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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Battle Ground. This is a

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Speaker 1: podcast where battling friends talk all things wrestling and laugh

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Speaker 1: with comedians that are way funnier than him. And you

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Speaker 1: never know who's going to stop by. Here is your host, Battle.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we're back. It's a new episode Friday.

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Speaker 3: Here we are. It's the Battleground Podcast. My name is Battle,

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Speaker 3: my name is Eli. We talk wrestling every week. That

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Speaker 3: is why it's called Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know where I was going

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Speaker 2: with that, But today's show is going to be really

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Speaker 2: really good because, well you've seen on Vice the Dark

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Speaker 2: Side of the Ring stories. Well we have a guy

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Speaker 2: that's been a part of this, Dutch freaking man tail

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Speaker 2: Is on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is crazy.

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Speaker 4: Just you know, I know you you watched him growing up.

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Speaker 4: I watched him growing up in West Tennessee, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is this is gonna be a wild one, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: And it's gonna be super, super great stuff because I'm

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Speaker 2: just kind of looking at the questions that we have

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Speaker 2: for him, and of course we're gonna talk about Dark

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Speaker 2: Side of the Ring, but we want to know more

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Speaker 2: about his career because Dutch Mantel is known for his

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Speaker 2: career not just dark side of the ring.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's had two cents with WWE, He's

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Speaker 4: in WCW, Memphis Wrestling, He's wrestled all over the world.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, and it's it's I'm just looking forward

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Speaker 2: to this interview. And of course we also real quick

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Speaker 2: got to jump into it because it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: very long interview with Dutch Mantel. But we do need

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Speaker 2: to jump into this week's Battleground Weekly Challenge, and I.

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Speaker 3: Got to come up with some kind of cool little

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Speaker 3: thing that plays when we talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But this week we're putting up Ricky the Dragon Steamboat

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Speaker 2: versus Daniel Bryan, and you can voice your opinion on

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Speaker 2: our Instagram handle it is at Battleground Podcast. And if

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Speaker 2: I'm picking this match real quick, I'm going hands down Steamboat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I think this will was a good choice

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Speaker 4: because I think they're both similar wrestlers in the sense

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Speaker 4: that they're both what is it clinics, clinics, clinicians.

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Speaker 3: Take take something, take they put on clinics.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they put on clinics. I think that's the grand

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Speaker 4: scheme of it. You know, I think they both just

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Speaker 4: dissect their matches on a different level than a lot

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Speaker 4: of the other guys.

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Speaker 3: I probably would give.

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Speaker 4: It to Steamboat just because of probably his cardio. You know,

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Speaker 4: he's a little bit better shape. But I don't know, man,

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Speaker 4: that one would be a pretty pretty good one to

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Speaker 4: check out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so go voice your opinion. Follow the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Battleground Podcast is our Instagram handle. But without further ado,

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Speaker 2: let's just go ahead and jump right into it. Here

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Speaker 2: is our interview with dutch Mantel.

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Speaker 3: Let's get ready to rumble. I'd be lying right now

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Speaker 3: if I wasn't like giddy. Because of who we have on.

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Speaker 2: The phone today, I believe this is wrestling Royalty.

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Speaker 3: Dutch Mantel is on the phone with us. How are

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Speaker 3: you doing, sir?

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Speaker 5: Well? I love that introduction Royal. I'll take it. But

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Speaker 5: I'm doing well. How you guys?

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Speaker 2: We are great. So let's let's just kind of jump

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Speaker 2: right into this. Let's go back to the very beginning.

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Speaker 2: How did you get your start into wrestling?

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Speaker 5: We got time?

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Speaker 5: Long story. I'll just give you the highlights. Says I

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Speaker 5: Then I got out and I had a friend in Atlanta,

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Speaker 5: And the guy's name was and nobody will remember him,

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Speaker 6: Like two sixty.

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Speaker 5: So you figure I'm making four hundred dollars a week

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Speaker 5: And that's that's how I got started in the business,

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Speaker 5: and that's how I started learning the history of the business.

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Speaker 5: Guys today, a lot of them and WWE, they don't

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Speaker 5: All they know is the history of the WWE, which

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Speaker 5: and then we'll probably talk about this a little bit later.

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Speaker 5: But I started in February twenty thirteen. And when I

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Speaker 5: He was looking for a manager for Jack Swagger, and

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Speaker 5: and he says, we're looking for an older guy that's

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Speaker 5: So I did one. I went in the back and

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Speaker 5: I had ten minutes to prepare for this. So I'm thinking,

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Speaker 5: remember the you remember the movie Grand Torino?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, great movie.

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Speaker 5: Well I started channeling Clint Eastwood. So I went in there,

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Speaker 5: did the interview. I said, when I walk down my streets,

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Speaker 5: what happened to my country? What happened to my America?

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Speaker 5: So I met him at three thirty. I did the

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Speaker 5: interview at five thirty. Vince saw it. At five he

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Speaker 5: went into I talked to the Triple Age at four thirty.

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Speaker 5: Vince saw it at five thirty. I was hired at six,

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Speaker 5: and I was live on Raw that night at seven thirty.

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 5: And even a couple of guys called me. They said, Wow,

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Speaker 5: how long have y'all been working on your appearance?

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Speaker 6: I said probably an hour maybe.

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Speaker 5: Because they didn't have it. They wanted to hire me,

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Speaker 5: I said yeah. So I went on the road and

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Speaker 5: went right to WrestleMania twenty nine from there, that was

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Speaker 5: like what six seven weeks later? Now, you tell me

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Speaker 5: a guy walks in off the street and they hire him.

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Speaker 5: And I was an older guy there. I'm sixty nine

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Speaker 5: then I was in I was in Europe six eight

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Speaker 3: Huh, that's a crazy story.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes when I tell people, they said, how did

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Speaker 5: And it is really amazing to me because I came

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Speaker 5: I would have thought you were completely crazy. But the

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Speaker 5: wrestling business, and that's why I love it so much.

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Speaker 5: The wrestling business gave me the opportunity to travel the

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Speaker 5: lot of people come up to me and they said, Dutch,

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Speaker 5: I just want to thank you because he said, my

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Speaker 5: Not hated him, but he said we didn't get along.

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Speaker 5: The only time we ever shared was sitting around a

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Speaker 5: share time, he said. Beyond that, we had nothing in common.

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Speaker 5: So and wrestling does bring people together. And I'm if

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Speaker 5: you go to a wrestling convention, you will see people.

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Speaker 5: It's like going as a comic con is what it is.

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Speaker 5: You don't see people are getting in fight and they

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Speaker 5: are going and seeing everybody and enjoying themselves. This is

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Speaker 5: a great experience, right. Well, so that's how that's how

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Speaker 4: It's okay, No, we appreciate it. So, you know, you

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Speaker 4: you mentioned you traveled the world, and you know one

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Speaker 4: place that you spent a lot of time was Puerto Rico,

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Speaker 4: and I know there was some very dark times there

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Speaker 4: and there were some positive times. One one story we

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Speaker 4: want to kind of highlight that what was kind of positive.

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Speaker 3: This was crazy to me.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize this, but in nineteen seventy nine, you

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Speaker 4: and Cowboy Frankie Lane y'all sold out the sixteen thousand Sea.

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Speaker 5: So you guys have done some research.

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Speaker 3: We've done some research. Yeah, Hey, we told you we're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, but you guys sold out that arena for

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Speaker 4: nine weeks straight. I mean, like, what what was the

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Speaker 4: And like what was the atmosphere in that arena for

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Speaker 5: I learned that about my second night there. And I

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Speaker 2: Man, that is that is a crazy story. Our guest

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Speaker 2: right now, dutch Man tell us on the phone with us. Uh,

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Speaker 4: Well, and I think it's what you said before we

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Speaker 3: Oh easy, I know.

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Speaker 5: People tell me they set their watch by when wrestling

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Speaker 5: Those were back. They won't do that now because first

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Speaker 5: And let me let me get this in. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: June the second here in Nashville at the spring Water Bar.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna talk in just a minute about

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Speaker 5: the Dark Side of the Ring. But when I did

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Speaker 5: So oldis bar in Tennessee, right there in Centennial Park.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know exactly the dress, but you can

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Speaker 5: seven pm. I do a meet and reread at six fifteen.

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Speaker 5: And I enjoyed doing these because the fans enjoy it.

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Speaker 5: And I invite everybody to come and join me. June second,

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Speaker 4: By the way, yeah, well we'll definitely blast that on

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Speaker 2: Now do I get to bring my cowboy hat? And

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Speaker 5: To being torn which is being torn down, you know.

435
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's very sad.

436
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 2: We actually had Frank Griffin, who is the owner of

437
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 2: Overdrive and a couple of weeks ago and he's doing

438
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: the last show at the Fairgrounds with Tommy Dreamer.

439
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

440
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 3: And we were talking about that. So much history at

441
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: that Fairgrounds, a.

442
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 5: Lot of history in that building, a lot of history.

443
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 5: You know, it used to It's funny about Memphis Rustling.

444
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 5: We used to fill out every Monday night in Memphis

445
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 5: seven thousand, eight thousand, ten thousand people on a regular basis. Hey,

446
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 5: when it got down to five thousand people, they wanted

447
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 5: to find everybody. You know, five thousand people in the

448
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 5: Mid South Coliseum doesn't look very crowded, but you put

449
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 5: five thousand people in the arena, that a whole five

450
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 5: thousand people, you know, it sold out. But Memphis was

451
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 5: in Nashville and Louisville, Kentucky, in Eversbilt, India, and Lexington, Kentucky.

452
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 5: When we would go to some of those towns, you know, Leslton, Kentucky,

453
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 5: rop arena hosts twenty thousand. Now we wouldn't settle out,

454
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 5: they would turt and half of it all, but they'd

455
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 5: be eight, nine, ten thousand people there. In Lexington, Kentucky,

456
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 5: it's a basketball town. But I don't care what a

457
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 5: town is if the wrestling is good, the people are

458
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 5: going to be.

459
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: There, Oh, most definitely. And it's like here in Nashville.

460
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: It's like last weekend in Portland, they packed out the

461
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: Portland High School gym for.

462
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 3: A wrestling event. And you know, as long as you've

463
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: got this.

464
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 5: Is how they're doing that. Now I've thought about this,

465
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 5: I said, wait a minute, you used to run shows.

466
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 5: It might drow. I don't know. You know, it's how

467
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 5: you promote the event. But now with social media, you

468
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 5: know it's there. You just get people to follow you.

469
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 5: At least they will know when the event is in town.

470
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 5: And that's how they're doing it. Now. That's how all

471
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 5: of these independent wrestlers are getting noticed by w t

472
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 5: IS because of social media. So somebody is sitting in

473
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 5: w TW and they're reading this guy who wants to come,

474
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 5: and he sends a letter or a call and they

475
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 5: tell him to look him up. Well, now it's right

476
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 5: there and they can. They can look and see what

477
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 5: this guy looks like, how he talks, how he presents himself,

478
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 5: how he how he how he performs in the ring.

479
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 5: And that's how those guys are doing it. More power

480
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 5: to him. I wish I had it when I started.

481
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 6: A law, Yeah, I no joke.

482
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 3: I want to touch on you.

483
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: You mentioned earlier about you know, how how difficult it

484
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 4: would be to start up something nowadays. You were actually

485
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: a part of a startup, for lack of a better word,

486
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: Smoking mountin wrestling with Jim Cornett. You know, that's kind

487
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 4: of like Memphis. That the roster, you know, the amount

488
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: of people that came through there was just unbelievable. Chris Jericho, Landstorm,

489
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 4: Bob Holly, you know, Delo brown Kine was there for

490
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 4: a little bit. What was it like working with that

491
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 4: organization and also kind of seen it from the ground

492
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: floor and just being associated with who ended up being

493
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: like the futures of the business.

494
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 5: Well, I started with you know, I started with with

495
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 5: Smoking Mountain, not as a rustler, but as an announcer

496
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 5: and Bob Codle and I announced. I don't know, I

497
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: did two years of announcing and that's when I'm in

498
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 5: it's probably I almost say the years is ninety two,

499
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety two, In nineteen ninety three I did in

500
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 5: all their TVs. Bob Coddle and I very well with that,

501
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 5: well done show, very well done, easy to follow, told

502
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: some great stories and Cornette knew what he was doing. Now,

503
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 5: think about Cornette. When I went out there to announce,

504
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 5: somebody said, well, what would he tell you what to say?

505
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 5: I said, Jim never talked to me. Really, I mean,

506
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 5: Jimmy managed me when he first got in. I was

507
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 5: the first guy Jim Cornette managed. I'm not the first person,

508
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 5: but I was the first male. You know who the

509
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: first person he managed? I'm sorry, times up, Sherry Martell.

510
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 5: And then I know that that's a good trivia that's

511
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 5: a good trivia question. And I was a I was

512
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 5: a second person, but the first guy. But uh, Jimmy

513
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 5: had had an investor and uh, I can't remember his

514
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 5: name now.

515
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: Rick is Rick Rubin, right, the producer Rick Rubin.

516
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he never would tell anybody who the industor was.

517
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: I knew it was. He had to have an invest

518
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 5: because you know, it was too expensive to do it

519
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 5: any other way. But he had an investor who was

520
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: a big Rustling fan. And you know what, Rick Rubin,

521
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 5: what he wanted more than anything else, what he wanted

522
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 5: to see in a character.

523
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 6: You know this, I don't want a zombie. A zombie

524
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 6: who he had a zombie but you can find it

525
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 6: somewhere and I forgot it.

526
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 5: I forgot his name. He had a name and he

527
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 5: go in the ring. But that's one of the things

528
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 5: he wanted, that's what Jim said. But we had They

529
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 5: had rock and Roll, and they had the Midnight, The

530
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 5: redised Midnight and had Cornet and they had I don't think.

531
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 5: I think Lambda was a shortly, very shortly, and had

532
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: Dirty White Boy and had Chris Candido and Sonny that's

533
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 5: before they went to WW. And he brought a lot

534
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 5: of talent through there. So Smokeing Out was a fun

535
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 5: place to work.

536
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of that stuff's on the WW

537
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 4: network now too, so it's it's pretty wild to go

538
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: back and and like you said, watch the matches and

539
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: the quality that was produced.

540
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 5: Well, he wanted me to do an n wing segment

541
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 5: to interview rustlers, and he said, come up with the name.

542
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 5: And I caught it down and dirty with touch, So

543
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: I guess I did that six months and it was

544
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: it was just an interview segment for rustlers to come

545
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 5: in the ring and talk about to a particular match

546
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 5: or another rustler or whatever. That would fun too, for

547
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 5: a lot of fun.

548
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: So you so you're telling me that the miss and

549
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: Christian have now all pretty much stole your your stick

550
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: right with their Miss TV Miz and Christian when they

551
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: had the Ratedar Superstar and some other stuff. They pretty

552
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: much stole your stick in the ring when you would

553
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: interview people.

554
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if they stole it or not.

555
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 5: It was it's an old platform that rustlers used to do.

556
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 5: I probably stole them somebody too so started doing it

557
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: because but the thing about me doing that is they

558
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 5: didn't direct me. They said go in there and do

559
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 5: this interview. See, because when you had experienced players, experienced performers,

560
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: you didn't have to write. And nothing was ever written

561
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: down for me in Smoke the Mountain. Everything I said

562
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 5: just came off the top of my head. And if

563
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 5: there was a if there was something that Jimmy really

564
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 5: wanted out there, who may tell me that. But that's

565
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 5: ald he tell me. Now everything he's written down, and

566
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 5: you know own rall. I've I've stood there in the

567
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 5: grittle position and watch the producer. It's either it's either

568
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: advance or triple ah talking to those announcer and tell

569
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 5: them to say this and say this, and say this

570
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 5: and say this. See most of that what you hear

571
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: in WWE. It's well produced, but none of it is

572
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 5: very very original, from the from the announcers and Smokey Mountain.

573
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 5: Everything I said was my idea, So if I said it,

574
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 5: I'd own it. Man.

575
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: It's it's such a it's so crazy to hear these stories.

576
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: Dutch Mantella is on the phone with us right now. Uh,

577
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: let's I want to talk about something that I guess

578
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: is starting to really blow up in the wrestling world.

579
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: And uh it is Dark Side of the Ring. And

580
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: you've been a part of a couple episodes. Where did

581
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: this all begin? Like, did somebody come to you as

582
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: Cornette involved? I mean, how did it all go about?

583
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 5: Well, the producer and and the brainchild of this is

584
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 5: a guy Evan Cousin e h U S n e

585
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: Y And you can find him on Twitter, Evan E.

586
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 6: D A.

587
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 5: N Husney And he worked for Vice and he had

588
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: this idea that he would like to tell these stories

589
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 5: in reenactment style. And he had had this idea, I

590
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: guess a couple of years before, and I think he

591
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 5: presented it through them twice and they like kind of

592
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 5: turned him down twice, but he never lost his desire

593
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 5: to produce a show like this. So finally he said,

594
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try it one more time, even though they'd

595
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: turned it down twice. According to him, and maybe this

596
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: may not this may not even be true. This is

597
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: what I understand that he told me. So when he

598
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 5: started the they wanted to do an episode on the

599
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: Bruiser Brody murder in Puerto Rico, and I was there.

600
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 5: I was the first guy that Evan And actually I

601
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: asked him just a month ago. I said hey, and

602
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 5: he told me, said, you were the first guy I called.

603
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 5: I was talking to him and I said, well, why

604
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: was I the first one? He said, because you were

605
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: involved in the Boozier Brody incident in Puerto Rico. You

606
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 5: were a witness, and I just wanted to get your

607
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 5: feedings on it. And then what what what we then

608
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: developed is I put him in contact with Cornette, I

609
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: put him in contact with Bruce Prichard, and they in

610
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 5: turn put him in contact with what's the guy in

611
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 5: a laughta His name not Tony but Eric Bischoff. Hey, guys, listen,

612
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: my memories not very good. I've been hit on the

613
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 5: head a couple of hundred, So I can't. I can't

614
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 5: remember nothing. So they put him in contact with them

615
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: and then he started getting all these stories and he

616
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: had a bunch in his head anyway, and then it

617
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 5: kind of he we did. We actually did the Boogier

618
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 5: Brody one maybe a year and a half ago, and

619
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 5: then we did the They did the rest of them

620
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 5: a year later, which is Back in the Back in

621
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: the Fall, and then they came together and then he

622
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 5: presented it to him and now you see what it's doing.

623
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 5: It's really outperforming all expectations Advice had for the show.

624
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: But I told him, I said, listen, Evan, you're dealing

625
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 5: with wrestling fans, and they're going to watch this. Rustling

626
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 5: fans will eat this up because I even like it. Right,

627
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 5: Guys watch it and like it. Wrestling fans like to

628
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 5: be told the story behind.

629
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: The story, and it's it's crazy.

630
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: Are there some discrepancies in it? Yeah? I guess maybe,

631
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: But that's the story that we had and that's what

632
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 5: we went with.

633
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: And you know it's crazy because it's like when I

634
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: the first when I started scrolling through I started watching

635
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: the Bruiser Brody wanted. I text Eli about it and

636
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: it's just like it's very well done. And of course

637
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: it's not just by you know, random people that could

638
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: have been there. They're getting the people that were actually

639
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: involved in like hearing you tell the story of sitting

640
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: there and you and Tony and getting bruises to the

641
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: hospital and the whole situation. Like I got goosebumps the

642
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: entire time watching that episode.

643
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 5: Plus it was in Puerto Rico too, And I told

644
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 5: you he had always had a tager's bide to it

645
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: because you've got people you don't known and speaking the

646
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: foreign language. And but and it was it was just different.

647
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 5: But when that happened, And if you watch the show,

648
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 5: it's on Bias on Wednesday nights at nine o'clock eastern

649
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 5: eight o'clock here in Nashville.

650
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 6: But it's it's it's a good show.

651
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: The first show, did I think one hundred and fifty

652
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: one thousand live viewers for that show? Jeez, you know,

653
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty thousands for Vice is pretty good, right,

654
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 5: But when you add in the three de viewing period

655
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 5: and the YouTube, it was viewed four hundred thousand times

656
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: or more. And now every week it went up. The

657
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: next week was undred eighty thousand live viewers the week

658
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 5: came to that was two hundred and fourteen live viewers,

659
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: and that was the Bruiser. Brodie one was the third one,

660
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 5: which had been on YouTube for three weeks.

661
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of how I stumbled across it

662
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: was on YouTube because I was just kind of scrolling

663
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: through and I was like, I'm gonna sit there and

664
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: watch this, and then I was like hooked, and I

665
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: just kept going down the rabbit hole and watching everything

666
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: that was available for me.

667
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 5: Well, the first one was about bro The first one

668
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 5: was about what was the first one about.

669
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: I think the first one was the matchold.

670
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 5: One savage savage, good story, but it was kind of

671
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: a dark side to it because you know, he died

672
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: and she died, right and then this and some of

673
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 5: these have some of these have happy endings and some

674
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: of them is just a life ending. And the second

675
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: one was about the the Montreal screw Job, which I

676
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 5: which I found fascinating myself. I'd heard that story so

677
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: many times. But see you guys that span you hear

678
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 5: it through a filter. Inside the business, the filter is

679
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: removed kind of, but it's still we're hearing the same thing,

680
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 5: but just a little bit more and I learned some

681
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 5: things there I didn't know. And then the thing about Brody,

682
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: I was there still still found out some things I

683
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 5: didn't know. And then the one I think that's playing,

684
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: uh that played? What was the one that played last week?

685
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: Week?

686
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 5: That was fascinating because I'd heard that story and I

687
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 5: knew the von Erics, So I'm not talking about someone

688
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 5: who was distant to me or foreign to me. I

689
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 5: knew the Vonnac boys, and I knew how how they

690
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 5: acted and how they behaved. And and I think the

691
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: one is the Gino Hernandez one which will play. It's

692
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: the fifth in the Sea. He's fascinating.

693
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 3: So man, I think that one airs tonight. I believe.

694
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 5: Oh so this is Live today, right this interview?

695
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll chop some stuff off up.

696
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 5: Okay, But this is fascinating because I learned things about

697
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 5: Geno that I never knew before. And I knew Gino

698
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 5: back in the seventies. I think he died in eighty six.

699
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 5: I knew him probably ten years earlier when he was

700
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 5: just getting started, because he started about eighteen. I think

701
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 5: he died when he was twenty eight. He was a

702
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 5: he was a wild little. He was a wild little

703
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 5: bassage and a good look and a and a good

704
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 5: looking guy. Women loved him. And when he went out

705
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 5: there and he did his deal, you know, because that's

706
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: what actually Texas, you know, the von Eires were, you know,

707
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: they were good looking guys and uh and Gino so

708
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: in Texas one time was very very hot. And I

709
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 5: found out things about gene Ornandez that even I didn't know.

710
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one we're really excited to check out. I

711
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: think you know his his career was cut short, obviously,

712
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: and I mean he accomplished a lot in the short

713
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: time that he did wrestle, But just kind of hearing

714
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 4: the backstory and stuff should be pretty cool. Well, we

715
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: we talked about the June Tewid event here in Nashville,

716
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: and like I said, we'll plug all that. What else

717
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: are you working on that that the fans may check out?

718
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: You get anything else in the well?

719
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: I've written. I've written two books. I don't know if

720
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 5: you've read them or not. The one is The World

721
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 5: according to Dutch, And I wrote this about light or

722
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 5: nine years ago. Still a good book because once the

723
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 5: story is told, I mean, the story didn't get old.

724
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 5: It's just it's there. It's always there, right, and it's

725
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: the stories of the second book is Tales from a

726
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 5: Dirt Road.

727
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: That I wrote.

728
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: And these are stories that that things that have happened

729
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 5: to me are to someone that I was there present

730
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 5: and not. It's about fights in the dress room, it's

731
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 5: about getting pulled over, about the cops. It's fights and bars,

732
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: it's things that happened during matches, and I mean, it's

733
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: just road stories. And the thing about it is I

734
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 5: don't use any bad language in it or out anybody.

735
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 5: I called anybody a drunkard or drug addict or anything else.

736
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 5: It's just crazy. The crazy stories has happened. And then

737
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 5: it's got the Undertaker in there. When we got pulled

738
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 5: over and on High sixty five South at gunpoint a

739
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 5: bout the state police, that's a pretty good story. And

740
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: then Caine slaving my butt in Puerto Rico from the crowd,

741
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 5: literally kicking the crap out of me. But that had

742
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 5: been became I don't I'd have been heard a lot

743
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 5: worse than what I was. I needed after that night.

744
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 5: I needed like sixteen stitches over my eye below mine

745
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: because the guy kicked me. But it's just stories like that,

746
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 5: and they're told like I may tell a story from

747
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty five, then I might jump up to two

748
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 5: thousand and three. I tell a story that way, so

749
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 5: you can It's actually a great bathroom book. You can

750
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: take it in there and put it down, read the

751
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 5: chapter and you'd be done with it. The next chapter is

752
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 5: totally different. And you can find these on Amazon or

753
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 5: if you want. Some people want autograph coffees, So if

754
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 5: you want an autograph coffee, just email me at dirty

755
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 5: Dutch mantail with two als at gmail dot com and

756
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: I get right back to you.

757
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 6: This.

758
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: Can I just go ahead and just say that it's

759
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: such an honor to have you on.

760
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 5: The phone with us today, Well you can say that.

761
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sitting here and I'm looking at Eli.

762
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: We're kind of going back and forth, and I was like,

763
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: this is crazy, the fact that I am talking to

764
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: a guy that I grew up watching and my dad

765
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: told me stories about, and now I'm on the.

766
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: Phone with him.

767
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 5: What did your dad say?

768
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: He would tell me about the matches you you had,

769
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: and he would just kind of go through of like

770
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: the arenas and like matches that he was at where

771
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: you were there and just how like the atmosphere in

772
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 2: the building was just ridiculous.

773
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 5: Well, we used to go in these We used to

774
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 5: go in these small towns. And small towns are no

775
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 5: different today than they were then, except now they have raw.

776
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 5: But back then they didn't have raw. They had Memphis Wrestling.

777
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 5: So when Memphis Prestlings say it went to a little town,

778
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: say Lexington, Kentucky, Lexington, Tennessee, let's just say small town,

779
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 5: maybe eight thousand people. We put a thousand people in

780
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 5: that gym. A thousand. It was unbelievable. Sometimes you couldn't

781
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: even and in summertime it would be so hot, but

782
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 5: the people would not leave. Everybody sweating forty sweat, but

783
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 5: nobody left because they were having a good time. So

784
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: when you look out to the little Hauschool gym and

785
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 5: you got a thousand people out there and they're all

786
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 5: coming to enjoy it and see what you're doing, it's

787
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 5: really an honor and it's really a tribute. And actually

788
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: I think the wrestlers enjoyed it as much as the

789
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 5: fans because it was a pleasure to go out there

790
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 5: and work in front of people who responded to what

791
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: you were doing, and it wouldn't be just election of Kentucky.

792
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: It could be another little town bout Tennessee whatever. Or

793
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: if you went to Hear, you went to Shelbyville, Tennessee.

794
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 5: Sometimes the smaller towns drew more because they didn't get

795
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 5: that much live entertainment. So when Rustling came to town,

796
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: it was like a carnival come to town. Hey, let's

797
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: go to Wressell and you take the kids and all

798
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 5: the kids could show up. It was really a fun time,

799
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 5: and I really had a lot of the fans would

800
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 5: come up and talk to you. And every fan had

801
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 5: a different story about something, something they liked, and they

802
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 5: didn't like something, whatever. But it was a good time.

803
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 5: One time I was working this is a story of

804
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 5: my book. I'm working Pulaski, Tennessee. The guys, what is

805
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 5: Pulaski known for? The Absolutely I'm standing up there in Pulaski, Tennessee.

806
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 5: And I kind of knew this, but I didn't know this.

807
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 5: And here's another side stor. I was coming back from

808
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: Birmingham one night, I sixty five and I look over

809
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 5: to the to my left. I swear there's a big

810
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 5: cross burning in this field. And I went, what I mean,

811
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 5: this is a true story, and I didn't even know

812
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 5: why would it cross? Why would the cross be burning

813
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 5: in a field that you could see from the interstate. Now,

814
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 5: this is the day before Google. If I wanted to

815
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 5: find out any of this stuff, I'd have to either

816
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: ask someone or go to the library. But I did

817
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 5: ask around and they told me, oh, Pelaski, Tennessee is

818
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: the home of the Keith Clutch Slam and what they

819
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 5: were probably having was a flam meeting. Woh wow. Anyway,

820
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 5: going back to my original story, I tell you I

821
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 5: get off track. But I'm standing there watching the match

822
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 5: and this guy come up to him. He's probably twenty

823
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: eight twenty seventy twenty eight with a pseudo and he said,

824
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 5: how you doing DUTs? I said, oh, fine time He

825
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 5: said that's not got something?

826
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 6: Huh?

827
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 5: Can I talk to you after the matches?

828
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 6: I said, well, yeah, I guess.

829
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 5: So the matches in and Savage was there. I was

830
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 5: wrestling Sandwage that night, and this a long time ago,

831
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 5: and the gym was about sold out, not quiet, but

832
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 5: it was like summertime. I went out to my car

833
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 5: and here this guy came, and he introduced himself, handed

834
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 5: me a card told me his name, and he told

835
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 5: me he was the president of the local chapter of

836
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 5: the KKK. Brother when he said that, the hair on

837
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 5: my arm stood up, and he wanted to know would

838
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: i'd be interest, said and join him?

839
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: What?

840
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 5: And I went, well, you know, I got a lot

841
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 5: going on, and and I said, I'm just gonna be

842
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 5: honest with you right now. I said, Hey, I don't

843
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 5: have enough. I don't have time in my life or hate.

844
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 5: So I got I gotta reject your offer. Move on.

845
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 5: He said, okay, the offer still stands. I said okay,

846
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 5: and he walked off. Brother. I got out. I couldn't

847
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: get out of there fast enough. And I was I

848
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: was riding home and I looked over and there was

849
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 5: this car that I threw it at the window. Man

850
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 5: that that was one thing that I've kind of always remembered.

851
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 5: Oh my god, man, this is another story. This is

852
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 5: you remember the Mary Winkler case in Selmer, Tennessee, the

853
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: woman who shot her husband in the back. Yeah, and

854
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: she came and I think she lived in McMinnville for

855
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 5: a while because I got the follow in this case.

856
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 5: So I swear guys, I went to Semmer, Tennessee to

857
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 5: appear at this show. And this hasn't been too long

858
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 5: ago either. I don't know when it happened. But so

859
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 5: I go to the concession stand and I'm just standing there,

860
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 5: and all the women knew me. Oh, hi, DUTs, how

861
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 5: you doing?

862
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 6: You want some coffee?

863
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: You wanna coke?

864
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 6: You're gonna hunt dog?

865
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 5: You want to need this? Then? And they were trying

866
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 5: to give me all this stuff, and I said, now

867
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 5: I'll take I'll take a coke, am and coke. And

868
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 5: we're just standing there, chit chatting, and I said, hey,

869
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 5: what's what happened to that Merriwinkter woman? My god, you

870
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: thought I threw cold water in those women they had

871
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 5: just all all the expression went out on their faces.

872
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 5: They turned her back on me. They almost tried to

873
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 5: pretend I didn't even say that, because then one of

874
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 5: them said that man was mean to that woman.

875
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: Oh woh.

876
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 5: And they had the trial and she wasn't convicted. She

877
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 5: shot her husband twice in the back while he laid

878
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 5: them to the bed with I take a shotgun and

879
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 5: took the kids and went to Florida, and they still

880
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: didn't convict her.

881
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 3: Jez Man.

882
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: So when I said that, I said oooh, I don't know, guys,

883
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 5: they just show you sometimes.

884
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: Right, And let's be siful.

885
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 5: He had no, kidd, that's not even a wrestling story.

886
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 5: That's just a story that happened to me around wrestling. Man,

887
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 5: it's real events.

888
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: And you know the story that you kind of just

889
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: told that stuff that you'll be able to hear at

890
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: one night only on Sunday, June second, at seven pm

891
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: at the spring Water Supper Club and round right, Yep, you.

892
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 5: Can hear that. And it's a lot of humor, and

893
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 5: there's going to be a question and IQ and a

894
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: station afterwards. And if you're a wrestling fan and you

895
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: want to hear some old time stories, I run the

896
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 5: history of wrestling, or just be around it. I mean,

897
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 5: I could do this interview all day long. We could talk,

898
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 5: we could talk for a couple more hours. And man,

899
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 5: the times I went, the times I went to India,

900
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: the times I went to South Africa, times I went

901
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 5: to Europe, I went to Japan, Mexico, Canada, And why

902
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 5: other business do you do that?

903
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 6: You just don't do that, right, And you know, I.

904
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 5: Think, I mean you guys don't you guys don't go

905
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 5: to South.

906
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: Africa no, we don't.

907
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: I think the closest we go to our radio shows

908
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: when we go to like certain events and whatnot. But

909
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: uh so once it gets closer, you know, we sit

910
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: here and talk about You could talk about this for hours.

911
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: Once it gets close to the event, we want you,

912
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: if you're available, to come in the studio. We'll have

913
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: you in here and we'll talk more wrestling, and we'll

914
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: talk more about the one.

915
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 3: Night only with Dutch.

916
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: Love it, guys.

917
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: Thank you so much Dutch for taking the time out

918
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: and talking with us today. Figure guys, I literally have

919
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: no words for what just happened on the phone just now.

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00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's pretty weird because he said he

921
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: could have gone for a couple more hours. I could

922
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: have just sat here and let him tell more stories.

923
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable that.

924
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, just sitting here listening to that and then getting

925
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: off the phone with him, and then meeting him, texting

926
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: back and forth. And I guarantee you you do not

927
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: want to miss the One Night with Dutch Mantel that's

928
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: happening on June second.

929
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: H You can grab all your tickets. We'll put an info.

930
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: Uh, we'll put some links in our podcast information everything

931
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: you can get it there. But yeah, so we've got

932
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: some more guests in store. We will be talking on

933
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: the phone with the guy who has had a great

934
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: career in wrestling and he is now over at Impact Wrestling,

935
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: Josh Matthews. We will talk to him next week on

936
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: the show and we'll kind of address the uh, the

937
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: elephant in the room that everybody wants to talk about

938
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: Impact Wrestling, what's the future hold.

939
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: We'll talk to him about that.

940
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, make sure that you follow us on Instagram

941
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: Battleground Podcast. You can check out Eli's podcast which.

942
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 3: Is music at City Horror Boom. Go check it out.

943
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: And until next week, we'll see you later. You wanna

944
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: say bye, Eli, see

945
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: You The left beft left