WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #26

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<v Speaker 1>Colzon Media.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>newscast covering what is happening in the White House, the

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<v Speaker 2>crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm Garson

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<v Speaker 2>Davis today. I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie Lichterman. This episode, we are covering the week of

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<v Speaker 2>July sixteenth to July twenty three. It has been six

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<v Speaker 2>months since Trump has took office. How do we feel

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<v Speaker 2>about that, folks?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, there can't be three and a half four years

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<v Speaker 4>of this, Like there just can't, Like there will not

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<v Speaker 4>be a country left.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, six months feels like a lifetime and not like

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<v Speaker 5>it feels like no time has passed at all.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, sixpence of us doing this? She's wild? Was

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<v Speaker 3>that forty two months left? Am I correctly auditioning? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't you' mar hey is six months?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Math cast with doctor and Ames Out.

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<v Speaker 3>A doctor of modern European history. It does not involve

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<v Speaker 3>arithmet oh Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go straight to Epstein, which is also what Hillary

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<v Speaker 2>Clinton's black ops kill squad said after they broke into

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<v Speaker 2>the jail.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, Garrison, you are spreading disinformation. That is the one

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<v Speaker 4>group of people we can confirm did I kill Jeffrey Epstein?

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<v Speaker 5>Harrison Just because Robert's not here, does it mean you

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<v Speaker 5>have to go down to his level of humor?

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<v Speaker 2>I think yesterday or two days ago, we released Epstein

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<v Speaker 2>Update episode where we discussed the first Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 2>story where they released this type written note given to

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein on his fiftieth birthday from Trump, where he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>this fake dialogue conversation between him and Epstein saying, among

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<v Speaker 2>other things, we have certain things in common Jeffrey, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we do. Come to think of it, Enigma's never age.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you noticed that? As a matter of fact, it

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<v Speaker 2>was clear to me last time I saw you, pal

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<v Speaker 2>is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day

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<v Speaker 2>be another wonderful secret quote, which is who you could

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<v Speaker 2>have just wrote like a pedophile confession note and it

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<v Speaker 2>would be less incriminating than whatever creepy shit you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>with this. So if you want to listen to our

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<v Speaker 2>full update episode on that, just pop over to the

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<v Speaker 2>other episode after Executive Disorder is done. We do have

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<v Speaker 2>some other updates to add on because the Epstein thing

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<v Speaker 2>keeps being in the news despite the will of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>who definitely wants this not in the news. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>he is trying out a number of distraction techniques, including

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<v Speaker 2>releasing some files related to the death of Martin Luther King,

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<v Speaker 2>which when everyone's asking to release the files, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the files they were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, the family did not want that to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very dispectful and has stated that for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a very cheap way to run some distraction.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week, Pambondi sent a request to release the grand

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<v Speaker 2>jury files on the Epstein investigation, and this was just

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<v Speaker 2>a way to perform transparency because these types of files

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<v Speaker 2>usually do not get released, like this was most likely

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<v Speaker 2>going to get blocked by the judge, and they knew

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<v Speaker 2>that when they sent this request. This was just to

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<v Speaker 2>perform this like gesture of transparency, knowing that it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually lead to anything. And all of this stuff goes

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<v Speaker 2>against what Trump was saying, like a year ago. A

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<v Speaker 2>year ago on Fox News, Trump said that he would

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<v Speaker 2>release the files and then although he did kind of

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<v Speaker 2>catch himself and realize that that might not be in

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<v Speaker 2>his best interest, because he kind of corrected and said

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<v Speaker 2>that he would have to make sure there's not phony

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in there. Let's play the clip.

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<v Speaker 6>Would you declassify the nine to eleven files?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you declassified JFK.

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<v Speaker 4>Files, Yeah, which I did a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you declassify the Epstein files?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess I would. I think that less so because

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you don't know if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 7>affect people's lives of its phony stuff in there, because

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<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think I would.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that fucking mean? That whole world?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of interesting things in there. Notably,

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<v Speaker 2>when Fox first aired this, they only played the first

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<v Speaker 2>half of his answer where he said yeah, I would,

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<v Speaker 2>and did not air the part where we said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>actually maybe not because there's a lot of phony stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually the full clip went online, but at first they

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<v Speaker 2>released this shorter clip to make Trump look better, which

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of similarity to Trump's lawsuit against sixty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes in paramount, when they released two different clips of

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Haara's answering a question in like the same week

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<v Speaker 2>on two different shows, answer the same question, like two

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<v Speaker 2>halves of the answer. Trump said that this was done

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<v Speaker 2>explicitly to change the outcome of the election and sued

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<v Speaker 2>sixty Minutes for this. And because Paramount, the parent company

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<v Speaker 2>of CBS News, is trying to complete a merger with

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<v Speaker 2>sky Dance, which needs to be approved by the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 2>Paramount had started interfering with the affairs of sixty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>had just canceled the Colbert A Late show, possibly in

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<v Speaker 2>efforts to appease Trump, and just gave him this, this

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<v Speaker 2>massive bribe as a way to get out of the lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 2>So very similar situation where news companies are playing two

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<v Speaker 2>different things from the same answer. I think the one

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<v Speaker 2>that happened on Fox News is way more egregious than

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<v Speaker 2>the one sixty Minutes Dead. I think the sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>one makes sense, But that's just a whole tiny aside.

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<v Speaker 2>Releasing Epstein files is something that Trump has still been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. Last week, on Wednesday, July sixteenth, in an

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<v Speaker 2>Oval Office press conference, he was asked if he would

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<v Speaker 2>get Pambondi to try to release more documents. He answered

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<v Speaker 2>like this, will you ask a trade general Pambondi to

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<v Speaker 2>release more documents?

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<v Speaker 4>To finally put this controversy to that.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, whatever is credible, she can release. If a

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<v Speaker 7>document is credible, if the document's there that is credible,

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<v Speaker 7>she can release. I think it's I think it's good,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's just really it's just a subject. He's dead,

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<v Speaker 7>he's gone, and yeah, all it is is the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 7>Certain Republicans got duped by the Democrats and they're following

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<v Speaker 7>a Democrat playbooker.

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<v Speaker 2>So, after this, Pambondi sent a request to a judge

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<v Speaker 2>to unseal the Epstein Maxwell grand jury transcripts, and again

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<v Speaker 2>this is the move to feign transparency. Attorney Sarah Chrissoff,

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<v Speaker 2>assistant US attorney in Manhattan from two s eight, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, told the AP that this move was a

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote distraction. Quote the president is trying to present

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<v Speaker 2>himself as if he's doing something here and really it's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing unquote. She estimates that these transcripts could be as

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<v Speaker 2>little as sixty pages anyway, because it is standard practice

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<v Speaker 2>for the Southern District of New York to put very

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<v Speaker 2>little information in these transcripts compared to some other states,

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<v Speaker 2>and as expected earlier this week, the judge denied this request,

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<v Speaker 2>which the Trump admin knew was going to happen because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't release grand jury transcripts. The whole point of

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<v Speaker 2>a grand jury is that it's secrets that she did this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so this was never going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I fear that's.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was a move to make it look like

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<v Speaker 2>they were having some level of transparency. Another tactic Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has done to distract from the Epstein story is directing

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<v Speaker 2>in Tulsa Gabbert to run this huge distraction campaign by

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the Obama treeson investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll play a clip here.

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<v Speaker 6>There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and

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<v Speaker 6>his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence

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<v Speaker 6>community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it

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<v Speaker 6>would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the

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<v Speaker 6>twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it

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<v Speaker 6>to the American people as though it were true.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>The report that we released today's shows in great detail

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<v Speaker 6>how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources,

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<v Speaker 6>They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.

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<v Speaker 6>They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence community standards and withheld

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<v Speaker 6>the truth from the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Very serious stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Just looks like a villain from the Orville.

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<v Speaker 2>What they're talking about is, yeah, there was legitimate investigations

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<v Speaker 2>into Russia's meddling in the twenty sixteen election. What they

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<v Speaker 2>were unable to prove is conclusive evidence that Trump colluded

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<v Speaker 2>with the Russians. But this meddling was real and was proven.

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<v Speaker 2>This is stuff that they found and Obama was president

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, and yeah, he's gonna know about the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're trying to turn that into this whole giant,

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<v Speaker 2>giant hoax regarding Obama trying to steal the twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>election again, an election that everyone knows Trump won. Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was president from twenty seventeen to early twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>something that some people have tried to forget. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to run like all of these distractions just

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<v Speaker 2>to keep people from talking about Epstein and this something

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump's really good at. All he needs to do

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<v Speaker 2>is keep his base from turning on him. And the

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<v Speaker 2>way he's gonna do that is make them angry at

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<v Speaker 2>other people. He has to find new targets to make

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<v Speaker 2>his base upset at and right now he's trying it

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<v Speaker 2>out with Obama. Right, He's done that with Biden for years,

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<v Speaker 2>He's done that with Clinton for years. Obama is the

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<v Speaker 2>new guy that he hasn't really targeted as much. So

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<v Speaker 2>now he's trying to get his supporters really mad at Obama.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the whole way that he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>hold onto their support and hold onto their power. Because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the Epstein stuff may be a little bit weird,

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<v Speaker 2>but did you see how Obama tried to steal the election?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is his whole strategy. And he laid the

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<v Speaker 2>strategy out at a press conference earlier this week where

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<v Speaker 2>he's seen like coaching Republicans to respond to questions about

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein by just talking about Obama and the Russian election

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<v Speaker 2>interference investigation, the quote unquote Russia hopes.

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<v Speaker 8>But remember this, Obama cheated on the election, and we

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<v Speaker 8>have it called hard blue, and it's getting even more

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<v Speaker 8>so because the stuff that's coming in is not even believable.

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<v Speaker 8>So and you should mention that every time they give

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<v Speaker 8>you a question that's not appropriate, just say, oh, by

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<v Speaker 8>the way, Obama cheated on the election. You'll watch the

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<v Speaker 8>camera turn off instantly.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the strategy he uses. Whenever he's asked

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<v Speaker 2>about something, he'll talk about the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax,

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<v Speaker 2>the Hunter, Biden laptop, things that aren't even real, things

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<v Speaker 2>that he's like successfully syoped the country into believing are

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<v Speaker 2>like real things. But whenever he's asked a question about Epstein,

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<v Speaker 2>you can immediately pivot to that and have that control

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation. And he's laying out the strategy here. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what I was talking about last week in d

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<v Speaker 2>about how Trump like dictates reality through speech, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to coach his fellow Republicans on how to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have to catch up on a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff because Trump's ties to Epstein have been known for

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<v Speaker 2>a long long time. I'm going to play a very

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<v Speaker 2>very gross clip from around the turn of the millennia

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<v Speaker 2>talking about eating eighteen models.

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<v Speaker 4>What did you do last night?

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<v Speaker 2>For fun?

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<v Speaker 7>I actually went to the Fashion Award show.

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<v Speaker 4>Models working on. But Donald, do you worry because you

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<v Speaker 4>have a daughter who's a model?

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<v Speaker 7>I do, and I have a deal with her. She's

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<v Speaker 7>just seventeen and she's doing great, Ivanka, and she made

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<v Speaker 7>me promise her swear to her that I would never

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<v Speaker 7>date a girl younger than her.

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<v Speaker 2>So why did you grow with Howard?

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<v Speaker 5>And she grows older?

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<v Speaker 7>Right, the field is getting very limited.

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<v Speaker 2>To deal now that she's seventeen. His dating field is

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<v Speaker 2>getting very limited. I wonder what he could mean by that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what that could be insinuating.

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<v Speaker 1>Really fucking girls.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. Yeah, this shit is actually deeply fucking stick Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's hideous.

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<v Speaker 4>And also like the fact that the Democrats didn't spend

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<v Speaker 4>the entire election just calling him a pedophile and running

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<v Speaker 4>ads that were just this man as a pedophile, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>This is stuff we've known for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is all like in the public domain decades

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<v Speaker 3>and decades.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from a Guardian article in twenty twenty. At

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<v Speaker 2>forty three years old, Donald Trump asked a seventeen year

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<v Speaker 2>old girl on a date. Trump asked her out for

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<v Speaker 2>dinner in the summer of nineteen eighty nine at an

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<v Speaker 2>industry soiree. She recalls Trump asking how old she was, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>I said seventeen, and he said that's just great, You're

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<v Speaker 2>not too old, not too young unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>Legally speaking, too young.

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<v Speaker 2>Outrageous, outrageous stuff. And we have some breaking news from

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<v Speaker 2>just a few hours ago. We're recording this. On Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>a second Wall Street Journal article has hit the Trump Towers.

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<v Speaker 4>A new article.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about the Justice Department officials reviewing Attorney General Pam

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<v Speaker 2>Bondi's quote unquote truckload of Jeffrey Epstein documents and discovering

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<v Speaker 2>that Donald Trump's name appears multiple times. According to senior

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<v Speaker 2>administration officials notified Trump about this in May, saying that

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<v Speaker 2>a few other high profile names are also in the documents,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the DOJ would not be releasing these documents

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<v Speaker 2>in order to quote unquote protect victims. As if you

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<v Speaker 2>can't censor victims' names or censored how sexual abast material.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just a complete cover up.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and by the way, in late breaking news, that's

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<v Speaker 4>sure to make everyone considerably more normal. Epstein's defense lawyer,

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<v Speaker 4>Roy Black, who's the guy who got him off from

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<v Speaker 4>like going to prison for a billion years in two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and seven, just died like today, So okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>Hillary Clinton kills squad, it's really really working working over

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<v Speaker 4>time this point, Like Donald Trump Kills Squad questionable, absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely need to be retiring the Hillary Clinton Kills squad

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<v Speaker 4>jokes because like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very likely that Epstein did kill himself.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not think you need to believe in that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like conspiratorial thinking to also believe that there's

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<v Speaker 2>documented evidence of Trump dating teenagers and wanting to date

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<v Speaker 2>majors for the past like forty years, and that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone should be aware of. Like, that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theory, and you don't need to believe in conspiratorial

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<v Speaker 2>thinking to think that that's very likely.

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<v Speaker 4>That said, I do want to establish there is at

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<v Speaker 4>least one person on the podcast who thinks that he

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<v Speaker 4>might not have I don't know, but every single time

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<v Speaker 4>they do more weird shit about it, I'm like, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>is this conspiracy brain thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, editing the video didn't make anyone more

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<v Speaker 3>certain that he killed himself.

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<v Speaker 2>So as we enter the more than six month marker

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<v Speaker 2>in the Trump administration, I think we should check in

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<v Speaker 2>on howthy youths feel about Donald Trump. Famously, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of reporting about how gen Z is, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>swinging more conservative, how gen Z helped get Trump elected,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you look at some February approval numbers, it

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<v Speaker 2>does seem that between ages of eighteen and twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>So too old. Using the aforementioned criteria.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump did have a plus ten points approval, with fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent approving only forty five percent disapproving of his performance. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>come July, things have changed dramatically in the youth bracket

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen to twenty nine, with only twenty eight percent approval.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a negative forty four points and seventy two percent disapproval,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a net fifty four point negative swing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's genuinely astonishing, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge jump.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's try to jump, Garrison, it's a fall.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you're right, You're right, it is going down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, it's a plummet.

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<v Speaker 2>This is according to a CBS News polls again, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do think me is right. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's going to care about this very much because this

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<v Speaker 2>does seem to be higher than his preferred dating bracket,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think he's looking for the approval of

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<v Speaker 2>people between eighteen to twenty nine. But this still might

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<v Speaker 2>affect him culturally, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Talking of things that have gone down badly, Garrison,

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<v Speaker 3>it is now a detigation to pivot to advertisements.

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<v Speaker 2>Advertisements are doing just fine from what I hear, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are back. Let's do an immigration segment for the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the show, and I guess I'll first start

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<v Speaker 2>with Ice Watch. So the past few weeks, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>multiple videos of ICE pulling over cars and sometimes not

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<v Speaker 2>even like pulling over, just like blocking cars and narrow streets,

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<v Speaker 2>like stopping them forcefully and then drawing guns as they

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the car. By the time they are

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<v Speaker 2>like door open, feed on the ground, gun already drawn.

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<v Speaker 2>And they then descend on activists doing ICE watch, basically

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<v Speaker 2>people who follow ICE agents around to alert their community

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<v Speaker 2>of where ICE currently is. Usually they're live streaming and

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<v Speaker 2>this in particular video that I have sent to the

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<v Speaker 2>team here very freaky. I think we should just watch

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<v Speaker 2>it here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, definitely, and we can try and describe it

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit for listeners.

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<v Speaker 9>If you know how I am, then why the fuck

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<v Speaker 9>are you telling me to open the window, and why

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<v Speaker 9>the hell are you pointing a gun a fucking taser

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<v Speaker 9>on me? If you know who I am? Okay, And

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<v Speaker 9>you guys follow everyone everyone, you guys talk people all

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<v Speaker 9>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>A very large man wearing a mask, a hoodie and

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball cap. No, obviously identification, not in a police uniform,

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<v Speaker 2>not in like a order patrol uniform. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who basically forces your car to stop, jumps out,

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<v Speaker 2>and points a gun at you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he draws from appendix Carrie Like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not many states this would be justification to start

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<v Speaker 4>shooting at this man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. There I think reasons why they're not doing

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<v Speaker 2>this in state through there's high levels of gun ownership

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<v Speaker 2>because they're afraid of that happening. Because it's not clear

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<v Speaker 2>at all as the guy's a cop. No, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>masked man has forced your car to a halt and

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<v Speaker 2>is pulling a gun on you and is approaching you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that happens in another country and you

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<v Speaker 3>assume you're being robbed, like right, you know, another part

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<v Speaker 3>of the world. Like Also, it's notable that the vehicle

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have lights.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a cop car.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not even a US made car like sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>cops will use like non marked cars. They're normally US

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<v Speaker 3>manufactured right for or US companies for Chevy, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a Kia. Everything apart from a lanyard hanging

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<v Speaker 3>around the guy's neck which is not identifiable as a badge.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly not at this speed. Certainly not while he's drawing

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<v Speaker 3>a gun. From appendix carry points to this being someone

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<v Speaker 3>trying to rob.

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<v Speaker 2>Or kill you. Very scary.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I will say I think the fact that they're

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<v Speaker 4>being forced to do this in some sense is a

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<v Speaker 4>sign that this is really working.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pissing them off. The fact that people are keeping

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<v Speaker 2>tabs on where I yeah, yeah, it's working. And like

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<v Speaker 2>I keep saying, this is like they're the ones who

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<v Speaker 2>are being forced to operate, is if they're working in

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<v Speaker 2>a police state, Like they're the ones who are having

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with surveillance. They're the ones who are having

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with the fact that, like, if they stay

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<v Speaker 2>in a place too long, they'll be beast mobilizations and

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<v Speaker 2>people will just like drop.

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<v Speaker 4>The hammer on them. It's a really interesting look at

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<v Speaker 4>what happens when you try to do this police state

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<v Speaker 4>shit in a society where everyone fucking hates you, which

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<v Speaker 4>is that all you really have is speed and terror totally.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you know they're doing this shit right, like

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<v Speaker 4>they're just trying to terrorize people into letting them do

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<v Speaker 4>their police state stuff. But if people keep doing it right,

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<v Speaker 4>It seriously is like denting their effectiveness a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've seen multiple videos like this. Eventually the ICE

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<v Speaker 2>agents will call over some like state trooper or like

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<v Speaker 2>a DHS guy who does not work or ICE directly

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<v Speaker 2>to diffuse this situation. I've seen most of these situations

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<v Speaker 2>get eventually diffused, but it's something to I think draw

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<v Speaker 2>attention to right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, if this keeps happening, it's likely to

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<v Speaker 3>end in violence somewhere, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is the same thing when they're kidnapping

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<v Speaker 2>college students without any clear identification. Yeah, notably doing that

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<v Speaker 2>in like New England states where people do not conceal

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<v Speaker 2>carry firearms like regularly, as like a regular thing that

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<v Speaker 2>like people do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, firearms are not the only means of

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<v Speaker 3>violence available to people like that. Lady seemed very calm

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<v Speaker 3>and commendably so, but like she could have stepped on

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<v Speaker 3>the gas pedal of her car and.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally absolutely right. Yeah, And obviously this person knows that

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<v Speaker 2>the guy is ICED, because that's why she's following him.

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<v Speaker 2>But if ICE just starts getting paranoid about cars behind them,

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<v Speaker 2>if they think someone's following them, they can pull us

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<v Speaker 2>on someone who's not doing ICE watch. Yeah, they could

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<v Speaker 2>just pull us on anyone who they are like suspicious of,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's when really dangerous situations could start

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<v Speaker 2>breaking out between these like unmarked ICE agents and just

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<v Speaker 2>regular citizens.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the odds of one of them just

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<v Speaker 4>snapping and starting shooting is like not zero, because that's

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<v Speaker 4>who these people are, and as they're increasingly put under stress.

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<v Speaker 2>They're being trained to you always be afraid of danger,

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<v Speaker 2>like more so than even just like regular like cop stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're talking about how like violence against ICE is

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<v Speaker 2>up eight hundred percent, where the violence is like someone's

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<v Speaker 2>head meets an ICE agent's fist, right, It's that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of violence where it's like you're assaulting a cop by

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<v Speaker 2>like partially resisting arrest in some way. But they are

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<v Speaker 2>spreading those stats as if this is a real epidemic

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<v Speaker 2>of violence against ICE agents right now. Another story I

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<v Speaker 2>like to talk about is this deportation hoax story that

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen going around social media. Seen it going around

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<v Speaker 2>like our slash green card on Reddit, like TikTok, and

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<v Speaker 2>even of like local news stories across the country where

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<v Speaker 2>ICE secretly deports an eighty two year old torture survivor

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<v Speaker 2>and US legal resident for forty years. This man goes

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<v Speaker 2>to an immigration office to replace a green card, and

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<v Speaker 2>instead of that happening, Ice handcuffs him, detains him, denies

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<v Speaker 2>access to a lawyer, and deports him to Guatemala, a

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<v Speaker 2>country where he is not from, with no official paperwork,

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<v Speaker 2>and then is put into the hospital in Guatemala. This

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<v Speaker 2>story got super viral the past week, and from what

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<v Speaker 2>we can tell, this is not a real story. There

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<v Speaker 2>was no immigration appointment in Philadelphia at the time of

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<v Speaker 2>this spiral story. Guatemala says that the man is not

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<v Speaker 2>in the country. The hospital he was alleged to be at.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctors have said there's no man matching this description in

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<v Speaker 2>the story, and the photos attached to this vital story

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<v Speaker 2>of the man are not of this guy. The photos

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<v Speaker 2>are of a guy who died three years ago. This is,

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<v Speaker 2>from what we can tell, an entirely fabricated story that

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<v Speaker 2>one local news outlet bought and then spread around From there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even clear if, like the family members that

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<v Speaker 2>were the original source of this even exist. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>clear if this man even exists. So this is from

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<v Speaker 2>what we can tell right now, not real, not real

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<v Speaker 2>at all, And this is something to keep him in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because a story is like scary and just because

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<v Speaker 2>it's going by does not necessarily mean it's true. And

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to be sharing fake stories of ICE

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<v Speaker 2>deporting people or even going after green card holders, because

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<v Speaker 2>this is actually happening. This is happening in the country

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and ICE is defying judicial orders.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so let's talk about one of those incidents, right

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<v Speaker 3>In this case, it's a man called Lionel Navaret Hernandez

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<v Speaker 3>who filed a habeas suit in the Central District of

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<v Speaker 3>California right against the Department of Home noun Security. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>get some background on his case first, and we can

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this specific kind of not justifying court orders,

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<v Speaker 3>but also the United States Constitution. So he fled to

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<v Speaker 3>the United States in two thousand and nine after being

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<v Speaker 3>pursued by the police and falsely accused in El Salvador

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<v Speaker 3>and beaten by police several times. I'm going to quote

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 3>from the court documents pretty extensively throughout this so quote,

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 3>including in one distance, beaten until he vomited blood, resulting

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 3>in a cut on his head that scarred and a

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<v Speaker 3>fractured finger end quote. In twenty twenty two, he was

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<v Speaker 3>part of a targeted enforcement operation and he was issued

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 3>and notice to appear, and then he bonded out right,

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<v Speaker 3>so he posted like bail and he was out of

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 3>detention right. In January twenty twenty four, he filed for asylum.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't get asylum dus a timing of filing. He

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<v Speaker 3>also asked for withholding of removal. I didn't get that

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<v Speaker 3>because he quote failed to show that his proposed quote

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 3>particular social groups are cognizable or that his past harm

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.360
<v Speaker 3>was because of a protected ground right. So regular listeners

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 3>will know that there are certain grounds on which one

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 3>can obtain asylum and what has to be part of

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 3>these certain categories to obtain asylum. What he did get

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 3>was protection of removal under a Convention against torture because

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<v Speaker 3>again quoting it is more likely than not that their

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 3>respondent will be detained and tortured in El Salvador. El

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Salvador had put out an inter poll red alert for

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 3>him for some reason, they deeply wanted him back. Doesn't

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 3>seem to be any evidence that this person committed crimes.

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 3>I appealed this this protection for removal right, and then

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.360
<v Speaker 3>the same day they appealed it, they detained him when

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 3>he appeared at his Intensive Supervision Appearance Program check in.

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 3>So ice AP right is one of these things where

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 3>instead of being detained, you appear at ICE office and

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 3>check in every now and again, right, as opposed to

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 3>than just locking you up for the entire time. His

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 3>partner then testified to the quote that quote. Lionel called

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 3>me and told me that he was arrested. He says,

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Immigration officers went up to him and his IAP check

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 3>in and told him he was under arrest. Lionel said

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 3>he asked the officers why and informed them he had

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 3>an order from the judge. The officer said something like

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 3>judges don't Judges' orders don't matter only the president.

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Judges orders don't matter only the president. This is a

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 2>rogue law enforcement agency in service of a rogue president.

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Lionel then told me that he told the officers he

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 3>had an attorney. I'm still quoting from his partner here,

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 3>But the officer said that doesn't matter either.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 2>He has an order forbidding his deportation, and they're telling

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 2>him that doesn't matter because the president wants you out

0:25:58.840 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 2>of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, and that is what they have done, right,

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 3>that was the entire rendition of people to l Salbadol

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 3>was an end run around that, right, attempting.

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<v Speaker 2>To They're just like saying this to people.

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because that's what they're doing. That's Warren. That's what

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 3>they said to the court.

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 3>We sneaked him out before you could stop it.

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 3>So just to update people on this case, he called

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 3>from jail in Santa Anna and said he was in

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 3>a small space and he heard people being taken to

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 3>San Diego or Texas. Then he had to hang up.

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 3>He was moved around significantly, right all around, including into Texas.

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 3>When he showed up on the detainee locator, the judge

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 3>in the case issued attentive restraining order to prevent them

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 3>from removing him. In detention, he was only allowed to

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 3>make phone calls for three minutes, and in one of

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 3>those calls, he told his partner that detention officers, I

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 3>guess were telling detainees they were going to be removed

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.919
<v Speaker 3>whether or not they signed deportation papers. In his case,

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 3>the court has issued an injunction to prevent his removal

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 3>or his read attention to soly shout out to this

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Central District of California. I guess this is wild, right,

0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 3>this is dictatorial regime. You have no rights other than

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 3>those impression decides to give to you. It's the subtext here.

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 4>It's explicitly the fascist thing of like there are people

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 4>who exist outside legal order in order to maintain it,

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 4>and that person is the fear. Like that that's just

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 4>what this is, right, Like, it's really explicit.

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know what people expect on them, and

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, the expects addressed like they're in the sound

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 3>of music, you know, like this is what fascism looks like.

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about some more immigration cases.

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<v Speaker 2>What other immigration updates do we have, James.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well none of them are great, to be honest.

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 2>No, the immigration segment has been a bit of a

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 2>bummer in the past. Let me check my watch six months.

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's hard on the soul and new do as

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 3>a district court has struck down the state's law forbidding

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 3>private immigration detention. This also happened in California, right, they

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 3>said it was stay overy, so this was an issue.

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 3>It's federal detentions, seid of Feds get to decide basically right.

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 3>So New Jersey had tried to stop Geo Group cour

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Civic these massive detention operations from operating private immigration detention

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 3>in the state, couldn't get down on through the court.

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Probably the bigger story this week is that the federal

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>government has signed a contract for a huge five thousand

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 3>bed tent camp facility for migration detention of Fort Bliss,

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 3>So according to reporting in Bloomberg. Bloomberg has reported that

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 3>the contract totals one point twenty six billion. The only

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 3>contract I was able to actually find was a Department

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 3>of Defense contract for two hundred and thirty one million,

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>eight hundred and seventy eight thousand, two hundred and twenty

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 3>nine dollars to be precise. What is not being reported

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 3>on this? And I don't understand why other than nobody

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 3>reported on immigration during the Biden admitt Apparently people are

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 3>looking for like analogues. What would this be like? Well,

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 3>the Department of Defense operated a tent facility at Fort

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Bliss under Operation Allies Welcome for Afghan people arriving in

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 3>the United States. So after the bungled withdrawal from Afghanistan, right,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I interviewed one of them. I was freelancing for the

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 3>nation at that time, and there'll be a link in

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 3>the show notes. But the afghanswa Houals did a place

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 3>called Donia Anna Range, which is in New Mexico. So

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Bliss Spans Texas in New Mexico. Right, This new complex

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 3>ne has to be in a different place because it

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>will be quote unquote soft sided, which just needs tents. Right,

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 3>But this one is accessible from El Paso streets and

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 3>it's accessible without entering the Fort Bliss main gate, right,

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 3>so people don't have to have on base clearance. The

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Afghan site had ninety eight tenths, which each held about

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 3>one hundred people. This one will house five thousand people,

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 3>so we can assume about five hundred tenths. Right. This

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 3>contract for one point two six billion, Operation Allies Welcome

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 3>was larger, right. It did other things. For instance, all

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 3>those people got their COVID vaccinations because they hadn't gotten

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 3>them when they were in Afghanistan. A lot of other

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 3>vaccinations too. That that spent three billion just in fiscal

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 3>year twenty twenty two. To give people a sense of

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.479
<v Speaker 3>the scale of these things, right, So one point two

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 3>six billion, it's not at all out of the question.

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>And in fact brings me on to my next point,

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 3>which is that it may be a bit low given

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 3>this company has no experience with this kind of operation.

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 7>Right.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 3>One of the questions we asked back in November when

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 3>we did are like what could happen under Trump? Is

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 3>how will they stand up these facilities? Who has the

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 3>experience to do it well? This company does not have

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 3>the experience to do it right. They've never done anything

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 3>like this before. They have some logistic compact with DoD,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 3>but they do not have the capacity. At least they

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 3>have not shown that they have the capacity to do

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 3>anything on this scale. The DoD operation used a lot

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 3>of contractors as well as defact dining facility for food.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 3>And I just want to quote some of the people

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I called a bull, who I talked to, who was

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>in that detention facility. Quote for the past month, nighttime

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 3>was the most horrible time for us because every day

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 3>it got colder. We didn't have enough warm clothes or

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 3>any thick blankets to fight against the cold. They gave

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>us a blanket that was so thin we could see

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 3>through it. These are people who in some cases fought

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>alongside United States soldiers, right, Like it's not going to

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 3>be better for migrants. Ball also told me the food

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 3>wasn't great. He said, quote it's not cooked enough or

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 3>it's burned. He did say that he appreciated the quote.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>The guy doing the cooking was always asking for feedback.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 3>They tried to cook Afghan food, I guess, and yeah, yeah,

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 3>he appreciated the effort to cook food.

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they ain't going to try that now

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 3>this time, right, but not, for instance, provide halal food,

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>which was a consideration.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm assuming this time they're going to be getting the

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 4>fucking boldy food from Florida.

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, the United States has a whole bunch

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 3>of food should have gone out to many of the

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 3>starving people around the world, right, but yeah, has been

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 3>left to mold and warehouses. So yeah, they might be

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 3>eating the high energy biscuits or the humrats. Talking of food,

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Human Rights Watch has reached a report detailing human rights

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 3>abuses at detention centers. The report focuses on Chrome North

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Service Processing Center OKA Chrome, the Broward Transitional Center, and

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 3>the Federal Detention Center. All of these are in Florida.

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Are those first two like privately owned better than being

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>leased or like licensed out to the government.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they're run by contractors for the government for immigration

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>detentionent We've talked about Chrome before. It was one that

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 3>was already ever crowded, had two deaths.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>It's also the name that I would pick for like

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>an evil agency, who gets the product prison. Yeah, it's one.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>It's Chrome with a K with a K too, which

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 2>makes it more evil.

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 3>So the incidence detailed in this report pretty pretty bad.

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 3>They include people being forced to eat like dogs with

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 3>a hands tied behind their back. They include people being

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 3>punished and put in solitary confinement for seeking medical and

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>mental health help and having their handsipped. I hadn't been

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 3>forced to lay down on wet floors, as it's very

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.239
<v Speaker 3>common in ice facilities. The air conditioning was turned up

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 3>very high to make it uncomfortably cold.

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Just like in like the Florida bomb.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is this is the case in every immigration

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 3>detention facility that I've heard about. Right, the Spanish word

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 3>is like it translates to ice box is the word

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 3>that people used to refer That's the colloquial term for

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 3>these facilities.

0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>The FDC staff also used stun grenades and physical force

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>against detainees protesting denial of food, water, medical attention. The

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>report details people being detained in crowdedge cells with no

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 3>beds or bedding, and denied essential medications. Read a couple

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 3>of quotes from people interviewed in a report here. Quote

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 3>you could not fall asleep because it was so cold.

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I thought I was going to experience hypothermia. One said

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like psychological abuse. You feel like your life is over,

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 3>said another. All right, we're back.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 2>This past week, the World Food Program released a new

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>report on food scarcity in Gaza enforced through the Israeli military,

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and also discussed a quote unquote deadly incident this past

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Sunday in which dozens of civilians were killed and injured

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>while waiting to access food as a World Food Program

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>convoy was entering northern Gaza. The Director of Emergency Preparedness

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 2>and Response, Ross Smith said, quote yesterday's incident is one

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of the greatest tragedies we've seen for our operations in

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Gaza and elsewhere while we're trying to work, and it's

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>completely avoidable, and it's an absolute tragedy unquote. Currently, food

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 2>safety experts warned that one in five people in Gaza

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>face enforced starvation. I'm going to quote from the un here. Quote,

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Mister Smith said, World Food Program assessments show that a

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>quarter of the population is facing famine like conditions. Almost

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand women and children are suffering from severe

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>acute malnutrition and need treatment as soon as possible. Pointing

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 2>to reports, he said, quote people are dying from a

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 2>lack of humanitarian assistance every day, and we are seeing

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>this escalate day by day, saying that food and humanitarian

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>assistance are quote the only solution at the moment for

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Gaza unquote.

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 4>And it's worth emphasizing with this that like, the food

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 4>is there, it is literally just sitting warehouses, like they

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 4>can bring it in the moment the blockade lifts, but

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 4>the Israelis don't want.

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 2>To bombing people bringing food into Gaza at this point.

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 4>Then they keep on doing this thing where they'll be like, oh,

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 4>we have food, and then they shoot everyone who shows food.

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 2>So this is something that World Food Program has been saying. Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>We also need to have no armed actors near food

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>and distribution points, near our convoys, and near the movement

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>of those convoys from one place to another.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 3>This is basic humanitarian a ship. This is like one

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 3>oh one fucking operating humanitarian resources in a conflict zone stuff.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 3>This isn't new stuff, right. This is asking the IDEF

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 3>to do what you would expect any reasonable actor to

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 3>do in one of these situations. Obviously the IDEF not

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 3>a particularly reasonable actor.

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Rain speaking of things they don't like, Oh.

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Garrison, you cannot compare the work of Joe Strama to

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 3>the ideas unre Jesus Christ.

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.919
<v Speaker 1>Like Jesus Christ.

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 4>All right, welcome to tariff talk thing where I had

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 4>no role in the prior transition to it. So we've

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 4>gotten a few tariff deals over the week. We got

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 4>one with the Philippines where Trump has negotiated a deal

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 4>for a nineteen percent tariff on all goods and the

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 4>Philippines coming to the US. There's also been a deal

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 4>established with Japan where we're out of terif rate of

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 4>fifteen percent. This one also has and there's been a

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 4>few of these deals that have things like this where

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Japan also had to agree to invest five hundred and

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 4>fifty billion dollars in the US. It's really unclear how

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 4>that's going to work, Like it might just be loans.

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 4>That's the part I don't even know if it's going

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 4>to happen, because it's so staggeringly fuzzy and unclear as

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 4>to what any of that means. Trump has been talking

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 4>about how there's going to be like a ninety ten

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 4>profit split where Americans take the ninety percent of the

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 4>profits in Japan takes on tempers very weird, very weird.

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 4>This is also look, it's worth noting that the last

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 4>time we deliberately decapped Japan's export manufacturing economy dreating the

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 4>Plaza Accords, it kicked off an economic crisis that Japan

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 4>has literally never recovered from. Like people used to talk

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 4>about the Japanese economy in the way that we talk

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 4>about the Chinese economy now is like the emerging, rising,

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 4>unstoppable force that was going to like become the world's

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 4>greatest manufacturing power, and we don't do that anymore, partially

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 4>because of like Japan hit like structural overcapacity in the market.

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah blah blah. Listen to me on every

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 4>other episode where I talk about the Plaza Accords and

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 4>structural global manufacturing over capacity. But again, the second thing

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 4>is we also made their manufacturing less competitive and it

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 4>destroyed the entire global economy, Like it's the reason two

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 4>thousand and eight happened is because we did that and

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 4>we're doing it again. Like twenty eight percent of the

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 4>Japanese economy is based on like car exports, So that's great,

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 4>that's fun. There's also been reports that there's a deal

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 4>with the EU coming. I don't know who knows. I'm

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 4>not going to say what's in it because we don't

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 4>know if this is going to happen. There's that one

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 4>in particular. There's a lot of things that can torpedo it,

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 4>but it's not great. Also, these terrorists, by the way,

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 4>are replacing the ones that are scheduled to go into

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 4>effect on August first. Trump is still promising to put

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 4>out tariff things for one hundred and twenty countries or

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 4>something like that. I don't know the nub of the

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 4>number is exactly right now. It keeps changing, keeps also

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 4>not writing those letters, so who knows.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Silky Doki.

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, great way to have terrorist policy, say is that

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Trump says something on truth social and then doesn't do it.

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes he does, yes, sometimes he does.

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 3>It's good. It's a good way to do things.

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 4>So speaking of things, being done badly. We need to

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 4>talk about NPR and PBS because the Republicans just cut

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 4>one point one billion dollars from public broadcasting, which is like, all.

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Again, we were reported on what Elmo said last week.

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 2>It's not a surprise that PBS is getting cut after this.

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:03.320
<v Speaker 4>I language, hold on, We have not on this show

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 4>talked about the fact that PBS like sold Sesame Street.

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's true.

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 4>This is so ghoulish, like it does Jenny Wieley. Sesame

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 4>Street was like one of the few really truly great

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 4>triumphs of American state media. Like it was specifically designed

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 4>to teach kids in underprivileged backgrounds how to read.

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Now it's on like like HBO, Max or Netflix are

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 2>still available on public podcasting.

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Some of it's in a public domain, Like it's probably

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube because it's been out for SOTI.

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but like the problem is, like, this is Jenni Wineley,

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 4>one of the greatest public goods the US ever created,

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 4>and it was fucking looted and privatized and and now

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 4>as all of its funding is being cut, Trump has

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 4>basically been pissed off at public podcasting for ages. Actually, hilariously,

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 4>a lot of this One of the big origin points

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 4>of this was that they had friend of the show

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 4>Vicky Osterweil on NPR to do an interview about her

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 4>book in Defensive Looting and Republican has been mad ever since.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Like a few months ago, Trump signing Executive Order to

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote end taxpayer subsidation of biased media, which specifically

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 2>sought to defund MPR and PBS through ending contributions through

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 2>the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, in the order saying quote,

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>government funding of news media in this environment is not

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 2>only outdated and unnecessary, but corrosive to the appearance of

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>journalistic independence. And instead they replaced the role of PBS

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 2>and NPR with One American News, the super far right

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 2>mode in sending like American News overseas. Instead of rooting

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 2>things like the Voice of America, they are explicitly entering

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 2>a partnership with OA N which is of the.

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Certain stuff like Voice of American News and the Cuban

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Broadcasting Office right like where they which are explicitly like

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 3>these are things the US government goes to to advance

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 3>its a gender abroad like this isn't.

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 4>And now the way that they're doing that is with

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 4>one America, which is really funny because that probably does

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 4>make it less effective. I do want to circle back

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 4>a little bit to what this is going to do

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 4>to MPR and PPS, because like the main central NPR.

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, obviously it's a disaster for even like the

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 4>national MPR, but like this is going to just annihilate

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 4>any semblages of like local news.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, like yeah, because they rely on public broadcasting and

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>NPR massively around the country.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 4>Especially in rural areas. Like one of the Reportsoy was

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 4>ridic was talking about how like Texas was expecting to

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 4>lose half of their like NPR stations and like rural areas.

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 4>This is just like the apocalypse for any kind of

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 4>like rural local news. And you know, obviously, like this

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 4>is a part of trust attempt to just consolidate all

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 4>of the American media under his control through a combination

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 4>of destroying this kind of stuff and then doing lawsuits.

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 4>And also and this is another thing we need to

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 4>talk about, is like here'shon you talked about this Guidiance

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 4>merger and how that you know, is being used as

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 4>leverage to like just destroy the gut CBS, loot it

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 4>and turn it into just like a pro Trumpet.

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Outlet, right, like allegedly entering in a cooperation deal with

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the Free Press from Barry Weiss exert editorial control over

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 2>CBS News, which we'll just take the outlet destroy sixty minutes,

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 2>one of the most respectable, longstanding television news programs in

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the history of the country.

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 4>I think there's a very good argument that this is

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 4>what Bezos is doing to the Washington Post. Right, is

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 4>better for these people that news outlets don't exist, or

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 4>like seven people read the like unhandebar right things than

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 4>it is for like anything to actually exist. This is

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 4>all again like media consolidation of a diictorial regime being

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 4>accelerated by the fact that all of these things are

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 4>owned either by corporations or individual billionaires. So that's bad.

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Speaking of bad, the EPA's Office of Research has just

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 4>been eliminated. This is a unbelievable catastrophe because the EPA's

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Office of Research does all of the basic research about

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 4>like is this chemical dangerous? What does this chemical do

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:55.760
<v Speaker 4>to the environment, what does like what do these pollution

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 4>levels do? This is the part of the EPA that

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.280
<v Speaker 4>undergirds like basically all in our mental regulations and all

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 4>regulations on things like chemical protection. Right, it comes out

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 4>of this Office of Research. That's where the standards are set,

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 4>that's where the science has done that is used in

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 4>basically like all like regulatory policy that the EPA does

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 4>that other agencies used to, and they're just destroying it.

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 4>Trump has said that they're going to move some of

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 4>it to other offices, but they've already been massively downsizing

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 4>the EPA. Every day we edge closer and closer to

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:27.879
<v Speaker 4>w're just like, this is the country with no environmental regulations.

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 4>We're seeing it more and more. At some point on

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.439
<v Speaker 4>the show, we're going to cover all of the unhinged

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 4>shit that's been happening with the power stations and like

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 4>generators set up to power AI stuff. I also want

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 4>to specifically mention one of the things that the New

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 4>York Times reported on, which is that the people who

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 4>are running the destruction of the EPA have been trying

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.879
<v Speaker 4>to get rid of the integrated risk information system, which,

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 4>if you've ever dealt with dangerous chemicals, the integrated risk

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 4>information system is the system that tells you what the

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 4>effects of it are. Every chemical has one right, and

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 4>these fucking people like there's a guy who's now in

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 4>the American First Policy Institute, which, like Trump, pulls a

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 4>lot of shit from who is literally talking about just

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:15.959
<v Speaker 4>getting rid of it because quote, IRIS evaluations often rely

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 4>on worst case scenario hazard assumptions that fail to consider

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 4>real world exposure.

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of the situation with these things, isn't you

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 3>don't want to look at the worst case scenario.

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And when you don't look at the worst case scenario.

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.359
<v Speaker 4>One of the other agencies that's been like just destroyed

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 4>is the US Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, which

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 4>is very famous for doing a bunch of very very

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 4>good YouTube videos about like plant disasters and like how

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 4>safety violations and safety laps has caused like fucking plants

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 4>to explode. And that's just like gone now. And this is,

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, the world that these people want you to

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 4>live in is a world in which you don't know

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 4>what all of these corporations are pumping into the environment

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 4>around you. And even if you can figure out what

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 4>the chemicals they're pumping, like into the roundwater that you're

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 4>drinking is, you're not supposed to know what it does.

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 4>This is just like the basic infrastructure for how all

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 4>American like chemical operations work, and they're just trying to

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 4>destroy it.

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 4>Great, speaking of chemicals, Yeah, speaking of chemicals and the

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 4>government trying to destroy it. The government of Puerto Rico

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:28.359
<v Speaker 4>has passed a bill that bans gender affirming care of

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 4>all kinds for anyone under the age of twenty one,

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:32.760
<v Speaker 4>because twenty one is the.

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Age, the highest that we've seen.

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 4>So what's happening here is twenty one is the age

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 4>which become a legal adult in Puerto Rico, which is unhinged. Yeah,

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 4>this is the highest band we've seen. We've seen a

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 4>couple of other places try to do it to nineteen.

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 4>This also includes what's basically a high amendment for transcare,

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 4>like all transcare of all ages that says that like

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.719
<v Speaker 4>state money cannot be used, so state insurance stuff like

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 4>that in Puerto Rico cannot be used to pay for

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 4>any gender affirming care at all, which is fucking hideous.

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 4>This is basically the thing we were trying to stop

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 4>with medicaid wherever we did stop medicaid the Lost Budget bill,

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.800
<v Speaker 4>but they've passed a local version of it. This bill

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 4>promises this I think it's up to five years in

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.760
<v Speaker 4>prison and fifteen thousand dollars in fines for anyone who

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 4>gives trans healthcare to anyone under the age of twenty one.

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 2>So if you never plan to visit Puerto Rico, it's

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.800
<v Speaker 2>time to start mailing gender firm and care services to

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 2>people in Puerto Rico.

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 4>The fun part, too, is this law is worded so

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 4>loosely that there is genuine concern that it could apply

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 4>to Like if you are a parent and you try

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 4>to get your kid gender firman care, this could apply

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 4>to you.

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 2>There's I would say, I think that aspect of it

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>is still a little bit unclear. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>inspire too much panic in that sense. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it is directed at people who work in

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<v Speaker 2>the medical industry. But still I think if you do

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<v Speaker 2>not ever want to visit Puerto Rico and you want

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<v Speaker 2>to help trans people.

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<v Speaker 3>Because presumably like no ban on like the import of

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<v Speaker 3>the products, right, I guess some product it themselves controlled.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean in Chlade, they don't start doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But because famously there's never illegal drugs mailed in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, they can't stop us. Fell us. We're getting

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<v Speaker 2>the HRT one way or another. But this sucks and

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<v Speaker 2>it will force people to adapt and it's a really

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunate to see. But I do believe in the ability

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<v Speaker 2>which tries people to overcome the state's attacks against us.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we close, there's actually one other piece of important

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<v Speaker 2>news that we need to discuss. We're turning once again

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<v Speaker 2>to the Stinky Musky segment because the Tesla Diner has

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<v Speaker 2>finally opened. I know we've been waiting for this for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. It is open in La, right right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so James, you need to get up there and go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Tesla Diner. They have cyber truck food containers,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>They have Tesla robots helping to serve food and drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what they're calling retro futurist style. I would never

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<v Speaker 2>say that. And most importantly, if you want to spend

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<v Speaker 2>twelve dollars, you can get yourself a single serving of

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<v Speaker 2>epic bacon that's on the menu. It's called epic Bacon.

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve dollars Epic bacon at the Tesla diaers twelve oh.

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<v Speaker 4>They also opened it at four to twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that they also have avocado toast, which is

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<v Speaker 3>great for those of us who will never afford a home.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't support the Tesla diners serving this lib cock

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<v Speaker 2>avocado toes needs to be beef tallow fries.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, unfortunately they did put buttermilk bread with avocado toast.

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<v Speaker 3>So just so like vegan people can't eat there.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again I cannot go to the Testa diner.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to return to Buffalo Wild Wings at

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<v Speaker 3>two am like I did when I was up in

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<v Speaker 3>La covering the protest a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, four wild Wings open that late? Incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you it was time.

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<v Speaker 4>What other time are you going to be eating Buffalo

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<v Speaker 4>wild wings?

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<v Speaker 3>You lunch? They are like a fucking psycho in college.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a good time back in the.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a great time. God, no one looked to

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<v Speaker 3>be weird for wearing a fucking plate carrier with press stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo that is a war zone. It's basically one step

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<v Speaker 2>removed from like waffle house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, which is in turn one step removed from Falujah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, James, I thought that you wanted to plug.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Okay, So we do have an email address.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a encrypted email address. And you can send us

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 3>emails there. It is cool Zone Tips at proton dot me.

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<v Speaker 3>What's it going to include a fundraiser this week? We're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to do one of these every week if there's

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<v Speaker 3>someone in your community, like we're trying to focus on

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 3>my fundraisers, people who are raising money for legal a

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<v Speaker 3>people who need representation. I know immigration lawyers are either

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<v Speaker 3>overworked or overpriced. It seems to be like like two

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<v Speaker 3>brackets that they've gone into. Hit me up. You can

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<v Speaker 3>send that to me at that email address and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>try and include more of them. This week.

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<v Speaker 2>We we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Fundraising for Primrose and you can find her go fund

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<v Speaker 3>me page at www dot GoFundMe dot com, slash f

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<v Speaker 3>slash immigration hyphen lawyer hyphen for hyphen. Primos at Promos

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<v Speaker 3>is out of detention right now, which is great, but

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<v Speaker 3>I know she still has a lot of significant expenses

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<v Speaker 3>and legal expenses coming up. So if you would like

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<v Speaker 3>to donate, if you'd like to help, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>concrete thing you can do to help someone.

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<v Speaker 2>We reported the news, We reported the news. It could happen.

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