1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty four, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Episode five of Dr Daly's II Guys. It's the Big Finale. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: This is still a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: And it is Friday, April twenty eighth, twenty twenty three. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka. It looks crappy. This 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: chocolate head of King Chucky. It must be said he's worthless. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: A royal crime. This penn leaks each stinking time, each 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: stinking time, each sticking time. Uh. That is courtesy a 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: scout Goo on the discord, and I'm thrilled to be 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: joined by a very special guest co host, an artist, 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: a musician, the producer of this very podcast. It's super 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: producer Justin Connor. 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: It's super producer Justin Connor AKA of Sneakers and tattoos 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: and my puppy lions can sue ming Good are at 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: some fancy museums, travel TV well like cook all the things. 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: This aka wasn't written by being okay. In fact, it 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: was written by LACERRONI on the disc road. I I 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: feel like maybe I should stressed that I'm a more 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: confident rapper than singer. 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: I pretty good. 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: I went for the loaf, hanging fruit ended my favorite things. AKA. 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: I know it's felt, its. 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Hacked, but it's a it's a mold that we all, 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, pour ourselves into. 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: Fair Yeah times, yeah, yeah, I appreciate your bravery, sir, 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: and I was transported to wherever the fuck the sound 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: of the sound of music takes place justin We are 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: very funny stand up comedian host. 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Of the Patreon show pot Damn America. I'm assuming it's 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: pronounced like pot damn man Erica, Like wow, you look great. 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Austin Texonian Texans Taxonians can catch him at the Belveto 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Room May sixth and twenty seven. It's the brilliant, the 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: talented Jake Flora. 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: Hello, daily Z, it's good to be here. I didn't 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: bring a song. I didn't know what we're doing that at. 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: The time, right yourself? You brought your voy myself. 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah damn. All the pipes are are good enough. Yeah. 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: Your your voice is a melody. 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, sonorous, crisp resonant. That's great to have you, Jake, 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: how are you doing. How have you been? 43 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: I'm feeling pretty good. I am a terrible singer. I 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 4: did karaoke the other night, and I think I think 45 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 4: I might be tone deaf, Like I literally go to 46 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: a doctor. 47 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: My voice sounds great. It seems like you should be 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: a great karaoke singer of like a Johnny Cash or 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, something like that. 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, only songs that are down here. I think 51 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 4: I can really live in you. 52 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: Ever do boys then, but just do the deep voice. 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: Guy for you. 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm just spitballing here just for you. 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: But at the time you do karaoke, I think you're 56 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: supposed to be bad at karaoke. You can't go up 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: there and blow everyone away. Maybe performance wise, energy wise, 58 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: charisma wise, but if your voice is too good, it's 59 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: kind of it's like cheating, you know. 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 4: People say that and then like like I'm like, no, 61 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: you have to hear it, and then they hear it 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: and they're like you're right. 63 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: There's like you're right, we should never do this again. 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: There's like a level below hell, like a sub type 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: thing where it's like actually not enjoyable. It's just fucking 66 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I've never been to a karaoke anything like, 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: I've never not even a little like boombox like set 69 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: up at like a house party or anything. So I 70 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: don't know how I'm going to react to it when 71 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: I do it, because I plan to at some point, 72 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't imagine it's going 73 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: to be very good either, But I think the point 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: is to have fun, so you know, get out there. 75 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: The point is to have fun, and I will make 76 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: it not fun. I also won't have fun, which is weird. 77 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: I get nervous doing it, and I'm a stand up comic, 78 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: like I talking to him. Yeah, talking no problem is 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: as a switch to singing. I get. It's like the 80 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: first time on stage again. It really Yeah yeah. 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I think peer pressure works on me, like when I 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: have to perform, like I just turn it on. I 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: just if I have to be there. I kind of 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: I reach for something deep in my soul, but it's 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: not I don't know if it's enjoyable because I kind 86 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: of black out. 87 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: So I hope it from just drinking copious amounts of vodka, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: that's the I just kind of black out. I this 89 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: weird thing where I get on stage and blackout after 90 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: drinking a handle of vodka. All right, well, Jake, we're 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: thrilled to have you here. We're gonna get to know 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, a 93 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: few of the things we're talking about today. Biden's campaign 94 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: has kicked off. It's all, it's all anyone's talking about. 95 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: We're all excited. His website is embracing the dark Brandon meme. 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about the Dark Mega, the Dark 97 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: Brandon w I. Both sides are embracing those as like 98 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: good things for their for their respective sides. Trump. The 99 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: rape trial of Donald Trump civil suit brought by Egen 100 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: Carroll started didn't get that much attention from the New 101 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: York Times or anyone. So we'll just talk about that 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: black Mirror is coming back. We'll talk about why that's 103 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: kind of a bummer because they just keep telling us 104 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: like what's about to happen in our society. We might 105 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: even talk about the Ten Commandments and why they stink 106 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: all that plenty more. But first, Jake, I know, fucking harsh. 107 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: Take the Ten Commandments stink, That's right, we said, Jake. 108 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Before we get to any of that, bullshit, though, we 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: do like to ask our guest, what is something from 110 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: your search history? 111 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: Oh? What an invasive question? Yes you know this, Yeah, 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: that made me nervous when I that, or will like. 113 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Take some passwords whatever you want to get. It's just 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, mother's maid of course. 115 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: So I looked at this and I don't really have 116 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: anything that damning I think in here. But I did. 117 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: I did google recently Chewy promo code because I use 118 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 4: this website Chewy to buy like cat litter and stuff 119 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: for my cat. And I was I had a bunch 120 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: of like cat food and stuff queued up the other day, 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: and I think what I happened is I went on 122 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: like like a coupon website and I was trying to 123 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 4: find I was trying to steal cat food. I guess 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: it is something. Yeah, I feel like says something about 125 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: me because I love my cat, but I'm still like 126 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 4: a criminal about it. You know, he's very large, so 127 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: he needs a lot and it's really breaking the bank 128 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 4: over here. But yeah, no, I tried to use one 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 4: of those coupon websites like that. I feel like used 130 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: to work like twenty years ago or something, you know, 131 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: just generate coupons and it didn't work, so fucker. That's sad, 132 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: But I just paid for the food anyway. 133 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's where I'm at. I have a lovely 134 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: pit bull mix and she she eats a lot as well, 135 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: and uh, I've also gone through the same thing. These 136 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: coupons are some bullshit. And also like, I don't know, 137 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I think like this 138 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: dog is my first dog, and I really had ideas 139 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: about what I was gonna do with her in terms 140 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: of like, oh yeah, I'm gonna start cooking her food 141 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna make sure it's all nutritious and good. 142 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: And then life kind of, you know, makes things spin 143 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: out of control. And I really just went for a 144 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: mix of like dry food and vegetable food. But this 145 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: shit is so expensive, and if anyone out there and 146 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: zeitgang has like a plug for cheap but very like healthy, 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: good for your pets animal food, please hook it up. 148 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: Let me know, because I'm searching out here and I 149 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: can't find anything. 150 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know what, I think we just 151 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: invented dog food, not bombs. 152 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: There you go, let's do it. 153 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 154 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 1: I feel like that, as with everything on the Internet. 155 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: The cupun codes like just got fucked up. Like it 156 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: went from being a cool thing to immediately be like 157 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: asking you invasive questions and asking you for information and 158 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: like feeling like you were, you know, crippling. You are 159 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: hard drive, you know, like you have to like sign 160 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: up for a mailing list or some shit to get 161 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the cupun And I know that wasn't all of them, 162 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: but it just felt like increasingly it felt like you 163 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: were clicking on a pop up ad whenever you would 164 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: sign up for one of these cupunk codes. 165 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: Not to jump like too far ahead to black Mirror 166 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: and all that stuff, but like, uh, you know, with 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 4: like the AI thing, it's I think, like it's I 168 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: feel like it now. You can feel it now anything 169 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: you do on the internet, you're just like, man, I'm 170 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: giving these people so much of my data and they're like, yeah, 171 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: at me through my webcam, making another be over there 172 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: and stuff just like feels weird. 173 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely worried about the amount of my voice 174 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: that I've put on the Internet. Like I truly think 175 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: they could recreate me at will, like that I could 176 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: be a recreat This could be just an AI generated 177 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: version of me. That you're listening to right now. 178 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been thinking about that recently, and it's 179 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: I mean it might not even be you know, your choice. 180 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: Like at some point maybe one of your like younger 181 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: relatives will be like, Hey, you know what I'm going 182 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: to recreate Jack with Because there's so many hours of 183 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: voice out there, I can just give it to some 184 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: AI specialist. I saw some woman who did that the 185 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: other day. That comedian from Vacancy was like a magic comedian. 186 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: It was like Dave something. 187 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: What was his name, Oh, the amazing Jonathan, Yeah. 188 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: Amazing Jonathan. Yeah, yes, Dave, the amazing john Amazing. 189 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: How I knew we were talking about. 190 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was a I congratulate you O for 191 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: that because it wasn't a great description. But he passed 192 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: I think during the pandemic, and I'm not sure if 193 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: it was pandemic related, but his partner pretty much had 194 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: him recreated voice wise, and yeah, I'm not sure necessarily, 195 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: I guess it's up to each person. She's using it 196 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: as like a therapy tool. It's it's interesting the technology, yeah, 197 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: and all the ways it could go. But I wouldn't 198 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: want a company getting a hold of my shit. 199 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 4: That's yeah. 200 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean that is straight up a Black Mayor episode. 201 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I think they make comparisons to it. 202 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: Also during the thing a little clip I saw, but yeah, 203 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: it's it's fascinating and I don't mean to derail the conversation, 204 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: but to take it back to the coupon thing, I 205 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: feel like, I don't know if this is necessarily connected, 206 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: but I feel like companies that do like the payment 207 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: plan thing like that has been pushed more over like 208 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: coupon stuff now like oh buy no pay later, like 209 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Klarna and like all that kind of stuff. I've been 210 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: seeing way more advertising for that kind of shit lately. 211 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, all you have to do is give us control 212 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: of your bank account and you can just pay whenever 213 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: you want because we will take the money out ourselves. 214 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was just gonna say, I love subscribing to 215 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 4: my refrigerator because the thing about the future that we 216 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: live in. 217 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 218 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: Anyway, sorry, go ahead. 219 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? 220 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: Listen? I want a disclaimer here that I'm a provocative 221 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 4: comedian and I like to make people mad on purpose 222 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 4: before I say this, but I've been watching The Sopranos 223 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: for the first time in my life, and it's pretty good, 224 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: but I think it might be not as good maybe 225 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: as people say it is. And it's still pretty good, 226 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: and I get why it was a big deal, but 227 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: I need a vent about this because I'm personally kind 228 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: of exhausted with it because it's very long, and it's 229 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 4: like and it's not the show's fault, it's it's just 230 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: that like it's from a different era, I think, and 231 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: people had more of an attention span and it was 232 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: like the only show like itself. There were just less 233 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: shows like that around, so people had a lot of 234 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: hours to invest in this damn family. 235 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: But I also had time to ruminate between episodes, like 236 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: what you had time to marinate on what happened, as 237 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: opposed to just like let's just bends the whole thing 238 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: and forget that you even watched it. 239 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's like part of how the form plays 240 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: into this, you know. And I've just had like so 241 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: many people be like, oh, you know when you say 242 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 4: you haven't seen something, and it hurts people's guts inside. 243 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So I feel like I should. I 244 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: really wish Miles was here. He's the right person to 245 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: bring this topic too, because I actually I'm in the 246 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: same boat as you. I've seen a few episodes of 247 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: The Sopranos. I've never sat down and watched and I 248 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: don't right. Oh no, I was just talking about how 249 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: I need to give this a actual try and watch 250 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: the whole thing chronologically. But who has the time? Now? 251 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: You know, anytime saying something is pretty good is like 252 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: a declaration of war that thing might be overrated because 253 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: like people, Yeah, that is a highly controversial opinion. 254 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: I have not. 255 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I have not done the rewatch of this Pranos. I 256 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: watched it when it came out. Oh, I know, which 257 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: is the equivalent of like, what how you can't even 258 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: talk about television if you haven't rewatched it all chronologically, 259 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: if you haven't watched the cut where they actually start 260 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: off with the flashbacks and then move forward in time. 261 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the thing, but it's yeah. 262 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: I remember when I was watching it being exhausted by it, 263 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: like there being episodes where not much really happened. I'd 264 00:13:54,160 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: imagine upon rewatch like that would those episodes would be 265 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: better and more enjoyable, because you know what, once you 266 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen, like you're not your brain's 267 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: not like being like, oh, what's gonna happen next, and 268 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,479 Speaker 1: like eager just like for plot. 269 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: But how much filler would you say? There is like 270 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: a percentage wise. 271 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: The filler is pretty good, but it is there is 272 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of filler. 273 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: I would say it's like Italian food, like it's a 274 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: lot of bread, you know. 275 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's enjoyable, but yeah, okay. 276 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have like enough time to have a part 277 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: time job that is watching the Sopranos. 278 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I have. I think I have to watch 279 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: it because it is one of those things where it's 280 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: like I think it's up there with the wire too, 281 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: like if you haven't seen it, you can't comment on 282 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's like mandatory having to have seen it. 283 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: But I just, uh, yeah, I don't have the time anymore, 284 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: and I do have enough, Like enough of these moments 285 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: pop up now too. I think because of the version 286 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: of the Internet we have now and the way social 287 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: media is, you don't have to necessarily even watch stuff 288 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: to know every single cultural touchtone that comes from that 289 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: piece of media. You get all the references, you get 290 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: all the jokes through memes or whatever. And I'm not 291 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: saying that's good or that that's better. It's just weird 292 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: to me how I can understand many sopranos like jokes, 293 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: like in jokes amongst the fan base. And I have 294 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: not watched maybe even twenty percent of the episodes. 295 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you really want to make the mad, just 296 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: be like no, I've seen the memes that I get it. 297 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: That's why I leaned into it. I don't think it's good. 298 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: I didn't want people coming from me, but yeah. 299 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is something Jake you think is underrated? 300 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: Well somewhat related, I've been eating a lot of Italian food. 301 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: I think just subliminally it got into my head from 302 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 4: watching the show and like watch because it's like a 303 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: thing that just occurs every now and then. Is that 304 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: they're eating like a ricot or something, or like they 305 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: eat this thing that looks like a crown made out 306 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: of bones the other day that I'm very curious about 307 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: what not that I'm just it was crazy. I posted 308 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 4: a picture of it on Twitter What the hell is this? 309 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: And all these Twitter so people are like, you don't 310 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: know what that is? Like they're all bunk on me 311 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: and stuff. Apparently it's called a crown roast and it's 312 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: this thing they make a like a like a king's 313 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: crown out of an animal's bones and the roasted apparently 314 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: it's pretty good. So I just have this flavor on 315 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: the brain. And I was chopping It's groceries store the 316 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: other day and I bought a jar of something called 317 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: olive salad, and I would like to form the world 318 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: that it's an underrated thing in that it didn't know 319 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: it existed. And that's that's a form of underrated, right. 320 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 4: No one's talking about this. It's olive salad. 321 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: No I In my mind, I'm just picturing a bunch 322 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: of chopped up olives and like with some romaine, there is. 323 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: That kind of what it is, Well it's not. There's 324 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: not romaine, but it's like other like olive, like things 325 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: like peppers that you would like soak and oil like that, 326 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: but it's chopped up and then made into like kind 327 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: of a thing you can just spread on a freaking 328 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: sandwich and like it. I'm it's changed my life because, 329 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: like you know, you try to buy sandwich stuff when 330 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: you're grocery shopping and you think you're like, well, what 331 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 4: how hard could it be? And this is like a 332 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: great way to feed yourself cheap. You can never really 333 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 4: hit like the way something tastes from a deli doing 334 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 4: the dance and pranos hands. It's because you don't know 335 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: about secret stuff like all of salad. Yeah, oh man, 336 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: really good. 337 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, it made me think of a very 338 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: fancy deli. 339 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: Like I think it's just technically for like a muffle 340 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 4: letta like a po boy or something like that, like 341 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: a like a Cajun thing. But it really it hit 342 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 4: me because you know a lot of times people make 343 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: a salad, they put one olive on a on a 344 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: what they call set, a cue tip, a toothpick, and 345 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: then they put it in the same which just for 346 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: like aesthetics, you know. But it's like, well, you eat 347 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: a sandwich, you get to eat one olive like wall 348 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 4: throughout the entire sandwich. That's very little olive, right, but 349 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: this it spreads throughout the entire damn things. Every bite 350 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 4: you get like that salty, briny thing. Oh man, insane. 351 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: I live so much and it's totally happened later in life, 352 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: Like I hated olives when I was a kid, but 353 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: now it's probably the food, Like I can't get enough. 354 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: I like I could not imagine eating too many olives. 355 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: Like it's just I always feel like underserved when it 356 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: comes to olives. I fucking love them. 357 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: They're the best I know, these Italians. They got they're 358 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 4: onto something with onto something. 359 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: With those olives. Things underrated. Not enough people are talking 360 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: about olives. Is it like the most popular food since time, 361 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: since the fucking Ten Commandments? 362 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: I suppose there's a very famous restaurant named after them. 363 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: But it is also a massive like crime organization that's 364 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: like built up around fake olive oil. 365 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, olive oil. What fake olive oil was 366 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: like a big scam in the seventies. I remember there's 367 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: like I came again, I came into into contact with 368 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: that like researching something else, and it was like yeah, 369 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: and then they busted this massive like counterfeit olive oil. 370 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we had that that off white supreme olive 371 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: oil and they got the counterfeit version of it. And 372 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: it was crazy that they were like I mean, I 373 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: think they were making millions. It was like one of 374 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: the biggest money makers for the mafia at one point. 375 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: That's nuts. 376 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: But it sounds racist to say that, Like it sounds 377 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like, you know, it's like, don't do us 378 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: like that? No, I yeah, I was talking about the same, 379 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: but like to speculate that the Italian mob is like 380 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: selling counterfeit olive oil. Like it sounds like you're just 381 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: being like yeah, And then they had a big meat 382 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: ball shipment, you know, yeah, breed meat balls. 383 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 4: We don't. We don't do anti Italian racism here absolutely, 384 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: you know. It reminds me of there's an oddly similar 385 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 4: story that I came upon researching for some dumb podcast 386 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 4: I was doing about the Moonies, the cult from Korea 387 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 4: that sort of is like the origin point of like 388 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: this weird other thing that's happening in the United States 389 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: with this guy named King bullet Head who's like the 390 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: guy's son. And then like the guy killed Shinzo Abe 391 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: killed him because the Moonies, like the Shinzo and the 392 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: Moonies somehow were involved in the thing with his family, 393 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: someone died. I don't, yeah, Moviies. So the interesting weird 394 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: thing that came out from like US occupation in uh 395 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: in Korea back in the day. They have like a 396 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 4: similar thing going on where they're the source of I 397 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: guess all of Western wasabi. And it's also fake like 398 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: apparently when you eat with sabi, when you have sushi here, 399 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: it's a horse radish, they die green. Like yeah, probably 400 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: live your whole life and never actually have with sabi. 401 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to be surprised if we google 402 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: like Canada's like counterfeit maple syrup operation. 403 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: That's real. That is real. 404 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all because criminals don't do much research. They 405 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: just like Google the first thing. They're like, all right, 406 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: we're Italian, what do we do? 407 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: What's the most popular and how do we rip it off? 408 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 4: You hit I know you were like randomly hit dead 409 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 4: on there's a whole maple syrup in Canada. 410 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: Wow, what's America's counterfeits gotta be ketchup? 411 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: Right? Oh yeah, it's gotta we have to like counterfeit ketchup. 412 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: But that would just you would just become a billionaire 413 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: and it would be legal, because that's what America is, 414 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: just like just behin, right, you find the cheapest way 415 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: to like make something that the piggies will gobble up, 416 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: and then you become a billionaire and it doesn't matter 417 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: if it's poisoning them because we don't find out until 418 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: people start dying thirty years later, and by that time 419 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: you're rich enough to like affect legislation, so you're not 420 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: gonna get in any trouble. 421 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: To your point, I don't even know if they could 422 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: export the counterfeit shit like the European like food drug 423 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: administrators over there and be like, nah, this doesn't pass 424 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: the smell test for us. You guys got to eat 425 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: that over there. Yeah yeah, wow, all. 426 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: Right, it's actually mostly red paint. 427 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: But it's red number forty four. Yeah, that's what it is. 428 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: Full of microplastics. 429 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, aren't we all guess? 430 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Mayonnaise might be the other thing like that we as 431 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: we talked about on an episode earlier this week. It's 432 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: always like been very suspicious to me that Hellman's like 433 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: the biggest word on their label is real. Hell's real mayonnaise. Okay, 434 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: stop asking. It's like nobody was asking, but now now 435 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: we're very concerned. 436 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 437 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my stand up bit. It's my one stand 438 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: up joke that I'm work shopping. 439 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 4: That's fine. Man. If you read a mayonnaise jar a 440 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: certain way, it says like hell is real, that'd be cool. 441 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Hell is real. 442 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: People repent put all of those letters in huge letters 443 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: and then sell it. It'll there you go, It'll take 444 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: off hell Country. 445 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Hell Man would be a dope like superhero of 446 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: some sort. 447 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's named after the mayonnaise. That'd be cool. 448 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like hell Man, and then his whole thing 449 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: is just mayonnaise. 450 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: Got like a foreign. 451 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: Cool. 452 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: Didn't go where I was expecting it. All right, let's 453 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll talk about the 454 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: ultimate hell Man, Dark Brandon. We'll be right back and 455 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: where sure back And Joe Biden's back. Baby, he's running 456 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: for president. The nation is energized. We're fucking pumped to 457 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: have this guy run for president at the age of 458 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, so old. 459 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, at a certain point, it doesn't matter anymore. 460 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: So he launched his campaign website, and users quickly noticed 461 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: that the site's error for a four message features the 462 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: Dark Brandon meme, complete with a laser eyed Biden and 463 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: the message let's get you back on the rails here. 464 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: Okay, see I immediately thought of cocaine. This man eyes 465 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: are bright red, and he said, let's get you back 466 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: on the rails. Yeah, all right, Joe, were you. 467 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 4: Just blasting rails looking at the bid? 468 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I am every morning, is my ritual. 469 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: It's great. Wow. It kind of reminded me of like, 470 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: I think this might be on purpose. Well, actually it's not. 471 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: You know what it is. He used to be called 472 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: Amtrak Joe because he took the train. Yes, that's gonna 473 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: be what it is, commutter or whatever. But he also 474 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: like kind of busted up a railroad strike last year. 475 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he did, hmm. 476 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: And I think they're just sort of betting that you 477 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: won't know that, because that immediately just made me remember 478 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: I am mad at him about train strike. Yeah. 479 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: And also the biggest calamity of his presidency might be 480 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: a trained derailment. 481 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: Oh right, that no one's talking about that. 482 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Not enough people are talking about to the point that 483 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: he's comfortable being like, let's get this thing back on 484 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: the rails. 485 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: What. That's fucking horrible. 486 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: What? Oh man, that's amazing. But they're just having fun 487 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: with the memes. So the Dark Brando meme actually began 488 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: with the Dark Mega meme, which featured a superpowered Donald Trump, 489 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: which then gave way to the Dark Brandon, which it's 490 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: both the consistency between the two is like portraying Trump 491 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: or buy in as like Doctor Manhattan style, like laser 492 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: beam eye having uber mensch basically like authoritarians. That's what 493 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: it feels like to me. It feels like this is 494 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: the result of having such ineffectual and incapable parties in 495 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: the United States that are just like incapable of doing 496 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: anything that isn't like completely endorsed or asked for by corporations, 497 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: and so people are like fantasizing about their leaders being 498 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: like authoritarian Doctor Manhattan. Yeah, I mean uber mench bending 499 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: people to their will. 500 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: Like speaking of authoritarian leaders. Didn't the president of El 501 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: Salvador he also like tweeted memes with him with like 502 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: laser eyes for the whole bitcoin thing he was trying 503 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: to push. 504 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah he did. 505 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 2: I think it's weird that this is this weird like 506 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: lane that they keep occupying. 507 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: Well, it's I think it's then it like clearly they 508 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: stole that from people that were already kind of using it, right, 509 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: it's like a real thing. And like I think I 510 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: might be wrong here, but I think that originally that 511 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: came from like like internet like tanky types were really 512 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 4: into the USSR and would do like like the I 513 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: mean the first one I ever saw was Lenin, and 514 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: it would be like if you were arguing with someone 515 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 4: and they didn't make a radical left enough point, you'd 516 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: sort of like throw this Lenin with laser by. His 517 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 4: whole thing in history was that he was within the 518 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: far left. He was like no, no, no, no, need to 519 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: go way more hardcore. Yeah, so like right, which is 520 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: crazy that we don't talk about that much underrated right, 521 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: but he uh, but like that's from an internet like 522 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 4: niche subculture that I think that they must have focused 523 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 4: grouped this stuff really hard before, like just straight up stealing. 524 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: And I say that because like you see that a 525 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 4: lot of the advertisers and stuff, how like, yeah, this 526 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 4: bums me out about the Internet. A lot. Stuff will 527 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: organically occur and it's like fun for us all to 528 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 4: play with, and then about six months later they've figured 529 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 4: out a way to use it to like sell stuff. 530 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: So like last year there was like this meme he's 531 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: a ten but YadA YadA YadA, which yeah, I just 532 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: noticed that like a few months ago. I started getting 533 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 4: commercials like every time I watch something on like Hulu 534 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: or something that and it'll be like he's a ten, 535 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 4: but he doesn't use roll aids or something, and it sucks. 536 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: And then but it also it's weird that it's echoing 537 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: so far after the original thing happened. And I think 538 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 4: it's because there was a process of them really like 539 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: kicking the tires on it and going, are we gonna 540 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 4: get sued if we do this? And I think it's 541 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: kind of what's happening here is like this thing is 542 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: it's reappearing in something like the Biden administration's like campaign 543 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 4: thing because it's it's from the Internet a few years 544 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: ago at least yea, and they just sort of realized, oh, 545 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 4: we can just do this too, and like, no one's 546 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: really going to get mad at us. 547 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Internet is just like a giant writer's room 548 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: focus group for corporate America. That's basically how they view it. 549 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: And they're just like, Okay, well it changed enough from 550 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: the first one to the seventh one that we can 551 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: just claim that it's like, you know, not not any 552 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: one individual's creation, and so we we just yeah, just 553 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: steal ideas, just steal intellectual property. 554 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: And yeah, it really it sucks if you're if you 555 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 4: like especially if you're like a comic that's on Twitter 556 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: all the time. Because you are just kind of sitting 557 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: there like going like I'm just giving, Like I'm just 558 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: throwing chum into this huge well that they I just 559 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: mix metaphors, but they like they take. 560 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: I chum my well, yeah you water all nice intestiny. 561 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, It's it's really weird. I don't I'm not 562 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 2: sure exactly what the point of it is other than 563 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: to appeal to someone who's already done making jokes about 564 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: this thing. And I truly think it kind of it 565 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: might not just be like focus groups and whatnot. I 566 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: think sometimes it just comes up organically where someone's NEPO 567 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: baby is walking around on their phone and then the 568 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: person who who birthed them is like, oh shit, I'm 569 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: gonna take that to a board meeting tomorrow, and then 570 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: they just kind of kick the idea around, take forever 571 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: to develop the idea, and by the time the commercial 572 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: comes out, it's too irrelevant for anyone to care about. 573 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 4: So it's also one of those things where like slang 574 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: is like the point of it is for young people 575 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 4: to speak kind of in code and like make fun 576 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: of older people, and like, you know, a word is 577 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 4: dead when you hear your parent say it, like it 578 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 4: as a way of migrating through society up to the 579 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: people that are in charge of everything, and then like yeah, 580 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: your teacher is like you know, it's busting and you're like, ah, 581 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 4: it's over. 582 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah. 583 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: And it is frustrating that like all authorship has been 584 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: taken out of the internet. The Internet. It's just like yeah, 585 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: but you said it on the Internet, so now it's 586 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: now it's totally cool for the Freedo La Corporation to 587 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: use your brilliant joke. 588 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: That's that's the worst part, is I mean, stuff I 589 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: said when I was in middle school is now just 590 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: bubbled up to like, you know, my sixty seven year 591 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: old neighbor and they like mention it as I'm walking past, 592 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: and it kind of you're just like, you know, I 593 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: understand like trying to relate to people, but there's a 594 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: certain point where like you're kind of demeaning them. I 595 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: think if you're just like, well, this is the this 596 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: is how you people talk, right, and it's like, I 597 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: don't know, man, just just drop it. Just just be you. 598 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 2: That's that's the main lesson. 599 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: Just that's how we spoke like twenty years ago, and 600 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: now that you just said that I have to go 601 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: back to bed. 602 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's. 603 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: How deflate it is for me to hear you say that. 604 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: So it's like the White House actually started using this 605 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: meme last summer, tweeting dark Brandon memes along with good 606 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: news for Biden, like so that they're just like, yep, 607 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: got it. Apparently Biden himself reportedly found it funny. But 608 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: I just want to read the Biden's twenty twenty campaign 609 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: manager's explanation of the meme. The memes are a light 610 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: take quote, a light take on the fact that Biden 611 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: actually has abilities and power that most elected officials don't, 612 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: and he wields it in his own way. I don't 613 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that's Oh I don't think that's what 614 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: the memes are. Man, I gotta tell you, I don't 615 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: think you got that right. 616 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Wait, since when does this man have superpowers for anyone? 617 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: What are you what are you talking about? 618 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, he has like dementia, right, yeah, he has dementia, 619 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 4: the same thing. 620 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: I guess a level, it's it does seem like the 621 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: joke works at a level of like this is so 622 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: far from what is actually true about him, and like 623 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: they have taken it to be like, there's actually a 624 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: kernel of truth in there, and Biden is actually a 625 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: super intense, cool person who I think kids would want 626 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: to play with an action figure of if we made them. 627 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: So just throwing that out there, and then on the 628 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: other side of the twenty twenty four presidential race, presumably 629 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: assuming you know he's not. I don't know, it's gonna 630 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: be Trump, right, we can all agree it's going to 631 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: be Trump. There's just nobody else like so yeah. So 632 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: Egene Carol's civil case against Trump for allegedly raping her 633 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six and then denying it went to 634 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: trial this week. She unequivocally stated under oath, I'm here 635 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: because Donald Trump raped me, and when I wrote about it, 636 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: he said it didn't happen, so very straightforward. The New 637 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: York Times gave it like a little little tiny blurb 638 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: on the front page. And I don't know, it's like 639 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: we I think they've known that this story where he 640 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: happened for a long time, and maybe like part of 641 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: them is just responding to the fact that Trump, like 642 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: we we knew this stuff stuff about him before he 643 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: was elected president in twenty sixteen, but it still feels 644 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: weird that it's not a bigger story. But the mainstream 645 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: media has been carrying water for rapist presidents for that 646 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, goes back to like Thomas Jefferson, the 647 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Grover Cleveland won So like there's this Newsweek article that's 648 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: like other presidents who have been accused of sexual assault, 649 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: and they. 650 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: Talked about weird that they yeah, yeah, it's true, but 651 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: it's just like what are they trying to say, like 652 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: it's not a big deal, because. 653 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they talked about Grover Cleveland, which I didn't 654 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: even I knew that there was. Grover Cleveland had this 655 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: like illegitimate child scandal. But the details are like he 656 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: committed rape and like told the in question he would 657 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: do everything in his power to destroy her if she 658 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: told anyone like then and there after the assault and 659 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: then the media was just like he's got an illegitimate child. 660 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: They just like just kept it moving and like that 661 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: That's how it like came down in history. Was just 662 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: like this guy really likes the ladies or some shit. 663 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 4: It was scandal during his presidency or his campaign. 664 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was during his campaign, like yeah. 665 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 4: And it was doing the Lindy Hop to this. 666 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: Lindy hop into this piece of information. I learned about 667 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: it as being like a story about like mud slinging 668 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: during presidential election. Mmm. 669 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, spin that history class puts on ship like 670 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: this is is wild. Yeah, it seems like if society 671 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: was going to give anyone a pass, it's gonna be 672 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: a former president. Like it's he keep seeing stuff like 673 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: has happened, and like the message is always the same, 674 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: and the punishments are always like unequal or they don't 675 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: happen for a certain group of people, Like it's wild, 676 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: Like Jonathan Major's, you know, alleged horrible assault of a 677 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: woman should have faced all the consequences he's facing, and 678 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: then but it was so quick and immediate. And then 679 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: you have Ezra Miller, like they're literally kidnapping people and 680 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, menacing a twelve year old and the marketing 681 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 2: just goes like it like nothing happens. 682 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 683 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: If if you I just yeah, I think if you 684 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 2: look at all of these things, there's there's a clear message. 685 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I was just reading something today about Jonathan 686 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 2: Mullaney having his special out, and I want to preface 687 00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 2: this by saying that I'm not comparing Jonathan Mulaney's substance 688 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 2: abuse issues with the violent crime that Donald Trump or 689 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 2: Jonathan Majors has been accused of. It's just that the 690 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: messages seem to be reserved for a particular group. And 691 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: so they were talking about, you know, him having his 692 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 2: problems with substance abuse and whatnot, and them comparing that 693 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: to like Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears and Amanda Binds 694 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: and like, there's no pictures of him. Again, not saying 695 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: he should be publicly shamed or whatever, it's just that 696 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: when someone like again Robert Downey Jr. Has his problem 697 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 2: with struggles or whatever, in the media, there's a focus 698 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 2: on this is a historical fact and not who the 699 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: person is. And then when it's a person of color 700 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 2: or a woman, it's like, this is who they are 701 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: and we should label them as such forever. And it's 702 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: frustrating that it's not equal when someone when someone heard 703 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 2: someone or whatever the like. I think we should all 704 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 2: feel good when that person gets punished, as they should. 705 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: I don't understand why it's like, well, hey, look at 706 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: how other many powerful men have been accused. This is 707 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: this is a little historical factoid as opposed to like 708 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 2: going even an inch further and questioning why this keeps happening. 709 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 2: It's God, that's maddening. 710 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 711 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 4: I just watched that in Lanny Special, like right before 712 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 4: we started recording, and it's pretty good, and I. 713 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 2: Thought it's good. 714 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 4: He's I thought it was good because it was honest 715 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 4: and yeah, you know, it was kind of humanizing. And 716 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 4: I think, like I kind of I kind of disagree 717 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 4: with what you just said, which is, like you said, 718 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 4: we should sort of all, you know, take part in 719 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 4: punishing all these people. I kind of think we should 720 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: all give the the compassion that we structurally unfairly only 721 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 4: give to these white guys like that, should everyone gets 722 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 4: you hip Like I'm a laya. 723 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: No no, no, I no, I didn't mean we all 724 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 2: should take part in someone. What I met was that 725 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: we should all not even all take part in punishing 726 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: anyone like hey, now we're going to shame you or 727 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 2: anything like that. I mean that, And I specified if 728 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: you hurt someone I'm talking about, you know, especially when 729 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: it comes to like assault and like being accused of 730 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: like violence and stuff like that. Donmaliney, I don't believe 731 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: it's been accused of anything violent So I wasn't really 732 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: equating those two scenarios. I just mean that, like as 733 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: a whole, the message has been that if you're a 734 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: woman or a person of color, it doesn't matter whether 735 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: you had a mental health crisis or committed a violent crime, 736 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: which are very very different things. They're both weighed equally 737 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 2: and will likely end your career swiftly and you probably 738 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: won't get a second chance. With few exceptions, but if 739 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 2: you're a successful white man, you might not have to 740 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 2: face any consequences for anything you do, and even if 741 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: you do, people will be will to let you come back, 742 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,959 Speaker 2: yeah without piling on. 743 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah it's inconsistent for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 744 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: But anyways, MULLENNI special decent. I haven't watched it, so. 745 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's good. I'm not again, this isn't This 746 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: isn't an indictment of John Mulaney or anything. I'm this 747 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: is an indictment of like the media, and again when 748 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 2: you when you have someone again, like someone who dealt 749 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: with substance abuse issues and mental health issues in public, 750 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: like Britney Spears, and then everything that even to this day, 751 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 2: if she posts a picture of herself dancing, people question 752 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: her mental health. 753 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's inconsistent that they get zero and everyone else 754 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 4: gets a negative number or whatever, they get kind of 755 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 4: a neutral response. They're kind of treated like as if 756 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 4: it's it's made as easy as possible for them to 757 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 4: like get past or whatever, and that I think you're 758 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 4: you know, you're probably write that this is like at 759 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 4: least it's very at least like the media is like 760 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: a mechanism by which this happens. But like it also 761 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's probably just like deep into like 762 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 4: huge ideological structural stuff in the way that just like 763 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 4: everyone is thinking right now too, because like I mean, 764 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 4: you just I don't know, I'm on the internet all 765 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 4: the time. You Internet it's a fuck cess pool, and 766 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 4: you read people's takes on this sort of stuff, and 767 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 4: it's frustrating because you see it coming straight from people 768 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 4: where they don't even realize that they have this wild 769 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 4: inconsistency or talked about if they happen to be somebody 770 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 4: who is like, Okay, let's bring this back to this 771 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 4: Trump thing, right, people that like him, they're gonna give 772 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 4: this a pass and they're gonna focus on the similar 773 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 4: thing that the other guy has been accused of at 774 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: kind of inconsistencily or whatever, and uh, I don't know. 775 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and I feel like the New York Times 776 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: has taken that into the equation and is like downplaying 777 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: or like not publicizing the story as much because they're like, well, 778 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: his followers aren't gonna give a shit. 779 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sad. Yeah, this is all just a liit, 780 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 4: Like this is like a litmus test. Like you you 781 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 4: take a dipstick and you stick it into the Internet 782 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 4: and you pull it out and you full like things 783 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 4: are bad like the way. 784 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, just to the millenniy question, Like 785 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see like how much this defines 786 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: his legacy. But I just remember growing up, the first 787 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: thing I learned about Richard Pryor was like that he 788 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: set himself on fire while smoking cocaine, you know, like that, 789 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's the like it's subtle things like 790 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: that where it's like, okay, just in your point that 791 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: like one group, it becomes the defining thing about them as. 792 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 4: Opposed to true for sure. 793 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come 794 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: back and talk about the Ten Commandments and Black Mirror, 795 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: and we're back and the Ten Commandments are in the 796 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: news again that my brain just turns off usually when 797 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: I see this shit. But the Texas Senate just passed 798 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: a bill requiring each public school classroom to display a 799 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: copy of the Ten Commandments. 800 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 4: They'll be on display at my shows at the Velvet Good. 801 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 4: I put them behind me every time I perform. But yeah, 802 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 4: especially large in Austin, Texas. 803 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: So which ones do you put? Because there are actually 804 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: two ten Commandments in the Bible, and the second one 805 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: like the revised edition, because I guess I remember the 806 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: part where like Moses, I guess, like breaks them like 807 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: it has them on tablet and then breaks them and 808 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: then like I guess, there's like a week into Bernie's 809 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: two where he has to like go back up and 810 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: like do it again, but like this time, the Commandments 811 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: have things like this. This is one of the ten 812 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: commandments in the in the Bible, all that openeth the 813 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 1: matrix is mine. First of all, that's the trippiest fuck. 814 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: And every first thing among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, 815 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: that is male very specific. Also, thou shalt not see 816 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: a kid in his mother's milk. So it's like very 817 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: farming farming related just instructions on how to rear your cattle. 818 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: Is the tank Commandments? I think they if they were 819 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: willing to make that the ten Commandments that they put 820 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: in courtrooms, I think that would be at least funny. 821 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. Yeah, 822 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: I'm I think I'd be shocked to learn, like how 823 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 2: many things in our society are based around like just farming, 824 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 2: just old world like agricultural tent poles that we just 825 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 2: kept going and didn't question. Uh wow, that's fascinating. 826 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you were just talking about how we 827 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't see a kid in his mother's milk, like, come 828 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: to find out the origin of that belief within the 829 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: set ten Commandments two point zero. 830 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite bars that I heard in 831 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: that that Wu tang check don't don't put the seed 832 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 2: in the Maybe, I don't know, weird. 833 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 4: What does it mean to see the child? 834 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: No idea? 835 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's all kinds of four chan, I think, 836 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 2: and going on in that sentence right there, I don't 837 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: I don't want to investigate for it. 838 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 4: That's a good point. This was their four chan back 839 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 4: in the day because they didn't have the Internet. 840 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: True this was a post and got weird real quick. 841 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a weird re edited post. Yes, oh, hold on, 842 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 4: I didn't mean to type the subject like that. 843 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to start talking about the matrix at 844 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: the beginning of that one, but it seemed to get 845 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: a reaction, so we'll just go with that. But this 846 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: is all a thing because the Supreme Court announced a 847 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: vague new History and Tradition test to replace the last 848 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: fifty years of Establishment Clause law. So it's basically around 849 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: that football coach who raid on the field and got 850 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: fired because they were like, people don't want you to 851 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: do that, and he insisted on doing it. 852 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 4: And so the weirdest think about hardcore like Red State 853 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 4: Republicans is that they claim to be into like these 854 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 4: American ideals. One of the biggest ones is separation of 855 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 4: church and state. Like they love the Founding Fathers and 856 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 4: they're talking about a lot, have tattoos of them and 857 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 4: the airbrushed on their truck and stuff. And one of 858 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 4: their first big things was this. 859 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: That was like their main like they were always talking 860 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: about that shit like that was. Yeah, they've just edited 861 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: that part out. I get the feeling that these people 862 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: are not big on primary document looking at primary sources 863 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 1: and reading reading unedited you know, documents of what the 864 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 1: founding fathers were worried about. 865 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 4: True. 866 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyways, it's a mess. Also, Black Mirror is 867 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: coming back in June. It just feels weird now, like 868 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems like the time for Black 869 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: Mirror has passed. I don't know, we'll have to see 870 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: what but what what these are like, but it just 871 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: feels like too many of the things have are already 872 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: happening from the previous one. So maybe they'll have to 873 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 1: just like ramp it up. 874 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: But do you think it's possible to get more surreal? 875 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, it's hard for a whole season 876 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: to get to be pulled off well when it's when 877 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 2: something is as lofty of an idea. 878 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: But I as predicting the near future. 879 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I do think I don't know if 880 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 2: that's necessarily. I always took it as like this could happen. 881 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 2: I think I don't want to put all the pressure 882 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 2: of like they're predicting necessarily. But I like the idea, 883 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 2: the thought experiment of Black Mirror, so I like that 884 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: it's going as like an art experiment, but yeah, it 885 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: will it be good. I don't know. They've had some 886 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 2: really shitty episodes, so sure, we'll see. 887 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: That's what's good about Uh. You know this type of 888 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 1: show is you can have a shitty one off and 889 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: be like, all right, I don't know, yah, get to 890 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: the one. 891 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 4: I love Black Mirror because they swing for the fences 892 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 4: and yes, absolutely sometimes, but when they hit it's really good, 893 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 4: you know exactly. It's like Twilight Zone formulaic type thing. 894 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 4: Every time you watch it, you're like, oh, what's the 895 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 4: thing going to be? But like, and I think it's 896 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 4: an interesting question you asked, like can it happen now? 897 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 4: Because like I think the last time they released the 898 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 4: show was kind of before the pandemic, which is one 899 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 4: of the more recent like milestones where we went, oh 900 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 4: my god, we're through the looking glass. Right, But if 901 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 4: you remember years ago when they the last season of 902 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 4: Black Mirror they put out, if you lived in New 903 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 4: York City at least, I guess I remember seeing these 904 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 4: ads everywhere, like on the sides of bus stops and stuff, 905 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 4: where the ad would be like black Mirror and then 906 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 4: like the rest of the poster was a mirror and 907 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 4: it would I think the bit like I care exactly 908 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 4: how they worded it, but it was like you're living 909 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 4: in it, like yeah, the new season, it's already here 910 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 4: because everything felt so weird and like you know, I mean, 911 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 4: I was just talking to somebody about this yesterday, like 912 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 4: we kind of there's this feeling in the air right 913 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 4: now where like we're in the upside down land like 914 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 4: it we it feels like we are through the looking 915 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 4: glass and everything's weird. But it's kind of felt like 916 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,479 Speaker 4: that for like a long time, like every Yeah. I mean, 917 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 4: like I think me and my friend laster day were 918 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 4: sitting around We're trying to figure out what the what 919 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 4: the first one was, and like I think like they 920 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,240 Speaker 4: were like somebody was like, oh, maybe remember when Trump 921 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 4: was like running for president. That was the first time 922 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 4: you were like am I on acid right now? Like 923 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 4: why is reality so weird? But then before that, like 924 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 4: there was you know, the the like protests and like 925 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 4: the police stuff and like Ferguson I remember being really yeah, 926 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 4: and then like occupy before that and stuff. I think 927 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 4: like this, it's actually I think you can keep doing 928 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 4: black mirrors. Guess what I guess what I'm saying because 929 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 4: like it's going to continue to feel like this forever. 930 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 4: Like every couple of years, something's gonna happen where you're 931 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 4: just gonna go, oh my god, like reality's bending apart. 932 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I don't. I don't want to say 933 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: like I don't think they should. It's just like I 934 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: feel like the public mood is probably like, oh fuck, 935 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: because they've gotten so much, right, it's like, do we 936 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: want to look and do our near future at like 937 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: what like just counting off some of the things that 938 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: they've gotten, like eerily specifically. Right, there's the robot dogs, 939 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: which were immediately unleashed by the NYPD, the AI that 940 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: recreates your dead loved ones. As we mentioned earlier, that's 941 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: already happening. They had an episode about an annoying TV 942 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: celebrity running for political office, and The AV Club wrote 943 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: at the time that there's just not enough there to 944 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 1: suggest that Waldo's moment would last much longer than fifteen minutes. 945 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: And then and then Trump got elected president and yeah 946 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: turned out Yeah. 947 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 2: It was so Yeah. I guess I can say because 948 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 2: I watched that episode after the Waldo moment, after Trump 949 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 2: had been elected, and so I guess I can say 950 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 2: like the episode, it didn't take anything away from the episode. 951 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 2: It just made it like there was an absurdest angle 952 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 2: to it because people were voting for a cartoon character 953 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 2: in that episode in particular, and the cartoon character was 954 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 2: like blew up so big that the guy playing it 955 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 2: became unwound and really like upset that he wasn't getting 956 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,720 Speaker 2: any credit, and so into that there. Even in that story, 957 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a guy behind the mask 958 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 2: having some sort of soul and like, you know, not 959 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: liking what's happening to the image of this thing he created. 960 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 2: And in reality, Donald Trump doesn't give a shit, Yeah, and. 961 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: Just a perfect machine of narcissism. 962 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's a little more terrifying. So watching 963 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 2: the episode actually felt a little bit like of a 964 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 2: reprieve from reality, if that makes sense. 965 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, It's like, oh man, and 966 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: I wish it was this simple Black Mirror. I wish 967 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 1: it was as easy as Black Mirror made it seem, 968 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: even like the one where you record everything through your 969 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: eye like that I think that was season one, right, 970 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: where like they have you have little like recorders in 971 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: your eye that and then you can like play back 972 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: the memories. Like the other day, I was like, well, 973 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 1: sitting with my kids while they were like playing a game, 974 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 1: and I was like looking at old videos of my 975 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: kids and like me playing with my kids while I 976 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: could have been playing with my kids, And I was like, Oh, 977 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: this is not good. That Black Mirror episode. 978 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what I don't like about Black Mirror. 979 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 4: What's that that they do this thing and it it 980 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 4: works pretty well, but it's like a little on the 981 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 4: nose where at the every episode ends with a musical 982 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 4: cue that is a song that's perfectly like oriented towards 983 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 4: whatever their commenting on socially. Yeah, but like there was 984 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 4: an episode which I think was a stinker by the way, 985 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 4: if anyone's listening for Black Bear, where like shooting happened 986 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 4: because a guy couldn't stop looking at Twitter on his phone, 987 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 4: and then like the ending credits were like, can't take 988 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 4: my eyes off of you. It was on the nose. Yeah, 989 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 4: So that's I'm more less less. I'm less worried about 990 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 4: this meta stuff you're talking about, Jack, and I'm more 991 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 4: just worried about the writing content of the show because 992 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 4: it's it's crazy. I kind of can't believe how much 993 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 4: I like Black Mirror, because like, the guy who made 994 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 4: it made some other stuff that I do not joy. 995 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 4: But he's what's the other stuff? He mean is Charlie Booker. 996 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 4: Charlie Brooker, he made this. Man, I'm sorry, this is 997 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 4: very popular show. I'm sorry if you hear this, Charlie Brooker. 998 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, though, you know, I have to 999 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 4: be authentic or else. I don know. I don't know 1000 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 4: what will happen. But he made this. He makes this 1001 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 4: thing at the end of the year every year that's 1002 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 4: like a re look back on the year and how 1003 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 4: horrible it was. And it kind of has this thing 1004 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 4: I'm talking about where with every year we're like, that 1005 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 4: was the worst year of all time and it was 1006 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 4: just rapping. Every year, it always the logo of it 1007 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 4: is always a dumpster on fire, which is like the 1008 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 4: oldest internet joke in the book Man. Yeah, Hi, you 1009 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Hire me to write for the 1010 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 4: New Black Mirror, please, I got notes. I think that's 1011 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 4: what we're learning. Jake needs to write for the New 1012 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 4: Black Mirror. You need to not Charlie Brooker. That would 1013 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 4: truly be a Dystopian Universe. Think about that. Yeah, I 1014 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 4: was writing for your TV show. 1015 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 1: Among the guest stars samahay K, Zazzy Beats, Aaron Paul, 1016 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: and Josh Hartnett. 1017 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 4: Okay, wow, all right man. 1018 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,439 Speaker 1: Anyways, I'll definitely watch the ship. I actually, I mean 1019 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: that's may not be true. I really just watched the 1020 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: Black Mirror episodes that everyone's like, oh, this is the 1021 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: good one, and I skip most of them. Whereas when 1022 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: the when the first season dropped and like it was 1023 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: only on like only available in the UK and you 1024 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: had to like pirate it and stuff. That was that 1025 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,919 Speaker 1: was like the most anticipated content of like that year. 1026 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: Was like, oh, I've you heard about the show Black 1027 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 1: Mirror and now it's like all available on Netflix, and 1028 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll watch like twenty percent of them. I'll 1029 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: watch the ones that Jake says are good on Twitter. 1030 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm watching the ones that someone else said 1031 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 4: are good. So it's a filter. It nice before we 1032 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 4: get that. 1033 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Jake, truly a pleasure having you on the 1034 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 1: Daily Zeiceist as always, Where can people find you? Follow 1035 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: you all that good stuff. 1036 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 4: It's been a great time. Thanks for having me back 1037 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 4: to to see you guys. I am all over the internet. 1038 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 4: My handle on everything is at feral jokes, which is 1039 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 4: an anagram for my name, which is Jake Flores Barrel, 1040 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 4: like an animal jokes like jokes. Yeah, people don't realize 1041 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 4: it like that, and then they yeah, it's easier to 1042 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 4: host stuff this way because my name gets stolen and 1043 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 4: stuff and used for websites. Yeah. So that's that's me 1044 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 4: all of the Internet. I'm on Twitter a lot, I'm 1045 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 4: on Instagram, I have a TikTok. I don't really use it, 1046 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 4: but maybe i'll start. And if you're in Austin, Texas, 1047 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 4: like I said, I'll be at the Velvet Room May 1048 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 4: twenty sixth and twenty seventh. I think they got that right. 1049 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 4: There's two shows one night, one show the other night. 1050 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 4: Check it out. Velvederrooom dot COM's the website. And I 1051 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 4: live in New York and I you stand up here 1052 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 4: and end up kind of all over the place, So 1053 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 4: just keep keep an eyeball on me and I'll probably 1054 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 4: be where you are soon doing stand up. Oh in 1055 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 4: My podcast is called Poddamn America. It's a comedy podcast 1056 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 4: that's left leaning politically and kind of has the laser 1057 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 4: eyeball things we were talking about earlier going on, but smarter, 1058 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 4: I hope, than what the internet it has to offer. Yeah, 1059 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 4: that show while You're mad. That's it. 1060 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: There you go. Is there a tweeter work of media 1061 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying? 1062 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? I really I'm glad you asked you this question 1063 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 4: because the tweet I've been enjoying is a tweet by 1064 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 4: Twitter user at Joe Rogan Yes, fired off six thirty 1065 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 4: eight pm November sixteenth, two thousand and nine. It says, 1066 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 4: and it's if you didn't catch that, this is the 1067 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 4: Joe Rogan he tweeted in the year two thousand and 1068 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 4: nine again coma two guys, one horse dot com. Capital 1069 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 4: letters is the Mister Hands video. Capital letters n SFW 1070 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 4: a bunch of exclamation points. It's one of those things 1071 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 4: you capital letters have to see to believe. I don't 1072 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 4: know why he tweeted this, and don't look at it, 1073 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 4: by the way, especially if you don't know what that is. 1074 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 4: It's one of the worst things of all time. But 1075 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 4: I have been enjoying thinking about the fact that, for 1076 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 4: some reason, Joe Rogan tweeted out that you have to 1077 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 4: watch a horrible video. 1078 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus two thousand and nine seems on brand you've 1079 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: changed Rogan or maybe not justin wonderful having you as well. 1080 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: Where can people find you and is there a working 1081 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? 1082 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 2: That's been great being here. Thank y'all for having me back. 1083 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 2: You can find me at j con the Smith on 1084 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 2: Instagram and Instagram only. That's at j C O N 1085 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 2: t H E S M I T H. And I 1086 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 2: don't I don't have a piece of media or anything 1087 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:31,439 Speaker 2: I know I will however, though, I'm okay here, I'll 1088 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 2: share this. It'll be on my own account. But I've 1089 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 2: actually been temporarily taking, you know, some time off in 1090 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 2: the middle of the week, so I haven't been doing 1091 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 2: the Wednesday episode. So one of these upcoming Tuesdays, I'm 1092 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 2: actually finally after several years, getting my tattoo that I've 1093 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 2: been thinking about for a long time. I'm getting a 1094 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 2: full sleeve done by an amazing artist. And yeah, I'm 1095 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: gonna be posting pictures of that up soon. So yeah, 1096 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 2: you just follow me there and check out the tattoo process. 1097 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 2: There you go. 1098 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: A couple tweets of it. Harrison winereb tweeted two things 1099 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: within an hour of each other that it tweeted I 1100 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: hate when the toilet overflows. That's the complete opposite of 1101 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: what I was going for. And then also I love 1102 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:19,479 Speaker 1: flushing the toilet. It's like this never happened. I feel 1103 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: like a nice window into what was going on in 1104 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: their life and also very true great meditations on toilet. 1105 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Obrian. 1106 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're 1107 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook 1108 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily zekeeist dot com, where 1109 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: we post our episodes on our footnotes linked off to 1110 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as 1111 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy. 1112 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: Justin what's a song that you think people might enjoy? 1113 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I have no idea where I came across this track. 1114 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 2: I don't know much about any of the people featured 1115 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 2: on here, but this song as all the references and 1116 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 2: millennials such as myself will recognized, like bars about Phoebe 1117 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 2: from Friends and d D from Dexter's Laboratory. But some 1118 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 2: of the jokes in here are just straight violations it 1119 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 2: sounds just like just a bunch of young kids throwing 1120 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 2: jokes out and it's funny to me. But oh man, 1121 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 2: for example, they in one verse where they're like, my 1122 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 2: crew balled like Cayu, my crew hot like Kayenne, we 1123 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 2: got tunnel vision. Rest in peace to Princess Dian And 1124 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 2: uh yeah, after yesterday's episode, I didn't I was gonna 1125 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 2: recommend this song and I was like, no, not not on, 1126 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 2: not on the car crash sequence we had at the beginning. 1127 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 2: But this song is called CC by Indie Tribe No 1128 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 2: big deal in John Keith and you can find that 1129 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: song in the footnotes. 1130 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Daily is a production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts 1131 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 1: from My heart Radio, visit the heart Radio app, Apple podcast, 1132 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna 1133 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to 1134 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 1: tell you what's trending and won't tuck y all about 1135 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: bite B