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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, there's Charles Chuck,
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Speaker 1: was he just like a classmate. Yeah, he was like
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Speaker 1: I think these? I'm sure more than one person has
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Speaker 1: be there. Well, yeah, you gotta have that steely sense
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Speaker 1: Nice man, do you feel indulged? Very much? Good? All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about knife throwing. So I'm a little psyched
Speaker 1: about this because knife throwing taps into my ninja training
Speaker 1: that I did under Tommy Roper, as I'm sure I've
Speaker 1: mentioned before, uh reading about this researching it, I never
Speaker 1: threw knives. We never made it that far in Maybe
Speaker 1: now I'll be I'll be hang gliding throwing knives at
Speaker 1: the same time, going to get into both at once.
Speaker 1: But I did a little throwing star stuff. Throwing star
Speaker 1: is like the dummies, uh, knife throwing because that always sticks, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, depending on how many spikes you got coming
Speaker 1: off of it, and um, and and whether the tree
Speaker 1: is actually like a metal pole or not, you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna stick a throwing star. Throwing a knife is an
Speaker 1: entirely different endeavor, and it's something that anybody can do that.
Speaker 1: Nicholas Jerbis were Gurbs never met him yet. Um. He
Speaker 1: points out this is actually kind of like a low
Speaker 1: hanging hobby that you could. You can get a set
Speaker 1: of knives for ten fifteen bucks apiece. You probably one
Speaker 1: about five is well will explain why, um, maybe six.
Speaker 1: And then you just practice, give yourself a good block
Speaker 1: of wood and practice and anybody can do this. It's
Speaker 1: not like you're born to throw knives. You practice and
Speaker 1: if you like it, you keep going. You just get
Speaker 1: better and better at it, and you can impress your
Speaker 1: friends and neighbors. Yes, and here's the point in the
Speaker 1: show where we issue our c o A. Kids, if
Speaker 1: you're out there, do not go get a steake knife
Speaker 1: from your drawer and start throwing it at your dog.
Speaker 1: That is not a throwing knife. And never throw anything
Speaker 1: at your dog, kids. I will come find you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: never throw anything at anybody that's sharp. But Um throwing
Speaker 1: knives are built to throw. They're weighted and balanced to throw.
Speaker 1: They're not like regular old knives. And we'll get into
Speaker 1: all that. But just if you really want to try
Speaker 1: throwing knives, go ask mom and dad or Tommy Roper
Speaker 1: and get ready, get ready for a no and then
Speaker 1: and then play them this podcast where it is an
Speaker 1: actual um circus art. And please, for the love of God,
Speaker 1: tell me this is the last one. I don't think
Speaker 1: of the circus arts. No, it's not. What else is, sir?
Speaker 1: There's a bunch we've done. The Globe of Death. Yeah,
Speaker 1: flame swallowing, lion taming, swords swallowing, sword swallowing. We did
Speaker 1: circus families, just straight up circus families. Human cannonball just
Speaker 1: got to be it. I don't think so, man. I
Speaker 1: think it's going to keep going in cloud clowns. Clowns
Speaker 1: for sure, yeah, Um, they don't don't want to p
Speaker 1: T Barnum though, No, you mean Hugh Jackman. What is it,
Speaker 1: Chuck Stradamus, I don't know, something like that make one
Speaker 1: lucky casting call, predict one sexual predator and one bad
Speaker 1: Lifetime movie? Or what what was shark Nato sci fi
Speaker 1: sci fi movie? Three little things? That's all. That doesn't
Speaker 1: make me nuxtra Domans haven't won the lottery yet. I
Speaker 1: think of all the things I've said that didn't come
Speaker 1: true right way more. Yeah, I guess that's true. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: whenever writes in and so, well that didn't happen, right,
Speaker 1: you really got that? Actually, they do right in to
Speaker 1: tell us we've got stuff wrong a lot. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna take this seriously because we want you ten year
Speaker 1: olds out there who want to get your parents to
Speaker 1: let you do this, to to see that you're taking
Speaker 1: this seriously by listening to this podcast. First. Okay, that's right.
Speaker 1: So what we're talking about specifically is known as, uh
Speaker 1: somewhat ironically as an impalement act um, which is really
Speaker 1: weird thing to call it. It's well, it's um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is. I think it's a little tongue in cheek,
Speaker 1: you think, because the point is tyn to not write.
Speaker 1: The point is to not impale somebody with this kind
Speaker 1: of thing, right, And and impalement acts are an umbrella
Speaker 1: term that cover not just knife throwing, but bull whip cracking, oh, shoot,
Speaker 1: sharp shooting, archery, William tell kind of thing. All of
Speaker 1: those fall under the the umbrella term of impalement X.
Speaker 1: Jerry's undressing over there to our left. She got very
Speaker 1: hot in the fire drop Um. All right, so this
Speaker 1: goes back if we can get back in the way
Speaker 1: back machine, all the way back to the late nineteenth century,
Speaker 1: we gotta go back here further than that. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna go like to ancient times? No, No, We'll still
Speaker 1: will just go with the nineteenth century, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: Chinese people in ancient times through stuff that's stuck in walls. Well,
Speaker 1: I looked at I looked up the oldest knife and
Speaker 1: every apparently they did. Apparently they found the oldest knife
Speaker 1: five thousand years ago. Oh, the oldest knife knife. So
Speaker 1: we've been using knives longer than there have been modern humans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. And then we at some point, probably about
Speaker 1: four hundred and ninety nine thousand years ago we started
Speaker 1: throwing knives. It's stabbing is okay, but throwing a knife
Speaker 1: is when you really can come to appreciate what a
Speaker 1: knife does. Okay. Man, there was nothing better in it,
Speaker 1: like an eighties movie than when like James Bond through
Speaker 1: a knife and I got a guy or American ninja.
Speaker 1: That's what I was trained on. Yeah. Um, alright, so
Speaker 1: wild uh wild West shows. Buffalo Bill and his Wild
Speaker 1: West Shows travel throughout the United States, throughout Europe. Um,
Speaker 1: knife throwing became a big spectacle at things like this,
Speaker 1: as well as obviously sharp shooting and probably archery. They
Speaker 1: probably did all the impalement arts. So they definitely did
Speaker 1: um and they really brought it to the world. Um,
Speaker 1: to the to the point where you can just basically
Speaker 1: say that's where it started, was Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And this is one of those things where, through a
Speaker 1: modern lens, it is incredibly misogynistic to think about the
Speaker 1: fact that you say, hey, let me take a scantily
Speaker 1: clad woman, a target girl. Yeah that's what they call him,
Speaker 1: a target girl, and throw knives at her. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: stand there still, Yeah, their knives near her. It's always
Speaker 1: a lady. She's always got on like a bikini or something.
Speaker 1: She's just like almost like while West steampunk renaissance fair thing, right,
Speaker 1: you know, just to cover all of the all of
Speaker 1: the geek boys dreams and desires. Right, But when you
Speaker 1: look at it through the modern lens, it's like, man,
Speaker 1: that that is totally misogynistic to Uh, that is the act. Um,
Speaker 1: it's got a burlesque thing going on. Yeah, sure, I
Speaker 1: mean you can see what they're trying to do is
Speaker 1: to delate to the young boys in the audience. They're
Speaker 1: trying to sell tickets, and it probably wouldn't have sold
Speaker 1: as many tickets that they just had build a farmhand
Speaker 1: with a balloon in his mouth getting popped, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean it's still pretty cool. You're still seeing the
Speaker 1: same thing. But yeah, it's just basically tradition and customed
Speaker 1: to have a scantily clad woman as your target girl. Again,
Speaker 1: that's what they call him, is the target girl, and
Speaker 1: that is the one of the two people involved in
Speaker 1: this impalement act. That's right. Um, we mentioned the balloon
Speaker 1: in the mouth. That was one of the big tricks. Uh.
Speaker 1: There was a German husband and wife named the Gibsons
Speaker 1: who introduced the very famous Wheel of Death at the
Speaker 1: Ringling Brothers show at in Madison Square Garden. Have you
Speaker 1: seen this? Yeah? Okay, so I had seen stuff like
Speaker 1: with knife throwing before, and I always thought Flee Circus
Speaker 1: was another one. Do you remember our Flee Circus episode
Speaker 1: where it turns out that Flee Circus has actually involved
Speaker 1: real Flea's Yeah, that was the best of the circus arts,
Speaker 1: and everybody thought it was like, no, it's magnets are
Speaker 1: just your imagination power of suggestion, and that's just not
Speaker 1: the case. The same thing applies to knife throwing impalement acts,
Speaker 1: Like I always thought, did you really? Yeah? I thought
Speaker 1: I think there was like a Happy Days or something
Speaker 1: like that where somebody gets volunteered. There's definitely an I
Speaker 1: Love Lucy with a Knife act where she's the target girl.
Speaker 1: But there's some show where maybe Laverne and surely not
Speaker 1: I think about it anyway, the guys throwing them and
Speaker 1: like the knives are coming out of the backboard around up.
Speaker 1: So it's all an illusion, right, That is not true?
Speaker 1: In knife acts, you're if you're the target girl, a
Speaker 1: dude is throwing twelve inch long extremely sharp, pointy knives
Speaker 1: right at your head and it's trying to get as
Speaker 1: close as possible to you without hitting you. Correct And
Speaker 1: again it's not just that's just the profile where they're
Speaker 1: throwing knives around you and making like a chalk outline
Speaker 1: of your of your body. That's the profile. But there's
Speaker 1: other ones like holding a cigarette in your mouth and
Speaker 1: knocking the ash off with a knife, or you're holding
Speaker 1: a flower in your mouth and they slowly like cut
Speaker 1: the stem off piece by piece. There's some some pretty
Speaker 1: interesting things that people have done with knife acts. Yeah, sometimes,
Speaker 1: and this is the riskiest of all moves. Risky or
Speaker 1: even more so than the wheel of death is when
Speaker 1: they do the when they covered the target over with paper, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the veiled wheel of death, so you can't even see
Speaker 1: that spinning who is behind there? You just have to
Speaker 1: have it timed completely perfectly right. But if you take
Speaker 1: a step back and think about this, there is nothing
Speaker 1: about that act that should allow you to say, oh,
Speaker 1: if I throw like this, I will I will miss
Speaker 1: the person because they're spinning, so you have to know
Speaker 1: where their body is at every second. But you've taken
Speaker 1: away how you know that, which is your vision because
Speaker 1: they're behind a big sheet of paper that you're throwing
Speaker 1: knives through. And there's this guy who will talk about
Speaker 1: a little further. His name is the Great throw Denie Love.
Speaker 1: This guy. Uh, he he has done something. It's probably
Speaker 1: the most dangerous, most impressive knife throwing act anyone's ever done.
Speaker 1: He did the veiled wheel of death with two target
Speaker 1: girls on it. So he has two girls strapped to
Speaker 1: a board spinning behind a big piece of paper that
Speaker 1: he can't see them through, and he's throwing knives at them. Yes,
Speaker 1: very fast. The guy through room on an average of
Speaker 1: a knife every point five nine seconds um. And he
Speaker 1: didn't hit either one of them. Amazing, it is amazing.
Speaker 1: It's so amazing. I think we just take a break
Speaker 1: and re regroup. We're back. We just watched uh one
Speaker 1: hour of great thirteen even videos. Uh. He apparently caught
Speaker 1: on like in its fifties. Yeah, it's like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty good at this. Back in just I guess somebody
Speaker 1: was like, maybe have you tried throwing knives? And he
Speaker 1: said no, I haven't, And they were like, well, try
Speaker 1: throwing knives and he said, well, fine, I will. A
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, he tried throwing and he said,
Speaker 1: I really like this. Um. He said it felt natural
Speaker 1: and right. So he started throwing knives and entered competitions
Speaker 1: and um started winning. I think he became world champion
Speaker 1: with him like two years he beat the other four people. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then he said, you know what, this is fun
Speaker 1: and all like these competitions, but I think I want
Speaker 1: to try and act like an old throwback and palement act.
Speaker 1: So we started one when basically but his wife Barbara
Speaker 1: Target girl, get up target Girl, one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she may have been the original one. Uh.
Speaker 1: Taught her to smoke cigarettes so he could knock the
Speaker 1: ash off of the end of them. And there you go.
Speaker 1: Impalement act achieved. But not only that, Chuck like the
Speaker 1: guy is like legitimately the best knife thrower on the planet. Well,
Speaker 1: he's one of them. He holds a record for fastest.
Speaker 1: But boy, you go down a YouTube rabbit hole and
Speaker 1: to like people like Ralph Thorne and better than Thordin. Huh, well,
Speaker 1: great Thordini does the impalement act as in the circus art.
Speaker 1: Ralph Thorn is like if you're running through the woods
Speaker 1: chasing somebody I haven't seen this guy and this is
Speaker 1: well that's the thorn style. We'll get into those styles later.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, he will like launch himself off of
Speaker 1: a tree stump in the air and throw one behind
Speaker 1: his back and see now that's basically the training I was. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like martial arts, real world, suburban neighborhood dangers. There's a raccoon.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, you're not throwing a raccoons. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: so raccoon comes at me. Well sure, okay, Um, here's
Speaker 1: what you need if you if you're gonna throw a knife,
Speaker 1: you need a throwing knife. Throwing knife, Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's not a steak knife. It is very much made
Speaker 1: to be thrown. It is balanced so that you throw it,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about the different ways that they're balanced.
Speaker 1: But one thing they're not is sharp up on the sides. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're very pointy, but um, they're dull on the edges
Speaker 1: because you're gonna a lot of times to be throwing
Speaker 1: it by that blade. Um, so get a knife for throwing.
Speaker 1: The old saying, Um, sharp of point, sharper point is
Speaker 1: the point sharp of edge? Uh it doesn't. It does
Speaker 1: you no good that old saying yeah, that's a great thing,
Speaker 1: like that should go on a T shirt. You should so, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want a sharp point, but there's there's nothing about
Speaker 1: a sharp edge that's going to help you in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form, because the whole point, again, is the
Speaker 1: point that's gonna stick into that endo, whatever that target is,
Speaker 1: which is usually a block of wood. Right. So, um,
Speaker 1: depending on where how you're going to throw it, you
Speaker 1: want to throw the heavy end first. And there's a
Speaker 1: reason for this. The reason is is that, if you
Speaker 1: want to get technical about it, velocity equals um distance
Speaker 1: divided by time, right, And when you're throwing a knife,
Speaker 1: especially the heavy end first, the heavy end has traveled
Speaker 1: a further distance in the same amount of time than
Speaker 1: the lighter end. This, friends, creates something very important a
Speaker 1: knife throwing, although not fundamental, which is spin. Okay, And
Speaker 1: so if you throw the throw the knife, you're gonna
Speaker 1: throw it either blade end or handle end. And the
Speaker 1: end regards what you're holding when you throw it. And
Speaker 1: if you're holding say a knife handle, and you're throwing
Speaker 1: it from the handle end, you're the front of the knife.
Speaker 1: The point is going to be weighted. It's going to
Speaker 1: be heavier so that that starts the spin. If you're
Speaker 1: throwing it blade first, the handle itself will be heavier,
Speaker 1: so that will start the spin. And there's a couple
Speaker 1: of different depending on which way you're throwing. There's a
Speaker 1: the spin is going to take place over this the
Speaker 1: course of um a very short distance actually, and so
Speaker 1: let me let me just back up a second here. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's there's some factors involved. Okay, they are distanced to target,
Speaker 1: length of nighte, weight and balance and then knife type. Right,
Speaker 1: So the distance the target is going to is going
Speaker 1: to tell you what type of throw you want, that's right, Um,
Speaker 1: the kind of knife. Uh, they say, for every good
Speaker 1: rule of thumb here, just throw it out. But they
Speaker 1: do mention a rule of thumb regardless. That says a
Speaker 1: blade that weighs about one ounce per inch, so in
Speaker 1: thiss per inch of your the whole knife. Yeah, so um,
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. Well, you can throw it ever you want,
Speaker 1: but ten to sixteen ounces is a good starter knife, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and about that long or maybe twelve to
Speaker 1: fourteen inches and about that many ounces is where you
Speaker 1: want to start off as a beginner. All kinds of
Speaker 1: shapes to like definitely. Some of them are like little spears. Uh.
Speaker 1: Some have multiple points, more like throwing stars. Uh. They
Speaker 1: really run the gamut right there. Um. So, depending on
Speaker 1: how you're gonna throw, whether it's a handle throw or
Speaker 1: a blade throw, the weight of the knife is going
Speaker 1: to be either in the handle or the blade. It's
Speaker 1: going to be the opposite of where you're holding the knife. Um.
Speaker 1: And if you throw holding the blade, you're going to
Speaker 1: throw a half turn. It's a half turn throw right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the reason they call it that is because the
Speaker 1: knife only makes one half turn. The blade straightens out
Speaker 1: from your hand towards the target, and then that's the
Speaker 1: only turn it makes. Yeah, it's not like in the
Speaker 1: movies a lot of times you'll see you go right
Speaker 1: and turn like nine times and stick the guy in
Speaker 1: the forehead. That's really not what you're doing with knife throwing. No,
Speaker 1: it's basically if you if you're throwing it by the blade,
Speaker 1: it's gonna make one half turn and that's it. So
Speaker 1: you if your blade throwing, you would stand closest to
Speaker 1: the target, right, So if some guys coming at you
Speaker 1: dressed as a raccoon and you know, he's gonna hurt you,
Speaker 1: and you can throw a knife and he's real close,
Speaker 1: you would throw by the blade, that's right. Uh. And
Speaker 1: in fact, I don't even know if it's possible to
Speaker 1: throw a knife like they do in the movies that
Speaker 1: I don't think. So just tumbles because every video I
Speaker 1: saw there, like you try and prevent tumbling as much
Speaker 1: as you can, Like that's the whole game as too,
Speaker 1: because physics says that a revolving object that suddenly breaks
Speaker 1: free will continue to move in a straight line tangential
Speaker 1: to the point at which it's released. In other words,
Speaker 1: that release points a little tricky. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: dial that in. But we'll get to that too. And
Speaker 1: on the actual throwing right, Um, so the uh, the
Speaker 1: next the next furthest away from the target is if
Speaker 1: you're holding the the knife by the handle and you're
Speaker 1: throwing it, it's going to make that's a full turn,
Speaker 1: full spin uh, to where a blade goes from facing
Speaker 1: the target, facing away from the target, and back to
Speaker 1: facing the target in time to stick into that target
Speaker 1: and not embarrassingly bounce off because it hit the blade
Speaker 1: or the handle first. That's very humiliating. So humiliating. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the last one is the furthest throwing away
Speaker 1: and it's about the most you would ever want a
Speaker 1: blade to turn, which is two times. That's about thirty
Speaker 1: ft or about ten meters away from your target. You
Speaker 1: could possibly get it to spin twice, but usually you
Speaker 1: just wanted to spin once or half and that's it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And uh, did you say a half turn's about seven
Speaker 1: or eight feet? I don't think I did. I just
Speaker 1: said it was the closest. Yeah, about seven or eight feet.
Speaker 1: It depends full spin about twelve to fifteen And like
Speaker 1: you said, the the great throw Dni double Bondini double
Speaker 1: twist is up. Yeah. Although one of these other throws
Speaker 1: that we're gonna get into this thorn throw. One of
Speaker 1: the benefits is you can throw from anywhere, supposedly. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna take one more break and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: come back and teach you a little bit about throwing
Speaker 1: and then, uh, what to look for in a good knife. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you've got you know about how close you want
Speaker 1: to stand at the target, depending on whether you're holding
Speaker 1: the knife by the blade or the handle. The good
Speaker 1: thing is is there are a couple of different grips,
Speaker 1: but they're very similar. So if you're like I want
Speaker 1: to get into blade throwing first because that looks pretty cool,
Speaker 1: you're going to basically pinch them the blade of the knife.
Speaker 1: And remember these are not sharp edges, so you should
Speaker 1: be fine if you do. If you I saw, if
Speaker 1: you are using a sharp edge knife, you want to
Speaker 1: hold the blunt end. Yeah, but you don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. You don't even want to do that, so
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter which way you're holding it.
Speaker 1: But if you if it is sharp on what edge,
Speaker 1: hold the other edge and you're just basically pinching it
Speaker 1: between your your thumb and your first three fingers, just
Speaker 1: a little pitch. Yeah, it's just just a teeny pinch.
Speaker 1: Maybe stick your pinky out for effect, all right, and
Speaker 1: that that's the blade throw. Yeah, and you've already got
Speaker 1: your target. By the way, at this point, I know
Speaker 1: you mentioned a block of wood, but they recommend um
Speaker 1: aims small. What does it start small? Aim small? Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is don't don't You don't need a tree trunk
Speaker 1: um sliced up and put on a wall, like you
Speaker 1: just need like whatever, a little twelve inch by twelve
Speaker 1: inch block of wood, or maybe if you want to
Speaker 1: uh screw a bunch of wood together and then draw
Speaker 1: a target on there, that's fine too. Yeah. You should
Speaker 1: probably glue though, because the screws might your your knife
Speaker 1: might bounce off of them. Yeah, you know if you
Speaker 1: using metal screws as opposed to the traditional wooden dell. Right.
Speaker 1: So um, right, so the the that's the what did
Speaker 1: I say, that's the blade throw? Right? Ye, there's a
Speaker 1: handle throw too, and this one is called a hatchet
Speaker 1: throw or hammer throw or the handle throw you could
Speaker 1: call it to and everybody all know what you're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you stand, uh, you're a little further back for
Speaker 1: this one because you've got your your full turn going, uh,
Speaker 1: and then you just grip it like a baseball bat
Speaker 1: and swing away right right, close your eyes, and you
Speaker 1: hope for the best ninja strike, right yeah. Yeah. So um.
Speaker 1: The cool thing is what you were saying about starting small,
Speaker 1: aiming small, is that when you when you figure out
Speaker 1: that there's actually just a few mechanics going on here,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to tell what part of your throw
Speaker 1: is actually off, whether it's distance, whether it's when you're releasing,
Speaker 1: whether it's um how you're gripping it. The problems are
Speaker 1: the issues with your throw will show up, and you'll
Speaker 1: be able to read based on how the knife is
Speaker 1: landing or sticking. What's wrong with your throw? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: if you are throwing, I think blade first, and it sticks,
Speaker 1: but it's sticking at a really hard angle where the
Speaker 1: where the handle is pointing down. Then they say, maybe
Speaker 1: just move back six inches with your stance. That is it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, and then try it again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that means that you're the knife didn't get its
Speaker 1: full rotation. You wanted to basically be sticking straight out
Speaker 1: perpendicular to the target. Yeah, that's a correct throw as
Speaker 1: you're as you're learning to do this. Yeah, and did
Speaker 1: you say that it's generally your opposite leg of your
Speaker 1: throwing hand forward, So so yeah, so the stance, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean generally. But then again I also saw this
Speaker 1: Russian guy that through with his throwing leg or the
Speaker 1: same leg as a throwing hand forward, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you know it all works basically was this thing. I
Speaker 1: knew you had the Italian thing going on, but Russian
Speaker 1: that was good. I can I can do that. So
Speaker 1: let's get into the throw them. Okay, So the stance,
Speaker 1: I should say, so with the with the stance, you're
Speaker 1: standing with your um, you're you're throwing arm. The leg
Speaker 1: opposite you're throwing arm is closest to the target. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like you're throwing a dart, you know, um, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: like that. Well, actually that's not quite true when I
Speaker 1: throw it. When you throw a dart, you're the leg
Speaker 1: that is, the foot that is on the line is
Speaker 1: the same side as you're throwing hand, is it. Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: well this is the opposite of that. Maybe I've been
Speaker 1: throwing darts throng arms time. So the so the the
Speaker 1: leg opposite you're throwing arm is the one you want
Speaker 1: closest to the target. Traditionally, right, Traditionally your weight is
Speaker 1: on your back leg, that is you're throwing, and what
Speaker 1: you're doing is you're gripping the knife. However you want
Speaker 1: to blade or handle either way. You line it up
Speaker 1: right with your eye against the target, bring your arm
Speaker 1: back behind your head, and then keeping your wrists straight.
Speaker 1: You don't want to flip your wrist or anything like it.
Speaker 1: You bring it in an arc in front of you,
Speaker 1: and you finish like you are shaking somebody's hand. You're going, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you right? But I got a knife? Right.
Speaker 1: The thing is, here's the thing. You're gonna want to
Speaker 1: release at that handshake part when your hand is straight
Speaker 1: out in front of you, and you're gonna find nothing
Speaker 1: but heartache trying to throw a knife like that. Oh,
Speaker 1: if you release it right at the end, it goes,
Speaker 1: it'll go straight down, right, It'll go down in front
Speaker 1: of you. Because when you release an object that's going
Speaker 1: in an arc, it wants to go straight in a
Speaker 1: tangential line from the the the top of the arc. Right,
Speaker 1: that's right. So you want to release it at the
Speaker 1: top of the arc. That's right. So that is I
Speaker 1: was practicing just in the air, trying to to make
Speaker 1: my brain release it at the top. And that is
Speaker 1: really difficult to do because you think initially that the
Speaker 1: nicest gonna go shooting up into the air. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's gonna go straight. That's right. Pretty neat stuff, that's right.
Speaker 1: And this is just I don't even know what the
Speaker 1: traditional throw was called, you, I know, I didn't see
Speaker 1: a name for it. Well, there are some other throws
Speaker 1: which I might as well go ahead and mention I've teased.
Speaker 1: One is the aforementioned Thorn style from Ralph Thorne. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's named after a dude. Was named after a dude.
Speaker 1: Either way, it sounds cool. Yeah this one, Um, did
Speaker 1: you see this one at all? Inline? I didn't see
Speaker 1: that one. I kind of had an idea of what
Speaker 1: they were talking about based on the article. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: say that it resembles spear throwing. The action, um, I guess,
Speaker 1: and that you're you're not taking the knife like behind
Speaker 1: your ear. You're sort of just extending your whole arm
Speaker 1: and doing a big almost like you're throwing a baseball pitch. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's what I imagine. Yeah, that's what it sort of
Speaker 1: looked like, sort of like a bunch of people were
Speaker 1: doing it different. And then this guy's jumping all over
Speaker 1: behind his back like Thorne style seems to be two
Speaker 1: just do whatever you want. Okay, that's not true. Thorne's
Speaker 1: probably just like so angry right now he's Uh. Then
Speaker 1: there was the Russian style and this look it's a
Speaker 1: very compact um, the elbow is in near the body,
Speaker 1: you hold the knife behind the ear. Uh. And this
Speaker 1: I saw it was a little bit more like, you know,
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing. So that seems to me
Speaker 1: like depending on how close you're holding your elbow to
Speaker 1: your body, like you're gonna chop the top of your
Speaker 1: ear off. Well you want to avoid that, but it's
Speaker 1: it's more like you're pushing it out rather than throwing
Speaker 1: it like a tomahawk. So that's what I thought. Um
Speaker 1: mom you on style was like where you're basically like
Speaker 1: shoving the knife forward. Well what I saw with that style,
Speaker 1: and again all these videos were different, so I don't
Speaker 1: know if these people are just I mean, it is
Speaker 1: YouTube making it. It's not like they're like, I'm an
Speaker 1: accredited thornist. But the MoMu In style looks like they
Speaker 1: were having the knife like in their hand, like kind
Speaker 1: of in their palm and would throw it. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if that was because of the knife, because
Speaker 1: the guy on there was like, this is a bo
Speaker 1: bo hurrikan spike which is thrown in the MoMu in style.
Speaker 1: Then that's what this article said to people really get
Speaker 1: into this on online though, right, That's what I did discover.
Speaker 1: So the three the three things, those three types thorn style,
Speaker 1: mom you on, and Russian style. Those are all styles
Speaker 1: of knife throwing. Them all no spin. That's what the
Speaker 1: common thread that they all have. Yeah, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It is cool. And there's a couple of reasons you
Speaker 1: want to do this. The most knife throwers say that's
Speaker 1: really tough on the joints after a while, that's what
Speaker 1: they say. And um, the reason why is because it
Speaker 1: involves like doing crazy like snapping motions with your elbow
Speaker 1: and your wrist and stuff. Whereas with knife throwing it's
Speaker 1: just a smooth arc you're making it. Almost all of
Speaker 1: the motion is in your shoulder and your elbow, your
Speaker 1: wrist stays straight, and you just are generally releasing your
Speaker 1: grasp on the NiFe right into his ape all day long. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: With the no spin styles, it is, it's just tougher.
Speaker 1: It's more of a snapping motion. That's like you're gonna
Speaker 1: get tennis elbow after a while. The reason the advantage
Speaker 1: that these have is like, if you're trying to throw
Speaker 1: a knife through a hole, you can't have a twelve
Speaker 1: inch knife spinning making this twenty four inch arc basically
Speaker 1: or circle. Um, you just want to send it straight
Speaker 1: like a missile through that hole in to some dude's
Speaker 1: leg in his calf, and then you you pounce on him,
Speaker 1: put your hand over his mouth and nose until he
Speaker 1: falls asleep, and then you can advance further towards the castle. Well,
Speaker 1: the the Russian guy I saw was talking about the
Speaker 1: first thing you do is find the balance point. So
Speaker 1: he held out his finger and put the knife on
Speaker 1: it until, you know, like a little sea solid till
Speaker 1: he found the exact point. And he's like, there's a
Speaker 1: balance point. So once you find out where that is,
Speaker 1: that will teach you exactly how to hold it um
Speaker 1: in any in any scenario. Basically, I know where the
Speaker 1: balance point is though, So whatever you're doing, though, if
Speaker 1: if this sounds like something you want to do, whether
Speaker 1: it's spin throwing or no spin throwing techniques, the key
Speaker 1: to knife throwing of any kind is practice, practice, practice,
Speaker 1: And this article actually gives a really good piece of advice.
Speaker 1: It says, get a little set of throwing nives, the
Speaker 1: best you can afford, because the more expensive they are,
Speaker 1: typically with them, the better the more well made they are.
Speaker 1: And um, get some, get like I said, of three
Speaker 1: or five or whatever, because you're you're going to have
Speaker 1: to practice repeatedly. And if you have one knife and
Speaker 1: you're standing fifteen feet away, you throw it, you have
Speaker 1: to go get it. You throw it again and go
Speaker 1: get it. That's not nearly as fun as trying to
Speaker 1: throw like five quickly in a row. So you're number one,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be more entertained. Um. But also if you do,
Speaker 1: no matter how many knives you have, if you start
Speaker 1: to lose focus, if you start to get bored or frustrated,
Speaker 1: stop because if there's one thing about knife throwing, it's
Speaker 1: meant to be fun. And if you're practicing with your friends, uh,
Speaker 1: don't they don't stand to the side of the target.
Speaker 1: They don't stand directly behind you. UM. I would recommend
Speaker 1: they stand well behind you and well to one side
Speaker 1: of you. I've got one even better. Don't even don't
Speaker 1: even let your friends anywhere near you. You you have
Speaker 1: to be alone while you're practicing throwing knives, but you
Speaker 1: have to be in text or phone contact with your parents.
Speaker 1: We're watching you from a safe distance. Sing it to
Speaker 1: your parents. Maybe. So, Uh, you should go and look
Speaker 1: at some of these Ralph Thorn videos because the funnies,
Speaker 1: the funniest part is, uh, the almost um, not angry,
Speaker 1: but just his trudge towards the target afterward is very like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird. He'll jump up in the
Speaker 1: air and throw a few and then he's just like
Speaker 1: do do do and then walks over and undoes it
Speaker 1: from the log like I don't know. All the pizzazz
Speaker 1: leaves as soon as he's thrown. That's when you need.
Speaker 1: The pizzazz is during the throwing. The rest is just
Speaker 1: wasted energy. Yeah, but you don't see throw Deny. That's
Speaker 1: the difference between an impalement act and a dudeness backyard
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Well, throw DENI has the smarts to hire
Speaker 1: an editor to edit that part out. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: good point. I don't know if we said the great
Speaker 1: throw Denie's name. His name is David ed Amovitch and
Speaker 1: he's a neat guy. Great name. So if you want
Speaker 1: to know more about the great throw Deanie or what's
Speaker 1: what's Thorne's first name, Jesse Thorn, the other thing Ralph
Speaker 1: Ralph Thorn, or any kind of night throw and go
Speaker 1: go check out some videos. Again, do not do this
Speaker 1: unless your parents say it's okay, and do it safely.
Speaker 1: Don't be stupid and never ever throw any living thing
Speaker 1: ever of any kind ever, or Josh and Chuck are
Speaker 1: going to be so mad at you. Uh. And in
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