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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly
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Speaker 2: Davis today. I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and
Speaker 2: Sophie Lichterman. This episode, we are covering the week of
Speaker 2: July sixteenth to July twenty three. It has been six
Speaker 2: months since Trump has took office. How do we feel
Speaker 2: about that, folks?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wow, there can't be three and a half four years
Speaker 4: of this, Like there just can't, Like there will not
Speaker 4: be a country left.
Speaker 5: Yeah, six months feels like a lifetime and not like
Speaker 5: it feels like no time has passed at all.
Speaker 3: So yeah, sixpence of us doing this? She's wild? Was
Speaker 3: that forty two months left? Am I correctly auditioning? I
Speaker 3: don't you' mar hey is six months?
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Speaker 2: Let's go straight to Epstein, which is also what Hillary
Speaker 2: Clinton's black ops kill squad said after they broke into
Speaker 2: the jail.
Speaker 4: Wow, Garrison, you are spreading disinformation. That is the one
Speaker 4: group of people we can confirm did I kill Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 5: Harrison Just because Robert's not here, does it mean you
Speaker 5: have to go down to his level of humor?
Speaker 2: I think yesterday or two days ago, we released Epstein
Speaker 2: Update episode where we discussed the first Wall Street Journal
Speaker 2: story where they released this type written note given to
Speaker 2: Epstein on his fiftieth birthday from Trump, where he wrote
Speaker 2: this fake dialogue conversation between him and Epstein saying, among
Speaker 2: other things, we have certain things in common Jeffrey, Yes,
Speaker 2: we do. Come to think of it, Enigma's never age.
Speaker 2: Have you noticed that? As a matter of fact, it
Speaker 2: was clear to me last time I saw you, pal
Speaker 2: is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day
Speaker 2: be another wonderful secret quote, which is who you could
Speaker 2: have just wrote like a pedophile confession note and it
Speaker 2: would be less incriminating than whatever creepy shit you're doing
Speaker 2: with this. So if you want to listen to our
Speaker 2: full update episode on that, just pop over to the
Speaker 2: other episode after Executive Disorder is done. We do have
Speaker 2: some other updates to add on because the Epstein thing
Speaker 2: keeps being in the news despite the will of Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: who definitely wants this not in the news. In fact,
Speaker 2: he is trying out a number of distraction techniques, including
Speaker 2: releasing some files related to the death of Martin Luther King,
Speaker 2: which when everyone's asking to release the files, that's not
Speaker 2: the files they were talking about.
Speaker 1: Also, the family did not want that to happen.
Speaker 2: It's very dispectful and has stated that for a while.
Speaker 2: This is a very cheap way to run some distraction.
Speaker 2: Last week, Pambondi sent a request to release the grand
Speaker 2: jury files on the Epstein investigation, and this was just
Speaker 2: a way to perform transparency because these types of files
Speaker 2: usually do not get released, like this was most likely
Speaker 2: going to get blocked by the judge, and they knew
Speaker 2: that when they sent this request. This was just to
Speaker 2: perform this like gesture of transparency, knowing that it wouldn't
Speaker 2: actually lead to anything. And all of this stuff goes
Speaker 2: against what Trump was saying, like a year ago. A
Speaker 2: year ago on Fox News, Trump said that he would
Speaker 2: release the files and then although he did kind of
Speaker 2: catch himself and realize that that might not be in
Speaker 2: his best interest, because he kind of corrected and said
Speaker 2: that he would have to make sure there's not phony
Speaker 2: stuff in there. Let's play the clip.
Speaker 6: Would you declassify the nine to eleven files?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Would you declassified JFK.
Speaker 4: Files, Yeah, which I did a lot of it.
Speaker 3: Would you declassify the Epstein files?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would.
Speaker 7: I guess I would. I think that less so because
Speaker 7: you know, you don't know if you don't want to
Speaker 7: affect people's lives of its phony stuff in there, because
Speaker 7: there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.
Speaker 4: But I think I would.
Speaker 1: What does that fucking mean? That whole world?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of interesting things in there. Notably,
Speaker 2: when Fox first aired this, they only played the first
Speaker 2: half of his answer where he said yeah, I would,
Speaker 2: and did not air the part where we said, well,
Speaker 2: actually maybe not because there's a lot of phony stuff
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Eventually the full clip went online, but at first they
Speaker 2: released this shorter clip to make Trump look better, which
Speaker 2: there's a lot of similarity to Trump's lawsuit against sixty
Speaker 2: minutes in paramount, when they released two different clips of
Speaker 2: Kamala Haara's answering a question in like the same week
Speaker 2: on two different shows, answer the same question, like two
Speaker 2: halves of the answer. Trump said that this was done
Speaker 2: explicitly to change the outcome of the election and sued
Speaker 2: sixty Minutes for this. And because Paramount, the parent company
Speaker 2: of CBS News, is trying to complete a merger with
Speaker 2: sky Dance, which needs to be approved by the Trump administration,
Speaker 2: Paramount had started interfering with the affairs of sixty minutes,
Speaker 2: had just canceled the Colbert A Late show, possibly in
Speaker 2: efforts to appease Trump, and just gave him this, this
Speaker 2: massive bribe as a way to get out of the lawsuit.
Speaker 2: So very similar situation where news companies are playing two
Speaker 2: different things from the same answer. I think the one
Speaker 2: that happened on Fox News is way more egregious than
Speaker 2: the one sixty Minutes Dead. I think the sixty minutes
Speaker 2: one makes sense, But that's just a whole tiny aside.
Speaker 2: Releasing Epstein files is something that Trump has still been
Speaker 2: talking about. Last week, on Wednesday, July sixteenth, in an
Speaker 2: Oval Office press conference, he was asked if he would
Speaker 2: get Pambondi to try to release more documents. He answered
Speaker 2: like this, will you ask a trade general Pambondi to
Speaker 2: release more documents?
Speaker 4: To finally put this controversy to that.
Speaker 7: You know, whatever is credible, she can release. If a
Speaker 7: document is credible, if the document's there that is credible,
Speaker 7: she can release. I think it's I think it's good,
Speaker 7: but it's just really it's just a subject. He's dead,
Speaker 7: he's gone, and yeah, all it is is the Republicans.
Speaker 7: Certain Republicans got duped by the Democrats and they're following
Speaker 7: a Democrat playbooker.
Speaker 2: So, after this, Pambondi sent a request to a judge
Speaker 2: to unseal the Epstein Maxwell grand jury transcripts, and again
Speaker 2: this is the move to feign transparency. Attorney Sarah Chrissoff,
Speaker 2: assistant US attorney in Manhattan from two s eight, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, told the AP that this move was a
Speaker 2: quote unquote distraction. Quote the president is trying to present
Speaker 2: himself as if he's doing something here and really it's
Speaker 2: nothing unquote. She estimates that these transcripts could be as
Speaker 2: little as sixty pages anyway, because it is standard practice
Speaker 2: for the Southern District of New York to put very
Speaker 2: little information in these transcripts compared to some other states,
Speaker 2: and as expected earlier this week, the judge denied this request,
Speaker 2: which the Trump admin knew was going to happen because
Speaker 2: they don't release grand jury transcripts. The whole point of
Speaker 2: a grand jury is that it's secrets that she did this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so this was never going to happen.
Speaker 1: I fear that's.
Speaker 2: But this was a move to make it look like
Speaker 2: they were having some level of transparency. Another tactic Trump
Speaker 2: has done to distract from the Epstein story is directing
Speaker 2: in Tulsa Gabbert to run this huge distraction campaign by
Speaker 2: talking about the Obama treeson investigation.
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll play a clip here.
Speaker 6: There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
Speaker 6: his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence
Speaker 6: community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it
Speaker 6: would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it
Speaker 6: to the American people as though it were true.
Speaker 4: It wasn't.
Speaker 6: The report that we released today's shows in great detail
Speaker 6: how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources,
Speaker 6: They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.
Speaker 6: They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence community standards and withheld
Speaker 6: the truth from the American people.
Speaker 2: Very serious stuff.
Speaker 1: Just looks like a villain from the Orville.
Speaker 2: What they're talking about is, yeah, there was legitimate investigations
Speaker 2: into Russia's meddling in the twenty sixteen election. What they
Speaker 2: were unable to prove is conclusive evidence that Trump colluded
Speaker 2: with the Russians. But this meddling was real and was proven.
Speaker 2: This is stuff that they found and Obama was president
Speaker 2: at the time, and yeah, he's gonna know about the investigation.
Speaker 2: So they're trying to turn that into this whole giant,
Speaker 2: giant hoax regarding Obama trying to steal the twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: election again, an election that everyone knows Trump won. Trump
Speaker 2: was president from twenty seventeen to early twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: something that some people have tried to forget. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they're trying to run like all of these distractions just
Speaker 2: to keep people from talking about Epstein and this something
Speaker 2: that Trump's really good at. All he needs to do
Speaker 2: is keep his base from turning on him. And the
Speaker 2: way he's gonna do that is make them angry at
Speaker 2: other people. He has to find new targets to make
Speaker 2: his base upset at and right now he's trying it
Speaker 2: out with Obama. Right, He's done that with Biden for years,
Speaker 2: He's done that with Clinton for years. Obama is the
Speaker 2: new guy that he hasn't really targeted as much. So
Speaker 2: now he's trying to get his supporters really mad at Obama.
Speaker 2: And that is the whole way that he's trying to
Speaker 2: hold onto their support and hold onto their power. Because, yeah,
Speaker 2: some of the Epstein stuff may be a little bit weird,
Speaker 2: but did you see how Obama tried to steal the election?
Speaker 2: And this is his whole strategy. And he laid the
Speaker 2: strategy out at a press conference earlier this week where
Speaker 2: he's seen like coaching Republicans to respond to questions about
Speaker 2: Epstein by just talking about Obama and the Russian election
Speaker 2: interference investigation, the quote unquote Russia hopes.
Speaker 8: But remember this, Obama cheated on the election, and we
Speaker 8: have it called hard blue, and it's getting even more
Speaker 8: so because the stuff that's coming in is not even believable.
Speaker 8: So and you should mention that every time they give
Speaker 8: you a question that's not appropriate, just say, oh, by
Speaker 8: the way, Obama cheated on the election. You'll watch the
Speaker 8: camera turn off instantly.
Speaker 2: And this is the strategy he uses. Whenever he's asked
Speaker 2: about something, he'll talk about the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax,
Speaker 2: the Hunter, Biden laptop, things that aren't even real, things
Speaker 2: that he's like successfully syoped the country into believing are
Speaker 2: like real things. But whenever he's asked a question about Epstein,
Speaker 2: you can immediately pivot to that and have that control
Speaker 2: the conversation. And he's laying out the strategy here. This
Speaker 2: is what I was talking about last week in d
Speaker 2: about how Trump like dictates reality through speech, and he's
Speaker 2: trying to coach his fellow Republicans on how to do it.
Speaker 2: And they have to catch up on a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff because Trump's ties to Epstein have been known for
Speaker 2: a long long time. I'm going to play a very
Speaker 2: very gross clip from around the turn of the millennia
Speaker 2: talking about eating eighteen models.
Speaker 4: What did you do last night?
Speaker 2: For fun?
Speaker 7: I actually went to the Fashion Award show.
Speaker 4: Models working on. But Donald, do you worry because you
Speaker 4: have a daughter who's a model?
Speaker 7: I do, and I have a deal with her. She's
Speaker 7: just seventeen and she's doing great, Ivanka, and she made
Speaker 7: me promise her swear to her that I would never
Speaker 7: date a girl younger than her.
Speaker 2: So why did you grow with Howard?
Speaker 5: And she grows older?
Speaker 7: Right, the field is getting very limited.
Speaker 2: To deal now that she's seventeen. His dating field is
Speaker 2: getting very limited. I wonder what he could mean by that.
Speaker 2: I wonder what that could be insinuating.
Speaker 1: Really fucking girls.
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, this shit is actually deeply fucking stick Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's hideous.
Speaker 4: And also like the fact that the Democrats didn't spend
Speaker 4: the entire election just calling him a pedophile and running
Speaker 4: ads that were just this man as a pedophile, Like.
Speaker 2: This is stuff we've known for a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is all like in the public domain decades
Speaker 3: and decades.
Speaker 2: This is from a Guardian article in twenty twenty. At
Speaker 2: forty three years old, Donald Trump asked a seventeen year
Speaker 2: old girl on a date. Trump asked her out for
Speaker 2: dinner in the summer of nineteen eighty nine at an
Speaker 2: industry soiree. She recalls Trump asking how old she was, quote,
Speaker 2: I said seventeen, and he said that's just great, You're
Speaker 2: not too old, not too young unquote.
Speaker 3: Legally speaking, too young.
Speaker 2: Outrageous, outrageous stuff. And we have some breaking news from
Speaker 2: just a few hours ago. We're recording this. On Wednesday,
Speaker 2: a second Wall Street Journal article has hit the Trump Towers.
Speaker 4: A new article.
Speaker 2: Talking about the Justice Department officials reviewing Attorney General Pam
Speaker 2: Bondi's quote unquote truckload of Jeffrey Epstein documents and discovering
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump's name appears multiple times. According to senior
Speaker 2: administration officials notified Trump about this in May, saying that
Speaker 2: a few other high profile names are also in the documents,
Speaker 2: and that the DOJ would not be releasing these documents
Speaker 2: in order to quote unquote protect victims. As if you
Speaker 2: can't censor victims' names or censored how sexual abast material.
Speaker 2: This is just a complete cover up.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh and by the way, in late breaking news, that's
Speaker 4: sure to make everyone considerably more normal. Epstein's defense lawyer,
Speaker 4: Roy Black, who's the guy who got him off from
Speaker 4: like going to prison for a billion years in two
Speaker 4: thousand and seven, just died like today, So okay, sure,
Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton kills squad, it's really really working working over
Speaker 4: time this point, Like Donald Trump Kills Squad questionable, absolutely
Speaker 4: absolutely need to be retiring the Hillary Clinton Kills squad
Speaker 4: jokes because like.
Speaker 2: I think it's very likely that Epstein did kill himself.
Speaker 2: I do not think you need to believe in that
Speaker 2: sort of like conspiratorial thinking to also believe that there's
Speaker 2: documented evidence of Trump dating teenagers and wanting to date
Speaker 2: majors for the past like forty years, and that's something
Speaker 2: that everyone should be aware of. Like, that's not a
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory, and you don't need to believe in conspiratorial
Speaker 2: thinking to think that that's very likely.
Speaker 4: That said, I do want to establish there is at
Speaker 4: least one person on the podcast who thinks that he
Speaker 4: might not have I don't know, but every single time
Speaker 4: they do more weird shit about it, I'm like, maybe
Speaker 4: is this conspiracy brain thinking?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: But I mean, editing the video didn't make anyone more
Speaker 3: certain that he killed himself.
Speaker 2: So as we enter the more than six month marker
Speaker 2: in the Trump administration, I think we should check in
Speaker 2: on howthy youths feel about Donald Trump. Famously, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of reporting about how gen Z is, like, you know,
Speaker 2: swinging more conservative, how gen Z helped get Trump elected,
Speaker 2: and if you look at some February approval numbers, it
Speaker 2: does seem that between ages of eighteen and twenty nine.
Speaker 3: So too old. Using the aforementioned criteria.
Speaker 2: Trump did have a plus ten points approval, with fifty
Speaker 2: five percent approving only forty five percent disapproving of his performance. Now,
Speaker 2: come July, things have changed dramatically in the youth bracket
Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty nine, with only twenty eight percent approval.
Speaker 2: It's a negative forty four points and seventy two percent disapproval,
Speaker 2: which is a net fifty four point negative swing.
Speaker 4: That's genuinely astonishing, Like.
Speaker 2: That's a huge jump.
Speaker 3: But it's try to jump, Garrison, it's a fall.
Speaker 2: That's you're right, You're right, it is going down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's a plummet.
Speaker 2: This is according to a CBS News polls again, and
Speaker 2: I do think me is right. I don't know if
Speaker 2: Trump's going to care about this very much because this
Speaker 2: does seem to be higher than his preferred dating bracket,
Speaker 2: So I don't think he's looking for the approval of
Speaker 2: people between eighteen to twenty nine. But this still might
Speaker 2: affect him culturally, I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Talking of things that have gone down badly, Garrison,
Speaker 3: it is now a detigation to pivot to advertisements.
Speaker 2: Advertisements are doing just fine from what I hear, and
Speaker 2: we are back. Let's do an immigration segment for the
Speaker 2: middle of the show, and I guess I'll first start
Speaker 2: with Ice Watch. So the past few weeks, I've seen
Speaker 2: multiple videos of ICE pulling over cars and sometimes not
Speaker 2: even like pulling over, just like blocking cars and narrow streets,
Speaker 2: like stopping them forcefully and then drawing guns as they
Speaker 2: get out of the car. By the time they are
Speaker 2: like door open, feed on the ground, gun already drawn.
Speaker 2: And they then descend on activists doing ICE watch, basically
Speaker 2: people who follow ICE agents around to alert their community
Speaker 2: of where ICE currently is. Usually they're live streaming and
Speaker 2: this in particular video that I have sent to the
Speaker 2: team here very freaky. I think we should just watch
Speaker 2: it here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, and we can try and describe it
Speaker 3: a little bit for listeners.
Speaker 9: If you know how I am, then why the fuck
Speaker 9: are you telling me to open the window, and why
Speaker 9: the hell are you pointing a gun a fucking taser
Speaker 9: on me? If you know who I am? Okay, And
Speaker 9: you guys follow everyone everyone, you guys talk people all
Speaker 9: the time.
Speaker 2: A very large man wearing a mask, a hoodie and
Speaker 2: a baseball cap. No, obviously identification, not in a police uniform,
Speaker 2: not in like a order patrol uniform. It's just a
Speaker 2: guy who basically forces your car to stop, jumps out,
Speaker 2: and points a gun at you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he draws from appendix Carrie Like.
Speaker 4: It's not many states this would be justification to start
Speaker 4: shooting at this man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. There I think reasons why they're not doing
Speaker 2: this in state through there's high levels of gun ownership
Speaker 2: because they're afraid of that happening. Because it's not clear
Speaker 2: at all as the guy's a cop. No, it's a
Speaker 2: masked man has forced your car to a halt and
Speaker 2: is pulling a gun on you and is approaching you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that happens in another country and you
Speaker 3: assume you're being robbed, like right, you know, another part
Speaker 3: of the world. Like Also, it's notable that the vehicle
Speaker 3: doesn't have lights.
Speaker 2: It's not a cop car.
Speaker 3: No, it's not even a US made car like sometimes
Speaker 3: cops will use like non marked cars. They're normally US
Speaker 3: manufactured right for or US companies for Chevy, et cetera.
Speaker 3: This is a Kia. Everything apart from a lanyard hanging
Speaker 3: around the guy's neck which is not identifiable as a badge.
Speaker 3: Certainly not at this speed. Certainly not while he's drawing
Speaker 3: a gun. From appendix carry points to this being someone
Speaker 3: trying to rob.
Speaker 2: Or kill you. Very scary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say I think the fact that they're
Speaker 4: being forced to do this in some sense is a
Speaker 4: sign that this is really working.
Speaker 2: It's pissing them off. The fact that people are keeping
Speaker 2: tabs on where I yeah, yeah, it's working. And like
Speaker 2: I keep saying, this is like they're the ones who
Speaker 2: are being forced to operate, is if they're working in
Speaker 2: a police state, Like they're the ones who are having
Speaker 2: to deal with surveillance. They're the ones who are having
Speaker 2: to deal with the fact that, like, if they stay
Speaker 2: in a place too long, they'll be beast mobilizations and
Speaker 2: people will just like drop.
Speaker 4: The hammer on them. It's a really interesting look at
Speaker 4: what happens when you try to do this police state
Speaker 4: shit in a society where everyone fucking hates you, which
Speaker 4: is that all you really have is speed and terror totally.
Speaker 4: And so you know they're doing this shit right, like
Speaker 4: they're just trying to terrorize people into letting them do
Speaker 4: their police state stuff. But if people keep doing it right,
Speaker 4: It seriously is like denting their effectiveness a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen multiple videos like this. Eventually the ICE
Speaker 2: agents will call over some like state trooper or like
Speaker 2: a DHS guy who does not work or ICE directly
Speaker 2: to diffuse this situation. I've seen most of these situations
Speaker 2: get eventually diffused, but it's something to I think draw
Speaker 2: attention to right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if this keeps happening, it's likely to
Speaker 3: end in violence somewhere, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the same thing when they're kidnapping
Speaker 2: college students without any clear identification. Yeah, notably doing that
Speaker 2: in like New England states where people do not conceal
Speaker 2: carry firearms like regularly, as like a regular thing that
Speaker 2: like people do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, firearms are not the only means of
Speaker 3: violence available to people like that. Lady seemed very calm
Speaker 3: and commendably so, but like she could have stepped on
Speaker 3: the gas pedal of her car and.
Speaker 2: Totally absolutely right. Yeah, And obviously this person knows that
Speaker 2: the guy is ICED, because that's why she's following him.
Speaker 2: But if ICE just starts getting paranoid about cars behind them,
Speaker 2: if they think someone's following them, they can pull us
Speaker 2: on someone who's not doing ICE watch. Yeah, they could
Speaker 2: just pull us on anyone who they are like suspicious of,
Speaker 2: And I think that's when really dangerous situations could start
Speaker 2: breaking out between these like unmarked ICE agents and just
Speaker 2: regular citizens.
Speaker 4: And I think the odds of one of them just
Speaker 4: snapping and starting shooting is like not zero, because that's
Speaker 4: who these people are, and as they're increasingly put under stress.
Speaker 2: They're being trained to you always be afraid of danger,
Speaker 2: like more so than even just like regular like cop stuff.
Speaker 2: Like they're talking about how like violence against ICE is
Speaker 2: up eight hundred percent, where the violence is like someone's
Speaker 2: head meets an ICE agent's fist, right, It's that sort
Speaker 2: of violence where it's like you're assaulting a cop by
Speaker 2: like partially resisting arrest in some way. But they are
Speaker 2: spreading those stats as if this is a real epidemic
Speaker 2: of violence against ICE agents right now. Another story I
Speaker 2: like to talk about is this deportation hoax story that
Speaker 2: I've seen going around social media. Seen it going around
Speaker 2: like our slash green card on Reddit, like TikTok, and
Speaker 2: even of like local news stories across the country where
Speaker 2: ICE secretly deports an eighty two year old torture survivor
Speaker 2: and US legal resident for forty years. This man goes
Speaker 2: to an immigration office to replace a green card, and
Speaker 2: instead of that happening, Ice handcuffs him, detains him, denies
Speaker 2: access to a lawyer, and deports him to Guatemala, a
Speaker 2: country where he is not from, with no official paperwork,
Speaker 2: and then is put into the hospital in Guatemala. This
Speaker 2: story got super viral the past week, and from what
Speaker 2: we can tell, this is not a real story. There
Speaker 2: was no immigration appointment in Philadelphia at the time of
Speaker 2: this spiral story. Guatemala says that the man is not
Speaker 2: in the country. The hospital he was alleged to be at.
Speaker 2: Doctors have said there's no man matching this description in
Speaker 2: the story, and the photos attached to this vital story
Speaker 2: of the man are not of this guy. The photos
Speaker 2: are of a guy who died three years ago. This is,
Speaker 2: from what we can tell, an entirely fabricated story that
Speaker 2: one local news outlet bought and then spread around From there.
Speaker 2: It's not even clear if, like the family members that
Speaker 2: were the original source of this even exist. It's not
Speaker 2: clear if this man even exists. So this is from
Speaker 2: what we can tell right now, not real, not real
Speaker 2: at all, And this is something to keep him in mind.
Speaker 2: Just because a story is like scary and just because
Speaker 2: it's going by does not necessarily mean it's true. And
Speaker 2: we don't need to be sharing fake stories of ICE
Speaker 2: deporting people or even going after green card holders, because
Speaker 2: this is actually happening. This is happening in the country
Speaker 2: right now, and ICE is defying judicial orders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's talk about one of those incidents, right
Speaker 3: In this case, it's a man called Lionel Navaret Hernandez
Speaker 3: who filed a habeas suit in the Central District of
Speaker 3: California right against the Department of Home noun Security. Let's
Speaker 3: get some background on his case first, and we can
Speaker 3: talk about this specific kind of not justifying court orders,
Speaker 3: but also the United States Constitution. So he fled to
Speaker 3: the United States in two thousand and nine after being
Speaker 3: pursued by the police and falsely accused in El Salvador
Speaker 3: and beaten by police several times. I'm going to quote
Speaker 3: from the court documents pretty extensively throughout this so quote,
Speaker 3: including in one distance, beaten until he vomited blood, resulting
Speaker 3: in a cut on his head that scarred and a
Speaker 3: fractured finger end quote. In twenty twenty two, he was
Speaker 3: part of a targeted enforcement operation and he was issued
Speaker 3: and notice to appear, and then he bonded out right,
Speaker 3: so he posted like bail and he was out of
Speaker 3: detention right. In January twenty twenty four, he filed for asylum.
Speaker 3: He didn't get asylum dus a timing of filing. He
Speaker 3: also asked for withholding of removal. I didn't get that
Speaker 3: because he quote failed to show that his proposed quote
Speaker 3: particular social groups are cognizable or that his past harm
Speaker 3: was because of a protected ground right. So regular listeners
Speaker 3: will know that there are certain grounds on which one
Speaker 3: can obtain asylum and what has to be part of
Speaker 3: these certain categories to obtain asylum. What he did get
Speaker 3: was protection of removal under a Convention against torture because
Speaker 3: again quoting it is more likely than not that their
Speaker 3: respondent will be detained and tortured in El Salvador. El
Speaker 3: Salvador had put out an inter poll red alert for
Speaker 3: him for some reason, they deeply wanted him back. Doesn't
Speaker 3: seem to be any evidence that this person committed crimes.
Speaker 3: I appealed this this protection for removal right, and then
Speaker 3: the same day they appealed it, they detained him when
Speaker 3: he appeared at his Intensive Supervision Appearance Program check in.
Speaker 3: So ice AP right is one of these things where
Speaker 3: instead of being detained, you appear at ICE office and
Speaker 3: check in every now and again, right, as opposed to
Speaker 3: than just locking you up for the entire time. His
Speaker 3: partner then testified to the quote that quote. Lionel called
Speaker 3: me and told me that he was arrested. He says,
Speaker 3: Immigration officers went up to him and his IAP check
Speaker 3: in and told him he was under arrest. Lionel said
Speaker 3: he asked the officers why and informed them he had
Speaker 3: an order from the judge. The officer said something like
Speaker 3: judges don't Judges' orders don't matter only the president.
Speaker 2: Judges orders don't matter only the president. This is a
Speaker 2: rogue law enforcement agency in service of a rogue president.
Speaker 2: Like yeah.
Speaker 3: Lionel then told me that he told the officers he
Speaker 3: had an attorney. I'm still quoting from his partner here,
Speaker 3: But the officer said that doesn't matter either.
Speaker 2: He has an order forbidding his deportation, and they're telling
Speaker 2: him that doesn't matter because the president wants you out
Speaker 2: of the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and that is what they have done, right,
Speaker 3: that was the entire rendition of people to l Salbadol
Speaker 3: was an end run around that, right, attempting.
Speaker 2: To They're just like saying this to people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's what they're doing. That's Warren. That's what
Speaker 3: they said to the court.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: We sneaked him out before you could stop it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So just to update people on this case, he called
Speaker 3: from jail in Santa Anna and said he was in
Speaker 3: a small space and he heard people being taken to
Speaker 3: San Diego or Texas. Then he had to hang up.
Speaker 3: He was moved around significantly, right all around, including into Texas.
Speaker 3: When he showed up on the detainee locator, the judge
Speaker 3: in the case issued attentive restraining order to prevent them
Speaker 3: from removing him. In detention, he was only allowed to
Speaker 3: make phone calls for three minutes, and in one of
Speaker 3: those calls, he told his partner that detention officers, I
Speaker 3: guess were telling detainees they were going to be removed
Speaker 3: whether or not they signed deportation papers. In his case,
Speaker 3: the court has issued an injunction to prevent his removal
Speaker 3: or his read attention to soly shout out to this
Speaker 3: Central District of California. I guess this is wild, right,
Speaker 3: this is dictatorial regime. You have no rights other than
Speaker 3: those impression decides to give to you. It's the subtext here.
Speaker 4: It's explicitly the fascist thing of like there are people
Speaker 4: who exist outside legal order in order to maintain it,
Speaker 4: and that person is the fear. Like that that's just
Speaker 4: what this is, right, Like, it's really explicit.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what people expect on them, and
Speaker 3: you know, the expects addressed like they're in the sound
Speaker 3: of music, you know, like this is what fascism looks like.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about some more immigration cases.
Speaker 2: What other immigration updates do we have, James.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well none of them are great, to be honest.
Speaker 2: No, the immigration segment has been a bit of a
Speaker 2: bummer in the past. Let me check my watch six months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard on the soul and new do as
Speaker 3: a district court has struck down the state's law forbidding
Speaker 3: private immigration detention. This also happened in California, right, they
Speaker 3: said it was stay overy, so this was an issue.
Speaker 3: It's federal detentions, seid of Feds get to decide basically right.
Speaker 3: So New Jersey had tried to stop Geo Group cour
Speaker 3: Civic these massive detention operations from operating private immigration detention
Speaker 3: in the state, couldn't get down on through the court.
Speaker 3: Probably the bigger story this week is that the federal
Speaker 3: government has signed a contract for a huge five thousand
Speaker 3: bed tent camp facility for migration detention of Fort Bliss,
Speaker 3: So according to reporting in Bloomberg. Bloomberg has reported that
Speaker 3: the contract totals one point twenty six billion. The only
Speaker 3: contract I was able to actually find was a Department
Speaker 3: of Defense contract for two hundred and thirty one million,
Speaker 3: eight hundred and seventy eight thousand, two hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: nine dollars to be precise. What is not being reported
Speaker 3: on this? And I don't understand why other than nobody
Speaker 3: reported on immigration during the Biden admitt Apparently people are
Speaker 3: looking for like analogues. What would this be like? Well,
Speaker 3: the Department of Defense operated a tent facility at Fort
Speaker 3: Bliss under Operation Allies Welcome for Afghan people arriving in
Speaker 3: the United States. So after the bungled withdrawal from Afghanistan, right,
Speaker 3: I interviewed one of them. I was freelancing for the
Speaker 3: nation at that time, and there'll be a link in
Speaker 3: the show notes. But the afghanswa Houals did a place
Speaker 3: called Donia Anna Range, which is in New Mexico. So
Speaker 3: Bliss Spans Texas in New Mexico. Right, This new complex
Speaker 3: ne has to be in a different place because it
Speaker 3: will be quote unquote soft sided, which just needs tents. Right,
Speaker 3: But this one is accessible from El Paso streets and
Speaker 3: it's accessible without entering the Fort Bliss main gate, right,
Speaker 3: so people don't have to have on base clearance. The
Speaker 3: Afghan site had ninety eight tenths, which each held about
Speaker 3: one hundred people. This one will house five thousand people,
Speaker 3: so we can assume about five hundred tenths. Right. This
Speaker 3: contract for one point two six billion, Operation Allies Welcome
Speaker 3: was larger, right. It did other things. For instance, all
Speaker 3: those people got their COVID vaccinations because they hadn't gotten
Speaker 3: them when they were in Afghanistan. A lot of other
Speaker 3: vaccinations too. That that spent three billion just in fiscal
Speaker 3: year twenty twenty two. To give people a sense of
Speaker 3: the scale of these things, right, So one point two
Speaker 3: six billion, it's not at all out of the question.
Speaker 3: And in fact brings me on to my next point,
Speaker 3: which is that it may be a bit low given
Speaker 3: this company has no experience with this kind of operation.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 3: One of the questions we asked back in November when
Speaker 3: we did are like what could happen under Trump? Is
Speaker 3: how will they stand up these facilities? Who has the
Speaker 3: experience to do it well? This company does not have
Speaker 3: the experience to do it right. They've never done anything
Speaker 3: like this before. They have some logistic compact with DoD,
Speaker 3: but they do not have the capacity. At least they
Speaker 3: have not shown that they have the capacity to do
Speaker 3: anything on this scale. The DoD operation used a lot
Speaker 3: of contractors as well as defact dining facility for food.
Speaker 3: And I just want to quote some of the people
Speaker 3: I called a bull, who I talked to, who was
Speaker 3: in that detention facility. Quote for the past month, nighttime
Speaker 3: was the most horrible time for us because every day
Speaker 3: it got colder. We didn't have enough warm clothes or
Speaker 3: any thick blankets to fight against the cold. They gave
Speaker 3: us a blanket that was so thin we could see
Speaker 3: through it. These are people who in some cases fought
Speaker 3: alongside United States soldiers, right, Like it's not going to
Speaker 3: be better for migrants. Ball also told me the food
Speaker 3: wasn't great. He said, quote it's not cooked enough or
Speaker 3: it's burned. He did say that he appreciated the quote.
Speaker 3: The guy doing the cooking was always asking for feedback.
Speaker 3: They tried to cook Afghan food, I guess, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he appreciated the effort to cook food.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they ain't going to try that now
Speaker 3: this time, right, but not, for instance, provide halal food,
Speaker 3: which was a consideration.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming this time they're going to be getting the
Speaker 4: fucking boldy food from Florida.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the United States has a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of food should have gone out to many of the
Speaker 3: starving people around the world, right, but yeah, has been
Speaker 3: left to mold and warehouses. So yeah, they might be
Speaker 3: eating the high energy biscuits or the humrats. Talking of food,
Speaker 3: Human Rights Watch has reached a report detailing human rights
Speaker 3: abuses at detention centers. The report focuses on Chrome North
Speaker 3: Service Processing Center OKA Chrome, the Broward Transitional Center, and
Speaker 3: the Federal Detention Center. All of these are in Florida.
Speaker 2: Are those first two like privately owned better than being
Speaker 2: leased or like licensed out to the government.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're run by contractors for the government for immigration
Speaker 3: detentionent We've talked about Chrome before. It was one that
Speaker 3: was already ever crowded, had two deaths.
Speaker 2: It's also the name that I would pick for like
Speaker 2: an evil agency, who gets the product prison. Yeah, it's one.
Speaker 2: It's Chrome with a K with a K too, which
Speaker 2: makes it more evil.
Speaker 3: So the incidence detailed in this report pretty pretty bad.
Speaker 3: They include people being forced to eat like dogs with
Speaker 3: a hands tied behind their back. They include people being
Speaker 3: punished and put in solitary confinement for seeking medical and
Speaker 3: mental health help and having their handsipped. I hadn't been
Speaker 3: forced to lay down on wet floors, as it's very
Speaker 3: common in ice facilities. The air conditioning was turned up
Speaker 3: very high to make it uncomfortably cold.
Speaker 2: Just like in like the Florida bomb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is the case in every immigration
Speaker 3: detention facility that I've heard about. Right, the Spanish word
Speaker 3: is like it translates to ice box is the word
Speaker 3: that people used to refer That's the colloquial term for
Speaker 3: these facilities.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: The FDC staff also used stun grenades and physical force
Speaker 3: against detainees protesting denial of food, water, medical attention. The
Speaker 3: report details people being detained in crowdedge cells with no
Speaker 3: beds or bedding, and denied essential medications. Read a couple
Speaker 3: of quotes from people interviewed in a report here. Quote
Speaker 3: you could not fall asleep because it was so cold.
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to experience hypothermia. One said
Speaker 3: it's like psychological abuse. You feel like your life is over,
Speaker 3: said another. All right, we're back.
Speaker 2: This past week, the World Food Program released a new
Speaker 2: report on food scarcity in Gaza enforced through the Israeli military,
Speaker 2: and also discussed a quote unquote deadly incident this past
Speaker 2: Sunday in which dozens of civilians were killed and injured
Speaker 2: while waiting to access food as a World Food Program
Speaker 2: convoy was entering northern Gaza. The Director of Emergency Preparedness
Speaker 2: and Response, Ross Smith said, quote yesterday's incident is one
Speaker 2: of the greatest tragedies we've seen for our operations in
Speaker 2: Gaza and elsewhere while we're trying to work, and it's
Speaker 2: completely avoidable, and it's an absolute tragedy unquote. Currently, food
Speaker 2: safety experts warned that one in five people in Gaza
Speaker 2: face enforced starvation. I'm going to quote from the un here. Quote,
Speaker 2: Mister Smith said, World Food Program assessments show that a
Speaker 2: quarter of the population is facing famine like conditions. Almost
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand women and children are suffering from severe
Speaker 2: acute malnutrition and need treatment as soon as possible. Pointing
Speaker 2: to reports, he said, quote people are dying from a
Speaker 2: lack of humanitarian assistance every day, and we are seeing
Speaker 2: this escalate day by day, saying that food and humanitarian
Speaker 2: assistance are quote the only solution at the moment for
Speaker 2: Gaza unquote.
Speaker 4: And it's worth emphasizing with this that like, the food
Speaker 4: is there, it is literally just sitting warehouses, like they
Speaker 4: can bring it in the moment the blockade lifts, but
Speaker 4: the Israelis don't want.
Speaker 2: To bombing people bringing food into Gaza at this point.
Speaker 4: Then they keep on doing this thing where they'll be like, oh,
Speaker 4: we have food, and then they shoot everyone who shows food.
Speaker 2: So this is something that World Food Program has been saying. Quote.
Speaker 2: We also need to have no armed actors near food
Speaker 2: and distribution points, near our convoys, and near the movement
Speaker 2: of those convoys from one place to another.
Speaker 3: This is basic humanitarian a ship. This is like one
Speaker 3: oh one fucking operating humanitarian resources in a conflict zone stuff.
Speaker 3: This isn't new stuff, right. This is asking the IDEF
Speaker 3: to do what you would expect any reasonable actor to
Speaker 3: do in one of these situations. Obviously the IDEF not
Speaker 3: a particularly reasonable actor.
Speaker 2: Rain speaking of things they don't like, Oh.
Speaker 3: Garrison, you cannot compare the work of Joe Strama to
Speaker 3: the ideas unre Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: All right, welcome to tariff talk thing where I had
Speaker 4: no role in the prior transition to it. So we've
Speaker 4: gotten a few tariff deals over the week. We got
Speaker 4: one with the Philippines where Trump has negotiated a deal
Speaker 4: for a nineteen percent tariff on all goods and the
Speaker 4: Philippines coming to the US. There's also been a deal
Speaker 4: established with Japan where we're out of terif rate of
Speaker 4: fifteen percent. This one also has and there's been a
Speaker 4: few of these deals that have things like this where
Speaker 4: Japan also had to agree to invest five hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty billion dollars in the US. It's really unclear how
Speaker 4: that's going to work, Like it might just be loans.
Speaker 4: That's the part I don't even know if it's going
Speaker 4: to happen, because it's so staggeringly fuzzy and unclear as
Speaker 4: to what any of that means. Trump has been talking
Speaker 4: about how there's going to be like a ninety ten
Speaker 4: profit split where Americans take the ninety percent of the
Speaker 4: profits in Japan takes on tempers very weird, very weird.
Speaker 4: This is also look, it's worth noting that the last
Speaker 4: time we deliberately decapped Japan's export manufacturing economy dreating the
Speaker 4: Plaza Accords, it kicked off an economic crisis that Japan
Speaker 4: has literally never recovered from. Like people used to talk
Speaker 4: about the Japanese economy in the way that we talk
Speaker 4: about the Chinese economy now is like the emerging, rising,
Speaker 4: unstoppable force that was going to like become the world's
Speaker 4: greatest manufacturing power, and we don't do that anymore, partially
Speaker 4: because of like Japan hit like structural overcapacity in the market.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah. Listen to me on every
Speaker 4: other episode where I talk about the Plaza Accords and
Speaker 4: structural global manufacturing over capacity. But again, the second thing
Speaker 4: is we also made their manufacturing less competitive and it
Speaker 4: destroyed the entire global economy, Like it's the reason two
Speaker 4: thousand and eight happened is because we did that and
Speaker 4: we're doing it again. Like twenty eight percent of the
Speaker 4: Japanese economy is based on like car exports, So that's great,
Speaker 4: that's fun. There's also been reports that there's a deal
Speaker 4: with the EU coming. I don't know who knows. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to say what's in it because we don't
Speaker 4: know if this is going to happen. There's that one
Speaker 4: in particular. There's a lot of things that can torpedo it,
Speaker 4: but it's not great. Also, these terrorists, by the way,
Speaker 4: are replacing the ones that are scheduled to go into
Speaker 4: effect on August first. Trump is still promising to put
Speaker 4: out tariff things for one hundred and twenty countries or
Speaker 4: something like that. I don't know the nub of the
Speaker 4: number is exactly right now. It keeps changing, keeps also
Speaker 4: not writing those letters, so who knows.
Speaker 2: Silky Doki.
Speaker 4: Yeah, great way to have terrorist policy, say is that
Speaker 4: Trump says something on truth social and then doesn't do it.
Speaker 2: And sometimes he does, yes, sometimes he does.
Speaker 3: It's good. It's a good way to do things.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 4: So speaking of things, being done badly. We need to
Speaker 4: talk about NPR and PBS because the Republicans just cut
Speaker 4: one point one billion dollars from public broadcasting, which is like, all.
Speaker 2: Again, we were reported on what Elmo said last week.
Speaker 2: It's not a surprise that PBS is getting cut after this.
Speaker 4: I language, hold on, We have not on this show
Speaker 4: talked about the fact that PBS like sold Sesame Street.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's true.
Speaker 4: This is so ghoulish, like it does Jenny Wieley. Sesame
Speaker 4: Street was like one of the few really truly great
Speaker 4: triumphs of American state media. Like it was specifically designed
Speaker 4: to teach kids in underprivileged backgrounds how to read.
Speaker 2: Now it's on like like HBO, Max or Netflix are
Speaker 2: still available on public podcasting.
Speaker 3: Some of it's in a public domain, Like it's probably
Speaker 3: on YouTube because it's been out for SOTI.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like the problem is, like, this is Jenni Wineley,
Speaker 4: one of the greatest public goods the US ever created,
Speaker 4: and it was fucking looted and privatized and and now
Speaker 4: as all of its funding is being cut, Trump has
Speaker 4: basically been pissed off at public podcasting for ages. Actually, hilariously,
Speaker 4: a lot of this One of the big origin points
Speaker 4: of this was that they had friend of the show
Speaker 4: Vicky Osterweil on NPR to do an interview about her
Speaker 4: book in Defensive Looting and Republican has been mad ever since.
Speaker 2: Like a few months ago, Trump signing Executive Order to
Speaker 2: quote unquote end taxpayer subsidation of biased media, which specifically
Speaker 2: sought to defund MPR and PBS through ending contributions through
Speaker 2: the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, in the order saying quote,
Speaker 2: government funding of news media in this environment is not
Speaker 2: only outdated and unnecessary, but corrosive to the appearance of
Speaker 2: journalistic independence. And instead they replaced the role of PBS
Speaker 2: and NPR with One American News, the super far right
Speaker 2: mode in sending like American News overseas. Instead of rooting
Speaker 2: things like the Voice of America, they are explicitly entering
Speaker 2: a partnership with OA N which is of the.
Speaker 3: Certain stuff like Voice of American News and the Cuban
Speaker 3: Broadcasting Office right like where they which are explicitly like
Speaker 3: these are things the US government goes to to advance
Speaker 3: its a gender abroad like this isn't.
Speaker 4: And now the way that they're doing that is with
Speaker 4: one America, which is really funny because that probably does
Speaker 4: make it less effective. I do want to circle back
Speaker 4: a little bit to what this is going to do
Speaker 4: to MPR and PPS, because like the main central NPR.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it's a disaster for even like the
Speaker 4: national MPR, but like this is going to just annihilate
Speaker 4: any semblages of like local news.
Speaker 2: Right, like yeah, because they rely on public broadcasting and
Speaker 2: NPR massively around the country.
Speaker 4: Especially in rural areas. Like one of the Reportsoy was
Speaker 4: ridic was talking about how like Texas was expecting to
Speaker 4: lose half of their like NPR stations and like rural areas.
Speaker 4: This is just like the apocalypse for any kind of
Speaker 4: like rural local news. And you know, obviously, like this
Speaker 4: is a part of trust attempt to just consolidate all
Speaker 4: of the American media under his control through a combination
Speaker 4: of destroying this kind of stuff and then doing lawsuits.
Speaker 4: And also and this is another thing we need to
Speaker 4: talk about, is like here'shon you talked about this Guidiance
Speaker 4: merger and how that you know, is being used as
Speaker 4: leverage to like just destroy the gut CBS, loot it
Speaker 4: and turn it into just like a pro Trumpet.
Speaker 2: Outlet, right, like allegedly entering in a cooperation deal with
Speaker 2: the Free Press from Barry Weiss exert editorial control over
Speaker 2: CBS News, which we'll just take the outlet destroy sixty minutes,
Speaker 2: one of the most respectable, longstanding television news programs in
Speaker 2: the history of the country.
Speaker 4: I think there's a very good argument that this is
Speaker 4: what Bezos is doing to the Washington Post. Right, is
Speaker 4: better for these people that news outlets don't exist, or
Speaker 4: like seven people read the like unhandebar right things than
Speaker 4: it is for like anything to actually exist. This is
Speaker 4: all again like media consolidation of a diictorial regime being
Speaker 4: accelerated by the fact that all of these things are
Speaker 4: owned either by corporations or individual billionaires. So that's bad.
Speaker 4: Speaking of bad, the EPA's Office of Research has just
Speaker 4: been eliminated. This is a unbelievable catastrophe because the EPA's
Speaker 4: Office of Research does all of the basic research about
Speaker 4: like is this chemical dangerous? What does this chemical do
Speaker 4: to the environment, what does like what do these pollution
Speaker 4: levels do? This is the part of the EPA that
Speaker 4: undergirds like basically all in our mental regulations and all
Speaker 4: regulations on things like chemical protection. Right, it comes out
Speaker 4: of this Office of Research. That's where the standards are set,
Speaker 4: that's where the science has done that is used in
Speaker 4: basically like all like regulatory policy that the EPA does
Speaker 4: that other agencies used to, and they're just destroying it.
Speaker 4: Trump has said that they're going to move some of
Speaker 4: it to other offices, but they've already been massively downsizing
Speaker 4: the EPA. Every day we edge closer and closer to
Speaker 4: w're just like, this is the country with no environmental regulations.
Speaker 4: We're seeing it more and more. At some point on
Speaker 4: the show, we're going to cover all of the unhinged
Speaker 4: shit that's been happening with the power stations and like
Speaker 4: generators set up to power AI stuff. I also want
Speaker 4: to specifically mention one of the things that the New
Speaker 4: York Times reported on, which is that the people who
Speaker 4: are running the destruction of the EPA have been trying
Speaker 4: to get rid of the integrated risk information system, which,
Speaker 4: if you've ever dealt with dangerous chemicals, the integrated risk
Speaker 4: information system is the system that tells you what the
Speaker 4: effects of it are. Every chemical has one right, and
Speaker 4: these fucking people like there's a guy who's now in
Speaker 4: the American First Policy Institute, which, like Trump, pulls a
Speaker 4: lot of shit from who is literally talking about just
Speaker 4: getting rid of it because quote, IRIS evaluations often rely
Speaker 4: on worst case scenario hazard assumptions that fail to consider
Speaker 4: real world exposure.
Speaker 3: That's kind of the situation with these things, isn't you
Speaker 3: don't want to look at the worst case scenario.
Speaker 4: Yes, And when you don't look at the worst case scenario.
Speaker 4: One of the other agencies that's been like just destroyed
Speaker 4: is the US Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, which
Speaker 4: is very famous for doing a bunch of very very
Speaker 4: good YouTube videos about like plant disasters and like how
Speaker 4: safety violations and safety laps has caused like fucking plants
Speaker 4: to explode. And that's just like gone now. And this is,
Speaker 4: you know, the world that these people want you to
Speaker 4: live in is a world in which you don't know
Speaker 4: what all of these corporations are pumping into the environment
Speaker 4: around you. And even if you can figure out what
Speaker 4: the chemicals they're pumping, like into the roundwater that you're
Speaker 4: drinking is, you're not supposed to know what it does.
Speaker 4: This is just like the basic infrastructure for how all
Speaker 4: American like chemical operations work, and they're just trying to
Speaker 4: destroy it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Great, speaking of chemicals, Yeah, speaking of chemicals and the
Speaker 4: government trying to destroy it. The government of Puerto Rico
Speaker 4: has passed a bill that bans gender affirming care of
Speaker 4: all kinds for anyone under the age of twenty one,
Speaker 4: because twenty one is the.
Speaker 2: Age, the highest that we've seen.
Speaker 4: So what's happening here is twenty one is the age
Speaker 4: which become a legal adult in Puerto Rico, which is unhinged. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is the highest band we've seen. We've seen a
Speaker 4: couple of other places try to do it to nineteen.
Speaker 4: This also includes what's basically a high amendment for transcare,
Speaker 4: like all transcare of all ages that says that like
Speaker 4: state money cannot be used, so state insurance stuff like
Speaker 4: that in Puerto Rico cannot be used to pay for
Speaker 4: any gender affirming care at all, which is fucking hideous.
Speaker 4: This is basically the thing we were trying to stop
Speaker 4: with medicaid wherever we did stop medicaid the Lost Budget bill,
Speaker 4: but they've passed a local version of it. This bill
Speaker 4: promises this I think it's up to five years in
Speaker 4: prison and fifteen thousand dollars in fines for anyone who
Speaker 4: gives trans healthcare to anyone under the age of twenty one.
Speaker 2: So if you never plan to visit Puerto Rico, it's
Speaker 2: time to start mailing gender firm and care services to
Speaker 2: people in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 4: The fun part, too, is this law is worded so
Speaker 4: loosely that there is genuine concern that it could apply
Speaker 4: to Like if you are a parent and you try
Speaker 4: to get your kid gender firman care, this could apply
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 2: There's I would say, I think that aspect of it
Speaker 2: is still a little bit unclear. I don't want to
Speaker 2: inspire too much panic in that sense. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of it is directed at people who work in
Speaker 2: the medical industry. But still I think if you do
Speaker 2: not ever want to visit Puerto Rico and you want
Speaker 2: to help trans people.
Speaker 3: Because presumably like no ban on like the import of
Speaker 3: the products, right, I guess some product it themselves controlled.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in Chlade, they don't start doing that.
Speaker 2: But because famously there's never illegal drugs mailed in the
Speaker 2: United States, they can't stop us. Fell us. We're getting
Speaker 2: the HRT one way or another. But this sucks and
Speaker 2: it will force people to adapt and it's a really
Speaker 2: unfortunate to see. But I do believe in the ability
Speaker 2: which tries people to overcome the state's attacks against us.
Speaker 2: Before we close, there's actually one other piece of important
Speaker 2: news that we need to discuss. We're turning once again
Speaker 2: to the Stinky Musky segment because the Tesla Diner has
Speaker 2: finally opened. I know we've been waiting for this for
Speaker 2: a long time. It is open in La, right right, yeah,
Speaker 2: so James, you need to get up there and go
Speaker 2: to the Tesla Diner. They have cyber truck food containers,
Speaker 2: so that's cool.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 2: They have Tesla robots helping to serve food and drinks.
Speaker 2: It's what they're calling retro futurist style. I would never
Speaker 2: say that. And most importantly, if you want to spend
Speaker 2: twelve dollars, you can get yourself a single serving of
Speaker 2: epic bacon that's on the menu. It's called epic Bacon.
Speaker 4: Twelve dollars.
Speaker 2: Twelve dollars Epic bacon at the Tesla diaers twelve oh.
Speaker 4: They also opened it at four to twenty.
Speaker 3: I saw that they also have avocado toast, which is
Speaker 3: great for those of us who will never afford a home.
Speaker 2: I can't support the Tesla diners serving this lib cock
Speaker 2: avocado toes needs to be beef tallow fries.
Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately they did put buttermilk bread with avocado toast.
Speaker 3: So just so like vegan people can't eat there.
Speaker 2: I guess there you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I cannot go to the Testa diner.
Speaker 3: I don't have to return to Buffalo Wild Wings at
Speaker 3: two am like I did when I was up in
Speaker 3: La covering the protest a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: You know, four wild Wings open that late? Incredible.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you it was time.
Speaker 4: What other time are you going to be eating Buffalo
Speaker 4: wild wings?
Speaker 3: You lunch? They are like a fucking psycho in college.
Speaker 1: But it was a good time back in the.
Speaker 3: This is a great time. God, no one looked to
Speaker 3: be weird for wearing a fucking plate carrier with press stand.
Speaker 2: Buffalo that is a war zone. It's basically one step
Speaker 2: removed from like waffle house.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, which is in turn one step removed from Falujah.
Speaker 2: So, James, I thought that you wanted to plug.
Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, So we do have an email address.
Speaker 3: It's a encrypted email address. And you can send us
Speaker 3: emails there. It is cool Zone Tips at proton dot me.
Speaker 3: What's it going to include a fundraiser this week? We're
Speaker 3: trying to do one of these every week if there's
Speaker 3: someone in your community, like we're trying to focus on
Speaker 3: my fundraisers, people who are raising money for legal a
Speaker 3: people who need representation. I know immigration lawyers are either
Speaker 3: overworked or overpriced. It seems to be like like two
Speaker 3: brackets that they've gone into. Hit me up. You can
Speaker 3: send that to me at that email address and we'll
Speaker 3: try and include more of them. This week.
Speaker 2: We we are.
Speaker 3: Fundraising for Primrose and you can find her go fund
Speaker 3: me page at www dot GoFundMe dot com, slash f
Speaker 3: slash immigration hyphen lawyer hyphen for hyphen. Primos at Promos
Speaker 3: is out of detention right now, which is great, but
Speaker 3: I know she still has a lot of significant expenses
Speaker 3: and legal expenses coming up. So if you would like
Speaker 3: to donate, if you'd like to help, this is a
Speaker 3: concrete thing you can do to help someone.
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