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Speaker 1: Thomas Logan talks to us about being from Virginia and

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Speaker 1: All that in war starts right. What's good command is family?

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Speaker 1: Brian Cooper Jr. Here and this is the Next Man

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Speaker 1: Up podcast where we talk to your favorite Commanders players

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Speaker 1: no other than our leader are tight End Logan, Thomas Logan.

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Speaker 1: You're doing brother, doing well, doing well.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm happy you're here. Man. We're approaching a

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Speaker 1: bide week, man, and you stop with us right before

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Speaker 1: you enjoy your little bait Ksered, do you have any

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Speaker 1: you just trying to get back right?

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Speaker 2: Definitely get back right. But me and the wife are

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Speaker 2: going to step out, go somewhere, you know, be able

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully this is a good start to that. Man,

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Speaker 1: what we'd like to do on the next man Up

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Speaker 1: So I want to start in Lynchburg, Virginia. That's where

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Speaker 2: I think Lynchburg's a special place, especially to me. So

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Speaker 1: They clearly got a good leader in a good role model.

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Speaker 1: And you've been a great leader for this team. Very

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Speaker 1: Sam a little bit in what you've seen through his

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Speaker 2: I think first things first is his toughness. I think

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Speaker 2: don't see it, don't care about it or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: because it's football. Everybody's tough, right. But the shots that

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Speaker 2: He can make every throw he can. He can make

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Speaker 2: easy things, he can make look even easier than they are.

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Speaker 2: He make hard things look easy. He's got great ball placement,

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Speaker 2: he's got velocity, he's got every tool you could possibly want.

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Speaker 2: And earlier in the season he'll tell you that you

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Speaker 2: finding the right lanes to get out and escape. Now

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Speaker 2: but he's he's going to explode and he has been

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Speaker 1: And what helps is having somebody like you, man, and

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Speaker 1: you've been through all this, right, you set these goals

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Speaker 1: and you accomplish these goals. Now you're a veteran. You

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Speaker 1: you're a leader. What is your goals now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For me, and it's all about winning and encouraging

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Speaker 2: my teammates to be the best version of themselves. It's

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Speaker 2: no different than how I treat my kids and you know,

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Speaker 2: building them up at the same time. Like I've gone

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Speaker 2: through all of it. I've made all the mistakes, I've

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Speaker 2: done all the dumb things that you don't want to

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks haven't been great for us. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: them like, look, man, this isn't the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to play for. We got personal

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Speaker 2: goals to do, We got things that we want to

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Speaker 2: do next year, and it's still building blocks. At the

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Speaker 1: Man, when we'll put you back on your soap buss,

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Speaker 1: why I'll let you go because it is a bid

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Speaker 1: weekn I gotta let my guy get off to those

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Speaker 1: flave kids. That's your isow camera right them and look

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Speaker 1: at that camera. Talk to the Commanders fans and explain

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Speaker 1: to them what you guys need from them at this

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Speaker 2: Commanders fans, we just need you all to show up,

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Speaker 2: be loud, and show support. We feel you guys. When

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Speaker 2: you're in the stands, it makes a huge difference, you know.

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Speaker 2: When we see all that burgundy and gold running around

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Speaker 2: out there, it definitely makes it difference. So please show up,

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Speaker 2: don't lose faith. Yeah, we've had a rough season, but

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Speaker 1: Logan, Man, we appreciate your time so much. Man, A

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Speaker 1: true leader, man, a great father, and I have no

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Speaker 1: doubt your boys, Man have a great person to look

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Speaker 1: up to. Man, So we really appreciate your time. Amanda's

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Speaker 1: famous is the Next Man of Podcasts and our next

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Speaker 1: man that was no other than Logan Thomas Brother. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: your bye weeknd and can't wait to see what you

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Speaker 1: do the rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: Certain appreciate you. I got you.

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