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Speaker 1: But look, sometimes you gotta pop out and show the league.

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Speaker 1: rest of the trade deadline to recap NBA All Star

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Speaker 2: Of your Toronto Raptors. Okay, my good youth.

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Speaker 1: To them with NBA analysts Espandi Arbert Haini on today's episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jabari Davis Infrajet.

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Speaker 1: And this is my wo sometimes yeah, I got Madory

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Speaker 2: Look kitch, Okay, there you go driving spinning fat number eighteen.

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Speaker 3: That's goods the Suffolk or NBA champions.

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Speaker 1: Bara Haney straight from the Great White North. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us NBA Daily at the athletic video host

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Speaker 1: for Raptors. Republic and bach its in areno work for

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Speaker 2: Toronto to talk about it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So it's great to have you it's good to see

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Speaker 4: Good to see you too. Bro. I kind of like

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Speaker 1: You A good I'm telling you you're not one of

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Speaker 4: Both both London roadman Talk and Toronto Man Talks are

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's West Indies. Yeah that's all we know. We

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Speaker 2: do you think Mondem came from? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, this is an a linguistics podcast. It is, however,

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Speaker 1: an NBA podcast. So first of all, we got All

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Speaker 1: this Friday, for those of you who rightly should be

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Speaker 6: I've thrown this crazy idea out there before. Usually people

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Speaker 4: And you know what, people love to dunk and go

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Speaker 4: at Rudy Gobert, so they would sign out on the list. Yes,

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Speaker 4: no problem, I'm down. So yeah, I'd love that. And like,

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Speaker 2: Let's see you.

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Speaker 4: Let We're not losing to TOUMANI Kamara man exactly.

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Speaker 6: My guy Desmond Palell shout out to him. He actually

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Speaker 4: That would be I mean that team they beat will

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Speaker 4: You walked Dustin Reeves dropped forty five.

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Speaker 1: So I would love's great. And I might put all

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Speaker 2: Everybody is starting to play at their potential. We have

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Speaker 1: I remember first I was like Jabari Dorian Phinney Smith

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Speaker 2: Can we go?

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Speaker 1: You know, where do we think this tops out at?

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Speaker 6: To the conference finals.

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Speaker 2: That I think that's the absolute best. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to probably be a second round

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Speaker 4: This is something I'd love to ask you guys. You

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like part of me is like, yes, maybe, but

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Speaker 1: Much as I want him to do what he needs

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Speaker 1: and how does that play? But I totally understand the

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Speaker 4: He has another chance right to win that fifth one.

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Speaker 1: For sure for sure, Well, I guess we should just

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Speaker 2: Of trades that took place the deadline.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look just to we keep talking about the Lakers,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently the Hornets are launching an investigation to like

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Speaker 4: re rescinded, re un whatever, Yeah, reinated, that's the word.

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Speaker 6: No for sure, for sure, That's exactly how it felt

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Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, yeah, Well let's go to your backyard

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Speaker 1: Okay, brand yes, yes, lord, please please, I guess overall,

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Speaker 1: Truly, I came out of a literal cave of darkness. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so please apologize for me being like fully being in

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Speaker 1: Now what what how are you feeling? And does this

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Speaker 4: So first of all, I'll just say, do you guys

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Speaker 6: It's not good Canadians.

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Speaker 2: They're clever, clever has Canadian.

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Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't have the Toronto essence to it

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Speaker 4: that to be the case in Toronto as well. With

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00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 4: Scotty Barnes. We'll see, but ultimately I like the fit.

438
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 4: I like it a lot because the Raptors really need

439
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 4: a shot creator, a guy who can just go out

440
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 4: and get a bucket. And maybe this means they end

441
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 4: up trying to move guys later on, whether it be r. J.

442
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 4: Barrett or Manuel quickly, and we'll see how that goes.

443
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 4: But if they are locked into this core over the

444
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 4: next couple of years, I think it makes a lot

445
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 4: of sense to like ease the pressure off of Scotty,

446
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 4: to give him that space to figure out stuff himself,

447
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 4: while Bi can go out and kind of help the

448
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 4: team get to that next stage of their developmental cycle

449
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, right right right.

450
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think this could be like yeah,

451
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just looking.

452
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 1: Also, how's the I mean, Ryan Hollins was in the

453
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: news talking about Grady Dick recently, But how has year

454
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 1: two Grady Dick been?

455
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 4: Hey, He's he's been good. He started out this season

456
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 4: really well, like he was. He showed off like a

457
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 4: crazy creation off the bounce, he was making highlight plays.

458
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 4: He's finally knocking down his threes more consistently, kind of

459
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 4: slowed down. I think he hit that like set sophomore wall.

460
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't even know if you call

461
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 4: it a sophomore wall, to be honest with you, But

462
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 4: like he he hit a wall because he had played

463
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: more minutes than he had played in his rookie season,

464
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 4: I believe, like forty games into this year. So it

465
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 4: was an adjustment, and he had bulked up throughout the

466
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 4: summer and so like all that weight was gone just

467
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: because he had played so much, right, and so I

468
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 4: think he's dealing with some of the physical limitations again,

469
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 4: but he's still a really good player, and I think

470
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 4: he's going to end up being like a very very

471
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 4: important part of this piece for the Raptors. Most strong, strong.

472
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 6: Neck on that guy, strong suppress.

473
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny the Pelicans broadcast refuses to call

474
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 4: him Grady Dick. They call him Grady.

475
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 6: Richard's that's his proper name. Yeah's proper name. So so,

476
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 6: you know, kind of wrapping it up with your Raptors

477
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 6: before before we get this break beyond you know obviously

478
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 6: you know, continued grouped individually and as a young unit.

479
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 6: What do these Raptors need most in this.

480
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 4: Offseason to pray to the lottery gods to just and

481
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: I say that because I think like it could really

482
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 4: change the trajectory of this team. Like if they end

483
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 4: up with the number one overall pick, you're now looking

484
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 4: at this team is really interesting because they get Cooper Flag,

485
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: they got Scottie, they got these guys who can kind

486
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 4: of help facilitate around them. That becomes interesting overall, even

487
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 4: if they get the second or third overall pick and

488
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 4: you're looking at like Dylan Harper or Ace Bailey or

489
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 4: someone else that you might be interested in, like that

490
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 4: changes the tone of what people believe this team could

491
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Speaker 4: be moving forward. So praying for lottery odds, to be

492
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 4: honest with you, I think that's that's the goal for

493
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 4: this Raptors team is whatever happens in the lottery will

494
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: probably dictate what they do for the rest of the

495
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 4: like two three years of this group.

496
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Speaker 1: So it sounds like the Raptors are in the gas

497
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: station parking lot and they are praying to the lot.

498
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 2: If you're about that, okay, let's take a quick break

499
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: and we'll.

500
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Speaker 6: Beat right back.

501
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: And we're back. And so one side of.

502
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Speaker 1: The trade of this Luca deal is obviously Luca comes

503
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Speaker 1: to the lake, there's the other side, which really hurts

504
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: my heart, I must say. And I'm sure you know, Jabbari,

505
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: I know you feel the exact same way as our Anthony.

506
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 2: Davis local goes to Dallas and.

507
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: That first game I caught, it seemed it gosh, it

508
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: was so tragic to watch the the like highs that

509
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: like you were like he was writing Dallas, was writing

510
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: and he's like it felt like he's like, come here,

511
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: you know this, you know, nothing changed about me, just

512
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: a jersey and I was like, here.

513
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: Goes my baby is so cool. That's my yeah.

514
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: And then he injured his abductor muscle yet again and

515
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: went down and as he wrote in the doc, Jabari,

516
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: they got the full Anthony Davis experience in Dallas. That

517
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: was really really really really difficult to watch. But I mean, look,

518
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: we're watching being like, oh our baby from over here.

519
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: But for MAVs fans, I am very I feel very,

520
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: very bad. I don't even know why I'm apologizing. I

521
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: feel like already just because I can't believe the nature

522
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: of the trade.

523
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 2: I will continue to apologie.

524
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I don't know how, but thank you

525
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: for us.

526
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 4: You know that you know that meme of Drake when

527
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 4: he has that gift and he's like, oh man, you know,

528
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: he's like, I don't know what it exactly was. He

529
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 4: was reacting to Kevin Durant getting hurt right in the finals,

530
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 4: and and he's like he's face mad, you know what

531
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Speaker 4: I mean. It's O no, man, probably how Lakers fans

532
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: feel right now, that fake.

533
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: Man I feel, I know.

534
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 4: But it's Look, it sucks because like this is probably

535
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: the worst week to ever be a MAVs fan. You

536
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 4: you have, you have the trade that goes down. That's

537
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: probably one of the biggest trades in sports history. Yeah,

538
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 4: definitely the biggest trade in NBA history. Most shock talking,

539
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 4: for sure. And you're on the bad end of that.

540
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 4: Like everybody in the world, in the barbershops, in the whatever,

541
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 4: everybody agrees that y'all lost this trade.

542
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 6: Okay.

543
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 4: On top of that, your GM comes up and says, hey, man, like,

544
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be here a couple of years. I'm

545
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: not gonna be here in a couple of years. So

546
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: that's all right, it's all good. And then there's protests,

547
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 4: there's caskets at the arena, there's booing, there's fans getting

548
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: kicked out. Mark Cuban is telling people to shut up.

549
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: It's just it's a lot, okay. And then on top

550
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: of that, Ad gets hurt, Daniel Gafford gets hurt. Eric

551
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 4: Lively's hurt that you can't even see this team. Kyrie

552
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 4: has a bulging disc. You know, there's just so much

553
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: going on and there's not a lot of hope. There's

554
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: not a lot of light at the end of the tunnel.

555
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 4: And you feel for them because this a lot of

556
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: it wasn't self inflicted, like they didn't the MAVs didn't

557
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 4: cause this other than the front office doing this. MAVs

558
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: fans didn't do this themselves. It wasn't Luca getting hurt.

559
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 4: It wasn't you know, Luca requesting a trade or whatnot.

560
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: It was the MAVs engaging in this to just get

561
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: themselves in this situation. It's such a bizarre, bizarre way

562
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: to take an l.

563
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Daniel Gafford go down injured too, Yes, he

564
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: got hurt. That's what I'm just I'm like, yo, I

565
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: my heart goes out to you. It really does it

566
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: on a fan level, like, yeah, you know what it's

567
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: like to kind of be.

568
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: Like it makes you become a conspiracy theorist because it

569
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 4: doesn't make sense right, you know what I mean?

570
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's the conspiracy theories that when we are in

571
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: a state of powerlessness and confused over it like.

572
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: We have, you got to get cocked. It can't just

573
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: be this.

574
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: And I do feel bad because I've treated every MAVs

575
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: fan like they were Nico Harrison when I when I

576
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: talked to him.

577
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, what were y'all doing? What I'm thinking?

578
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: And explain the way you see even like, please don't

579
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: ask me I have I don't know.

580
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

581
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: I had to lay my jersey at Dirk Nowitzky's statue.

582
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, but hey, it looks bit things

583
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: do look right.

584
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: In Hollywood Land.

585
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 6: I will say that.

586
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: And then also, what's going on? I like, we're calling Sacramento,

587
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: Chicago West Now.

588
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 6: I don't know what they're doing, but I'm happy to

589
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 6: see it.

590
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 4: I guess they got a friendship working on. I don't know.

591
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, hey, I mean there was so much

592
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: evidence that this is clearly the way to go. This

593
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: is a this is an interesting time for front office decisions.

594
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: But Zach Lavine and DeMar de Rosen together again, together again,

595
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: and then also this is another huge one that I

596
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: just remember seeing Poppy my phone said Jimmy Butler to

597
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: the Golden State war Wow.

598
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: Wow wow wow because what because they first came to

599
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: KD and he was like.

600
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm good, I'm the merry ground was activated. But

601
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: I mean, what's what are the expectations around this? I'm like,

602
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: this is I know, Steph has been up and down,

603
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: up and down? Is this is this stabilizing? Do we

604
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: feel good about this? Or do we have conspiracy? How

605
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: explained to me? How should I feel about this as

606
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: somebody who just saw it on a phone update and went,

607
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I like the car. I like the combination

608
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: of those names.

609
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, the combination is good. You know, they've been

610
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: good over the first couple of games that Jimmy has

611
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 4: played there. It's kind of wait and see because they've

612
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: played easy competition, and so you want to see it

613
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: develop over the next month or so. How how legitimate

614
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: they are To start the year, they were really good,

615
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: like the Warriors were first in the Western Conference. They

616
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: had a great defense, and then it kind of all

617
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: just fell apart once the Anthony Melton got hurt, they

618
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: traded for Schroeder, and then Kaminga and Draymond got hurt too,

619
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: and so they just kind of it all spiral. But

620
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: adding Jimmy makes a lot of sense to what Steph needs,

621
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: just a release valve, another guy who can go out

622
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: and get a bucket and take the pressure off. Even

623
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: steps at it, he was like, man, I just needed

624
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: someone else to do something else, except you know what

625
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: I mean, Like he just needed that help when he

626
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: was off the floor to keep the game at a distance,

627
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: to try to be competitive when Steph was off the floor.

628
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 4: I think they're like minus seven when he's off the floor.

629
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: So adding Jimmy clearly helps in that category. They're able

630
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: to be more competitive, and who knows, who knows if

631
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: they'll make a run.

632
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 6: I'm not sure that's exactly where I was going to

633
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 6: follow up, like what is a you know, like, if

634
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 6: for recent expectations, what's a realistic good run for them

635
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 6: this year?

636
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 4: I would say getting into the playoffs is a good

637
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: scenario for them right now. They're like right out of

638
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: the play in If they end up getting into the

639
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: playoffs and then facing up against Memphis or Houston and

640
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 4: you're looking at a team that doesn't have as much

641
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: experience as they do, so they might have the advantage

642
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: in that category, and maybe they steal the first round,

643
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, playoff series, and then you're looking at the

644
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 4: second round and they're competitive and they kind of fight

645
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: things off and they're like, Okay, we got a we

646
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: got an idea of what we can be next season.

647
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: That kind of makes sense for me for Golden State.

648
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: But that's also like the ceiling. I would imagine what

649
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: this team could be. I don't think they can make

650
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: a deep playoff or finals round.

651
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: You know, I can't wait to see that game where

652
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: someone pokes both of these bears because the combination made

653
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: my eyes bleed. I feel like, is what that would

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Speaker 1: look like with an activated Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: Butler and stuff and Ramon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Also, Dennis, my guy, this is what

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Speaker 2: his eleventh team now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Shack Rainbow.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's official, done it, He's done it. I was like,

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Speaker 1: who's played for the most teams? It's team their team?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because Party was like, is he getting I'm like, well,

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Speaker 4: this is me, Luke Gridden, how or record?

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Speaker 6: I think I think so? I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was, he was number one, and then

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Speaker 4: a Smith took his spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, took his spot.

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Speaker 1: And then also another former Laker, Kyle Kuzma, to the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I mean, look, he's

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Speaker 2: how's he looked, Jabari?

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's getting going that. The the unfortunate thing

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Speaker 6: is that, you know, Giannis is missed the last four games,

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Speaker 6: so it's kind of difficult to really gauge. But you know,

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Speaker 6: you know, he basically scored twelve thirteen to twenty one

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Speaker 6: respectively over the over his first three games with the team.

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Speaker 6: I think, look, people will clown them. I get it.

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Speaker 6: The pink, fuzzy sweater, the hair, all of that, you know,

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Speaker 6: all the social media commentaries.

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Speaker 2: I think I have nothing to do with his ability

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Speaker 2: to play basketball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is right there. We have the two of

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Speaker 6: us personally. Nobody else saw this, but two of us

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Speaker 6: personally witnessed him as a strong contributor to a title team.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying I'm not saying he makes him a

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Speaker 6: title team, but I'm saying we there is evidence, just

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Speaker 6: recent evidence. Yeah, he can do it. So I like

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Speaker 6: the move, you know, in terms of what he could be.

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Speaker 6: But I mean none of it matters if Jiannis is

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Speaker 6: not gonna be there.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: What do you think the Bucks can expect to go

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Speaker 1: twenty nine games left?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean they're kind of on the outside looking in.

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Speaker 4: I still think it's Cleveland and Boston in the East.

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Speaker 4: And then if Giannis just has like an incredible playoff run,

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Speaker 4: they can try to make some noise. But they're just

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Speaker 4: really flawed and they're old, you know, like Brooklyn. That's

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Speaker 4: why the Kuzma trade kind of makes sense because it

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Speaker 4: made them younger. Middleton was a little bit older. It

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Speaker 4: kind of makes them a little bit younger than what

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Speaker 4: they are right now. But it's it's a lot of

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Speaker 4: relying on old guys to do things, and outside of

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Speaker 4: their like five or six, they don't have that many pieces.

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Speaker 4: So it's a question of how that looks in a

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Speaker 4: playoff series against a team that's probably more versatile, like

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Speaker 4: if they play the Knicks, or they play the Celtics,

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Speaker 4: or they play the Caves, it probably is not going

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Speaker 4: to be a good series for them. Again, unless Giannis

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Speaker 4: plays and plays at an MVP level, because when he does,

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Speaker 4: he's the second or third best player in the world.

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Speaker 6: Could they get the Pacers?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they could get it. Yeah, because Giannis

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Speaker 4: always cooks the Pacers. Like if you go and look

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Speaker 4: at his numbers against Indiana, I think he dropped fifty

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Speaker 4: last year on them one time.

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Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, wow, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he just he has his way against Indiana.

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Speaker 2: If DoD someone make a joke to you what happened?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think it was.

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Speaker 4: The Was it the basketball game, the one where they

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Speaker 4: took his ball? Was that the that was that? The Pacers? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was the Pacers. It was the Pacers where they

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Speaker 4: where they took the basketball because because some rookie scored

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Speaker 4: first once, yes exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man was yes, and he's like and I took

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Speaker 1: that personally, look, and that's usually the fuel of dreams.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we will wait and see.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take another break, and then when we

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Speaker 1: come back, it's time to grill a miski and you,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the form of Vesper Haney in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, rapid fire round of questions, bomb right back.

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Speaker 2: And we're back two tools down, you know, uh, we're back.

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Speaker 1: As my goodness, man, Look, we love having you on

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Speaker 1: We love keeping it friendly, we love keeping it you know,

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Speaker 1: light and stuff.

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Speaker 6: But it is the fourth quarter rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: Round questioning, and I have been out of action for

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Speaker 2: about a.

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Speaker 1: Month, so guess what it's adult to get a hostile

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Speaker 1: you know, it's the fourth quarter fire right question? We

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you a question you just fired to answer

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Speaker 1: right back, like a chest pass in a three man

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Speaker 1: weave exercise.

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Speaker 4: You get me, okay, don't put the ball down, keep it.

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Speaker 2: Moving, keep it moving okay? If not, we run in

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Speaker 2: lines after now.

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Speaker 1: You answer, We're going to hit you with a few questions.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know how this goes. If you

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Speaker 1: take you long, we will be so rude to you.

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Speaker 2: We will be Americans to you.

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Speaker 6: Don't get me to you.

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Speaker 2: You get me, You get me.

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Speaker 4: I got like gerbird Ryan, throw a tariff on me.

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Brian half started the clock here?

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Speaker 2: Wait are you ready?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Start right now? Time to play this or that? Time

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Speaker 2: to play this or that?

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Speaker 1: Which player or duo would you choose for the next

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Speaker 1: three years?

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Speaker 2: It's this or that. In the this column we have

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Speaker 2: Luca with.

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Speaker 1: Prime Lebron's athleticism, and in the that column or Joker

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Speaker 1: with prime Hakeem's defensive presence.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's a good one. But I'm definitely going to

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Speaker 4: Luca Lebron for sure.

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Speaker 2: That is the right answer. That is the right answer,

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Speaker 2: That is the right answer. That's that's what I don't

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Speaker 2: want to see. I don't want to see it.

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Speaker 6: I don'tant to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one would be crazy, but yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, first as a Lakers fan, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see that effort. As a prime joker with prime No, no, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, keep it going. Prime Vince would step jumper or

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Speaker 6: prime Kobe in Giannis's.

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Speaker 4: Body, Prime Kobe in Giannis's body.

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Speaker 2: That would be crazy.

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Speaker 6: That's it's good nuts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Can you imagine if if Jana or if Kobe

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Speaker 4: could do the step through euro and like what and

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Speaker 4: then also hit you with the fatal what are we

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Speaker 4: talking about? That'd be crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is these are like creative players. Now I

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Speaker 1: got to get two k maybe you know, put these

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Speaker 1: sort of things together.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last one, Luca Lebron Combo or.

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Speaker 1: Stephan Jimmy for the next three years, the next three years, three.

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Speaker 4: Next three years, give me give me Lebron, Luca, give

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Speaker 4: me Lebron.

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Speaker 6: That's the right answer.

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Speaker 2: That is the right answers.

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Speaker 4: You guys are Lakers guys. I'm gonna sit here in defense.

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Speaker 2: That's actually wrong. That's actually wrong.

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Speaker 1: Actually no step and Jimmy a whole sense of security,

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Speaker 1: and you messed it up all right.

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Speaker 6: You could make any finals matchup utilizing finals teams from

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Speaker 6: throughout history. What is the matchup that you would like

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Speaker 6: to see more than any other?

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Speaker 3: Cool?

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Speaker 4: You know what. I only say this because I've again

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Speaker 4: covered the Toronto Raptors, so I would like to see it.

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Speaker 4: I would like to see the twenty twenty Toronto Raptors

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Speaker 4: versus the twenty twenty Los Angeles Lakers. Whoa, oh, let

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Speaker 4: I thought that was going to be the Bubble Finals.

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Speaker 4: I really thought that was going to end up being

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Speaker 4: the NBA Finals. Obviously ended up being heat Lakers. Celtics

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Speaker 4: beat the Raptors in the Semis of the East.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: If the Bubble.

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Speaker 4: Didn't happen, my bet is that the Raptors would have

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Speaker 4: made it back to the NBA Finals and it would

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Speaker 4: have been Raptors Lakers, and I would have enjoyed watching

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Speaker 4: that series because it would have been Lebron facing up

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Speaker 4: against the Lakers or sorry, facing up against the Raptors,

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Speaker 4: the whole Lebronto of it all, and yeah, that would

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Speaker 4: have been very cool to see.

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Speaker 6: I never would have thought about that matchup, but I

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Speaker 6: absolutely love it and we would have dog walked y'all

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Speaker 6: like Hendreck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew that's what I would have never thought

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Speaker 1: about it because we won that and we didn't even

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Speaker 1: see y'all at the final.

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Speaker 2: But interesting, the.

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Speaker 4: Raptors beat y'all three out of four times in that season.

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Speaker 4: You're saying you're right, You're right, Pascal over, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, didn't the Sorry did the light get messed up

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Speaker 1: in my studio because the banners.

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Speaker 2: Kind of just came down in the wave.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, what happened was the lights just got

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Speaker 6: really bright and Toronto just went to sleep. Oh okay, time.

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