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Speaker 1: Colzon Media.

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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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Speaker 2: newscast covering what is happening in the White House, the

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Speaker 2: crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm Garson

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Speaker 2: Davis today. I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and

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Speaker 2: Sophie Lichterman. This episode, we are covering the week of

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Speaker 2: July sixteenth to July twenty three. It has been six

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Speaker 2: months since Trump has took office. How do we feel

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Speaker 2: about that, folks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Wow, there can't be three and a half four years

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Speaker 4: of this, Like there just can't, Like there will not

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Speaker 4: be a country left.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, six months feels like a lifetime and not like

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Speaker 5: it feels like no time has passed at all.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, sixpence of us doing this? She's wild? Was

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Speaker 3: that forty two months left? Am I correctly auditioning? I

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Speaker 3: don't you' mar hey is six months?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Math cast with doctor and Ames Out.

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Speaker 3: A doctor of modern European history. It does not involve

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Speaker 3: arithmet oh Man.

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Speaker 2: Let's go straight to Epstein, which is also what Hillary

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Speaker 2: Clinton's black ops kill squad said after they broke into

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Speaker 2: the jail.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Garrison, you are spreading disinformation. That is the one

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Speaker 4: group of people we can confirm did I kill Jeffrey Epstein?

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Speaker 5: Harrison Just because Robert's not here, does it mean you

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Speaker 5: have to go down to his level of humor?

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Speaker 2: I think yesterday or two days ago, we released Epstein

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Speaker 2: Update episode where we discussed the first Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 2: story where they released this type written note given to

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Speaker 2: Epstein on his fiftieth birthday from Trump, where he wrote

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Speaker 2: this fake dialogue conversation between him and Epstein saying, among

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Speaker 2: other things, we have certain things in common Jeffrey, Yes,

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Speaker 2: we do. Come to think of it, Enigma's never age.

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Speaker 2: Have you noticed that? As a matter of fact, it

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Speaker 2: was clear to me last time I saw you, pal

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Speaker 2: is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day

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Speaker 2: be another wonderful secret quote, which is who you could

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Speaker 2: have just wrote like a pedophile confession note and it

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Speaker 2: would be less incriminating than whatever creepy shit you're doing

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Speaker 2: with this. So if you want to listen to our

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Speaker 2: full update episode on that, just pop over to the

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Speaker 2: other episode after Executive Disorder is done. We do have

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Speaker 2: some other updates to add on because the Epstein thing

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Speaker 2: keeps being in the news despite the will of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: who definitely wants this not in the news. In fact,

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Speaker 2: he is trying out a number of distraction techniques, including

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Speaker 2: releasing some files related to the death of Martin Luther King,

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Speaker 2: which when everyone's asking to release the files, that's not

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Speaker 2: the files they were talking about.

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Speaker 1: Also, the family did not want that to happen.

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Speaker 2: It's very dispectful and has stated that for a while.

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Speaker 2: This is a very cheap way to run some distraction.

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Speaker 2: Last week, Pambondi sent a request to release the grand

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Speaker 2: jury files on the Epstein investigation, and this was just

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Speaker 2: a way to perform transparency because these types of files

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Speaker 2: usually do not get released, like this was most likely

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Speaker 2: going to get blocked by the judge, and they knew

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Speaker 2: that when they sent this request. This was just to

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Speaker 2: actually lead to anything. And all of this stuff goes

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Speaker 2: against what Trump was saying, like a year ago. A

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Speaker 2: year ago on Fox News, Trump said that he would

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Speaker 2: release the files and then although he did kind of

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Speaker 2: that he would have to make sure there's not phony

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Speaker 2: stuff in there. Let's play the clip.

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Speaker 6: Would you declassify the nine to eleven files?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Would you declassified JFK.

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Speaker 4: Files, Yeah, which I did a lot of it.

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Speaker 3: Would you declassify the Epstein files?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would.

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Speaker 7: I guess I would. I think that less so because

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Speaker 7: you know, you don't know if you don't want to

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Speaker 7: affect people's lives of its phony stuff in there, because

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.

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Speaker 4: But I think I would.

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Speaker 1: What does that fucking mean? That whole world?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of interesting things in there. Notably,

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Speaker 2: when Fox first aired this, they only played the first

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Eventually the full clip went online, but at first they

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of similarity to Trump's lawsuit against sixty

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Speaker 2: minutes in paramount, when they released two different clips of

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Speaker 2: Kamala Haara's answering a question in like the same week

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Speaker 2: halves of the answer. Trump said that this was done

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Speaker 2: explicitly to change the outcome of the election and sued

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Speaker 2: sixty Minutes for this. And because Paramount, the parent company

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Speaker 2: sky Dance, which needs to be approved by the Trump administration,

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Speaker 2: Paramount had started interfering with the affairs of sixty minutes,

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Speaker 2: had just canceled the Colbert A Late show, possibly in

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Speaker 2: efforts to appease Trump, and just gave him this, this

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Speaker 2: So very similar situation where news companies are playing two

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Speaker 2: the one sixty Minutes Dead. I think the sixty minutes

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Speaker 2: one makes sense, But that's just a whole tiny aside.

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Speaker 2: Releasing Epstein files is something that Trump has still been

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Speaker 2: talking about. Last week, on Wednesday, July sixteenth, in an

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Speaker 2: Oval Office press conference, he was asked if he would

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Speaker 2: get Pambondi to try to release more documents. He answered

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Speaker 2: like this, will you ask a trade general Pambondi to

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Speaker 2: release more documents?

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Speaker 4: To finally put this controversy to that.

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Speaker 7: You know, whatever is credible, she can release. If a

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Speaker 7: document is credible, if the document's there that is credible,

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Speaker 7: she can release. I think it's I think it's good,

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Speaker 7: but it's just really it's just a subject. He's dead,

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Speaker 7: he's gone, and yeah, all it is is the Republicans.

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Speaker 7: Certain Republicans got duped by the Democrats and they're following

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Speaker 2: So, after this, Pambondi sent a request to a judge

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Speaker 2: to unseal the Epstein Maxwell grand jury transcripts, and again

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Speaker 2: this is the move to feign transparency. Attorney Sarah Chrissoff,

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Speaker 2: assistant US attorney in Manhattan from two s eight, twenty

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Speaker 2: nothing unquote. She estimates that these transcripts could be as

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Speaker 2: for the Southern District of New York to put very

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Speaker 2: and as expected earlier this week, the judge denied this request,

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Speaker 2: which the Trump admin knew was going to happen because

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Speaker 2: they don't release grand jury transcripts. The whole point of

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Speaker 2: a grand jury is that it's secrets that she did this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so this was never going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I fear that's.

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Speaker 2: But this was a move to make it look like

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Speaker 2: they were having some level of transparency. Another tactic Trump

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Speaker 2: has done to distract from the Epstein story is directing

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Speaker 2: talking about the Obama treeson investigation.

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Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll play a clip here.

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Speaker 6: There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and

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Speaker 6: his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence

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Speaker 6: community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it

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Speaker 6: would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the

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Speaker 6: twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it

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Speaker 6: to the American people as though it were true.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't.

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Speaker 6: The report that we released today's shows in great detail

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Speaker 6: how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources,

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Speaker 6: They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.

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Speaker 6: They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence community standards and withheld

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Speaker 2: Very serious stuff.

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Speaker 1: Just looks like a villain from the Orville.

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Speaker 2: What they're talking about is, yeah, there was legitimate investigations

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Speaker 2: into Russia's meddling in the twenty sixteen election. What they

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Speaker 2: were unable to prove is conclusive evidence that Trump colluded

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Speaker 2: with the Russians. But this meddling was real and was proven.

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Speaker 2: This is stuff that they found and Obama was president

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Speaker 2: at the time, and yeah, he's gonna know about the investigation.

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Speaker 2: So they're trying to turn that into this whole giant,

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Speaker 2: giant hoax regarding Obama trying to steal the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: election again, an election that everyone knows Trump won. Trump

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Speaker 2: something that some people have tried to forget. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: they're trying to run like all of these distractions just

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Speaker 2: to keep people from talking about Epstein and this something

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Speaker 2: that Trump's really good at. All he needs to do

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Speaker 2: way he's gonna do that is make them angry at

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Speaker 2: out with Obama. Right, He's done that with Biden for years,

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Speaker 2: And that is the whole way that he's trying to

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Speaker 2: hold onto their support and hold onto their power. Because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: some of the Epstein stuff may be a little bit weird,

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Speaker 2: but did you see how Obama tried to steal the election?

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Speaker 2: And this is his whole strategy. And he laid the

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Speaker 2: he's seen like coaching Republicans to respond to questions about

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Speaker 2: interference investigation, the quote unquote Russia hopes.

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Speaker 8: But remember this, Obama cheated on the election, and we

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Speaker 8: have it called hard blue, and it's getting even more

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Speaker 8: so because the stuff that's coming in is not even believable.

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Speaker 8: So and you should mention that every time they give

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Speaker 8: the way, Obama cheated on the election. You'll watch the

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Speaker 2: And this is the strategy he uses. Whenever he's asked

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Speaker 2: about something, he'll talk about the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax,

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Speaker 2: the Hunter, Biden laptop, things that aren't even real, things

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Speaker 2: that he's like successfully syoped the country into believing are

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Speaker 2: like real things. But whenever he's asked a question about Epstein,

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Speaker 2: you can immediately pivot to that and have that control

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Speaker 2: the conversation. And he's laying out the strategy here. This

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Speaker 2: is what I was talking about last week in d

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Speaker 2: about how Trump like dictates reality through speech, and he's

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Speaker 2: trying to coach his fellow Republicans on how to do it.

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Speaker 2: And they have to catch up on a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff because Trump's ties to Epstein have been known for

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Speaker 2: a long long time. I'm going to play a very

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Speaker 2: very gross clip from around the turn of the millennia

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Speaker 2: talking about eating eighteen models.

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Speaker 4: What did you do last night?

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Speaker 2: For fun?

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Speaker 7: I actually went to the Fashion Award show.

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Speaker 4: Models working on. But Donald, do you worry because you

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Speaker 4: have a daughter who's a model?

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Speaker 7: I do, and I have a deal with her. She's

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Speaker 7: just seventeen and she's doing great, Ivanka, and she made

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Speaker 2: are of a guy who died three years ago. This is,

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Speaker 2: from what we can tell, an entirely fabricated story that

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Speaker 2: one local news outlet bought and then spread around From there.

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Speaker 2: It's not even clear if, like the family members that

445
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Speaker 2: were the original source of this even exist. It's not

446
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Speaker 2: clear if this man even exists. So this is from

447
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Speaker 2: what we can tell right now, not real, not real

448
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Speaker 2: at all, And this is something to keep him in mind.

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Speaker 2: Just because a story is like scary and just because

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Speaker 2: it's going by does not necessarily mean it's true. And

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Speaker 2: we don't need to be sharing fake stories of ICE

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Speaker 2: deporting people or even going after green card holders, because

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Speaker 2: this is actually happening. This is happening in the country

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Speaker 2: right now, and ICE is defying judicial orders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's talk about one of those incidents, right

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Speaker 3: In this case, it's a man called Lionel Navaret Hernandez

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Speaker 3: who filed a habeas suit in the Central District of

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Speaker 3: California right against the Department of Home noun Security. Let's

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Speaker 3: get some background on his case first, and we can

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Speaker 3: talk about this specific kind of not justifying court orders,

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Speaker 3: but also the United States Constitution. So he fled to

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Speaker 3: the United States in two thousand and nine after being

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Speaker 3: pursued by the police and falsely accused in El Salvador

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Speaker 3: and beaten by police several times. I'm going to quote

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Speaker 3: from the court documents pretty extensively throughout this so quote,

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Speaker 3: including in one distance, beaten until he vomited blood, resulting

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Speaker 3: in a cut on his head that scarred and a

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Speaker 3: fractured finger end quote. In twenty twenty two, he was

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Speaker 3: part of a targeted enforcement operation and he was issued

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Speaker 3: and notice to appear, and then he bonded out right,

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Speaker 3: so he posted like bail and he was out of

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Speaker 3: detention right. In January twenty twenty four, he filed for asylum.

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Speaker 3: He didn't get asylum dus a timing of filing. He

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Speaker 3: also asked for withholding of removal. I didn't get that

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Speaker 3: because he quote failed to show that his proposed quote

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Speaker 3: particular social groups are cognizable or that his past harm

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Speaker 3: was because of a protected ground right. So regular listeners

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Speaker 3: will know that there are certain grounds on which one

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Speaker 3: can obtain asylum and what has to be part of

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Speaker 3: these certain categories to obtain asylum. What he did get

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Speaker 3: was protection of removal under a Convention against torture because

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Speaker 3: again quoting it is more likely than not that their

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Speaker 3: respondent will be detained and tortured in El Salvador. El

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Speaker 3: Salvador had put out an inter poll red alert for

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Speaker 3: him for some reason, they deeply wanted him back. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: seem to be any evidence that this person committed crimes.

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Speaker 3: I appealed this this protection for removal right, and then

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Speaker 3: the same day they appealed it, they detained him when

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Speaker 3: he appeared at his Intensive Supervision Appearance Program check in.

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Speaker 3: So ice AP right is one of these things where

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Speaker 3: instead of being detained, you appear at ICE office and

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Speaker 3: check in every now and again, right, as opposed to

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Speaker 3: than just locking you up for the entire time. His

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Speaker 3: partner then testified to the quote that quote. Lionel called

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Speaker 3: me and told me that he was arrested. He says,

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Speaker 3: Immigration officers went up to him and his IAP check

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Speaker 3: in and told him he was under arrest. Lionel said

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Speaker 3: he asked the officers why and informed them he had

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Speaker 3: an order from the judge. The officer said something like

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Speaker 3: judges don't Judges' orders don't matter only the president.

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Speaker 2: Judges orders don't matter only the president. This is a

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Speaker 2: rogue law enforcement agency in service of a rogue president.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah.

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Speaker 3: Lionel then told me that he told the officers he

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Speaker 3: had an attorney. I'm still quoting from his partner here,

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Speaker 3: But the officer said that doesn't matter either.

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Speaker 2: He has an order forbidding his deportation, and they're telling

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Speaker 2: him that doesn't matter because the president wants you out

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Speaker 2: of the country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and that is what they have done, right,

511
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Speaker 3: that was the entire rendition of people to l Salbadol

512
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Speaker 3: was an end run around that, right, attempting.

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Speaker 2: To They're just like saying this to people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's what they're doing. That's Warren. That's what

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Speaker 3: they said to the court.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: We sneaked him out before you could stop it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So just to update people on this case, he called

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Speaker 3: from jail in Santa Anna and said he was in

521
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Speaker 3: a small space and he heard people being taken to

522
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Speaker 3: San Diego or Texas. Then he had to hang up.

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Speaker 3: He was moved around significantly, right all around, including into Texas.

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Speaker 3: When he showed up on the detainee locator, the judge

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Speaker 3: in the case issued attentive restraining order to prevent them

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Speaker 3: from removing him. In detention, he was only allowed to

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Speaker 3: make phone calls for three minutes, and in one of

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Speaker 3: those calls, he told his partner that detention officers, I

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Speaker 3: guess were telling detainees they were going to be removed

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Speaker 3: whether or not they signed deportation papers. In his case,

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Speaker 3: the court has issued an injunction to prevent his removal

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Speaker 3: or his read attention to soly shout out to this

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Speaker 3: Central District of California. I guess this is wild, right,

534
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Speaker 3: this is dictatorial regime. You have no rights other than

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Speaker 3: those impression decides to give to you. It's the subtext here.

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Speaker 4: It's explicitly the fascist thing of like there are people

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Speaker 4: who exist outside legal order in order to maintain it,

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Speaker 4: and that person is the fear. Like that that's just

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Speaker 4: what this is, right, Like, it's really explicit.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know what people expect on them, and

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Speaker 3: you know, the expects addressed like they're in the sound

542
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Speaker 3: of music, you know, like this is what fascism looks like.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about some more immigration cases.

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Speaker 2: What other immigration updates do we have, James.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well none of them are great, to be honest.

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Speaker 2: No, the immigration segment has been a bit of a

547
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Speaker 2: bummer in the past. Let me check my watch six months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard on the soul and new do as

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Speaker 3: a district court has struck down the state's law forbidding

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Speaker 3: private immigration detention. This also happened in California, right, they

551
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Speaker 3: said it was stay overy, so this was an issue.

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Speaker 3: It's federal detentions, seid of Feds get to decide basically right.

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Speaker 3: So New Jersey had tried to stop Geo Group cour

554
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Speaker 3: Civic these massive detention operations from operating private immigration detention

555
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Speaker 3: in the state, couldn't get down on through the court.

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Speaker 3: Probably the bigger story this week is that the federal

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Speaker 3: government has signed a contract for a huge five thousand

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Speaker 3: bed tent camp facility for migration detention of Fort Bliss,

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Speaker 3: So according to reporting in Bloomberg. Bloomberg has reported that

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Speaker 3: the contract totals one point twenty six billion. The only

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Speaker 3: contract I was able to actually find was a Department

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Speaker 3: of Defense contract for two hundred and thirty one million,

563
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and seventy eight thousand, two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: nine dollars to be precise. What is not being reported

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Speaker 3: on this? And I don't understand why other than nobody

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Speaker 3: reported on immigration during the Biden admitt Apparently people are

567
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Speaker 3: looking for like analogues. What would this be like? Well,

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Speaker 3: the Department of Defense operated a tent facility at Fort

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Speaker 3: Bliss under Operation Allies Welcome for Afghan people arriving in

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Speaker 3: the United States. So after the bungled withdrawal from Afghanistan, right,

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Speaker 3: I interviewed one of them. I was freelancing for the

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Speaker 3: nation at that time, and there'll be a link in

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Speaker 3: the show notes. But the afghanswa Houals did a place

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Speaker 3: called Donia Anna Range, which is in New Mexico. So

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Speaker 3: Bliss Spans Texas in New Mexico. Right, This new complex

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Speaker 3: ne has to be in a different place because it

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Speaker 3: will be quote unquote soft sided, which just needs tents. Right,

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Speaker 3: But this one is accessible from El Paso streets and

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Speaker 3: it's accessible without entering the Fort Bliss main gate, right,

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Speaker 3: so people don't have to have on base clearance. The

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Speaker 3: Afghan site had ninety eight tenths, which each held about

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Speaker 3: one hundred people. This one will house five thousand people,

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Speaker 3: so we can assume about five hundred tenths. Right. This

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Speaker 3: contract for one point two six billion, Operation Allies Welcome

585
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Speaker 3: was larger, right. It did other things. For instance, all

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Speaker 3: those people got their COVID vaccinations because they hadn't gotten

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Speaker 3: them when they were in Afghanistan. A lot of other

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Speaker 3: vaccinations too. That that spent three billion just in fiscal

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Speaker 3: year twenty twenty two. To give people a sense of

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Speaker 3: the scale of these things, right, So one point two

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Speaker 3: six billion, it's not at all out of the question.

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Speaker 3: And in fact brings me on to my next point,

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Speaker 3: which is that it may be a bit low given

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Speaker 3: this company has no experience with this kind of operation.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: One of the questions we asked back in November when

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Speaker 3: we did are like what could happen under Trump? Is

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Speaker 3: how will they stand up these facilities? Who has the

599
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Speaker 3: experience to do it well? This company does not have

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Speaker 3: the experience to do it right. They've never done anything

601
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Speaker 3: like this before. They have some logistic compact with DoD,

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Speaker 3: but they do not have the capacity. At least they

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Speaker 3: have not shown that they have the capacity to do

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Speaker 3: anything on this scale. The DoD operation used a lot

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Speaker 3: of contractors as well as defact dining facility for food.

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Speaker 3: And I just want to quote some of the people

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Speaker 3: I called a bull, who I talked to, who was

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Speaker 3: in that detention facility. Quote for the past month, nighttime

609
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Speaker 3: was the most horrible time for us because every day

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Speaker 3: it got colder. We didn't have enough warm clothes or

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Speaker 3: any thick blankets to fight against the cold. They gave

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Speaker 3: us a blanket that was so thin we could see

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Speaker 3: through it. These are people who in some cases fought

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Speaker 3: alongside United States soldiers, right, Like it's not going to

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Speaker 3: be better for migrants. Ball also told me the food

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Speaker 3: wasn't great. He said, quote it's not cooked enough or

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Speaker 3: it's burned. He did say that he appreciated the quote.

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Speaker 3: The guy doing the cooking was always asking for feedback.

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Speaker 3: They tried to cook Afghan food, I guess, and yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he appreciated the effort to cook food.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they ain't going to try that now

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Speaker 3: this time, right, but not, for instance, provide halal food,

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Speaker 3: which was a consideration.

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming this time they're going to be getting the

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Speaker 4: fucking boldy food from Florida.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the United States has a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of food should have gone out to many of the

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Speaker 3: starving people around the world, right, but yeah, has been

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Speaker 3: left to mold and warehouses. So yeah, they might be

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Speaker 3: eating the high energy biscuits or the humrats. Talking of food,

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Speaker 3: Human Rights Watch has reached a report detailing human rights

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Speaker 3: abuses at detention centers. The report focuses on Chrome North

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Speaker 3: Service Processing Center OKA Chrome, the Broward Transitional Center, and

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Speaker 3: the Federal Detention Center. All of these are in Florida.

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Speaker 2: Are those first two like privately owned better than being

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Speaker 2: leased or like licensed out to the government.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they're run by contractors for the government for immigration

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Speaker 3: detentionent We've talked about Chrome before. It was one that

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Speaker 3: was already ever crowded, had two deaths.

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Speaker 2: It's also the name that I would pick for like

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Speaker 2: an evil agency, who gets the product prison. Yeah, it's one.

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Speaker 2: It's Chrome with a K with a K too, which

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Speaker 2: makes it more evil.

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Speaker 3: So the incidence detailed in this report pretty pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: They include people being forced to eat like dogs with

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Speaker 3: a hands tied behind their back. They include people being

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Speaker 3: punished and put in solitary confinement for seeking medical and

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Speaker 3: mental health help and having their handsipped. I hadn't been

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Speaker 3: forced to lay down on wet floors, as it's very

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Speaker 3: common in ice facilities. The air conditioning was turned up

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Speaker 3: very high to make it uncomfortably cold.

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Speaker 2: Just like in like the Florida bomb.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is the case in every immigration

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Speaker 3: detention facility that I've heard about. Right, the Spanish word

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Speaker 3: is like it translates to ice box is the word

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Speaker 3: that people used to refer That's the colloquial term for

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Speaker 3: these facilities.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: The FDC staff also used stun grenades and physical force

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Speaker 3: against detainees protesting denial of food, water, medical attention. The

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Speaker 3: report details people being detained in crowdedge cells with no

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Speaker 3: beds or bedding, and denied essential medications. Read a couple

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Speaker 3: of quotes from people interviewed in a report here. Quote

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Speaker 3: you could not fall asleep because it was so cold.

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Speaker 3: I thought I was going to experience hypothermia. One said

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Speaker 3: it's like psychological abuse. You feel like your life is over,

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Speaker 3: said another. All right, we're back.

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Speaker 2: This past week, the World Food Program released a new

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Speaker 2: report on food scarcity in Gaza enforced through the Israeli military,

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Speaker 2: and also discussed a quote unquote deadly incident this past

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Speaker 2: Sunday in which dozens of civilians were killed and injured

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Speaker 2: while waiting to access food as a World Food Program

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Speaker 2: convoy was entering northern Gaza. The Director of Emergency Preparedness

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Speaker 2: and Response, Ross Smith said, quote yesterday's incident is one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest tragedies we've seen for our operations in

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Speaker 2: Gaza and elsewhere while we're trying to work, and it's

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Speaker 2: completely avoidable, and it's an absolute tragedy unquote. Currently, food

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Speaker 2: safety experts warned that one in five people in Gaza

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Speaker 2: face enforced starvation. I'm going to quote from the un here. Quote,

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Speaker 2: Mister Smith said, World Food Program assessments show that a

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Speaker 2: quarter of the population is facing famine like conditions. Almost

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand women and children are suffering from severe

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Speaker 2: acute malnutrition and need treatment as soon as possible. Pointing

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Speaker 2: to reports, he said, quote people are dying from a

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Speaker 2: lack of humanitarian assistance every day, and we are seeing

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Speaker 2: this escalate day by day, saying that food and humanitarian

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Speaker 2: assistance are quote the only solution at the moment for

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Speaker 2: Gaza unquote.

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Speaker 4: And it's worth emphasizing with this that like, the food

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Speaker 4: is there, it is literally just sitting warehouses, like they

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Speaker 4: can bring it in the moment the blockade lifts, but

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Speaker 4: the Israelis don't want.

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Speaker 2: To bombing people bringing food into Gaza at this point.

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Speaker 4: Then they keep on doing this thing where they'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we have food, and then they shoot everyone who shows food.

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Speaker 2: So this is something that World Food Program has been saying. Quote.

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Speaker 2: We also need to have no armed actors near food

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Speaker 2: and distribution points, near our convoys, and near the movement

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Speaker 2: of those convoys from one place to another.

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Speaker 3: This is basic humanitarian a ship. This is like one

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Speaker 3: oh one fucking operating humanitarian resources in a conflict zone stuff.

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Speaker 3: This isn't new stuff, right. This is asking the IDEF

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Speaker 3: to do what you would expect any reasonable actor to

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Speaker 3: do in one of these situations. Obviously the IDEF not

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Speaker 3: a particularly reasonable actor.

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Speaker 2: Rain speaking of things they don't like, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Garrison, you cannot compare the work of Joe Strama to

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Speaker 3: the ideas unre Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: Like Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to tariff talk thing where I had

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Speaker 4: no role in the prior transition to it. So we've

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Speaker 4: gotten a few tariff deals over the week. We got

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Speaker 4: one with the Philippines where Trump has negotiated a deal

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Speaker 4: for a nineteen percent tariff on all goods and the

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Speaker 4: Philippines coming to the US. There's also been a deal

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Speaker 4: established with Japan where we're out of terif rate of

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Speaker 4: fifteen percent. This one also has and there's been a

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Speaker 4: few of these deals that have things like this where

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Speaker 4: Japan also had to agree to invest five hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty billion dollars in the US. It's really unclear how

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Speaker 4: that's going to work, Like it might just be loans.

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Speaker 4: That's the part I don't even know if it's going

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Speaker 4: to happen, because it's so staggeringly fuzzy and unclear as

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Speaker 4: to what any of that means. Trump has been talking

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Speaker 4: about how there's going to be like a ninety ten

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Speaker 4: profit split where Americans take the ninety percent of the

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Speaker 4: profits in Japan takes on tempers very weird, very weird.

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Speaker 4: This is also look, it's worth noting that the last

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Speaker 4: time we deliberately decapped Japan's export manufacturing economy dreating the

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Speaker 4: Plaza Accords, it kicked off an economic crisis that Japan

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Speaker 4: has literally never recovered from. Like people used to talk

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Speaker 4: about the Japanese economy in the way that we talk

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Speaker 4: about the Chinese economy now is like the emerging, rising,

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Speaker 4: unstoppable force that was going to like become the world's

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Speaker 4: greatest manufacturing power, and we don't do that anymore, partially

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Speaker 4: because of like Japan hit like structural overcapacity in the market.

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah. Listen to me on every

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Speaker 4: other episode where I talk about the Plaza Accords and

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Speaker 4: structural global manufacturing over capacity. But again, the second thing

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Speaker 4: is we also made their manufacturing less competitive and it

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Speaker 4: destroyed the entire global economy, Like it's the reason two

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Speaker 4: thousand and eight happened is because we did that and

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Speaker 4: we're doing it again. Like twenty eight percent of the

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Speaker 4: Japanese economy is based on like car exports, So that's great,

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Speaker 4: that's fun. There's also been reports that there's a deal

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Speaker 4: with the EU coming. I don't know who knows. I'm

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Speaker 4: not going to say what's in it because we don't

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Speaker 4: know if this is going to happen. There's that one

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Speaker 4: in particular. There's a lot of things that can torpedo it,

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Speaker 4: but it's not great. Also, these terrorists, by the way,

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Speaker 4: are replacing the ones that are scheduled to go into

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Speaker 4: effect on August first. Trump is still promising to put

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Speaker 4: out tariff things for one hundred and twenty countries or

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Speaker 4: something like that. I don't know the nub of the

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Speaker 4: number is exactly right now. It keeps changing, keeps also

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Speaker 4: not writing those letters, so who knows.

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Speaker 2: Silky Doki.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great way to have terrorist policy, say is that

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Speaker 4: Trump says something on truth social and then doesn't do it.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes he does, yes, sometimes he does.

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Speaker 3: It's good. It's a good way to do things.

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Speaker 2: It's okay.

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Speaker 4: So speaking of things, being done badly. We need to

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Speaker 4: talk about NPR and PBS because the Republicans just cut

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Speaker 4: one point one billion dollars from public broadcasting, which is like, all.

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Speaker 2: Again, we were reported on what Elmo said last week.

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Speaker 2: It's not a surprise that PBS is getting cut after this.

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Speaker 4: I language, hold on, We have not on this show

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Speaker 4: talked about the fact that PBS like sold Sesame Street.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 4: This is so ghoulish, like it does Jenny Wieley. Sesame

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Speaker 4: Street was like one of the few really truly great

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Speaker 4: triumphs of American state media. Like it was specifically designed

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Speaker 4: to teach kids in underprivileged backgrounds how to read.

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Speaker 2: Now it's on like like HBO, Max or Netflix are

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Speaker 2: still available on public podcasting.

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Speaker 3: Some of it's in a public domain, Like it's probably

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Speaker 3: on YouTube because it's been out for SOTI.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like the problem is, like, this is Jenni Wineley,

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Speaker 4: one of the greatest public goods the US ever created,

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Speaker 4: and it was fucking looted and privatized and and now

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Speaker 4: as all of its funding is being cut, Trump has

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Speaker 4: basically been pissed off at public podcasting for ages. Actually, hilariously,

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Speaker 4: a lot of this One of the big origin points

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Speaker 4: of this was that they had friend of the show

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Speaker 4: Vicky Osterweil on NPR to do an interview about her

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Speaker 4: book in Defensive Looting and Republican has been mad ever since.

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Speaker 2: Like a few months ago, Trump signing Executive Order to

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Speaker 2: quote unquote end taxpayer subsidation of biased media, which specifically

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Speaker 2: sought to defund MPR and PBS through ending contributions through

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Speaker 2: the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, in the order saying quote,

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Speaker 2: government funding of news media in this environment is not

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Speaker 2: only outdated and unnecessary, but corrosive to the appearance of

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Speaker 2: journalistic independence. And instead they replaced the role of PBS

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Speaker 2: and NPR with One American News, the super far right

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Speaker 2: mode in sending like American News overseas. Instead of rooting

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Speaker 2: things like the Voice of America, they are explicitly entering

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Speaker 2: a partnership with OA N which is of the.

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Speaker 3: Certain stuff like Voice of American News and the Cuban

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Speaker 3: Broadcasting Office right like where they which are explicitly like

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Speaker 3: these are things the US government goes to to advance

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Speaker 3: its a gender abroad like this isn't.

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Speaker 4: And now the way that they're doing that is with

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Speaker 4: one America, which is really funny because that probably does

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Speaker 4: make it less effective. I do want to circle back

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Speaker 4: a little bit to what this is going to do

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Speaker 4: to MPR and PPS, because like the main central NPR.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it's a disaster for even like the

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Speaker 4: national MPR, but like this is going to just annihilate

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Speaker 4: any semblages of like local news.

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Speaker 2: Right, like yeah, because they rely on public broadcasting and

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Speaker 2: NPR massively around the country.

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Speaker 4: Especially in rural areas. Like one of the Reportsoy was

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Speaker 4: ridic was talking about how like Texas was expecting to

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Speaker 4: lose half of their like NPR stations and like rural areas.

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Speaker 4: This is just like the apocalypse for any kind of

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Speaker 4: like rural local news. And you know, obviously, like this

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Speaker 4: is a part of trust attempt to just consolidate all

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Speaker 4: of the American media under his control through a combination

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Speaker 4: of destroying this kind of stuff and then doing lawsuits.

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Speaker 4: And also and this is another thing we need to

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Speaker 4: talk about, is like here'shon you talked about this Guidiance

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Speaker 4: merger and how that you know, is being used as

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Speaker 4: leverage to like just destroy the gut CBS, loot it

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Speaker 4: and turn it into just like a pro Trumpet.

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Speaker 2: Outlet, right, like allegedly entering in a cooperation deal with

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Speaker 2: the Free Press from Barry Weiss exert editorial control over

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Speaker 2: CBS News, which we'll just take the outlet destroy sixty minutes,

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Speaker 2: one of the most respectable, longstanding television news programs in

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Speaker 2: the history of the country.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a very good argument that this is

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Speaker 4: what Bezos is doing to the Washington Post. Right, is

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Speaker 4: better for these people that news outlets don't exist, or

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Speaker 4: like seven people read the like unhandebar right things than

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Speaker 4: it is for like anything to actually exist. This is

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Speaker 4: all again like media consolidation of a diictorial regime being

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Speaker 4: accelerated by the fact that all of these things are

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Speaker 4: owned either by corporations or individual billionaires. So that's bad.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of bad, the EPA's Office of Research has just

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Speaker 4: been eliminated. This is a unbelievable catastrophe because the EPA's

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Speaker 4: Office of Research does all of the basic research about

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Speaker 4: like is this chemical dangerous? What does this chemical do

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Speaker 4: to the environment, what does like what do these pollution

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Speaker 4: levels do? This is the part of the EPA that

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Speaker 4: undergirds like basically all in our mental regulations and all

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Speaker 4: regulations on things like chemical protection. Right, it comes out

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Speaker 4: of this Office of Research. That's where the standards are set,

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Speaker 4: that's where the science has done that is used in

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Speaker 4: basically like all like regulatory policy that the EPA does

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Speaker 4: that other agencies used to, and they're just destroying it.

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Speaker 4: Trump has said that they're going to move some of

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Speaker 4: it to other offices, but they've already been massively downsizing

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Speaker 4: the EPA. Every day we edge closer and closer to

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Speaker 4: w're just like, this is the country with no environmental regulations.

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Speaker 4: We're seeing it more and more. At some point on

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Speaker 4: the show, we're going to cover all of the unhinged

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Speaker 4: shit that's been happening with the power stations and like

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Speaker 4: generators set up to power AI stuff. I also want

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Speaker 4: to specifically mention one of the things that the New

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Speaker 4: York Times reported on, which is that the people who

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Speaker 4: are running the destruction of the EPA have been trying

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Speaker 4: to get rid of the integrated risk information system, which,

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Speaker 4: if you've ever dealt with dangerous chemicals, the integrated risk

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Speaker 4: information system is the system that tells you what the

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Speaker 4: effects of it are. Every chemical has one right, and

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Speaker 4: these fucking people like there's a guy who's now in

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Speaker 4: the American First Policy Institute, which, like Trump, pulls a

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Speaker 4: lot of shit from who is literally talking about just

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Speaker 4: getting rid of it because quote, IRIS evaluations often rely

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Speaker 4: on worst case scenario hazard assumptions that fail to consider

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Speaker 4: real world exposure.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of the situation with these things, isn't you

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Speaker 3: don't want to look at the worst case scenario.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And when you don't look at the worst case scenario.

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Speaker 4: One of the other agencies that's been like just destroyed

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Speaker 4: is the US Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, which

878
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Speaker 4: is very famous for doing a bunch of very very

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Speaker 4: good YouTube videos about like plant disasters and like how

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Speaker 4: safety violations and safety laps has caused like fucking plants

881
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: to explode. And that's just like gone now. And this is,

882
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: you know, the world that these people want you to

883
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: live in is a world in which you don't know

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Speaker 4: what all of these corporations are pumping into the environment

885
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: around you. And even if you can figure out what

886
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: the chemicals they're pumping, like into the roundwater that you're

887
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: drinking is, you're not supposed to know what it does.

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Speaker 4: This is just like the basic infrastructure for how all

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00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: American like chemical operations work, and they're just trying to

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Speaker 4: destroy it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Great, speaking of chemicals, Yeah, speaking of chemicals and the

893
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: government trying to destroy it. The government of Puerto Rico

894
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Speaker 4: has passed a bill that bans gender affirming care of

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Speaker 4: all kinds for anyone under the age of twenty one,

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Speaker 4: because twenty one is the.

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Speaker 2: Age, the highest that we've seen.

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Speaker 4: So what's happening here is twenty one is the age

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Speaker 4: which become a legal adult in Puerto Rico, which is unhinged. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is the highest band we've seen. We've seen a

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Speaker 4: couple of other places try to do it to nineteen.

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Speaker 4: This also includes what's basically a high amendment for transcare,

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Speaker 4: like all transcare of all ages that says that like

904
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Speaker 4: state money cannot be used, so state insurance stuff like

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Speaker 4: that in Puerto Rico cannot be used to pay for

906
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Speaker 4: any gender affirming care at all, which is fucking hideous.

907
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Speaker 4: This is basically the thing we were trying to stop

908
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Speaker 4: with medicaid wherever we did stop medicaid the Lost Budget bill,

909
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Speaker 4: but they've passed a local version of it. This bill

910
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: promises this I think it's up to five years in

911
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Speaker 4: prison and fifteen thousand dollars in fines for anyone who

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Speaker 4: gives trans healthcare to anyone under the age of twenty one.

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Speaker 2: So if you never plan to visit Puerto Rico, it's

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Speaker 2: time to start mailing gender firm and care services to

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Speaker 2: people in Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 4: The fun part, too, is this law is worded so

917
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Speaker 4: loosely that there is genuine concern that it could apply

918
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Speaker 4: to Like if you are a parent and you try

919
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: to get your kid gender firman care, this could apply

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Speaker 4: to you.

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Speaker 2: There's I would say, I think that aspect of it

922
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Speaker 2: is still a little bit unclear. I don't want to

923
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Speaker 2: inspire too much panic in that sense. I think a

924
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Speaker 2: lot of it is directed at people who work in

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Speaker 2: the medical industry. But still I think if you do

926
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Speaker 2: not ever want to visit Puerto Rico and you want

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Speaker 2: to help trans people.

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Speaker 3: Because presumably like no ban on like the import of

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Speaker 3: the products, right, I guess some product it themselves controlled.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in Chlade, they don't start doing that.

931
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Speaker 2: But because famously there's never illegal drugs mailed in the

932
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Speaker 2: United States, they can't stop us. Fell us. We're getting

933
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Speaker 2: the HRT one way or another. But this sucks and

934
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Speaker 2: it will force people to adapt and it's a really

935
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Speaker 2: unfortunate to see. But I do believe in the ability

936
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Speaker 2: which tries people to overcome the state's attacks against us.

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Speaker 2: Before we close, there's actually one other piece of important

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Speaker 2: news that we need to discuss. We're turning once again

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Speaker 2: to the Stinky Musky segment because the Tesla Diner has

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Speaker 2: finally opened. I know we've been waiting for this for

941
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Speaker 2: a long time. It is open in La, right right, yeah,

942
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Speaker 2: so James, you need to get up there and go

943
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Speaker 2: to the Tesla Diner. They have cyber truck food containers,

944
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Speaker 2: so that's cool.

945
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Speaker 4: Cool.

946
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: They have Tesla robots helping to serve food and drinks.

947
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Speaker 2: It's what they're calling retro futurist style. I would never

948
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Speaker 2: say that. And most importantly, if you want to spend

949
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Speaker 2: twelve dollars, you can get yourself a single serving of

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Speaker 2: epic bacon that's on the menu. It's called epic Bacon.

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Speaker 4: Twelve dollars.

952
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Speaker 2: Twelve dollars Epic bacon at the Tesla diaers twelve oh.

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Speaker 4: They also opened it at four to twenty.

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Speaker 3: I saw that they also have avocado toast, which is

955
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Speaker 3: great for those of us who will never afford a home.

956
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Speaker 2: I can't support the Tesla diners serving this lib cock

957
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 2: avocado toes needs to be beef tallow fries.

958
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Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately they did put buttermilk bread with avocado toast.

959
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: So just so like vegan people can't eat there.

960
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Speaker 2: I guess there you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I cannot go to the Testa diner.

962
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Speaker 3: I don't have to return to Buffalo Wild Wings at

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Speaker 3: two am like I did when I was up in

964
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Speaker 3: La covering the protest a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: You know, four wild Wings open that late? Incredible.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you it was time.

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Speaker 4: What other time are you going to be eating Buffalo

968
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Speaker 4: wild wings?

969
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: You lunch? They are like a fucking psycho in college.

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Speaker 1: But it was a good time back in the.

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Speaker 3: This is a great time. God, no one looked to

972
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Speaker 3: be weird for wearing a fucking plate carrier with press stand.

973
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Speaker 2: Buffalo that is a war zone. It's basically one step

974
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Speaker 2: removed from like waffle house.

975
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, which is in turn one step removed from Falujah.

976
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Speaker 2: So, James, I thought that you wanted to plug.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, So we do have an email address.

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Speaker 3: It's a encrypted email address. And you can send us

979
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Speaker 3: emails there. It is cool Zone Tips at proton dot me.

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Speaker 3: What's it going to include a fundraiser this week? We're

981
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Speaker 3: trying to do one of these every week if there's

982
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Speaker 3: someone in your community, like we're trying to focus on

983
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Speaker 3: my fundraisers, people who are raising money for legal a

984
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Speaker 3: people who need representation. I know immigration lawyers are either

985
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Speaker 3: overworked or overpriced. It seems to be like like two

986
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Speaker 3: brackets that they've gone into. Hit me up. You can

987
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Speaker 3: send that to me at that email address and we'll

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Speaker 3: try and include more of them. This week.

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Speaker 2: We we are.

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Speaker 3: Fundraising for Primrose and you can find her go fund

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Speaker 3: me page at www dot GoFundMe dot com, slash f

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Speaker 3: slash immigration hyphen lawyer hyphen for hyphen. Primos at Promos

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Speaker 3: is out of detention right now, which is great, but

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Speaker 3: I know she still has a lot of significant expenses

995
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Speaker 3: and legal expenses coming up. So if you would like

996
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Speaker 3: to donate, if you'd like to help, this is a

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Speaker 3: concrete thing you can do to help someone.

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Speaker 2: We reported the news, We reported the news. It could happen.

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