1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: And we got this also sit with coach de Boor, 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: who came from Washington, and we talked with him about 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: succeeding obviously arguably the greatest college football coach of all 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: time in Nick Saban. We talk a lot about his 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: transition from Washington, going from that, going from that national 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: title loss to getting the job with Alabama, some of 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: the culture wrinkles he's bringing in Alabama. I can already 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: foresee headline coming out about you know, hey, they're. 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: Playing music now. 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: They seem a little bit more loose at Alabama as 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: the culture. You can see some stuff already being created 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: out of that. But he talks about some of the 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: new things that he's bringing in Alabama, what got him 14 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: the job, succeeding Nick Saban, and how you know, in 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: those interviews with the players, we asked them about how 16 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: it's been in springball with coach de bor So check 17 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: those out. You guys are gonna love this conversation with 18 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: coach to Boor, he was all time with the boys. 19 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, and shout out to the University of 20 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Alabama for letting us in. I know that we've tried 21 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: for a couple of times and usually it's a very 22 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: it's a tough place to get in. So we thank 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: you guys for allowing us to see your facilities. A 24 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: plus all around, Like you guys crushed it. You guys, 25 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Tyler Booker gave us a tour. It was incredible. Again, 26 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna enjoy this interview. Oh yes, So, 27 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: without further ado, Bakehogs, tiny kisses. Make sure Alabama fans, 28 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: if you were new here, make sure you're subscribed to 29 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: the Boys leave comments throughout the episode. 30 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, coach the boor yeah, I can't help. But 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: as the yeah you need some dad here, it's just like, uh, 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: it's just. 33 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: Like I'm something with when Will and I met, there's 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: been a couple like that. I guess, look look at 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: the landing over here. So the dad hat. There's been 36 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: like a couple like the when I signed a contract 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: with the Titans, I like wore this boss hog outfit 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: all white, and I said, daddy's here, and so like 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: a couple of people in Nashville calling me dad for 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: a little bit. And then when Will and I met. 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: That that what that's the origin story of the day. 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: That's how starting. That's how I'm telling this, how I 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: was starting, and then uh, when. 44 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: This story origin stories my first time here is the dad. 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 3: You know you remember that, right, Delanny. That's right. 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: I know that that is I know, I know that 47 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: that is a moment in time. 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: It's a moment in time that I think of myself 49 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: When I look at the dad hats I think, wow, I. 50 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: Really did that. 51 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so when Will and I first met, I 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: had a very young daughter and then a bean, the bean, 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: and then now I have two kids. Will's Will's got 54 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: a daughter. So we came out dad hats man because 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: it's it's a it's a culture. People don't know. There's 56 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: all these dumb jokes about well people know because they 57 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: have dogs. You don't understand what it's like to have 58 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: a kid. So you actually have a kid. So it's 59 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: like a nice little groups. You're more than willing to 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: be in the group. If you want, we'll send you 61 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: a couple of hats. 62 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: I got two girls, girl dad. Perfect, we have girl dad, 63 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: so we'll get you hooked up. 64 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: When you were let's actually, by the way, Derek's calling 65 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: me back right now. 66 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 67 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure because Jackson's video that. 68 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Taylor had a tough loss Derek was texting and Taylor 69 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: tried FaceTime, and then he didn't answer Taylor's phone call. 70 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: But he's responding and texting back and forth. 71 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: The whole time. 72 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: Seven years teammates. Seven years. Yeah, I tried to pull 73 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: it off, always at OTAs trying to get his raven friends. 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and stuff like that. 75 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: What do you want to start? Oh, I want to 76 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: start with your two daughters. When you had two girls, 77 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: did you think maybe one more, I'll go for a boy. 78 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: No, honestly no, I think once we got the younger one, 79 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: I think we were all good. Certainly would have been 80 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: fine with boys. And looking back on it though, and 81 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: now being a football coach, I think it's actually a blessing, 82 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: you know, having no pressure on any boy and having 83 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: to play football and just enjoying who they are. And 84 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: you know, man, they love the game and they love 85 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: being around the team and all that kind of stuff. 86 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: And they both have totally different personalities and totally different 87 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: likes interests. But it's awesome being a girl. 88 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: Dad. Were you like myself? 89 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: I was let down when I saw the pink come 90 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: from the cake that we were having a girl. 91 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: Oh, hey, not only he's true. No, he came his 92 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: wife came in with a cake at the bus and 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: when he saw that color, it was there was no 94 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: hiding it. It was true disappointment was going to get that. 95 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: I was going to get a light. 96 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: But as an athlete, which I can't wait to ask 97 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: you about, because you were a stud at Two Falls, 98 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: were you hopeful for your for for the first kid? 99 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: Were you hopeful that it was a boy? 100 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: I I honestly didn't have feelings one way or another. 101 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: I really didn't better. 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 3: Very politically correct answer, yeah, strong, well thought out answer. 103 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 104 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: I was not gonna get anything mad with that one. 105 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 106 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: I think it was meant to be. That's the way 107 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: I look at it. 108 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: So you have a few records coming up as a 109 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver, do you keep a highlight tape close by 110 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: just to let the boys know that you can dabble, 111 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that you can dabble with the best of them. 112 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: No, I don't. Nothing like what these guys are here 113 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: at this level. They would turn that on and have 114 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: a few laughs. So, uh, I'm proud of what we did. 115 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: But as a team, but that level was a little different. 116 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: Than record in yards, receptions, touchdowns. You played some semi 117 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: pro ball as well, what as you were going through 118 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: as you were as an athlete going the semi pro 119 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: Bawl route in that moment in time, are you sitting 120 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: there you're trying to gather tape to try to get 121 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: to the next level, or after you had a couple 122 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: of years, you're like, okay, I just I need I 123 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: need to start making a pivot going into the next thing. 124 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, are you talking the football piece? 125 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, football piece. 126 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. From from with the football it was just you know, 127 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: indoor football there and Sue Falls enjoyed a couple of 128 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: years kind of right there at home, and I was 129 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: already on into coaching high school ball and kind of 130 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: onto while you're playing things while I was playing, so 131 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: you know, that was that was just a kind of 132 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: a side hobby. It's with you during those two years, 133 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: and got into the college coaching there at University suit 134 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 4: Falls and then kind of had to put everything else 135 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 4: on the back burner and move on with the career. 136 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: Obviously, like coaching, you've done an amazing job, You're at 137 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: one of the most prestigious universities of all time. But 138 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: playing and realizing that, okay, this is the road's coming 139 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: to an end. Of my playing career, Like, how was 140 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 3: that transition for you? I know you were coaching already, 141 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: but was there ever that point where you're like identity 142 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: crisis or anything like that. 143 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 4: No, I don't think it was at that level. I 144 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 4: enjoyed the relationships, I enjoyed the friends. I knew that 145 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: there was definitely a ceiling and I had probably maxed 146 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: out that ceiling as a football player myself, and so, 147 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: you know, great times, but it was time to move on. 148 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, proud though, you've been wildly successful as a head 149 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: coach in the NAI ranks, three national titles. I think 150 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: you were sixty five and three as a head coach 151 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: with Washington. I mean a two time coach of the year. 152 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I think you go was twenty five and three with Washington. 153 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: What do you feel like you've cultivated, whether it's values, 154 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: philosophies over the years to have that. 155 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: Much, to have this much success. 156 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: I always go back to when I was a player 157 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: at Two Falls. We were two and eight my freshman 158 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: year and we were fourteen to no national champs my 159 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: senior year, and I knew what the culture looked like, 160 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: what it felt like as a player the first year, 161 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: and also what it took to get there over those 162 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: four years, and I always just remember that, And it 163 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: was the relationships, It was the you know, just the 164 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: consistency you got from the people that were in the 165 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: building or on the team, and just the work that 166 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: it put in, and so it made it was fun, 167 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 4: which allowed you know, and I enjoyed the process, which 168 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: you know, I think our entire team did. And so 169 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: I try to make that what we have here, you know, 170 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: and wherever I've been, try to make an environment or 171 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: facilitate a you know, an atmosphere that's full of energy. 172 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: You know that you know, you can find them driven people, 173 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: let them go do their thing, whether it's coaches or players, 174 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: and they enjoy each and every moment. They enjoy each 175 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: you know, everyone that's a part of it. And just 176 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: just let's go have some fun. Let's cut it loose, 177 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: Let's make the most of every opportunity we get. 178 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: Turning back to your success at Washington, you were the 179 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: only coach to go eleven or more wins in consecutive 180 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: years and then you get the call from the Crimson Tide. 181 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: You just competed for a national championship. What was your 182 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: thought process when that phone call did come. 183 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the timing of everything. I think is 184 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: what really makes it extra hard through all of this, 185 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: because my time at Washington is going to be for 186 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: me and my family probably the best time of our life. 187 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: You know, those two years there and the way we 188 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: were embraced from a community aspect to the team, to 189 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: just how much fun it was working with our staff. 190 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 4: It was a special time that I know we all 191 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: are going to cherish forever as a family and eating 192 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: individually as well. But you know, just the opportunity to 193 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: come here to Alabama knowing this program and what the 194 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: history was all about, and getting a chance to meet 195 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: Greg Byrne and just really hearing the vision, understanding the 196 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: interests and how excited he'd be to have, you know, 197 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: me leading the ball program. That meant a lot. And 198 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: you know, did a goutt a chance maybe over twenty 199 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 4: four hours to do a little bit of just kind 200 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: of investigating and kind of really thinking it through and 201 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: talking to a couple people that I'm close with, But 202 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: it just it just felt like, you know, this is 203 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: something that was too good of an opportunity, and it's 204 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: just been an awesome experience here these first three to 205 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: four months. 206 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: Is that how quickly you had to make that decision? 207 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: Was twenty four hours? 208 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I pretty much had to make the 209 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: decision if I was offered the job. You know, That's 210 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 4: really how it really comes down to, you know, and 211 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: you know, and I understand why. You know, in the 212 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: just the environment we're in college football, the timing of it, 213 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: you know, we're talking the middle of January, retaining a roster. 214 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: I just the urgency that it needed to be to 215 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: keep the program moving forward. I completely understood why. You know, 216 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: Greg Burn told the team, you know, give me seventy 217 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: two hours, you know, and you know that was that 218 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 4: was that urgency if I was going to be the 219 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: football coach. I knew getting down here and being around 220 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: these guys and just being NonStop and trying to build 221 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: these relationships and keep things together in the first two 222 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 4: weeks while I was here, while I'm building the staff, 223 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: was going to be critical for our immediate and long 224 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: term future. 225 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: Were there nerves involved in the interview process. 226 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Like you're going, you know, you have your success at Washington, 227 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: You're going after this Alabama job. There's always that kid 228 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: in us. It's like you go to the next stage 229 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: you go to the next thing. Were there any nerves 230 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: involved in going after this job. 231 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: No, not at all, because I had a great place 232 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: where I was at. You know, really it was more 233 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 4: about making sure that this was going to be a 234 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: good fit, that this is going to be a place 235 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: I could see, you know, myself, you know, being successful 236 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: and you know people that I was going to be 237 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 4: enjoying the journey with, you know, from Greg Burn to 238 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: others here in the athletic department at the university. So, 239 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: in all honesty, no, because I was at a great place, 240 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: and so you know, it's just a matter of really 241 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: thinking it through. And you know, I think the piece 242 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: that I truly to make sure it was I wasn't 243 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: getting caught up in the emotions of the ups and 244 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 4: downs of what we had just been through with the 245 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: season and trying to really take a step back in 246 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: a short amount of time and have some perspective on everything, 247 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: because you know, we had had such an amazing year 248 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: and you know, on a Monday night in the National Championship, 249 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: you know you're the wins taken out of your sales, 250 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: and you know you're trying to support your team and 251 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 4: your your staff but you know, I just wanted to 252 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: make sure I ain't caught up in that, and uh, 253 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: you know, taking a step back as much as I 254 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: could and in the moment was important. 255 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: You've obviously had a lot of experience being being an 256 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 1: athlete yourself. You know, you set records, you go to 257 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: the nai A, you win national titles there, you uptake 258 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: into the Vision and college football realm, you win a 259 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Pack twelve title, you take a team to a national 260 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: championship in sports, like as athletes, coaches, everybody in the 261 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: performance world, you're always you know, you're moving, You're moving 262 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: up the ladder, You're coming in to succeed somebody like 263 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: arguably the greatest coach of all I'm in, Nick Saban. 264 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: How has your experience moving up, you know, in your 265 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: journey helped you kind of not see these expectations you 266 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: come into a seat like Alabama and succeeding Nick Saban, 267 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: Is there anything with that that you think about? 268 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: Well, I think my journey in general is just something 269 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: I'm super proud of because I've always focused on just 270 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: where I'm at, And really it's never been about getting 271 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: to an Alabama or it was never even about getting 272 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: even to a Washington or Fresno State. I mean, go 273 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: on and on. It was about just coaching ball, loving 274 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: the moment we're in, you know, raising a family, and 275 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: doing it with other people that had the same like 276 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: minded interests as I had in all those areas, both 277 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 4: football and family, and so you know, just enjoying that 278 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: journey and joying that ride. But I think, you know, 279 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: coming here, I just can't say enough about again being 280 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: embraced by the community. You know, Coach Saban, he's so 281 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: respectful and how he's trying to handle and he wants 282 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: to see the program. You can just tell he wants 283 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 4: it to be great, and he he wants it to 284 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 4: continue to go this direction and and us continue to 285 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 4: build on all the things he's put in place. And 286 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: so he's almost been over the top, respect respectful, trying 287 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 4: to keep that distance, and you know, I want him, 288 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: you know, to always know that, hey, this is this 289 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: is our program. Because everyone who ever set foot in 290 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: these buildings, and that's alumni, that's former staff members, everyone 291 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 4: who made this place great are always gonna feel we 292 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: want I want them to be a part of it. 293 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: When you like, when you play with other Alabama players, 294 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: it's like they've taken a drug or something like that. 295 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: They're so obsessed with Alabama truly, Like there's literally times 296 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: I walk into the cafeteria and Rashaun Evans and Derek 297 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: Henry are there's pointing people you lost to Alabama. You 298 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: lost to Alabama. Lot of pride there, they truly have, 299 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: like of any other team, the most school proud I've 300 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: ever seen anybody else. And so, now, like we'll just said, 301 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: you're taking over for a guy that is arguably probably 302 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: the greatest college football coach of all time. You're walking 303 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: into a room where guys when they commit this school, 304 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: they're expecting to win national championships. So they don't argue 305 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: about how many games they win. They argue about how 306 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 3: many national championships They went, oh you only got two? 307 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: I got Yeah, which class was better? Was there any 308 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: point for you where you sit down, you sit in 309 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 3: the nice chair that Nick Saban once sat, and you go, oh, fuck, 310 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: like this is this is I mean, there's gotta be 311 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: a level of like, this is a lot of responsibility. 312 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: And you're walking into a room of these guys signed 313 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: up to be coached by Nick Saban and now you 314 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: have come in you're like, we're gonna run this, this 315 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: is gonna be our offense. And keeping these kids around, 316 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: especially with Nil, there's got to be a lot of 317 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: tremendous you know pressure on that. 318 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 319 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you know what you signed up for. 320 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: And I guess it just always goes back to everyone's 321 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: human and I think that being around these guys, you 322 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: understand the reasons why they came here into this program, 323 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: and it's Alabama football. It has a lot to do 324 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: with coach Saban. You know, the guys in their commitments 325 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: to be in here, but they are just so proud 326 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: of this program and they want to be the ones 327 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: that carry on the legacy of this place. It's been 328 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 4: fun being around the alumni that that do have that pride. 329 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: I feel that, and it's you know, it's not an 330 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: ego thing. It's pride, you know. And these guys that 331 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: are in this program that chose to stay here over 332 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: the last couple of months, they believe in this place 333 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: and they know what we can accomplish. I have an 334 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: appreciation that they understand that it's really about them and 335 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 4: them sticking together. And the ones that stayed, man, they 336 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: are they are resilient. They're hard headed in some ways 337 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: because they man, we got to win a championship. We 338 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: got a chip on our shoulder, and you know, people 339 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: think we're going to fall off because of the transition 340 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 4: and all that. So it's been fun locking arms with 341 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: them and you know, helping them realize their goals and 342 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: the reasons that they came here and help it help 343 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: us through and make this progress. 344 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe was quoted by saying, you prove that you 345 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: were the right man for the job every single day 346 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: during springball. What is your relationship with him? 347 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: He's been He's special. He just has a heart of gold. 348 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: He wants it so bad, both personally and also for 349 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: this program. He's you know, takes on the responsibilities of 350 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: being the quarterback at Alabama with such grace. He's there 351 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: for others. He's willing to give as much as he can. 352 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm you know, just always checking in with him 353 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: to make sure he's good because he gets pulled in 354 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: a lot of different directions. But in the end, he 355 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: loves getting out there. He loves the game of football. 356 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: I mean we've talked about that a number of times. 357 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: He just loves everything that surrounds it, from the teamwork 358 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: and the leadership that he is asked of him to, 359 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: you know, just working on the daily skills. He loves 360 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: the film. He just loves so much about the game itself. 361 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: And you know, it's fun being around guys that are 362 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: willing to put in all the things and make the 363 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: sacrifices needed to go be great. 364 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: When you walk into the team meeting room for the 365 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: first time. What was your message to the team when 366 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: you first took the job. It's a great question. 367 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that was That was Friday night, and and 368 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: I knew that this was a group that had been 369 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 4: through a lot just in the past couple of days. 370 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 4: You know, I don't remember exactly what that message was. 371 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: It was a whirlwind for me and my family as well, 372 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: just a few hours earlier, you know it kind of 373 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 4: I had pretty much been off for the job, you know, 374 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: been through my emotions, uh within in regard to you know, 375 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: everything of Washington still certainly and even come close to 376 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: getting through that. But knew that the team just needed 377 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: to hear that. I was excited about, you know, joining them, 378 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 4: meeting them, meeting them where they're at, and getting to 379 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 4: know them and appreciated their patience because with all the 380 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: noise that was around the program and and all the 381 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 4: noise that they were probably hearing individually, and you know, 382 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: being pulled in different places and going different different directions, 383 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: they just, uh, you know, their belief in Alabama was 384 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 4: something you could tell and feel right away. And there 385 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 4: was there's a connection with a few of the guys, 386 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: and I think those guys quickly just uh, you know, 387 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: held the team in place. There were some staff members 388 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: here that did a great job, but you know, that 389 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: was that was a meeting I think, just to to 390 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: get in there and tell you know how excited I 391 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: was to be a part of this special place I have. 392 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: I have another one. 393 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: I was just I wanted to ask him about his 394 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: very first phone call when he heard that he got 395 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: the job. 396 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I I felt like it was kind 397 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: of going in that direction. So it wasn't necessarily a surprise, 398 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 4: but it was you know, I think it was just 399 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: more about being honored to to you know, to have 400 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 4: that responsibility to be the head coach here. It's just 401 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: something again I won't take lightly. And you know I 402 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: had thought through, you know, the night before just if 403 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: this opportunity came up working just talking through with my family, 404 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 4: you know, you know what that would all mean and uh, 405 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: you know the moving and the life changes and stuff 406 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 4: that we'd be going through. So but from a program standpoint, 407 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: it's just such an honor and a privilege. 408 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: I want to talk about the big dogs for a second, 409 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: the Hogs. How has it been for them transitioning in 410 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: this offense? Because they they obviously ran a lot of 411 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: zone read with Jalen in the backfield last year. But 412 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: it seems like, you guys, from what I was told 413 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: in the small little snippet, is you guys going more 414 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: zone outside zone type stuff. How have they been picking 415 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: that up? Because for me, transitioning from like a duo 416 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: gap scheme type offense into like the zone was like 417 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: at one point I wanted to quit. I was like 418 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: this is horrendous, and then and then quickly I was like, 419 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: this might be the best offense you can possibly be in. 420 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: How have they handled that transition? 421 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: I think that I think it's been great. I think 422 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: that really it's not that far off from what we 423 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: what they did before. It's just a matter of where 424 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: your tendencies, where your priorities, you know how many reps 425 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: you're practicing a certain concept versus another based on compared 426 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: to how they did it before. We certainly got to 427 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: use Jalen's skill set and you know, have him be 428 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: a threat to with the ball as much as possible. Uh. 429 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: And so you know, I don't feel like there's as 430 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: many changes as maybe you know some of the guys. 431 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's been seamless. Coach Cap has 432 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: done a great job. He's well versed in all the 433 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: schemes that we've done before, as well as being able 434 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: to help the guys translate things you know that they 435 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: had done technically of you know, language wise in our offense. 436 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: Just that translation. He's he's super super sharp, and you 437 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: know his relationship with these guys. You can see it 438 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: coming out as the spring's gone on, and just how 439 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: much better they got from practice one to practice fifteen. 440 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: I think it's probably the position group that if I 441 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: had to pick one or two, they would certainly be 442 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: in that mix. As far as the improvements that they've 443 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: shown here in the spring. 444 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: When you're looking at when you're recruiting guys, like everybody's 445 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: got all the tangible things, the surface level things, what 446 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: are some intangibles or some values or character things that 447 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: you look for, like when you're recruiting guys to a 448 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: place like Alabama. 449 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's you know, you know, toughness is 450 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 4: always going to be something that I think is just 451 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 4: critical of what doesn't matter where you're at. I think 452 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: the game was meant to be played that way. The 453 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: championship teams have that mental toughness, that physical toughness that 454 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: you have to have. But I think there's also the discipline, 455 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 4: accountability along with just you know, a personality that's kind 456 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 4: of like wide eye, just excited to learn, excited to grow. 457 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: I just feel like they haven't arrived and that there's 458 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: a there's a there's there's not a ceiling that they're 459 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: they're looking at and they're far from it if they 460 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: if they think there is, and so it's just a 461 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 4: matter of you know, growth mindset and you know, guys 462 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: who want to come in here and be a part 463 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: of something, not just you know, it's all about me. 464 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: And you know, so we always talk about in terms 465 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: of our non negotiables being family, accountable, and toughness, and so, 466 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: you know, I think I hit on as all three 467 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 4: of those and just doing it the right way, do 468 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: it with class, integrity, and also, you know, while you're here, 469 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 4: making sure we get that degree as well. 470 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: A couple of fun questions, You got a couple. I 471 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: got a couple of fun ones. 472 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: Okay, oh hang on, let me go on, let me 473 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: go one more serious boy. 474 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Okay, what traditions of Alabama do you that you've learned 475 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: about that you're keeping and keeping part of the program. 476 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: And what are some things culture wise, tradition wise do 477 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: you feel like you're bringing to Alabama. 478 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: That's a that's a really good question. And I think 479 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 4: that everything. I don't want to say every day I 480 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: learned something, but I think, you know, there's a there's 481 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 4: been many times you're like, Okay, I think I got this, 482 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: understand I think I understand this. I understand that you 483 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 4: know what's important, what's been done for decades, what's been 484 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: done just maybe over the last year, you know, and 485 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 4: understanding this was this sounds like something they really like, 486 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: But is it really a tradition? 487 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 2: You know? 488 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: And so you know, just I think guys just the 489 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: pride they have in some of the simple things. Uh, 490 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: you know how they look and you know how we 491 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: practice and you know, tucking shirts in and for workouts 492 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: and practice. I mean, those are just things that just 493 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: the pride of the place, uh that come out. Obviously, 494 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: there's the walk you know that we had and that's 495 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 4: special and you know seeing those guys do that a 496 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: a was was really cool. But you know, the fourth 497 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 4: quarter program is something these guys just really believe in. 498 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: And so a lot of these traditions are things that 499 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 4: just are are they're so accustomed to. And I could 500 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 4: go on and on, but you know, keeping some of 501 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: those things and and still bringing in the things that 502 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: I think have been been good. If it adds uh, 503 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 4: it adds to our culture and it's something that you 504 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 4: know the guys might enjoy. You know, we're going to 505 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: balance that between you know, hey, these are really important 506 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: aspects of Alabama football, and these are some of the 507 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 4: things that have worked for me. And you know, I'm 508 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 4: not married to a lot of things. But I think 509 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: it's more about the feel and the energy and what 510 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 4: can what can we bring to add to what's already here? 511 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: Did I read did I read something about thunderstruck? 512 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's with the with the out out in our 513 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 4: game day, you know, the walk. 514 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 2: That is that yours? That of it? 515 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: Was that a Bama thing? That's Bama. I mean that goes, 516 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: that goes hard, struggles hard. It is a good song. 517 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a classic football song. 518 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 519 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: What's a core value? Not a core value, but what 520 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: is like a non negotiable thing that you've brought with 521 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: you to Alabama as far as a culture deal, this 522 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 3: is how we're gonna go about business. 523 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: Honestly, there's I mean there's probably the guys would probably 524 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: the probably guys would probably say there's a lot of things. 525 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: You know what would the players say something that's something 526 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: a wrinkle that's been thrown in. 527 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: You know? 528 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 4: Well, I actually I can't think it's something that. The 529 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 4: one that made some waves early in the spring was 530 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: you know, we play music in practice, you know, so 531 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 4: that was something that hadn't been done before. So not 532 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: that I feel like you have to, but I think 533 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: there's a lot of benefits that can come from it, 534 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: you know, trying to you know, well, first of all, 535 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 4: the juice and energy the vibe that can it can create, 536 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 4: but also I think there's ways you can utilize it 537 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: for even you know, distractions, right, you know, and so 538 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of distractions on game day, 539 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: right one hundred thousand people, there's music playing in the stadium, 540 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: and so I think there's a lot of things we 541 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 4: actually and I tell these guys, I'm intentional on telling 542 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: them the things that maybe I'm trying to do someday 543 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 4: when I feel like they're even super locked in, you know, 544 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: just cranking it up a little bit louder to see 545 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 4: if see if they can work through that and uh, 546 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: you know, listen a little harder, you know, communicate a 547 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: little better, you know, hand signals and stuff. You know, 548 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 4: you always practice noise stuff. Uh, you know throughout the 549 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: week especially you know, home and away, depending on your 550 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: offense and defense. But uh, you know, those are just 551 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: some of the things that I think are our benefits 552 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 4: of that. That was something that hit the i know, 553 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: the waves a little bit and our guys, our guys 554 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 4: enjoyed it, you know, and enjoyed it, and again it's 555 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: been a. 556 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: Positive its As players, I think we can all agree 557 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: with the music is the music? 558 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: Is the music? 559 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: Are you taking requests or is this a set playlist? 560 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: Not? 561 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: Ye, there's we have specific people and it's been it's 562 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: been transferred on. Uh, Robbie, my guy from Washington, he 563 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: started it, and I'm like, you know, we gotta have 564 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: the clean versions. We gotta have that. 565 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: You know. 566 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 4: We got around brown practice. But uh, you know you 567 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 4: know that that and I think he's kind of pushed 568 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 4: it on. So they'll certainly take requests. Yeah, and at 569 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 4: some point I'm sure they'll get the themes of the 570 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 4: day or themes of the week and uh and so forth. 571 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: So you mentioned something about tucked in shirts and basically 572 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: details of how you operate around the facility, on the 573 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: practice field and everything else. 574 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you got those. 575 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: You feel like you had some of those ideas when 576 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: you talk all the way back to I was on 577 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: a two and eight team, losing team, and then I 578 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: was part of a national championship team when you played, 579 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: like how those locker rooms look differently and what it 580 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: takes to win and even if they Hey, I might 581 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: sound ridiculous saying you have to have your tucked in shirt, 582 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: but there's a way, I promise you, if you just 583 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: trust me, these are the things that it takes over 584 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: and over consistently to get to the top. 585 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: You gotta think Saban's a tucked at shirt guy. 586 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Got to Yeah, it's great, but being a part I mean, 587 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: we've all been a part of bad locker rooms. 588 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: We've been a part of good locker rooms. 589 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: And what good culture looks like in bad culture looks 590 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: like we were a lot of have earrings. 591 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I think I think, I think 592 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: is what all these things whenever you're talking about you know, 593 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 4: those type of uh you call it non negotiables or 594 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: whatever they are. I think it always it always goes 595 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 4: back to pride in who we are and that you're 596 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 4: willing to be a part of a team. And and 597 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 4: it's not a sacrifice, but man, looking good for us 598 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: is important. And this is one of the things that 599 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 4: we think is about looking good and looking unified and 600 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 4: and looking the way you're supposed to when when you're 601 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: representing Alabama, you know, whether it's in the weight room, 602 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: whether it's on the practice field or on game day, 603 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: you know, and so you know what what your facility 604 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: looks like, and are you picking up after yourself? Those 605 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: are just like those are classy things you should do 606 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 4: as just a human being, right, and it shows that 607 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 4: you know the simple things. We're not going to overlook 608 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: those and just be out there and focused just on 609 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 4: the football part. And you know, I know many programs 610 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: and many people have said the same thing, and I 611 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: truly believe it. How you do anything is how you 612 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: do everything, and those things right there, and how you 613 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: treat people. We're on the road, you know, I have 614 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: no doubt that these guys are gonna, you know, travel well, 615 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: you know, represent themselves in our program in a first 616 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 4: class way, home way wherever they're at on their own, 617 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 4: doesn't have doesn't have to just be when we're together 618 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: as a team. But those values come out in those 619 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 4: type of actions and those type of things that you 620 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 4: feel are important to your program. 621 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: How you do anything, how you do everything, phenomena, phenomenal 622 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: unless you want some good I'm. 623 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: Nervous questions, Yeah, well I just don't want to. 624 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm nervous too. When you say you're nervous, 625 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: three of. 626 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: Us down the line. Now that awkward is really important. 627 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: There's playing everything. 628 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: Out of play as I got to because I don't 629 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: want to be in that. I'm not gonna be nasty, 630 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: but I want to. I want to talk about I 631 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: do want to talk about Michigan a little bit. If 632 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: that's okay. And but you've said there's there's pain there, 633 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: and I don't want to go in a direction that 634 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: this has been a fun interview, it's been a good time, 635 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: and I just don't want to ruin the interview. So 636 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: I'll I'll pivot and we'll just talk about the SEC 637 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: for a second. All Right, A lot of bad dogs 638 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: out here, a lot of strong dogs out here, a 639 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: lot of strong head coaches. If it really came down 640 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: to it and you had to fight these head coaches, 641 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: do you think you're losing to any of the head coaches? 642 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: Man, I'm not even going there. 643 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: There, we won't do any. 644 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: Didn't work. 645 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: Who's a who's a head coach? 646 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: And this, you know, out of respect for the head coach, 647 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: like who's the head coach? You would love to obviously 648 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: win the game, but you're you've obviously competed in your 649 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: own journey to get to you know, Washington. Maybe it 650 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: happened in Washington, maybe it hasn't happened yet, but that 651 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: you would, you know, love to be across the sideline 652 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: on it. You kind of pinch yourself, like, Yo, I'm 653 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: coaching against so and so. 654 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I mean, I think a lot of 655 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: those coaches are are here, and I guess I even 656 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: just going back, you know, the last two years, UH 657 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: has so much respect for you know, these coaches that 658 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 4: have been doing it for many years, the coordinators working 659 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: their way up, just very similar to the journey I've 660 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: been on. And so I've I've stolen a lot of stuff, 661 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 4: just like every coach does from from everyone. We've watched 662 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 4: the film, We've watched the you know, cutups in the 663 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: off season, and so you know, you know, you learn 664 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 4: how you learn what to do, you know, maybe not 665 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: what what not to do sometimes, you know, uh as 666 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 4: far as like handling your team, uh, you know, publicly, 667 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: socially and all that. So there's a lot of these 668 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: just are pretty much the coaches in this conference that 669 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 4: have nothing but respect for and you know, I know 670 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: that every Saturday, you know, you got to be at 671 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: your best. And that's how it is. I think at 672 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: Alabama anyway, everyone's gonna bring their a game. You know, 673 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: We've had conversations about rivalries, and we've had a lot 674 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 4: of teams and people that I know, and they felt 675 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 4: like Alabama was their rival, you know, just because you know, 676 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 4: it was such a big game each and every time 677 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: that game was played. So I'm excited about, you know, 678 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: lining up and you know, being challenged to be my 679 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: best each and every week against all these coaches. 680 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: Is there a coach that, as you're progressing through your 681 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: learning curve as a an offensive coordinator, a head coach, 682 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: whether it's a mentor or a coach out there that 683 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: kind of jumped out at you when you're learning about 684 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: situational ball and how to you know, if you saw 685 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: somebody else in it one way, you kind of dove 686 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: into their tape all season long, they kind of helped 687 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: you along the way. 688 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 4: I think, you know, there's been coaches, especially when I 689 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: was a coordinator and after i'd been a head coach 690 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: for five years at small college and you know, I 691 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: think about the leadership aspect and how you know, Chris 692 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 4: Creighton at Eastern Michigan, it was just, you know, I 693 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: just learned so much on how bringing a team together 694 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 4: happened there. I think about Jeff Tedford and how you know, 695 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 4: we're there were one and eleven before we got there, 696 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: and it was you know, we're not gonna We're gonna 697 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: take our guys and we're gonna maximize what they can be. 698 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: And the next year, you know, you're ten and four 699 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: and then twelve and two and really had nothing to 700 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: do with bringing a bunch of portal guys in. It 701 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 4: was taking who you had right there, believing in them, 702 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: putting some structure and organization together some you know, offensively. 703 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 4: I learned a lot, you know, during those two years there. 704 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: And then you know Indiana, you know, being thrown in 705 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: the mix there with you know, just being part of 706 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: the Big ten and being challenged to be your best 707 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 4: at the Power five level. And so you know Tom Allen, 708 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 4: you know, so you know, he just the passion he 709 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 4: brought out stuck with me, you know, and how he 710 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: dove into the relationships with the guys, and so it 711 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 4: is something at every place along the way. I think 712 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 4: it's a lot of times the people you work with 713 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: each and every day, the position coaches that I continue 714 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 4: to learn from. I'm learning from something from our coaches 715 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 4: right now. You know, hired an amazing staff, and to me, 716 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: that's the key. Has never stopped learning, never stopped growing 717 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: up at your staff. 718 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: Nick Sheridan, he and I played together in college. What 719 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 3: have you seen from him? From who Sheridan Sharonick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 720 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: What have you seen from him in college? 721 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, I was a young boy, he was 722 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: a senior. Yeah yeah. What have you like seen from 723 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: him to make him the man for the job to 724 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: be the OC? 725 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 726 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, working backwards, he's done an amazing 727 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 4: job this spring, just pulling everything together. He's he's more 728 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: than ready for this opportunity. You know. The cool thing 729 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 4: about him is that he he was patient. You know, 730 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 4: there's opportunities he certainly could have had over the last 731 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: couple of years, you know, because he is someone who 732 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: is known as a very bright mind, understands the game 733 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 4: on another level. But we had a chance to work 734 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 4: together in twenty nineteen at Indiana and he, you know, 735 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: from from an ego standpoint or just an unselfish standpoint, 736 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 4: move from quarterbacks to tight ends and you know, for 737 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 4: me to come in and coach quarterbacks, which I feel 738 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 4: is a big piece of being an offensive coordinators being 739 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: in that room every day, you know, but learning and 740 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 4: working with him, I remember just thinking how bright he 741 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: was for considering, you know, his age and how many 742 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: years he had actually been at high level of football 743 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 4: already at that time, then two more years at Washington, 744 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 4: you know, where again he's just right there. You know, 745 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 4: brings a lot of ideas, brings a lot of just 746 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 4: game planning thoughts, helping you pull everything together. It's details, 747 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 4: but it's also a big picture all mixed in one. 748 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: And then he's just such a great relationship builder. He's 749 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 4: got great personality. Guys I think enjoy being around him. 750 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 4: He leads in a way where he's firm, you know, 751 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: he's got his things that he's feel strong about. But 752 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 4: he also you know, enjoys, enjoys, you know, just the 753 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 4: camaraderie and enjoys working together with the staff. And he's 754 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 4: done an awesome job having the entire staff all feel 755 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 4: a part of it, you know, And that's I think 756 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 4: been a big part of my success over the years 757 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: is having you know, the strengths and of everyone and 758 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 4: tapping into their strengths, you know, be why we were successful, 759 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 4: whether it's offensively or as a full team with. 760 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: Guys that are working under you, and you become such 761 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: a cohesive group. Especially with all the success that you've had, 762 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: Guys are eventually going to leave. They're going to go 763 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 3: to you know, find they're going to elevate themselves and 764 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 3: try to become head coaches just like you. When you 765 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: see yourself having the success you did at Washington and andever 766 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: we will have here, do you keep something in the 767 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 3: back of your head, be like, all right, if this 768 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: guy goes and I have these two guys in my 769 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: head as are always a constant game plan of a 770 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: depth chart of who you would want to fill those spots. 771 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, in a way, it kind of happened 772 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 4: here already. You know, Ryan Grubb was was the offensive coordinator, 773 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 4: you know, Washington with US and and coming here and 774 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 4: then got the opportunity to be with the Seattle Seahawks. 775 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 4: And you know, there are guys that I would love. 776 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: You know, I'm strong on trying to keep the continuity 777 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 4: of your system. Of course, the people is where it 778 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: all starts, but the continuity of the system. And and 779 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 4: I know offensively that continuity of our system will always 780 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 4: exist because it's the system that you know, we've built 781 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 4: over over many years now. But both sides of the ball, 782 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: there certainly is a method. And I've done this at Fresno, 783 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 4: did this at Fresno State, did this at Washington, where 784 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 4: there's there's some depth to our staff. Guys, many guys 785 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: who have called games as coordinators at the power five 786 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 4: level on both sides of the ball, guys who you 787 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 4: know are just low ego willing to come in be 788 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 4: part of it right now. And you know, again hopeful, 789 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 4: I hope we are so successful to where those opportunities 790 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 4: come up for our staff. You know, that's how I 791 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 4: got to the place where I'm at. And you know, 792 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 4: I'd be pretty hypocritical if I didn't say that, if 793 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 4: I didn't want to root for these guys to get 794 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 4: their opportunity someday as well. 795 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite post game you will after 796 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: a win, whether it's a post game you like, I 797 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: always love the post game cigar, post game beer, post 798 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: game milkshake, post game burger. 799 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: Something with the family, Yeah, maybe indulge on a meal. 800 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always with the family. It's always And you know, 801 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 4: you play day games, you play night games, so it's 802 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 4: never it's never the same, but uh, you know, it's 803 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 4: always with the family, you know. And if if it's 804 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 4: a day game, you'd love to have the staff over. 805 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 4: And I think that's one thing I'm excited about here 806 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 4: is just proximity and where we're all going to be living. 807 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 4: You know, when you have that time, just continue to 808 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 4: grow our group together. I'm really excited about that. But 809 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 4: you know, I think you just get you're so exhausted, 810 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 4: usually from a game and the things that go into it. 811 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 4: Winning a football game at the college level is hard. 812 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 4: I don't care where you're at. It takes everything, and uh, 813 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 4: you know, enjoying it for that little moment before you 814 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 4: flipped the sunday started all over again. I think that's 815 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 4: a big part of the process. So trying to take 816 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 4: a deep breath and just enjoying what happened that day 817 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 4: after a win is a big part of I think 818 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 4: the process. 819 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: M I think, thank we feel good man. That was awesome. Yeah, yeah, man. 820 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 4: All over the country and really appreciate you guys coming 821 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 4: to see us. 822 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was nervous about being here. Yeah. 823 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 3: I mean you walk in the door and you look 824 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 3: at a bunch of rings and watch it immediately and 825 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, we're in the present. 826 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: You're in the Mecca. But yeah, thank you very much. 827 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: Everybody's been awesome to us, and thank you for this interview. 828 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: It's been incredible. 829 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 3: We really do. 830 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: Appreciate it, and I mean I appreciate that respect because 831 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 4: I know where you guys played too, you know, and uh, 832 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 4: you know that's that says a lot about you guys. 833 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 4: So thanks for thanks for coming and coming to join us. 834 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, absolutely, coach, thank you man, And we'll hook 835 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: you up with the dad. We'll hook you up with 836 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: some dad. 837 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 4: I need it, I need it. I'll take it.