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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lively last hour. Bruce Feldman ten

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Speaker 1: minutes live from the College Football National Championship tonight, Indiana

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Speaker 1: favor by about a touchdown plus against the Miami Hurricanes.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman knows that Hurricane program inside and out Indiana,

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Speaker 1: of course, representing the Big Ten, which has made massive

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Speaker 1: strides as a conference the last couple of years. Albert

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Speaker 1: Breer is going to be joining us. In forty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, the tenth coaching opening Harbad Giants Stefanski Falcons

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Speaker 1: is set, but the Bill's lost another heartbreaker, time for

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Speaker 1: the hands at the hands of Sean Payton and the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: The bigger news though today Sean McDermott officially out as

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Speaker 1: head coach, and I think when you have Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: it's okay to demand greatness. Bill Walsh, Andy Reid, Jimmy Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Josh Allen's the kind of quarterback they can

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Speaker 1: win not one, not two, but three Super Bowls. McDermott

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Speaker 1: a good man and a good coach. But the Bills

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Speaker 1: kept finding ways to lose. The thirteen second loss to

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Saturday, there's five turnovers and bo Nicks up

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Speaker 1: and down the field three hundred plus yards.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was the.

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Speaker 1: Tush push last year. They couldn't get that right. The

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Speaker 1: last three years Buffalo has lost fourth quarter leads in

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Speaker 1: all games. All of their losses they lost fourth quarter leads.

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Speaker 1: It was time not quite buttoned up. The general manager,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, Brandon Bean, more of a cap guy

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Speaker 1: than a personnel guy, hasn't done McDermott any favors. The

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Speaker 1: wide receiver corp is mostly anemic. There are no Pro

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Speaker 1: bowlers on the defensive side. Even James Cook, Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: best teammate, leads all running backs in fumbles. But Saturday

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Speaker 1: wasn't a loss, it was a reckoning. It felt different.

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Speaker 1: The locker room was fifty five broken men. McDermott man

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Speaker 1: at the officiating I get it, but when John Elway

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Speaker 1: was in Denver, they moved off Dan Reeves. Tan Reeves

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Speaker 1: had been to three Super Bowls. Dan Reeves was a

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Speaker 1: great coach, but not great enough for John Alway's talent.

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Speaker 1: And Sean McDermott again. Eight playoff wins. That is the

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Speaker 1: most ever in league history by any coach that hasn't

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Speaker 1: appeared in a Super Bowl. He's a coach, He's a

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Speaker 1: good coach. I'll be honest. I think he would go

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Speaker 1: to the Raiders and get that figured out really quickly.

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Speaker 1: I'd hireman one second in Las Vegas. But each loss

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Speaker 1: hurt more, each loss mounted thirteen second loss, can't get

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Speaker 1: the toush push right blowing fourth quarter leads Saturday bo

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Speaker 1: Nicks kind of did what he wanted. Five turnovers on offense,

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Speaker 1: and it feels like Josh Allen so often is pressing

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Speaker 1: receiving help or a defense that can be good at

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Speaker 1: times but isn't special, not as good as the Rams,

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Speaker 1: not even as good as the injury plague Niners, certainly

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Speaker 2: So this is a great job.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here this morning thinking John Harbaugh, Kevin Stefanskire

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Speaker 1: But over the last starting in twenty twenty until today,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, maybe most of it's Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: You can't go Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: His teams, like McDermott, feel like they're not quite buttoned up.

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Speaker 1: They shrink in the playoffs. Can't go McCarthy. More of

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Speaker 1: the same, Jeff Haffley, Jesse mentor great defensive coordinators, But

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Speaker 1: we want to go with a defensive coach.

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Speaker 2: How about somebody.

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Speaker 1: That's proven, in my opinion, Brian Dable one a playoff

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Speaker 1: game with Daniel Jones, former offensive coordinator, that really took

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen to the next level. So Sean McDermott's got

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Speaker 1: eight playoff wins. You can do a lot worse than

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. But for Buffalo it's different. Josh Allen changes

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Speaker 1: the calculus. Here was Josh broken down after the loss Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, I Yeah, I feel like I let

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Speaker 4: I hate how it ended, and that's uh, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: shoot yourself in the foot like that? You don't deserve it.

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Speaker 1: The standard changes when you get an l Way, when

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Speaker 1: the market. Jim Harbaugh is off the market. Sean Payton's taken.

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Speaker 1: So is Mike Vrabel. To me, Brian Dabele, who's been

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Speaker 2: And at this point, to me, that's the answer.

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Speaker 1: Okay under Sean McVeigh, the Rams prove once again, regardless

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Speaker 1: a dropped path, and that's why they beat the Bears.

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Speaker 1: In a windy snow game earlier in the day, there

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, in my opinion, had the throw of the

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Speaker 1: the turnover battles yesterday and this weekend they went over four.

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Speaker 1: The Rams did not drop a pass in this weather,

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Speaker 1: So I thought, when all you needed to do was

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Speaker 1: I thought the Bears should have been trying to get

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Speaker 1: I thought, Caleb Williams, who has grown so much as

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Speaker 1: the very nature of Caleb Williams, the upside, the jet fuel,

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Speaker 1: I think there's four quarterbacks in league history that can

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Speaker 1: The Rams weren't perfect beat on the back end, but

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Speaker 1: And Chicago's not going anywhere. They're young, they're athletic, They're

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Speaker 2: Plays, more yards, more.

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Speaker 1: Spectacular, whereas the Rams defensive talent is young, explosive, and inexpensive.

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Speaker 1: That's the Bears primarily on offense. So the Rams came

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Speaker 2: Bears don't buckle.

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Speaker 2: There were so many things that went on in that

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Speaker 5: Maybe tonight's not all night.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this though, for you guys to

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Speaker 7: Man, I can't say enough about what you guys did.

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Speaker 2: Snep in snap out defense, how about my mother and

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Speaker 2: Kim Cardon.

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Speaker 1: And let's pivot to college football live in Miami, the

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Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes. You know, you'd say it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: the Hoosiers travels so well, they don't play second fiddle

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Speaker 1: to anybody, all right, So you tell me we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it so far. I mean I've seen one half

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Speaker 1: Is there a way to exploit Indiana?

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Speaker 1: Do they have a weakness that can be exploited tonight?

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Speaker 8: I don't know if they have a weakness really, Colin.

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Speaker 8: It's a really good team on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 8: They're much improved from last year in the trenches, especially

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Speaker 8: on the offensive line. Obviously, Fernando Mendoza, he's more of

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Speaker 8: a running threat than what they had last year. In

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Speaker 8: Curtis Rourke, He's played at an incredibly high level. Charlie Becker,

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Speaker 3: They already had a good receiving core.

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Speaker 8: The biggest question mark here, I think is Miami is

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Speaker 3: In the trenches.

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Speaker 8: Mario Cristoval old o line guy, has a huge offensive

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Speaker 8: line that's really physical. We saw they have run the

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Speaker 8: ball in the playoff extremely well. Elite defensive ends. Both

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Speaker 8: guys are probably first round picks. They can get after you.

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Speaker 8: Can they get pressure on Mendoza? Can they force some mistakes?

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Speaker 8: But the biggest thing I think is can the Hurricanes

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Speaker 8: do to Indiana what they've done to everybody else in

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Speaker 8: the playoff and that's run it down their throats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know Mario Crystobal for years and years

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Speaker 1: people say, well, you know, he's kind of a recruiter,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, Like, I watch this team mid season,

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Speaker 1: you know, lose to Louisville, and then I watch them

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Speaker 1: late beat Pittsburgh, and then I watch them in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Do you think to some degree, you know, we look

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Speaker 1: at Signetti if he has a very Saban feel, the

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Speaker 1: way he even speaks, you know, the efficiency. Are you

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Speaker 1: surprised the Miami team that you watched mid season? How

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Speaker 1: surprised are you? And you know this program, Well, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: they're playing for the Natty.

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Speaker 8: I'm surprising that they had a Carson Beck played a

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Speaker 8: terrible game against Louisville through four picks. They lost that game.

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Speaker 8: I think later in the year they started to get momentum.

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Speaker 8: I remember, this is the same team that beat Notre Dame.

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Speaker 8: They're the only ones really shut down Jeremiah Love. So

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Speaker 8: they are really good on defense, and that's a big

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Speaker 8: improvement from last year. But I think Colin, when you

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Speaker 8: frame it that way, I think a lot of us

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Speaker 8: felt like, hey, when they had cam Ward, which was

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Speaker 8: an even more explosive offense than what they have this

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Speaker 3: The defense let them down and they.

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Speaker 8: Sell and they imploded, and they made a lot of

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Speaker 1: No, I feel the same way I do think Indiana

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you'd have to say that. You'd be

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Speaker 8: I mean there's good teams. I think Texas is, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean Miami has built like an old school SEC team.

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Speaker 8: That's what he wants to do, and that's how they

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Speaker 3: And those are the teams.

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Speaker 8: Winning the championships, whether it was Alabama, Georgia or the

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Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman as always appreciate you stopping by, Bud.

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Speaker 3: Always pleasure calling and enjoy the game of that night.

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Speaker 5: This is the Herdline news, all right, Colin.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we're ten job openings this offseason is staggering. I

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Speaker 9: do wonder Kevin Stefanski was just named the Falcons head coach,

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Speaker 9: bounced him. I wonder if, like you said that, just

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Speaker 9: wonder if I can get to Buffalo. I think the

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Speaker 9: Atlanta situation is great. I think they've got an opportunity

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Speaker 9: This is a good team, man, it just relies on Pennix.

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Speaker 9: Like think Stefanski can fix. Stefanski, under five hundred and

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Speaker 9: I believe Joe Flacco filled in and somehow Stefanski made

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Speaker 9: some magic happen there. Your take on Stefanski the Falcons, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a winnable division. They've got good offensive pieces.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins could be their starter. They've got Penix. They'll

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Speaker 2: But it's a good, solid job.

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Speaker 1: Arthur Blank is a better than average owner, top ten

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Speaker 1: winnable division. They've always got a little bit of money.

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Speaker 1: It's an attractive free agent market. Stefanski's a bright guy.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good fit. I mean, ideally, if

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Speaker 2: But you know, it opened up late.

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Speaker 9: I'm curious that division next year immoderately interesting. Saints showed

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Speaker 9: and I know we do this every year, lose money

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Speaker 9: you laughing because the Falcons always let us down.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do.

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Speaker 9: But is it too or I guess we gotta wait.

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Speaker 2: For you to see free agency.

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Speaker 9: But are you as bullish on the Falcons as.

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Speaker 1: I'm very bullish on Kevin Stefanski. Ownership's good, Stefanski's good,

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Speaker 9: John Harbaugh. He's going to the Giant. So I hosted

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Speaker 5: Weird moment where it was like, yeah, deal's not signed.

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Speaker 9: So Joe Shane is essentially powerless good.

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Speaker 1: How told by a GM over the weekend, is when

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Speaker 1: do think the Giants are not that far away. Tight

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Speaker 1: end right, tackle another corner. Make sure Jackson Dart stays

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Speaker 9: Wow, ten to I can't wait for the offseason. It's

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Speaker 9: fun because who you pulling out of the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: Ten? Ten wins five five teams a year. Regress, It's

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Speaker 2: You don't know. That's a good point.

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Speaker 9: Final story, let's go to Major League Baseball. Kyle in

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Speaker 9: some news late last week kind of sent shockwaves around

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Speaker 9: the league. Kyle Tucker lands on the Dodgers. The Dodgers

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Speaker 9: basically were favorites to begin with. They're trying to go

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Speaker 9: for a three peat. But look at their World Series odds.

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Speaker 5: This is a.

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Speaker 9: Massive gap, a chasm, if you will, between the Dodgers

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Speaker 9: and my Yankees, followed by the Mariners Blue Jayson Company.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but the Dodgers are overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: They for the record, the Dodgers in Game seven needed

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Speaker 1: three or four miraculous things to happen to win the

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Speaker 1: World Series. So they have scuffed through some of their

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Speaker 1: playoff opponents. They've won two in a row, not five.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, by the way, everybody in Chicago complained about him.

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Speaker 1: He's not been a good postseason hitter. Now he goes

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Speaker 1: to the Dodgers, and it's totally unfair. The Dodgers got

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker. The Cubs ended up getting an upgrade. They

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Speaker 1: got a Marlins pitcher, Cabrera who's probably there too, Bragman

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Speaker 1: at third base. There's no question the Cubs will be

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Speaker 1: better next year. Also, the Yankees got Weathers in their

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Speaker 1: starting staff. They'll be better next year. So the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: the Cubs, and the Dodgers all potentially got better, not

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Speaker 1: bad for baseball. For the record, the low payroll teams

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Speaker 1: like the Mariners, Brewers, and Guardians should again be very good.

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Speaker 1: They've got excellent foundational pieces, so we can stop whining

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Speaker 1: about the little guy can't compete. Yes, at the end

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Speaker 1: of a season, big money Toronto, big money Philadelphia, big

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Speaker 1: money Yankees. For next year, By the way, the Cubs

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Speaker 1: will be good, the Yankees will be good. I think

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox will be good, the Dodgers will be good,

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Speaker 1: the Podreys will be good. If Houston can stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: they'll be good. And there'll be plenty of small market

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Speaker 1: team Seattle and Milwaukee were outstanding last year. Cleveland's got

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Speaker 1: no money. Cleveland didn't they win their division last year.

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Speaker 1: So this idea of the little guy can't compete. Little

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Speaker 1: guys aren't winning the World Series, but they're competing.

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Speaker 9: So interesting story like a second leg to this colin

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Speaker 9: so you're on the ground, boots on the ground in Chicago.

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Speaker 9: There are reports that one of the reasons Tucker was

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Speaker 9: driven to the Dodgers is because of the quote unquote

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Speaker 9: character assassination. They were saying, does this guy love baseball? Yes,

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Speaker 9: And they were kind of blaming Tucker a lot for

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Speaker 9: their foibles. Boys, one guy doesn't win baseball.

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Speaker 1: Here's the air thing. All they did in Chicago's complained

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Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, And the minute he goes to the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: Cub fans are like, this is not fair. You complained

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Speaker 1: about him the whole time you had him. And there's

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Speaker 1: no guarantee he's going to be a great postseason player.

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Speaker 1: And that's all the Dodgers care about. Oh, Toddy couldn't

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Speaker 1: hit in the postseasons. There's no guarantee Kyle Tucker is

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Speaker 1: going to explode. He wanted to go to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: The big money earners in this in the sport, the

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Speaker 1: Yankees and Dodgers make the most money. The Cubs are third.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Cubs are the third team in

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Speaker 1: terms of annual revenue. San Francisco Giants I think are

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Speaker 1: fourth if they had a huge year at the gate.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's kind of struggling to sell some tickets, I've

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Speaker 1: been told, But the idea of the little guy can't compete.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh hasn't competed for forty years. That's not a Dodger problem. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City doesn't really compete Cincinnati. Okay, is that a

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Speaker 1: Dodger problem. Nobody complained about this stuff twenty five years

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Speaker 1: ago when the Yankees dominated the Hot Stove League. Nobody

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Speaker 1: complained about it. Now it's a real problem.

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Speaker 9: So it's interesting because you know Tucker in Chicago, the

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Speaker 9: spotlights on him. You go to the Dodgers, You're just

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Speaker 9: another guy. There's no pressure on him. He probably will deliver.

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Speaker 9: It's like Otani Betts. The big names get the focus.

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Speaker 9: Tucker's not a huge name with the Dodgers with the

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Speaker 9: cubsoh different story, right, Yeah, there's a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Pressure on him.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with the News, Well that's the news, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by him.

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Speaker 5: The herd lie.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you the one thing watching the Bears game,

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Speaker 1: and again the Rams didn't drop a pass, didn't have

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Speaker 1: a penalty, and didn't have a turnover. They played like

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Speaker 1: incredibly clean considering the lousy, cold, windy, cold weather. But

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Speaker 1: I will say this about Kayleb Williams, I think he's

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Speaker 1: so much better today than eight nine weeks ago. Like

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Speaker 1: people in Chicago get, they have like you know, media

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Speaker 1: criticism syndrome, Like any criticism of Caleb Williams, they get

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Speaker 1: very very defensive. Listen. He does complete a lower percentage

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Speaker 1: of throws, and he had struggled a lot early this

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Speaker 1: year in like the first half, they weren't as good.

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Speaker 1: He was heroic and great in the fourth quarter. A

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Speaker 1: little bit of a bo Nicks comped in that term.

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Speaker 1: They're great late, not always great early. But I think

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Speaker 1: one of the things watching him against the Rams, he's

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Speaker 1: not frenetic, He's very comfortable. He doesn't get sacked. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's just a different quarterback. I don't care what the

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Speaker 1: numbers say. I don't care what the completion percentage. The

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Speaker 1: show Matt Stafford completed fifty percent of his throws when

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Speaker 1: you have weather like that and Dennis Allen dialed up

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Speaker 1: real pressure for Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford missed a half

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Speaker 1: dozen throws in that game. Matt Stafford had some, he

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Speaker 1: didn't have an interception. Stafford had a lot of misses

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Speaker 1: in that game, a lot, and Caleb always has some.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of horse power, and he fires

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Speaker 1: it too high. I think Caleb's a much different quarterback

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Speaker 1: than eight nine weeks ago. I think he looks way

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Speaker 1: more comfortable, and people say, well, how come he doesn't

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Speaker 1: run more? He doesn't run more because he's more comfortable

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Speaker 1: in the pocket. He is doing a great job pre

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Speaker 1: snap reading the defense. He is a different quarterback to

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Speaker 1: day than two months ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what the numbers say.

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Speaker 1: He is a much better quarterback today than two months ago.

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Speaker 1: Here's Matt Hasselback earlier on his growth.

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Speaker 10: He's gotten better each and every week.

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Speaker 5: And I think one of the best things you can.

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Speaker 10: Say about quarterback development is a team you're developing your quarterback,

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Speaker 10: your young quarterback as you're winning games. And that's what

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Speaker 10: they did. They found ways to win. They were the

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Speaker 10: Cardiac Bears. No, this is I think you got to

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Speaker 10: be so excited. And I've said it like when you

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Speaker 10: get the GM right, the head coach right, and the

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Speaker 10: quarterback right, you know, kind of that triad, one heartbeat,

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Speaker 10: one vision, we're all together and we all got each

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Speaker 10: other's back. That's what Chicago has right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I don't care about the data more yards,

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Speaker 1: more sensational, better time of possession, a lot of big plays.

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Speaker 1: You know that when you get into overtime in late

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you got to be spectacular and you also

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Speaker 1: have to be super efficient. So I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think Chicago's future is really bright. They don't need a lot.

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Speaker 1: They can use an edge rusher. I think they need

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Speaker 1: to be a little more athletic at linebacker. Everybody in

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Speaker 1: the world could use another corner. It's a cornerback starved league.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are going to draft the corner or two.

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Speaker 1: Seattle is one of the rare rosters that they don't

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Speaker 1: really have a whole Seattle. Philadelphia is another roster. Not

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Speaker 1: a lot of needs. Although stories on Jalen hurts rubbing

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Speaker 1: people the wrong way. But in a salary cap league,

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Speaker 1: you know, usually you know you got this you need

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Speaker 1: and that you need. Chicago's in a really good space.

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer around the corner, who's getting the Buffalo Bill's job.

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Speaker 1: It's like a year ago where like, you know, this

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Speaker 1: league is unfair if you don't have a Mahomes. If

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Speaker 1: you don't have a stafford, if you don't have a

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen Burrow, you can't compete for a Super Bowl. Now,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Lamar are looking for coaches. Albert Breer

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Speaker 1: is now joining US Live ten opening Stefanski Harball locked

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Speaker 1: in to Atlanta and the Giants, respectively.

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Speaker 2: Brian Babel, let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: How surprised were you many suspected to win over Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: on the road save McDermott's job when the news came

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Speaker 1: down first sixty seconds?

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Speaker 2: What was your thought?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I was surprised, you know, and look like I

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Speaker 11: think Sean McDermott was surprised. There wasn't a ton of

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Speaker 11: internal discussion about this before the playoffs, so it sort

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Speaker 11: of felt like, yeah, if there's like a car wreck

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Speaker 11: ending in the first round of the.

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Speaker 5: Playoffs, then maybe something happens. But I'm with you.

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Speaker 11: I thought, once they got through Jacksonville, you know, you're

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Speaker 11: going on the road to play the Top Sea at

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Speaker 11: Broncos you're a little nicked up. I figured he was

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Speaker 11: probably gonna be okay. I will say this, though, there

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Speaker 11: was a different feel in that building the last couple

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Speaker 11: of months, more tension, I think, more pressure on everybody.

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Speaker 11: They realized that they've got in front of them opportunity

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Speaker 11: that Josh Allen as a quarterback gives them. And I

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Speaker 11: think some of that's spilled out Colin after the game

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Speaker 11: on Saturday, with Josh Allen's emotion and with Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 11: you know, coming out against the referees and then circling

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Speaker 11: back a couple hours.

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Speaker 5: Later and doubling down.

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Speaker 11: It just it felt like there was a tremendous amount

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Speaker 11: of pressure on a lot of people in that building

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Speaker 11: over the last couple of months, and so was there

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Speaker 11: a sense that something could happen?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 11: Was there some sort of like longstanding conversation about it internally,

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Speaker 11: not that I know of.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Brian day Ball seems obvious. He's got relationships in

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Speaker 1: the building. He basically took this raw, gangly kid from

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Speaker 1: Wyoming and turned him into a superstar. Now Josh would

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Speaker 1: have been better eventually, but it happened very quickly. He'd

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Speaker 1: have to be the leader in the clubhouse, right.

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Speaker 11: I think Joe Brady will get a look. You know,

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Speaker 11: Brian dave Ball is an obvious one. He's a Western

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Speaker 11: New York native, of course spent time there built in

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Speaker 11: a relationship with Josh Allen, so that's certainly somewhere to start.

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Speaker 11: I think what is pretty apparent is this going to

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Speaker 11: be a Josh Josh Allen centric higher and so whatever

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Speaker 11: it is that they do here is going to be

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Speaker 11: about finding a way to maximize Josh Allen, to create

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Speaker 11: some longevity for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: I think back to what the Steelers did when.

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Speaker 11: They hired Todd Haley and really tried to coach.

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Speaker 5: Into Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 11: If you want to have, you know, a second phase

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Speaker 11: of your career, we're going to have to teach you

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Speaker 11: to play point guard a little bit more. I could

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Speaker 11: certainly see them bringing in somebody with the idea of

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Speaker 11: doing that. I'd also tell you this, they have leverage

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Speaker 11: like Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Do you know what they have

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Speaker 11: the chance now to say, we have Josh Allen, we

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Speaker 11: have one of the best jobs in the market, if

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Speaker 11: not the best job in the mark.

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Speaker 5: We have a rare opportunity for someone to.

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Speaker 11: Come in here and coach Josh Allen as he goes

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Speaker 11: into his age thirty season and really make his mark

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Speaker 11: with Josh Allen and win a Super Bowl with Josh

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Speaker 11: and so I think that gives them the opportunity a

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Speaker 11: to be patient. They don't need to rush anything here

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Speaker 11: the way some other teams are going to rush to

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Speaker 11: hire guys like I think you'll see a little little

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Speaker 11: bit of that over the next thirty six to forty

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Speaker 11: eight hours and then b I think it gives you

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Speaker 11: a chance to take your shot and look like, I'm

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Speaker 11: not saying any of this is going to happen, but

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Speaker 11: if you are them, don't you just call everybody to

651
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Speaker 11: see if there's some situation that may have gone sideway

652
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Speaker 11: somewhere in the league. Now, the Rams and Niners aren't

653
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Speaker 11: going to trade away Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan, but

654
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Speaker 11: why not just call him, you know, if there's any

655
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Speaker 11: sitting head coach in the league, I think you can

656
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Speaker 11: call those teams. You know, you can snip around the

657
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Speaker 11: college ranks, of course, but this is a job that

658
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 11: is a premium job, and the Bills may have one

659
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Speaker 11: shot to get this right because if they're doing this again.

660
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Speaker 5: In four or five years, Josh Allen might not.

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Speaker 11: Be the same player he is today based on the

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Speaker 11: way he plays and the damage that's already been done

663
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Speaker 11: to his body. And so you know, I think they

664
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Speaker 11: have I have a lot to sell here and we'll

665
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Speaker 11: see what they can do with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you My first take is sometimes, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders got very lucky if they hired Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: today with you know, he's organized. There's no question Sean's

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Speaker 1: a good coaches have eight playoff wins. I thought to myself, Mendoza,

670
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Speaker 1: brock Bauers, Ashton gent, they got to they got to

671
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Speaker 1: fix their offensive line. I mean, if I was the

672
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Speaker 1: Raiders and I want to do organizationally improve, you can

673
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Speaker 1: do a lot worse than Sean McDermott, doesn't I mean

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Speaker 1: that to me feels like a natural fit, doesn't it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think Arizona is another one that would be after him.

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Speaker 11: Does Tennessee? You know, if if Jeff Athley winds up

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Speaker 11: accepting the Miami job this.

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Speaker 5: Afternoon, does does does Tennessee? After?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 11: Interviewing Matt Naggie and Robert Salah today, do they say okay,

682
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Speaker 11: like we at least want to have a conversation with

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Speaker 11: Sean McDermott. Their their general manager, Mike Borganzi came from

684
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Speaker 11: Kansas City, so he's got the relationship with Andy Reid.

685
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Speaker 11: We know how close Andy Reid and Sean McDermott are.

686
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Speaker 11: You know, I'm with you on the Raiders. I think

687
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Speaker 11: that would make sense. Tom Brady was in the division

688
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Speaker 11: with Sean McDermott for three years when he was the

689
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Speaker 11: quarterback of the Patriots, so he's well aware of what

690
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Speaker 11: Sean McDermott pulled off with a franchise that had been

691
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Speaker 11: out of the playoffs for eighteen years.

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Speaker 5: And the other one. That makes a ton of sense

693
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Speaker 5: to me because I think, like.

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Speaker 11: You said, this is a credibility higher for somebody, right

695
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 11: Somebody who might be a mess right now can instantly

696
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Speaker 11: give themselves credibility by hiring Sean McDermott. Arizona makes sense too,

697
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Speaker 11: And you have some pieces in Arizona. You have guys

698
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Speaker 11: like Paris Johnson and Marvin Harrison and Trey McBride and

699
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 11: Walter Nolan, and so maybe you feel like.

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Speaker 5: You've got a chance.

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Speaker 11: You've got some pieces there, but you need somebody to

702
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Speaker 11: give you some credibility as you.

703
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Speaker 5: Work through a potential divorce with Kyler Murray.

704
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Speaker 11: And you're going to be going back into the quarterback

705
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 11: market at some point, and you bring in the guy

706
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Speaker 11: who can give you that credibility and help start art

707
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 11: that quarterback process as.

708
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Speaker 5: He did in Buffalo with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 11: So I think Arizona would be another one that would

710
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Speaker 11: make a lot of sense, okay for Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: So the interesting one here, Pittsburgh doesn't ever look for

712
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Speaker 1: a coach. They're not good at this stuff. So the

713
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: Giants do They nab their guy. Atlanta looks for coaches

714
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Speaker 1: a lot, they nabbed their guy. Buffalo through the years

715
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Speaker 1: has done it, but the Steelers don't. And I'm hearing

716
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Speaker 1: Chris Shula stuff and I'm thinking, okay, So Chris Shula,

717
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Speaker 1: if they beat Seattle, I mean, you're looking, you could

718
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Speaker 1: you could hire the seventh coach of ten Pittsburgh. And

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Speaker 1: also people say Mike McCarthy, but he isn't you know?

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Speaker 1: He and Aaron Rodgers, I mean they can say stuff publicly.

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Speaker 2: Kumbai.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that they got tired of each other.

723
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Speaker 1: What in the world do is Pittsburgh doing? How long

724
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Speaker 1: are they gonna sit around here?

725
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Speaker 11: And wait, I think pittsburghs got again. The leverage to

726
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 11: be patient, okay, And I think it's instructive with both

727
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 11: them and Baltimore to look at their past and look

728
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 11: at where they've been and what they've done. So the

729
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 11: last time those two franchises hired coaches was seven and

730
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Speaker 11: eight the Steelers and seven everyone thought that they were

731
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Speaker 11: hiring either Russ Grimm or ken Wood and hunt off

732
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Speaker 11: Bill Cower staff. The Steelers said, wait a minute, we're

733
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Speaker 11: going to go through a full process and those guys

734
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Speaker 11: are going to be a part of it. We'll see

735
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Speaker 11: where it takes us. And they go and hire a

736
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Speaker 11: guy who had one year of experience as a coordinator

737
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 11: and it was on the defensive side of the ball,

738
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Speaker 11: and Mike Tomlin at thirty four years old, and you

739
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 11: see how that worked out. The Ravens the next year, again,

740
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Speaker 11: there were some hot names out there. They were after

741
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Speaker 11: Jason Garrett, who was the Cowboys offensive coordinator. They were

742
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Speaker 11: after Josh McDaniels who was the Patriots offensive coordinator. Both

743
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Speaker 11: those guys pull their names out and they go and

744
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 11: hire a special teams coach from Philadelphia and John harbaught

745
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 11: and obviously that really worked out. And so I think

746
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Speaker 11: you look at the history that those two franchises have.

747
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 11: The last time they were in this position, which was

748
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 11: a long long time ago, they went through a very

749
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Speaker 11: full process. They found their own guy, and they were

750
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Speaker 11: able to do it their own way, and they really

751
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 11: benefited from going through that entire process.

752
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Speaker 5: So both those teams have.

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Speaker 11: Either talked to or our schedule to talk to a

754
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Speaker 11: lot of people. And I don't think that that's any

755
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 11: sort of song and dance. I think it's it's a

756
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 11: real intention to go through a real process. So I

757
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 11: can tell you right now the Steelers are really like

758
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 11: Chris Shula, right. I can tell you right now that

759
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 11: the Ravens like Brian Flores. But it doesn't mean those

760
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 11: guys are getting higher because they're going.

761
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Speaker 5: To go through the full process.

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Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, we got all these teams left. Privately,

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Speaker 1: I think New England's better than people think. I think

764
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Speaker 1: Seattle is the best team. I think the Rams are

765
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Speaker 1: the only team left that could go to Seattle and

766
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Speaker 1: beat them. I think Denver's good. I think sit them

767
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: up put up a good fight. But he's not taking

768
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: first team snaps. You don't get the run around bow

769
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: Nick's component to the offense.

770
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Speaker 2: It feels like a New England.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I think the fact that the Rams go to

772
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Speaker 1: Chicago on that weather, no penalties, no drop passes, and

773
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Speaker 1: no turnovers. We're going to look back at the a

774
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Speaker 1: fand up in the Super Bowl. That's as clean a

775
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Speaker 1: game as I've ever seen played in that kind of

776
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Speaker 1: weather with a warm weather team. Do you have a

777
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: favorite Seattle Rams? It's right your opening thought.

778
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think Seattle's more complete. Yes, yes, the

779
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 5: Rams have.

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Speaker 11: The Rams have the trunk card, which is Matthew Stafford,

781
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 11: and I think, like watching that game last night, I

782
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 11: think it really illustrates how this.

783
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Speaker 5: Team has changed over the last three or four years.

784
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Speaker 11: And you can go back right there was a point

785
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 11: when Kyle Shanahan really had Sean mcvay's number, and Sean

786
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 11: analyzed it and looked at it and said.

787
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Speaker 5: What aren't we doing right here?

788
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Speaker 11: And he looked at what the Niners were doing, and

789
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 11: they had more physical training camps, they hit more, yes,

790
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 11: they had more injuries, but they.

791
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Speaker 5: Wound up being more rugged when it counted most.

792
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: Yah.

793
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: So he goes and hires.

794
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Speaker 11: Michael Floor, who had been in San Francisco's offensive his

795
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 11: offensive coordinator.

796
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 5: He hires a couple of.

797
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Speaker 11: New England assistants in Ryan Wendell and Nick Cayley, and

798
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 11: it was all on an effort to get tough and

799
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 11: more rugged. They now have those backs and Kyron Williams

800
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 11: and Blake Krum along that defensive line. Look at who

801
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 11: they got, big tough guys right like Brayden Fisk and

802
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 11: Jared Verse and Byron Young and Kobe Turner.

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Speaker 5: This is a very rugged Rams.

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Speaker 11: Team and a really different Rams team than you had

805
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 11: three or four years ago. Not to say it's a

806
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 11: better team, but it was on display yesterday right like

807
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 11: it was on display yesterday. In those conditions, you need

808
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 11: to be that kind of team to win. And so

809
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 11: I think I see a toughness with the Rams team

810
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 11: that is going to keep the game close against Seattle yep.

811
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Speaker 11: And it's just tough to bet against Matthew Stafford. If

812
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 11: this thing goes down and it's twenty one to twenty

813
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 11: one with five minutes left and the Rams have the ball,

814
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 11: it's really tough to get to bet against Matthew Stafford

815
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 11: in that circumstance. So again, I think Seattle has the

816
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 11: most complete team in football right now, the most complete

817
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 11: team certainly that's left in the playoffs. But the Rams

818
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 11: have that trump card and we'll see what it looks like.

819
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 11: Obviously they played an epic game just a month ago

820
00:40:59,320 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 11: on that Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, Albert Breer, great stuff, Monday morning quarterback.

822
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Speaker 2: Thank you on late notice, Bud all.

823
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Speaker 5: Right, thanks can Yeah, it's that is listen.

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Speaker 1: I think we all felt this in Week seven or

825
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: eight or nine, like the Rams and the Seahawks. When

826
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: you watch those games, I mean, you know, San Francisco

827
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan can move the ball against everybody, except we

828
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: discovered Seattle.

829
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Speaker 2: Can't move it at all. With Kittle or without can't

830
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: move it.

831
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Speaker 1: Rams have moved the ball, and I know I keep

832
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: saying this. The Rams did not have a penalty or

833
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: a drop pass or a turnover, and they ran that.

834
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Speaker 1: Kyra and Williams I think had like twenty twenty one

835
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: carries and they were just pulling at him. And Pook

836
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: had five or six catches and they're pull it at him.

837
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Speaker 1: Ball never hits the ground for a warm weather dome

838
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: team or whatever we categorize so far semi dome to

839
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: go on the road and play, and cold old weather

840
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: I stepped outside for ninety seconds. I don't know that

841
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: that was impressive.

842
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: Rams may have only had three drives.

843
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: Those came at the right time, their first drive, one

844
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: of their last drives, and then in overtime.

845
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Speaker 2: That was impressive. Impressive stuff. What a day.

846
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Speaker 1: Ten coaching open, I mean, listen good coaches. Sean McDermott's available,

847
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: Kevin Stebanski was available, John Harnball was available.