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Dolphins And welcome to the Drivetime podcast, part 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.640 of the Miami Dolphins podcast Network, covering your team, your 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.320 Miami Dolphins. We are back here for day number three, 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.440 the final day at the NFL Scouting Combine. From our coverage, 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.680 we're gonna tell to a bunch of more draft pundance 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.200 today on the podcast. We have Jordan Reid from ESPN, 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.959 Ben Solak from The Ringer, Trevor Sikama from Pro Football Focus, 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.160 and a heck of a lot more. Keep it locked 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.120 right here. We're not in the Baptist Health Studios. We 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.400 are in the Indiana Convention Center here from Indianapolis. This 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:23.400 is the Drivetime podcast. Let's go ahead and jump right 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.920 in first with my interview from Thursday morning with ESPNS 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.760 Jordan Read. What's up doll Fans? Back here again at 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.880 the scouting combine in Indianapolis, twenty twenty three. We're here 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.360 with ESPNS Jordan Reid. I think fifth or sixth or 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.040 seventh appearance on Drivetime. Now. How you doing, Jordan good Man. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:40.880 It's always a pleasure of being here. Looking forward to 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.200 having you on once again talking all things quarterbacks as 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.880 we do our resident quarterback here that we go on 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.160 the podcast annually. So we'll start with two. A tongue 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.200 of Blowa, who had a really breakout third season in 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.320 the NFL. What did you see from his development that 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.680 really encouraged you for his career going forward? What was 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.120 a lot and what I like that Miami Dia was 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.920 they not only got the coach in the building, but 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.960 they surrounded him with a lot of weapons to bringing 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.680 over Tyreek Hill Jalen Waddle already being there, and then 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.960 involving Mike get Ski in the offense a little bit 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.520 more too. So I mean, he showed some promise and 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.640 that's what we wanted to see from to it entering 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.200 the year that he did. But I think getting those 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.440 guys really helped him a lot attack in the middle 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.000 of the field and then of course taking those deep 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.040 shots down the field of Tyreek Hill. So I really 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:20.359 like what I saw from me. Yeah, he had the 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.799 level league and an average depth of target. I think 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.160 had the most accurate deep passing perce Ange last year. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:26.600 So really kind of check some of the boxes that 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.520 maybe folks were concerned about, is there something he can 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.280 do next or take his game to the next level, 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.959 because he really, you know, came out of the gates hot, 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.000 played super well. We had that little bit of a 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.040 lull some losses in a row. There had the injuries 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:39.480 as well. But what do you think he can do 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.000 to just just take this game to the next level 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.560 and you're number four. Protecting himself, Yeah, that's the big one. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.079 Learning to slide, not being so competitive as a runner, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.440 but that's just too He's always been that way ever 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.400 since he was back at Alabama. Just learning how to 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.680 slide and protect himself, that's number one. But also getting 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.880 outside of the run pass option a little bit and 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.920 being more progression based. And I know Mike McDaniel's offense 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.239 is heavy RPO late, but I think they need to 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.480 let him experiment a little bit as far as progressions, 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.480 you know, going from one to two, reading right to left, left, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.320 the right, little things like that. You know how that goes. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.360 How difficult is I for a quarterback, for a competitor 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.720 to not go for extra yardage, to just think about 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.440 himself in the long term compared to one particular play 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.359 at the time, like I would imagine for you, it's like, no, 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.720 I'm getting those yards. Yeah, it's tough just because you 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.720 get so used to doing these types of things. And 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.600 he did at Alabama too, But defensive coordinators they get 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.920 paid a lot of money too, so they kind of 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.280 with Mike McDaniel's offense. And he's gonna learn this as 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.600 he gets more seasoned as a head coach, and that 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.160 you have to develop a little bit more with their 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.080 scheme outside of being so heavy RPO, being more progression based, 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.000 and then just getting Tyreek Hill and jay Len watt 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.160 On those guys a little bit more involved in the 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.720 progression based design of the quarterbacks. You can kind of 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.920 expect a natural progression just from being in the second 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.920 year of the offense. Yeah, I think so. And then 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.320 you know, like I say, with quarterback, being a formal quarterback, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.800 it's like learning a new language when you're learning a 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.000 new verbiage with this playbook, relaying plays and then also 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.160 understanding what you have to do as well as well 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.400 as the other ten guys on the field. So him 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.480 now being in year two in the offense, I expect 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.720 him to ascend a little bit more. Yeah, we hope. So. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.360 I mean last year was a lot of fun to watch, 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.080 but um, you know, I think for the Dolphins order 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.440 to really capture what they can maximize their offense, they're 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:14.920 gonna have to add some more pieces of this year. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.400 How about in this year's draft class pick number fifty two, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:18.960 a couple of picks in the third round. How do 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.880 you think Miami can address and improve their offense in 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.160 this year's draft offensive line? Just because I think they 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.520 have to protect to him obviously with this situation and 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.840 everything that he has with guard, I think guard is 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.920 an area where they could look to address. Cody Mock 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.839 from North Dakota State, I think he's going to be 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.520 a popular name for Dolphins fans Steve Avila from TCU. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.080 He's another one that I think would be a really 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.320 good fit for them as well. And then also tight end. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.039 I think this is one of the best classes that 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.080 we have seen in quite a long time, So I 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.880 think we could see as many as six or seven 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.760 guys go inside of the top two or three rounds. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.600 So I think they could explore sight end as well. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.360 Life of Cody Mock because the whole like teethless, looks 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.560 like asia he really does. It seems like every year 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.040 at the Senior Bowl we get a player like that. 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.840 Last year is Quinn Minor. It's right, the belly coming 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.880 the jersey. It's just always fun to watch those guys 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.080 kind of have their moment in the sun after playing 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.880 small school football for so long. So let's let's keep 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.360 talking about the offense a little bit. Because you talk 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.680 about tight ends, let's let's focus on that position. Is 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.320 there anybody that you think really kind of can play 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.320 all three phases from day once? No, for the tight 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.680 end position, it's tough to learn because run blocking, pass, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.400 pro pass routes, it's a lot to learn. Right, Is 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.840 there a player that you think can come in right 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:24.679 away in this year's class and just make an immediate 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.719 impact that There's three that I like for the Dolphins, 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:30.000 and the first one is Darniel Washington. Yeah, with you 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:31.920 know the outside zone scheme that they like to run. 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.480 He's an extra offensive tackle when he's on the field. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.640 And then he's also an underrated pass catcher too. And 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.840 I know Rock Bowers is the player that a lot 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.080 of people glorify with Georgia, and rightfully so, he's a 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.960 great player. But Darnel Washington made that offense go at 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.039 the tight end position from a run game perspective, So 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.760 he's one that I would keep an eye on. Luke 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:49.919 Musgrave from Oregon State who was a bit banged up 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.680 last year. But you talk about somebody that's might get 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.320 sickty type of player from an athletic standpoint, I think 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.159 he's won than the last one that's took a craft 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.080 From South Dakota State, he's another one that was a 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.279 little bit hurt last year, but he's very first of 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:02.800 as far as a blocker in a pass catch, I 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.359 haven't heard that name so far. So where do you 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.280 think he goes off the boarder? I think second and 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.200 third round. I think that's a sweet spot for him, 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.279 So they're probably gonna have to take him in round 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:11.680 too if they want him. Yeah, I think he's going 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:13.600 to be a popular name, especially after he tests here. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.120 They come by, you're not kidding about the tight end 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.320 class being loaded, and you know Darniel Washington. I get 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:18.839 a kick out of his tape because, like there's blocks 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.880 where he clears out dbs like with a forearm, sugar. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.719 It's the craziest thing I've ever seen on tape. And 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.080 then you have a six seven target in the red 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:25.960 zone too. I'm a huge fan of his game. Let's 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.760 go ahead and pivot and get off just Dolphins topics 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.560 here for a second again, having Jordan Reeve, we're gonna 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.400 talk quarterbacks. Four big quarterbacks this year. I think a 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.039 lot of folks think that when there's not a lot 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.080 of quarterbacks like last year at the top of the class, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.400 they call it a boring class. I don't always agree 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.279 with that. Yeah, but this year you have a fun 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.440 class and you have some sizle hith the quarterback position. 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.200 How do you kind of stack those top four guys? 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.720 So I have a bright shown quarterback from Alabama Number one, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.720 C J. Strout of Ohio State two, Anthony Richardson from 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.320 Florida three, and then Will Levis four, and all those 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.560 guys have different flaws in their game, just like any 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.520 other year with quarterbacks. Bryce obviously you're gonna hear about 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.040 the size with him, We'll see what he does end 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.200 up measuring at jay is just can he consistently play 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.800 off script and can he make offensive coordinators right and 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:06.760 when they call the wrong play? But we saw the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.080 Grand Finale against Georgia where he had one of the 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.240 best games of his career. And then the other two 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.480 guys are going to be labeled as project, So all 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.200 those guys have their flaws. Is just going to be 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.280 which one you're most comfortable with. So I'm really curious 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:18.680 to kind of dive into that because I think it's 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:23.120 a good juxtaposition for traits drafting with Levis and Richardson 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.640 and probably Bryce Young to an extent to Stroud, who's 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.320 more about polished pocket passing. Right, How do you think 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.400 the NFL is kind of going in terms of that direction? 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.920 Like Stroud has obviously a lot of value, but our 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.120 teams may be going more towards, like you said, the 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.120 project because of like Josh Allen because of what Patrick 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.239 Mahomes has become. Yeah. Absolutely, and you just have to think. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.040 I think the game is catering more towards mobility at 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.679 the position just because those guys like Payton, then Eli 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.640 Man named Philip Rivers on Tom Brady to an extent, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.320 they just weren't very mobile outside of the pocket. So 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.120 now you have to get those guys that are more 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.280 mobile and able to create outside of structure, just because 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.800 those guys on the defensive side, they're only getting better 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.600 as far as athletes. So you're seeing guys like Joe Burrow, 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.640 justin Herbert, these guys that are really good athletes. So 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.240 and also another great thing about the mobility is that 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.720 you have that in your back pocket while the mental 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.720 side of the game is catching up to that part 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.960 of the game too. So the game is catering more 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.200 to the mobile aspect of these quarterbacks. Russell Wilson because 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:19.720 his name that comes to mind earlier his career, right, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.800 the mobility and kind of just scrambling and making plays 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.840 happening out there in Seattle. So any other first round 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.760 quarterbacks you like, the shares are give me those four guys. 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.080 I think those are the four right now. After that, 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.720 you're gonna hear names like Hendon Hooker from ucl excuse 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.800 me from Tennessee, Dorian Thompson Robinson from UCLA, and then 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.280 also Tanner McKee from Stanford and you guys on day 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:38.760 three that you think might be good projects that could 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.719 potentially be that, uh, I guess your property. Yeah, Jake 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.200 Hanner from Fresno State. He was one that was really 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.400 impressive down to the Senior Bowl. Kind of has that 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.680 Taylor Taylor Heineke case keenom type to his game. He 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.880 just has great moxie. He just makes everybody believe and 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.160 he doesn't have the most He's not the most physically 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.040 gifted guy. He's only about six foot one, two hundred 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.280 and ten pounds at best. But I think he just 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.120 has that couriers one that you love to see at 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.840 the position. It's a valuable spot if you can get 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.280 a back, a quarterback that lay in the draft, so 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.200 he'll look out for that. Let's go to the other 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.080 side of the ball here in defense real quick, just 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.160 kind of generally speaking about the Dolphins needs this year. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.680 Obviously a shifting scheme towards Vic Fangio, who do you 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.600 like that could be there at pick fifty two to 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.040 improve this Dolphins defense. Yeah, well, there's a lot of 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.120 positions of need for the Dolphins right now. I think 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.000 linebacker is one where I think they could get a 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.480 little bit better at. Cornerback is another area, and then 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.000 also safety. So he's not going to be there for 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.880 the Dolphins in the second round, but Brian Branch would 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.600 be one that would be a really good fit. As 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.800 far as cornerback, Darius Rust from South Carolina, I think 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.360 he's one that would be a great fit for Vic Fangio. 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:40.120 So what do you try to look for in a 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.079 cornerback in a Vic Fangio defense, Because, like I was 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:43.679 going back over some of the additions he made in 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.160 Denver and there really wasn't like a protype that he 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.000 went after. Do you think there's something that he particularly 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.280 looks at. Well, it's tough es basically for us trying 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.120 to develop trends just because we're not in that draft room. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.400 We don't know exactly the characteristics are the traits that 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.720 they're looking for. But we can always identify the scheme 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.520 that Vic runs, which is heavy man coverage and guys 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.439 that are really smart and love to tackle. So that's 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.559 why I said guys like Darius Rush Eli Ricks from Alabama. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.920 I think those type of guys they're gonna cater to 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.800 big Ski. Well, you play a lighter boxes, you gotta 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.360 be able to tackle on the back end, right, So 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.840 let's talk about that the box portion of the linebacker position. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.920 Who do you like as an off ball linebacker for 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.360 the defense? Yeah, this is a really interesting class just 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.760 because we don't have that bona fide number one guy 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.160 at the top. There's no Roquan Smith, there's no guys 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.120 like that. But Daan Henley from Washington State maybe he's 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.439 one that I like a lot. Ivan Paced junior from Cincinnati. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.480 He's kind of a chess piece on that second level 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.240 that you can move around a lot. And then also 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.200 Jack Campbell from Iowa, He's one that I like a 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.160 lot too. It's stuff very good. Jordan Reid, ESPN, What 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.600 are you guys working on right now? Anything coming up? 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.080 A bunch of mock drafts, a bunch of draft discussions 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:44.880 right now as far as what we're gonna do right now. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.760 But I have a mock draft, a seven round mock 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.439 draft coming out at the end of this month. So 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.680 be on the lookout for Devin rounds all two hundred 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.560 and fifty six picks. There you go, Jordan Reid espen 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.800 think every time today, make you for always, Travis and 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.480 away he goes. Very good stuff there from Jordan Reed 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.439 as always interesting takes on quarterback position, how he kind 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.599 of approach this thing from his experience as a D 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.120 two quarterback along the way. Always good perspective there from 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.120 Jordan the future lead draft analysts at ESPN. He is 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.920 in line to when mel Kiper moves on. Jordan is 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.360 the guy so very excited about him in his future, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.720 his career. Let's go ahead and take our first break 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:20.560 right here. We're going to come back on the other side. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.599 I did about fifteen minutes with PFFS Trevor Sikama. Great conversation. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.160 Keep it tuned right here, Drivetime Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:37.520 brought to you by Auto Nation. Back here in Indianapolis 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.840 for a segment number two on the Thursday edition of 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.800 the Drivetime Podcast. As promised, let's go ahead and get 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.080 to my chat with PF's Trevor Sikama. What's up, doll 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.560 fins Back here once again at the scouting Combine in 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.679 Indianapolis twenty twenty three. Heare with Pro Football Focus is 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.000 Trevor Sikama. Trevor, how you doing some I'm doing great, man. 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.839 It's always good to be with you. Always good to 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.920 be in Indianapolis is one of our favorite times a year, man. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.439 So I'm excited to talk to some ball. We change 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:00.920 locations for the first time with you. We've got the 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:02.960 podiums here in the background. Players are wrapped up for 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.480 the day. I think dbs are officially done, so moving 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.200 on to offense. But let's go ahead and go back 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.480 to like the idea of roster building, because this is 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.360 kind of the time of year where you talk about 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.079 approaches and how teams do things. Definitely that's always fascinated 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:15.840 to me. And we've seen the Dolphins kind of on 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.440 this cycle of aggressive with draft picks and young players, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.480 and then last year it was the veteran trade market, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.160 veteran free agent market. What's next for the Dolphins on 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.120 our building? Yeah, I mean not to have a cop 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:27.960 out answer, but it's got to be a decent mix 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.760 of both. You want to invest in those players. But 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.760 the Dolphins kind of proved this year that they are 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.920 that team that is on a playoff path, right, and 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.920 so anytime that's the case, then if you see your 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.800 winning window, or if you were in your winning window, 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.440 then it does make sense to say, hey, we've got 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.480 a little extra draft capitaler or sorry, we've got a 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.320 little extra salary cap, let's go make a little splash 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.920 here and there where we need to. Obviously, building the 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.679 team in the most healthy way always comes through the draft. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.680 It comes through drafting players well, developing them well, getting 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.000 them those second contracts. But there's no doubt about it. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:57.640 When you get to a point where you think, hey, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.280 we're right there, we've got a good roster already, you 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.040 do start to sprinkle in a lot of those freees. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:03.920 So maybe not as big of a splash as we 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.560 saw last season with guys like Thrown and Tyree coming in, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.680 but I do think that they're in a position where 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.240 they can take that next step with having a good 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.600 mix of both of those guys. I'm a big fan 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.800 of using those late twenties picks on Tyree Kill because 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.520 where you gonna get a receiver about on Tyreek Kill 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.199 that spot, No you're not. You're gonna get a better 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.640 edge than Bradley Chubb and the twenty nine. I think 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.320 you were so I like that approach a lot, and 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.760 so you're i think interviewed number nine or ten of 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.600 the week. I've asked this question a lot and I 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.120 get the same mansions. I'm not gonna ask you the 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.320 same question, but it's what can the Dolphins do to 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.839 improve the most on offense? And it's always the running game. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.160 What's the next step in the running game? So I'm 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.120 gonna ask you how do they do that? How do 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.319 they improve the running game? Up front? I'm gonna selling 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.840 it like an old school coach, but it is. It's upfront, 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.760 and I feel like the Dolphins have you mentioned draft capital, 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.480 free agents, they have tried to get guys in there 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.600 to figure out what that best five is and I 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.800 still feel like they have pieces, but they it's solidifying 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.680 those guys in the right positions to where they are 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.800 all a total cohesive unit, and I think that that 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.800 is still something that's missing for them. I know people 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.680 like to talk about like, oh, let's add a great 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.120 bag in the draft, and especially there's a lot of 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.880 really exciting ones in this class, and I'm sure we're 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.600 going to talk about but before you get to those guys, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.040 or you know, even after you get to those guys, 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:10.839 you have to make sure the guys up front are 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.160 doing their job. That unit is first and foremost the priority, 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.320 because then you get into the point where a lot 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.920 of people talk about running backs like, oh, you can 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.520 get them in all shapes and sizes and get them 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.920 anywhere in the draft. That only works if you solidify 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:24.800 the offensive line first. So that definitely has to be 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.920 the priority. How confident they are with the guys that 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.600 they have where they want to make their additions, That 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.640 would be my answer to that, kind of like Philadelphia, right, 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.440 you have an offensive dentody around, Yes, do you think 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:34.680 you could have run for a thousand yards in that 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.080 bad field? I don't think I could have run for 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.120 a thousand yards, but I mean, like maybe you know 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.640 the three yards before contact? Sure, I could probably do 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.960 that before you get right right right. It'd be like 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.360 two total plays most, but I'd suit up for it. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.160 So that's what we're looking for here. So we have 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:49.920 I think a good chunk of that offensive line. But 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.200 there's obviously I think every team's looking every year for 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.600 additional offensive lineman. Who do you like in this year's 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.200 class right around that day to range from Miamiyah. I mean, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:58.840 I think there's a lot of guys, especially on the 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.960 interior when I look at my He's offensive line that 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.520 could use the versatility Steve a Vila from TCU as 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.800 somebody who I really like play really well during the 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.680 Senior Bowl. I mean, a guy like John Michael Schmidtz 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.480 I think is probably OT one in a lot of 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.320 people's minds from Minnesota, brings a nastiness and a good 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.400 mentality there to them. I'm sure that they would love 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.560 to get their hands on a guy like say Osires Torrens. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.280 I just don't think he's going to be available for 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.200 them in the second round. So, I mean, those are 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.520 two that really pop out to me immediately as guys 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.640 that can play a lot of different spots along the 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.000 interior offensive line and play it really really well. So 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.840 they are guys who we saw in Mobile. They had 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.400 really great Senior Bowls. They solidified themselves I think as 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.680 those second round kind of players. So those are two 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.200 names that I'd definitely be that would definitely be on 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:39.880 my raider for the doll You're a Start Interview today 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.160 Steve A. Villa by Jordan Reed, Ben Saleck, and yourself 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.520 all been mentioned first off the board. There's the same 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.000 company once anytime. That's true too, that's true too. Maybe 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.800 it's a little hive mind between us and we still 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.960 don't even know it. Some what's the subliminal group think there? Yes, 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:56.960 you guys, yes, at the offensive line position. Let's talking 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.040 about tight end and running back because Ben also mentioned 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.000 the extra you know, wy tight end could be a 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.240 big benefit from Miami in this show's class. I don't 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:04.600 know if you've see it in the same way. Who 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.360