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Speaker 1: Please. He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollly here

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Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson. And Matt I've had a lot of

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Speaker 1: time over the weekend to think about everything that we

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Speaker 1: talked about last week. Of course, the Ben Roethlisberger deal

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Speaker 1: I've doing some reading and research and some things of

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Speaker 1: that nature. And um, I really think that when the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are in a situation here where people talk about, um,

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Speaker 1: of in a situation this year. They've got They've got

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger coming back for one season and that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's once, it's one year and that is it. It's done. Um,

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Speaker 1: And so they're in a situation here, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: available versus now it's all yeah, it's all right here

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Speaker 1: in front of them. The really interesting offseason and season,

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, your biggest your biggest needs on

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Speaker 1: this team are offensive lineman and a running back. But

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Speaker 1: those also are long term needs. That's not that's not

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Speaker 1: just a short that's not just that, hey when own

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. You need that for the long term

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Speaker 1: as well, because two years from now, when you're when

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Speaker 1: you're breaking in a new quarterback whoever it would be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: be nice, have a running game, be nice to have

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Speaker 1: an offensive line to block form, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: And that helps you win for today, and it also

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Speaker 1: helps win now in a way. The world's are colliding

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Speaker 1: in a good way for that way, because you can

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Speaker 1: probably do a little bit of all the above, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean usually when you try to ride the fence

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Speaker 1: so don't anything about the other sports, it's really hard

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Speaker 1: to do. That doesn't mean there to be a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: you know, champion next year, but you can kind of

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Speaker 1: do both, you know, prepare for the next quarterback not

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Speaker 1: even knowing who that person is, while making you better today.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of an interesting situation, it is, and and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to really talk about that even more in

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Speaker 1: this segment of the Drive. Of course, you can follow us, uh,

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Speaker 1: especially this one. Absolutely leave us a good review. But

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Speaker 1: you know, we've seen in the past where the Steelers

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Speaker 1: would take a high upside guy in the first round,

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Speaker 1: a Bud Dupree. You take a chance on an already

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Speaker 1: burns well, he's you know, he's he's not a finished

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Speaker 1: product yet. We think he's young, but he could you know,

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Speaker 1: he's still athletic, and we'll turn him into something, hopefully

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Speaker 1: turn him into This isn't a year to do that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that you have to do that

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Speaker 1: as much with running backs an offensive lineman necessarily. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is a little different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like may it feels only played fifteen college games. He's

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah and Jeremiah said he only has twenty four players

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Speaker 1: He's never done it. He's never done it. And why

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really intriguing. And let alone try and

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Speaker 1: because but really there are twenty four guys who are

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Speaker 1: to take that statement from Jeremiah? Is that a big

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Speaker 1: but do they fit with the Steelers? Like, as much

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Speaker 1: like there's been a lot of talk that lands as

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Speaker 1: They've had success in this league. They're getting better. We

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's as many of those where

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Speaker 1: like next year, if someone emerges in that group, you

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Speaker 1: assume Watts already signed up, which you can afford them though, right,

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Speaker 1: that's a different half the draft his success or you

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Speaker 1: very macro. I mean, that's very goble you have. I

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Speaker 1: wrote that. I wrote something last week on on Kisburg

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Speaker 1: the offensive tackles available or the running backs available, which

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Speaker 1: way do you go? I said, I said, you always

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Speaker 1: perhaps because they're I mean, the more I've done mocked

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Speaker 1: there are fifteen tackles in this draft. I'd be perfectly

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Speaker 1: okay with getting there's there's three running backs and the

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Speaker 1: Steelers don't even have a choos or banner at running back. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean a young guy that can hold

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Speaker 1: the position down. I just don't see it. They don't

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Speaker 1: a good deal if you wait, but you'll probably get

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Speaker 1: your fourth pick, right, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a game changer. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be a a game changer. I mean that at best, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get Jamal Williams or somebody like that, and you

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Speaker 1: might settle for hide. Is that really much better than

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Speaker 1: what you've been playing with? You want to upgrade the position,

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Speaker 1: you want to you know, you want to make things

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Speaker 1: to hand the ball to whoever that young running back is, right,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, if you're a free agent, it

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Speaker 1: makes you more appealing, if you're trade candidate with the

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Speaker 1: no trade clause, the Pittsburgh or you know, Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about this a lot, but and I don't

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Speaker 1: am super excited to have these conversations with you a

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Speaker 1: year from now. And if we are having these sort

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Speaker 1: thing we can just already we say over and over

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Speaker 1: is what the Steelers naj Harris or Dante Williams. They

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Speaker 1: had yards and caught thirty balls and we're a fantasy

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Speaker 1: asset and have one year under their belt and we

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Speaker 1: Like that's a nice way to talk about the landing

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Speaker 1: big chunk of you off Like if you get a

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Speaker 1: running back who provides total yards, Yeah, right right, that's

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Speaker 1: a nice part of you. That's a nice chunky of

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Speaker 1: your offense. And the Steelers haven't had that in a

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Speaker 1: long time. And you would think Ben would be very

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Speaker 1: happy to accept that as well. Take it. He becomes

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Speaker 1: more efficient, the deep balls are easier to get off.

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Speaker 1: That type of thing. And the next guy says, boy,

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Speaker 1: I can go here and hand the ball off and

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Speaker 1: not as much as asked for me, because you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get my home. I mean, you're not asking if

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna trade for my homes or Watson or

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Speaker 1: somebody like that. That's just gonna put the world on

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Speaker 1: his shoulders. You're gonna need to create an environment for him. Absolutely.

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