Speaker 2: has happened, and like the message is always the same,
Speaker 2: and the punishments are always like unequal or they don't
Speaker 2: happen for a certain group of people, Like it's wild,
Speaker 2: Like Jonathan Major's, you know, alleged horrible assault of a
Speaker 2: woman should have faced all the consequences he's facing, and
Speaker 2: then but it was so quick and immediate. And then
Speaker 2: you have Ezra Miller, like they're literally kidnapping people and
Speaker 2: you know, menacing a twelve year old and the marketing
Speaker 2: just goes like it like nothing happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If if you I just yeah, I think if you
Speaker 2: look at all of these things, there's there's a clear message.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was just reading something today about Jonathan
Speaker 2: Mullaney having his special out, and I want to preface
Speaker 2: this by saying that I'm not comparing Jonathan Mulaney's substance
Speaker 2: abuse issues with the violent crime that Donald Trump or
Speaker 2: Jonathan Majors has been accused of. It's just that the
Speaker 2: messages seem to be reserved for a particular group. And
Speaker 2: so they were talking about, you know, him having his
Speaker 2: problems with substance abuse and whatnot, and them comparing that
Speaker 2: to like Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears and Amanda Binds
Speaker 2: and like, there's no pictures of him. Again, not saying
Speaker 2: he should be publicly shamed or whatever, it's just that
Speaker 2: when someone like again Robert Downey Jr. Has his problem
Speaker 2: with struggles or whatever, in the media, there's a focus
Speaker 2: on this is a historical fact and not who the
Speaker 2: person is. And then when it's a person of color
Speaker 2: or a woman, it's like, this is who they are
Speaker 2: and we should label them as such forever. And it's
Speaker 2: frustrating that it's not equal when someone when someone heard
Speaker 2: someone or whatever the like. I think we should all
Speaker 2: feel good when that person gets punished, as they should.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why it's like, well, hey, look at
Speaker 2: how other many powerful men have been accused. This is
Speaker 2: this is a little historical factoid as opposed to like
Speaker 2: going even an inch further and questioning why this keeps happening.
Speaker 2: It's God, that's maddening.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just watched that in Lanny Special, like right before
Speaker 4: we started recording, and it's pretty good, and I.
Speaker 2: Thought it's good.
Speaker 4: He's I thought it was good because it was honest
Speaker 4: and yeah, you know, it was kind of humanizing. And
Speaker 4: I think, like I kind of I kind of disagree
Speaker 4: with what you just said, which is, like you said,
Speaker 4: we should sort of all, you know, take part in
Speaker 4: punishing all these people. I kind of think we should
Speaker 4: all give the the compassion that we structurally unfairly only
Speaker 4: give to these white guys like that, should everyone gets
Speaker 4: you hip Like I'm a laya.
Speaker 2: No no, no, I no, I didn't mean we all
Speaker 2: should take part in someone. What I met was that
Speaker 2: we should all not even all take part in punishing
Speaker 2: anyone like hey, now we're going to shame you or
Speaker 2: anything like that. I mean that, And I specified if
Speaker 2: you hurt someone I'm talking about, you know, especially when
Speaker 2: it comes to like assault and like being accused of
Speaker 2: like violence and stuff like that. Donmaliney, I don't believe
Speaker 2: it's been accused of anything violent So I wasn't really
Speaker 2: equating those two scenarios. I just mean that, like as
Speaker 2: a whole, the message has been that if you're a
Speaker 2: woman or a person of color, it doesn't matter whether
Speaker 2: you had a mental health crisis or committed a violent crime,
Speaker 2: which are very very different things. They're both weighed equally
Speaker 2: and will likely end your career swiftly and you probably
Speaker 2: won't get a second chance. With few exceptions, but if
Speaker 2: you're a successful white man, you might not have to
Speaker 2: face any consequences for anything you do, and even if
Speaker 2: you do, people will be will to let you come back,
Speaker 2: yeah without piling on.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's inconsistent for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But anyways, MULLENNI special decent. I haven't watched it, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's good. I'm not again, this isn't This
Speaker 2: isn't an indictment of John Mulaney or anything. I'm this
Speaker 2: is an indictment of like the media, and again when
Speaker 2: you when you have someone again, like someone who dealt
Speaker 2: with substance abuse issues and mental health issues in public,
Speaker 2: like Britney Spears, and then everything that even to this day,
Speaker 2: if she posts a picture of herself dancing, people question
Speaker 2: her mental health.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's inconsistent that they get zero and everyone else
Speaker 4: gets a negative number or whatever, they get kind of
Speaker 4: a neutral response. They're kind of treated like as if
Speaker 4: it's it's made as easy as possible for them to
Speaker 4: like get past or whatever, and that I think you're
Speaker 4: you know, you're probably write that this is like at
Speaker 4: least it's very at least like the media is like
Speaker 4: a mechanism by which this happens. But like it also
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's probably just like deep into like
Speaker 4: huge ideological structural stuff in the way that just like
Speaker 4: everyone is thinking right now too, because like I mean,
Speaker 4: you just I don't know, I'm on the internet all
Speaker 4: the time. You Internet it's a fuck cess pool, and
Speaker 4: you read people's takes on this sort of stuff, and
Speaker 4: it's frustrating because you see it coming straight from people
Speaker 4: where they don't even realize that they have this wild
Speaker 4: inconsistency or talked about if they happen to be somebody
Speaker 4: who is like, Okay, let's bring this back to this
Speaker 4: Trump thing, right, people that like him, they're gonna give
Speaker 4: this a pass and they're gonna focus on the similar
Speaker 4: thing that the other guy has been accused of at
Speaker 4: kind of inconsistencily or whatever, and uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I feel like the New York Times
Speaker 1: has taken that into the equation and is like downplaying
Speaker 1: or like not publicizing the story as much because they're like, well,
Speaker 1: his followers aren't gonna give a shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sad. Yeah, this is all just a liit,
Speaker 4: Like this is like a litmus test. Like you you
Speaker 4: take a dipstick and you stick it into the Internet
Speaker 4: and you pull it out and you full like things
Speaker 4: are bad like the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, just to the millenniy question, Like
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see like how much this defines
Speaker 1: his legacy. But I just remember growing up, the first
Speaker 1: thing I learned about Richard Pryor was like that he
Speaker 1: set himself on fire while smoking cocaine, you know, like that,
Speaker 1: And I think that's the like it's subtle things like
Speaker 1: that where it's like, okay, just in your point that
Speaker 1: like one group, it becomes the defining thing about them as.
Speaker 4: Opposed to true for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about the Ten Commandments and Black Mirror,
Speaker 1: and we're back and the Ten Commandments are in the
Speaker 1: news again that my brain just turns off usually when
Speaker 1: I see this shit. But the Texas Senate just passed
Speaker 1: a bill requiring each public school classroom to display a
Speaker 1: copy of the Ten Commandments.
Speaker 4: They'll be on display at my shows at the Velvet Good.
Speaker 4: I put them behind me every time I perform. But yeah,
Speaker 4: especially large in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: So which ones do you put? Because there are actually
Speaker 1: two ten Commandments in the Bible, and the second one
Speaker 1: like the revised edition, because I guess I remember the
Speaker 1: part where like Moses, I guess, like breaks them like
Speaker 1: it has them on tablet and then breaks them and
Speaker 1: then like I guess, there's like a week into Bernie's
Speaker 1: two where he has to like go back up and
Speaker 1: like do it again, but like this time, the Commandments
Speaker 1: have things like this. This is one of the ten
Speaker 1: commandments in the in the Bible, all that openeth the
Speaker 1: matrix is mine. First of all, that's the trippiest fuck.
Speaker 1: And every first thing among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep,
Speaker 1: that is male very specific. Also, thou shalt not see
Speaker 1: a kid in his mother's milk. So it's like very
Speaker 1: farming farming related just instructions on how to rear your cattle.
Speaker 1: Is the tank Commandments? I think they if they were
Speaker 1: willing to make that the ten Commandments that they put
Speaker 1: in courtrooms, I think that would be at least funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm I think I'd be shocked to learn, like how
Speaker 2: many things in our society are based around like just farming,
Speaker 2: just old world like agricultural tent poles that we just
Speaker 2: kept going and didn't question. Uh wow, that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you were just talking about how we
Speaker 1: shouldn't see a kid in his mother's milk, like, come
Speaker 1: to find out the origin of that belief within the
Speaker 1: set ten Commandments two point zero.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite bars that I heard in
Speaker 2: that that Wu tang check don't don't put the seed
Speaker 2: in the Maybe, I don't know, weird.
Speaker 4: What does it mean to see the child?
Speaker 1: No idea?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's all kinds of four chan, I think,
Speaker 2: and going on in that sentence right there, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't want to investigate for it.
Speaker 4: That's a good point. This was their four chan back
Speaker 4: in the day because they didn't have the Internet.
Speaker 2: True this was a post and got weird real quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a weird re edited post. Yes, oh, hold on,
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to type the subject like that.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to start talking about the matrix at
Speaker 1: the beginning of that one, but it seemed to get
Speaker 1: a reaction, so we'll just go with that. But this
Speaker 1: is all a thing because the Supreme Court announced a
Speaker 1: vague new History and Tradition test to replace the last
Speaker 1: fifty years of Establishment Clause law. So it's basically around
Speaker 1: that football coach who raid on the field and got
Speaker 1: fired because they were like, people don't want you to
Speaker 1: do that, and he insisted on doing it.
Speaker 4: And so the weirdest think about hardcore like Red State
Speaker 4: Republicans is that they claim to be into like these
Speaker 4: American ideals. One of the biggest ones is separation of
Speaker 4: church and state. Like they love the Founding Fathers and
Speaker 4: they're talking about a lot, have tattoos of them and
Speaker 4: the airbrushed on their truck and stuff. And one of
Speaker 4: their first big things was this.
Speaker 1: That was like their main like they were always talking
Speaker 1: about that shit like that was. Yeah, they've just edited
Speaker 1: that part out. I get the feeling that these people
Speaker 1: are not big on primary document looking at primary sources
Speaker 1: and reading reading unedited you know, documents of what the
Speaker 1: founding fathers were worried about.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyways, it's a mess. Also, Black Mirror is
Speaker 1: coming back in June. It just feels weird now, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems like the time for Black
Speaker 1: Mirror has passed. I don't know, we'll have to see
Speaker 1: what but what what these are like, but it just
Speaker 1: feels like too many of the things have are already
Speaker 1: happening from the previous one. So maybe they'll have to
Speaker 1: just like ramp it up.
Speaker 2: But do you think it's possible to get more surreal?
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, it's hard for a whole season
Speaker 2: to get to be pulled off well when it's when
Speaker 2: something is as lofty of an idea.
Speaker 1: But I as predicting the near future.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I do think I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's necessarily. I always took it as like this could happen.
Speaker 2: I think I don't want to put all the pressure
Speaker 2: of like they're predicting necessarily. But I like the idea,
Speaker 2: the thought experiment of Black Mirror, so I like that
Speaker 2: it's going as like an art experiment, but yeah, it
Speaker 2: will it be good. I don't know. They've had some
Speaker 2: really shitty episodes, so sure, we'll see.
Speaker 1: That's what's good about Uh. You know this type of
Speaker 1: show is you can have a shitty one off and
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I don't know, yah, get to
Speaker 1: the one.
Speaker 4: I love Black Mirror because they swing for the fences
Speaker 4: and yes, absolutely sometimes, but when they hit it's really good,
Speaker 4: you know exactly. It's like Twilight Zone formulaic type thing.
Speaker 4: Every time you watch it, you're like, oh, what's the
Speaker 4: thing going to be? But like, and I think it's
Speaker 4: an interesting question you asked, like can it happen now?
Speaker 4: Because like I think the last time they released the
Speaker 4: show was kind of before the pandemic, which is one
Speaker 4: of the more recent like milestones where we went, oh
Speaker 4: my god, we're through the looking glass. Right, But if
Speaker 4: you remember years ago when they the last season of
Speaker 4: Black Mirror they put out, if you lived in New
Speaker 4: York City at least, I guess I remember seeing these
Speaker 4: ads everywhere, like on the sides of bus stops and stuff,
Speaker 4: where the ad would be like black Mirror and then
Speaker 4: like the rest of the poster was a mirror and
Speaker 4: it would I think the bit like I care exactly
Speaker 4: how they worded it, but it was like you're living
Speaker 4: in it, like yeah, the new season, it's already here
Speaker 4: because everything felt so weird and like you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: I was just talking to somebody about this yesterday, like
Speaker 4: we kind of there's this feeling in the air right
Speaker 4: now where like we're in the upside down land like
Speaker 4: it we it feels like we are through the looking
Speaker 4: glass and everything's weird. But it's kind of felt like
Speaker 4: that for like a long time, like every Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 4: like I think me and my friend laster day were
Speaker 4: sitting around We're trying to figure out what the what
Speaker 4: the first one was, and like I think like they
Speaker 4: were like somebody was like, oh, maybe remember when Trump
Speaker 4: was like running for president. That was the first time
Speaker 4: you were like am I on acid right now? Like
Speaker 4: why is reality so weird? But then before that, like
Speaker 4: there was you know, the the like protests and like
Speaker 4: the police stuff and like Ferguson I remember being really yeah,
Speaker 4: and then like occupy before that and stuff. I think
Speaker 4: like this, it's actually I think you can keep doing
Speaker 4: black mirrors. Guess what I guess what I'm saying because
Speaker 4: like it's going to continue to feel like this forever.
Speaker 4: Like every couple of years, something's gonna happen where you're
Speaker 4: just gonna go, oh my god, like reality's bending apart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I don't. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: like I don't think they should. It's just like I
Speaker 1: feel like the public mood is probably like, oh fuck,
Speaker 1: because they've gotten so much, right, it's like, do we
Speaker 1: want to look and do our near future at like
Speaker 1: what like just counting off some of the things that
Speaker 1: they've gotten, like eerily specifically. Right, there's the robot dogs,
Speaker 1: which were immediately unleashed by the NYPD, the AI that
Speaker 1: recreates your dead loved ones. As we mentioned earlier, that's
Speaker 1: already happening. They had an episode about an annoying TV
Speaker 1: celebrity running for political office, and The AV Club wrote
Speaker 1: at the time that there's just not enough there to
Speaker 1: suggest that Waldo's moment would last much longer than fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: And then and then Trump got elected president and yeah
Speaker 1: turned out Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was so Yeah. I guess I can say because
Speaker 2: I watched that episode after the Waldo moment, after Trump
Speaker 2: had been elected, and so I guess I can say
Speaker 2: like the episode, it didn't take anything away from the episode.
Speaker 2: It just made it like there was an absurdest angle
Speaker 2: to it because people were voting for a cartoon character
Speaker 2: in that episode in particular, and the cartoon character was
Speaker 2: like blew up so big that the guy playing it
Speaker 2: became unwound and really like upset that he wasn't getting
Speaker 2: any credit, and so into that there. Even in that story,
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a guy behind the mask
Speaker 2: having some sort of soul and like, you know, not
Speaker 2: liking what's happening to the image of this thing he created.
Speaker 2: And in reality, Donald Trump doesn't give a shit, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Just a perfect machine of narcissism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's a little more terrifying. So watching
Speaker 2: the episode actually felt a little bit like of a
Speaker 2: reprieve from reality, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, It's like, oh man, and
Speaker 1: I wish it was this simple Black Mirror. I wish
Speaker 1: it was as easy as Black Mirror made it seem,
Speaker 1: even like the one where you record everything through your
Speaker 1: eye like that I think that was season one, right,
Speaker 1: where like they have you have little like recorders in
Speaker 1: your eye that and then you can like play back
Speaker 1: the memories. Like the other day, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: sitting with my kids while they were like playing a game,
Speaker 1: and I was like looking at old videos of my
Speaker 1: kids and like me playing with my kids while I
Speaker 1: could have been playing with my kids, And I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is not good. That Black Mirror episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what I don't like about Black Mirror.
Speaker 4: What's that that they do this thing and it it
Speaker 4: works pretty well, but it's like a little on the
Speaker 4: nose where at the every episode ends with a musical
Speaker 4: cue that is a song that's perfectly like oriented towards
Speaker 4: whatever their commenting on socially. Yeah, but like there was
Speaker 4: an episode which I think was a stinker by the way,
Speaker 4: if anyone's listening for Black Bear, where like shooting happened
Speaker 4: because a guy couldn't stop looking at Twitter on his phone,
Speaker 4: and then like the ending credits were like, can't take
Speaker 4: my eyes off of you. It was on the nose. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So that's I'm more less less. I'm less worried about
Speaker 4: this meta stuff you're talking about, Jack, and I'm more
Speaker 4: just worried about the writing content of the show because
Speaker 4: it's it's crazy. I kind of can't believe how much
Speaker 4: I like Black Mirror, because like, the guy who made
Speaker 4: it made some other stuff that I do not joy.
Speaker 4: But he's what's the other stuff? He mean is Charlie Booker.
Speaker 4: Charlie Brooker, he made this. Man, I'm sorry, this is
Speaker 4: very popular show. I'm sorry if you hear this, Charlie Brooker.
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, though, you know, I have to
Speaker 4: be authentic or else. I don know. I don't know
Speaker 4: what will happen. But he made this. He makes this
Speaker 4: thing at the end of the year every year that's
Speaker 4: like a re look back on the year and how
Speaker 4: horrible it was. And it kind of has this thing
Speaker 4: I'm talking about where with every year we're like, that
Speaker 4: was the worst year of all time and it was
Speaker 4: just rapping. Every year, it always the logo of it
Speaker 4: is always a dumpster on fire, which is like the
Speaker 4: oldest internet joke in the book Man. Yeah, Hi, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Hire me to write for the
Speaker 4: New Black Mirror, please, I got notes. I think that's
Speaker 4: what we're learning. Jake needs to write for the New
Speaker 4: Black Mirror. You need to not Charlie Brooker. That would
Speaker 4: truly be a Dystopian Universe. Think about that. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was writing for your TV show.
Speaker 1: Among the guest stars samahay K, Zazzy Beats, Aaron Paul,
Speaker 1: and Josh Hartnett.
Speaker 4: Okay, wow, all right man.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I'll definitely watch the ship. I actually, I mean
Speaker 1: that's may not be true. I really just watched the
Speaker 1: Black Mirror episodes that everyone's like, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: good one, and I skip most of them. Whereas when
Speaker 1: the when the first season dropped and like it was
Speaker 1: only on like only available in the UK and you
Speaker 1: had to like pirate it and stuff. That was that
Speaker 1: was like the most anticipated content of like that year.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, I've you heard about the show Black
Speaker 1: Mirror and now it's like all available on Netflix, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll watch like twenty percent of them. I'll
Speaker 1: watch the ones that Jake says are good on Twitter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm watching the ones that someone else said
Speaker 4: are good. So it's a filter. It nice before we
Speaker 4: get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Jake, truly a pleasure having you on the
Speaker 1: Daily Zeiceist as always, Where can people find you? Follow
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff.
Speaker 4: It's been a great time. Thanks for having me back
Speaker 4: to to see you guys. I am all over the internet.
Speaker 4: My handle on everything is at feral jokes, which is
Speaker 4: an anagram for my name, which is Jake Flores Barrel,
Speaker 4: like an animal jokes like jokes. Yeah, people don't realize
Speaker 4: it like that, and then they yeah, it's easier to
Speaker 4: host stuff this way because my name gets stolen and
Speaker 4: stuff and used for websites. Yeah. So that's that's me
Speaker 4: all of the Internet. I'm on Twitter a lot, I'm
Speaker 4: on Instagram, I have a TikTok. I don't really use it,
Speaker 4: but maybe i'll start. And if you're in Austin, Texas,
Speaker 4: like I said, I'll be at the Velvet Room May
Speaker 4: twenty sixth and twenty seventh. I think they got that right.
Speaker 4: There's two shows one night, one show the other night.
Speaker 4: Check it out. Velvederrooom dot COM's the website. And I
Speaker 4: live in New York and I you stand up here
Speaker 4: and end up kind of all over the place, So
Speaker 4: just keep keep an eyeball on me and I'll probably
Speaker 4: be where you are soon doing stand up. Oh in
Speaker 4: My podcast is called Poddamn America. It's a comedy podcast
Speaker 4: that's left leaning politically and kind of has the laser
Speaker 4: eyeball things we were talking about earlier going on, but smarter,
Speaker 4: I hope, than what the internet it has to offer. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that show while You're mad. That's it.
Speaker 1: There you go. Is there a tweeter work of media
Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I really I'm glad you asked you this question
Speaker 4: because the tweet I've been enjoying is a tweet by
Speaker 4: Twitter user at Joe Rogan Yes, fired off six thirty
Speaker 4: eight pm November sixteenth, two thousand and nine. It says,
Speaker 4: and it's if you didn't catch that, this is the
Speaker 4: Joe Rogan he tweeted in the year two thousand and
Speaker 4: nine again coma two guys, one horse dot com. Capital
Speaker 4: letters is the Mister Hands video. Capital letters n SFW
Speaker 4: a bunch of exclamation points. It's one of those things
Speaker 4: you capital letters have to see to believe. I don't
Speaker 4: know why he tweeted this, and don't look at it,
Speaker 4: by the way, especially if you don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: It's one of the worst things of all time. But
Speaker 4: I have been enjoying thinking about the fact that, for
Speaker 4: some reason, Joe Rogan tweeted out that you have to
Speaker 4: watch a horrible video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus two thousand and nine seems on brand you've
Speaker 1: changed Rogan or maybe not justin wonderful having you as well.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and is there a working
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: That's been great being here. Thank y'all for having me back.
Speaker 2: You can find me at j con the Smith on
Speaker 2: Instagram and Instagram only. That's at j C O N
Speaker 2: t H E S M I T H. And I
Speaker 2: don't I don't have a piece of media or anything
Speaker 2: I know I will however, though, I'm okay here, I'll
Speaker 2: share this. It'll be on my own account. But I've
Speaker 2: actually been temporarily taking, you know, some time off in
Speaker 2: the middle of the week, so I haven't been doing
Speaker 2: the Wednesday episode. So one of these upcoming Tuesdays, I'm
Speaker 2: actually finally after several years, getting my tattoo that I've
Speaker 2: been thinking about for a long time. I'm getting a
Speaker 2: full sleeve done by an amazing artist. And yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be posting pictures of that up soon. So yeah,
Speaker 2: you just follow me there and check out the tattoo process.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: A couple tweets of it. Harrison winereb tweeted two things
Speaker 1: within an hour of each other that it tweeted I
Speaker 1: hate when the toilet overflows. That's the complete opposite of
Speaker 1: what I was going for. And then also I love
Speaker 1: flushing the toilet. It's like this never happened. I feel
Speaker 1: like a nice window into what was going on in
Speaker 1: their life and also very true great meditations on toilet.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Obrian.
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Speaker 1: we post our episodes on our footnotes linked off to
Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 1: Justin what's a song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: Okay, I have no idea where I came across this track.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about any of the people featured
Speaker 2: on here, but this song as all the references and
Speaker 2: millennials such as myself will recognized, like bars about Phoebe
Speaker 2: from Friends and d D from Dexter's Laboratory. But some
Speaker 2: of the jokes in here are just straight violations it
Speaker 2: sounds just like just a bunch of young kids throwing
Speaker 2: jokes out and it's funny to me. But oh man,
Speaker 2: for example, they in one verse where they're like, my
Speaker 2: crew balled like Cayu, my crew hot like Kayenne, we
Speaker 2: got tunnel vision. Rest in peace to Princess Dian And
Speaker 2: uh yeah, after yesterday's episode, I didn't I was gonna
Speaker 2: recommend this song and I was like, no, not not on,
Speaker 2: not on the car crash sequence we had at the beginning.
Speaker 2: But this song is called CC by Indie Tribe No
Speaker 2: big deal in John Keith and you can find that
Speaker 2: song in the footnotes.
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