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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Elliot flowing to the goal line. And

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Speaker 1: now your hosts, I say a stand back, Patrick Walker

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's. Today is Tuesday, March seventh, and we

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Speaker 1: welcome you into a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We are back inside the SWB Studios, SWBC Studios.

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Speaker 1: I left the sea off there. It's okay, No, got

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Speaker 1: it done, No see okay, and then Patrick walked over BC.

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Speaker 1: We'll allow that. Yeah, well we'll let that one happen

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Speaker 1: when we got the big logo up over my left

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Speaker 1: shoulder here anyway, so it works out that way. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: how we doing, Isaiah? Stand back? Patrick? No see Walker,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomance. We've got Chris Beam in the back. I

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Speaker 1: missed you guys. Yeah, I missed you too. Bro. That

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Speaker 1: was indieman, as I say, we didn't have a chance

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Speaker 1: to miss each other yet. Train station that you got

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Speaker 1: might have stiff armed Patrick one time, like while we

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Speaker 1: didn't even know. We were just trying to get out there,

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Speaker 1: and I might have elbowed them a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: It probably happened, and I probably returned the favor. If not, yeah,

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Speaker 1: twice by accident, so I had already passed by and

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Speaker 1: you just hit the guy behind me. You know, we

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Speaker 1: gotta get in there. We gotta talk to these prospects.

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Speaker 1: We got to see who the Cowboys who are interested in,

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Speaker 1: who they haven't yet to show interesting. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: trying to build our own version of the Cowboys big board. Yep.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I gotta get in there. And we'll

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Speaker 1: talk plenty of draft today. We'll talk about our takeaways

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Speaker 1: from the NFL combine. We may even hear a story

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Speaker 1: or two of Isaiah's combine. By the time this show

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Speaker 1: is people said, and they don't understand how much goes

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Speaker 1: into them understanding. It's a long week, man. Because it's

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Speaker 1: a long week. Most people see what they see the

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Speaker 1: last day of these guys. Yeah, scouting day. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the stuff that people see on TV. What they don't

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Speaker 1: see is all the medical checks. But they don't see

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Speaker 1: they don't see is the late night meetings on your

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Speaker 1: little card that you have, your little lanyard on your

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Speaker 1: five six different teams every night and talk to them

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Speaker 1: strenuous work that's done. Oh and then wake up that

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Speaker 1: day and put out your best performance that's gonna either

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Speaker 1: mean it's a lot that goes into it. Guys are drained,

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Speaker 1: So it's just it's really a drawn out week. And

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Speaker 1: But you're like that foot was yell. That foot was

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Speaker 1: I was talking to my agent. I was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: There's one specific team, and I was like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Oh, those Dolphins doctors. And then and then

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Speaker 1: they flew me in four or four business pre draft visit.

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Speaker 1: on Sunday week. It had been going. We were there

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Speaker 1: was much better watch it on TV. It's so much

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Speaker 1: it's few line blue. He gets rud Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: loved it. Yeah, you feel it, you feel just you

427
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: don't get that from an electric five colors and stuff.

428
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: So question for you guys, Yeah, was there anybody at

429
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: the combine that just ran up your board? A couple guys.

430
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith definitely ran He ran up the board, he

431
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: ran off the board, he ran past the board. I

432
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: don't even know. I mean a four three nine as

433
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: an edge rusher out of Georgia, that dude moving there

434
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: was a slim hole slim, hope, and by slim, I

435
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: mean super slim. That he was gonna fall the twenty

436
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 1: six ads out the window. No, he on, he's a lock.

437
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna go grab four three nine bro faster than

438
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley, faster than Christian McCaffrey. And he's an edge rusher.

439
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: Did Darnell run up your board? And he a little bit.

440
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: I liked what he did on the sleds because that

441
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: was kind of man. He man, did you just exploded

442
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: through the Yeah, So I liked what he did there.

443
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: Hands are still a big time question. But man, as

444
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: a blocker, he could be fun. Not at twenty six,

445
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: don't give in no, no, no, no no. If he's

446
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: there at fifty eight, I would early day two people, Yeah,

447
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: I would consider if it's in the if he's in

448
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: the third round. Sometimes somehow he slips because of the

449
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: hands or because of the worriedness of the size. He's

450
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Speaker 1: six foot seven for all those listening, tight end, uh

451
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: six foot seven tight end. If he if he's there

452
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: at fifty eight, I'm okay with it. If he's there

453
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: in the third round, I will I will run to

454
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City to put the card in and know that

455
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: it's not a bet. I'm not actually gonna do that. So,

456
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: but you know a position I'm looking at. What are

457
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: you looking at? Interior O line? Was there any dogs

458
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: on interior old line? I know it's not a popular

459
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: position to watch the comb I was about to say,

460
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: it's not really a position that pops. That's like a

461
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl position where those guys really jump out. Cody

462
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: mock Out of North Dakota State was one of those guys,

463
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: did Cyrus Terrence. Though Torrence did play out of Florida Sirens.

464
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: Torrence he measured in where he needed to. His playing

465
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: weight in the season was three forty six. That was

466
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: his playing weight at the Senior Bowl he was at

467
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: three thirty seven. Now he's down the three thirty at

468
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: the combine and that's what's going to be the official

469
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: weight on everything. It's three thirty. That is a still

470
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Speaker 1: a massive that is that is good momentum. I mean

471
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: he's lost sixteen pounds and he looked better in the

472
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: combine than he did even in the Senior Bowl just

473
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: a couple of months or about a month and a

474
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: half prior. And oh, by the way, he confirmed he

475
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: had a formal meeting with the Cowboys. Yes he did.

476
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: So there's also that, yeah, keeping I remember how was

477
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: tellus about it a little bit of pressure mcgriddle or

478
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: some salt president or not. No, I used to take

479
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: this mcgriddle. It was it with some salt and let

480
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: me see how you react. That's where they were trying

481
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: to get you to win. I was so just I

482
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: don't know, just blown in to win at that time

483
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: because my drafts, my draft stock was in limbo. I

484
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: didn't know what position I was gonna get drafted. Ass

485
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: um I played quarterback, but people wanted me at a

486
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: thousand other positions. I was coming off a foot injury, right,

487
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: a really bad foot injury. I didn't know if I

488
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: was gonna get drafted. But they didn't make your day

489
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: one day two you know, I didn't know. I didn't know.

490
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: I had zero idea. There was so much speculation as

491
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: to what could have happened had I ran my forty.

492
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean that would I'd have been gone, you know,

493
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'd been way up there. Um, So it

494
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: was just it was you front. I asked my track coach.

495
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: I literally because after I saw that the Florida Florida

496
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: player quarterback run his time, I sent it to my

497
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: Cothy Richardson. Yeah, I sent it to my coach, my

498
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: coach that you would have ran a low four two

499
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: a four two where he ran ten nine in one hundred.

500
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: I ran ten four low four two. I'm telling what

501
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: that's like. That's like record set. I mean John Ross

502
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: holds the record. Yeah. Yeah, I'm Doug ye Hey, but

503
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 1: we're went about fifteen years after you did very much,

504
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: and he was a lot smaller to me, Yes he was, Hey,

505
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: but which you have a longer career. Yeah, that's no. No,

506
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: he's back. Where's he now? Kansas City? That's right. He's

507
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: on their practice squad right now. They signed him to

508
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: a futures contracts to be a problem. They always revive people. Yeah,

509
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: here he goes. But we were talking about the game

510
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: of tag. Yeah, let's talk about the tag freeze tag.

511
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: I love tag. Yeah. Is this a freeze tag or

512
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: is this a warm up for something to come? Well,

513
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: my understanding and my expectation before they placed the tag.

514
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: And for those that may not know, the Cowboys officially

515
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: placed the franchise tag on running back Tony Pollard on yesterday,

516
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: one day ahead of the NFL deadline, which is today

517
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: at four pm Eastern time. That's going to buy the

518
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys until July fourteenth or fifteenth to negotiate a long

519
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: term deal. And I expect that's what this is for.

520
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: I expect that they are looking to get a long

521
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: term It is a placeholder in my estimation. You talk

522
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: to Jerry Jones at the combine. Jerry Jones basically said,

523
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: we have, quote, we have big plans for Tony Pollard

524
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: in quote. Obviously you hear something like that from the

525
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: owner and general manager. Nothing about that indicates it's a

526
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: one year situation, right. They want Tony Pollard here for

527
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: the long term, just a matter of getting it done

528
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: if they can prior to July. But what it does

529
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: do is keep other teams from being able to negotiate

530
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: with Tony Pollard. Why old The Cowboys are trying to

531
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: do their own negotiations. And that's the big part, because

532
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: you did bubble. Yeah, you did not want Tony Pollard

533
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: to hit the open market. And I realized that some

534
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: people were saying, well, you know, you're guarantee worst case,

535
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: you're fully guaranteeing him ten point one million dollars for

536
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three with him coming off of an injury.

537
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: But keep in mind, yes, they're with some you know,

538
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: ligament damage that needed to be repaired in his ankle,

539
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: but the primary injury was a broken fibula that can

540
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: heal set easily. I don't I don't even expect that

541
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: he'd be he'd start training camp on the physically unable

542
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: to perform a list. I'd be surprised if he did so.

543
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, obviously, you know, it's their medical staff, which

544
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: I've said this before, I'll say it again, the best

545
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: in the world, the best in the world. And if

546
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: that medical staff looked at Tony Pollard's injury and the

547
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: recovery time and all of the data and looked over

548
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: at Jerry Jones and Will mcclan, Stephen Jones and say,

549
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, ball means you should be totally fine with

550
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: at least ten million dollars for this guy. Then who

551
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: am I or anyone to sit back and say, oh, well,

552
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: we have concerns, show me your license. You know, I

553
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: have more faith in this training staff than probably time

554
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: with them. Do you think that there may be a

555
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: little hesitation now when they speak about the health and

556
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: projection of the return of Tony Pollard and where he

557
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: comes back to based upon what for the front office

558
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: saw from Michael Gallot this year. Different injury, It's absolutely

559
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: different injury. The same thing was Zeke. Different injury because

560
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people are comparing it to totally different

561
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: All three situations are very unique in our own right.

562
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: With Tony, I'm not as worried because it's a fractured foot, ankle, shin,

563
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: so it's a fracture, it's not a ligament, so it's

564
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: easier to heal, and it's quicker to heal. And I mean,

565
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Patrick was going back and forth with some people on

566
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: Twitter yesterday made me laugh. I actually giggled a little

567
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: bit while we were getting ready for a broadcast. Thank

568
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: you and he screenshot at the date He's screenshot and

569
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: he quote tweeted somebody who was who was having some

570
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: trouble talking about Tony Pollard and his return. It's March seventh,

571
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, we're in March like trading camp. They

572
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: don't report for training kids until July twenty five. We're okay.

573
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there. I have no issues.

574
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I don't think there's any worry. But

575
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, there's a lot of faith,

576
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, given to that, to that department, and Michael

577
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Gallup did not come back the way that I know

578
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: that this team. You're right, right, So I wonder if

579
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: there's any any little crack in the armor there in

580
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: terms of your faith in regards to their expertise. I don't.

581
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't have any, though, I'm saying, like that's just

582
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: a natural feeling, right, It's like, hey, you said Michael

583
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: Gallup's gonna be good. The reason I say no is this,

584
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: and you make a valid point. But it's injury versus

585
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: timing as well. So the injuries are wildly different. It's

586
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: a broken bone versus a torn acl massively different things.

587
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: But also look at the timing of when the injuries

588
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: occurred and when the players are coming back Tony Pollard Again,

589
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: as as Kyles stated, as screenshot it. What is today's date,

590
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: right you? It's March and early March at that for

591
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: you have between March and the start of training camp,

592
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: let alone September, which is when regular season kicks off. Yeah, okay,

593
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: So even if they wanted to take it easy and

594
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: be more deliberate and cautious and training, wouldn't see he's

595
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: not a Yeah, first and foremost, Tony Pollard is not

596
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: stepping onto the field four preseasons now. So if the

597
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys played it more judiciously, and that means you probably

598
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect him to be on the field until week one.

599
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: So now you're talking about between the injury itself happening

600
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: in mid January to early September. A fractured bone, no concern.

601
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: But to the Michael Michael Gallup point, I guess the

602
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: counterpoint would be, if he was with another team, would

603
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: he have even come back as soon as he did? So,

604
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: would he have been able to come back in October?

605
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it was November with another team, maybe December, maybe

606
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: that training staff with you know, the hypothetical team says,

607
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: you know what, you just gotta you gotta sit this out. Yeah,

608
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: I understand, And they do an amazing job, and they

609
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys that they have the nurse

610
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: back every offseason, sure, right, including this offseason. Looking back

611
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: at Michael Gallup in the development that he had and

612
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: knowing that he wasn't who we thought he would be,

613
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: what would you have done differently? I think Gallups was

614
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: more of a confidence thing. I mean, he said it himself.

615
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: I remember specifically a conversation I had with him about

616
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: two weeks out of his return, and he specifically kept

617
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: pointing to the mental aspect of it. He said, you know,

618
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: I could make I could run all the routes. I'm

619
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: not getting any soreness in my knee when I'm out

620
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: there practicing. I just have to get more confident with

621
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: feeling like when I go up to high point this

622
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: ball that when I come down, I'm gonna be okay.

623
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: And you know, because somebody talked about that before. Who

624
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: might have been I think it was the Talking Cowboys show.

625
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah that show. Well yet brother with long hair,

626
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I did say it about that. The

627
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: mental side, Yeah, that's that's the biggest hurdle to overcome.

628
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: It really really is. And that was my concern with

629
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: Dallas giving him as big a contract as they did,

630
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: not knowing if that aspect was being accounted, because exactly

631
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: you can exactly that that's that's that was my concern. Though.

632
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: Physically you're going to get back from these injuries. Right,

633
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: technology has come a long way. Medical staffs are amazing,

634
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Right resources are amazing. Physically can be accounted for. The

635
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: mental is what can account one to kind of because

636
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: of training staff has no no jurisdiction on that. That's

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Speaker 1: what the player has to bring exactly. And you think

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Speaker 1: about some of the other players that have come in

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Speaker 1: and either been evaluated or are already here and have

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Speaker 1: been injured and they've moved on from this. Training staff

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Speaker 1: knows how to tell the front office No. Yeah, in

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Speaker 1: tough situations, I don't want to throw names out there

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Speaker 1: free agents that they've turned away a specific in house.

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Speaker 1: What about Lyle Collins. Lyle Collins after the hip injury

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Speaker 1: was never the same. That's a hard decision. They saw

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Speaker 1: him trending in the right direction prior to the injury

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Speaker 1: at right tackle, thought he was going to be here

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Speaker 1: for five to six, maybe seven or eight years. Not

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Speaker 1: the case he got hurt, never was the same. This

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Speaker 1: training staff went out and said, hey, there's an opportunity

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Speaker 1: here to maybe upgrade because Terrence steals in the wings.

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Speaker 1: We don't think that this training stat or this injury

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Speaker 1: is going to really be the same, and it never

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Speaker 1: really was. So because of that they moved on from

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins and has worked out such similar valuable similar

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Speaker 1: to organization. Another example had some some high hopes for

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Speaker 1: him that he'd be the you know, field stretching making

658
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Speaker 1: tight end Um suffers the twin acl comes back from that,

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Speaker 1: it's not really the same. But when he suffered that

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Speaker 1: hip injury, this training staff looked at the front office

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Speaker 1: and said, this isn't gonna He won't come back from

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Speaker 1: this and be anywhere near the same guy, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: I mean down the road. You know, you have to

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Speaker 1: hope the best for a guy like that. But in

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Speaker 1: the conversation of will it's the training staff not only

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Speaker 1: have the worldwidthal to look Jerry Jones in the face

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Speaker 1: and say you got to come off this guy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we have example But that's that's the thing. Is this.

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Speaker 1: None of this and none of what we're saying is

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Speaker 1: breaking news. That was known about Lyell, that was known

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Speaker 1: about Blake Jarwin, I was known about plenty of other

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Speaker 1: free agents in the in the market that never got

674
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Speaker 1: signed because this training staff wasn't comfortable. But all of

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Speaker 1: that is to say, if this training staff looked at

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard and they had any sort of reserve on

677
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Speaker 1: him and his injury, they would have said it instead.

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Speaker 1: You here, I have the tag here, and the tag

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not guaranteed he's playing for ten point

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Speaker 1: nine million this year, one ten point one, ten point one,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. Yeah, at ten point nine, ten point

682
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Speaker 1: one this year. It's instead and guarantees he's a cowboy

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Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty three. But the second thing it

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Speaker 1: does is it allows for the conversation to continue. I

685
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Speaker 1: think both parties, and I've said this on this show before,

686
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Speaker 1: both parties can benefit from a long term deal. Tony

687
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: Pollard wants multiple years. He wants to be here so

688
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Speaker 1: he can benefit. Dallas wants multiple years. They can benefit

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Speaker 1: from having Tony Pollard here. So I think by that deadline,

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Speaker 1: which is April fifteenth, I believe for the long term

691
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Speaker 1: dealers did July fifteen, so even further, you now have

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Speaker 1: that window of opportunity to have those two contract talks,

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Speaker 1: those negotiations to find a deal, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, the cap hits not nearly as much. You

695
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Speaker 1: don't actually have to sign the franchise tag, and then

696
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Speaker 1: you're moving on and you're moving forward with one of

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Speaker 1: your best as it's it's a much more positive and

698
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: optimistic conversation between Tony Pollard and the Dallas Cowboys organization

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Speaker 1: over what if we're doing a direct comparison, And recently

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Speaker 1: we talked about Dalton Scholtz. Last season felt like there

701
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Speaker 1: was a bit of contention there, yeah, right, especially after

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Speaker 1: because the deal hadn't been done yet. You know, go back,

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00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: you can see the history of it. But the Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard situation is everybody wants it done. Tony wants to

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Speaker 1: be here, the Cowboys want Tony to be here. The

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00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys are trying to keep the tandem together between Polot

711
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Speaker 1: and Zeke. And that becomes the next question because now

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Speaker 1: you guarantee that Tony will be here. Question now becomes

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Speaker 1: what can be done to financially make it palatable for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys to keep both Tony Pollard and Zekiel Elliott

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Speaker 1: to give it. Let's continue talking about that because how

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Speaker 1: does this affect Ezekiel Elliott? How does this change things

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Speaker 1: for Zeke? Or does it change things? Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: segment where we were talking tight end a little bit here,

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Speaker 1: put a tweet out there because I saw a lot

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Speaker 1: I put it out there. I said, so, now we're

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Speaker 1: all okay with the Cowboys taking a tight end in

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Speaker 1: the first round. All of a sudden, because Dalton kincaide

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Speaker 1: out of Utah has now been a name. Darnielle Washington

768
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Speaker 1: from Georgia has been a name. I'm not there on it.

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Speaker 1: Michael Mayer from Notre Dame. There's some really good tight ends.

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Speaker 1: I'm not okay with it unless it's truly the best

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Speaker 1: player available. I'm okay with it if it's the best

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Speaker 1: player on your board. I just have a hard time

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Speaker 1: thinking there won't be another good player there for you

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Speaker 1: to take. I had a better positional value. And that's

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Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about not only that, but

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Speaker 1: the running back position, as will and even if we'll

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Speaker 1: see how things work out, and we'll talk about it

778
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: in the moment. As far as because turn even if

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the Cowboys and Zeke partways, you still

780
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Speaker 1: have Malie Davis that you can come up and that

781
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: you can bring up to RB two. But also the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys for the most part, have shown that they know

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Speaker 1: how to find running back talent in the mid to

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Speaker 1: late rounds. So I don't see a situation. And for

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Speaker 1: those that are saying, well, you know what if, I'm

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Speaker 1: not even willing to entertain that conversation, because Bijan Robinson

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Speaker 1: is not escaping all the way to twenty six. I

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Speaker 1: have him in the top ten and I'd be surprised

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Speaker 1: if he makes out of the top fifteen. But what

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Speaker 1: he's not going to do is make it to twenty six.

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Speaker 1: So I would look more so at a guy like

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Speaker 1: a chain out of A and m as a day

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Speaker 1: two if you were just hell bent on getting another

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Speaker 1: running back. But at twenty six and I realized the

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Speaker 1: twenty six pick is more so early second round than

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Speaker 1: it is late first round if you think about it contextually.

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Speaker 1: But I'm out on running back because you have a

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Speaker 1: bigger need at cornerback. You have a bigger need at linebacker.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen with late vander Esh.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see Laty vander Esh come back,

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Speaker 1: but there's no guarantee that that happens, and if he

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Speaker 1: does not come back. We we love the Moan Clark,

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Speaker 1: but outside of d Moan Clark, what do you have.

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Speaker 1: You don't know yet about Jabril Cox. What is he

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Speaker 1: going to be this coming year? He basically had a

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup season right coming off of that tourn acl

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Speaker 1: He just wasn't wasn't right, couldn't get the playing time.

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Speaker 1: So The linebacker corps is another another thing that you have.

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Speaker 1: Safety are you Are you guaranteed to keep Donald? No,

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Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed because you used to tag on Polot,

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Speaker 1: which was smart because the tag on Donald would have

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Speaker 1: been fourteen million. I'm out on that, but I'm all

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Speaker 1: in on a long term deal for Donald. Too many

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00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: questions that too many other positions to sit here and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with tight end in the first round. I

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Speaker 1: was running back in the first round. I'm not. I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. You know what I you know what I want?

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Speaker 1: What do you want? Interior old line? Kyle? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: going right back to it, all right, Kyle. So interior

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Speaker 1: offensive line would certainly help the run game. Yeah, with

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard and blocking for number four and dress Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I mean what about twenty one? Yeah? Anybody? Anybody?

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Speaker 1: So no, no, no disrespect to Zeke. I love Zee. However,

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Speaker 1: if the number doesn't make sense, obviously you're gonna hurt

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Speaker 1: the part ways. That's with anybody. Hopefully that's with any

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Speaker 1: player nowadays, or they're taking care of themselves first, and

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Speaker 1: you hope that take care yourself fits in with your organization.

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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome, But the reality is, you gotta take

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Speaker 1: care of yourself. So if you can get more bread elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: and it makes sense for him, taking too account all

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Speaker 1: the all the moving expenses and the taxes and ramifications

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, if it makes sense

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Speaker 1: to stay here, awesome. If it doesn't, then wish him luck.

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Speaker 1: Right if you sure up. This is for all the

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Speaker 1: people out there. If you have a beast of an

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Speaker 1: offensive line, as Dallas had at one point in time,

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Speaker 1: it didn't matter who you put in the backfield. It

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00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: didn't matter if you had a Murray, it didn't matter

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Speaker 1: if you had a Zeke, it didn't matter. It matter

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Speaker 1: if you had a mac fadden. It didn't matter who

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00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: you put back there. They're gonna get a thousand yards.

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00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: And that's no slight on any of those guys and

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00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: their abilities and their talents. But it doesn't matter who

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Speaker 1: you have in the backfield because the running back talent

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00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: level is so high in this league now. And that's

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Speaker 1: no there's no spight on any of these guys. But

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Speaker 1: if you have a beast of an old line, I

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Speaker 1: could plug and play at the running back position. Now

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Speaker 1: that's not to say that some running backs are going

850
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Speaker 1: to perform better than others. But I'm saying that I

851
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Speaker 1: could put anybody back there, and if I'm freaking bulldogs

852
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Speaker 1: running people out of the way, guess what, there's ninety

853
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Speaker 1: percent of the backs that made it to this level

854
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Speaker 1: is going to get me four five yards in a

855
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Speaker 1: cloud of dust. And that's what you're looking for. Now.

856
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Speaker 1: You look at the home running hitters, you look at

857
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Speaker 1: the power backs. Now you got all those other things

858
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Speaker 1: you can start getting into. But if I have a

859
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Speaker 1: beast of a line, I'm not as concerned with the

860
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Speaker 1: talent level of the guy that's behind them. Let's talk

861
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Speaker 1: about Zeke with the talent level and the discrepancy there

862
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Speaker 1: is that, like you said, if the number doesn't match,

863
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do something about the number, whether

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Speaker 1: that's cut or whether that's a restructure and maybe a

865
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Speaker 1: cut and a resign where he takes a pet cut.

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Speaker 1: Either way, there's probably going to be movement with Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: Elliott in the next couple of weeks. Patrick, what do

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Speaker 1: you expect that to look like. I'm of the thought process,

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Speaker 1: the same thought process that I've had over the past

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Speaker 1: several weeks, several months when I've said it in the

871
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Speaker 1: same chair on the same mic, and I said, and again,

872
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Speaker 1: this is me speaking for me. I'm not speaking for

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Speaker 1: another man's pocket. I just feel like Ezekiel Elliott would

874
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Speaker 1: be open to taking a pay reduction to remain in

875
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Speaker 1: Dallas for a couple of reasons. Number One, he wants

876
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Speaker 1: to remain in Dallas. He loves the city of Dallas.

877
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, his best friend is the quarterback.

878
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to play with any other quarterback not

879
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: named rain Dakota Prescott. And in addition to that, he

880
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: understands and I'd love this about Zeke, the evolution of

881
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: his mindset, the maturity that he's come into, he will

882
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: openly and has openly said, rather directly or indirectly, being

883
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: able to tand him with a guy like Tony Pollard

884
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: extends his career absolutely at the most brutal and punishing

885
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: position in the NFL that has the shortest shelf life

886
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: of any position in the NFL. If you have have

887
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: found a sweet spot, if you're in a situation where

888
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: your team has found the sweet spot, fifty fifty, fifty one,

889
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: forty nine, sixty forty, who cares You're gonna get a

890
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: ton of reps. He's going to get a ton of reps.

891
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: Both careers are being extended. This contrarily is also not

892
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: contrarily but spending it around. This is also why Tony

893
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: Pollard will want Zeke to stick around. So you can

894
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: also believe that Tony Pollard is probably in Zeke's Aaron saying, hey,

895
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Speaker 1: you know, I want to stick with you. See what

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Speaker 1: you get. Soften your stance a little bit, right, If

897
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: your stance is hard and softened it, let's try to

898
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: keep the band together. That stance is gonna have to

899
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: drop three percent of what swear becomes a challenging conversation

900
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: for the cow twenty one percent of what he's supposed

901
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: to make. I was gonna be thirty three. Yes, I know.

902
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: That's where the conversation comes challenging. It's it's what does

903
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: execue Elliott and his representation view as a respectable offer

904
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Speaker 1: from the cowboys, because there is a value. He has value,

905
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: and he has pride, so he wants to stay. But

906
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: if you walk up to him and you say two

907
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, like come on, come on, what's

908
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: the optics? But how much? Okay, real, straight up, straight question.

909
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: I know we got get at a straight question. How

910
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: much money are you gonna allocate towards your running back room? Oh,

911
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: we talked about this a few episodes ago, and people

912
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: would know if they watched that episode. Yeah, well, I

913
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: mean that's the thing is. Now you've got at ten

914
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: million up right now. I told you I'm sixteen to seventeen,

915
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that because the salary cap is

916
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: going up quite a ways, and you also have the

917
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Speaker 1: ability you're going you're likely, let me put it that way,

918
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Speaker 1: you're likely going to try your best to extend Dak Prescott.

919
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: That's going to free up tens of millions of dollars

920
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: just with pulling that trigger. And then you have other

921
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: triggers you can pull, other restructures you can pull to

922
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Speaker 1: free up more money. I'm fine with a sixteen million

923
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Speaker 1: dollars running back room. When these are the two running

924
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: backs you're talking about. It was nineteen million last year, right,

925
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: So we were talking two three million dollar reduction. And

926
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Speaker 1: you see the production that you get out of these

927
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Speaker 1: two guys, and you see what happens inevitably when one

928
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Speaker 1: guy gets injured, you have two one ag Let me

929
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Speaker 1: ask you this question. Okay, I hear what you're saying. Yeah,

930
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: is it more important to have is it more important

931
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Speaker 1: to retain both of those guys? Who? Is it more

932
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: important to get all pro office alignment added to your

933
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Speaker 1: interial line. You can do both, you can, you can

934
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Speaker 1: do both. You can you don't have you don't have

935
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Speaker 1: to do one or the other. It's not a one

936
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Speaker 1: or the other because, like, like we just talked about

937
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Speaker 1: nineteen sprinkle a little bit more than nineteen million was

938
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Speaker 1: what it was last year because you had Tony Pollard's

939
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: rookie contract and Zeke's hit was eighteen point two. That

940
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: actually takes a two million dollar reduction. This year he

941
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Speaker 1: goes down to sixteen point seven, So I guess a

942
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: million and a half or job reduction if you can

943
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: cut that down the tag I'm Pollard, it's ten point one.

944
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Speaker 1: You give Zeke, however much the three to five million,

945
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: three to seven seven still even pushing it for me,

946
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have what fifteen sixteen million dollars against the

947
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: allocated to the running back position that's actually dropping down

948
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: from last year. You can take a couple of that

949
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: couple of those million and go find you better still

950
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: I'll extend your formula and say this, we're doing this

951
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: math based upon a ten point one million dollar franchise tag.

952
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys can't get a ball teen year deal

953
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: on Tony Poller, now it's no longer sixteen seventeen a

954
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: great dollar room the twenty twenty three cap between those

955
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: two to get this type of production and insurance against

956
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: each other, you know, potentially get injured at certain points

957
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: in the season. That hit now becomes what are we

958
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: talking ten twelve million? Yep? How about that? Absolutely? I

959
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: mean that's seven million a year that you could allocate

960
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: somewhere else you needed based off of what was what

961
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: was spent on running backs last year. And then that's

962
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: not to get a good a good offensive line. Yeah.

963
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Speaker 1: And then you get to revisit the position one at

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Speaker 1: all Pro great, Yeah, and then you just you work

965
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Speaker 1: on that lay from the office of line. Okay, now

966
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: you're getting greedy. All right, that's it for talking Cowboys.

967
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Speaker 1: Isaiah is gonna ask all Pro officsive lineman by the

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Speaker 1: end of the show for Chris Bean, Frisaia standback, Patrick

969
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: nose Walker round, Kyle Yeoman, saying so long, We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week on Talking Cowboys. This has been a

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